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Charlie Kirk and the Movement
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Us. Hi everyone, I'm David Chadwick and this is News
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Talk eleven, ten ninety nine three WBT. Welcome to the show.
In case you don't know, this is a faith in
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of the show. Without you, I could not do this
and I hope it helps someone today be a little
more faithful to the call they have from God upon
their lives. Well, one of my favorite guests that I
have regularly on the show is with me in studio today.
He is Mark Harris, one of our congressional representatives. Mark
the show several times. But here we are nine months in.
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What a joy to have you on the show today
with a reflection on these past nine months.
Speaker 2 (02:08):
Good morning, well, good morning, David. Is great to see
you this morning. It's always good to be with you,
and it was just great to reconnect with you. And
it has been a fascinating nine months and I know
you have just been a part of our journey to
get there to Washington and then when I got started,
and so I'm very excited to be back in the
studio with you today just talking about what has.
Speaker 1 (02:29):
Been like, well, nine months, here we are and would
you say, probably the most extraordinary nine months of your life.
A lot has happened.
Speaker 2 (02:37):
It has been. I mean, it's a whirlwind in so
many ways. And when I think about just the things
that we have done and the things that we've been
able to see happen, it's probably one of the most
historic opportunities in historic times to be a part of
the United States Congress.
Speaker 1 (02:54):
Well, let me claim a more recent headline that's been
in everybody's mind over the last couple of weeks, and
that's Charlie Kirk's assassination. It's just shocking that that happened.
Is there any more insight you have as a representative
on what happened?
Speaker 2 (03:11):
There?
Speaker 1 (03:11):
Was this alone wolf assassination? Could there have been a plot?
Your thoughts on that.
Speaker 2 (03:16):
Well, there's a whole lot of investigation that is continuing
to go into it. And Cash Patel, director of the FBI,
set across the table for me just a week ago
in a hearing that we had with the Judiciary Committee
there in Washington, and it is an ongoing investigation, so
obviously they don't get into any details, but you know
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it cause all the appearances that it was a lone
wolf acting out doing his thing, and what a tragedy
of gigantic proportion that we have felt as a nation
in that. And of course I know all of the
nation continues to ask questions, but it's amazing to see
what man meant for evil, how God has turned it
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for good.
Speaker 1 (04:00):
Mark that memorial service that was held in Arizona. I
mean that was two hundred million maybe who watched that
at some level or another in our nation. I mean,
that is remarkable. And to think what that could have
done in people's hearts to turn them toward the Lord
is just unbelievable to me.
Speaker 2 (04:20):
I don't know anything in my lifetime that I have
witnessed five hours of the Gospel being shared one after
the other, one after the other. And I told Vice
President Vance when I saw him earlier this week he
came to our area, and I told him, I said, honestly,
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when I stop and think about, out of all the
things that were shared, something you said struck with me
that you're a believer, you've been a believer for some time,
but that you've always been sensitive to talking about it
or sharing about it, but that you would talk more
about Jesus in the last two weeks than you would
talk your entire life. And I said that, I think
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just speaks to the boldness that God is bringing out
in people through this tragedy. I mean, what Charlie Kirk did,
what Charlie Kirk spoke for, what he stood for, has
been so incredible. And I think that the tragedy and
the proportion of the tragedy we have felt, has caused
people to reflect and stepped forward with a boldness of
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their faith in Christ that they've never never done before.
Speaker 1 (05:29):
Well, each person who spoke spoke powerfully, courageously and often
about Jesus, which which I was surprised at Marco Rubio.
President Trump got right to the line there, didn't he
He came very close, but he didn't quite cross the line.
But he was powerful himself. But the most moving moment
was when Erica Kerhle looked to heaven and said, I
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forgive you to the one who shot her husband, reflecting
Jesus on the Cross in Luke twenty four where he said, Father,
forgive them. They know what they're doing. What a moment.
Speaker 2 (06:02):
There is no question. Erica Kirk has demonstrated herself to
be obviously a woman of deep faith, a woman of
deep conviction, and a woman that is willing to step
up and use the talents and gifts that God has
poured into her which are incredible. And she is going
to carry forth this banner. And I am so thankful
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for her, And you're exactly right. She demonstrated the Gospel
not only in the things she said, but the ways
she handled herself and offering that forgiveness and tying it
back to Jesus on the Cross. Absolutely phenomenal.
Speaker 1 (06:38):
Well, let me plug next week's show. I've been able
to secure Sarah Hewitt to come in and be with me.
Sarah knew Charlie Kirk very well personally and knows the
president actually from tpusa's turning point USA involvement, and she's
going to share a lot about her own experiences with
Charlie and what has happened with the unleashing of TPUSA
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around the globe that they've had something like I don't know,
fifty plus thousand offers to come into middle schools, high schools,
and colleges and universities around the land. It could well
be that Charlie's death has unleashed an overwhelming power mark.
Speaker 2 (07:14):
And that's exactly what Eric has said when she spoke
the first time, she said to the killer, you have
no idea what you have unleashed. And just this week
I was at that event as I mentioned with the
Vice president, and had a group come up to me
and it was the turning point USA from UNC Charlotte,
and they wanted to take a picture and it was
just so honoring just to talk with them and just
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to see the enthusiasm in them.
Speaker 1 (07:40):
Well, I can't help but wonder as well that you're
going to have a number of young people. My son
Michael's thirty years old in ministry with me, and he
has just said, Dad, this has called something that happened
in the hearts of young people that could have never
been unleashed. Unless something like this has happened, people are
willing to be courageous and bold and say, thus saith
the Lord and speak fully his truth. Well, when we
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come back, let's talk about Arena Zruthka and what happened
here in Charlotte and what has been unleashed there as
well nationally and internationally. With Mark Harris as my guest today,
I'm David Chadwick. Will be right back. M Well, there's
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a truth that is in my heart and it is
you cannot kill the Holy Spirit. Do your worst and
he'll be raised from the Hi. Everyone, I'm David Chadwick
and this is News Talk eleven ten ninety ninety three WBT.
Welcome back to this show. Mark Harris, our congressional rep
from this area, is in studio with me. Mark Again,
it's great to have you with me. God bless you
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in your work and what you're doing. Nine months into it. Wow.
And Charlotte has been in the headlines the last you know,
six weeks to two months or so with the ridiculous
stabbing death of Urana Zurutska, this beautiful Ukrainian twenty four
year old woman who moved here to escape violence in
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the Ukraine, to have the life of hopefully peace and
love here in our states, only to be killed by
a deranged, mentally ill man, which is a whole other
subject we may touch on today as how in the
world did he get on the streets. But what happened
is it looked like to me, the federal government sees
that case and found it to be so horrific that
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they're now prosecuting it and even seeking the death penalty.
Talk about what that has done on Capitol Hill, how
that reflects upon our city locally.
Speaker 2 (11:03):
Please, Well, you know, it's fascinating, David, because I remember
I was actually on the radio, I guess with the
Bow and Beth on a Friday morning that I typically
do with them here on the station, and I guess
this event happened on a Thursday night, and I remember
hearing something about Mark Garrison was sharing in the news
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report about it. And this was all the way back
on August twenty second, and I remember talking about crime,
and at that particular time, all the attention was on Washington,
DC and what was happening there and how the President
had stepped in, and how we were seeing things change
in Washington, a number of arrest and illegal guns being seized,
and even missing children that were being rescued and all
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of these things. And we were talking about Washington. But again,
right here in Charlotte, you had this incident that occurred,
and not many people were talking about it across the nation,
and then it got the attention of the President and
it made its way up through social media. That horrific
video I think was the key when the police released.
Speaker 1 (12:09):
So callous, so thoughtless, godless.
Speaker 2 (12:13):
And you saw, I mean, she didn't have a fighting chance.
I mean there was nowhere to go, and it, I
mean came of nowhere. And the thing about it is
when that made its way to Washington and the President
picked up on it, and it just began to have
comments that were made, and it certainly got everybody's attention,
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and we realized that again, this is a microcosm of
a serious issue across our country, and that is crime
in our cities. And really and truly, I just believe
that it awakened again folks to see of the injustice.
And then as more details came out and we found
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out that this man had been arrested fourteen times, that
he had spent five years in prison cashless bail, that
he gets out without.
Speaker 1 (13:03):
Having to pay one penny of bail.
Speaker 2 (13:05):
Absolutely, and really, for somebody to have known all of
these arrests, for somebody to have known that he had
spent five years in prison for a violent crime, and
to then just simply put a note in front of
him and ask him to sign it and walk out,
promising that he's going to show up for another hearing
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is absolutely ludicrous. It's the reason that all of the
delegation or Republican delegation from North Carolina sent a letter
to the Chief Judge asking and demanding, quite frankly, that
this magistrate be removed because surely, to goodness, nobody looked
at this file or knew of this person's history and
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simply put them back out on the street.
Speaker 1 (13:49):
Well, they say it was mental illness. I remember days
when we had asylums where we would put people like
that in asylums to protect us from their anger and
their injustice against us. Again, I just can't believe that
we don't have a way to incarcerate people like that
to protect citizenry from this kind of violent behavior.
Speaker 2 (14:08):
Well, I think we have to because at the bottom line,
when we look at the realities, people like John Hinckley
who shot President Reagan, he was put away for.
Speaker 1 (14:17):
A long long time.
Speaker 2 (14:19):
And I think that we've got to get back to
realizing even my mental health is a part of it.
There's got to be a way that these folks are
incarcerated and that they are treated, but we cannot simply
let them roam on the streets.
Speaker 1 (14:32):
Well, you and I both are pastors, and I'm going
to go ahead and say this because I really believe this.
I believe there's a dark, invisible, godless world and there
are demonic forces that take people like this, especially those
using drugs and alcohol and other things like that. There's
evidence in the New Testament, in my opinion of this
whole word for alcohol or drunkenness is pharmaca, which means pharmacy,
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which I think opens the door to the demonic. I
can't help but think that's a part of it as well.
But still the citizenry needs to be protected.
Speaker 2 (15:03):
Well, they do, and there is a spiritual element of it,
and that's one of the things I've been thankful for
of the opportunity serving in Congress. I was on a
national radio program just a couple weeks ago and that
very issue came up, and they asked me from a
spiritual standpoint. He said, I don't know what your demonology
is and how you feel about it, And I said, look,
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I fully understand I've preached it for years that there
is demonic oppression and there is demonic possession. That are
real things, and we do open the door through so
many various avenues we can ornogor feed, got it?
Speaker 1 (15:38):
You know, even I think our anger can open ourselves
up to the demonic world which is angry all the
time against God and wants to destroy and kill and
steal from him everything that he has created.
Speaker 2 (15:50):
Oh, I agree one hundred percent. But I again, wherever
a person is when they are a danger to themselves
and they are a danger to this community, particularly and
particularly when they have a long litany of violent crime
in their background, I mean, these folks do not need
to be on the street.
Speaker 1 (16:10):
Well, tomorrow here in the local Charlotte area, there's going
to be something interesting that I'm not aware of, but
I've heard it for the first time. What is it?
Speaker 2 (16:18):
Well, I serve on the House Judiciary Committee. Jim Jordan
is the chairman of the House Judiciary Committee, and they
have certainly picked up, we have picked up on the
issue of crime and what happened to Irena, And they
have actually scheduled what's called a field hearing, So the
same thing as people see if you turn on c
SPAN and you watch a committee hearing that's happening there
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in Washington, except a filled hearing is a subcommittee or
a committee will actually go to a particular place and
will hold that hearing in that place. And so the
House Subcommittee on Oversight with the Judiciary Committee announced last
week that we would be coming to Charlotte North Care
and holding a hearing here to try to get more
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information and more facts. I mean, there's a lot of
questions that people have, I mean about what's happening with
crime in Charlotte. I think there's a lot of questions
about what's happened with the light rail. There's a lot
of issues that people could look at in this from
folks not having tickets that are on there and a
lack of enforcement of those kind of things and what
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can be done. And I think the federal government has
a great interest in this because there's been a lot
of federal money that has been put into this as well.
Speaker 1 (17:33):
When you think about it, so our president has sent
troops into Washington, d C. Where you spend a lot
of time right now, has it made a real difference
in your opinion with crime? Oh?
Speaker 2 (17:43):
I think there's no question. I mean, you look at
the more than two thousand arrests that took place. Again,
you're looking at one hundred and fifty to two hundred
illegal guns that were seized. I've told people all the time,
you would think that everybody, doesn't matter if you're a
Republican or a Democrat, would rejoice in those of things happening.
And then when you look at the fact that carjackings
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are down, even the mayor in Washington, d C. Who's
not been a huge fan of the federal government coming
in in this way, but she herself has admitted when
you look at it objectively, all of the crime rates
are down, and it's the work that's being done by
the National Guard and those that are simply coming alongside
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to help the Metropolitan Police Department of DC.
Speaker 1 (18:28):
And yet you have the mayor of Chicago and the
governor of Illinois, and you know the mayor of San
Francisco and other high crime areas where the President said
I'll send federal troops to you as well, and they've
all declined. Even here in Charlotte. I think recently our
Vice President said, we'll send you troops if you wanted.
Here in Charlotte to help abate crime, and our mayor
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said no, thank you. Why Mark, Why did they say
no thank you? It just doesn't make sense to me.
You would think they would all want their cities to
be safe, and this is something that would cross political boundaries.
Speaker 2 (18:59):
Well, I think the reason that they do it, sad
as it is, is pure politics. I think that honestly,
they recognize that President Trump has been a president that
ran on law and order and he is doing everything
he can to try to restore that in our country.
And I think that it's the politics of it that
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are causing these leaders to say, no, we've got everything
under control. Well, the reality is they don't have it
under control, or.
Speaker 1 (19:26):
The crime stats would go down.
Speaker 2 (19:27):
Absolutely, absolutely, And so I think the reality is the
politics is playing into it, which again American people lose.
But every time there's an opportunity for Americans to step in,
eighty percent eighty percent in the recent poll that came
out said that crime is a major issue in this country,
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So the American people know it is.
Speaker 1 (19:49):
So the bottom line is Democrats just don't want Republicans
to win. They don't want President Trump to win because
that then doesn't allow them to have power. Imagine that
says my guess. I'm David Chadwick. When we come back, Mark,
what are the top things you've dealt with over the
last nine months in Congress, We'll be right.
Speaker 3 (20:07):
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Speaker 1 (21:09):
We are all weary, we're on life's road together, but
we should all make sure we thank God for the
gifts that he has given to us. Win the five
A solid chit. Hi everyone, I'm David Chadwick and this
is News Talk eleven, ten ninety nine three WBT. Welcome
back to the show. And if you'd like to hear
this program with my friend and guest Mark Harris, our
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representative from this area in Congress, please go to WBT
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friend Mark.
Speaker 2 (21:44):
Mark.
Speaker 1 (21:45):
Nine months into your election, and I would love to
know what would be your number one issue that you
have had to deal with that maybe surprised you or
didn't surprise you, but has been probably at the time
top of your list. In Wow, I didn't really see
that coming.
Speaker 2 (22:04):
Wow, there are so many things, David. I've been sitting
here wrecking my brain in the break trying to think
of what would be the one thing. I will say,
the one thing that probably consumed six of the first
nine months that we've had had to be the work
that was ongoing constantly for the one big, beautiful bill
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that was such a cornerstone of the work that we
were doing in this first nine I understood once we
got elected we were being talked to about reconciliation and
what that was and why it was so important because
we were able to actually move legislation through and so
I was a big learning curve as you got into
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it and learning how all of this worked. But I
think the fascinating thing to me was finding the position
that you were going to take and then being consistent
in that position. And I think for us, or for
me particularly getting there to Washington, I realize that our
nation is in such a major, major crisis from our
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national debt standpoint, and our future is at stake in
so many ways, and we had to get for years,
not just in this election, but in any election I
ever ran in and all the way back to my
earliest days involved in this arena. That was a big
priority with me is getting our out of control spending
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in our government under control. And then when you get
there to Washington and you start seeing how these numbers
suddenly what used to be millions are now billions, and
then what used to be billions are now trillions. That
doesn't really register a whole lot with the average American.
And when you start talking, they're just numbers on a page,
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but there are more than numbers on a page. They
are so important when we think about the future of
our country and.
Speaker 1 (24:00):
You're saying it's not sustainable, that's exactly right.
Speaker 2 (24:03):
Thirty seven trillion dollars is not sustainable and continue to grow,
and so we are having to do things. So reconciliation
provided an opportunity, and it was the first time that
a Congress has actually passed a bill that actually cut
mandatory spending by one point six trillion dollars. And that
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was a major step. And I remember talking to my
colleagues and because the whole process that we were learning
is that we knew we needed to expand the tax cuts.
We knew that was important. The economy couldn't handle. It
didn't feel like if we were just to let all
those tax cuts be sunset and suddenly everybody's taxes across
the country would go up because the rates were going
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to go up. And so we knew we had to
pass the tax cuts, but we also knew that we
had to pay for those, and the way those were
to be paid for maintaining them was going to be
to cut the spending. And so getting to one point
six trillion dollars cut and spending to me with such
a time consuming process.
Speaker 1 (25:11):
Frankly, Well, I have a friend who's not conservative, he's
not liberal, he kind of in the middle, but his
concern about the big beautiful bill was the cuts to
Medicare Medicaid that would supposedly really hurt the poor and
the needy. I'm sure you had to wrestle with that
as a pastor, you know the biblical admonitions to care
for the poor. How did you reconcile that in your heart?
Speaker 2 (25:34):
Well, because when you really get into it, you realize
that there really weren't cuts quote unquote to Medicaid and
the poor. It was waste, fraud and abuse that we
were continuing to try to make sure we could clean
out and clean up. It was putting work requirements in.
That's the main thing that we did, and really the
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narrative became on the other side, you're making all these
cuts to Medicaid. Poor people aren't going to be able
to get medical The bottom line was, if you're able
bodied and you weren't willing to go to work, no,
you're not going to get Medicaid. But twenty hours a
week even volunteering. People didn't realize if you volunteer for
twenty hours a week at your church then and that counts,
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you didn't even have to get a job, but you
had to have twenty hours a.
Speaker 1 (26:21):
Week, you'd still get your medicaids, still get.
Speaker 2 (26:23):
Your Medicaid benefits. Eve the volunteering and stuff. So the
bottom line people said, well, so many people aren't going
to go through the trouble of filling out the paperwork,
and therefore a lot of people are going to be
dropped from the rolls. Well, I got news for you.
If I'm broke or I'm hungry, I'm going to go
through the trouble of filling out the paperwork if it
is sustainable to life for me. And that's what is
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so crazy about it. There's so many things that the
general public doesn't really know about what happened. And you've
got a mass media over here that sees the narrative
and they'll find one or two stories that really just
tug at your heart and it becomes a real challenge.
But the waste, fraud, and abuse was really at the
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heart of any changes we made to medicate.
Speaker 1 (27:10):
And I think it's also, isn't it trying to get
control of this administrative state, which is almost like a
fourth branch of our government that was never intended by
our founding fathers. The literally thousands upon thousands of administrative
workers who are getting salaries that just aren't necessary, and
they're controlling things that they shouldn't control.
Speaker 2 (27:30):
Well, and listen, that's another whole story, because right now
we're dealing with the cr that we passed in the House,
because we're coming up on a big deadline on Tuesday
night of this week on September thirtieth, and the House
we passed a continuing resolution to get to November twenty first,
and the Democrats are not interested in doing that because
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they're asking that we restore a lot of this spending. Well,
one of the things that just hit on. I guess
it was Wednesday night of this week. Is the Office
of Management and Budget, which our mutual friend Dan Bishop
is a deputy director of that, and RUSS Vote as
a director. They just put out a statement yesterday that
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told the agencies that they need to prepare for a
mass reduction in personnel and many of them won't come back.
So I personally think that Chuck Schumer will think twice
before he chooses to shut the government down and puts
the decision on all of these agency personnel in the
hands of RUSS Vote.
Speaker 1 (28:34):
And you guys in the House have been told don't
come back until early October. Is that what I understand?
Speaker 2 (28:40):
And we're right now. We are only on alert if
the government chooses to be shut down. Because we did
what we were called to do, and we passed the
resolution last Friday, the Continuing Resolution, sent it over to
the Senate. They voted it down. Now, let me be
clear when I say they voted it down. The American
people need to understand we have fifty three Republicans and
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forty seven Democrats in the US Senate, and you say, well,
why is this a problem, Because it takes sixty votes
to stop a filibuster, which means that seven Democrats will
have to join the fifty three Republicans in the Senate
to pass the same resolution that we just passed in
the House that continues to fund the government, and Chuck
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Schumer is basically saying, no deal, We're not going to
do this, and therefore we're going to shut the government down.
This will be Schumer shut down if he chooses to
not pass the resolution.
Speaker 1 (29:36):
Do you think the people will see that, Will they
see that this really is on him?
Speaker 2 (29:40):
Oh? I don't see any way around it, because again
you have Republicans that are saying, we want to fund
the government. Listen, the only reason the Democrats don't want
to fund the government is what you said in a
prior segment. They don't want President Trump to continue winning.
He has had such success in this administration, and he
from day one, we saw things. I think I talked
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to you just a few weeks into it, and it
was a whirlwind the things that he was getting done
one after the other. And we're seeing that this administration
is being productive, and he's being out there and he's
speaking to the media, and he's being very transparent about
all these things that he's involved with around the world,
the wars.
Speaker 1 (30:22):
That he's bringing, So we haven't talked about that yet.
We have to address that, yeah as well. Maybe in
the next time we at least touch on that, because
that is another issue that is in our faces, the
number of wars that are out there real quickly, the
tariffs and the finances. You're supportive of them.
Speaker 2 (30:38):
I am where we are right now. The President is
still seeing negotiating that's taking place. It was an incredible
deal that happened with Europe, and again, these deals are
coming out one at a time, and that's what we've
got to understand. You've got Scott Bessant, our Treasury secretary,
and the team that's working with him from commerce and
others that are working with these countries one at a
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time really to get these deals. Europe of course had
that mass win because they were all linked together. But
right now, look, there's some pain that's involved, but I
also believe that overall we're seeing some wins. For the
first time, we have a president that has taken this
trade issue very very seriously, and he's just trying to
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even the playing field and overall, long term, this is
the play. I think that we've had to make.
Speaker 1 (31:29):
It feels like it's as simple as pay your fair share. Correct,
And this is the only weapon he has to get
other countries to pay their fair share of the different
economic tariffs that are out there. That's my simple opinion.
Speaker 2 (31:41):
And he's using that economic power to bring peace. I mean,
you think about it, he's using the economic power for
the United States for the first time in a long
time to really negotiate peace with other leaders in the world.
Speaker 1 (31:54):
That voice is Mark Harris. I'm David Chadwick. Let's come
back and talk a little bit about the wars around
the world and anything else Mark, you want to talk
about nine months into your government oversight, We'll be right back.
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Thousand stories of.
Speaker 3 (33:10):
Say thank you.
Speaker 1 (33:13):
Goodah, the tender whisper, the ded and.
Speaker 2 (33:25):
Me that you're pleased and let up, never alone.
Speaker 1 (33:34):
You're a good good father. Well where else can we
go in our faith except to believe that God is
a good good father. He's in control even when things
seem chaotic, and we can't trust him to how everyone.
I'm David Chadwick and this is News Talk eleven, ten
ninety nine to three WBT. Welcome back to the show.
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My friend and Representative of the Charlotte Aaria, Mark Harris,
and our Congress is with me today, MARKA pass as well.
We have that heartbeat that we share together, MARKA. I've
been a ministry now forty five years and you have
been how long thirty six thirty six? This has been
a great ride. I tell people all the time, it's
the greatest calling possible. Mark. Let's just talk about a
few things going to rapid fire you, because this is
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our last segment. We don't have a whole lot more time.
But let's just get to these things. The wars and
rumors of wars that Jesus predicted, they're all around us
and proliferating. Who would have thought that we had a
threat from Venezuela regarding a potential war between Venezuela and America.
You have the same thing with China and the Philippines
now out there, and North and South Korea and other
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places all around the world. War is really a real
issue you guys have to deal with regularly. We do,
and we see what's happening around the world. And I
think that we find ourselves at a unique place because
we have a president and President Trump that has demonstrated
real leadership in the world that we haven't seen.
Speaker 2 (34:59):
In a while. And I think that that is making
quite an impression. And again his fact that he is
going to be a president that is initiating law and
order in our country. One of the things with the
immigration issue, one of the things that he was really
very adamant about is we were going to stop the
flow of drugs fentanel into our country that were killing
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our young people.
Speaker 1 (35:21):
And that's the Venezuela issue, with bombing boats and.
Speaker 2 (35:24):
All of that. Absolutely, and I mean, when you take
the steps that he's willing to take, I think it
sends a message around the world that again, he says
what he means, and he means what he says, and
he's not afraid to take action on that.
Speaker 1 (35:38):
And he speaks to Western European powers about the Islamization
of their countries. He says, you've got to stop this,
the free speech issues in those countries, You've got to
stop this. At the UN this past week, he speaks
to the whole world and basically calls them to task
for their inefficiency and their ineffectiveness.
Speaker 2 (35:55):
Oh and absolutely recognizing what's happening in Israel. You know,
I just had an opportunity the first of August to
be there in Israel and to see all of the
devastation that goes back to October seventh. That's hard to
believe that we're coming up on yet another anniversary next month.
Speaker 1 (36:12):
Three years it happened. Three years, It's hard to believe.
Speaker 2 (36:15):
It is hard.
Speaker 1 (36:15):
And Hamas invaded Israel. What nation in the world cannot
defend itself when they have another terrorist organization power that
invades their borders and it takes hostages as well.
Speaker 2 (36:26):
Exactly, And those hostages are still there, I mean some
twenty of them that they are still alive, I know.
Speaker 1 (36:34):
But still even the Hamas is cleaning to those hostages
because that's their only power, that's their only leverage.
Speaker 2 (36:39):
That's right. And then you've got some of these Western
European countries that are suddenly setting up and recognizing Palestine.
And again, President Trump, he's not putting up with this.
He's making it very clear that you guys are making
a serious error here. And I think that we've got
to really come to understand that what he is bringing
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is leadership. And when you bring leadership, there are going
to be those that are going to test the limits
that are going to test do you really have the
resolve to stand up? But I think that I am
seeing at least that when you really watch it play out,
that our friends and our allies are recognizing they have
a true friend and a true ally in the United States,
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and our enemies are quickly understanding that they've got to
be We're going to be serious about how we deal
with this.
Speaker 1 (37:28):
Supposedly in the next few days, eighty nine percent of
the United Nations countries are going to demand a Palestinian
state to Israel. Crazy to me, Mark, It's not going
to work the way those boundaries are drawn. Little Israel
is going to be surrounded by enemies. They want the
complete eradication of Israel from the face of this earth.
Israel will has a right to defend itself. That Yahu says.
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We lived in Germany where we couldn't defend ourselves. Six
million as of us died. We can defend ourselves right now.
We will defend ourselves. I don't know what else you
can do except be a supporter of Israel. Hamas invaded them,
took hostages. They must be able to respond midterm elections.
Speaker 2 (38:04):
Yes, sir, well and by the way, and I do
believe you're going to see Israel continue to finish that
war and they're going to get it finished, and they're
going to finish with Hamas and that's no other option.
They have no other option. We've already seen what a
two state solution looks like. And the two state solution
was twenty years of stress with Gaza and Hamas in
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their leadership there, and we saw what happened when they
came across that border and took the hostages and murdered
and butchered all of that.
Speaker 1 (38:33):
And you on a Palestinian state, we're seventy five percent
of the elected officials were Hamas representatives in Gaza. That's
going to continue. So you're asking Israel to be surrounded
by Hamas terrorists. It makes no sense whatsoever.
Speaker 2 (38:46):
None, whatsoever. Yes, about the midterms, The midterms are going
to be extremely, extremely important, probably the most important midterms
that we've had. I know that phrase gets overused sometimes
and people say, oh, you always say this is the
most important election of our lifetime. Well, the reality is
these midterms are going to be extremely important because of
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the work that President Trump has already got underway and
that would be brought to a screeching halt in many
ways if we're not successful in these midterms, because listen,
we have a very narrow margin in the US House
of Representatives. We have a fairly narrow margin although a
little stronger actually when you think about it, in the
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US Senate fifty three.
Speaker 1 (39:30):
So you have a couple of Republicans quote unquote, who
are you know, more rhino issue.
Speaker 2 (39:36):
If you will, yes, exactly. So I'm glad you said that.
And so the reality is that when you if we don't,
if we're not successful in these midterms, the left will
do everything they can to stemy the progress that President
Trump has done. We've already seen it. We saw it
in his first term that when things did not go
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well at the midterm, then he ended up being impeached.
And that becomes the mantra of the left. That's all
they've got. We've seen in this time that they have
they don't have a clear leader at all, they don't
really have any winning issues at all.
Speaker 1 (40:14):
And most of them are extreme left. On the ones
they do cling to.
Speaker 2 (40:18):
They are and the rhetoric, the rhetoric is so dangerous.
I mean, we're seeing people being shot and killed. And
that happens when people keep calling folks fascist, calling folks
you disagree with Nazis, all of these things, you just
open the door.
Speaker 1 (40:33):
And nor did we even talk about we don't have
time today, but just the number of killings that have
been motivated by some person associated with the trans world. Absolutely,
and Mark I just again, I think that's mental illness.
I think that's demonic as well, and we've got to
address it. You cannot take a scalpel of anesthetics and
think you can change what God designed male and female.
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So do you think that the midterms will be successful
for the Republicans or do you think they really could changeover?
Speaker 2 (41:01):
I feel like that they very well can be if
we can keep folks engaged, if we can help people
understand in some ways. Let's be honest, it's going to
be a mandate on the Trump presidency. It's going to
be an opportunity for the president. He's going to be
a North Carolina a lot. We have a US Senate
race that's going to be major and we need to
hold this seat in North Carolina, and so he's going
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to be here a lot. I just believe that we
can be successful but I think we've just got to
keep moving forward.
Speaker 1 (41:30):
Mark Harris, thank you for being with me today. One
Timothy two to two reminds us to pray for those
who are in authority over us. In Jesus' name, I
pray for you, Mark, that He give you wisdom, oversight,
and counsel in order to make the right decisions, to
be friends with the right people, to influence them to
make the right decisions so that our nation can still
be prosperous for the glory of God. Thank you for
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being with me today.
Speaker 2 (41:53):
David. Thank you, You're a great friend and it's always
great to be with you.
Speaker 1 (41:56):
I'm David Chadwick. This is News Talk eleven ten ninety
nine three WBT. Just do this for me, everyone, would
you love God and love your neighbor. Do those two
things and you have a lifetime's worth of work to do.
I look forward to talking with you all with Sarah
Hewittt next week.
Us. Hi everyone, I'm David Chadwick and this is News
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Talk eleven, ten ninety nine three WBT. Welcome to the show.
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of the show. Without you, I could not do this
and I hope it helps someone today be a little
more faithful to the call they have from God upon
their lives. Well, one of my favorite guests that I
have regularly on the show is with me in studio today.
He is Mark Harris, one of our congressional representatives. Mark
the show several times. But here we are nine months in.
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What a joy to have you on the show today
with a reflection on these past nine months.
Speaker 2 (02:08):
Good morning, well, good morning, David. Is great to see
you this morning. It's always good to be with you,
and it was just great to reconnect with you. And
it has been a fascinating nine months and I know
you have just been a part of our journey to
get there to Washington and then when I got started,
and so I'm very excited to be back in the
studio with you today just talking about what has.
Speaker 1 (02:29):
Been like, well, nine months, here we are and would
you say, probably the most extraordinary nine months of your life.
A lot has happened.
Speaker 2 (02:37):
It has been. I mean, it's a whirlwind in so
many ways. And when I think about just the things
that we have done and the things that we've been
able to see happen, it's probably one of the most
historic opportunities in historic times to be a part of
the United States Congress.
Speaker 1 (02:54):
Well, let me claim a more recent headline that's been
in everybody's mind over the last couple of weeks, and
that's Charlie Kirk's assassination. It's just shocking that that happened.
Is there any more insight you have as a representative
on what happened?
Speaker 2 (03:11):
There?
Speaker 1 (03:11):
Was this alone wolf assassination? Could there have been a plot?
Your thoughts on that.
Speaker 2 (03:16):
Well, there's a whole lot of investigation that is continuing
to go into it. And Cash Patel, director of the FBI,
set across the table for me just a week ago
in a hearing that we had with the Judiciary Committee
there in Washington, and it is an ongoing investigation, so
obviously they don't get into any details, but you know
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it cause all the appearances that it was a lone
wolf acting out doing his thing, and what a tragedy
of gigantic proportion that we have felt as a nation
in that. And of course I know all of the
nation continues to ask questions, but it's amazing to see
what man meant for evil, how God has turned it
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for good.
Speaker 1 (04:00):
Mark that memorial service that was held in Arizona. I
mean that was two hundred million maybe who watched that
at some level or another in our nation. I mean,
that is remarkable. And to think what that could have
done in people's hearts to turn them toward the Lord
is just unbelievable to me.
Speaker 2 (04:20):
I don't know anything in my lifetime that I have
witnessed five hours of the Gospel being shared one after
the other, one after the other. And I told Vice
President Vance when I saw him earlier this week he
came to our area, and I told him, I said, honestly,
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when I stop and think about, out of all the
things that were shared, something you said struck with me
that you're a believer, you've been a believer for some time,
but that you've always been sensitive to talking about it
or sharing about it, but that you would talk more
about Jesus in the last two weeks than you would
talk your entire life. And I said that, I think
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just speaks to the boldness that God is bringing out
in people through this tragedy. I mean, what Charlie Kirk did,
what Charlie Kirk spoke for, what he stood for, has
been so incredible. And I think that the tragedy and
the proportion of the tragedy we have felt, has caused
people to reflect and stepped forward with a boldness of
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their faith in Christ that they've never never done before.
Speaker 1 (05:29):
Well, each person who spoke spoke powerfully, courageously and often
about Jesus, which which I was surprised at Marco Rubio.
President Trump got right to the line there, didn't he
He came very close, but he didn't quite cross the line.
But he was powerful himself. But the most moving moment
was when Erica Kerhle looked to heaven and said, I
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forgive you to the one who shot her husband, reflecting
Jesus on the Cross in Luke twenty four where he said, Father,
forgive them. They know what they're doing. What a moment.
Speaker 2 (06:02):
There is no question. Erica Kirk has demonstrated herself to
be obviously a woman of deep faith, a woman of
deep conviction, and a woman that is willing to step
up and use the talents and gifts that God has
poured into her which are incredible. And she is going
to carry forth this banner. And I am so thankful
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for her, And you're exactly right. She demonstrated the Gospel
not only in the things she said, but the ways
she handled herself and offering that forgiveness and tying it
back to Jesus on the Cross. Absolutely phenomenal.
Speaker 1 (06:38):
Well, let me plug next week's show. I've been able
to secure Sarah Hewitt to come in and be with me.
Sarah knew Charlie Kirk very well personally and knows the
president actually from tpusa's turning point USA involvement, and she's
going to share a lot about her own experiences with
Charlie and what has happened with the unleashing of TPUSA
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around the globe that they've had something like I don't know,
fifty plus thousand offers to come into middle schools, high schools,
and colleges and universities around the land. It could well
be that Charlie's death has unleashed an overwhelming power mark.
Speaker 2 (07:14):
And that's exactly what Eric has said when she spoke
the first time, she said to the killer, you have
no idea what you have unleashed. And just this week
I was at that event as I mentioned with the
Vice president, and had a group come up to me
and it was the turning point USA from UNC Charlotte,
and they wanted to take a picture and it was
just so honoring just to talk with them and just
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to see the enthusiasm in them.
Speaker 1 (07:40):
Well, I can't help but wonder as well that you're
going to have a number of young people. My son
Michael's thirty years old in ministry with me, and he
has just said, Dad, this has called something that happened
in the hearts of young people that could have never
been unleashed. Unless something like this has happened, people are
willing to be courageous and bold and say, thus saith
the Lord and speak fully his truth. Well, when we
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come back, let's talk about Arena Zruthka and what happened
here in Charlotte and what has been unleashed there as
well nationally and internationally. With Mark Harris as my guest today,
I'm David Chadwick. Will be right back. M Well, there's
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a truth that is in my heart and it is
you cannot kill the Holy Spirit. Do your worst and
he'll be raised from the Hi. Everyone, I'm David Chadwick
and this is News Talk eleven ten ninety ninety three WBT.
Welcome back to this show. Mark Harris, our congressional rep
from this area, is in studio with me. Mark Again,
it's great to have you with me. God bless you
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in your work and what you're doing. Nine months into it. Wow.
And Charlotte has been in the headlines the last you know,
six weeks to two months or so with the ridiculous
stabbing death of Urana Zurutska, this beautiful Ukrainian twenty four
year old woman who moved here to escape violence in
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the Ukraine, to have the life of hopefully peace and
love here in our states, only to be killed by
a deranged, mentally ill man, which is a whole other
subject we may touch on today as how in the
world did he get on the streets. But what happened
is it looked like to me, the federal government sees
that case and found it to be so horrific that
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they're now prosecuting it and even seeking the death penalty.
Talk about what that has done on Capitol Hill, how
that reflects upon our city locally.
Speaker 2 (11:03):
Please, Well, you know, it's fascinating, David, because I remember
I was actually on the radio, I guess with the
Bow and Beth on a Friday morning that I typically
do with them here on the station, and I guess
this event happened on a Thursday night, and I remember
hearing something about Mark Garrison was sharing in the news
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report about it. And this was all the way back
on August twenty second, and I remember talking about crime,
and at that particular time, all the attention was on Washington,
DC and what was happening there and how the President
had stepped in, and how we were seeing things change
in Washington, a number of arrest and illegal guns being seized,
and even missing children that were being rescued and all
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of these things. And we were talking about Washington. But again,
right here in Charlotte, you had this incident that occurred,
and not many people were talking about it across the nation,
and then it got the attention of the President and
it made its way up through social media. That horrific
video I think was the key when the police released.
Speaker 1 (12:09):
So callous, so thoughtless, godless.
Speaker 2 (12:13):
And you saw, I mean, she didn't have a fighting chance.
I mean there was nowhere to go, and it, I
mean came of nowhere. And the thing about it is
when that made its way to Washington and the President
picked up on it, and it just began to have
comments that were made, and it certainly got everybody's attention,
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and we realized that again, this is a microcosm of
a serious issue across our country, and that is crime
in our cities. And really and truly, I just believe
that it awakened again folks to see of the injustice.
And then as more details came out and we found
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out that this man had been arrested fourteen times, that
he had spent five years in prison cashless bail, that
he gets out without.
Speaker 1 (13:03):
Having to pay one penny of bail.
Speaker 2 (13:05):
Absolutely, and really, for somebody to have known all of
these arrests, for somebody to have known that he had
spent five years in prison for a violent crime, and
to then just simply put a note in front of
him and ask him to sign it and walk out,
promising that he's going to show up for another hearing
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is absolutely ludicrous. It's the reason that all of the
delegation or Republican delegation from North Carolina sent a letter
to the Chief Judge asking and demanding, quite frankly, that
this magistrate be removed because surely, to goodness, nobody looked
at this file or knew of this person's history and
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simply put them back out on the street.
Speaker 1 (13:49):
Well, they say it was mental illness. I remember days
when we had asylums where we would put people like
that in asylums to protect us from their anger and
their injustice against us. Again, I just can't believe that
we don't have a way to incarcerate people like that
to protect citizenry from this kind of violent behavior.
Speaker 2 (14:08):
Well, I think we have to because at the bottom line,
when we look at the realities, people like John Hinckley
who shot President Reagan, he was put away for.
Speaker 1 (14:17):
A long long time.
Speaker 2 (14:19):
And I think that we've got to get back to
realizing even my mental health is a part of it.
There's got to be a way that these folks are
incarcerated and that they are treated, but we cannot simply
let them roam on the streets.
Speaker 1 (14:32):
Well, you and I both are pastors, and I'm going
to go ahead and say this because I really believe this.
I believe there's a dark, invisible, godless world and there
are demonic forces that take people like this, especially those
using drugs and alcohol and other things like that. There's
evidence in the New Testament, in my opinion of this
whole word for alcohol or drunkenness is pharmaca, which means pharmacy,
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which I think opens the door to the demonic. I
can't help but think that's a part of it as well.
But still the citizenry needs to be protected.
Speaker 2 (15:03):
Well, they do, and there is a spiritual element of it,
and that's one of the things I've been thankful for
of the opportunity serving in Congress. I was on a
national radio program just a couple weeks ago and that
very issue came up, and they asked me from a
spiritual standpoint. He said, I don't know what your demonology
is and how you feel about it, And I said, look,
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I fully understand I've preached it for years that there
is demonic oppression and there is demonic possession. That are
real things, and we do open the door through so
many various avenues we can ornogor feed, got it?
Speaker 1 (15:38):
You know, even I think our anger can open ourselves
up to the demonic world which is angry all the
time against God and wants to destroy and kill and
steal from him everything that he has created.
Speaker 2 (15:50):
Oh, I agree one hundred percent. But I again, wherever
a person is when they are a danger to themselves
and they are a danger to this community, particularly and
particularly when they have a long litany of violent crime
in their background, I mean, these folks do not need
to be on the street.
Speaker 1 (16:10):
Well, tomorrow here in the local Charlotte area, there's going
to be something interesting that I'm not aware of, but
I've heard it for the first time. What is it?
Speaker 2 (16:18):
Well, I serve on the House Judiciary Committee. Jim Jordan
is the chairman of the House Judiciary Committee, and they
have certainly picked up, we have picked up on the
issue of crime and what happened to Irena, And they
have actually scheduled what's called a field hearing, So the
same thing as people see if you turn on c
SPAN and you watch a committee hearing that's happening there
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in Washington, except a filled hearing is a subcommittee or
a committee will actually go to a particular place and
will hold that hearing in that place. And so the
House Subcommittee on Oversight with the Judiciary Committee announced last
week that we would be coming to Charlotte North Care
and holding a hearing here to try to get more
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information and more facts. I mean, there's a lot of
questions that people have, I mean about what's happening with
crime in Charlotte. I think there's a lot of questions
about what's happened with the light rail. There's a lot
of issues that people could look at in this from
folks not having tickets that are on there and a
lack of enforcement of those kind of things and what
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can be done. And I think the federal government has
a great interest in this because there's been a lot
of federal money that has been put into this as well.
Speaker 1 (17:33):
When you think about it, so our president has sent
troops into Washington, d C. Where you spend a lot
of time right now, has it made a real difference
in your opinion with crime? Oh?
Speaker 2 (17:43):
I think there's no question. I mean, you look at
the more than two thousand arrests that took place. Again,
you're looking at one hundred and fifty to two hundred
illegal guns that were seized. I've told people all the time,
you would think that everybody, doesn't matter if you're a
Republican or a Democrat, would rejoice in those of things happening.
And then when you look at the fact that carjackings
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are down, even the mayor in Washington, d C. Who's
not been a huge fan of the federal government coming
in in this way, but she herself has admitted when
you look at it objectively, all of the crime rates
are down, and it's the work that's being done by
the National Guard and those that are simply coming alongside
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to help the Metropolitan Police Department of DC.
Speaker 1 (18:28):
And yet you have the mayor of Chicago and the
governor of Illinois, and you know the mayor of San
Francisco and other high crime areas where the President said
I'll send federal troops to you as well, and they've
all declined. Even here in Charlotte. I think recently our
Vice President said, we'll send you troops if you wanted.
Here in Charlotte to help abate crime, and our mayor
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said no, thank you. Why Mark, Why did they say
no thank you? It just doesn't make sense to me.
You would think they would all want their cities to
be safe, and this is something that would cross political boundaries.
Speaker 2 (18:59):
Well, I think the reason that they do it, sad
as it is, is pure politics. I think that honestly,
they recognize that President Trump has been a president that
ran on law and order and he is doing everything
he can to try to restore that in our country.
And I think that it's the politics of it that
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are causing these leaders to say, no, we've got everything
under control. Well, the reality is they don't have it
under control, or.
Speaker 1 (19:26):
The crime stats would go down.
Speaker 2 (19:27):
Absolutely, absolutely, And so I think the reality is the
politics is playing into it, which again American people lose.
But every time there's an opportunity for Americans to step in,
eighty percent eighty percent in the recent poll that came
out said that crime is a major issue in this country,
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So the American people know it is.
Speaker 1 (19:49):
So the bottom line is Democrats just don't want Republicans
to win. They don't want President Trump to win because
that then doesn't allow them to have power. Imagine that
says my guess. I'm David Chadwick. When we come back, Mark,
what are the top things you've dealt with over the
last nine months in Congress, We'll be right.
Speaker 3 (20:07):
Back wanting no place too high, discreaming sodada.
Speaker 1 (21:09):
We are all weary, we're on life's road together, but
we should all make sure we thank God for the
gifts that he has given to us. Win the five
A solid chit. Hi everyone, I'm David Chadwick and this
is News Talk eleven, ten ninety nine three WBT. Welcome
back to the show. And if you'd like to hear
this program with my friend and guest Mark Harris, our
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friend Mark.
Speaker 2 (21:44):
Mark.
Speaker 1 (21:45):
Nine months into your election, and I would love to
know what would be your number one issue that you
have had to deal with that maybe surprised you or
didn't surprise you, but has been probably at the time
top of your list. In Wow, I didn't really see
that coming.
Speaker 2 (22:04):
Wow, there are so many things, David. I've been sitting
here wrecking my brain in the break trying to think
of what would be the one thing. I will say,
the one thing that probably consumed six of the first
nine months that we've had had to be the work
that was ongoing constantly for the one big, beautiful bill
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that was such a cornerstone of the work that we
were doing in this first nine I understood once we
got elected we were being talked to about reconciliation and
what that was and why it was so important because
we were able to actually move legislation through and so
I was a big learning curve as you got into
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it and learning how all of this worked. But I
think the fascinating thing to me was finding the position
that you were going to take and then being consistent
in that position. And I think for us, or for
me particularly getting there to Washington, I realize that our
nation is in such a major, major crisis from our
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national debt standpoint, and our future is at stake in
so many ways, and we had to get for years,
not just in this election, but in any election I
ever ran in and all the way back to my
earliest days involved in this arena. That was a big
priority with me is getting our out of control spending
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in our government under control. And then when you get
there to Washington and you start seeing how these numbers
suddenly what used to be millions are now billions, and
then what used to be billions are now trillions. That
doesn't really register a whole lot with the average American.
And when you start talking, they're just numbers on a page,
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but there are more than numbers on a page. They
are so important when we think about the future of
our country and.
Speaker 1 (24:00):
You're saying it's not sustainable, that's exactly right.
Speaker 2 (24:03):
Thirty seven trillion dollars is not sustainable and continue to grow,
and so we are having to do things. So reconciliation
provided an opportunity, and it was the first time that
a Congress has actually passed a bill that actually cut
mandatory spending by one point six trillion dollars. And that
(24:26):
was a major step. And I remember talking to my
colleagues and because the whole process that we were learning
is that we knew we needed to expand the tax cuts.
We knew that was important. The economy couldn't handle. It
didn't feel like if we were just to let all
those tax cuts be sunset and suddenly everybody's taxes across
the country would go up because the rates were going
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to go up. And so we knew we had to
pass the tax cuts, but we also knew that we
had to pay for those, and the way those were
to be paid for maintaining them was going to be
to cut the spending. And so getting to one point
six trillion dollars cut and spending to me with such
a time consuming process.
Speaker 1 (25:11):
Frankly, Well, I have a friend who's not conservative, he's
not liberal, he kind of in the middle, but his
concern about the big beautiful bill was the cuts to
Medicare Medicaid that would supposedly really hurt the poor and
the needy. I'm sure you had to wrestle with that
as a pastor, you know the biblical admonitions to care
for the poor. How did you reconcile that in your heart?
Speaker 2 (25:34):
Well, because when you really get into it, you realize
that there really weren't cuts quote unquote to Medicaid and
the poor. It was waste, fraud and abuse that we
were continuing to try to make sure we could clean
out and clean up. It was putting work requirements in.
That's the main thing that we did, and really the
(25:54):
narrative became on the other side, you're making all these
cuts to Medicaid. Poor people aren't going to be able
to get medical The bottom line was, if you're able
bodied and you weren't willing to go to work, no,
you're not going to get Medicaid. But twenty hours a
week even volunteering. People didn't realize if you volunteer for
twenty hours a week at your church then and that counts,
(26:18):
you didn't even have to get a job, but you
had to have twenty hours a.
Speaker 1 (26:21):
Week, you'd still get your medicaids, still get.
Speaker 2 (26:23):
Your Medicaid benefits. Eve the volunteering and stuff. So the
bottom line people said, well, so many people aren't going
to go through the trouble of filling out the paperwork,
and therefore a lot of people are going to be
dropped from the rolls. Well, I got news for you.
If I'm broke or I'm hungry, I'm going to go
through the trouble of filling out the paperwork if it
is sustainable to life for me. And that's what is
(26:46):
so crazy about it. There's so many things that the
general public doesn't really know about what happened. And you've
got a mass media over here that sees the narrative
and they'll find one or two stories that really just
tug at your heart and it becomes a real challenge.
But the waste, fraud, and abuse was really at the
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heart of any changes we made to medicate.
Speaker 1 (27:10):
And I think it's also, isn't it trying to get
control of this administrative state, which is almost like a
fourth branch of our government that was never intended by
our founding fathers. The literally thousands upon thousands of administrative
workers who are getting salaries that just aren't necessary, and
they're controlling things that they shouldn't control.
Speaker 2 (27:30):
Well, and listen, that's another whole story, because right now
we're dealing with the cr that we passed in the House,
because we're coming up on a big deadline on Tuesday
night of this week on September thirtieth, and the House
we passed a continuing resolution to get to November twenty first,
and the Democrats are not interested in doing that because
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they're asking that we restore a lot of this spending. Well,
one of the things that just hit on. I guess
it was Wednesday night of this week. Is the Office
of Management and Budget, which our mutual friend Dan Bishop
is a deputy director of that, and RUSS Vote as
a director. They just put out a statement yesterday that
(28:13):
told the agencies that they need to prepare for a
mass reduction in personnel and many of them won't come back.
So I personally think that Chuck Schumer will think twice
before he chooses to shut the government down and puts
the decision on all of these agency personnel in the
hands of RUSS Vote.
Speaker 1 (28:34):
And you guys in the House have been told don't
come back until early October. Is that what I understand?
Speaker 2 (28:40):
And we're right now. We are only on alert if
the government chooses to be shut down. Because we did
what we were called to do, and we passed the
resolution last Friday, the Continuing Resolution, sent it over to
the Senate. They voted it down. Now, let me be
clear when I say they voted it down. The American
people need to understand we have fifty three Republicans and
(29:01):
forty seven Democrats in the US Senate, and you say, well,
why is this a problem, Because it takes sixty votes
to stop a filibuster, which means that seven Democrats will
have to join the fifty three Republicans in the Senate
to pass the same resolution that we just passed in
the House that continues to fund the government, and Chuck
(29:24):
Schumer is basically saying, no deal, We're not going to
do this, and therefore we're going to shut the government down.
This will be Schumer shut down if he chooses to
not pass the resolution.
Speaker 1 (29:36):
Do you think the people will see that, Will they
see that this really is on him?
Speaker 2 (29:40):
Oh? I don't see any way around it, because again
you have Republicans that are saying, we want to fund
the government. Listen, the only reason the Democrats don't want
to fund the government is what you said in a
prior segment. They don't want President Trump to continue winning.
He has had such success in this administration, and he
from day one, we saw things. I think I talked
(30:02):
to you just a few weeks into it, and it
was a whirlwind the things that he was getting done
one after the other. And we're seeing that this administration
is being productive, and he's being out there and he's
speaking to the media, and he's being very transparent about
all these things that he's involved with around the world,
the wars.
Speaker 1 (30:22):
That he's bringing, So we haven't talked about that yet.
We have to address that, yeah as well. Maybe in
the next time we at least touch on that, because
that is another issue that is in our faces, the
number of wars that are out there real quickly, the
tariffs and the finances. You're supportive of them.
Speaker 2 (30:38):
I am where we are right now. The President is
still seeing negotiating that's taking place. It was an incredible
deal that happened with Europe, and again, these deals are
coming out one at a time, and that's what we've
got to understand. You've got Scott Bessant, our Treasury secretary,
and the team that's working with him from commerce and
others that are working with these countries one at a
(31:01):
time really to get these deals. Europe of course had
that mass win because they were all linked together. But
right now, look, there's some pain that's involved, but I
also believe that overall we're seeing some wins. For the
first time, we have a president that has taken this
trade issue very very seriously, and he's just trying to
(31:23):
even the playing field and overall, long term, this is
the play. I think that we've had to make.
Speaker 1 (31:29):
It feels like it's as simple as pay your fair share. Correct,
And this is the only weapon he has to get
other countries to pay their fair share of the different
economic tariffs that are out there. That's my simple opinion.
Speaker 2 (31:41):
And he's using that economic power to bring peace. I mean,
you think about it, he's using the economic power for
the United States for the first time in a long
time to really negotiate peace with other leaders in the world.
Speaker 1 (31:54):
That voice is Mark Harris. I'm David Chadwick. Let's come
back and talk a little bit about the wars around
the world and anything else Mark, you want to talk
about nine months into your government oversight, We'll be right back.
(33:06):
Thousand stories of.
Speaker 3 (33:10):
Say thank you.
Speaker 1 (33:13):
Goodah, the tender whisper, the ded and.
Speaker 2 (33:25):
Me that you're pleased and let up, never alone.
Speaker 1 (33:34):
You're a good good father. Well where else can we
go in our faith except to believe that God is
a good good father. He's in control even when things
seem chaotic, and we can't trust him to how everyone.
I'm David Chadwick and this is News Talk eleven, ten
ninety nine to three WBT. Welcome back to the show.
(33:54):
My friend and Representative of the Charlotte Aaria, Mark Harris,
and our Congress is with me today, MARKA pass as well.
We have that heartbeat that we share together, MARKA. I've
been a ministry now forty five years and you have
been how long thirty six thirty six? This has been
a great ride. I tell people all the time, it's
the greatest calling possible. Mark. Let's just talk about a
few things going to rapid fire you, because this is
(34:15):
our last segment. We don't have a whole lot more time.
But let's just get to these things. The wars and
rumors of wars that Jesus predicted, they're all around us
and proliferating. Who would have thought that we had a
threat from Venezuela regarding a potential war between Venezuela and America.
You have the same thing with China and the Philippines
now out there, and North and South Korea and other
(34:38):
places all around the world. War is really a real
issue you guys have to deal with regularly. We do,
and we see what's happening around the world. And I
think that we find ourselves at a unique place because
we have a president and President Trump that has demonstrated
real leadership in the world that we haven't seen.
Speaker 2 (34:59):
In a while. And I think that that is making
quite an impression. And again his fact that he is
going to be a president that is initiating law and
order in our country. One of the things with the
immigration issue, one of the things that he was really
very adamant about is we were going to stop the
flow of drugs fentanel into our country that were killing
(35:20):
our young people.
Speaker 1 (35:21):
And that's the Venezuela issue, with bombing boats and.
Speaker 2 (35:24):
All of that. Absolutely, and I mean, when you take
the steps that he's willing to take, I think it
sends a message around the world that again, he says
what he means, and he means what he says, and
he's not afraid to take action on that.
Speaker 1 (35:38):
And he speaks to Western European powers about the Islamization
of their countries. He says, you've got to stop this,
the free speech issues in those countries, You've got to
stop this. At the UN this past week, he speaks
to the whole world and basically calls them to task
for their inefficiency and their ineffectiveness.
Speaker 2 (35:55):
Oh and absolutely recognizing what's happening in Israel. You know,
I just had an opportunity the first of August to
be there in Israel and to see all of the
devastation that goes back to October seventh. That's hard to
believe that we're coming up on yet another anniversary next month.
Speaker 1 (36:12):
Three years it happened. Three years, It's hard to believe.
Speaker 2 (36:15):
It is hard.
Speaker 1 (36:15):
And Hamas invaded Israel. What nation in the world cannot
defend itself when they have another terrorist organization power that
invades their borders and it takes hostages as well.
Speaker 2 (36:26):
Exactly, And those hostages are still there, I mean some
twenty of them that they are still alive, I know.
Speaker 1 (36:34):
But still even the Hamas is cleaning to those hostages
because that's their only power, that's their only leverage.
Speaker 2 (36:39):
That's right. And then you've got some of these Western
European countries that are suddenly setting up and recognizing Palestine.
And again, President Trump, he's not putting up with this.
He's making it very clear that you guys are making
a serious error here. And I think that we've got
to really come to understand that what he is bringing
(36:59):
is leadership. And when you bring leadership, there are going
to be those that are going to test the limits
that are going to test do you really have the
resolve to stand up? But I think that I am
seeing at least that when you really watch it play out,
that our friends and our allies are recognizing they have
a true friend and a true ally in the United States,
(37:21):
and our enemies are quickly understanding that they've got to
be We're going to be serious about how we deal
with this.
Speaker 1 (37:28):
Supposedly in the next few days, eighty nine percent of
the United Nations countries are going to demand a Palestinian
state to Israel. Crazy to me, Mark, It's not going
to work the way those boundaries are drawn. Little Israel
is going to be surrounded by enemies. They want the
complete eradication of Israel from the face of this earth.
Israel will has a right to defend itself. That Yahu says.
(37:49):
We lived in Germany where we couldn't defend ourselves. Six
million as of us died. We can defend ourselves right now.
We will defend ourselves. I don't know what else you
can do except be a supporter of Israel. Hamas invaded them,
took hostages. They must be able to respond midterm elections.
Speaker 2 (38:04):
Yes, sir, well and by the way, and I do
believe you're going to see Israel continue to finish that
war and they're going to get it finished, and they're
going to finish with Hamas and that's no other option.
They have no other option. We've already seen what a
two state solution looks like. And the two state solution
was twenty years of stress with Gaza and Hamas in
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their leadership there, and we saw what happened when they
came across that border and took the hostages and murdered
and butchered all of that.
Speaker 1 (38:33):
And you on a Palestinian state, we're seventy five percent
of the elected officials were Hamas representatives in Gaza. That's
going to continue. So you're asking Israel to be surrounded
by Hamas terrorists. It makes no sense whatsoever.
Speaker 2 (38:46):
None, whatsoever. Yes, about the midterms, The midterms are going
to be extremely, extremely important, probably the most important midterms
that we've had. I know that phrase gets overused sometimes
and people say, oh, you always say this is the
most important election of our lifetime. Well, the reality is
these midterms are going to be extremely important because of
(39:06):
the work that President Trump has already got underway and
that would be brought to a screeching halt in many
ways if we're not successful in these midterms, because listen,
we have a very narrow margin in the US House
of Representatives. We have a fairly narrow margin although a
little stronger actually when you think about it, in the
(39:29):
US Senate fifty three.
Speaker 1 (39:30):
So you have a couple of Republicans quote unquote, who
are you know, more rhino issue.
Speaker 2 (39:36):
If you will, yes, exactly. So I'm glad you said that.
And so the reality is that when you if we don't,
if we're not successful in these midterms, the left will
do everything they can to stemy the progress that President
Trump has done. We've already seen it. We saw it
in his first term that when things did not go
(39:57):
well at the midterm, then he ended up being impeached.
And that becomes the mantra of the left. That's all
they've got. We've seen in this time that they have
they don't have a clear leader at all, they don't
really have any winning issues at all.
Speaker 1 (40:14):
And most of them are extreme left. On the ones
they do cling to.
Speaker 2 (40:18):
They are and the rhetoric, the rhetoric is so dangerous.
I mean, we're seeing people being shot and killed. And
that happens when people keep calling folks fascist, calling folks
you disagree with Nazis, all of these things, you just
open the door.
Speaker 1 (40:33):
And nor did we even talk about we don't have
time today, but just the number of killings that have
been motivated by some person associated with the trans world. Absolutely,
and Mark I just again, I think that's mental illness.
I think that's demonic as well, and we've got to
address it. You cannot take a scalpel of anesthetics and
think you can change what God designed male and female.
(40:54):
So do you think that the midterms will be successful
for the Republicans or do you think they really could changeover?
Speaker 2 (41:01):
I feel like that they very well can be if
we can keep folks engaged, if we can help people
understand in some ways. Let's be honest, it's going to
be a mandate on the Trump presidency. It's going to
be an opportunity for the president. He's going to be
a North Carolina a lot. We have a US Senate
race that's going to be major and we need to
hold this seat in North Carolina, and so he's going
(41:23):
to be here a lot. I just believe that we
can be successful but I think we've just got to
keep moving forward.
Speaker 1 (41:30):
Mark Harris, thank you for being with me today. One
Timothy two to two reminds us to pray for those
who are in authority over us. In Jesus' name, I
pray for you, Mark, that He give you wisdom, oversight,
and counsel in order to make the right decisions, to
be friends with the right people, to influence them to
make the right decisions so that our nation can still
be prosperous for the glory of God. Thank you for
(41:52):
being with me today.
Speaker 2 (41:53):
David. Thank you, You're a great friend and it's always
great to be with you.
Speaker 1 (41:56):
I'm David Chadwick. This is News Talk eleven ten ninety
nine three WBT. Just do this for me, everyone, would
you love God and love your neighbor. Do those two
things and you have a lifetime's worth of work to do.
I look forward to talking with you all with Sarah
Hewittt next week.
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