November 9, 2025 • 39 mins
- Shares his career....worked for 3 NBA Teams and the experience!
- Importance of bodily and mental health.
- How God has worked in many ways in his life.
- Has a strong servant heart!
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Speaker 1 (00:07):
Hi everyone, I'm David Chadwick and this is Who's Talk
eleven ten nine nineteen WWT. You're welcome in the show.
In case you don't know, this as a faith and
values program that tries to intersect faith and values with
what's going on in our culture locally and globally. It's
always a pleasure doing the show now over twenty five years.
Many thanks to Perry's Find Jewelry for your sponsorship of
the show. Without you, I could not do this on
(00:28):
a weekly basis. So I've been looking forward to today's
show for some time. My friend Joe Sharp has agreed
to be with me. He is a former overseer of
health and wellness for several NBA teams a couple of
college teams as well. I know it's a fascinating story
of all that he has learned through the years. So Joe,
I wanted you to be on the show to talk
about what you do some of the people you've encountered
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in the NBA through the years, but also what you're
doing now to help people get and stay well. Joe Sharp,
thanks for being with me.
Speaker 2 (00:57):
Well, David, thank you very much for the obviously to
friendship over the years as well as an opportunity to
be with you on the radio show today. It's quite
an honor. I'm excited about there and took export you know,
explore and give more of my personal history there. You know.
It started off, you know, as a dream in high
school where I had an opportunity to do a kind
of a term paper in sports medicine. Got lucky in
the undergrad and found you know, a role in athlete
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of training, and you know, from there the passion grew.
I did undergrad and grad school you know, on the
East Coast and Norfolk, Virginia and Oldaminion. Left Old Dominion
in ninety three to take a job at the University
of Connecticut with Jim Cahoun and his program there. And
that was, you know, a great, great experience in itself.
Speaker 1 (01:36):
And yeah, a lot of people don't realize that Yukon
has more national championships since nineteen ninety nine to the
day than any other school in the country, not Carolina,
not Duke, you know, not any other school except Yukon.
Speaker 2 (01:50):
Yeah, it's amazing. You know, small school, you know, Farm
Grant School in Connecticut has you know, six national championships
in such a short period of time there and you
know it all started back and you know, with the
dream of Jim Calhoun back in nineteen ninety eight eighty six.
I'm sorry when he took the job at Connecticut and
you know, just grew it. He's a you know, a
New England guy anyway, and just had a great, great
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vision for the organization and the university and carried it
out too many championships himself and h and then passed
the torch show on to his former players and to
take a leisure back to that.
Speaker 1 (02:22):
Yeah, and you had no Mecca okafor on one of
the teams that you oversaw at Yukon.
Speaker 2 (02:27):
Yeah, I was fortunate to have a Mecca his freshman
year and he and Ben Gordon were together. Uh. They
were a great dynamic duo to have together as a
freshman year. And then after his freshman year, I moved
on to the NBA and took a job with the
Minnesota Timberwolves.
Speaker 1 (02:41):
How did that happen? Did you just apply for the
job when you saw it open or how did that occur?
Speaker 2 (02:46):
It was a weird thing. I was a year before
right after we went a championship in ninety nine with Connecticut.
I did kind of a volunteer opportunity for the combine
for the NBA in Chicago, and there I met you
know then now true good friend there and and then
you know Boss Greg Farnum. Greg, you know, thought about
me when he was looking through change his staff a
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little bit and he took the role from being an
assistant to the head and he was moving up and
he wanted to bring his own staff in and Greg
bring me a board for for two years or two years,
and you know, it was a great opportunity there too,
and to be along, you know, with Greg and the
staff there, and you know, the great player of Kevin Garnett.
He was, you know, a pretty intense guy in many levels,
but off the court he's he's a gentle giant.
Speaker 1 (03:27):
So really good player too, yeah, a really good player.
So so what happened after Minnesota? You went then to.
Speaker 2 (03:34):
Where I came to Charlotte for the first time. You know,
Bob catch for a brand new team and Bernie Baker
staff was you know, kind enough to bring me aboard
here to kind of do a startup. And you know,
it's a great opportunity to start something fresh in Charlotte.
I'd always had a dream of working in Charlotte over
the years, and as a student, and you know, having
a chance to see the Hornets play in Norfolk where
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I went to undergrad. But then you know, the opportunity
came about and then Bobcatch were here and you know,
was sorry the team here and I enjoyed that experience too,
from Bernie's opportunities to give here too.
Speaker 1 (04:05):
Yeah, so you're here. And obviously the Hornets pre Bobcats
that moved to New Orleans and claimed that name, the
New Orleans Hornets, which made absolutely no sense to anyone.
But then ultimately the name was brought back here. But
there's this interlude in between the two where they're called
this Charlotte Bobcats. How long did that happen.
Speaker 2 (04:23):
I think the Bobcats for around for about eight nine
years or so. I was here for four of those
years there, and then after I left, about five years
after I left, they got their naming rights back to
become the Hornets again with the colors and everything. So
again almost a transformation of a team there, you know,
from one city to her next. And just so Charlotte
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Hornets came back, and I think there was under the
direction of Michael. I think it was always his desire
to have the Hornets back in Charlotte there, and it
worked out pretty well there.
Speaker 1 (04:51):
So you got the Bobcats and then you leave the
Bobcats and where do you go from there?
Speaker 2 (04:55):
An opportunity to go join almost another startup there. We
went from a team moving from Seattle to Oklahoma City,
and when I first got there, it was the Oklahoma
City basketball team, and you know, it took a while,
and then when he finally nick named the rights of
naming the rights of Oklahoma City Thunder, and I had
a chance to win and start fresh a brand new
group there. We're bringing in again, a new team, a
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new staff, and everyone's moving to Oklahoma. And you know,
the people from Seattle a little heartbroken because they were
leaving Seattle, but they adopted and changed being you know,
Thunder quite a bit there.
Speaker 1 (05:29):
And that's under nickname. Doesn't it come from the storms
that come up during especially the summertime of the thunder
rattling and the potential tornadoes and all of that kind
of thing.
Speaker 2 (05:38):
Exactly, That's where it all came from there. And it's
ironically did they have a Roman Buffalo? Is there? Is
there thunder mascot explained.
Speaker 1 (05:45):
That one to me and my friend. That doesn't seem
to make much sense to me, But you were there
for the startup, and really those were bad teams as
they got started, just like most NBA teams to start
from scratch have not so good teams. But they got
better and better, didn't they.
Speaker 2 (05:59):
Yeah. There, it's a pretty good and small nucleus there
with you, Kevin Durant and Russell Westbrook and then you know,
James Harden Keemen. Those are the first three draft picks
for that team there, and.
Speaker 1 (06:09):
Not three bad players, are they exactly?
Speaker 2 (06:12):
Yeah, they got better over time, and then as they
got better, then they got you know, became more and
deeper into the playoffs and things like that. But good
opportunity to be there too with them.
Speaker 1 (06:21):
Well, it sounds like a wonderful situation with those three
guys especially, and I know you continue to have a
great friendship with Russell Westbrook who is there as well,
and that was something I know really interesting too.
Speaker 2 (06:33):
You.
Speaker 1 (06:33):
We'll talk about that when we come back, because I
want to get you to Charlotte if we possibly can.
Joe Sharp is my guest today. He's a wellness expert,
former NBA trainer, overseer of people's health. He's my guest.
We'll talk more about his life, his purpose, his mission
in just a moment. I'm David Chadwick, will be right back.
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Dear Jesus, help me to spread your fragrance. Every Hi, everybody.
I'm David Chadwick and this is News Talk eleven ten
ninet ninety three WBT. Welcome back to the show. If
you missed the first segment, my guest is Joe Sharp.
Joe is a for lack of a better word, Joe,
(07:50):
I know as trainer, but I know there's much more
involved with it. Talk about what it is exactly you
do in Layman's language, with your work in the NBA especially.
Speaker 2 (07:59):
Yeah, the biggest term is, you know, trainers can trade
many different ways there and you know the organization I
work with, you know, is called as truly an Athletic trainer,
and it's kind of a hyrid of many different things there,
with a little bit of an e n T, a
little bit of a physical therapist, with a little bit
of a primary care physician, and a little bit of
a northeedic physician.
Speaker 1 (08:18):
So it's sometimes counselor to the friends as well.
Speaker 2 (08:21):
And sometimes counselor as well. Yes, you never turn it right.
So it's I kind of appropriately have many different specialties
without being a specialist in one, and that's been a
nice part about it. You have a lot of flexibility
and to do with many off an area or two
and get to know a lot of different groups of
people too. Well.
Speaker 1 (08:38):
When we left in our last segment, we had you
in Oklahoma City right when they were beginning to get good.
I mean, they had some fairly good players like Kevin
Durant and others as well. Then they I think traded
away those guys some and then began another kind of
rebuild mode to where they won the NBA Championship last year.
Speaker 2 (08:56):
Yeah, they did. I mean I think, you know, the
first you know piece was a you know, in probably
in twenty thirteen, they traded away James Harden, who was
you know at previous year was six man in a
year and again a special guy to be around and
to see his talent, you know, come off the bench
and he accepted a role very well. And then later on,
you know, I think a few years later Kevin Durant
decided to leave and go to Golden State and you know,
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he won a few championships there and with Steph and
that group there. So I think that was a little
bit of heartbreak to the city and then that kind
of started to rebuild there. I mean, Russell was still
the final piece of the Big three that as they
call it the time there, and you know, I had
this chance to work with Russell one on one, you know,
for about ten years or so.
Speaker 1 (09:34):
Y'all are good friends. As I mentioned the first segment.
Speaker 2 (09:37):
Yeah, he's a he's a super nice guy and he's
you know, been a good friend for years there, and
you know, his family has been great, and we've had
a chance to you know, do some special things together,
especially you know, not only with the Oklahoma City Thunder,
but with USA Basketball as well. We did a trip
to Turkey for what you know, for the World Championship
at one point there, and then we did an Olympics
you know opportunity in twenty twelve and that was a
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special opportunity also to be part of an Olympic te
there for you know, on two occasions there. But Russell's
a special guy, uh, even to this day, and you know,
he was the one of the few kids that would
actually take time and visit my kids, you know, for
what if a play or for for a hockey match
here and there, to watch my kids there. So he's
been you know, he's spilt close in the years of
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my heart there probably one of my top favorite point
guards to work with over the years.
Speaker 1 (10:20):
Is interesting, Well, now you're in Oklahoma City, but something's
churning within you. You had been in Charlotte with the Bobcats,
and now Michael owns the team and has returned the
Moniker Hornets to the team. What what caused you to
come to Charlotte and be a part of the Hornets.
Speaker 2 (10:35):
You know, it was an opportunity to go and get
closer to my mom. It was you know, agatting back
to I love the city of Charlotte itself there and
there's no doubt. And the first time I left and
uh wasn't wasn't say I was excited is to leave,
but it was an opportunity to kind of go somewhere else.
And some things have changed here. And you know, I
got a phone call from the physician group here and
they asked me if I wanted to, you know, be
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interested in giving him some guidance on how to put
together a staff here. So that's how the conversation started
over time, and then after being here the conversation, I said,
you know, I said, if you're interested, I mean, I'd
be willing to come back there. I mean, I love
Oklahoma City. They're not kicking me out, but you know,
opportunity to grow something back in Charlotte again, I'd love
to do it again if possible. There. They had a discussion,
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but you know, with Michael that was okay to bring
me back for an interview. And I interviewed here with
Mitch cup Check and who's become a dear friend over
the last couple of years here and and after the
interview with Mitch, and you know, I think everything went well,
and he gave me an opportunity to come back this way.
And you know, I was going to come back, and
my family's going to enjoy because we had some property
out this way also still, and we wanted to kind
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of come back and be close to it. And you know,
both my wife at the time and I had Asian parents,
so you know, to keep me closer was you know,
really a great opportunity also and very very very appealing there,
and so we came back. I came back here and
then she had to over oversee and lead the Hornets
to try to put together a pretty good performance staff.
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You know, can go from my first time here of
staff of three to now, you know, when I first
I left there recently tour staff of eight. It's you know,
pretty good, you know, opportunity to grow, and we were
doing some really good things I think with the team
over time and getting some good response you know, over
over the years too, which was good.
Speaker 1 (12:20):
Well, you were here for how many years altogether with
the Hornets the second time?
Speaker 2 (12:25):
Six years the second time, okay.
Speaker 1 (12:28):
And your favorite hornet being here over the last six
years or so.
Speaker 2 (12:34):
You know, I probably have to say a Mecca a
mecha ocal four because I had him in college and
then we you know, spent you know four years together
after college, you know, and here and he was a
different person. Uh, And I recently saw him years ago
unfortunately a set event in Oklahoma and Monty Williams's wife
passed away. But uh, it was just like you know,
Mec and I had never you know been apart for
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you know, several years. We kind of reconnected and you know,
caught right back up. And I think we had a
meal together, and you know, just spend some more time together.
So I think a Mecca's probably my fast. Probably spent
more time with a Mecca than anyone else too, in
any other hornets, because he had a pretty rigorous routine
of stretching before and after games. And I happen to be,
you know, the bearer of that most of the time.
Speaker 1 (13:13):
So, so tell us about your job. What you have
to do with these elite athletes who have to stay
at peak performance in order to keep their paychecks where
they are. What do you do to help make them
the best they can be?
Speaker 2 (13:30):
Well, I think the good opportunity there too is you know,
everyone's unique, So I think, you know one, learning of
personality is a big part of it there, and then
how to approach them, you know, one on one, you know,
And people always ask me, is it difficult working with
someone who is a super athlete? And I would say
no most of the time there, And I say what
I say no is because it's just like you and I.
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I mean, they just want to be cared for and
taken care of without a whole lot of hoopla. They
have enough of that. You know, whether it's on the
court or off the court, whatever it may be. But
you know, when you have them one on one on
the table, there is a good opportunity for good deep
conversation with them one on one as well as get
to know their bodies, you know, because you treat them,
you know the good things. We have access to them
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really year round, you know, whereas in college you have
a certain limitations on how much time you can spend
with them, and then there's a limited number of days
and a year or two you have with them. But
you know, in professional sports, I mean whether you're with
them in season in your facility or in their off
season in their hometown or their city where they live,
you have access to them. And I think that's how
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the bond are build there. And you get probably four
or five athletes like that over time per season to
build that bond with there. And so you know everything
about those four or five you know, players at a
high level there and and then you you know anything
that comes up. You know. My goal with them was
to tell them is it, don't hide anything, tell me
about in advance of it happening, because small problems become
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big problems if we don't know about them.
Speaker 1 (14:54):
So you would you would help with things like sleep
and things like eating rightly obviously, and things like stretching
with is so important as well. I mean, you try
to pay attention to the most minute detail in order
for them to be at peak performance.
Speaker 2 (15:05):
Absolutely, yes, And you know, again, if I don't have
the answer, which sometimes they don't, you know, manytimes they don't,
I would always find an expert in the field. There.
We bring in sleep experts to talk to the team
or talk to the players kind of one on one.
We have dietitians and we around the players, and then
you know, we have people just monitoring things too, you know,
from you know, because sports scientists are kind of monitoring
what the players are doing, how much you're doing, and
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why they're doing it there. So it's it's a it's
a big task there, it's a fun task and it's
come of you know, putting all the pieces of the
puzzle together there. And as we do that, the you know,
players can hopefully be a peak performance at all times there.
And as we you know, and there's there is there
peak performance there, then obviously the fans benefit from seeing
the player. You know. It really just played their talent
over time.
Speaker 1 (15:46):
Yeah, you know, Joe, I've had the privilege of doing
a few great you know players, either basketball or baseball
or whatever, and oftentimes these guys get labeled prima Donna's.
But what I've discovered is they're really just like you
and me. They may be even a little more shy
because they have to be so public most often, but
in their personal time, they're really just very down to
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earth and good people. Have you discovered that as well?
Speaker 2 (16:11):
Absolutely, Yeah, for the most part there. I mean they're
really they like to they like their privacy, and I
understand because one, they're always on public display. I mean,
if it's you and I can go to a restaurant,
no one you know better I But if they go
to a restaurant, whether it's you know, McDonald's or a
five star restaurant there, or they're going to be you know,
one dog that you know, maybe ask for an autograph
or bother there, even going to a grocery store, just
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picking up gas at the gas station. I mean, people
want to just spend time with them there. And but
I think one on one behind the you know when
they called the lights are off, they just like you
and I just want to, you know, get to know you.
You know, they have a good conversation with you, and
they want to get to know you. Wanted to get
to know them too as well, and that's when you
know the bonds really connect their you know, outside of
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the line right there.
Speaker 1 (16:56):
Well, you have their medical charts, you have their eating habits.
I'm sure you know some of their relational issues that
are going on in their lives. Because there's nothing that
will affect a performance worse than if your girlfriend rejects
you or whatever. You have to deal with all of
that as well, like a super counselor too.
Speaker 2 (17:10):
Yep, I'm always on guard there, so you always be
ready to answer any questions and guide us appropriately there.
So that's been kind of a unique part and the
puzzle there to put together for those guys. Wow.
Speaker 1 (17:21):
Well, Joe Sharp is my guest today, just years as
a wellness trainer expert with NBA teams and most recently
with the Charlotte Hornets. Just talking about his life. Joe,
when we come back, let's talk about, you know, some
of the particulars of your life right now, what you're
going through, and also let's talk about your faith because
that's an important part of your life as well, and
I think people would love to hear that part of
(17:43):
who you are as well, this especially being a faith
in values program. Joe Sharp my guest. I'm David Chadwick
and we will be right back.
Speaker 2 (18:30):
Away. Don't know how much you did it.
Speaker 1 (18:37):
Hi, everyone, I'm David Chadwick and missus News Talk eleven ten,
nineteen ninety three WBT, Welcome back to the show. If
you'd like to hear the program in its entirety with
my friend Joe Sharp, who has been at high levels
of being a trainer, wellness expert overseer with NBA teams
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Show and you can listen from beginning to end with
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just a few commercials. Joe again, is great having you
on the show, and during our break you were sharing
with me some things that I've forgotten and I'd be
stupid if I didn't cover with you. The twenty twelve
Olympic team. You were the trainer wellness expert overseer for
the kids for the players' health. Talk about that twenty
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twelve Olympic team.
Speaker 2 (19:21):
It was a special team to be a part of there.
And you know, it was the I call it the
All Star of All Stars for having the twelve I
call it the best players in the world on your side,
and you almost had an advantage going into that. You
know again, event there he was you know, well, you know,
if you look at the team itself, and there was
you know, Lebron you know, he was prettill playing the NBA. Ironically,
Chris Paul was still in the NBA unfortunately, you know,
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passing of Kobe Bryant. You know, to have those three
big names together, Kevin Durant, Russell Westbrook and James Harden
who actually owned the Thunder at the time together or
on that team together, Darren Williams who was a great
point guard over the year. Andrea Gondala was on that
team also, and kame Olal Anthony you know, was really big.
Speaker 1 (20:06):
Oh kind of throw in Anthony there, one of the
greatest efforts himself.
Speaker 2 (20:11):
Yeah, exactly. So it was. It was the All Star
of All Star that I think for teams. And it's
probably the most talent team I've ever been around. And
you know, again, I didn't say I had to do
a whole lot of work because they were just self driven,
very well motivated by themselves and all of it would
just show up and really, you know, really just kind
of help with with anything I could, you know, on
on the quarter, off the court, whatever I need to
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be helped with there with the USA Basketball organization there,
and and also had a good chance opportunity to get
to know coach k from Due quite a bit there.
Speaker 1 (20:41):
And and you think he's a great coach, don't you.
I mean, I hate to admit it, but I think
he is.
Speaker 2 (20:46):
Yeah, I agree with that one. And uh, he's he's
a good coach. And he's a really good person too.
I think he's probably a better person he is a coach.
And you know, even Jim Baheim, who's another Hall of
Fame coach, to get a chance to work with him
a little bit too and get to know him, because
you know, my years Connecticut, I was never you know,
anywhere I was. I was in the opposite sideline. And
I've heard Jim Cajuns say some good things about Jim
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beheimen es Syracuse. Yeah, so it was a good opportunity
to kind of get to know him a little bit
there too.
Speaker 1 (21:11):
These elite, elite athletes, the very best of the best.
Do they have a special desire to take care of
their bodies more than others?
Speaker 2 (21:19):
Do you think? I do think so too, and they
that's why they're at that level there, and it's sustainable. Also,
I mean, you look at the names I mentioned, and
they've had long NBA careers or still having own long
NBA careers and have been very successful and very productive
in those years. Also, so it isn't very surprise that
you know, Lebron is, you know in year number twenty two,
I think it is of this year. And he's a
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special person to be around. And you know, Lebron's was
very wise early on in his career. He hired one
person to work with him with every year everywhere he's been.
So that's been kind of special to see over the years.
And I never had a chance to watch him off
the court very much, but his on court work was unbelievable.
Speaker 1 (21:58):
His body is just unbelievable. Well to play for twenty
two years like he has, it's just absolutely fascinating. Well,
let me ask you this, are you concerned about the
gambling stuff that's sorts recently come out with the NBA,
and I think it's all sports and I'll give my
card on the table. Yeah, I'm really concerned because how
do you control anything like this and it is an addiction,
like you well knows as someone who's been in the
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NBA and worked at that highest level possible.
Speaker 2 (22:22):
Yeah, I think it's concerned there too. And I think,
you know, as as we talked about the integrity of
the game could be compromised because of it there and
you know, where does the stop. Is it a poker
game or is it true gambling on the game itself?
Speaker 1 (22:32):
And are guys throwing games and points spreads and those
kind of things? Wow, that really does get dangerous.
Speaker 2 (22:38):
Yeah, and I'm I'm not saying that's happening, but you
know I did is concern and I understand you know,
Adam's you know, concerned with that too. You know, the
integrity there, and you know, we know we're looking back
if you go back to you know, years ago, you
looking at the Pete Rose situation. You know, I'm not
sure I'm not saying that we're there with the game,
especially with the NBA, but there is a little concern there.
You know, I do worry about you know again what
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word's heading to and who's going to be you know,
uncovered in this whole aspect there too. And you know
there'll be some people that I think, you know, we'll
be surprised over the years and because more is coming,
I think over time, and that'll be the sad part
there is to see.
Speaker 1 (23:11):
Well, you've opened the door and you've made it not
only legal, but you've made it accessible even with a
guy scoring a number of points in the fourth quarter
or not. I mean, it's just crazy. What is happening
with the whole gambling industry right now? Just a billions
upon billions of dollar industry. Well, Joe, let me shift
gears on you right now. What a fascinating life you've
had and all kinds of experiences. What are you doing now?
(23:33):
You're you're not in the NBA, but yet you're still
in healthcare and wellness ministry.
Speaker 2 (23:38):
Yeah, you know, I had an opportunity to was introduced
to it's it's called hyperbaric oxygen therapy. I was introduced
to it about three or four years ago with one
of my players who had surgery up in New York
and immediately after surgery went into a hyperbaric oxygen chamber,
and so basically you're you're being delivered pure oxygen through
a mask medical greade oxygen and then you're also in
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an FD air prooved chamber that's compressed with ambient air
and that process it can lasting we're from sixty to
ninety minutes or so, and we're in the process now
of adding air brakes too, because you know, the air
brakes one there's a preventative measure there too from being
you know, from oxygen toxicity. But it's also there's an
off gassing during that air brake too, so where a
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body's absorbed a lot of oxygen through the process of
being compressed and breathing pure oxygen, but also now once
you take the oxygen away, now use some off gas,
and so it goes deep into the tissue down to
the plasma level there, salular level. So it's it's pretty
neat in that aspect there too. And it's used for
about you know, thirteen or so label uses by the FDA,
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and there's another fourteen or so off label uses that
you know, we may see just in general you know,
general wellness there too. So you know, it's I think
it's for you know, anyone in acute injury or illness anywhere,
from long term illnesses conditions to just general wellness, just
to kind of feel better about you know, how do
you feel in your body? And you know, with no
illnesses at all. So it's it's a it's a pretty
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unique concept there, and you know, I had a chance
to be a part of that and bring a franchise
to Charlotte there uh this year, and you know it
was a you know, it was a great transition from
the NBA, but it also still keeps me in the
healthcare industry as well as you know, serving others too
in the process.
Speaker 1 (25:23):
And I ever enjoy that that's a part of your faith,
which we'll get to in just a second too. But
if anyone's interested in knowing more about what you're doing,
want to contact you might have some long standing chronic illnesses,
what would they do?
Speaker 2 (25:35):
You know, I probably start off with the website. You know,
we had to have a website. It's called MD Hyperbaric,
you know Amazon Mary d is a doctor, and then
Hyperbaric dot com And we're one of nine franchises right
now in the US, and and then they can go
to and look at different conditions that we would treat.
Some are on label off label, they're both all are
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generated on the website itself, and there's also information how
to get in contact whatever. Clinic here is Charlotte, and
we'd love to have you come by just once a
tour of the facility as well as maybe you know,
be treating with this also.
Speaker 1 (26:06):
And just do a consultation as well to maybe to
begin the process. You know, I am a minister and
I love God's word as you know. But God made
the body to heal itself and if you can get
some help from some different agencies, that's what God would will,
I think, is to make you healthy and well again,
and that's what you want to do.
Speaker 2 (26:23):
I hope, so yeah, hopeing that part and the best
part too is is oxygen. We're breathing oxygen every day.
We're just delivering more oxygen to the body. And why
is utilizing it and once it gets it and from
the healing process I call it from the inside out
there and I think that's the unique part there. We're
not using medication to do what you know, again, what's
natural anyway, and we're just hoping to ate it a
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little bit there and you know, I'm not saying we're
a cure all well, we can, you know, I think
we see enhancement with you know basis we're treating so far.
Speaker 1 (26:51):
Yeah, and I love the fact that so much of
it has almost a natural feel to it, that you're
using the stuff God put into his creation and just
maybe my magnifying and making more intense, but helping that
help make people well too.
Speaker 2 (27:04):
Absolutely, yeah, And that's the whole part there too, And
that's why I fell in, you know, really like this
particular type of treatment there, and there isn't you know.
It's new and unique and it's kind of like, you know,
I call it a little bit off a left field there,
but I think once people become more aware of it there,
it's going to be a pretty big thing for the
area here. And I think Charlotte's great community for it
there too. It's a it's a very healthy community there.
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You other people like to do with things outdoors, so
this kind of goes along with that particular type of
treatment there too, you know, with the healthy community here
in Charlotte.
Speaker 1 (27:33):
What about the street address if anybody's interested.
Speaker 2 (27:35):
Yeah, if it's we're off Rando off Road three five
three five rand Off Road. We're kind of in the basement,
kind of by ourselves. I think we get confused there.
There's another group that's you know above us, you know,
same suite number Sweet one hundred, but we're G one hundred,
so G's and ground one hundred there. So if you
get to thirty five thirty five Randoff Road and go
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to G one hundred and come right in. The doors
are always open welcome. Yes, at any time we do tours,
you know, whether we're treating someone and not treating someone,
and we're always available to the tours.
Speaker 1 (28:06):
I'm always interested in Elijah, the great Old Testament prophet
who had a huge disappointment in life and thought he
was going to die and ran and fell down and
basically said to God, I'm ready to die. And God
comes to him through an angelic appearance, and the first
thing he does was put him to sleep, and then
he awakened him and then gave him water, and then
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he put him back to sleep again. You know, before
he got too spiritual, he said, get some good sleep
and make sure you're drinking enough water.
Speaker 2 (28:37):
That's half the battle right there. Dehydrated there, and I
think you know, you know, even when their facility there too.
If you want to take a nap in chamber while
you're getting oxygen, I think it's very important to do
so too, and which we did. Most people do.
Speaker 1 (28:47):
Interesting. And the third thing he did was he gave
him angels food, which is probably the food of angels
in heaven, which means it's perfectly nutritious. The first thing
he did was he corrected his diet and make sure
that he ate well. So you know, a lot of
the solutions that we have in life are just some
simple things that God wants us to do. Joe sharp Is,
my guest, has a great history of sports, oversight with
medicine and other things as well. Joe, when we come back,
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I want to hear about your faith, just your meaningfulness
and your walk with the Lord, because you know we
are body, soul and spirit and all three need to
be taken care of as well. I'm David Chadwick and
we will be right back, but I live to ship.
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Oh my life. Hi everyone, I'm David Chadwick and this
is News Talk eleven, ten ninety nine three WBT. Welcome
back to the show. In case you're just jumping on board,
my guest This is Joe Sharp, who has a multiple
experiences with college programs, NBA programs as a trainer type
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wellness overseer of athletes health and wholeness, and has actually
started a business here in Charlotte as well to help
do the very things he learned as a professional dealing
with the highest level athletes possible. Joe, before we get
there one more time and let you plug what you're
doing today. Your faith has been very real to you.
You know, we talked a little bit all fair, how
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in the Bible we are body, soul, and spirit. And
if your spirit is connected to your body, for example,
which it is, if your body is not healthy, it's
going to affect your spiritual life. And if your soul,
which is your mind, your will, and your emotions, if
those are off whack, that's going to affect your spiritual
life and also your body as well. So getting all
three well in a wholeness mentality is so important. So
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you have talked earlier in the program about the importance
of bodily health and also dealing with your emotions making
sure on top of all of that, but let's talk
about this virtual life as well. Talk about your own faith.
Speaker 2 (31:02):
You know, what David, and probably you know, I, I
guess gave myself to God probably when I was thirteen
years old. I was probably one of the last things
my father saw me do. My father passed when I
was younger, shortly very young, also at a young age there.
Speaker 1 (31:17):
And that's your love for your mom right now, like
they do.
Speaker 2 (31:22):
Yeah, mom has been mom and dad for for obviously
several decades now, and she's been you know, my rock,
and you know, to watch her grow up in the
church and watch her and my dad kind of grow
together in the church there too, was you know, something
I didn't understand at the time. And then I went
through college and then got away from my faith a
little bit. But then probably my biggest you know move
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to kind of go overboard even more for faith there
is when I got here in two thousand and five,
I heard about grace, which I heard I was, you know,
in your other church there and.
Speaker 1 (31:56):
One of my favorite words, I mean, if it's not true,
don't tell me that God loves me unconditionally and He's
not going to stop loving me because He just loves me.
And getting in touch with that enormous grace of God
has overcome most every obstacle I've ever faced in life,
I think for you.
Speaker 2 (32:12):
Too, yeah, absolutely, And you know, I've probably learned about
grace probably the most from you personally. And I think
we had a Bible study together too my first time here,
and you know, some grou group of men, and I
heard it again. I heard the red grace again over
and over again. And and then I moved and I
took my faith to Oklahoma with me, and you know,
grace was you know, even more I talked about there.
Speaker 1 (32:32):
There's a lot of strong churches in Oklahoma City, I know.
Speaker 2 (32:35):
Yeah, and I had a chance to attend two of
them there, and you know, just really you know, just
enjoy the opportunity there too, and get to connect with
the men there also. And I think, you know, going
through you know, some trials in life, and you know, again,
you know, when I came back to Charlotte, you know,
back in twenty twenty eighteen, I obviously went through a
life change event there too, with a separation from you know,
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former wife, and again I still heard the word grace,
and I think that was probably the key thing that
kind of got me through. And it's kind of you
know what my kind of home I had on now
too is in probably over the years and you know
my goal now too if I can you know, obviously
continue to experience that grace, but also teach my kids,
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you know, Jamie and Joseph, you know about you know,
what grace is and and bring them to their faith
to and to be a part of you know, back
but you know, strengthen their face over time too.
Speaker 1 (33:28):
And we've talked about it, Joe, and you know, people
go through broken places in their lives. I've had broken
places in mind and you've had yours as well. But
to know that God still loves me amidst that brokenness
is so helpful in moving forward in life.
Speaker 2 (33:43):
Yeah. I think it's a tough part there, you know,
but that tough is the luxury part there too we
get to enjoy is you know, him being with us
a as a you know abba father and you know
guide us to you know, day to day. And you know,
I think it also allowed me to be a different
person too, learning more about that you know word there
that we talk so much. It's small five letter word
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but still means so big there in our life. And
you know, I've enjoyed that part of it there and
you know it's kind of carried me through to today.
And you know, now I kind of surrounded myself with
some good people and good men. And you know, the
group I work out with is you know, it's called
F three and you know, faith, fellowship and fitness and
again the circle of trust at the end. And you know,
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a good prayer after a tough workout is pretty special
to be a part of there. And just those men
have helped me get through this, you know, being back
in Charlotte and growing the community a little bit more too.
So I'm pretty excited about I'm pretty passionate about, you know,
where I am. And you know, I'm learning now more
too about you know, giving, know, you know, just serving.
Speaker 1 (34:46):
You can't outgive God, and you know He just wants
to give back to us so that we can give
back to other people. That's what he loves to do.
And I know that's a serving heart that you have.
I've always appreciated your love for people and your desire
to care for other people.
Speaker 2 (34:59):
Yeah, and I try to attribute that to my mom
and she she loves kids, she loves you know, obviously
serving you know in a church in our community, and
that's probably where it came from. And it's a powerful,
you know, tool to have, you know, on your side
there to be a servant. And you know, I think
the more I serve and the more I give, you know,
whether it's my time or my my finances, you know
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it just you feel better at the end of the
day because of it. There. And you know again, you know,
this community here is you know, surrounding me in that
whole process there, and I've enjoyed that aspect of it
a lot.
Speaker 1 (35:32):
So you tell all the listeners right now, make sure
you take care of your bodies, exercise them, eat well,
all of those things. Make sure you take care of
your soul, you know, guard your emotions, be careful, making
sure you have friends and others you can share life with.
But also care for your spiritual life. Especially know that
beautiful word grace. You know how much God loves you
because when that is well, that makes the other parts
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of your body well too. And you've got this business now.
You started in Charlotte. One question I really wanted to
ask and forgot it was can children or teens come
and be a part of your new program that you're
doing with this barometric pressure stuff and all of that business.
Speaker 2 (36:06):
Yeah, I think always you know, a kid, you know,
probably as youngest, you know, nine or ten years old,
can you know, kind of depressurize their ears kind of
like going up in an airplane. As long as you
can regulate the ear pressure, we can accept them into
treatment there. And I do We do allow parents sometime
to go into chamber with the kid there too, to
you know, the kind of one get be comfortable with
the kid and start to communicate more so than we
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can you know from outside the chamber.
Speaker 1 (36:28):
But have you seen healing there with children as well?
Speaker 2 (36:31):
We've only had one small child in them so far,
and I think he was nine years old and you know,
he had a you know, kind of a broken lenk
there and I think he came once and you know,
he was in there with his dad for for ninety
minutes and I think he said not to come back yet.
Speaker 1 (36:44):
So children, children, Yeah, but still the hope of healing
is there, not only for adults but for children. And
when you're suffering physically, it really is good news to
know that there is some hope, and that's what you're
trying to offer.
Speaker 2 (36:56):
Yeah, from different conditions too, where from new law school
can addition to orthopedic injury, to wound healing, to you know,
a respiratory issues there. You know, there's a variety range
of things we can treat there. I did have a
pretty good story last week where we had a player
at a gentleman come in with some hearing loss and
he said he felt, you know, somebody's hearing come back
after tree treatments and I'm excited to hear about that.
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Just kind of a sudden loss of hearing with no
issues and no concern and no incident. But then you're
starting to come back to with the treat Your.
Speaker 1 (37:25):
Body wants to heal itself and sometimes it just needs
a little help abc way to do so so that
it can be made well again. Joe, one more time,
plug your website and let people know where they can
go in order to get some help.
Speaker 2 (37:38):
Absolutely, yeah, if you would come to www. Md Hyperbaric
dot com on the score Charlotte, that'll come right through
our website there. The whole general website continue gives you
all the conditions that we would you know, we can
sally care for and treat, but sometimes you can go
to three thirty five thirty five rand off Road in Charlotte,
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on G one hundred. You'll come right to our front door.
Speaker 1 (38:03):
And your name is Joe Sharp, s h RPE. And
if anybody wants to talk to you personally, they could
call their stef An appointment and come by and see
the good healing work that you're doing. Absolutely yes, Joe Sharp,
thank you so much for being with me today. Thank
you for your friendship of a couple of decades. Thank
you for who you are and the Lord and your
love for him. Thank you for who you are in
representing the King of Kings and the Lord of Lords
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and doing this great work of you that you're doing.
Speaker 2 (38:26):
Okay, thank you for the friendship, and thank you for
the opportune for your work today.
Speaker 1 (38:29):
And everybody, love God and love your neighbor. If you
do those two things, you have a lifetimes of work
to do. I'm David Chadwick. This is who's talking eleven
to the ninety ninety three w BT. Look forward to
talking with you all next week.
Hi everyone, I'm David Chadwick and this is Who's Talk
eleven ten nine nineteen WWT. You're welcome in the show.
In case you don't know, this as a faith and
values program that tries to intersect faith and values with
what's going on in our culture locally and globally. It's
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Many thanks to Perry's Find Jewelry for your sponsorship of
the show. Without you, I could not do this on
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a weekly basis. So I've been looking forward to today's
show for some time. My friend Joe Sharp has agreed
to be with me. He is a former overseer of
health and wellness for several NBA teams a couple of
college teams as well. I know it's a fascinating story
of all that he has learned through the years. So Joe,
I wanted you to be on the show to talk
about what you do some of the people you've encountered
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in the NBA through the years, but also what you're
doing now to help people get and stay well. Joe Sharp,
thanks for being with me.
Speaker 2 (00:57):
Well, David, thank you very much for the obviously to
friendship over the years as well as an opportunity to
be with you on the radio show today. It's quite
an honor. I'm excited about there and took export you know,
explore and give more of my personal history there. You know.
It started off, you know, as a dream in high
school where I had an opportunity to do a kind
of a term paper in sports medicine. Got lucky in
the undergrad and found you know, a role in athlete
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of training, and you know, from there the passion grew.
I did undergrad and grad school you know, on the
East Coast and Norfolk, Virginia and Oldaminion. Left Old Dominion
in ninety three to take a job at the University
of Connecticut with Jim Cahoun and his program there. And
that was, you know, a great, great experience in itself.
Speaker 1 (01:36):
And yeah, a lot of people don't realize that Yukon
has more national championships since nineteen ninety nine to the
day than any other school in the country, not Carolina,
not Duke, you know, not any other school except Yukon.
Speaker 2 (01:50):
Yeah, it's amazing. You know, small school, you know, Farm
Grant School in Connecticut has you know, six national championships
in such a short period of time there and you
know it all started back and you know, with the
dream of Jim Calhoun back in nineteen ninety eight eighty six.
I'm sorry when he took the job at Connecticut and
you know, just grew it. He's a you know, a
New England guy anyway, and just had a great, great
(02:11):
vision for the organization and the university and carried it
out too many championships himself and h and then passed
the torch show on to his former players and to
take a leisure back to that.
Speaker 1 (02:22):
Yeah, and you had no Mecca okafor on one of
the teams that you oversaw at Yukon.
Speaker 2 (02:27):
Yeah, I was fortunate to have a Mecca his freshman
year and he and Ben Gordon were together. Uh. They
were a great dynamic duo to have together as a
freshman year. And then after his freshman year, I moved
on to the NBA and took a job with the
Minnesota Timberwolves.
Speaker 1 (02:41):
How did that happen? Did you just apply for the
job when you saw it open or how did that occur?
Speaker 2 (02:46):
It was a weird thing. I was a year before
right after we went a championship in ninety nine with Connecticut.
I did kind of a volunteer opportunity for the combine
for the NBA in Chicago, and there I met you
know then now true good friend there and and then
you know Boss Greg Farnum. Greg, you know, thought about
me when he was looking through change his staff a
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little bit and he took the role from being an
assistant to the head and he was moving up and
he wanted to bring his own staff in and Greg
bring me a board for for two years or two years,
and you know, it was a great opportunity there too,
and to be along, you know, with Greg and the
staff there, and you know, the great player of Kevin Garnett.
He was, you know, a pretty intense guy in many levels,
but off the court he's he's a gentle giant.
Speaker 1 (03:27):
So really good player too, yeah, a really good player.
So so what happened after Minnesota? You went then to.
Speaker 2 (03:34):
Where I came to Charlotte for the first time. You know,
Bob catch for a brand new team and Bernie Baker
staff was you know, kind enough to bring me aboard
here to kind of do a startup. And you know,
it's a great opportunity to start something fresh in Charlotte.
I'd always had a dream of working in Charlotte over
the years, and as a student, and you know, having
a chance to see the Hornets play in Norfolk where
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I went to undergrad. But then you know, the opportunity
came about and then Bobcatch were here and you know,
was sorry the team here and I enjoyed that experience too,
from Bernie's opportunities to give here too.
Speaker 1 (04:05):
Yeah, so you're here. And obviously the Hornets pre Bobcats
that moved to New Orleans and claimed that name, the
New Orleans Hornets, which made absolutely no sense to anyone.
But then ultimately the name was brought back here. But
there's this interlude in between the two where they're called
this Charlotte Bobcats. How long did that happen.
Speaker 2 (04:23):
I think the Bobcats for around for about eight nine
years or so. I was here for four of those
years there, and then after I left, about five years
after I left, they got their naming rights back to
become the Hornets again with the colors and everything. So
again almost a transformation of a team there, you know,
from one city to her next. And just so Charlotte
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Hornets came back, and I think there was under the
direction of Michael. I think it was always his desire
to have the Hornets back in Charlotte there, and it
worked out pretty well there.
Speaker 1 (04:51):
So you got the Bobcats and then you leave the
Bobcats and where do you go from there?
Speaker 2 (04:55):
An opportunity to go join almost another startup there. We
went from a team moving from Seattle to Oklahoma City,
and when I first got there, it was the Oklahoma
City basketball team, and you know, it took a while,
and then when he finally nick named the rights of
naming the rights of Oklahoma City Thunder, and I had
a chance to win and start fresh a brand new
group there. We're bringing in again, a new team, a
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new staff, and everyone's moving to Oklahoma. And you know,
the people from Seattle a little heartbroken because they were
leaving Seattle, but they adopted and changed being you know,
Thunder quite a bit there.
Speaker 1 (05:29):
And that's under nickname. Doesn't it come from the storms
that come up during especially the summertime of the thunder
rattling and the potential tornadoes and all of that kind
of thing.
Speaker 2 (05:38):
Exactly, That's where it all came from there. And it's
ironically did they have a Roman Buffalo? Is there? Is
there thunder mascot explained.
Speaker 1 (05:45):
That one to me and my friend. That doesn't seem
to make much sense to me, But you were there
for the startup, and really those were bad teams as
they got started, just like most NBA teams to start
from scratch have not so good teams. But they got
better and better, didn't they.
Speaker 2 (05:59):
Yeah. There, it's a pretty good and small nucleus there
with you, Kevin Durant and Russell Westbrook and then you know,
James Harden Keemen. Those are the first three draft picks
for that team there, and.
Speaker 1 (06:09):
Not three bad players, are they exactly?
Speaker 2 (06:12):
Yeah, they got better over time, and then as they
got better, then they got you know, became more and
deeper into the playoffs and things like that. But good
opportunity to be there too with them.
Speaker 1 (06:21):
Well, it sounds like a wonderful situation with those three
guys especially, and I know you continue to have a
great friendship with Russell Westbrook who is there as well,
and that was something I know really interesting too.
Speaker 2 (06:33):
You.
Speaker 1 (06:33):
We'll talk about that when we come back, because I
want to get you to Charlotte if we possibly can.
Joe Sharp is my guest today. He's a wellness expert,
former NBA trainer, overseer of people's health. He's my guest.
We'll talk more about his life, his purpose, his mission
in just a moment. I'm David Chadwick, will be right back.
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Dear Jesus, help me to spread your fragrance. Every Hi, everybody.
I'm David Chadwick and this is News Talk eleven ten
ninet ninety three WBT. Welcome back to the show. If
you missed the first segment, my guest is Joe Sharp.
Joe is a for lack of a better word, Joe,
(07:50):
I know as trainer, but I know there's much more
involved with it. Talk about what it is exactly you
do in Layman's language, with your work in the NBA especially.
Speaker 2 (07:59):
Yeah, the biggest term is, you know, trainers can trade
many different ways there and you know the organization I
work with, you know, is called as truly an Athletic trainer,
and it's kind of a hyrid of many different things there,
with a little bit of an e n T, a
little bit of a physical therapist, with a little bit
of a primary care physician, and a little bit of
a northeedic physician.
Speaker 1 (08:18):
So it's sometimes counselor to the friends as well.
Speaker 2 (08:21):
And sometimes counselor as well. Yes, you never turn it right.
So it's I kind of appropriately have many different specialties
without being a specialist in one, and that's been a
nice part about it. You have a lot of flexibility
and to do with many off an area or two
and get to know a lot of different groups of
people too. Well.
Speaker 1 (08:38):
When we left in our last segment, we had you
in Oklahoma City right when they were beginning to get good.
I mean, they had some fairly good players like Kevin
Durant and others as well. Then they I think traded
away those guys some and then began another kind of
rebuild mode to where they won the NBA Championship last year.
Speaker 2 (08:56):
Yeah, they did. I mean I think, you know, the
first you know piece was a you know, in probably
in twenty thirteen, they traded away James Harden, who was
you know at previous year was six man in a
year and again a special guy to be around and
to see his talent, you know, come off the bench
and he accepted a role very well. And then later on,
you know, I think a few years later Kevin Durant
decided to leave and go to Golden State and you know,
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he won a few championships there and with Steph and
that group there. So I think that was a little
bit of heartbreak to the city and then that kind
of started to rebuild there. I mean, Russell was still
the final piece of the Big three that as they
call it the time there, and you know, I had
this chance to work with Russell one on one, you know,
for about ten years or so.
Speaker 1 (09:34):
Y'all are good friends. As I mentioned the first segment.
Speaker 2 (09:37):
Yeah, he's a he's a super nice guy and he's
you know, been a good friend for years there, and
you know, his family has been great, and we've had
a chance to you know, do some special things together,
especially you know, not only with the Oklahoma City Thunder,
but with USA Basketball as well. We did a trip
to Turkey for what you know, for the World Championship
at one point there, and then we did an Olympics
you know opportunity in twenty twelve and that was a
(09:57):
special opportunity also to be part of an Olympic te
there for you know, on two occasions there. But Russell's
a special guy, uh, even to this day, and you know,
he was the one of the few kids that would
actually take time and visit my kids, you know, for
what if a play or for for a hockey match
here and there, to watch my kids there. So he's
been you know, he's spilt close in the years of
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my heart there probably one of my top favorite point
guards to work with over the years.
Speaker 1 (10:20):
Is interesting, Well, now you're in Oklahoma City, but something's
churning within you. You had been in Charlotte with the Bobcats,
and now Michael owns the team and has returned the
Moniker Hornets to the team. What what caused you to
come to Charlotte and be a part of the Hornets.
Speaker 2 (10:35):
You know, it was an opportunity to go and get
closer to my mom. It was you know, agatting back
to I love the city of Charlotte itself there and
there's no doubt. And the first time I left and
uh wasn't wasn't say I was excited is to leave,
but it was an opportunity to kind of go somewhere else.
And some things have changed here. And you know, I
got a phone call from the physician group here and
they asked me if I wanted to, you know, be
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interested in giving him some guidance on how to put
together a staff here. So that's how the conversation started
over time, and then after being here the conversation, I said,
you know, I said, if you're interested, I mean, I'd
be willing to come back there. I mean, I love
Oklahoma City. They're not kicking me out, but you know,
opportunity to grow something back in Charlotte again, I'd love
to do it again if possible. There. They had a discussion,
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but you know, with Michael that was okay to bring
me back for an interview. And I interviewed here with
Mitch cup Check and who's become a dear friend over
the last couple of years here and and after the
interview with Mitch, and you know, I think everything went well,
and he gave me an opportunity to come back this way.
And you know, I was going to come back, and
my family's going to enjoy because we had some property
out this way also still, and we wanted to kind
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of come back and be close to it. And you know,
both my wife at the time and I had Asian parents,
so you know, to keep me closer was you know,
really a great opportunity also and very very very appealing there,
and so we came back. I came back here and
then she had to over oversee and lead the Hornets
to try to put together a pretty good performance staff.
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You know, can go from my first time here of
staff of three to now, you know, when I first
I left there recently tour staff of eight. It's you know,
pretty good, you know, opportunity to grow, and we were
doing some really good things I think with the team
over time and getting some good response you know, over
over the years too, which was good.
Speaker 1 (12:20):
Well, you were here for how many years altogether with
the Hornets the second time?
Speaker 2 (12:25):
Six years the second time, okay.
Speaker 1 (12:28):
And your favorite hornet being here over the last six
years or so.
Speaker 2 (12:34):
You know, I probably have to say a Mecca a
mecha ocal four because I had him in college and
then we you know, spent you know four years together
after college, you know, and here and he was a
different person. Uh, And I recently saw him years ago
unfortunately a set event in Oklahoma and Monty Williams's wife
passed away. But uh, it was just like you know,
Mec and I had never you know been apart for
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you know, several years. We kind of reconnected and you know,
caught right back up. And I think we had a
meal together, and you know, just spend some more time together.
So I think a Mecca's probably my fast. Probably spent
more time with a Mecca than anyone else too, in
any other hornets, because he had a pretty rigorous routine
of stretching before and after games. And I happen to be,
you know, the bearer of that most of the time.
Speaker 1 (13:13):
So, so tell us about your job. What you have
to do with these elite athletes who have to stay
at peak performance in order to keep their paychecks where
they are. What do you do to help make them
the best they can be?
Speaker 2 (13:30):
Well, I think the good opportunity there too is you know,
everyone's unique, So I think, you know one, learning of
personality is a big part of it there, and then
how to approach them, you know, one on one, you know,
And people always ask me, is it difficult working with
someone who is a super athlete? And I would say
no most of the time there, And I say what
I say no is because it's just like you and I.
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I mean, they just want to be cared for and
taken care of without a whole lot of hoopla. They
have enough of that. You know, whether it's on the
court or off the court, whatever it may be. But
you know, when you have them one on one on
the table, there is a good opportunity for good deep
conversation with them one on one as well as get
to know their bodies, you know, because you treat them,
you know the good things. We have access to them
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really year round, you know, whereas in college you have
a certain limitations on how much time you can spend
with them, and then there's a limited number of days
and a year or two you have with them. But
you know, in professional sports, I mean whether you're with
them in season in your facility or in their off
season in their hometown or their city where they live,
you have access to them. And I think that's how
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the bond are build there. And you get probably four
or five athletes like that over time per season to
build that bond with there. And so you know everything
about those four or five you know, players at a
high level there and and then you you know anything
that comes up. You know. My goal with them was
to tell them is it, don't hide anything, tell me
about in advance of it happening, because small problems become
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big problems if we don't know about them.
Speaker 1 (14:54):
So you would you would help with things like sleep
and things like eating rightly obviously, and things like stretching
with is so important as well. I mean, you try
to pay attention to the most minute detail in order
for them to be at peak performance.
Speaker 2 (15:05):
Absolutely, yes, And you know, again, if I don't have
the answer, which sometimes they don't, you know, manytimes they don't,
I would always find an expert in the field. There.
We bring in sleep experts to talk to the team
or talk to the players kind of one on one.
We have dietitians and we around the players, and then
you know, we have people just monitoring things too, you know,
from you know, because sports scientists are kind of monitoring
what the players are doing, how much you're doing, and
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why they're doing it there. So it's it's a it's
a big task there, it's a fun task and it's
come of you know, putting all the pieces of the
puzzle together there. And as we do that, the you know,
players can hopefully be a peak performance at all times there.
And as we you know, and there's there is there
peak performance there, then obviously the fans benefit from seeing
the player. You know. It really just played their talent
over time.
Speaker 1 (15:46):
Yeah, you know, Joe, I've had the privilege of doing
a few great you know players, either basketball or baseball
or whatever, and oftentimes these guys get labeled prima Donna's.
But what I've discovered is they're really just like you
and me. They may be even a little more shy
because they have to be so public most often, but
in their personal time, they're really just very down to
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earth and good people. Have you discovered that as well?
Speaker 2 (16:11):
Absolutely, Yeah, for the most part there. I mean they're
really they like to they like their privacy, and I
understand because one, they're always on public display. I mean,
if it's you and I can go to a restaurant,
no one you know better I But if they go
to a restaurant, whether it's you know, McDonald's or a
five star restaurant there, or they're going to be you know,
one dog that you know, maybe ask for an autograph
or bother there, even going to a grocery store, just
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picking up gas at the gas station. I mean, people
want to just spend time with them there. And but
I think one on one behind the you know when
they called the lights are off, they just like you
and I just want to, you know, get to know you.
You know, they have a good conversation with you, and
they want to get to know you. Wanted to get
to know them too as well, and that's when you
know the bonds really connect their you know, outside of
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the line right there.
Speaker 1 (16:56):
Well, you have their medical charts, you have their eating habits.
I'm sure you know some of their relational issues that
are going on in their lives. Because there's nothing that
will affect a performance worse than if your girlfriend rejects
you or whatever. You have to deal with all of
that as well, like a super counselor too.
Speaker 2 (17:10):
Yep, I'm always on guard there, so you always be
ready to answer any questions and guide us appropriately there.
So that's been kind of a unique part and the
puzzle there to put together for those guys. Wow.
Speaker 1 (17:21):
Well, Joe Sharp is my guest today, just years as
a wellness trainer expert with NBA teams and most recently
with the Charlotte Hornets. Just talking about his life. Joe,
when we come back, let's talk about, you know, some
of the particulars of your life right now, what you're
going through, and also let's talk about your faith because
that's an important part of your life as well, and
I think people would love to hear that part of
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who you are as well, this especially being a faith
in values program. Joe Sharp my guest. I'm David Chadwick
and we will be right back.
Speaker 2 (18:30):
Away. Don't know how much you did it.
Speaker 1 (18:37):
Hi, everyone, I'm David Chadwick and missus News Talk eleven ten,
nineteen ninety three WBT, Welcome back to the show. If
you'd like to hear the program in its entirety with
my friend Joe Sharp, who has been at high levels
of being a trainer, wellness expert overseer with NBA teams
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Show and you can listen from beginning to end with
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just a few commercials. Joe again, is great having you
on the show, and during our break you were sharing
with me some things that I've forgotten and I'd be
stupid if I didn't cover with you. The twenty twelve
Olympic team. You were the trainer wellness expert overseer for
the kids for the players' health. Talk about that twenty
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twelve Olympic team.
Speaker 2 (19:21):
It was a special team to be a part of there.
And you know, it was the I call it the
All Star of All Stars for having the twelve I
call it the best players in the world on your side,
and you almost had an advantage going into that. You
know again, event there he was you know, well, you know,
if you look at the team itself, and there was
you know, Lebron you know, he was prettill playing the NBA. Ironically,
Chris Paul was still in the NBA unfortunately, you know,
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passing of Kobe Bryant. You know, to have those three
big names together, Kevin Durant, Russell Westbrook and James Harden
who actually owned the Thunder at the time together or
on that team together, Darren Williams who was a great
point guard over the year. Andrea Gondala was on that
team also, and kame Olal Anthony you know, was really big.
Speaker 1 (20:06):
Oh kind of throw in Anthony there, one of the
greatest efforts himself.
Speaker 2 (20:11):
Yeah, exactly. So it was. It was the All Star
of All Star that I think for teams. And it's
probably the most talent team I've ever been around. And
you know, again, I didn't say I had to do
a whole lot of work because they were just self driven,
very well motivated by themselves and all of it would
just show up and really, you know, really just kind
of help with with anything I could, you know, on
on the quarter, off the court, whatever I need to
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be helped with there with the USA Basketball organization there,
and and also had a good chance opportunity to get
to know coach k from Due quite a bit there.
Speaker 1 (20:41):
And and you think he's a great coach, don't you.
I mean, I hate to admit it, but I think
he is.
Speaker 2 (20:46):
Yeah, I agree with that one. And uh, he's he's
a good coach. And he's a really good person too.
I think he's probably a better person he is a coach.
And you know, even Jim Baheim, who's another Hall of
Fame coach, to get a chance to work with him
a little bit too and get to know him, because
you know, my years Connecticut, I was never you know,
anywhere I was. I was in the opposite sideline. And
I've heard Jim Cajuns say some good things about Jim
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beheimen es Syracuse. Yeah, so it was a good opportunity
to kind of get to know him a little bit
there too.
Speaker 1 (21:11):
These elite, elite athletes, the very best of the best.
Do they have a special desire to take care of
their bodies more than others?
Speaker 2 (21:19):
Do you think? I do think so too, and they
that's why they're at that level there, and it's sustainable. Also,
I mean, you look at the names I mentioned, and
they've had long NBA careers or still having own long
NBA careers and have been very successful and very productive
in those years. Also, so it isn't very surprise that
you know, Lebron is, you know in year number twenty two,
I think it is of this year. And he's a
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special person to be around. And you know, Lebron's was
very wise early on in his career. He hired one
person to work with him with every year everywhere he's been.
So that's been kind of special to see over the years.
And I never had a chance to watch him off
the court very much, but his on court work was unbelievable.
Speaker 1 (21:58):
His body is just unbelievable. Well to play for twenty
two years like he has, it's just absolutely fascinating. Well,
let me ask you this, are you concerned about the
gambling stuff that's sorts recently come out with the NBA,
and I think it's all sports and I'll give my
card on the table. Yeah, I'm really concerned because how
do you control anything like this and it is an addiction,
like you well knows as someone who's been in the
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NBA and worked at that highest level possible.
Speaker 2 (22:22):
Yeah, I think it's concerned there too. And I think,
you know, as as we talked about the integrity of
the game could be compromised because of it there and
you know, where does the stop. Is it a poker
game or is it true gambling on the game itself?
Speaker 1 (22:32):
And are guys throwing games and points spreads and those
kind of things? Wow, that really does get dangerous.
Speaker 2 (22:38):
Yeah, and I'm I'm not saying that's happening, but you
know I did is concern and I understand you know,
Adam's you know, concerned with that too. You know, the
integrity there, and you know, we know we're looking back
if you go back to you know, years ago, you
looking at the Pete Rose situation. You know, I'm not
sure I'm not saying that we're there with the game,
especially with the NBA, but there is a little concern there.
You know, I do worry about you know again what
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word's heading to and who's going to be you know,
uncovered in this whole aspect there too. And you know
there'll be some people that I think, you know, we'll
be surprised over the years and because more is coming,
I think over time, and that'll be the sad part
there is to see.
Speaker 1 (23:11):
Well, you've opened the door and you've made it not
only legal, but you've made it accessible even with a
guy scoring a number of points in the fourth quarter
or not. I mean, it's just crazy. What is happening
with the whole gambling industry right now? Just a billions
upon billions of dollar industry. Well, Joe, let me shift
gears on you right now. What a fascinating life you've
had and all kinds of experiences. What are you doing now?
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You're you're not in the NBA, but yet you're still
in healthcare and wellness ministry.
Speaker 2 (23:38):
Yeah, you know, I had an opportunity to was introduced
to it's it's called hyperbaric oxygen therapy. I was introduced
to it about three or four years ago with one
of my players who had surgery up in New York
and immediately after surgery went into a hyperbaric oxygen chamber,
and so basically you're you're being delivered pure oxygen through
a mask medical greade oxygen and then you're also in
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an FD air prooved chamber that's compressed with ambient air
and that process it can lasting we're from sixty to
ninety minutes or so, and we're in the process now
of adding air brakes too, because you know, the air
brakes one there's a preventative measure there too from being
you know, from oxygen toxicity. But it's also there's an
off gassing during that air brake too, so where a
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body's absorbed a lot of oxygen through the process of
being compressed and breathing pure oxygen, but also now once
you take the oxygen away, now use some off gas,
and so it goes deep into the tissue down to
the plasma level there, salular level. So it's it's pretty
neat in that aspect there too. And it's used for
about you know, thirteen or so label uses by the FDA,
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and there's another fourteen or so off label uses that
you know, we may see just in general you know,
general wellness there too. So you know, it's I think
it's for you know, anyone in acute injury or illness anywhere,
from long term illnesses conditions to just general wellness, just
to kind of feel better about you know, how do
you feel in your body? And you know, with no
illnesses at all. So it's it's a it's a pretty
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unique concept there, and you know, I had a chance
to be a part of that and bring a franchise
to Charlotte there uh this year, and you know it
was a you know, it was a great transition from
the NBA, but it also still keeps me in the
healthcare industry as well as you know, serving others too
in the process.
Speaker 1 (25:23):
And I ever enjoy that that's a part of your faith,
which we'll get to in just a second too. But
if anyone's interested in knowing more about what you're doing,
want to contact you might have some long standing chronic illnesses,
what would they do?
Speaker 2 (25:35):
You know, I probably start off with the website. You know,
we had to have a website. It's called MD Hyperbaric,
you know Amazon Mary d is a doctor, and then
Hyperbaric dot com And we're one of nine franchises right
now in the US, and and then they can go
to and look at different conditions that we would treat.
Some are on label off label, they're both all are
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generated on the website itself, and there's also information how
to get in contact whatever. Clinic here is Charlotte, and
we'd love to have you come by just once a
tour of the facility as well as maybe you know,
be treating with this also.
Speaker 1 (26:06):
And just do a consultation as well to maybe to
begin the process. You know, I am a minister and
I love God's word as you know. But God made
the body to heal itself and if you can get
some help from some different agencies, that's what God would will,
I think, is to make you healthy and well again,
and that's what you want to do.
Speaker 2 (26:23):
I hope, so yeah, hopeing that part and the best
part too is is oxygen. We're breathing oxygen every day.
We're just delivering more oxygen to the body. And why
is utilizing it and once it gets it and from
the healing process I call it from the inside out
there and I think that's the unique part there. We're
not using medication to do what you know, again, what's
natural anyway, and we're just hoping to ate it a
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little bit there and you know, I'm not saying we're
a cure all well, we can, you know, I think
we see enhancement with you know basis we're treating so far.
Speaker 1 (26:51):
Yeah, and I love the fact that so much of
it has almost a natural feel to it, that you're
using the stuff God put into his creation and just
maybe my magnifying and making more intense, but helping that
help make people well too.
Speaker 2 (27:04):
Absolutely, yeah, And that's the whole part there too, And
that's why I fell in, you know, really like this
particular type of treatment there, and there isn't you know.
It's new and unique and it's kind of like, you know,
I call it a little bit off a left field there,
but I think once people become more aware of it there,
it's going to be a pretty big thing for the
area here. And I think Charlotte's great community for it
there too. It's a it's a very healthy community there.
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You other people like to do with things outdoors, so
this kind of goes along with that particular type of
treatment there too, you know, with the healthy community here
in Charlotte.
Speaker 1 (27:33):
What about the street address if anybody's interested.
Speaker 2 (27:35):
Yeah, if it's we're off Rando off Road three five
three five rand Off Road. We're kind of in the basement,
kind of by ourselves. I think we get confused there.
There's another group that's you know above us, you know,
same suite number Sweet one hundred, but we're G one hundred,
so G's and ground one hundred there. So if you
get to thirty five thirty five Randoff Road and go
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to G one hundred and come right in. The doors
are always open welcome. Yes, at any time we do tours,
you know, whether we're treating someone and not treating someone,
and we're always available to the tours.
Speaker 1 (28:06):
I'm always interested in Elijah, the great Old Testament prophet
who had a huge disappointment in life and thought he
was going to die and ran and fell down and
basically said to God, I'm ready to die. And God
comes to him through an angelic appearance, and the first
thing he does was put him to sleep, and then
he awakened him and then gave him water, and then
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he put him back to sleep again. You know, before
he got too spiritual, he said, get some good sleep
and make sure you're drinking enough water.
Speaker 2 (28:37):
That's half the battle right there. Dehydrated there, and I
think you know, you know, even when their facility there too.
If you want to take a nap in chamber while
you're getting oxygen, I think it's very important to do
so too, and which we did. Most people do.
Speaker 1 (28:47):
Interesting. And the third thing he did was he gave
him angels food, which is probably the food of angels
in heaven, which means it's perfectly nutritious. The first thing
he did was he corrected his diet and make sure
that he ate well. So you know, a lot of
the solutions that we have in life are just some
simple things that God wants us to do. Joe sharp Is,
my guest, has a great history of sports, oversight with
medicine and other things as well. Joe, when we come back,
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I want to hear about your faith, just your meaningfulness
and your walk with the Lord, because you know we
are body, soul and spirit and all three need to
be taken care of as well. I'm David Chadwick and
we will be right back, but I live to ship.
(29:46):
Oh my life. Hi everyone, I'm David Chadwick and this
is News Talk eleven, ten ninety nine three WBT. Welcome
back to the show. In case you're just jumping on board,
my guest This is Joe Sharp, who has a multiple
experiences with college programs, NBA programs as a trainer type
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wellness overseer of athletes health and wholeness, and has actually
started a business here in Charlotte as well to help
do the very things he learned as a professional dealing
with the highest level athletes possible. Joe, before we get
there one more time and let you plug what you're
doing today. Your faith has been very real to you.
You know, we talked a little bit all fair, how
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in the Bible we are body, soul, and spirit. And
if your spirit is connected to your body, for example,
which it is, if your body is not healthy, it's
going to affect your spiritual life. And if your soul,
which is your mind, your will, and your emotions, if
those are off whack, that's going to affect your spiritual
life and also your body as well. So getting all
three well in a wholeness mentality is so important. So
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you have talked earlier in the program about the importance
of bodily health and also dealing with your emotions making
sure on top of all of that, but let's talk
about this virtual life as well. Talk about your own faith.
Speaker 2 (31:02):
You know, what David, and probably you know, I, I
guess gave myself to God probably when I was thirteen
years old. I was probably one of the last things
my father saw me do. My father passed when I
was younger, shortly very young, also at a young age there.
Speaker 1 (31:17):
And that's your love for your mom right now, like
they do.
Speaker 2 (31:22):
Yeah, mom has been mom and dad for for obviously
several decades now, and she's been you know, my rock,
and you know, to watch her grow up in the
church and watch her and my dad kind of grow
together in the church there too, was you know, something
I didn't understand at the time. And then I went
through college and then got away from my faith a
little bit. But then probably my biggest you know move
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to kind of go overboard even more for faith there
is when I got here in two thousand and five,
I heard about grace, which I heard I was, you know,
in your other church there and.
Speaker 1 (31:56):
One of my favorite words, I mean, if it's not true,
don't tell me that God loves me unconditionally and He's
not going to stop loving me because He just loves me.
And getting in touch with that enormous grace of God
has overcome most every obstacle I've ever faced in life,
I think for you.
Speaker 2 (32:12):
Too, yeah, absolutely, And you know, I've probably learned about
grace probably the most from you personally. And I think
we had a Bible study together too my first time here,
and you know, some grou group of men, and I
heard it again. I heard the red grace again over
and over again. And and then I moved and I
took my faith to Oklahoma with me, and you know,
grace was you know, even more I talked about there.
Speaker 1 (32:32):
There's a lot of strong churches in Oklahoma City, I know.
Speaker 2 (32:35):
Yeah, and I had a chance to attend two of
them there, and you know, just really you know, just
enjoy the opportunity there too, and get to connect with
the men there also. And I think, you know, going
through you know, some trials in life, and you know, again,
you know, when I came back to Charlotte, you know,
back in twenty twenty eighteen, I obviously went through a
life change event there too, with a separation from you know,
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former wife, and again I still heard the word grace,
and I think that was probably the key thing that
kind of got me through. And it's kind of you
know what my kind of home I had on now
too is in probably over the years and you know
my goal now too if I can you know, obviously
continue to experience that grace, but also teach my kids,
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you know, Jamie and Joseph, you know about you know,
what grace is and and bring them to their faith
to and to be a part of you know, back
but you know, strengthen their face over time too.
Speaker 1 (33:28):
And we've talked about it, Joe, and you know, people
go through broken places in their lives. I've had broken
places in mind and you've had yours as well. But
to know that God still loves me amidst that brokenness
is so helpful in moving forward in life.
Speaker 2 (33:43):
Yeah. I think it's a tough part there, you know,
but that tough is the luxury part there too we
get to enjoy is you know, him being with us
a as a you know abba father and you know
guide us to you know, day to day. And you know,
I think it also allowed me to be a different
person too, learning more about that you know word there
that we talk so much. It's small five letter word
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but still means so big there in our life. And
you know, I've enjoyed that part of it there and
you know it's kind of carried me through to today.
And you know, now I kind of surrounded myself with
some good people and good men. And you know, the
group I work out with is you know, it's called
F three and you know, faith, fellowship and fitness and
again the circle of trust at the end. And you know,
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a good prayer after a tough workout is pretty special
to be a part of there. And just those men
have helped me get through this, you know, being back
in Charlotte and growing the community a little bit more too.
So I'm pretty excited about I'm pretty passionate about, you know,
where I am. And you know, I'm learning now more
too about you know, giving, know, you know, just serving.
Speaker 1 (34:46):
You can't outgive God, and you know He just wants
to give back to us so that we can give
back to other people. That's what he loves to do.
And I know that's a serving heart that you have.
I've always appreciated your love for people and your desire
to care for other people.
Speaker 2 (34:59):
Yeah, and I try to attribute that to my mom
and she she loves kids, she loves you know, obviously
serving you know in a church in our community, and
that's probably where it came from. And it's a powerful,
you know, tool to have, you know, on your side
there to be a servant. And you know, I think
the more I serve and the more I give, you know,
whether it's my time or my my finances, you know
(35:20):
it just you feel better at the end of the
day because of it. There. And you know again, you know,
this community here is you know, surrounding me in that
whole process there, and I've enjoyed that aspect of it
a lot.
Speaker 1 (35:32):
So you tell all the listeners right now, make sure
you take care of your bodies, exercise them, eat well,
all of those things. Make sure you take care of
your soul, you know, guard your emotions, be careful, making
sure you have friends and others you can share life with.
But also care for your spiritual life. Especially know that
beautiful word grace. You know how much God loves you
because when that is well, that makes the other parts
(35:52):
of your body well too. And you've got this business now.
You started in Charlotte. One question I really wanted to
ask and forgot it was can children or teens come
and be a part of your new program that you're
doing with this barometric pressure stuff and all of that business.
Speaker 2 (36:06):
Yeah, I think always you know, a kid, you know,
probably as youngest, you know, nine or ten years old,
can you know, kind of depressurize their ears kind of
like going up in an airplane. As long as you
can regulate the ear pressure, we can accept them into
treatment there. And I do We do allow parents sometime
to go into chamber with the kid there too, to
you know, the kind of one get be comfortable with
the kid and start to communicate more so than we
(36:27):
can you know from outside the chamber.
Speaker 1 (36:28):
But have you seen healing there with children as well?
Speaker 2 (36:31):
We've only had one small child in them so far,
and I think he was nine years old and you know,
he had a you know, kind of a broken lenk
there and I think he came once and you know,
he was in there with his dad for for ninety
minutes and I think he said not to come back yet.
Speaker 1 (36:44):
So children, children, Yeah, but still the hope of healing
is there, not only for adults but for children. And
when you're suffering physically, it really is good news to
know that there is some hope, and that's what you're
trying to offer.
Speaker 2 (36:56):
Yeah, from different conditions too, where from new law school
can addition to orthopedic injury, to wound healing, to you know,
a respiratory issues there. You know, there's a variety range
of things we can treat there. I did have a
pretty good story last week where we had a player
at a gentleman come in with some hearing loss and
he said he felt, you know, somebody's hearing come back
after tree treatments and I'm excited to hear about that.
(37:18):
Just kind of a sudden loss of hearing with no
issues and no concern and no incident. But then you're
starting to come back to with the treat Your.
Speaker 1 (37:25):
Body wants to heal itself and sometimes it just needs
a little help abc way to do so so that
it can be made well again. Joe, one more time,
plug your website and let people know where they can
go in order to get some help.
Speaker 2 (37:38):
Absolutely, yeah, if you would come to www. Md Hyperbaric
dot com on the score Charlotte, that'll come right through
our website there. The whole general website continue gives you
all the conditions that we would you know, we can
sally care for and treat, but sometimes you can go
to three thirty five thirty five rand off Road in Charlotte,
(38:00):
on G one hundred. You'll come right to our front door.
Speaker 1 (38:03):
And your name is Joe Sharp, s h RPE. And
if anybody wants to talk to you personally, they could
call their stef An appointment and come by and see
the good healing work that you're doing. Absolutely yes, Joe Sharp,
thank you so much for being with me today. Thank
you for your friendship of a couple of decades. Thank
you for who you are and the Lord and your
love for him. Thank you for who you are in
representing the King of Kings and the Lord of Lords
(38:24):
and doing this great work of you that you're doing.
Speaker 2 (38:26):
Okay, thank you for the friendship, and thank you for
the opportune for your work today.
Speaker 1 (38:29):
And everybody, love God and love your neighbor. If you
do those two things, you have a lifetimes of work
to do. I'm David Chadwick. This is who's talking eleven
to the ninety ninety three w BT. Look forward to
talking with you all next week.
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