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Speaker 1 (00:01):
Okay, we could get started with Jordan.
Speaker 2 (00:06):
Thank Kevin, thanks for doing us today. Oh, no problem,
can you hear us?
Speaker 1 (00:11):
Okay, it's kind of low. I don't know if that's
I got it all.
Speaker 2 (00:24):
I'm good, Okay, cool, Thank you. Just you know your
journey this season, I mean, from joining the team last
year in the summer and then kind of just getting
up to speed, becoming a starter, signing the deal. Now
you're the only offensive lineman who so far has not
missed a snap or missed any time, even though we
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are aware you've been working through some stuff as well.
Why has it been so important to you to become,
I guess a foundational person within this group? And what
has that been like for you to be into a new,
newer place, relatively speaking, and emerge as a leader within
that place.
Speaker 1 (01:07):
You know, I believe I believe.
Speaker 3 (01:12):
It was kind of just kind of my duty to
start being a little more vocal. Fel like I've done
a good amount of time of learning on the people
and stuff like that, but I feel like it's my
time to start trying to give back, start making my impact,
start thinking about legacies things like that.
Speaker 2 (01:35):
And Sean, over the last year and a half, and
especially when you came in last year and they drafted
Steve and then building the line out the way that
they have injuries aside, Sean has really emphasized wanting to
re establish like a physicality and an identity some of
the gap and duo stuff you guys started doing last
year as well. I guess what is your impression of
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that and how that has grown as an identity within
the offensive line and even with injuries. How do you
continue to establish that despite there being lots of moving
parts in the in the past several weeks.
Speaker 1 (02:13):
That kind of has to go with the cohesiveness of
the office. A line.
Speaker 3 (02:18):
Everybody who's in the room has to be close enough
to be a plug in piece for our office. A
line to be an efficient officer line we can't have
if one person gets hurt, and we can't be afraid
to put somebody in there and be able to work
next to whoever they are next to.
Speaker 1 (02:39):
Could you give me the first question again? I skipped it.
Speaker 2 (02:43):
Yeah, what No, You're all right? It was I asked
a very way too long question. So I appreciate you.
Just you know, how have you seen that identity with
the physicality grow over the last year that you got here.
Speaker 3 (02:58):
I think it's I think people realize how much it
changes a game to be a physical as we need
to be. Like, the more physical the game, the more
impact on blocking, emphasis on running and things like that,
the more that we can run the ball, the more
we can kind of dominate our opponent. The more chances
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we have to do that. I feel like that's the
better chance of winning. I think everybody can feel that,
feel that when we go our hardest and we have
a real physical game, most of the time we win.
Speaker 1 (03:35):
And I think it's just more people starting to notice
this and.
Speaker 2 (03:39):
Then alast for me, a slight pivot. But Bo has
mentioned that you have helped him out a lot in
uploading some of the protection calls especially and double checking
with you even nonverbally, like if maybe he needs a
double check on something Matthew says or something he sees.
What's that process like for you, and how if it
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all had you seen him grow into the role?
Speaker 3 (04:02):
You know, for a guard, the best thing you can
have is a center who knows all the information. And
I always use that as a thing. For me, it's
kind of like my job to just be able to
remind people. You know, even if I'm not truly you know,
the center mostly gives us our direction, calls and stuff
like that. So if I can give him all the information,
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I think I have the confidence of anybody that we
have as center on knowing us to do with the information.
So I'm just kind of a relay person, guard and tackle,
just just make sure everybody knows what to do.
Speaker 2 (04:38):
Thanks Kevin M.
Speaker 4 (04:45):
Garry, Hey, Kevin, thank you for doing this. Oh yeah,
I know you have confidence and no matter who is
playing next to you on the right side, But I'm
curious what it means when you do have Rob Havenstein
there on the on the right.
Speaker 3 (05:05):
Yeah, I feel like it gives the whole officer line
just a little more confidence. You know, he is he
is the leader of our officer line, and having him there,
you know, it gives us, uh that stability, that that
rock that we know that we can call on them,
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call on him during the situation, just because you know,
he has so much, you know, just history in the
game already and he has very good recall, very smart.
Having him next to you makes the game a lot easier.
He's great in a run too.
Speaker 1 (05:42):
Uh. I feel like when me and him on the
we don't. It doesn't matter who's in that.
Speaker 3 (05:46):
Gap if me and him are blocking him, So you know,
it is a big help for me when Rob is
on the field.
Speaker 4 (05:53):
Thanks very much, appreciate it, Stu.
Speaker 1 (06:00):
Hey Kennon.
Speaker 5 (06:00):
We recently got to see your personality and enjoy for
playing football on display when you were miked up not
too long ago. For you, where do those things come from?
As far as just the fun that you have playing
this game.
Speaker 3 (06:13):
I think that's one of the things that keep me
keep me going, is just that I really do have
fun playing the game. I love to be in the game.
I love to watch my film. I like to see
myself do good. So, you know, the better that I
can play, the more enjoyment I get from seeing myself
do good.
Speaker 1 (06:33):
And I know that people are watching, all my family
are watching. Those things keep me going.
Speaker 5 (06:44):
And a quick follow up question, just the we also
saw the I think it's a jump shot celebration that
you and the other offensive linemen do from time to time.
What inspired that and where'd that come?
Speaker 1 (06:56):
I don't know, really, there's no real history behind it.
Speaker 3 (06:59):
What they just did it for one of the We're
at practice and we scored on something and you know,
I just did it and it just became a thing.
There's no real real history behind it. But we can
do it in our uh. You know the times that
we can you know, celebrate and be together as one
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and stuff like that.
Speaker 1 (07:23):
We will use anything, it doesn't matter. You appreciate.
Speaker 3 (07:31):
By it.
Speaker 6 (07:33):
Than Kevin h offense has had a lot of success
with play action this year, UH as an interior alignment.
What are the most important things that you have to
do to make sure that the offense can execute those
players at a high level.
Speaker 3 (07:48):
You know, knowing where to be is probably the main thing.
And then being able to make the play seem like
a play that you've run before, you know, like a
run you wanted to sound the same. Sometimes you add
a little extra grunt to make it seem like you're
going harder than you you really are, you know, just
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to entice the linebackers.
Speaker 1 (08:12):
Things like that, thing that you can do to help
the play.
Speaker 3 (08:16):
But you know, the main thing is knowing what to
do and knowing what the protocol is for whatever is
about to happen in these defensive fronts, knowing what gap
you would have, knowing what person you initially have and
what person you could help if this thing leaves you.
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It's just, you know, it's a thing that we have
to take pride in because if you don't do it well,
it doesn't look right and it doesn't do what it's
intended to.
Speaker 1 (08:50):
So that's really what we try to get done.
Speaker 6 (08:55):
And you've been very consistent this whole year, just not
just in terms of health, but you know with your play.
But in the last few weeks it seems like you've really,
you know, hit your stride and and you know, gone
above and beyond it the in the second level of
defense on runs and that sort of thing. Do you
feel like you've you've hit your stride and and you
know what kind of takes you to that to that
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next year.
Speaker 3 (09:16):
I think just the overall of what we've done this year,
it gives me more and more confidence. The more I
get to do a play, the more confidence I feel.
Speaker 1 (09:31):
I've been coming back.
Speaker 3 (09:32):
My ankles aren't hurting as much as they were at
the beginning of the year, and it just makes me
feel play with more confidence.
Speaker 1 (09:40):
Uh, not feeling that pain on the interior part of
my ankle.
Speaker 3 (09:43):
It just it makes me let's me play a little faster,
a little stronger, put more force into the ground without
being scared of uh, you know, going too hard or
anything like that.
Speaker 6 (09:57):
Thank you, yeah, and then.
Speaker 7 (09:59):
We'll wrap up with Adam Evan's last game was the
first time you guys have had the full offensive line
healthy or at you know, as healthy as you can
be twelve games into the season. What do you think
that means for this group now as you try to
push towards a playoff spot and can finally start to
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build some of that tackle to tackle consinerity.
Speaker 3 (10:27):
I think we're just you know, the more we get
to play together, I always say, the more we get
to play together, the more we jail And I think
having us together and being able to even see what
we can get done when we are playing together makes people,
you know, play a little more, a little harder, you know,
play through some injuries, stuff like that. So it jails
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us together even more. The more we get to play together,
and we know, hanging out outside of just football, getting
that continuity, getting that trust, getting that the things that
we try to earn on Sunday, being able to play
with full confidence, knowing that our brothers have our backs.
Speaker 7 (11:12):
How was it playing back in Louisiana yesterday.
Speaker 1 (11:16):
Well, it was great.
Speaker 3 (11:17):
I had a bunch of family come, probably twenty thirty
people that I know total or something like that, and
we It just felt good to have them in the stand,
get to see all my people and they all get
to see me play. I think it definitely added to
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my game on Sunday. It's always good to have family there.
Speaker 7 (11:44):
Give you a little extra juice with that hug for kiring.
Speaker 1 (11:47):
In the end zone. Yeah, yeah, cool, appreciate you, Kevin, You.
Speaker 5 (11:53):
Sir, right, Adam you on to go ahead and kick
as off?
Speaker 7 (11:59):
Yeah, Bobby, can you us through that third down run
stuff from the last drive yesterday?
Speaker 3 (12:06):
Honestly, Bro, I was just mad. That's pretty much it.
I was just mad and was trying to hip the
team win. So I'm just had the channeling and go
make a play mad at seventy what's that seventy penny?
Speaker 1 (12:25):
Okay? So he suck and you want to be a
dirty clb got it?
Speaker 7 (12:33):
After the performance the defense had last week, you know,
with Saquon doing what he did, what do you feel
like that meant for the defense just as a whole
to get that stuff, that critical stuff there on third
down and set up the winning play.
Speaker 1 (12:50):
Well.
Speaker 3 (12:51):
I will say what Takuon did last week was other
worlds got to give credit with credit had a great game.
But I will also say we played into the hands
of the fact of uh we gave a lot. We
didn't play sound defense, we didn't play our technique jumping
in and out of gaps, and they're a good team
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and we got exposed. So this week, just turning in
on a little key details and playing within the scheme
and the framework and the things we practice every week
was key and it helped us on the third now
start Thanks Bobby Dardy.
Speaker 2 (13:32):
Hey Bobby, I'm a couple of us. We've covered you
for your entire pro career at this point, and I
think one thing that's always kind of been there is
you've had You've experienced a lot, You've had you know,
up times, down times, but you've always seemed to be
somebody in the locker room who like brings joy, brings noise,
like has you know, has fun, has comments. But how
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have you balanced? First of all, where does that part
of your personality come from? And then I have a follow.
Speaker 1 (13:57):
Up, thank you?
Speaker 3 (14:00):
The goofy side of me, I would say comes from
my mom. But the joking side, like the cracking jokes,
always trying to make sure everybody's cool and everything, everybody
get a smile.
Speaker 1 (14:14):
The DA saying it's my pops, my father for you.
Speaker 2 (14:18):
Has that sort to become a way to connect you
guys through stressful times. You have as a group been
through a lot, some highs, some lows this year. Do
you use that almost as a leadership tool at this
point in your career?
Speaker 3 (14:34):
Uh? I guess you could. You could said that to me,
I'll just be trying to be myself and because I know,
like you said, everything can be stressed up between me
having ups and downs throughout the season. But I just
try to like to be myself and make sure everybody
get a smile. You never know what somebody's going through
in there. Get a good laugh, you know. But as
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far as the leadership role goes, I guess.
Speaker 1 (14:59):
You could say it.
Speaker 2 (15:02):
A couple of years ago when the Bills came into town,
it was a really physical game. And I guess as
you guys have your eyes on December football, January, potentially
hopefully for you later in January football, what is embodying
not just that physicality weekend and week out, but that
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technical soundness and fundamental soundness that you guys have been preaching.
What does the combination of those two things mean for
a shot at the postseason?
Speaker 1 (15:32):
I would say it means airything.
Speaker 3 (15:35):
Honestly. You just have to be able to down. You
have to be able to play with emotional but not
be emotional, and be able to do your job while
under this choice in the same instance. But also it's
just like it's what we're paid to do, So you
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gotta go out there and do your job.
Speaker 1 (15:59):
Thanks by me, Stu.
Speaker 5 (16:05):
Hey, Bobby, what's been the most rewarding part of this
season for you in terms of just, you know, maybe
your growth as a player and what you feel like
you've been able to show this season.
Speaker 3 (16:15):
Being able to talk to you Stu, Man, you know, no,
I'm playing my I would say, just just.
Speaker 1 (16:23):
Being able to be around the young guys.
Speaker 3 (16:25):
Man, be around the guys and see see them get
their opportunity and make the players and stuff.
Speaker 1 (16:31):
Like I think I told.
Speaker 3 (16:34):
Whole verse the Tank the other day, like, like, man,
y'all really make me happy, Like because when I came
into the league, like, yeah, we had a lot of
talent and a good bit of the guys from from
my class with the rams still around the league, whether
they're playing or just on practice squad or something. But like,
we had a lot of talent and we didn't get
a chance to show it as far as being behind
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a vedicant group. So like the fact that these young
guys man has come man and being able to play
having fun, whether fits win, lose a draw man, it's
just exciting to see it.
Speaker 1 (17:05):
Touches home with me.
Speaker 5 (17:08):
Appreciate, thank you, and then we'll rap with.
Speaker 4 (17:12):
Garry, Hey, Bobby, thank you for doing this. You know
we've all everyone hear Anything has written a lot about
the first and second year guys on the defensive line
that are making plays. But you know, the Seahawks game,
the Saints game, it seems like in these crunch time moments,
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you're the guy that is is in the middle of it.
And I'm just curious if that's always been kind of
your calling card or what about it?
Speaker 1 (17:42):
You know, this season.
Speaker 4 (17:44):
Has made you come up big in those big moments.
Speaker 1 (17:49):
First and foremost, I would just say opportunity.
Speaker 3 (17:51):
I feel like the more I'm on the field, the
better I played, the more I get a feel for
the game and how the game goes, and just being
a student of the game and watching film restaurant the week,
I'll be able to pick up tendency and things throughout
the game. But as simple as I can put it
as big time players make big time plays.
Speaker 4 (18:12):
All right, Well, thanks very much, appreciate that.
Speaker 1 (18:15):
Yes, sir, And then one more with Jordan.
Speaker 2 (18:18):
Sorry, thanks Bobby for taking a follow up. You seem
to always have a way to describe everybody, all your teammates.
If people had never met Braiden Fisk before, how would
you describe Braiden to them?
Speaker 3 (18:33):
Oh? Man, I'll say, this is a good good dude man,
good hearted guy man.
Speaker 1 (18:39):
He definitely cares.
Speaker 3 (18:40):
He and then once we're talking about on the business
aspect the football, expect hardworking cab man. He like I
would personally. I would say personally, if a d was
around and got a chance to know him, adould love
bro like work. He works his ass off. He true
embodiment of what you what you want from rookie that
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you expect to play. And then as a person man,
goofy man. But he's kind of quiet, low key, but
once you get to know him.
Speaker 1 (19:07):
Good cat bro.
Speaker 2 (19:09):
Thank you, that's well said. Thanks Bobby, yes, ma'am all
Speaker 1 (19:14):
Right, Thanks Bobby, Thanks, thank you.