March 13, 2025 • 32 mins
Jeff Naper, Major Account Executive at iHeart Media, joins Trent and Patrick on the "At Home with Roby" podcast. He reflects on playing intramural basketball at Wake Forest against greats like Rodney Rogers, his quick shift from working as a CPA to his first job in radio at 106.5 The End, and the piece of advice he received from Dan Fox at the Masters Tournament that has led to a genuine friendship between the two. Jeff also shares three pieces of simple wisdom that guide his life and that he’s passing along to his sons.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Welcome to At Home with Roby.
Speaker 2 (00:01):
I'm Patrick mcaac from Robie Commercial and Services along with
Trent Hayston from the Roby Family of Companies.
Speaker 1 (00:06):
We are your hosts. What's up, Patty? Not much, man?
What's up with you? How you doing?
Speaker 2 (00:12):
I'm doing I'm doing much better now, much better.
Speaker 3 (00:16):
Why because on the last episode you were you flip
flopped flip flopped.
Speaker 1 (00:21):
Yes, I hear you, Yeah, flip flop.
Speaker 3 (00:24):
You and Kenny Chess and me, Hey, uh do you
like when Christian McCall casts you Pat?
Speaker 1 (00:32):
I'm just curious.
Speaker 2 (00:34):
So it's funny that you say that. When I was
a kid, this is why she calls me that. When
I was a kid, I hated to be called Pat.
Speaker 1 (00:41):
I hated it, and I was that's not my name.
My name is Patrick. You just hear me like whining
like that? Right?
Speaker 2 (00:47):
So she called winto that and I might have told
you that as well. Said, now she called me Pat,
and I call her Chris. So Christian McCall's giving you
a hard time.
Speaker 1 (00:56):
She's given me a hard time. Also gives me a
heart time. It's a good little I like it.
Speaker 3 (01:02):
Was that when the Saturday Night Skip Saturday Night Live
Skit was.
Speaker 1 (01:05):
About Pat that Pat Sajak was around. He is pretty good. Mean,
he was pretty cool.
Speaker 3 (01:11):
Mean he over came some height challenges, vertically challenged.
Speaker 1 (01:17):
Vana White all the time.
Speaker 3 (01:19):
I mean, I think past Sayjack did something special with
his life.
Speaker 1 (01:24):
I hope he's happy, because he seems happy.
Speaker 2 (01:26):
He couldn't reach that upper level of the of the letters,
so they had to bring in.
Speaker 3 (01:30):
Vanaway mana put her on the high heels.
Speaker 1 (01:32):
That's it.
Speaker 3 (01:32):
I had some high heils on in church the other
day and I told Piper, I was like, I am
taller than you. You need to shut up with chatter.
She said, you're wearing three inch heels, dude, how was that?
Speaker 1 (01:43):
What were you doing with three inches?
Speaker 3 (01:44):
Man? They call cowboy boots with heels.
Speaker 1 (01:49):
She gets some inserts put in there. I did not.
I have never done that.
Speaker 2 (01:54):
I will say, I like making fun of this side
of your body, but the other side's good.
Speaker 1 (01:58):
My profile, I hear you, I'll say. I'll say. We
had some new folks, new folks, younger.
Speaker 3 (02:06):
Couple uh at church a couple of months ago, and
I went up and said hello, and they they said, man,
you have the exact same profile.
Speaker 1 (02:14):
Of one of our really good friends.
Speaker 3 (02:16):
I was like, what's does he like him? I mean, like,
is he is it a good looking profile? We have
a big forehead, he's a trim his nosehair. What's going
on with this man? So I don't know if it
is even a man, But uh, I don't dude, I
figured it out.
Speaker 1 (02:32):
What's going on?
Speaker 2 (02:33):
That's where this shirt came from? Did you talked about
the last episode? You said you're not sure where this
shirt came from. Might come from their friend?
Speaker 3 (02:39):
No, it didn't, But uh, I got I'm in the
Eric Church fan club to church choir. I got his
his new whiskey, a Gypsy whiskey.
Speaker 1 (02:48):
Okay is debuting.
Speaker 3 (02:51):
I actually, uh received a bottle last year because of
a gift. I played in this thing and uh, I
think they were trying to mode it. And he did
a video and so I got my family. I said, hey,
come here and watch this is like a twenty second video.
I'm like, watch this video and they're like, you just
eat this up, don't you. I'm like, I look like
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it is.
Speaker 1 (03:17):
His forehead as big as my forehead. What's going on here?
I don't know? But did you what's the name of
his bar? In Nashville. Chiefs it is, did you buy?
I guess you could buy like a brick for that
place that you did. I did not. Alex in our
office did or you can become some sort of member.
Speaker 3 (03:33):
She didn't call me up and band ligging me.
Speaker 1 (03:36):
We'll see if she watched. Hey, Trent, you want to
brick at Eric Church's bar in Nashville.
Speaker 3 (03:43):
He he he made some pretty good music.
Speaker 1 (03:46):
You're a fan.
Speaker 3 (03:47):
I'm a fan here, so I like what he talks
about Carolina Boy. But uh, yeah, I recently went on
a Jared Cheney, one of our really good friends been
on the show, lived down in Georgia.
Speaker 1 (04:02):
Took me last.
Speaker 3 (04:03):
Week to a hunting club down in southern Georgia near
the Florida Georgia line and call Mossy Pond and man,
these guys they were so cool. We we had a
good time.
Speaker 1 (04:17):
That's awesome.
Speaker 3 (04:18):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (04:18):
It was at the Pheasant Quail.
Speaker 3 (04:21):
Pheasant and Quail one day and then the next morning
about five o'clock a m duck.
Speaker 1 (04:28):
Yes.
Speaker 3 (04:28):
Cool so uh but but just a special experience something
I wasn't able to grow up doing. I've been able
to do a couple of times in my life. And
I'll just tell everybody, I mean, you eat, you know,
you eat the food, so that's good.
Speaker 1 (04:44):
But it's just a good.
Speaker 3 (04:45):
Time and a lot of tradition behind it.
Speaker 2 (04:50):
I'll say, well, duck hunting is a big thing to
Daniel Ray, one of our nice vendors will give him
a shout out. It'll kind of segue into what I'm
going to tell you about what you know, the big
fellow sitting at the end of the bar here took
a couple of our teammates duck hunting did the whole
thing aided afterwards, and I thought that was pretty cool.
And I say that because it ties from your story together.
(05:12):
But Daniel's a serial networker. He's very good at connecting
people and knows a lot of people. And Jeff, who
I've known, you know, in and out for probably fifteen years,
is the same. I mean, everybody knows him and we're
going to learn a little bit talk to him about
about networking and just kind of you know, his stories,
which I think you'll find pretty cool.
Speaker 1 (05:33):
So you're like, are you teasing and what are you doing?
Is that what that's called?
Speaker 2 (05:37):
I don't know, care for here man, and people think
we're actually like legit hosts.
Speaker 1 (05:41):
Hey, you can't speak yet.
Speaker 2 (05:45):
Oh that's so hard for him too. I can tell
he wants to talk so bad. Calvin back here, show
nod in his head. He's like, yeah, he does. You
got to listen to this.
Speaker 3 (05:53):
So Jeff Jeff as our representative, I guess, account manager,
customer representative.
Speaker 1 (05:58):
For for iHeart, iHeart. Yeah. I've known Jeff for some years.
Speaker 3 (06:01):
I think a lot of us have because he is
such a great networker. We know each other, uh, mostly
through Make a Wish Foundation And I can't talk yet, but.
Speaker 1 (06:13):
As he's ever been. By the way, this is producer Kelvin. Hey, Kelvin,
I like it. You get you.
Speaker 3 (06:18):
Loosen it up a little bit.
Speaker 1 (06:19):
Man.
Speaker 3 (06:20):
I'm not gonna say that, but yeah, yeah, I got
a dog, I got you. But we like when the
producer chimes in. You guys with all the knowledge, I
don't know what's going on.
Speaker 1 (06:31):
They're like big brother.
Speaker 3 (06:36):
But no, I will give Jeff a compliment behind us back.
He embodies business and sales the way that we think
about it. And he's like, Hey, if I can put
people together and help people grow and find more happiness
and find more success, it will help me that's right,
and uh, it didn't hand out. What what have you
(06:58):
done for me lately? Is hey, meet this fella, meet
these people, go do this, join me here, and number
one will have fun doing it, but number two, who knows,
don't worry about it, but who knows what's gonna come
from it. So that's what I think about when I
think of Jeff. So he started begging to come on
(07:18):
the show, and I thought it would be a great
thing to have Jeff on the show. I will say
one more thing about Jeff. Last Friday night, at eleven thirty,
after I came back from Ossy Pine, I was extremely tired.
I had fallen asleep. My wife said, we gotta go
(07:39):
get rowing from the airport. She did a week in Hondurs,
proud Over. She's fifteen through her school. It was a
mission trip and hearn about twenty kids and some great
staff that are so nice and loving. Took them down
there for a week. And they came back and Jeff
was on the same flight from from Miami. I'm like,
(08:01):
nighpor what's up? And he's like, oh, he looked like
a zombie. I think he had a couple of cocktails. No,
I don't know, I'm playing. I did not think that
that incorrect, but it was cool and uh he had
just come back from a vacation in a region that
I love in the British Virgin Islands. So give a
shout out to to Tortola in that area. So love
(08:23):
the people, So tee it up.
Speaker 1 (08:25):
Yeah, we got Jeff Naper, iHeartMedia, Wakeforest Demon Deacon in
the house got a duke mug when we returned at
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(08:57):
You got to check us out. We are here on
ah Art Radio with the iHeart Man. You're starting to
sound country son.
Speaker 1 (09:04):
Maybe I'm maybe you're rubbing off on me. I don't know.
Speaker 3 (09:07):
Wait here on Hot Well Hot Radio and when going
to the Rodeo goodness gracious. I will say I recently
watched Binge watch Landman Fantastia started yet fantastic?
Speaker 1 (09:24):
Is it not unbelievable?
Speaker 3 (09:25):
Hey Jeff, how you doing? Dog up top? Nice to
see you man, and now we got you at our
level too. Know, this is a do you feel do
you feel.
Speaker 1 (09:35):
A little bit different?
Speaker 4 (09:36):
It is very interesting being clown like tall used to
a constant skycam like perspective, so it actually at the
level with other people it is.
Speaker 1 (09:47):
It's interesting. I can see why people that don't like
crowds you.
Speaker 2 (09:49):
Probably get you probably get a real interesting perspective on
the top of Trent's forehead.
Speaker 3 (09:55):
No, I was literally I was about to say, with
his height, he sees my thick top and crowning back.
Speaker 1 (10:03):
Uh Maine shorter people look up through.
Speaker 3 (10:08):
In the keys like a ski slope.
Speaker 1 (10:13):
I don't know.
Speaker 4 (10:14):
I you know, it's it's it's what you're used to, right,
everyone's I put a lot of product in my hair
and my wife's like, what's going on with it? Like
all spiky and stuff. You don't really realize it. So
I got nothing.
Speaker 1 (10:25):
I'm just trying. How tall are you? Six seven? Wow?
Speaker 3 (10:30):
Did you play basketball at the Demon d Yeah.
Speaker 4 (10:32):
Well, you know, I always say the answer is yes,
and then when they ask me more questions, I quickly
let them know that was innermurals.
Speaker 1 (10:40):
Oh yeah, I did some of that.
Speaker 4 (10:43):
But but you get asked all the time. But people
get so excited though, oh wow, you really played.
Speaker 2 (10:47):
You've got a pretty pretty cool story about playing intermwal
basketball with a couple of the Demon Deacon.
Speaker 4 (10:53):
Players, the legend Rodney Rogers. So you know, this is
back as I date myself, This is back and then
nineties on pre internet.
Speaker 1 (11:01):
Right.
Speaker 4 (11:01):
So I grew up in the Baltimore, DC area, and
i'd always go to McDonald's All American games, so i'd
watch these guys once again go not play, and I'd
see these guys and they'd have these McDonald's All American shorts.
And so i'd been at wake for an hour. I
met Massey Flippin' Tyro Virginia and he lives in Charlie.
Maybe he's listening now, really, the good old Massy and
(11:24):
I went out and played some basketball and then these
two guys walk over and one is just this hulking
beast of a man, and he's got his red McDonald's
all American shorts. I was like, that guy is probably
good at basketball. So we started playing, and you know
classic Napor basketball.
Speaker 3 (11:40):
You know.
Speaker 4 (11:41):
I made a couple outside shots, and then I was
limited by my lack of leaping ability and or quickness,
and we were tired at eighteen to eighteen.
Speaker 1 (11:49):
And then Rodney checked the ball and I'd.
Speaker 4 (11:52):
Hit a couple outside shots, and he got within a
poot of me, and I was like, dude, like I dribble,
you steal it.
Speaker 1 (11:56):
I shoot your block and just take it back.
Speaker 4 (11:58):
And then so maybe this is no surprise, but as
I always use comic relief as UH is a part
of my daily life, I basically said to Rodney, said, Rodney,
here's the deal. We all know you're better than me,
but right now you and I had to head free
throw shooting competition because in three months, when you're on
national TV, the pressure of the idea of not losing
(12:19):
to me in this free throw shooting competition is going
to make you a better player. So that was a
lot of fun. I can't remember who won, but it
was close.
Speaker 3 (12:27):
Did he he didn't do a three sixty dunk on
on North Carolina?
Speaker 4 (12:32):
You know that's saying something that guy. He was a player.
I mean he really was. He was Zion Williamson before
Zion Wow, the Durham Bull.
Speaker 1 (12:40):
I wish he had.
Speaker 3 (12:41):
I think he had some injuries, but I wish he
had done better in the NBA longer career.
Speaker 1 (12:47):
Yeah he was. He won a six man award. He
had a pretty good career.
Speaker 4 (12:51):
Uh cel tragedy yeah yeah, and the Celtics two and
a couple other places I believe, but he uh tragic
injury post career.
Speaker 1 (12:58):
He was on at he flipped over his paralyzed. Now,
oh horrible, that's so sad. Here good, such a good dude.
Wow yeah so yeah.
Speaker 2 (13:06):
Well you're doing really good with the formatting. You understand
how this show works.
Speaker 1 (13:10):
I like to bring people down your tragedy.
Speaker 2 (13:13):
No, no, no, we'vet we started out. Now we know
where you grew up. Now we know where you went
to college.
Speaker 1 (13:17):
What did you do? Ask? Why did you go to
Wake Forest? Yeah? From DC?
Speaker 4 (13:21):
Well, I'll you know, that's a great question. So I
always I grew up as a big Maryland fan and
my dad worked at the NSAY. One of his buddies
was a big Maryland booster, and I always wanted to
go to an a SEC school and he said, uh,
this Wake Forest place is great. And I never really,
you know, thought about it, but based upon that, I
went down and plaied early decision and got in and
(13:43):
so great school. And I've got three boys to go
to Wake and one goes to Duke.
Speaker 1 (13:48):
So there you go. It's my smart family. Heints to
do mug. There you go.
Speaker 3 (13:53):
So, so you have three boys, how old are they?
Speaker 1 (13:57):
They're in college now.
Speaker 4 (13:58):
Alex is twenty and you're at Duke, and Matthew and
Thomas are eighteen twins. They look nothing alike and they're
both at Wake.
Speaker 2 (14:05):
I'm kind of getting a little bit concerned. Jeff, just
before we get going too far. You have a Duke
mug literally in Trend's eyesight the entire time we're doing
this show. I'm starting to think that you did that
on purpose.
Speaker 1 (14:18):
I mean, you know, hey, I've got a pretty big
game coming up.
Speaker 4 (14:22):
I despise. It's for the record, despise Duke for forty
five years. That can be proven when you see me
on Hating late near thirty for thirty charging the court
and my big, tall, skinny six to seven frame in
the background.
Speaker 1 (14:34):
True story.
Speaker 4 (14:35):
But now that my son, Oh I want to watch
Oh yeah, I just righte. My buddy texted to me.
I was like, I was like, you're on thirty for thirty.
Speaker 1 (14:43):
I was like, for what eight?
Speaker 4 (14:48):
But yeah, that was the funniest thing. And yeah, I've
got a h He's like, oh yeah, we charged the court.
I remember it's back in the early nineties. I think
Duke was one of the two in the country. It
was with like Grand Hill and Early and Late the
Guys and Wake Up Seven, the many great wins when
I was there in the early nineties with Rodney and
Randolph children ran Owens so.
Speaker 2 (15:07):
During during that same time period. One of my closest
friends growing up, his dad was a coach at Georgia
Tech's basketball team, which they had some team.
Speaker 1 (15:16):
He was the assistant coach. Said one of us one Crimins.
Speaker 2 (15:20):
No, but my brother and I cut his grass, Bobby Cribins.
But he's just the nicest guy.
Speaker 3 (15:24):
Was his grass blonde was a blond or white.
Speaker 2 (15:30):
We did it a few times and like his his
regular person couldn't do it. But really good family. But
we were bob boys during that era. So we got
to sit on the back of the basket when all
these guys were coming through.
Speaker 3 (15:41):
Uh.
Speaker 2 (15:41):
A really cool story with dad is Malcolm Mackie was
at Georgia Tech. And I was a diehard Tar Heel fan,
you know that growing up by both my parents. And
my dad went to you and see him. Mom went
to you and cg and we were sitting in the
locker room. I was probably I don't know, eight or
nine years old, and I had a North Carolina hoodie on,
and Malcolm Mackie came in and said.
Speaker 1 (15:59):
North Carolina, North Carolina. He's seven feet tall. He grabs me,
throws me over his shoulder. He says, we're gonna go
clean you off in the showers, runs me. I'm like free.
Speaker 2 (16:10):
He's just such a great guy, right, just wanted to
like make some kids day. And here I am telling
the story thirty five years later. But those are some
fun ac times. Did he carry you down, carry me
over the shower and then you set me down and
and just was set it. No, we were there for
a football game and they were they were having practice,
and we just got to go and see him.
Speaker 1 (16:30):
But man, those accd pat listen, you can't had money.
He grew up.
Speaker 3 (16:33):
He was a ball boy. He was a caddy at
the club A caddy. Come on, man, I was digging
dishes straight. Look at you now, still still digging dishes. So, uh,
what brought you to to Charlotte?
Speaker 4 (16:50):
So I have a very popular career path and went
to Wick. I came out as a CPA, and uh,
wasn't the cure for boredom. Great background, a lot of
business their CPAs. But my dad, my parents will like,
get a job. You know you're good with numbers. Well
that doesn't mean I was a good auditor. So but
I did it for two years and then uh, I
decided at the time, I wanted to get into some
(17:11):
sort of sales. And in the nineties everybody wanted to
be a pharmaceutical rep. Right, so update, you know, I
wasn't an attractive female, but that you.
Speaker 1 (17:18):
Know, I still want to get But you're a former athlete,
very formal champion. So but yeah.
Speaker 4 (17:29):
So and she worked for an advertising agency in this
this radio station had just been created, one of six
five the end, so it was Pearl Jam Nirvana, the
start of alternative rock. And she's like, hey, why don't
you work for this radio station. I'd be like, why
would I ever do that? She's like, I think you'd
be good at it, And so they passed along my
resume and they're like, why would we hire this in
nerd accountant? And she's like, I think you'd be good
(17:49):
at it. So, uh yeah, it's kind of funny how
it all worked out. In the first day I went
into work, I held the door open for this very
attractive woman who now saw my wife.
Speaker 1 (18:00):
Wow. Yeah, there you go. It's funny how it works, right,
I'm a big fake guy.
Speaker 4 (18:03):
How that workt But yeah, I you know, the prior
girl we dated for a while and it was a
little bit of a you know, back and forth toxic relationship,
and moved on and my wife and I were friends
and you know, the Sinco de Mayo party, you know,
nothing like a little Corona courage at the graduate You
graduate today, Why we never gone out? She's like, we
never asked to see.
Speaker 1 (18:24):
Let's throwback right there, spend some time with the graduate
town you go back in the day.
Speaker 3 (18:28):
So how long how long have you been married? Twenty
four years? Press answered that so quickly. Yeah and pause.
Speaker 1 (18:36):
You gotta start doing the math.
Speaker 3 (18:38):
I'm a numbers guys say that's that's awesome, So uh
one o six five.
Speaker 1 (18:44):
It is an I heart station. It still is.
Speaker 4 (18:47):
Now we got a great morning show with Wooding Wilcox
and and uh they've done great, you know, twenty five
plus years in the in the business, and uh, you know,
things have evolved, right, We're we're on a podcast that
didn't exist when I started, right, So then journey right
and technology, the consumer journey, everything's evolved, right, And to me,
that's why I'm still doing this because you're learning constantly
(19:08):
and now as a company, iHeart what they've done is
they've made it easier to work with a point of
contact all across the country. So before you have to
kind of work out of a silo, they're like, oh, hey,
I got a business and Charlotte, but also one in
Raleigh and you know Charleston, Well you got to call
Jim and Billy down in there or whatever. And now
it's just it's much.
Speaker 1 (19:26):
Together one point.
Speaker 4 (19:26):
Fine, yeah, absolutely, And it's just you know, it's everything.
I mean, look at everything now, right, I mean, with
so much on demand, we're just talking about LANDMN right,
I Mean, at the end of the day, like so
much is on demand, it's the whole landscape has changed,
and it's fun because you're constantly learning about that. And
the great thing about podcasting is, you know, it's it's
kind of like modern day talk radio, right.
Speaker 1 (19:47):
You know.
Speaker 2 (19:48):
I'm glad you brought that up. I want to I
want to say two things. One is, h that's how
we re engage. Was you were like, hey, have you
ever thought about advertising on podcasts? And we're like, well,
not really, And so I think that's how our relationship
started back up. And Two, you are one of the
most networked people that I know. And it's because you're
so genuine, You're authentic, you're a good person. You are
(20:08):
you have great sense of humor, and so so talk
talk about we were talking about one particular story I
know you got. You're like Trent, you got a thousand
up in the arsenal, but one of them, I think
ties all this together, and that's your your your story
with with Scott salor Zone and even ties make a
wish together. And so maybe tell us a little bit
about that, and then uh, maybe a audies can clean
(20:28):
something off of it.
Speaker 4 (20:29):
Well, you know I think that you know, having three boys,
I was telling them, I said, I learned, you know,
one you got to work hard to find something you enjoy, right,
not just playing video games, but actually that could be
a career.
Speaker 1 (20:41):
And and people do you know you do with that now? Yeah?
Speaker 4 (20:44):
Actually, and and and and be nice to people, right,
I mean it's amazing, you know, being genuine and I'm
very truly authentic. I'm very curious about business and at
the same time too, like I love doing favors for people.
I know that sounds really weird, but I don't. I
don't do it expecting anything. I just genuinely like to
help people. And the cool thing about Charlotte is being
here for thirty years, you you kind of get dialed
(21:06):
in and connected and a lot of times you can
just do a favor for someone and it's just to me,
it's fun. And and with this industry, being in the
entertainment industry and access to concerts, sporting events or whatever,
it's fun to help.
Speaker 1 (21:16):
People up pretty much.
Speaker 4 (21:17):
Yeah, And so it's amazing what comes out of that randomly.
And but it was It's it's not like I was like, oh,
I'm gonna do this, and you do this. It's just whatever.
Just be nice to be that's right.
Speaker 2 (21:30):
No, I mean it's what you in the radio show
with every single week.
Speaker 3 (21:33):
Yeah, treat others the way you want to be traded.
Speaker 2 (21:35):
There podcasts with you in the podcast with I'm sorry,
but yeah, do do it exactly and carry a smile
on your face.
Speaker 1 (21:41):
Right. You just don't know what people are going through.
So it's very true. It was very It was amazing.
Speaker 4 (21:45):
I saw once the Chick filated a training video and
it's it's really is eye opening, and they literally showed
people walking in and they had those little like comic
clouds over their heads and it was like, you know,
this person just had as a sick aunt, or this
person had a pet that passed away or whatever.
Speaker 1 (22:00):
So you never know what's affecting people, right.
Speaker 3 (22:02):
You know, I talk a lot about that. Everybody's dealing
with something, and I talk to my kids about it.
And if you if you walk around and you show
everybody grace, whether it's a smile on your face or whatever,
or they come across the wrong way, you have no
clue what they're dealing with. And that doesn't make them
a bad person. And maybe maybe your kindness can show
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can change the whole trajectory of their even their life,
but most less their morning or their afternoon or their
day and uh, I don't know. Man, the world. You know,
as you get older, every day you live exponentially, you
realize the world is a tougher place the more tread
you have on your tires.
Speaker 1 (22:42):
Very true. So what stories Patrick talking about? Okay?
Speaker 4 (22:46):
So, so the beauty of this is I have been
mocked by my kids.
Speaker 1 (22:51):
I've been mocked by everybody. I have a theory. So
if you're you're you're tuning in and you're very good
with tech, Kelvin is mocking you down.
Speaker 4 (22:57):
Feel free to steal this and when it's on Shark Tank,
I'll be able to go back and say I gave
you the idea. So you know, it's funny how the
world works. Ironically, I got to go down to the
Masters with a good body of mine. Good doctor Dan
recently retired, one of the best geurologists in Charlotte and
also one of the best divers in the world behind
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Greg lugainis back and I met him through a guy
that had called and asked for tickets to the Van's
warped tour, and I got them tickets. Next thing you know,
he said, hey, do you like golf? I said, I
love golf. He's like I'm going to take you to
the Masters. I was like, I gave you Van's Warp
Tour tickets and you're taking me the Masters. I was like,
no way, this happens. Six months later, I'm going to
limo down to the Masters. So it was fortunate enough
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to go to Masters many years. And you know, when
you're there, there's a lot of standing around in golf,
and it's funny as a tall person sometimes you kind
of can get an idea of kind of what's going
on around you. And I saw this guy and he
had an NBC sports hat on, a little older, good
looking guy, and he wound up standing behind him, behind us,
and right on the first And this is right when
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Tiger had just come back a couple of years ago.
And long story short, we picked up a conversation, started talking,
going back and forth.
Speaker 1 (24:07):
And here's my idea, here's my million dollar idea. Drum roll.
Speaker 4 (24:11):
I looked at his golf shirt and I said, ah,
I don't recognize that logo. Where's that PVCC. It's like
a Paradise Valley Country Club. I said, Paradise Valley Is
that in Scottsdale. He's like, yeah, there's like forty thousand
people at Augusta and I start a conversation with this guy.
So we start talking. He starts grilling me with all
these questions. He's like, oh, how was the tournament. I
(24:33):
was like, it was amazing. He's like, did you make
it to the sixteenth hole, which is the famous hole
that they build the eighteen thousand seat stadium around. I
said I did, and lucky and luckily enough for a friend.
It was a family business in town. They were able
to get tickets in the suite. And I said, it
was unbelievable.
Speaker 1 (24:48):
Was the most.
Speaker 4 (24:48):
Fascinating place I've been fortunate to go to a lot
of events over the course of my life. I said,
place is just unbelievable. You can't you can't even imagine it.
And so he's like, I'm so glad you had a
good time. He goes, I run the hole. I'm like, what,
run the whole? The dude literally runs the whole.
Speaker 3 (25:07):
I'm like, this weird stuff happens the craziest hole and
go yeah, Litera.
Speaker 4 (25:12):
He is like the Grand Pooba Dan Fox. Look him up.
He stands there. He's got his his uh thunderbird out
his tunic and all the beads, which is interesting too,
by the way, every year they get an extra bead
for their seniority. And he's like dangling down around his
knees or whatever, and he's like, I stopp putting beads
on ten years ago. But the nicest guy, Wisconsin guy,
(25:33):
and I'm going to tell you this, This line was unbelievable.
So we talk for I don't know, thirty forty five minutes,
and I'm like, okay, this is this is meant to be.
I'm not ever afraid to ask. We developed the little
report I said. I said, Dan, I'd love to get
your cell number. I'd love to keep in touch. He's like,
happy to do it, gives me a cell phone number,
but you got to you know, you can't have your phone,
so you got to like write it down a piece
(25:54):
of paper stuffed deep in my pocket. And then we
continued to talk, and then I had to go and
meet up with the body. Mean, the coolest line ever
because it wasn't arrogant, it was very genuine, but it
was so well delivered. Feel free to steal this one.
This is you can steal this one when you give
out a gift of that cool mountain golf course.
Speaker 1 (26:11):
He's offering. I'm telling you, he's definitely selling you. Yeah.
So here's the line.
Speaker 2 (26:20):
He goes into, let's take a break first, just kidding
the very excited.
Speaker 4 (26:25):
He goes into his wallet. He pulls out he's got
an RBC, a wealth management card. He gives me his card,
but he looks me in the eye and, like I said,
not arrogant Wisconsin, good heart of the heart of the country.
Speaker 1 (26:36):
Nice guy.
Speaker 4 (26:36):
He goes, If you think you had fun two months
ago at the waste management open, don't sleep on the
offer to come back as my guest. I'm like, what
is going on?
Speaker 1 (26:47):
Wow?
Speaker 3 (26:48):
And let me tell you I went back and it
was so when on that line a million dollar lines delivered,
you can't say no, no, no, And and once again,
as my wife's heard, sleep only off, don't sleep on
the offer to come back as my personal guest.
Speaker 1 (27:02):
So how was it? It is?
Speaker 4 (27:04):
It is unbelievable. So we went in twenty twenty four.
The weather was horrible, but that's okay because I got
to go back in twenty twenty five. So, but it
was incredible. We he literally took us down. We were
on the tea box. We walked throughout the whole stadium.
We met all sorts of people. But you're walking around
with this guy and it's fascinating because there's only fifty
five i think active Thunderbirds and some guys that have
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kind of retired, so but everyone knows who they are.
So you you're walking with one of these guys, They're like,
he's with me. It's like the craziest thing ever. And
kind of like when you go out to all the clubs.
You know they let that rope.
Speaker 3 (27:36):
Yeah, they called me t Burr oh boy.
Speaker 4 (27:42):
So we went in and and I was unbelievable. And
then to fast forward, I work you mentioned Making Wish before.
I've had the honor of working on their development board
and I'm not like great at being like, hey, you know,
buy a table, or hey put your logo on this
and make this investment. But what I love to do
is come up with the most ridiculous live auction items,
(28:04):
things that are like what what can we do? So Dan,
I know they actually supported Make a Wish because they
had someone on Wednesday. It's called chaud of glory that
a Wish kid actually start off on Wednesday on the
par three where you know it was like Coach Saban
and Michael Phelps and Larry Fitzgerald, all these favorite guys,
famous guys trying to get a hole on one on
(28:24):
that whole of the firm money for charity. And first
kid was a wish kid. And so I said, I said,
after we're there in twenty twenty four, I said to Dan,
I said, Dan, I said, can you I'm on this
development board. I said, would you be willing to provide
the Dan Fox Experience for an auction item? And so
we were able to take the Dan Fox Experience, a
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seven bedroom VRBO and a private jet and raise sixty
five thousand dollars.
Speaker 1 (28:50):
Goodness, it's pretty good. Rights.
Speaker 4 (28:54):
And then the funniest part was the guys that were
the high bidders were like, hey, you organized it.
Speaker 1 (29:00):
Why don't you come along? So that's why you got
to go.
Speaker 3 (29:04):
Yeah, that's awesome, that's slick that. I call that polish
in your diamond. I mean you only have that window
and time to ask for that. I mean you can't
get back home, and then you can't get a hold
of Dan and this and that, and and then at
the pinnacle of the perfect time to ask, so you
(29:26):
seem like You're pretty good at timing things.
Speaker 1 (29:28):
You know.
Speaker 4 (29:29):
I'm just a big, tall, goofy guy that smiles. Would
you like to go to Diamond Creek?
Speaker 1 (29:33):
I thought you'd never.
Speaker 3 (29:34):
Asked when I give you the invitation, I got to
work on my delivery.
Speaker 1 (29:39):
Don't sleep on that.
Speaker 3 (29:42):
Personal guess that I might have told somebody a time
or two not to sleep on me. I don't know
if it was so eloquently said.
Speaker 2 (29:51):
This might have been different circumstances.
Speaker 3 (29:55):
So uh, you said you? This is your second podcast, mister,
iHeart salesman of the of the century, the first time
being on it in the studio.
Speaker 4 (30:06):
But I've been in the studio a bunch, but they
never actually asked me to talk. Sometimes I'm too loud,
and they probably pretty much Yeah, no, I'm gonna This
is what we call cross promotion. So my best man
in my wedding, uh lives in the Charms City not
so Charming Baltimore. I love it, go ohs and him
(30:27):
and two of his buddies have a podcast called Raw Justice.
Let me tell you want some hardcore streets of Baltimore stories,
He's got.
Speaker 1 (30:37):
He's actually just a goofball layer.
Speaker 4 (30:40):
They don't let me get a hardcore. He is well,
his stories are there. They're they're hilarious guys, and it's funny.
There's three guys. One of them is Alex who's best man,
was best man in my wedding. One of them is
a guy named John Hammond who's also an attorney, but
he coached me growing up in like little league baseball
and basketball. He's it was. It was the oddest thing
he was. He was only like five or six years
(31:01):
younger or older. So when I was eight and whatever,
these guys were, you know, sixteen, seventeen years old. But yeah,
great guy friends. And then the last guy, Rob Hobeck,
who beck is he was a he was the was
the principal at Gilman, a private school up in Baltimore,
and his son.
Speaker 1 (31:19):
Was the third round pick of the l A. Dodgers.
Speaker 4 (31:22):
So if you see Peter Hubeck and the you know,
the Dodger blue here in a couple of years.
Speaker 1 (31:26):
Yeah, oh wow, cool. I never know, I never know
who you gonna come across.
Speaker 3 (31:29):
How can people look you up if in case they're
interested in some advertising?
Speaker 4 (31:33):
Absolutely, Jeff Naper and a p R like paper and ap.
Everyone's throwing the eye in there the extra p.
Speaker 3 (31:40):
Je I'm gonna tell you, I'm gonna tell you guilty
le I through the eye. That okay, that's why I say.
Speaker 4 (31:49):
Jeff, I heeart media, are you gonna come come take
a tour of our beautiful There's more than just this video.
Speaker 3 (31:58):
And Jeff, I love the way you treat people and
the way you do business. So I'm gonna end it
on that and say, go do the Golden rule today,
treat others the way you want to be treated, and
carry a smile around on your face. And and we're
blessed to be here at iHeart excited about what the
future holds. And thanks Jeff for being part of it.
Speaker 1 (32:18):
It was blass. Thanks Els.
Welcome to At Home with Roby.
Speaker 2 (00:01):
I'm Patrick mcaac from Robie Commercial and Services along with
Trent Hayston from the Roby Family of Companies.
Speaker 1 (00:06):
We are your hosts. What's up, Patty? Not much, man?
What's up with you? How you doing?
Speaker 2 (00:12):
I'm doing I'm doing much better now, much better.
Speaker 3 (00:16):
Why because on the last episode you were you flip
flopped flip flopped.
Speaker 1 (00:21):
Yes, I hear you, Yeah, flip flop.
Speaker 3 (00:24):
You and Kenny Chess and me, Hey, uh do you
like when Christian McCall casts you Pat?
Speaker 1 (00:32):
I'm just curious.
Speaker 2 (00:34):
So it's funny that you say that. When I was
a kid, this is why she calls me that. When
I was a kid, I hated to be called Pat.
Speaker 1 (00:41):
I hated it, and I was that's not my name.
My name is Patrick. You just hear me like whining
like that? Right?
Speaker 2 (00:47):
So she called winto that and I might have told
you that as well. Said, now she called me Pat,
and I call her Chris. So Christian McCall's giving you
a hard time.
Speaker 1 (00:56):
She's given me a hard time. Also gives me a
heart time. It's a good little I like it.
Speaker 3 (01:02):
Was that when the Saturday Night Skip Saturday Night Live
Skit was.
Speaker 1 (01:05):
About Pat that Pat Sajak was around. He is pretty good. Mean,
he was pretty cool.
Speaker 3 (01:11):
Mean he over came some height challenges, vertically challenged.
Speaker 1 (01:17):
Vana White all the time.
Speaker 3 (01:19):
I mean, I think past Sayjack did something special with
his life.
Speaker 1 (01:24):
I hope he's happy, because he seems happy.
Speaker 2 (01:26):
He couldn't reach that upper level of the of the letters,
so they had to bring in.
Speaker 3 (01:30):
Vanaway mana put her on the high heels.
Speaker 1 (01:32):
That's it.
Speaker 3 (01:32):
I had some high heils on in church the other
day and I told Piper, I was like, I am
taller than you. You need to shut up with chatter.
She said, you're wearing three inch heels, dude, how was that?
Speaker 1 (01:43):
What were you doing with three inches?
Speaker 3 (01:44):
Man? They call cowboy boots with heels.
Speaker 1 (01:49):
She gets some inserts put in there. I did not.
I have never done that.
Speaker 2 (01:54):
I will say, I like making fun of this side
of your body, but the other side's good.
Speaker 1 (01:58):
My profile, I hear you, I'll say. I'll say. We
had some new folks, new folks, younger.
Speaker 3 (02:06):
Couple uh at church a couple of months ago, and
I went up and said hello, and they they said, man,
you have the exact same profile.
Speaker 1 (02:14):
Of one of our really good friends.
Speaker 3 (02:16):
I was like, what's does he like him? I mean, like,
is he is it a good looking profile? We have
a big forehead, he's a trim his nosehair. What's going
on with this man? So I don't know if it
is even a man, But uh, I don't dude, I
figured it out.
Speaker 1 (02:32):
What's going on?
Speaker 2 (02:33):
That's where this shirt came from? Did you talked about
the last episode? You said you're not sure where this
shirt came from. Might come from their friend?
Speaker 3 (02:39):
No, it didn't, But uh, I got I'm in the
Eric Church fan club to church choir. I got his
his new whiskey, a Gypsy whiskey.
Speaker 1 (02:48):
Okay is debuting.
Speaker 3 (02:51):
I actually, uh received a bottle last year because of
a gift. I played in this thing and uh, I
think they were trying to mode it. And he did
a video and so I got my family. I said, hey,
come here and watch this is like a twenty second video.
I'm like, watch this video and they're like, you just
eat this up, don't you. I'm like, I look like
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it is.
Speaker 1 (03:17):
His forehead as big as my forehead. What's going on here?
I don't know? But did you what's the name of
his bar? In Nashville. Chiefs it is, did you buy?
I guess you could buy like a brick for that
place that you did. I did not. Alex in our
office did or you can become some sort of member.
Speaker 3 (03:33):
She didn't call me up and band ligging me.
Speaker 1 (03:36):
We'll see if she watched. Hey, Trent, you want to
brick at Eric Church's bar in Nashville.
Speaker 3 (03:43):
He he he made some pretty good music.
Speaker 1 (03:46):
You're a fan.
Speaker 3 (03:47):
I'm a fan here, so I like what he talks
about Carolina Boy. But uh, yeah, I recently went on
a Jared Cheney, one of our really good friends been
on the show, lived down in Georgia.
Speaker 1 (04:02):
Took me last.
Speaker 3 (04:03):
Week to a hunting club down in southern Georgia near
the Florida Georgia line and call Mossy Pond and man,
these guys they were so cool. We we had a
good time.
Speaker 1 (04:17):
That's awesome.
Speaker 3 (04:18):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (04:18):
It was at the Pheasant Quail.
Speaker 3 (04:21):
Pheasant and Quail one day and then the next morning
about five o'clock a m duck.
Speaker 1 (04:28):
Yes.
Speaker 3 (04:28):
Cool so uh but but just a special experience something
I wasn't able to grow up doing. I've been able
to do a couple of times in my life. And
I'll just tell everybody, I mean, you eat, you know,
you eat the food, so that's good.
Speaker 1 (04:44):
But it's just a good.
Speaker 3 (04:45):
Time and a lot of tradition behind it.
Speaker 2 (04:50):
I'll say, well, duck hunting is a big thing to
Daniel Ray, one of our nice vendors will give him
a shout out. It'll kind of segue into what I'm
going to tell you about what you know, the big
fellow sitting at the end of the bar here took
a couple of our teammates duck hunting did the whole
thing aided afterwards, and I thought that was pretty cool.
And I say that because it ties from your story together.
(05:12):
But Daniel's a serial networker. He's very good at connecting
people and knows a lot of people. And Jeff, who
I've known, you know, in and out for probably fifteen years,
is the same. I mean, everybody knows him and we're
going to learn a little bit talk to him about
about networking and just kind of you know, his stories,
which I think you'll find pretty cool.
Speaker 1 (05:33):
So you're like, are you teasing and what are you doing?
Is that what that's called?
Speaker 2 (05:37):
I don't know, care for here man, and people think
we're actually like legit hosts.
Speaker 1 (05:41):
Hey, you can't speak yet.
Speaker 2 (05:45):
Oh that's so hard for him too. I can tell
he wants to talk so bad. Calvin back here, show
nod in his head. He's like, yeah, he does. You
got to listen to this.
Speaker 3 (05:53):
So Jeff Jeff as our representative, I guess, account manager,
customer representative.
Speaker 1 (05:58):
For for iHeart, iHeart. Yeah. I've known Jeff for some years.
Speaker 3 (06:01):
I think a lot of us have because he is
such a great networker. We know each other, uh, mostly
through Make a Wish Foundation And I can't talk yet, but.
Speaker 1 (06:13):
As he's ever been. By the way, this is producer Kelvin. Hey, Kelvin,
I like it. You get you.
Speaker 3 (06:18):
Loosen it up a little bit.
Speaker 1 (06:19):
Man.
Speaker 3 (06:20):
I'm not gonna say that, but yeah, yeah, I got
a dog, I got you. But we like when the
producer chimes in. You guys with all the knowledge, I
don't know what's going on.
Speaker 1 (06:31):
They're like big brother.
Speaker 3 (06:36):
But no, I will give Jeff a compliment behind us back.
He embodies business and sales the way that we think
about it. And he's like, Hey, if I can put
people together and help people grow and find more happiness
and find more success, it will help me that's right,
and uh, it didn't hand out. What what have you
(06:58):
done for me lately? Is hey, meet this fella, meet
these people, go do this, join me here, and number
one will have fun doing it, but number two, who knows,
don't worry about it, but who knows what's gonna come
from it. So that's what I think about when I
think of Jeff. So he started begging to come on
(07:18):
the show, and I thought it would be a great
thing to have Jeff on the show. I will say
one more thing about Jeff. Last Friday night, at eleven thirty,
after I came back from Ossy Pine, I was extremely tired.
I had fallen asleep. My wife said, we gotta go
(07:39):
get rowing from the airport. She did a week in Hondurs,
proud Over. She's fifteen through her school. It was a
mission trip and hearn about twenty kids and some great
staff that are so nice and loving. Took them down
there for a week. And they came back and Jeff
was on the same flight from from Miami. I'm like,
(08:01):
nighpor what's up? And he's like, oh, he looked like
a zombie. I think he had a couple of cocktails. No,
I don't know, I'm playing. I did not think that
that incorrect, but it was cool and uh he had
just come back from a vacation in a region that
I love in the British Virgin Islands. So give a
shout out to to Tortola in that area. So love
(08:23):
the people, So tee it up.
Speaker 1 (08:25):
Yeah, we got Jeff Naper, iHeartMedia, Wakeforest Demon Deacon in
the house got a duke mug when we returned at
Home with.
Speaker 2 (08:35):
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Roby servicesnow dot com. That's robyservicesnow dot com. Welcome back
at Home with Roby. I'm Patrick Pacasac from Robie Commercial
and Services along with Trent Houston from the Roby family
of companies. If you missed the last segment, go back.
(08:57):
You got to check us out. We are here on
ah Art Radio with the iHeart Man. You're starting to
sound country son.
Speaker 1 (09:04):
Maybe I'm maybe you're rubbing off on me. I don't know.
Speaker 3 (09:07):
Wait here on Hot Well Hot Radio and when going
to the Rodeo goodness gracious. I will say I recently
watched Binge watch Landman Fantastia started yet fantastic?
Speaker 1 (09:24):
Is it not unbelievable?
Speaker 3 (09:25):
Hey Jeff, how you doing? Dog up top? Nice to
see you man, and now we got you at our
level too. Know, this is a do you feel do
you feel.
Speaker 1 (09:35):
A little bit different?
Speaker 4 (09:36):
It is very interesting being clown like tall used to
a constant skycam like perspective, so it actually at the
level with other people it is.
Speaker 1 (09:47):
It's interesting. I can see why people that don't like
crowds you.
Speaker 2 (09:49):
Probably get you probably get a real interesting perspective on
the top of Trent's forehead.
Speaker 3 (09:55):
No, I was literally I was about to say, with
his height, he sees my thick top and crowning back.
Speaker 1 (10:03):
Uh Maine shorter people look up through.
Speaker 3 (10:08):
In the keys like a ski slope.
Speaker 1 (10:13):
I don't know.
Speaker 4 (10:14):
I you know, it's it's it's what you're used to, right,
everyone's I put a lot of product in my hair
and my wife's like, what's going on with it? Like
all spiky and stuff. You don't really realize it. So
I got nothing.
Speaker 1 (10:25):
I'm just trying. How tall are you? Six seven? Wow?
Speaker 3 (10:30):
Did you play basketball at the Demon d Yeah.
Speaker 4 (10:32):
Well, you know, I always say the answer is yes,
and then when they ask me more questions, I quickly
let them know that was innermurals.
Speaker 1 (10:40):
Oh yeah, I did some of that.
Speaker 4 (10:43):
But but you get asked all the time. But people
get so excited though, oh wow, you really played.
Speaker 2 (10:47):
You've got a pretty pretty cool story about playing intermwal
basketball with a couple of the Demon Deacon.
Speaker 4 (10:53):
Players, the legend Rodney Rogers. So you know, this is
back as I date myself, This is back and then
nineties on pre internet.
Speaker 1 (11:01):
Right.
Speaker 4 (11:01):
So I grew up in the Baltimore, DC area, and
i'd always go to McDonald's All American games, so i'd
watch these guys once again go not play, and I'd
see these guys and they'd have these McDonald's All American shorts.
And so i'd been at wake for an hour. I
met Massey Flippin' Tyro Virginia and he lives in Charlie.
Maybe he's listening now, really, the good old Massy and
(11:24):
I went out and played some basketball and then these
two guys walk over and one is just this hulking
beast of a man, and he's got his red McDonald's
all American shorts. I was like, that guy is probably
good at basketball. So we started playing, and you know
classic Napor basketball.
Speaker 3 (11:40):
You know.
Speaker 4 (11:41):
I made a couple outside shots, and then I was
limited by my lack of leaping ability and or quickness,
and we were tired at eighteen to eighteen.
Speaker 1 (11:49):
And then Rodney checked the ball and I'd.
Speaker 4 (11:52):
Hit a couple outside shots, and he got within a
poot of me, and I was like, dude, like I dribble,
you steal it.
Speaker 1 (11:56):
I shoot your block and just take it back.
Speaker 4 (11:58):
And then so maybe this is no surprise, but as
I always use comic relief as UH is a part
of my daily life, I basically said to Rodney, said, Rodney,
here's the deal. We all know you're better than me,
but right now you and I had to head free
throw shooting competition because in three months, when you're on
national TV, the pressure of the idea of not losing
(12:19):
to me in this free throw shooting competition is going
to make you a better player. So that was a
lot of fun. I can't remember who won, but it
was close.
Speaker 3 (12:27):
Did he he didn't do a three sixty dunk on
on North Carolina?
Speaker 4 (12:32):
You know that's saying something that guy. He was a player.
I mean he really was. He was Zion Williamson before
Zion Wow, the Durham Bull.
Speaker 1 (12:40):
I wish he had.
Speaker 3 (12:41):
I think he had some injuries, but I wish he
had done better in the NBA longer career.
Speaker 1 (12:47):
Yeah he was. He won a six man award. He
had a pretty good career.
Speaker 4 (12:51):
Uh cel tragedy yeah yeah, and the Celtics two and
a couple other places I believe, but he uh tragic
injury post career.
Speaker 1 (12:58):
He was on at he flipped over his paralyzed. Now,
oh horrible, that's so sad. Here good, such a good dude.
Wow yeah so yeah.
Speaker 2 (13:06):
Well you're doing really good with the formatting. You understand
how this show works.
Speaker 1 (13:10):
I like to bring people down your tragedy.
Speaker 2 (13:13):
No, no, no, we'vet we started out. Now we know
where you grew up. Now we know where you went
to college.
Speaker 1 (13:17):
What did you do? Ask? Why did you go to
Wake Forest? Yeah? From DC?
Speaker 4 (13:21):
Well, I'll you know, that's a great question. So I
always I grew up as a big Maryland fan and
my dad worked at the NSAY. One of his buddies
was a big Maryland booster, and I always wanted to
go to an a SEC school and he said, uh,
this Wake Forest place is great. And I never really,
you know, thought about it, but based upon that, I
went down and plaied early decision and got in and
(13:43):
so great school. And I've got three boys to go
to Wake and one goes to Duke.
Speaker 1 (13:48):
So there you go. It's my smart family. Heints to
do mug. There you go.
Speaker 3 (13:53):
So, so you have three boys, how old are they?
Speaker 1 (13:57):
They're in college now.
Speaker 4 (13:58):
Alex is twenty and you're at Duke, and Matthew and
Thomas are eighteen twins. They look nothing alike and they're
both at Wake.
Speaker 2 (14:05):
I'm kind of getting a little bit concerned. Jeff, just
before we get going too far. You have a Duke
mug literally in Trend's eyesight the entire time we're doing
this show. I'm starting to think that you did that
on purpose.
Speaker 1 (14:18):
I mean, you know, hey, I've got a pretty big
game coming up.
Speaker 4 (14:22):
I despise. It's for the record, despise Duke for forty
five years. That can be proven when you see me
on Hating late near thirty for thirty charging the court
and my big, tall, skinny six to seven frame in
the background.
Speaker 1 (14:34):
True story.
Speaker 4 (14:35):
But now that my son, Oh I want to watch
Oh yeah, I just righte. My buddy texted to me.
I was like, I was like, you're on thirty for thirty.
Speaker 1 (14:43):
I was like, for what eight?
Speaker 4 (14:48):
But yeah, that was the funniest thing. And yeah, I've
got a h He's like, oh yeah, we charged the court.
I remember it's back in the early nineties. I think
Duke was one of the two in the country. It
was with like Grand Hill and Early and Late the
Guys and Wake Up Seven, the many great wins when
I was there in the early nineties with Rodney and
Randolph children ran Owens so.
Speaker 2 (15:07):
During during that same time period. One of my closest
friends growing up, his dad was a coach at Georgia
Tech's basketball team, which they had some team.
Speaker 1 (15:16):
He was the assistant coach. Said one of us one Crimins.
Speaker 2 (15:20):
No, but my brother and I cut his grass, Bobby Cribins.
But he's just the nicest guy.
Speaker 3 (15:24):
Was his grass blonde was a blond or white.
Speaker 2 (15:30):
We did it a few times and like his his
regular person couldn't do it. But really good family. But
we were bob boys during that era. So we got
to sit on the back of the basket when all
these guys were coming through.
Speaker 3 (15:41):
Uh.
Speaker 2 (15:41):
A really cool story with dad is Malcolm Mackie was
at Georgia Tech. And I was a diehard Tar Heel fan,
you know that growing up by both my parents. And
my dad went to you and see him. Mom went
to you and cg and we were sitting in the
locker room. I was probably I don't know, eight or
nine years old, and I had a North Carolina hoodie on,
and Malcolm Mackie came in and said.
Speaker 1 (15:59):
North Carolina, North Carolina. He's seven feet tall. He grabs me,
throws me over his shoulder. He says, we're gonna go
clean you off in the showers, runs me. I'm like free.
Speaker 2 (16:10):
He's just such a great guy, right, just wanted to
like make some kids day. And here I am telling
the story thirty five years later. But those are some
fun ac times. Did he carry you down, carry me
over the shower and then you set me down and
and just was set it. No, we were there for
a football game and they were they were having practice,
and we just got to go and see him.
Speaker 1 (16:30):
But man, those accd pat listen, you can't had money.
He grew up.
Speaker 3 (16:33):
He was a ball boy. He was a caddy at
the club A caddy. Come on, man, I was digging
dishes straight. Look at you now, still still digging dishes. So, uh,
what brought you to to Charlotte?
Speaker 4 (16:50):
So I have a very popular career path and went
to Wick. I came out as a CPA, and uh,
wasn't the cure for boredom. Great background, a lot of
business their CPAs. But my dad, my parents will like,
get a job. You know you're good with numbers. Well
that doesn't mean I was a good auditor. So but
I did it for two years and then uh, I
decided at the time, I wanted to get into some
(17:11):
sort of sales. And in the nineties everybody wanted to
be a pharmaceutical rep. Right, so update, you know, I
wasn't an attractive female, but that you.
Speaker 1 (17:18):
Know, I still want to get But you're a former athlete,
very formal champion. So but yeah.
Speaker 4 (17:29):
So and she worked for an advertising agency in this
this radio station had just been created, one of six
five the end, so it was Pearl Jam Nirvana, the
start of alternative rock. And she's like, hey, why don't
you work for this radio station. I'd be like, why
would I ever do that? She's like, I think you'd
be good at it, And so they passed along my
resume and they're like, why would we hire this in
nerd accountant? And she's like, I think you'd be good
(17:49):
at it. So, uh yeah, it's kind of funny how
it all worked out. In the first day I went
into work, I held the door open for this very
attractive woman who now saw my wife.
Speaker 1 (18:00):
Wow. Yeah, there you go. It's funny how it works, right,
I'm a big fake guy.
Speaker 4 (18:03):
How that workt But yeah, I you know, the prior
girl we dated for a while and it was a
little bit of a you know, back and forth toxic relationship,
and moved on and my wife and I were friends
and you know, the Sinco de Mayo party, you know,
nothing like a little Corona courage at the graduate You
graduate today, Why we never gone out? She's like, we
never asked to see.
Speaker 1 (18:24):
Let's throwback right there, spend some time with the graduate
town you go back in the day.
Speaker 3 (18:28):
So how long how long have you been married? Twenty
four years? Press answered that so quickly. Yeah and pause.
Speaker 1 (18:36):
You gotta start doing the math.
Speaker 3 (18:38):
I'm a numbers guys say that's that's awesome, So uh
one o six five.
Speaker 1 (18:44):
It is an I heart station. It still is.
Speaker 4 (18:47):
Now we got a great morning show with Wooding Wilcox
and and uh they've done great, you know, twenty five
plus years in the in the business, and uh, you know,
things have evolved, right, We're we're on a podcast that
didn't exist when I started, right, So then journey right
and technology, the consumer journey, everything's evolved, right, And to me,
that's why I'm still doing this because you're learning constantly
(19:08):
and now as a company, iHeart what they've done is
they've made it easier to work with a point of
contact all across the country. So before you have to
kind of work out of a silo, they're like, oh, hey,
I got a business and Charlotte, but also one in
Raleigh and you know Charleston, Well you got to call
Jim and Billy down in there or whatever. And now
it's just it's much.
Speaker 1 (19:26):
Together one point.
Speaker 4 (19:26):
Fine, yeah, absolutely, And it's just you know, it's everything.
I mean, look at everything now, right, I mean, with
so much on demand, we're just talking about LANDMN right,
I Mean, at the end of the day, like so
much is on demand, it's the whole landscape has changed,
and it's fun because you're constantly learning about that. And
the great thing about podcasting is, you know, it's it's
kind of like modern day talk radio, right.
Speaker 1 (19:47):
You know.
Speaker 2 (19:48):
I'm glad you brought that up. I want to I
want to say two things. One is, h that's how
we re engage. Was you were like, hey, have you
ever thought about advertising on podcasts? And we're like, well,
not really, And so I think that's how our relationship
started back up. And Two, you are one of the
most networked people that I know. And it's because you're
so genuine, You're authentic, you're a good person. You are
(20:08):
you have great sense of humor, and so so talk
talk about we were talking about one particular story I
know you got. You're like Trent, you got a thousand
up in the arsenal, but one of them, I think
ties all this together, and that's your your your story
with with Scott salor Zone and even ties make a
wish together. And so maybe tell us a little bit
about that, and then uh, maybe a audies can clean
(20:28):
something off of it.
Speaker 4 (20:29):
Well, you know I think that you know, having three boys,
I was telling them, I said, I learned, you know,
one you got to work hard to find something you enjoy, right,
not just playing video games, but actually that could be
a career.
Speaker 1 (20:41):
And and people do you know you do with that now? Yeah?
Speaker 4 (20:44):
Actually, and and and and be nice to people, right,
I mean it's amazing, you know, being genuine and I'm
very truly authentic. I'm very curious about business and at
the same time too, like I love doing favors for people.
I know that sounds really weird, but I don't. I
don't do it expecting anything. I just genuinely like to
help people. And the cool thing about Charlotte is being
here for thirty years, you you kind of get dialed
(21:06):
in and connected and a lot of times you can
just do a favor for someone and it's just to me,
it's fun. And and with this industry, being in the
entertainment industry and access to concerts, sporting events or whatever,
it's fun to help.
Speaker 1 (21:16):
People up pretty much.
Speaker 4 (21:17):
Yeah, And so it's amazing what comes out of that randomly.
And but it was It's it's not like I was like, oh,
I'm gonna do this, and you do this. It's just whatever.
Just be nice to be that's right.
Speaker 2 (21:30):
No, I mean it's what you in the radio show
with every single week.
Speaker 3 (21:33):
Yeah, treat others the way you want to be traded.
Speaker 2 (21:35):
There podcasts with you in the podcast with I'm sorry,
but yeah, do do it exactly and carry a smile
on your face.
Speaker 1 (21:41):
Right. You just don't know what people are going through.
So it's very true. It was very It was amazing.
Speaker 4 (21:45):
I saw once the Chick filated a training video and
it's it's really is eye opening, and they literally showed
people walking in and they had those little like comic
clouds over their heads and it was like, you know,
this person just had as a sick aunt, or this
person had a pet that passed away or whatever.
Speaker 1 (22:00):
So you never know what's affecting people, right.
Speaker 3 (22:02):
You know, I talk a lot about that. Everybody's dealing
with something, and I talk to my kids about it.
And if you if you walk around and you show
everybody grace, whether it's a smile on your face or whatever,
or they come across the wrong way, you have no
clue what they're dealing with. And that doesn't make them
a bad person. And maybe maybe your kindness can show
(22:24):
can change the whole trajectory of their even their life,
but most less their morning or their afternoon or their
day and uh, I don't know. Man, the world. You know,
as you get older, every day you live exponentially, you
realize the world is a tougher place the more tread
you have on your tires.
Speaker 1 (22:42):
Very true. So what stories Patrick talking about? Okay?
Speaker 4 (22:46):
So, so the beauty of this is I have been
mocked by my kids.
Speaker 1 (22:51):
I've been mocked by everybody. I have a theory. So
if you're you're you're tuning in and you're very good
with tech, Kelvin is mocking you down.
Speaker 4 (22:57):
Feel free to steal this and when it's on Shark Tank,
I'll be able to go back and say I gave
you the idea. So you know, it's funny how the
world works. Ironically, I got to go down to the
Masters with a good body of mine. Good doctor Dan
recently retired, one of the best geurologists in Charlotte and
also one of the best divers in the world behind
(23:18):
Greg lugainis back and I met him through a guy
that had called and asked for tickets to the Van's
warped tour, and I got them tickets. Next thing you know,
he said, hey, do you like golf? I said, I
love golf. He's like I'm going to take you to
the Masters. I was like, I gave you Van's Warp
Tour tickets and you're taking me the Masters. I was like,
no way, this happens. Six months later, I'm going to
limo down to the Masters. So it was fortunate enough
(23:40):
to go to Masters many years. And you know, when
you're there, there's a lot of standing around in golf,
and it's funny as a tall person sometimes you kind
of can get an idea of kind of what's going
on around you. And I saw this guy and he
had an NBC sports hat on, a little older, good
looking guy, and he wound up standing behind him, behind us,
and right on the first And this is right when
(24:01):
Tiger had just come back a couple of years ago.
And long story short, we picked up a conversation, started talking,
going back and forth.
Speaker 1 (24:07):
And here's my idea, here's my million dollar idea. Drum roll.
Speaker 4 (24:11):
I looked at his golf shirt and I said, ah,
I don't recognize that logo. Where's that PVCC. It's like
a Paradise Valley Country Club. I said, Paradise Valley Is
that in Scottsdale. He's like, yeah, there's like forty thousand
people at Augusta and I start a conversation with this guy.
So we start talking. He starts grilling me with all
these questions. He's like, oh, how was the tournament. I
(24:33):
was like, it was amazing. He's like, did you make
it to the sixteenth hole, which is the famous hole
that they build the eighteen thousand seat stadium around. I
said I did, and lucky and luckily enough for a friend.
It was a family business in town. They were able
to get tickets in the suite. And I said, it
was unbelievable.
Speaker 1 (24:48):
Was the most.
Speaker 4 (24:48):
Fascinating place I've been fortunate to go to a lot
of events over the course of my life. I said,
place is just unbelievable. You can't you can't even imagine it.
And so he's like, I'm so glad you had a
good time. He goes, I run the hole. I'm like, what,
run the whole? The dude literally runs the whole.
Speaker 3 (25:07):
I'm like, this weird stuff happens the craziest hole and
go yeah, Litera.
Speaker 4 (25:12):
He is like the Grand Pooba Dan Fox. Look him up.
He stands there. He's got his his uh thunderbird out
his tunic and all the beads, which is interesting too,
by the way, every year they get an extra bead
for their seniority. And he's like dangling down around his
knees or whatever, and he's like, I stopp putting beads
on ten years ago. But the nicest guy, Wisconsin guy,
(25:33):
and I'm going to tell you this, This line was unbelievable.
So we talk for I don't know, thirty forty five minutes,
and I'm like, okay, this is this is meant to be.
I'm not ever afraid to ask. We developed the little
report I said. I said, Dan, I'd love to get
your cell number. I'd love to keep in touch. He's like,
happy to do it, gives me a cell phone number,
but you got to you know, you can't have your phone,
so you got to like write it down a piece
(25:54):
of paper stuffed deep in my pocket. And then we
continued to talk, and then I had to go and
meet up with the body. Mean, the coolest line ever
because it wasn't arrogant, it was very genuine, but it
was so well delivered. Feel free to steal this one.
This is you can steal this one when you give
out a gift of that cool mountain golf course.
Speaker 1 (26:11):
He's offering. I'm telling you, he's definitely selling you. Yeah.
So here's the line.
Speaker 2 (26:20):
He goes into, let's take a break first, just kidding
the very excited.
Speaker 4 (26:25):
He goes into his wallet. He pulls out he's got
an RBC, a wealth management card. He gives me his card,
but he looks me in the eye and, like I said,
not arrogant Wisconsin, good heart of the heart of the country.
Speaker 1 (26:36):
Nice guy.
Speaker 4 (26:36):
He goes, If you think you had fun two months
ago at the waste management open, don't sleep on the
offer to come back as my guest. I'm like, what
is going on?
Speaker 1 (26:47):
Wow?
Speaker 3 (26:48):
And let me tell you I went back and it
was so when on that line a million dollar lines delivered,
you can't say no, no, no, And and once again,
as my wife's heard, sleep only off, don't sleep on
the offer to come back as my personal guest.
Speaker 1 (27:02):
So how was it? It is?
Speaker 4 (27:04):
It is unbelievable. So we went in twenty twenty four.
The weather was horrible, but that's okay because I got
to go back in twenty twenty five. So, but it
was incredible. We he literally took us down. We were
on the tea box. We walked throughout the whole stadium.
We met all sorts of people. But you're walking around
with this guy and it's fascinating because there's only fifty
five i think active Thunderbirds and some guys that have
(27:26):
kind of retired, so but everyone knows who they are.
So you you're walking with one of these guys, They're like,
he's with me. It's like the craziest thing ever. And
kind of like when you go out to all the clubs.
You know they let that rope.
Speaker 3 (27:36):
Yeah, they called me t Burr oh boy.
Speaker 4 (27:42):
So we went in and and I was unbelievable. And
then to fast forward, I work you mentioned Making Wish before.
I've had the honor of working on their development board
and I'm not like great at being like, hey, you know,
buy a table, or hey put your logo on this
and make this investment. But what I love to do
is come up with the most ridiculous live auction items,
(28:04):
things that are like what what can we do? So Dan,
I know they actually supported Make a Wish because they
had someone on Wednesday. It's called chaud of glory that
a Wish kid actually start off on Wednesday on the
par three where you know it was like Coach Saban
and Michael Phelps and Larry Fitzgerald, all these favorite guys,
famous guys trying to get a hole on one on
(28:24):
that whole of the firm money for charity. And first
kid was a wish kid. And so I said, I said,
after we're there in twenty twenty four, I said to Dan,
I said, Dan, I said, can you I'm on this
development board. I said, would you be willing to provide
the Dan Fox Experience for an auction item? And so
we were able to take the Dan Fox Experience, a
(28:45):
seven bedroom VRBO and a private jet and raise sixty
five thousand dollars.
Speaker 1 (28:50):
Goodness, it's pretty good. Rights.
Speaker 4 (28:54):
And then the funniest part was the guys that were
the high bidders were like, hey, you organized it.
Speaker 1 (29:00):
Why don't you come along? So that's why you got
to go.
Speaker 3 (29:04):
Yeah, that's awesome, that's slick that. I call that polish
in your diamond. I mean you only have that window
and time to ask for that. I mean you can't
get back home, and then you can't get a hold
of Dan and this and that, and and then at
the pinnacle of the perfect time to ask, so you
(29:26):
seem like You're pretty good at timing things.
Speaker 1 (29:28):
You know.
Speaker 4 (29:29):
I'm just a big, tall, goofy guy that smiles. Would
you like to go to Diamond Creek?
Speaker 1 (29:33):
I thought you'd never.
Speaker 3 (29:34):
Asked when I give you the invitation, I got to
work on my delivery.
Speaker 1 (29:39):
Don't sleep on that.
Speaker 3 (29:42):
Personal guess that I might have told somebody a time
or two not to sleep on me. I don't know
if it was so eloquently said.
Speaker 2 (29:51):
This might have been different circumstances.
Speaker 3 (29:55):
So uh, you said you? This is your second podcast, mister,
iHeart salesman of the of the century, the first time
being on it in the studio.
Speaker 4 (30:06):
But I've been in the studio a bunch, but they
never actually asked me to talk. Sometimes I'm too loud,
and they probably pretty much Yeah, no, I'm gonna This
is what we call cross promotion. So my best man
in my wedding, uh lives in the Charms City not
so Charming Baltimore. I love it, go ohs and him
(30:27):
and two of his buddies have a podcast called Raw Justice.
Let me tell you want some hardcore streets of Baltimore stories,
He's got.
Speaker 1 (30:37):
He's actually just a goofball layer.
Speaker 4 (30:40):
They don't let me get a hardcore. He is well,
his stories are there. They're they're hilarious guys, and it's funny.
There's three guys. One of them is Alex who's best man,
was best man in my wedding. One of them is
a guy named John Hammond who's also an attorney, but
he coached me growing up in like little league baseball
and basketball. He's it was. It was the oddest thing
he was. He was only like five or six years
(31:01):
younger or older. So when I was eight and whatever,
these guys were, you know, sixteen, seventeen years old. But yeah,
great guy friends. And then the last guy, Rob Hobeck,
who beck is he was a he was the was
the principal at Gilman, a private school up in Baltimore,
and his son.
Speaker 1 (31:19):
Was the third round pick of the l A. Dodgers.
Speaker 4 (31:22):
So if you see Peter Hubeck and the you know,
the Dodger blue here in a couple of years.
Speaker 1 (31:26):
Yeah, oh wow, cool. I never know, I never know
who you gonna come across.
Speaker 3 (31:29):
How can people look you up if in case they're
interested in some advertising?
Speaker 4 (31:33):
Absolutely, Jeff Naper and a p R like paper and ap.
Everyone's throwing the eye in there the extra p.
Speaker 3 (31:40):
Je I'm gonna tell you, I'm gonna tell you guilty
le I through the eye. That okay, that's why I say.
Speaker 4 (31:49):
Jeff, I heeart media, are you gonna come come take
a tour of our beautiful There's more than just this video.
Speaker 3 (31:58):
And Jeff, I love the way you treat people and
the way you do business. So I'm gonna end it
on that and say, go do the Golden rule today,
treat others the way you want to be treated, and
carry a smile around on your face. And and we're
blessed to be here at iHeart excited about what the
future holds. And thanks Jeff for being part of it.
Speaker 1 (32:18):
It was blass. Thanks Els.
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