March 16, 2025 • 8 mins
Katie's girls have a plan to save money that is well thought out and achievable. However, is she a bad Mum for dropping the bombshell that they need to repay their debts first?!
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Speaker 1 (00:05):
Apogae production, Welcome back to another episode, And.
Speaker 2 (00:24):
Am I a mad mom podcast? It is the question
we constantly ask. The content never runs out, No, it doesn't.
I'm actually in a situation at the moment where I
had to have a chat with my girls about the
fact that I don't hear anything from them, like, oh God.
Speaker 3 (00:43):
How is your day? Yeah?
Speaker 2 (00:44):
Yeah, good, Like there's nothing to tell me until ten pm,
and then at ten pm they want to tell me
everything about the whole day, about who's done. What I
said to HollyHood day, I was like, Okay, how is
your day? Talk to me, tell me what's going on,
how are you feeling? And she went fine, why And
I won't because I don't want you to keep coming
(01:05):
in at ten pm and then telling me everything when
I just want to finish off show i'm watching and
go to bed. I don't want that to be the
time to talk. And it made me feel bad because
I was like, I'm not telling you, I don't want
to talk to you. Yeah, I just don't want to
hear it all late at night.
Speaker 3 (01:20):
I've said this before too. Is that bandwidth? Like every
one of us human being has definitely got different bandwidths.
Like I think my bandwidth it sort of runs out
about eight pm. And it's just interesting how they feel
comfortable after being home probably from what four pm? Yeah,
and they've just built the confidence to talk to you
at ten pm. That is so much time in between.
Speaker 2 (01:45):
Yeah, And I think it's also because they have their devices,
phones or whatever, and then they have to give it back,
give it back, and so then it's like we've got
something else as I'll talk to you. Am I a
(02:09):
bad mum for making them pay?
Speaker 3 (02:12):
The question is for what? Because right now you're got
some big things coming up for what they're paying for.
Speaker 2 (02:19):
Yeah, so like not moving out.
Speaker 3 (02:20):
I'm not saying you're saying, oh move out now, Like
that's not what you're saying that but.
Speaker 2 (02:25):
Forty years Yeah, So my girls are at the stage.
We've talked about how they love going to concerts. Billie
Eilish was a big thing. They saved up money. They
bought three tickets to the same show. But then they
also wanted to get merch that's like exclusively only sold
at the concert, or there's like limited edition or things
(02:48):
like that. Anyway, we ended up lending the girls some
money and I said, don't worry about paying us back
until after the concerts and everything's been done, and then
I want a plan to how you're going to pay
us back. It's about two hundred dollars each.
Speaker 3 (03:04):
Yep.
Speaker 2 (03:05):
So now they're saving, yeah, because they want to get
a car.
Speaker 3 (03:10):
Yeah that was yeah, that was what I thought you
were talking about.
Speaker 2 (03:13):
Yeah, they're also saving to go to Billie Eilish in
London in July. I was like, that's not happening. No,
you're not saving that much money to go fly to London, yeah,
in July. And then it's that whole battle rage of going.
They've put together a plan of how they're going to
(03:36):
make money, how much money they need per I think
it's twenty five dollars per day they need to make
or something done, a list of how they're going to
make the money. Obviously they've got jobs at macas. They've
also put like babysitting and like a whole bunch of
things on this list. Like they've pulled together a very
well thought out plan. Now, as a parent, I've got
(03:57):
this battle of going, do I shoot their dreams down
and just go that's not happening, You're never gonna make it,
Or do I allow them to.
Speaker 3 (04:08):
Well whenever they're in anticipating that they're going to Number
one is the reality. I love that. I love the
whole thing that they've gone to the extreme of the
reality of it is that if you were wanting to
be able to how are you're going to afford to
pay for the airfare which you'd probably want to be
booking somewhat soon for July. How are you going to
(04:30):
be paying for that? Straight up?
Speaker 2 (04:31):
Yeah, Well, they've got this plan. They've got the plan,
and the plan makes sense. I still think if you
said to me, do you want to go to Europe
in July, I'd be like, no, I'm not going to
be able to have enough money to go to Europe.
It's that fine line of going do I encourage them.
Speaker 3 (04:50):
To reach for the stoach for the stars or.
Speaker 2 (04:53):
Do I shut it down and go no, that's never
going to happen.
Speaker 3 (04:56):
I think the worst case scenario would be let them
reach for the stars when they get to July. Let's
just say July twenty, when Billy is playing in and
they're not there, they'll have a heap of money saved
up to go straight into the car account.
Speaker 2 (05:11):
Yeah, and the other thing rach is. And this is
the whole Am I a bad mum for making them pay?
Is that I'm standing my ground with the money that
they owe us. Absolutely, And the reason I'm doing it
is because I'm like, it's so important to take responsibility
over your debt. You need a way to pay that
(05:34):
back first. So when they say to me, Mum, can
I do some jobs? And Jay will go, yeah, you
need clean up the yard or whatever, and it's worth
this much money, I'm like, but don't forget that needs
to come back to us because that's what you owe.
And then afterwards then you're you're saying all right, But
then it makes me.
Speaker 3 (05:52):
Now because you're not teaching them any life lessons. Yeah,
because when someone later on in life is like, no,
you still owe me two hundred dollars for rent and
they go, can I just do some jobs around the
house for You're like, no, unfortunately, no, I just need
the cash.
Speaker 2 (06:05):
And understand could go don't worry about it, don't worry
about paying us back. You just save your money. But
then I'm like, no, that's teaching them nothing.
Speaker 3 (06:13):
No, well who was doing that for you at their age?
Speaker 1 (06:16):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (06:16):
And also you know, you run up a bill on
your credit card.
Speaker 3 (06:20):
You're not say it's okay.
Speaker 2 (06:22):
The credit card companies are saying, don't worry about paying
you back, don't wry about it. You know you want
to go to Billy. I want to do that instead.
Speaker 3 (06:30):
My thing is like, who going to Billie Eilish with
them in London? Like you or Jay? Because they can't
technically fly over by themselves.
Speaker 2 (06:37):
I haven't even factored that in.
Speaker 3 (06:39):
So then for you that's another cost. Yeah, and you
haven't booked your tiki yet and it's nearly April, so
no intention. Yeah, I mean technically they're sixteen, so no,
I mean even kids. I don't know that they can
fly internationally without approval, not from sixteen.
Speaker 2 (07:00):
But you can send kids unaccompanied.
Speaker 3 (07:03):
Yeah, but you've got to have approval through that all right?
Speaker 2 (07:06):
Yeah? Actually yeah, because I remember, just let.
Speaker 3 (07:09):
Them go unaccompanied to London. That is a tough question.
I'm like, right now, my part would go, oh, absolutely not.
Speaker 2 (07:19):
The only good thing for me is that I've got
a lot of family over in London.
Speaker 3 (07:23):
Yeah. Yeah, and you trust that they would get off
the aircraft and then transit into the next aircraft okay
before going Like so they're in Dubai. Let's just say
they're in Dubai. They've got fourteen hours in Dubai between flights.
Speaker 2 (07:36):
Like, no, you're cool with that? No?
Speaker 3 (07:39):
No, I was like no Singapore, Like oh, they're just
transitting through Singapore and you're like okay, cool, So what
did you do in Singapore for like eight hours?
Speaker 2 (07:49):
What if they don't get on the flight because they
don't know where to go? I don't know where to
go when I stop over having to ask people and
be like where do I need to go?
Speaker 3 (07:57):
What? Time?
Speaker 2 (07:58):
Like checking the poor. In my mind, it was like, okay,
get on at Brisbane, we're here, get off at London. Yeah,
family member picks them up. Yeah, my cousin works that
he throw he's already there.
Speaker 3 (08:10):
That's a long way. You understand. This is not Brisboo Sydney.
It's a big job. So one of you are going.
So that's another expense for you just to come up.
I just want to bring that up because I don't
think your brain had gone there yet.
Speaker 2 (08:21):
I want to go.
Speaker 3 (08:22):
And what will they do when they get to London?
Are they going to expect to be in that line
up again? Yeah?
Speaker 2 (08:27):
They want to camp, camp.
Speaker 3 (08:29):
Get married, Oh my gosh, that's so yeah.
Speaker 2 (08:35):
No, don't don't know how this has turned into everyone
going on a big trip to London in July.
Speaker 3 (08:42):
Yes, you are. We're going to see Billy alish you
in London. You're going
Apogae production, Welcome back to another episode, And.
Speaker 2 (00:24):
Am I a mad mom podcast? It is the question
we constantly ask. The content never runs out, No, it doesn't.
I'm actually in a situation at the moment where I
had to have a chat with my girls about the
fact that I don't hear anything from them, like, oh God.
Speaker 3 (00:43):
How is your day? Yeah?
Speaker 2 (00:44):
Yeah, good, Like there's nothing to tell me until ten pm,
and then at ten pm they want to tell me
everything about the whole day, about who's done. What I
said to HollyHood day, I was like, Okay, how is
your day? Talk to me, tell me what's going on,
how are you feeling? And she went fine, why And
I won't because I don't want you to keep coming
(01:05):
in at ten pm and then telling me everything when
I just want to finish off show i'm watching and
go to bed. I don't want that to be the
time to talk. And it made me feel bad because
I was like, I'm not telling you, I don't want
to talk to you. Yeah, I just don't want to
hear it all late at night.
Speaker 3 (01:20):
I've said this before too. Is that bandwidth? Like every
one of us human being has definitely got different bandwidths.
Like I think my bandwidth it sort of runs out
about eight pm. And it's just interesting how they feel
comfortable after being home probably from what four pm? Yeah,
and they've just built the confidence to talk to you
at ten pm. That is so much time in between.
Speaker 2 (01:45):
Yeah, And I think it's also because they have their devices,
phones or whatever, and then they have to give it back,
give it back, and so then it's like we've got
something else as I'll talk to you. Am I a
(02:09):
bad mum for making them pay?
Speaker 3 (02:12):
The question is for what? Because right now you're got
some big things coming up for what they're paying for.
Speaker 2 (02:19):
Yeah, so like not moving out.
Speaker 3 (02:20):
I'm not saying you're saying, oh move out now, Like
that's not what you're saying that but.
Speaker 2 (02:25):
Forty years Yeah, So my girls are at the stage.
We've talked about how they love going to concerts. Billie
Eilish was a big thing. They saved up money. They
bought three tickets to the same show. But then they
also wanted to get merch that's like exclusively only sold
at the concert, or there's like limited edition or things
(02:48):
like that. Anyway, we ended up lending the girls some
money and I said, don't worry about paying us back
until after the concerts and everything's been done, and then
I want a plan to how you're going to pay
us back. It's about two hundred dollars each.
Speaker 3 (03:04):
Yep.
Speaker 2 (03:05):
So now they're saving, yeah, because they want to get
a car.
Speaker 3 (03:10):
Yeah that was yeah, that was what I thought you
were talking about.
Speaker 2 (03:13):
Yeah, they're also saving to go to Billie Eilish in
London in July. I was like, that's not happening. No,
you're not saving that much money to go fly to London, yeah,
in July. And then it's that whole battle rage of going.
They've put together a plan of how they're going to
(03:36):
make money, how much money they need per I think
it's twenty five dollars per day they need to make
or something done, a list of how they're going to
make the money. Obviously they've got jobs at macas. They've
also put like babysitting and like a whole bunch of
things on this list. Like they've pulled together a very
well thought out plan. Now, as a parent, I've got
(03:57):
this battle of going, do I shoot their dreams down
and just go that's not happening, You're never gonna make it,
Or do I allow them to.
Speaker 3 (04:08):
Well whenever they're in anticipating that they're going to Number
one is the reality. I love that. I love the
whole thing that they've gone to the extreme of the
reality of it is that if you were wanting to
be able to how are you're going to afford to
pay for the airfare which you'd probably want to be
booking somewhat soon for July. How are you going to
(04:30):
be paying for that? Straight up?
Speaker 2 (04:31):
Yeah, Well, they've got this plan. They've got the plan,
and the plan makes sense. I still think if you
said to me, do you want to go to Europe
in July, I'd be like, no, I'm not going to
be able to have enough money to go to Europe.
It's that fine line of going do I encourage them.
Speaker 3 (04:50):
To reach for the stoach for the stars or.
Speaker 2 (04:53):
Do I shut it down and go no, that's never
going to happen.
Speaker 3 (04:56):
I think the worst case scenario would be let them
reach for the stars when they get to July. Let's
just say July twenty, when Billy is playing in and
they're not there, they'll have a heap of money saved
up to go straight into the car account.
Speaker 2 (05:11):
Yeah, and the other thing rach is. And this is
the whole Am I a bad mum for making them pay?
Is that I'm standing my ground with the money that
they owe us. Absolutely, And the reason I'm doing it
is because I'm like, it's so important to take responsibility
over your debt. You need a way to pay that
(05:34):
back first. So when they say to me, Mum, can
I do some jobs? And Jay will go, yeah, you
need clean up the yard or whatever, and it's worth
this much money, I'm like, but don't forget that needs
to come back to us because that's what you owe.
And then afterwards then you're you're saying all right, But
then it makes me.
Speaker 3 (05:52):
Now because you're not teaching them any life lessons. Yeah,
because when someone later on in life is like, no,
you still owe me two hundred dollars for rent and
they go, can I just do some jobs around the
house for You're like, no, unfortunately, no, I just need
the cash.
Speaker 2 (06:05):
And understand could go don't worry about it, don't worry
about paying us back. You just save your money. But
then I'm like, no, that's teaching them nothing.
Speaker 3 (06:13):
No, well who was doing that for you at their age?
Speaker 1 (06:16):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (06:16):
And also you know, you run up a bill on
your credit card.
Speaker 3 (06:20):
You're not say it's okay.
Speaker 2 (06:22):
The credit card companies are saying, don't worry about paying
you back, don't wry about it. You know you want
to go to Billy. I want to do that instead.
Speaker 3 (06:30):
My thing is like, who going to Billie Eilish with
them in London? Like you or Jay? Because they can't
technically fly over by themselves.
Speaker 2 (06:37):
I haven't even factored that in.
Speaker 3 (06:39):
So then for you that's another cost. Yeah, and you
haven't booked your tiki yet and it's nearly April, so
no intention. Yeah, I mean technically they're sixteen, so no,
I mean even kids. I don't know that they can
fly internationally without approval, not from sixteen.
Speaker 2 (07:00):
But you can send kids unaccompanied.
Speaker 3 (07:03):
Yeah, but you've got to have approval through that all right?
Speaker 2 (07:06):
Yeah? Actually yeah, because I remember, just let.
Speaker 3 (07:09):
Them go unaccompanied to London. That is a tough question.
I'm like, right now, my part would go, oh, absolutely not.
Speaker 2 (07:19):
The only good thing for me is that I've got
a lot of family over in London.
Speaker 3 (07:23):
Yeah. Yeah, and you trust that they would get off
the aircraft and then transit into the next aircraft okay
before going Like so they're in Dubai. Let's just say
they're in Dubai. They've got fourteen hours in Dubai between flights.
Speaker 2 (07:36):
Like, no, you're cool with that? No?
Speaker 3 (07:39):
No, I was like no Singapore, Like oh, they're just
transitting through Singapore and you're like okay, cool, So what
did you do in Singapore for like eight hours?
Speaker 2 (07:49):
What if they don't get on the flight because they
don't know where to go? I don't know where to
go when I stop over having to ask people and
be like where do I need to go?
Speaker 3 (07:57):
What? Time?
Speaker 2 (07:58):
Like checking the poor. In my mind, it was like, okay,
get on at Brisbane, we're here, get off at London. Yeah,
family member picks them up. Yeah, my cousin works that
he throw he's already there.
Speaker 3 (08:10):
That's a long way. You understand. This is not Brisboo Sydney.
It's a big job. So one of you are going.
So that's another expense for you just to come up.
I just want to bring that up because I don't
think your brain had gone there yet.
Speaker 2 (08:21):
I want to go.
Speaker 3 (08:22):
And what will they do when they get to London?
Are they going to expect to be in that line
up again? Yeah?
Speaker 2 (08:27):
They want to camp, camp.
Speaker 3 (08:29):
Get married, Oh my gosh, that's so yeah.
Speaker 2 (08:35):
No, don't don't know how this has turned into everyone
going on a big trip to London in July.
Speaker 3 (08:42):
Yes, you are. We're going to see Billy alish you
in London. You're going
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