March 9, 2025 • 18 mins
Is your skincare routine doing more harm than good? Over-exfoliating could be speeding up aging and triggering inflammation—yikes! Kelly and Leigh break it all down so you can keep your skin glowing (not angry).
Plus, if we had a hypothetical $500 to start our routine from scratch, here’s exactly what we’d buy—our current, ride-or-die picks!
LINKS TO EVERYTHING MENTIONED:
Cetaphil Healthy Renew Facial Serum $20.60
The Ordinary Soothing & Barrier Support Serum $29.10
Bioderma Sensibio Soothing Defensive Serum $54.99
Estée Lauder Double Wear Sheer Long-Wear Makeup SPF 20 Foundation $79
Loungeface Lash $37
elf Cosmetics Luminous Putty Blush $16
MECCA MAXSunlit Skin Powder Bronzer $26
Revlon Micro Brow Pencil Dark Brown $23.95
Revolution Liner Liquid Pow Liquid Eyeliner $10.50
Morphe Nude Ambition Artistry Palette $28
Bobbi Brown Skin Corrector Stick $60
Episode Transcript
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Speaker 1 (00:10):
You're listening to a MoMA Mia podcast.
Speaker 2 (00:13):
Mamma Mia acknowledges the traditional owners of land and waters
that this podcast is recorded on Hello, Lee here quickly
telling you about a you Beuty episode because a bit
like fashion, sometimes you can just have too much going on.
So we explored if we're doing too much in our
skincare routine and if that's just getting us the results.
We don't want so have a listen here because it
(00:34):
might help your skin going into the cooler months.
Speaker 1 (00:37):
Make Up is my therapy.
Speaker 2 (00:39):
I'm in love, I'm obsessed, and I'm don't even feel
guilty a body. Hello, and welcome to you Beauty, the
daily podcast for Your Face.
Speaker 1 (00:49):
I'm Lee Campbell, I'm Kelly McCarran. Oh.
Speaker 3 (00:51):
We both just went to introduce the Monday episode at
the same time Monday.
Speaker 2 (00:57):
So we answer you be questions. You can send us
an email at you Buddy Podcast at momama dot com
dot you. You can dms on Instagram find a way
to get the question to us and we'll answer it.
Lots of people do and today day we have got
such a.
Speaker 1 (01:10):
Good question from a ubi. Oh.
Speaker 3 (01:12):
It's a kind of question that lean I just froth
on about starting makeup collections.
Speaker 1 (01:16):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, I forgot how It's fine, But first
Paula has emailed us.
Speaker 3 (01:20):
I feel like exfoliance might be making my skin worse
rather than better. I stick to the gentle ones you recommend,
like Azaelic acid and Paula's choice, But my skin looks
like it's aging faster. Is it true that using actives
and exfoliantce means you have to compensate with extra moisturizer
and coming serums to counteract to potential irritation? Am I
just stuck in a cycle of inflaming my skin and
(01:41):
then soothing it with more products? Sometimes I wonder if
I'd be better off just sticking to SBF, a.
Speaker 1 (01:47):
Cleanser and a basic moisturizer.
Speaker 3 (01:48):
Do I actually need actives and exfollance to slow down
aging or could my skin thrive without them? Are we
all over exfoliating and damaging our skin in the name
of gluing?
Speaker 1 (01:58):
What a great question, okay, Paula? Yes and no.
Speaker 3 (02:03):
Well, I'd also firstly like to remind paul and anyone
else listening that we don't need anything except sparf. Like
basic hygiene, skincare is all optional, correct, so.
Speaker 2 (02:14):
Basically you're saying you use mild exfoliance, I kind of
need to know your skin tie.
Speaker 3 (02:19):
And also like azelic acid and a pols choice expoorient
at the.
Speaker 2 (02:24):
Same night leg and the vitamin A and vitamin C.
So it depends on what your routine looks like holistically
over say a fortnight. It so depends on how often
you're exfoliating. It depends on your skin type. You know,
oily dry, dehydrated. It sounds like you're dehydrated from this,
but also you might have some underlying rosaesia or some sensitivities.
But yes, a lot, a lot, a lot of people
(02:44):
are over exfoliating and then damaging the skin barrier, and
you're right, we need to then replenish it. I'll use
myself as an example. I very very rarely use liquid
exfolient because I use Vitamin A at night, and I
use Vitamin NOT every night, a couple of darts a week,
and I use vitamin C every morning, and when I
double cleans, I use a microfiber cloth. So while vitamin
(03:04):
C and A aren't technically exactly chemical exfoliance, what they're
doing is they are promoting cell tone over so vitamin
C is a natural acid, so that's going to offer
a very gentle exfoliant in the way of cell turnover,
and vitamin A, which for you know, your retinoids. Your
retinom is also a form of exfoliant by way of
accelerating our skin turnover.
Speaker 1 (03:26):
So I don't really need it.
Speaker 2 (03:28):
And then when I do my double cleans, even though
the finest microfiber cloth, that's a form of manual exfoliation,
so you're sort of getting any gunk and top layers
of skin off.
Speaker 1 (03:37):
My cells are just doing their things.
Speaker 2 (03:39):
If I do get you know, quite dark sabaceous filaments
on my nose, mostly I might do a chemical exfoliant
that's probably once a fortnite perhaps depending but you will
see some that say do it daily, and I'm like,
absolutely not. And it also depends, you know, the cleansing
you're using.
Speaker 3 (03:55):
That was something that I thought, like, you need to
make sure that you're checking the ingredients of everything that
you're using, because a lot of cleanses can have mild
lactic acid in it or something in it, or your
moisturizer might even have.
Speaker 1 (04:07):
An active in it if they're.
Speaker 3 (04:08):
Always smaller amounts of course, but everything adds up. So
if you're using multiple different products with different forms of
exfoliation in them, then that's just creating.
Speaker 1 (04:17):
A disaster for your poor old skin barrier.
Speaker 2 (04:19):
Or even just you know, for example, a cleanser that's
not right for your skin type.
Speaker 1 (04:23):
It could just be too drying and stripping.
Speaker 3 (04:24):
If you're using a foam cleanser and you've got drier
sensitive skin, yeah, I agree, skin is not going to
be happy.
Speaker 1 (04:30):
Agreed.
Speaker 2 (04:30):
So you say that you use exalic acid and Paula's choice.
I wonder which Paula's choice is, probably the newer one.
Speaker 3 (04:36):
Maybe she means the bh because that's kind of like
the most famous Paula's choice.
Speaker 2 (04:40):
BHA is very hectic, you know at a BHA as
opposed from AHA, is incredibly strong, but they market.
Speaker 3 (04:45):
It for everyday use. So that's why I think sometimes
people probably are like, oh, yeah, it's fine to use,
but it's quite strong.
Speaker 2 (04:52):
So for now, the way your skin is feeling, I
would absolutely do what you say. You say, do we
actually need actives and exfoliance to slow down aging. The
best anti edging product you can use is sunscreen. I
use actives, particularly vitamin C for future sun protection. In
terms of some damage. Vitamin A I use for tone texture.
(05:13):
I'm not really that worried about wrinkles, to be honest, Well,
you're gonna get them. That's part of aging. Yeah, just radiance.
So look at your overall routine and pair it right back.
You know how Chanelle said, like look in the mirror
and take something off. It's like that of your skincare routine.
Probably I'd say take everything off for quite a while.
So for a week or so into your skin isn't angry.
Speaker 3 (05:33):
Cut right back, make sure you check in the ingredients
and then just do a basic milk balm or cream cleanser. Yes,
then a hydrating or repairing sort of serum, simple moisturizer SPF,
and then you can sort of reintroduce a great like
start again.
Speaker 2 (05:47):
Yeah, if you are using a vitamin cine, it's not
agreen with you. Or if you do want the quote
unquote anti aging benefits of a serum, but you want
it to be strengthening and nourishing, switch to a vitamin
B or a nice inner mind. I've got a bunch
of recommendations.
Speaker 3 (06:01):
I think that is such a good Tipley because in
terms of anti aging we're all gonna get wrinkles anyway,
but plump, hydrated skin looks.
Speaker 1 (06:11):
Like healthy skin.
Speaker 3 (06:13):
So all of the products that you're about to recommend
are going to do that.
Speaker 2 (06:16):
Vitamin B is great for a lot of people because
it's anti aging but also really restorative, and so you're
kind of getting both. Keep in mind wi your shopping,
it might say vitamin B, it might say nicinamide. So
some I've used in love is the Synergy Skin Vitamin
B thirteen percent essential Nicinamide serum. That's one hundred and
thirty bucks. So that's a pricey one, but it's very good.
(06:37):
The set of phil Healthier new serum that launched a
while ago, I think it's about fifty bucks. That's got
a really great mix. I mean, it's cetaphil, so it's
gentle by nature, but it's still anti aging, beautiful, full
of heaps of like delicious peptides and two types.
Speaker 1 (06:53):
Of vitamin B.
Speaker 2 (06:54):
So they've got nicinamide in there and panthonol. That's a
good one. Good old the ordinary, the soothing and barrier
support serum. I often use that one. It's a pink one,
yesh I love that. I love that too. It's what
thirty bucks Bioderma sen Sibio soothing defense serum for sensitive skin, Delicious.
And then another more expensive one is the Medicate Hydrate
(07:15):
B five intents.
Speaker 1 (07:16):
That's about one hundred and five bucks.
Speaker 2 (07:18):
So you've said show to use sunscreen, cleanser and moisturizer. Sure,
but I'd ad a serum under that moisturizer, just that
thinner layered so it can really penetrate and plump you up.
Speaker 3 (07:28):
Yeah, I agree, and also repair, help prepare the damage
that's obviously happened.
Speaker 2 (07:33):
Yes, but overall, yes, most people are very much doing
way too much.
Speaker 3 (07:38):
That's one of the worst thing about the democratization of
beauty and people learning so much and wanting to buy.
Speaker 2 (07:46):
Things, and more and more brands launching, says she who
launched a brand, but it's not for the face. But
there's more choice than ever.
Speaker 3 (07:51):
Before exactly, and people think that they need everything all
at once, like us.
Speaker 1 (07:56):
So I hope that helps.
Speaker 2 (07:57):
And coming up after the break, we have a makeup
question that I think Kelly is going to die.
Speaker 1 (08:02):
I'm so excited, so excited.
Speaker 2 (08:08):
So Felicity Centers a d help my bathroom cabinet sort
of got flooded. There was a leak, and now all
my makeup is ruined. I'm obviously starting from scratch, which sucks.
But on the bright side, I'm excited to get some
new makeup.
Speaker 1 (08:23):
Look at that silver lining.
Speaker 2 (08:24):
If you had to put together a makeup bag or
a Centrals draw, what makeup would you buy. I'm looking
to spend around five hundred dollars because I'm happy to
splurge on some spendis in the mix. Thanks so much
to both of you. Love your advice and how you
make me laugh. I'm so excited. Well, Felicity out of flood.
Speaker 3 (08:44):
Do you know what though, she's always looking on the
bride shide of life.
Speaker 1 (08:48):
Because she gets to go shopping. I haven't added up
my list yet. I don't know how much it is
I did. Well, how do you know if you reached
five hundred dollars? I just wrote down the things I
really would buy.
Speaker 2 (08:58):
But also I've decided Felicity hasn't lost her tools, so
she's still got her brushes and an eyelash.
Speaker 1 (09:03):
Girl. Well, if they got a bit wet, you just
wash them, That's what I thought. Did you think that too?
Speaker 2 (09:06):
Okay, Felicity, I hope you've since washed your brushes in
your alash because we're just giving you makeup product.
Speaker 3 (09:11):
Yes, however, I've given you everything full price me too,
and half of these products you'll be able to get
half price me too.
Speaker 1 (09:20):
There you go.
Speaker 3 (09:20):
You've got You've probably got like one hundred bucks that
you can then spend on your tools. That's my amount
is five hundred and one dollars and seventy nine cents.
Speaker 2 (09:29):
I'll lend you the money from mine. I pretended it
was me and that I needed to do my face
like that weekend. Okay, basically I pretended I was poor felicity,
and I was like, right, these are products I love,
reuse often pack on holidays. Would really probably go and
get quite quickly, and then I'm going to save any
money I've got for later, except you can borrow some.
I am buying the Foundation essay lord a double wear
(09:51):
sheer long wear makeup seventy nine dollars. You can get
at a door, you can get it at Maya. Anyway,
you get esday loader great all rounder long wearing, but
nowhere near as matt or full coverage as the original
Great Foundation.
Speaker 1 (10:03):
Happy with that so far?
Speaker 2 (10:04):
Okay, Next up, I am buying the Lounge Face Lash
Msgara thirty seven dollars.
Speaker 1 (10:08):
Love that one.
Speaker 2 (10:09):
Ubilomascaa. I literally has bordered three new tubes, which made
me think of it. I'm in my blush era, so
I'm restocking my blush with my favorite Elf Cosmetics, Luminous
Putty blush, which is sixteen dollars.
Speaker 1 (10:20):
It's a little pot I like the.
Speaker 2 (10:22):
Shade Maui Maui, which is very neutrally nude, but there's
brighter colors.
Speaker 1 (10:26):
Did I say sixteen dollars delicious?
Speaker 2 (10:29):
Then Bronze A really stumped me because I'm just really
not in my bronze era at the moment.
Speaker 1 (10:33):
I hate them all.
Speaker 2 (10:34):
I'm going back to my old, old, old old favorite,
the Mecha Max Sunlit Skin bronzing Powder twenty six dollars,
because it's an old face, it's an old faithful They reformulated.
It's not as good, but it's still very very very
very good. My eyebrows, oh my god, this is literally
what I buy first, the Revlon micro brow pencil. I
get dark brown full price. It's twenty four dollars. It's
(10:55):
on sale at the moment, but I'm not going to
tell you that because you know, we don't want to
get you excited. It's just one of those really fine
micro pens with us fully at the other end, Happy days,
my liquid liner.
Speaker 1 (11:05):
You know how much love my I herb. So I'm
getting the.
Speaker 2 (11:07):
Revolution Beauty make Up Revolution Liquid Power Liquid eyeliner. It's
fourteen dollars, really nice, fine felt. I then, I'm not
a huge shadow person, but I will miss my shadows
because I often do a smoky at the edge of
you know, just whatever. So I've gone to Mecro and
I'm getting the Morphi Nood Ambition Artistry Palette twenty eight
(11:28):
dollars for one, two, three, four or five, six seventy
eight nineteen eleven and twelve thirteen four and fifteen sixty
s eighteen eighteen shades. Like I might actually just go
by that and throw about all my other palettes in
real life. Morphy is such good quality twenty eight bucks.
Then Conceala again stumped me. I'm having a lot of
base issues at the moment, and I know we're starting again,
So I'm going back to the Bobby Brown skin correct
(11:51):
a stick, which is sort of a neutralizer for.
Speaker 1 (11:55):
Underreyes and face. Good one.
Speaker 2 (11:58):
Yeah, I used to love it, and then I forgot,
and then I was like, do I can't be bothered
buying two conceal as I'm still dealing with.
Speaker 1 (12:03):
The plumber, you know. So I've gone to get that one.
Speaker 2 (12:06):
My little highlighter that I love, well, not a little,
and you meant to use it all. It's the fenty
Beauty Easy Drop all over glow Illuminator, but I just
use it as a highlighter. But I could mix it
in with my estay lord on last, but not least,
on my lips is from Sephora. The tart Marajuka Juicy
lip got a little bit of color, looks like a bar,
feels like an oil. So that's what I'm starting with.
(12:27):
And my grand total is.
Speaker 1 (12:31):
Three hundred and seventy six dollars. You did that so well.
I did mind so differently.
Speaker 2 (12:36):
You're more makeupy than me, though, and I would want
one of everything, so I always have the option in
case I don't know what's going on and can't get
to the shops. Because so now your kitchen flooded, bathroom
exactly bathrooms already flooded. Now you've got your makeup, you
can't shop because exactly everything that bloody plumber is taking
his tom I'm excited for this.
Speaker 1 (12:56):
Can I sit back please do? Okay?
Speaker 3 (12:58):
So my total, as I said, is five hundred and
one dollars and seventy nine cents.
Speaker 1 (13:02):
I'll lend you two dollars.
Speaker 3 (13:03):
Thinks, thanks so much, because I'm assuming that something will
have been on special. All right, So I'm getting the
Estralla's Dewey and Daring Hydrating Prima nineteen ninety five. It
is absolutely fantastic. I just love it so much. So
where I can, I've chosen a Savy option, So where
I can't, and I really don't like that many savy options,
(13:25):
I've chosen. The spendis if that makes sense, which is
why for foundation, I've chosen the Revlon Illuminance Serum Tint.
That one full price is thirty eight ninety five, which
is actually a lot of money, but I've never I've
mentioned it a hundred times, and I've also never paid
more than twenty dollars for it because it's always on special.
So that one is kind of what you said, like
(13:45):
you can build it up, but it is really nice
and light. It's just heaven for consiala. I'm doing the
Natasha Denona glam Consila. That's fifty four dollars from Sephora,
Great coverage. It's the most recent one that I've absolutely
been obsessed with. I think I spoke about at the
end of last year.
Speaker 1 (14:01):
Love it. Then you went out and get it? Did
you like it? You didn't know? I liked it and
I love it. That's another topic topic for another day.
Speaker 3 (14:10):
Obviously, I'm getting Benefit Cosmetics precisely my brow eyebrow pencil.
I wouldn't get anything else.
Speaker 1 (14:16):
I forgot about that.
Speaker 3 (14:17):
It suits my brow type and everything so well. I'd
get the westmin Atalier Face Trace Contour stick for seventy
nine dollars because I know but it's there's nothing quite
like it in terms of drawing my contour on. Then
I would get the Benefit Cosmetics Hula Matt Bronza sixty
three dollars.
Speaker 1 (14:35):
Yeah, that's my favorite. I think. Doesn't it annoy you?
The packaging? Oh yeah, put it. It's so annoying, so annoying.
Speaker 2 (14:41):
But when I'm thinking of just a neutral bonser, it's
a great product, and to hate the package.
Speaker 1 (14:45):
It's easy for everyone. Because I didn't just shop for myself.
Speaker 3 (14:48):
I'm sort of shopping as if I'm starting a makeup kit,
but also, yeah, I needed to love everything obviously. For
my lip, I'm going to get the Charlotte Chilbry Lip
Cheat Pencil thirty eight dollars in the pillow Talk, just
because it's the best. If I'm only buying one shade,
because I'll wear it the most. I should have got
a pencil, and then I really wanted an expensive lip,
but I couldn't fit it in. So what I'm choosing
(15:09):
is the Nax Professional Makeup Duck Plump because it's a plumper,
but it's also oily and pigmented, so I can get
it in a similar shade. For muscara, I'm going for
Pharmacy because I can't afford anything else, and I'm choosing
the Milani highly rated Lash Extensions mascara. It is their
tubula and it's outstanding twenty six ninety nine full price.
(15:31):
Then I'm getting the estrallas in Credit brow gel for
fifteen ninety five. Moving on to Morphy in case you
don't have your tools or the ones that did get ruined,
all bases covered three piece tool set twenty one dollars.
Speaker 1 (15:44):
It's got two little puffs and a that's good there.
If you don't get that, you've come under budget exactly.
Speaker 3 (15:50):
And then finishing off with the Home Beauty set Oh
wait no, I'm not finishing off uf still good for you.
The Home Beauty Setting Spray thirty five dollars for the
little mini one. It's got like this beautiful glow in it.
It makes you make up last all day heaven. The
Oxx Cosmetics Highlight a bomb in opal, such a good product,
six dollars.
Speaker 1 (16:07):
Then we've got the Revolution Blush Relay loaded in rubub custard.
Speaker 3 (16:11):
It's kind of like a peachy pink tone that I
think would suit every on its ten dollars. And finally
I'm going to get the Mechamax Mini Mix Eyeshadow Palette
because it's kind of got your everyday bronze nudes in it,
and I just think it's very wearaborn.
Speaker 1 (16:25):
It's twenty two dollars. That was so much fun.
Speaker 2 (16:28):
Yeah, I wish I did a lipliner and a setting spray.
So thank you for your service, Felissy. In all seriousness,
I hope the damage isn't too bad and the bathroom's okay,
and let us know what you buy.
Speaker 1 (16:38):
Well, that was a lot. So we'll catch our.
Speaker 2 (16:39):
Breath and after the break, Kelly has another beard product.
She wants to tell us about.
Speaker 1 (16:49):
What a hash you makeup packs? All right, kel what's
you doing with your bed?
Speaker 3 (16:54):
Okay, so you know how a couple of weeks gone,
I was like, Oh, you've got to get the beard
tint for your eyebrows.
Speaker 1 (16:59):
Fantastic.
Speaker 2 (17:00):
All right.
Speaker 3 (17:00):
If you want the slickst of slipped back buns and ponies,
use a beard brush.
Speaker 1 (17:05):
What's a beird brush? It is like to the brush. No,
a beard brush.
Speaker 3 (17:09):
It's kind of like one of those really stiff. It
looks like a shoe cleaning brush. Yes, yes, exactly, Okay,
thank you. My mind just went completely blank. Oh my goodness.
It is game changing. It will get any single frizz.
I've just always used my own brush, like whatever brush
I was using, but than just.
Speaker 1 (17:27):
Like a slicking product.
Speaker 3 (17:28):
If you want the slickest of slick products, beard brush,
you can get them anywhere.
Speaker 2 (17:32):
Couple of dollars. Oh my god, I love it. Let's
go to the mens al together. Mine is a little
bit like that, sort of. My hair grows at the
speed of light. I have dark, dark, dark brown hair
and I usually have a center part, so it's just
like hello, grays overnight. I've got a million root cover products,
but sometimes the spray is annoying. It's a bit too
much because I've only got a tiny bit of grayze.
But it's still obvious. Most eye shadow palettes, if you
(17:53):
were brunettes, this supplies has a dark brown mat.
Speaker 1 (17:56):
Just use eyeshadow. I've been using.
Speaker 2 (17:58):
Dark brown eye shadow now almost exclusively because I've run
out of all my hair.
Speaker 3 (18:01):
Root cover ups and you know what, I can't see
one single grade, so and.
Speaker 2 (18:04):
You'd just like it's really precise. Yeah, and your roots
don't know. They're like, oh, hello, that's hat cook at
us with our hair stuff.
Speaker 3 (18:12):
That's not meant to be for our heads. That's the
whole point of host tag. And thank you so much
for listening. If you have a question, make sure you
dm us or email us and our producer will make
sure we answer it. You.
Speaker 2 (18:22):
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You're listening to a MoMA Mia podcast.
Speaker 2 (00:13):
Mamma Mia acknowledges the traditional owners of land and waters
that this podcast is recorded on Hello, Lee here quickly
telling you about a you Beuty episode because a bit
like fashion, sometimes you can just have too much going on.
So we explored if we're doing too much in our
skincare routine and if that's just getting us the results.
We don't want so have a listen here because it
(00:34):
might help your skin going into the cooler months.
Speaker 1 (00:37):
Make Up is my therapy.
Speaker 2 (00:39):
I'm in love, I'm obsessed, and I'm don't even feel
guilty a body. Hello, and welcome to you Beauty, the
daily podcast for Your Face.
Speaker 1 (00:49):
I'm Lee Campbell, I'm Kelly McCarran. Oh.
Speaker 3 (00:51):
We both just went to introduce the Monday episode at
the same time Monday.
Speaker 2 (00:57):
So we answer you be questions. You can send us
an email at you Buddy Podcast at momama dot com
dot you. You can dms on Instagram find a way
to get the question to us and we'll answer it.
Lots of people do and today day we have got
such a.
Speaker 1 (01:10):
Good question from a ubi. Oh.
Speaker 3 (01:12):
It's a kind of question that lean I just froth
on about starting makeup collections.
Speaker 1 (01:16):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, I forgot how It's fine, But first
Paula has emailed us.
Speaker 3 (01:20):
I feel like exfoliance might be making my skin worse
rather than better. I stick to the gentle ones you recommend,
like Azaelic acid and Paula's choice, But my skin looks
like it's aging faster. Is it true that using actives
and exfoliantce means you have to compensate with extra moisturizer
and coming serums to counteract to potential irritation? Am I
just stuck in a cycle of inflaming my skin and
(01:41):
then soothing it with more products? Sometimes I wonder if
I'd be better off just sticking to SBF, a.
Speaker 1 (01:47):
Cleanser and a basic moisturizer.
Speaker 3 (01:48):
Do I actually need actives and exfollance to slow down
aging or could my skin thrive without them? Are we
all over exfoliating and damaging our skin in the name
of gluing?
Speaker 1 (01:58):
What a great question, okay, Paula? Yes and no.
Speaker 3 (02:03):
Well, I'd also firstly like to remind paul and anyone
else listening that we don't need anything except sparf. Like
basic hygiene, skincare is all optional, correct, so.
Speaker 2 (02:14):
Basically you're saying you use mild exfoliance, I kind of
need to know your skin tie.
Speaker 3 (02:19):
And also like azelic acid and a pols choice expoorient
at the.
Speaker 2 (02:24):
Same night leg and the vitamin A and vitamin C.
So it depends on what your routine looks like holistically
over say a fortnight. It so depends on how often
you're exfoliating. It depends on your skin type. You know,
oily dry, dehydrated. It sounds like you're dehydrated from this,
but also you might have some underlying rosaesia or some sensitivities.
But yes, a lot, a lot, a lot of people
(02:44):
are over exfoliating and then damaging the skin barrier, and
you're right, we need to then replenish it. I'll use
myself as an example. I very very rarely use liquid
exfolient because I use Vitamin A at night, and I
use Vitamin NOT every night, a couple of darts a week,
and I use vitamin C every morning, and when I
double cleans, I use a microfiber cloth. So while vitamin
(03:04):
C and A aren't technically exactly chemical exfoliance, what they're
doing is they are promoting cell tone over so vitamin
C is a natural acid, so that's going to offer
a very gentle exfoliant in the way of cell turnover,
and vitamin A, which for you know, your retinoids. Your
retinom is also a form of exfoliant by way of
accelerating our skin turnover.
Speaker 1 (03:26):
So I don't really need it.
Speaker 2 (03:28):
And then when I do my double cleans, even though
the finest microfiber cloth, that's a form of manual exfoliation,
so you're sort of getting any gunk and top layers
of skin off.
Speaker 1 (03:37):
My cells are just doing their things.
Speaker 2 (03:39):
If I do get you know, quite dark sabaceous filaments
on my nose, mostly I might do a chemical exfoliant
that's probably once a fortnite perhaps depending but you will
see some that say do it daily, and I'm like,
absolutely not. And it also depends, you know, the cleansing
you're using.
Speaker 3 (03:55):
That was something that I thought, like, you need to
make sure that you're checking the ingredients of everything that
you're using, because a lot of cleanses can have mild
lactic acid in it or something in it, or your
moisturizer might even have.
Speaker 1 (04:07):
An active in it if they're.
Speaker 3 (04:08):
Always smaller amounts of course, but everything adds up. So
if you're using multiple different products with different forms of
exfoliation in them, then that's just creating.
Speaker 1 (04:17):
A disaster for your poor old skin barrier.
Speaker 2 (04:19):
Or even just you know, for example, a cleanser that's
not right for your skin type.
Speaker 1 (04:23):
It could just be too drying and stripping.
Speaker 3 (04:24):
If you're using a foam cleanser and you've got drier
sensitive skin, yeah, I agree, skin is not going to
be happy.
Speaker 1 (04:30):
Agreed.
Speaker 2 (04:30):
So you say that you use exalic acid and Paula's choice.
I wonder which Paula's choice is, probably the newer one.
Speaker 3 (04:36):
Maybe she means the bh because that's kind of like
the most famous Paula's choice.
Speaker 2 (04:40):
BHA is very hectic, you know at a BHA as
opposed from AHA, is incredibly strong, but they market.
Speaker 3 (04:45):
It for everyday use. So that's why I think sometimes
people probably are like, oh, yeah, it's fine to use,
but it's quite strong.
Speaker 2 (04:52):
So for now, the way your skin is feeling, I
would absolutely do what you say. You say, do we
actually need actives and exfoliance to slow down aging. The
best anti edging product you can use is sunscreen. I
use actives, particularly vitamin C for future sun protection. In
terms of some damage. Vitamin A I use for tone texture.
(05:13):
I'm not really that worried about wrinkles, to be honest, Well,
you're gonna get them. That's part of aging. Yeah, just radiance.
So look at your overall routine and pair it right back.
You know how Chanelle said, like look in the mirror
and take something off. It's like that of your skincare routine.
Probably I'd say take everything off for quite a while.
So for a week or so into your skin isn't angry.
Speaker 3 (05:33):
Cut right back, make sure you check in the ingredients
and then just do a basic milk balm or cream cleanser. Yes,
then a hydrating or repairing sort of serum, simple moisturizer SPF,
and then you can sort of reintroduce a great like
start again.
Speaker 2 (05:47):
Yeah, if you are using a vitamin cine, it's not
agreen with you. Or if you do want the quote
unquote anti aging benefits of a serum, but you want
it to be strengthening and nourishing, switch to a vitamin
B or a nice inner mind. I've got a bunch
of recommendations.
Speaker 3 (06:01):
I think that is such a good Tipley because in
terms of anti aging we're all gonna get wrinkles anyway,
but plump, hydrated skin looks.
Speaker 1 (06:11):
Like healthy skin.
Speaker 3 (06:13):
So all of the products that you're about to recommend
are going to do that.
Speaker 2 (06:16):
Vitamin B is great for a lot of people because
it's anti aging but also really restorative, and so you're
kind of getting both. Keep in mind wi your shopping,
it might say vitamin B, it might say nicinamide. So
some I've used in love is the Synergy Skin Vitamin
B thirteen percent essential Nicinamide serum. That's one hundred and
thirty bucks. So that's a pricey one, but it's very good.
(06:37):
The set of phil Healthier new serum that launched a
while ago, I think it's about fifty bucks. That's got
a really great mix. I mean, it's cetaphil, so it's
gentle by nature, but it's still anti aging, beautiful, full
of heaps of like delicious peptides and two types.
Speaker 1 (06:53):
Of vitamin B.
Speaker 2 (06:54):
So they've got nicinamide in there and panthonol. That's a
good one. Good old the ordinary, the soothing and barrier
support serum. I often use that one. It's a pink one,
yesh I love that. I love that too. It's what
thirty bucks Bioderma sen Sibio soothing defense serum for sensitive skin, Delicious.
And then another more expensive one is the Medicate Hydrate
(07:15):
B five intents.
Speaker 1 (07:16):
That's about one hundred and five bucks.
Speaker 2 (07:18):
So you've said show to use sunscreen, cleanser and moisturizer. Sure,
but I'd ad a serum under that moisturizer, just that
thinner layered so it can really penetrate and plump you up.
Speaker 3 (07:28):
Yeah, I agree, and also repair, help prepare the damage
that's obviously happened.
Speaker 2 (07:33):
Yes, but overall, yes, most people are very much doing
way too much.
Speaker 3 (07:38):
That's one of the worst thing about the democratization of
beauty and people learning so much and wanting to buy.
Speaker 2 (07:46):
Things, and more and more brands launching, says she who
launched a brand, but it's not for the face. But
there's more choice than ever.
Speaker 3 (07:51):
Before exactly, and people think that they need everything all
at once, like us.
Speaker 1 (07:56):
So I hope that helps.
Speaker 2 (07:57):
And coming up after the break, we have a makeup
question that I think Kelly is going to die.
Speaker 1 (08:02):
I'm so excited, so excited.
Speaker 2 (08:08):
So Felicity Centers a d help my bathroom cabinet sort
of got flooded. There was a leak, and now all
my makeup is ruined. I'm obviously starting from scratch, which sucks.
But on the bright side, I'm excited to get some
new makeup.
Speaker 1 (08:23):
Look at that silver lining.
Speaker 2 (08:24):
If you had to put together a makeup bag or
a Centrals draw, what makeup would you buy. I'm looking
to spend around five hundred dollars because I'm happy to
splurge on some spendis in the mix. Thanks so much
to both of you. Love your advice and how you
make me laugh. I'm so excited. Well, Felicity out of flood.
Speaker 3 (08:44):
Do you know what though, she's always looking on the
bride shide of life.
Speaker 1 (08:48):
Because she gets to go shopping. I haven't added up
my list yet. I don't know how much it is
I did. Well, how do you know if you reached
five hundred dollars? I just wrote down the things I
really would buy.
Speaker 2 (08:58):
But also I've decided Felicity hasn't lost her tools, so
she's still got her brushes and an eyelash.
Speaker 1 (09:03):
Girl. Well, if they got a bit wet, you just
wash them, That's what I thought. Did you think that too?
Speaker 2 (09:06):
Okay, Felicity, I hope you've since washed your brushes in
your alash because we're just giving you makeup product.
Speaker 3 (09:11):
Yes, however, I've given you everything full price me too,
and half of these products you'll be able to get
half price me too.
Speaker 1 (09:20):
There you go.
Speaker 3 (09:20):
You've got You've probably got like one hundred bucks that
you can then spend on your tools. That's my amount
is five hundred and one dollars and seventy nine cents.
Speaker 2 (09:29):
I'll lend you the money from mine. I pretended it
was me and that I needed to do my face
like that weekend. Okay, basically I pretended I was poor felicity,
and I was like, right, these are products I love,
reuse often pack on holidays. Would really probably go and
get quite quickly, and then I'm going to save any
money I've got for later, except you can borrow some.
I am buying the Foundation essay lord a double wear
(09:51):
sheer long wear makeup seventy nine dollars. You can get
at a door, you can get it at Maya. Anyway,
you get esday loader great all rounder long wearing, but
nowhere near as matt or full coverage as the original
Great Foundation.
Speaker 1 (10:03):
Happy with that so far?
Speaker 2 (10:04):
Okay, Next up, I am buying the Lounge Face Lash
Msgara thirty seven dollars.
Speaker 1 (10:08):
Love that one.
Speaker 2 (10:09):
Ubilomascaa. I literally has bordered three new tubes, which made
me think of it. I'm in my blush era, so
I'm restocking my blush with my favorite Elf Cosmetics, Luminous
Putty blush, which is sixteen dollars.
Speaker 1 (10:20):
It's a little pot I like the.
Speaker 2 (10:22):
Shade Maui Maui, which is very neutrally nude, but there's
brighter colors.
Speaker 1 (10:26):
Did I say sixteen dollars delicious?
Speaker 2 (10:29):
Then Bronze A really stumped me because I'm just really
not in my bronze era at the moment.
Speaker 1 (10:33):
I hate them all.
Speaker 2 (10:34):
I'm going back to my old, old, old old favorite,
the Mecha Max Sunlit Skin bronzing Powder twenty six dollars,
because it's an old face, it's an old faithful They reformulated.
It's not as good, but it's still very very very
very good. My eyebrows, oh my god, this is literally
what I buy first, the Revlon micro brow pencil. I
get dark brown full price. It's twenty four dollars. It's
(10:55):
on sale at the moment, but I'm not going to
tell you that because you know, we don't want to
get you excited. It's just one of those really fine
micro pens with us fully at the other end, Happy days,
my liquid liner.
Speaker 1 (11:05):
You know how much love my I herb. So I'm
getting the.
Speaker 2 (11:07):
Revolution Beauty make Up Revolution Liquid Power Liquid eyeliner. It's
fourteen dollars, really nice, fine felt. I then, I'm not
a huge shadow person, but I will miss my shadows
because I often do a smoky at the edge of
you know, just whatever. So I've gone to Mecro and
I'm getting the Morphi Nood Ambition Artistry Palette twenty eight
(11:28):
dollars for one, two, three, four or five, six seventy
eight nineteen eleven and twelve thirteen four and fifteen sixty
s eighteen eighteen shades. Like I might actually just go
by that and throw about all my other palettes in
real life. Morphy is such good quality twenty eight bucks.
Then Conceala again stumped me. I'm having a lot of
base issues at the moment, and I know we're starting again,
So I'm going back to the Bobby Brown skin correct
(11:51):
a stick, which is sort of a neutralizer for.
Speaker 1 (11:55):
Underreyes and face. Good one.
Speaker 2 (11:58):
Yeah, I used to love it, and then I forgot,
and then I was like, do I can't be bothered
buying two conceal as I'm still dealing with.
Speaker 1 (12:03):
The plumber, you know. So I've gone to get that one.
Speaker 2 (12:06):
My little highlighter that I love, well, not a little,
and you meant to use it all. It's the fenty
Beauty Easy Drop all over glow Illuminator, but I just
use it as a highlighter. But I could mix it
in with my estay lord on last, but not least,
on my lips is from Sephora. The tart Marajuka Juicy
lip got a little bit of color, looks like a bar,
feels like an oil. So that's what I'm starting with.
(12:27):
And my grand total is.
Speaker 1 (12:31):
Three hundred and seventy six dollars. You did that so well.
I did mind so differently.
Speaker 2 (12:36):
You're more makeupy than me, though, and I would want
one of everything, so I always have the option in
case I don't know what's going on and can't get
to the shops. Because so now your kitchen flooded, bathroom
exactly bathrooms already flooded. Now you've got your makeup, you
can't shop because exactly everything that bloody plumber is taking
his tom I'm excited for this.
Speaker 1 (12:56):
Can I sit back please do? Okay?
Speaker 3 (12:58):
So my total, as I said, is five hundred and
one dollars and seventy nine cents.
Speaker 1 (13:02):
I'll lend you two dollars.
Speaker 3 (13:03):
Thinks, thanks so much, because I'm assuming that something will
have been on special. All right, So I'm getting the
Estralla's Dewey and Daring Hydrating Prima nineteen ninety five. It
is absolutely fantastic. I just love it so much. So
where I can, I've chosen a Savy option, So where
I can't, and I really don't like that many savy options,
(13:25):
I've chosen. The spendis if that makes sense, which is
why for foundation, I've chosen the Revlon Illuminance Serum Tint.
That one full price is thirty eight ninety five, which
is actually a lot of money, but I've never I've
mentioned it a hundred times, and I've also never paid
more than twenty dollars for it because it's always on special.
So that one is kind of what you said, like
(13:45):
you can build it up, but it is really nice
and light. It's just heaven for consiala. I'm doing the
Natasha Denona glam Consila. That's fifty four dollars from Sephora,
Great coverage. It's the most recent one that I've absolutely
been obsessed with. I think I spoke about at the
end of last year.
Speaker 1 (14:01):
Love it. Then you went out and get it? Did
you like it? You didn't know? I liked it and
I love it. That's another topic topic for another day.
Speaker 3 (14:10):
Obviously, I'm getting Benefit Cosmetics precisely my brow eyebrow pencil.
I wouldn't get anything else.
Speaker 1 (14:16):
I forgot about that.
Speaker 3 (14:17):
It suits my brow type and everything so well. I'd
get the westmin Atalier Face Trace Contour stick for seventy
nine dollars because I know but it's there's nothing quite
like it in terms of drawing my contour on. Then
I would get the Benefit Cosmetics Hula Matt Bronza sixty
three dollars.
Speaker 1 (14:35):
Yeah, that's my favorite. I think. Doesn't it annoy you?
The packaging? Oh yeah, put it. It's so annoying, so annoying.
Speaker 2 (14:41):
But when I'm thinking of just a neutral bonser, it's
a great product, and to hate the package.
Speaker 1 (14:45):
It's easy for everyone. Because I didn't just shop for myself.
Speaker 3 (14:48):
I'm sort of shopping as if I'm starting a makeup kit,
but also, yeah, I needed to love everything obviously. For
my lip, I'm going to get the Charlotte Chilbry Lip
Cheat Pencil thirty eight dollars in the pillow Talk, just
because it's the best. If I'm only buying one shade,
because I'll wear it the most. I should have got
a pencil, and then I really wanted an expensive lip,
but I couldn't fit it in. So what I'm choosing
(15:09):
is the Nax Professional Makeup Duck Plump because it's a plumper,
but it's also oily and pigmented, so I can get
it in a similar shade. For muscara, I'm going for
Pharmacy because I can't afford anything else, and I'm choosing
the Milani highly rated Lash Extensions mascara. It is their
tubula and it's outstanding twenty six ninety nine full price.
(15:31):
Then I'm getting the estrallas in Credit brow gel for
fifteen ninety five. Moving on to Morphy in case you
don't have your tools or the ones that did get ruined,
all bases covered three piece tool set twenty one dollars.
Speaker 1 (15:44):
It's got two little puffs and a that's good there.
If you don't get that, you've come under budget exactly.
Speaker 3 (15:50):
And then finishing off with the Home Beauty set Oh
wait no, I'm not finishing off uf still good for you.
The Home Beauty Setting Spray thirty five dollars for the
little mini one. It's got like this beautiful glow in it.
It makes you make up last all day heaven. The
Oxx Cosmetics Highlight a bomb in opal, such a good product,
six dollars.
Speaker 1 (16:07):
Then we've got the Revolution Blush Relay loaded in rubub custard.
Speaker 3 (16:11):
It's kind of like a peachy pink tone that I
think would suit every on its ten dollars. And finally
I'm going to get the Mechamax Mini Mix Eyeshadow Palette
because it's kind of got your everyday bronze nudes in it,
and I just think it's very wearaborn.
Speaker 1 (16:25):
It's twenty two dollars. That was so much fun.
Speaker 2 (16:28):
Yeah, I wish I did a lipliner and a setting spray.
So thank you for your service, Felissy. In all seriousness,
I hope the damage isn't too bad and the bathroom's okay,
and let us know what you buy.
Speaker 1 (16:38):
Well, that was a lot. So we'll catch our.
Speaker 2 (16:39):
Breath and after the break, Kelly has another beard product.
She wants to tell us about.
Speaker 1 (16:49):
What a hash you makeup packs? All right, kel what's
you doing with your bed?
Speaker 3 (16:54):
Okay, so you know how a couple of weeks gone,
I was like, Oh, you've got to get the beard
tint for your eyebrows.
Speaker 1 (16:59):
Fantastic.
Speaker 2 (17:00):
All right.
Speaker 3 (17:00):
If you want the slickst of slipped back buns and ponies,
use a beard brush.
Speaker 1 (17:05):
What's a beird brush? It is like to the brush. No,
a beard brush.
Speaker 3 (17:09):
It's kind of like one of those really stiff. It
looks like a shoe cleaning brush. Yes, yes, exactly, Okay,
thank you. My mind just went completely blank. Oh my goodness.
It is game changing. It will get any single frizz.
I've just always used my own brush, like whatever brush
I was using, but than just.
Speaker 1 (17:27):
Like a slicking product.
Speaker 3 (17:28):
If you want the slickest of slick products, beard brush,
you can get them anywhere.
Speaker 2 (17:32):
Couple of dollars. Oh my god, I love it. Let's
go to the mens al together. Mine is a little
bit like that, sort of. My hair grows at the
speed of light. I have dark, dark, dark brown hair
and I usually have a center part, so it's just
like hello, grays overnight. I've got a million root cover products,
but sometimes the spray is annoying. It's a bit too
much because I've only got a tiny bit of grayze.
But it's still obvious. Most eye shadow palettes, if you
(17:53):
were brunettes, this supplies has a dark brown mat.
Speaker 1 (17:56):
Just use eyeshadow. I've been using.
Speaker 2 (17:58):
Dark brown eye shadow now almost exclusively because I've run
out of all my hair.
Speaker 3 (18:01):
Root cover ups and you know what, I can't see
one single grade, so and.
Speaker 2 (18:04):
You'd just like it's really precise. Yeah, and your roots
don't know. They're like, oh, hello, that's hat cook at
us with our hair stuff.
Speaker 3 (18:12):
That's not meant to be for our heads. That's the
whole point of host tag. And thank you so much
for listening. If you have a question, make sure you
dm us or email us and our producer will make
sure we answer it. You.
Speaker 2 (18:22):
Beauty is produced by Cassie Merritt with audio production by
Teagan Saddler. And We'll be back in your ears on
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