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April 2, 2025 59 mins

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If you know me, you know I strongly believe that business systems = owner freedom.


That’s why it made sense to get today’s guest David Jenyns on the show.


David is the author of SYSTEMology: Create Time, Reduce Errors and Scale Your Profits with Proven Business Systems. It’s literally a system for building systems. 


I took this opportunity to ask David for his perspective on systemizing a blue-collar business in a predictable, repeatable way. We talk about the stages of business systemization (and how to know which one you’re in), how to prioritize which systems to build first and how to involve your team in the systemization of your business.


This conversation offers a great, high-level perspective on systemizing a contracting business.


Episode Highlights:


  • Get a breakdown of the “system for building systems” David Jenyns outlines in his book, SYSTEMology: Create Time, Reduce Errors and Scale Your Profits with Proven Business Systems.
  • Learn how to prioritize which systems you build, in what order.
  • Gain insights into how to involve your team in business systemization, including the idea of designating a “systems champion” to help with adoption and implementation.


00:00-Intro

02:04-What is a system?

02:47-The vast majority of businesses we look at are dramatically undersystemized. Why?

04:29-3 common excuses for not systemizing

07:42-Is being a good systemizer god given or learned?

12:57-What's more important: Vision or Systems?

17:24-4 stages of business systemization

25:03-How should business owners decide what systems to build first?

33:03-System Building

48:11-Fostering adoption

55:30-Unexpected Benefits/Pleasant Surprises

57:15-Where can people connect with you?



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