April 1, 2025 • 22 mins
Looking to inject more joy into your wardrobe? This week on Nothing To Wear, Leigh chats with Pip Brett, founder of Jumbled in Orange, NSW, about embracing colour when you're stuck in a neutral rut.
Pip shares her expert tips for finding your perfect shades, unexpected colour combinations that work beautifully together, and simple ways to incorporate brights into even the most corporate wardrobe. Plus, why shopping in-person beats online when experimenting with new hues.
Check out Leigh's article 'My favourite unexpected fashion colour combos (and how to pull them off).'
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Speaker 1 (00:10):
You're listening to Amma Mia podcast. Mamma Mia acknowledges the
traditional owners of land and waters that this podcast is
recorded on. Whoever said Orange is a new pink with seriously.
Speaker 2 (00:23):
Disturbed laurels for spraying groundbreaking? Oh my god, you have
to do it. You live for fashion.
Speaker 1 (00:30):
Hello, and welcome to Nothing to Wear, the podcast that
solves fashion problems and levels up your wardrobe. I'm Lee
Campbell and every week I talk to an expert who
helps us work out how to get more out of
the clothes we already own and tells us what is
and isn't worth adding to our wardrobes. Our guest today
is Pip Brett, the founder and owner of the award
winning store Jumbled in Orange, New South Wales. What began
(00:55):
as a small homewares store in twenty thirteen has evolved
into a destination concept store. It beautifully merges fashion, homewares
and even has a cafe. With a Bachelor of Design background,
and as a second generation retailer, Pip has really carved
out a distinctive niche that draws visitors from all across
Australia to her curated world. And today I'm going to
(01:16):
ask pep all about her love for color and how
those of us who are a little intimidated by it
can inject some into our wardrobes. Pip, firstly, welcome to
the show. And secondly, your background is hands down the
best background I've ever had on a virtual guest. That's
your real home.
Speaker 2 (01:34):
That's my real home. Thanksfully.
Speaker 1 (01:36):
You need to take a photo and sell that backdrop
on Zoom, because oh my god, it's beautiful. Now listen,
we're going to get into your world in orange, jumbled
and color in a moment. But I ask new guests
the same two questions. First, can you describe your style
in three words?
Speaker 3 (01:51):
I would say color, playful, and maybe like a sneadge ridiculous.
I think when I'm in my store, in my habitat,
people go, oh my god, you matched so well. But
when I'm at my kids basketball, I do look a
tad ridiculous, but they don't seem to care.
Speaker 1 (02:07):
I love that we've not had ridiculous before, and that
is so fun. Now they say that we wear roughly
ten percent of what we've got in our ardrobe ninety
percent of the time, so there's stuff we just love
pull out. I wonder if this is relevant for you.
But anyway, the stuff we reach for more than the
other stuff, what is that stuff for you?
Speaker 3 (02:25):
It's totally relevant for me. I always reach for dresses.
I love dresses that they're one thing I put on.
They're fabulous, they're a bit fun, they might be quite
special dresses. I try not to save things for special occasions.
I try and wear them all the time because life's
the special occasion. But yeah, dresses, there's like Alime cerely
(02:46):
b Palm now, so they'm my go tos and I
don't have to think.
Speaker 1 (02:50):
When prepping for this episode, I had Alime in the
back of my head all the time because that's one
of the most colorful brands I know. So I kind
of know you. Now we're going to talk about you,
your store and your love of color. I have to
tell you I went to Orange. I've only been to
Orange once because it's kind of like four hours out
of Sydney. It's that extra for a long weekend. But
the truth is I wanted to go to Jumble to
(03:11):
your beautiful store. And I went in and it was
as joyful as I'd heard and seen. And I bought
towels and I bought clothes, and when I came back
to the car, I think my toddler at the time
was napping, so my husband's had to stay in the
car and he goes color and I'm not really a
colorful person, but it was just so infectious, the beautiful
stock that you have. So congratulations on such an amazing destination.
(03:32):
And tell me how did Jumble come about and how
did it get to where it is now? It's an institution.
Speaker 2 (03:38):
Really, I'm the daughter of a failed minimalist.
Speaker 3 (03:42):
My mother loves color, and colour's kind of been that
continual in my whole life. So shared a clothing store
for twenty five years. He is now an artist and
we sell her work at the shop. I studied fashion
at UNI, but when I finished, I opened a clothing store.
So I started with fashion first and I think that's
been going for about nineteen years. And then Jumbled is
(04:05):
where we introduced home whares because I bought a home
and I realized I loved home weares as much as
I loved fashion. So it's all just under one roof
everything that I love all together, coffee, fashion, home color.
It started off as a really baby store and it's
grown into a massive, massive, store, And I think social
(04:25):
media and online has really been so pivotal in our growth,
and Orange is just a really cool place. It's always
been cool, but I think every year we're getting more
and more things. So I think Jumbled sort of been
put on the map, which is super exciting.
Speaker 1 (04:41):
I reckon that you put Orange on the map with Jumbled,
I've got to say, I really do. So. I loved
your three words, and I do want to elaborate a
bit more on your love of color. So your mum's
a failed minimalist? Is it because you were around it
when you were young? Have you always just been drawn
to it? Have you ever been scared of it? Because
I'm not scared of it. It just feels hard.
Speaker 3 (05:00):
It doesn't feel hard. It just feels like a natural,
innate thing in me that I just love color. And
I don't mean color for colour's sake.
Speaker 2 (05:09):
I don't.
Speaker 3 (05:10):
I am looking a little bit like a rainbow today,
but my house is colorful. But colour is used in
a really smart way. There's such a science to it. Yeah,
I feel like colour comes quite naturally, but I know.
Speaker 2 (05:22):
That for lots of people it doesn't.
Speaker 3 (05:25):
So like my greatest joy is when I show people
how to wear color or show them a color that
just like lifts them instantly.
Speaker 2 (05:34):
Color is super powerful.
Speaker 1 (05:35):
Yeah, it's a skill. It's like you can sing or
you can't. I don't know. It's like something that you're
born with. I mean, of course you can learn. But
if you're really passionate about it and you love it,
I think you're naturally good at it. But you're right.
You know your interiors and everything I see on your
amazing Instagram it's colorful, but it's curated. It's not just
a rainbow vomit. Let's talk about how you help people then,
(05:56):
because I typically stick to neutrals, and you help people
incorporate color. So how do you do that? I mean,
obviously physically in a store it's a bit easier, but
for listeners listening, where do we start?
Speaker 3 (06:08):
Even when you're in a store, don't even need to
try the peace on if you don't want hold it
up to your face and look in the mirror. Like knitwear,
at the moment is a really good place to add
some color into your wardrobe. Put it up to your face,
and when you find that color that lifts you, your
whole face changes, and it's super amazing. When you find
(06:33):
that thing and it's not just one color that's going
to suit you. And don't discount a whole color because
someone said, oh, you can never wear yellow, Because I
bet you there's a yellow that.
Speaker 2 (06:44):
You can wear.
Speaker 3 (06:44):
It might be a buttery soft yellow, or it might
be a neon, or it might be a mustard. I
so agree different tonal levels that you can explore, and
you just don't know if you don't try. But sometimes
you need to let a shop assistant guide you. And
not everyone's created equal, but sometimes just try because you
(07:07):
never know. And when you try that color, you will
get so many compliments.
Speaker 1 (07:12):
Yeah, I so agree with you because it's a spectrum
obviously for colors. But I've had people say to me
in the past, oh, you look really good in this
color or something about color, and it sticks with you subconsciously,
and then I'm like, why am I avoiding that? And
also my tastes have changed in my twenties. I might
have avoided certain colors and now I try them on
and I feel joyful, I look great. So if you
avoided it before, it's worth giving it another go.
Speaker 3 (07:32):
And I think even with your hair color changing, our
skin changing, the season's changing. I think back in the
eighties and nineties being a color consultant. Remember they'd rest
and you see it a little bit on Instagram. Now
back again, bring an autumn or winto Mum was a
fully qualified one of those, and lots of women will
(07:53):
carry those color swatches in their handbag and say, no, no,
I'm not going to try that on. I'm an autumn,
and then I wouldn't try on this beautiful springy green.
Speaker 2 (08:02):
But I'm like, give it a go, because I think
it does change over time.
Speaker 1 (08:06):
And even if it's not in your little flip book,
if it brings you joy, wear it.
Speaker 2 (08:10):
One hundred percent one hundred percent.
Speaker 1 (08:12):
But then it gets harder because we've held up something
to our face and it's a top, it's not a dress.
Then we're talking color combinations. You are so good at combinations.
I am okay. I get a lot of inspo from Pinterest.
So how do you know when colors quote unquote go together?
Speaker 3 (08:29):
I sometimes think the most interesting outfits and also interiors,
so coloring general are those that are put together that
don't not typically seem to go together. There's a weird
coloring there that shouldn't really work but it looks so
good together. In talking about the yellow again, like maybe
that buttery soft yellow with a really warm pink magenta
(08:51):
with a heit of red, you know, something like that
looks so great.
Speaker 2 (08:56):
Or pink and green.
Speaker 3 (08:57):
They used to say pink and green should never be seen,
but it looks so together. So I think when things
shouldn't go together, and that they do, I think that's
really exciting. But I also love color blocking. Color blocking
a whole outfit using the same tone of color that
may be playing with textures and tones.
Speaker 1 (09:16):
Okay, so that's like an all blue outfit, but it's different. Yeah,
textures and slightly different, but kind of all look uniform
so beautiful. So how do we do that? Say we've
got a skirt at home we love and it's a color.
Do we take that with a shopping and then try
on tops that we just wouldn't normally with that? I
do have colorful pieces, but putting them together is hard
(09:37):
and more of an online shopper, but I guess I
should go to the shops, take it with me and
see how it is irl.
Speaker 3 (09:44):
I think it is so good to go to a shop,
and I love it when people bring the item and
then at least you know it looks amazing with it
and you can be sure you don't have to go
back and return it. Online shopping is great. But things
that I see online or that I buy for the store,
and then when they come in they may not look
as good.
Speaker 2 (10:04):
They may not look good on me at all.
Speaker 3 (10:06):
I say, go back to the shops and give you
go beg because you know, there is such a joy
in the adventure of shopping. I think we've gotten that
a lot at our store. We work really, really hard.
Some people may see it as quite a traumatic process,
and I get it, We've all got hang ups. Everyone does.
But I love it when people walk out feeling amazing,
(10:29):
looking good. Because when you feel amazing in what you're wearing,
you walk differently, react to you differently, you talk differently.
It's like a magic there's just something the stars align
and you feel fabulous on that day. Especially now with
the change in denim silhouettes and the change in season,
(10:50):
it's a really good time to explore different looks, silhouettes
and colors for you.
Speaker 1 (10:55):
I couldn't agree more. And I think we jump online
and shop because we think it's efficient, but then it
turns up and it's not right, and then you got
to return. You know, maybe if you can just carve
out some time and like you say, if you're going
to step out of your cump zone with shapes or
with colors, do it irl and then you can make
that decision and see it in real life and it's
probably more efficient that way.
Speaker 2 (11:13):
One hundred percent.
Speaker 3 (11:14):
And even like yesterday, I just kept this most amazing
American vintage neon green knit and I am usually small,
but I decided to go the medium. I tried that
on and I was like, I love the feit of
that more and I love the color. I wouldn't have
bought the color until I tried it on.
Speaker 2 (11:32):
I was like, I have to have that. But I
think there's a lot to be said.
Speaker 3 (11:35):
For trying on different sizes as well.
Speaker 1 (11:48):
Do you plan your outfits? Because you always look colorful
and joyful but effortless and just amazing. Do you plan
out your outfits or does your personality pick every morning?
Speaker 2 (12:00):
I one hundred percent do not plan my outfit.
Speaker 3 (12:03):
I stand at my wardrobe in my beige brow undies
and decide on the moment, with ten minutes to be
out the door, my wardrobe is full of pieces that
I have tried on and I adore and I must have.
They're not following a trend, They're just pieces that I
(12:23):
just have to have. And my wardrobe looks really fun
and exciting. But I'm definitely dictated by my mood and
I want to go to work dressed like I'm going
to a party because I feel like that makes the
people around me feel good as well, and my staff
do the same thing. And I'm also dictated by what's
ironed as well. I'm not dining, so I'm like, I
(12:46):
would love to wear that, but I need to iron it.
Speaker 1 (12:47):
So at the honesty, I am the same. I'm like, oh,
the steamer's downstairs, you're staying in the wardrobe. But I
love that. I think you have a very distinct personal
style but it's not labored over and that you can
just go to that area and go. I love all
of this. I'm going to check on whatever and it's
very you. So do you see any differences in purchases
and shoppers across generations when it comes to fat that
(13:10):
come to Jumbled.
Speaker 3 (13:11):
Definitely, different ages have different requirements, but I feel like Jumbled,
the fashion that we get in is quite ageless. So
yesterday we have this amazing never Fully Dressed, which is
a label from the UK, this micro mesh dress. And
you would think that mesh would be clingy, but this
(13:33):
mesh dress is amazing. It's a six to an eighteen
and so I had a girl who was twenty by it,
and I also had a lady who was in her
seventies by it for a wedding and they both looked fantastic.
Speaker 1 (13:46):
Well, now I need to see this dress.
Speaker 2 (13:48):
Yes, I've got it.
Speaker 1 (13:49):
Get it here. That's amazing. Show me.
Speaker 3 (13:52):
I wanted to talk to you about color because I
have this same shaped mesh dress in two other colorways
and they're both really pretty, but it's this color that
works so beautifully.
Speaker 2 (14:05):
So it's a beautiful corn.
Speaker 3 (14:07):
Flower blue with a corally orange poppy print, and it's
that contrasting colors of orange and blue, and it just
looks so flattering on fair skin, on tan skin, gray hair, blonde.
This dress is all about the color of it, and
that's why it's so successful.
Speaker 1 (14:27):
And it just brings joy. Just looking at that fabric.
I feel joy.
Speaker 3 (14:31):
Yeah, and it's flattering. It has a beautiful bell sleeve.
But I just love it that a dress like that
spans so many different generations, so when someone from different
generations comes in, it's I just think, whoever the customer is,
is really important to listen, because listening is like the
kindest thing we can do understanding what people need and want.
Speaker 1 (14:54):
And it's interesting because that's why you've got so much
return business because I think you know when you're being
sold to and someone's saying that looks great to get
a sale, But when someone really invests in you and
listens to you and goes, okay, yep, you like this
or you're looking for that, that's the stores I go
back into and I subconsciously avoid some that I've had
the hard cell. So you do that so well. But
that dress also just inspired me because I'm more of
(15:14):
a separates these days. But I'm confused how to put
the colors together. But that could be a beautiful color
combination in the top and a bottom that deep vibrant
orange and a cornflower blue.
Speaker 3 (15:24):
Yes, So if you remember on your color wheel as
a kid, they're contrasting across from each.
Speaker 2 (15:30):
Other and that's why they always look so good to Yeah.
Speaker 1 (15:33):
So maybe you've got some colorful dresses just look at
the colors if you want to make separates work, which
is kind of a bit harder than a whole dress,
And there's your colors at work.
Speaker 2 (15:43):
Yes, exactly.
Speaker 1 (15:45):
Oh, maybe it's not so scary after all. One more
question before we get into boogie and budget. Some of
our listeners, or a lot of our listeners might work
in corporate environments. I mean, I'm an office worker, but
we can wear pretty much anything, and you have the
most drudful workplace on earth. How can we express our
personal style and maybe some color in.
Speaker 3 (16:02):
A corporate world we're talking about earlier. I love color blocking.
Yes it's cold. Blocking in corporate looks extremely exciting and
very polished. And I think it's fun to show who
you are and what you stand for and that you
have a bit of personality in a corporate environment. And
I think fashion is the perfect way to do that,
(16:24):
even if you're in quite a stiff environment. It's fun
to play and it's fun to shock, but it's also
it's amazing what the response will be from that. And
I quite like using color in a symbolic way as well.
When there's perfect times to wear red incorporate environments and
green and blue so you can use it in that
(16:47):
way as well. But I think color blocking is just
so so cool.
Speaker 1 (16:51):
You're so right, and I hadn't even thought of that.
I was thinking, you know, maybe someone could go from
gray and black to like aubergeene. But yeah, a beautiful
cold I know. I was like, that's so daring. But
a beautiful colbot blue color blocked, or you know, a
really rich, real be red phenomenal and still very polished.
Speaker 3 (17:08):
But even a beautiful aubugine blazer. You could play with
a lovely color on underneath, like it could be a
beautiful blush skivy, or play with a pink and red stripe,
or you could do other things. So you can keep
it quite simple but add some more interesting things, perhaps
with the top on underneath.
Speaker 2 (17:39):
It's very expensive.
Speaker 1 (17:42):
How old are these? Okay, let's move on to bougi
and budget. This is where we're both bringing something that's
more affordable, something that's a bit more expensive in the
color world. Let's have your budget first. What's your budget
item or.
Speaker 3 (17:57):
My budget item would be bracelets, because if it's something
that you want to just dip your toes into color
during the school holidays, it was raining at the beach
and I went and bought a b and bracelet making
kit and I had my boys who were twelve and ten,
and my nieces all make bracelets and they've made oh wow,
(18:19):
beautiful ones with their names on and if you put
them with your expensive pearls and your charms. So we
have this new brand called Boy friday In who handmakes
the coolest bracelets.
Speaker 2 (18:31):
You layer them, layer like a player legend.
Speaker 1 (18:34):
I love it.
Speaker 3 (18:35):
That is a really nice way to bring a little
bit of coloring if you're feeling like you want to
explore color a little more.
Speaker 1 (18:43):
Yeah, you're dipping your toe. I like that. And you
could even you know, you could buy some affordably, or
you could make your own and then you've got the
exact colors that you want.
Speaker 3 (18:49):
Yes, and it's so fun. The kids love that you're
wearing the bracelets.
Speaker 1 (18:53):
That I'm going to do that with my son. That's
a gorgeous idea. Well, my budget is a dress. And
I'm glad you said yellow because I wasn't sure. How
are you going to feel about this? They're calling it
cream on the website. It's not it's yellow, Okay. The
brand is fourth and Reckless. You can get it on
the Iconic and it's one hundred and thirty dollars. The
top's sort of just like a plain, kind of ribbed singlet,
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and then the skirt is like a flair Maxi skirt.
It's really beautiful. The reason I like it is because
I'm trying to only buy items that I can get
more wear out of. So going into autumn, I just
love a Maxi skirt with a big knit. So I
would just chuck a knit over the top and pretend
it's a skirt. I was going to say a grain
in it, but now, inspired by you, I might do
(19:34):
like a.
Speaker 4 (19:34):
Ruby red or fun or a mustard, a mustard or
it looks so good in that, I mean amazing at
the moment, an amazing American vintage knit.
Speaker 3 (19:46):
That's like carrying it like a ruby, beautiful red bean stripe.
Speaker 1 (19:52):
Oh yeah, that's joyful.
Speaker 2 (19:53):
So it would look great with the skirt.
Speaker 1 (19:55):
Yeah, and then you know, as it warms up later
in the year, I just wear it as a dress.
So it's kind of a two for one and it's
one hundred and thirty dollars. It comes in boring black.
I'm not going to recommend that because we're all about color.
All right, what's your bougie.
Speaker 3 (20:07):
Well, my bougie hasn't actually a it's due to arrive
any day. It's a Celia Bee dress. So she's a
Spanish designer and she's my all time fave designer. And
we only get one across in each size because they're
a bit special. Yes, And it's this multi colored check
dress that has like a love heart panel on the
(20:29):
front and it's all paneled and long and really cool
and very ridiculous but very fabulous.
Speaker 1 (20:35):
I love it. And now when you say it's on
the way, is this for the store or for you?
Speaker 2 (20:40):
I would say both.
Speaker 1 (20:42):
What an amazing job that you can like. Ah, I
think I need to buy that from myself. My bougie
is something I bought last year and I did not
pay full price. So, like you said, like the bracelets,
this is kind of a dipping a toe. They're green sunglasses.
I bought some Botaga Vanetta green sunglasses. There's a website
called iWar Index, and ordinarily, when everything's full price, it's
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very expensive because fancy brands are but a couple of
times a year they have an amazing sale. So everyone
should jump on and sign up. To their EDM database
and wait for the sale. They're back to full price
now eight hundred and ninety five dollars. Never in my
life would I pay that for sunglasses or pretty much anything.
But I got them late last year, think December, right
before them im I me a Christmas party because then
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I wore them and everyone said, oh my god, I
love your sunglasses. And then when I would take my
sunnies down, they'd make my eyes look clearly green, and
I was like, oh, this was such a gamble. I
paid two twenty in the sale, so from eight ninety
five to two twenty, I would never pay roughly nine
hundred dollars. But I think, to your point, a sunglass,
a bead, maybe a bag is a really nice way
to experiment and mix and match a bit more than
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a full on bright item if you're dipping your toe.
Speaker 2 (21:49):
One hundred percent.
Speaker 3 (21:49):
But isn't it the power of color When you take
down your glasses, Cinemiosis notices your eyes that you spend
every day with it work.
Speaker 1 (21:57):
And that's it. And I was like, oh, should I
take them? Oh it's the Christmas party, I'll go on.
And now when I reach for them, I feel joyful
because I received so many lovely compliments, so it wasn't
scary after all. Yeah, the Echo Pip your a joy
to watch, to talk to, to shop from. So thank
you so much for joining me or Nothing to Wear, Oh,
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Speaker 2 (00:23):
Disturbed laurels for spraying groundbreaking? Oh my god, you have
to do it. You live for fashion.
Speaker 1 (00:30):
Hello, and welcome to Nothing to Wear, the podcast that
solves fashion problems and levels up your wardrobe. I'm Lee
Campbell and every week I talk to an expert who
helps us work out how to get more out of
the clothes we already own and tells us what is
and isn't worth adding to our wardrobes. Our guest today
is Pip Brett, the founder and owner of the award
winning store Jumbled in Orange, New South Wales. What began
(00:55):
as a small homewares store in twenty thirteen has evolved
into a destination concept store. It beautifully merges fashion, homewares
and even has a cafe. With a Bachelor of Design background,
and as a second generation retailer, Pip has really carved
out a distinctive niche that draws visitors from all across
Australia to her curated world. And today I'm going to
(01:16):
ask pep all about her love for color and how
those of us who are a little intimidated by it
can inject some into our wardrobes. Pip, firstly, welcome to
the show. And secondly, your background is hands down the
best background I've ever had on a virtual guest. That's
your real home.
Speaker 2 (01:34):
That's my real home. Thanksfully.
Speaker 1 (01:36):
You need to take a photo and sell that backdrop
on Zoom, because oh my god, it's beautiful. Now listen,
we're going to get into your world in orange, jumbled
and color in a moment. But I ask new guests
the same two questions. First, can you describe your style
in three words?
Speaker 3 (01:51):
I would say color, playful, and maybe like a sneadge ridiculous.
I think when I'm in my store, in my habitat,
people go, oh my god, you matched so well. But
when I'm at my kids basketball, I do look a
tad ridiculous, but they don't seem to care.
Speaker 1 (02:07):
I love that we've not had ridiculous before, and that
is so fun. Now they say that we wear roughly
ten percent of what we've got in our ardrobe ninety
percent of the time, so there's stuff we just love
pull out. I wonder if this is relevant for you.
But anyway, the stuff we reach for more than the
other stuff, what is that stuff for you?
Speaker 3 (02:25):
It's totally relevant for me. I always reach for dresses.
I love dresses that they're one thing I put on.
They're fabulous, they're a bit fun, they might be quite
special dresses. I try not to save things for special occasions.
I try and wear them all the time because life's
the special occasion. But yeah, dresses, there's like Alime cerely
(02:46):
b Palm now, so they'm my go tos and I
don't have to think.
Speaker 1 (02:50):
When prepping for this episode, I had Alime in the
back of my head all the time because that's one
of the most colorful brands I know. So I kind
of know you. Now we're going to talk about you,
your store and your love of color. I have to
tell you I went to Orange. I've only been to
Orange once because it's kind of like four hours out
of Sydney. It's that extra for a long weekend. But
the truth is I wanted to go to Jumble to
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your beautiful store. And I went in and it was
as joyful as I'd heard and seen. And I bought
towels and I bought clothes, and when I came back
to the car, I think my toddler at the time
was napping, so my husband's had to stay in the
car and he goes color and I'm not really a
colorful person, but it was just so infectious, the beautiful
stock that you have. So congratulations on such an amazing destination.
(03:32):
And tell me how did Jumble come about and how
did it get to where it is now? It's an institution.
Speaker 2 (03:38):
Really, I'm the daughter of a failed minimalist.
Speaker 3 (03:42):
My mother loves color, and colour's kind of been that
continual in my whole life. So shared a clothing store
for twenty five years. He is now an artist and
we sell her work at the shop. I studied fashion
at UNI, but when I finished, I opened a clothing store.
So I started with fashion first and I think that's
been going for about nineteen years. And then Jumbled is
(04:05):
where we introduced home whares because I bought a home
and I realized I loved home weares as much as
I loved fashion. So it's all just under one roof
everything that I love all together, coffee, fashion, home color.
It started off as a really baby store and it's
grown into a massive, massive, store, And I think social
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media and online has really been so pivotal in our growth,
and Orange is just a really cool place. It's always
been cool, but I think every year we're getting more
and more things. So I think Jumbled sort of been
put on the map, which is super exciting.
Speaker 1 (04:41):
I reckon that you put Orange on the map with Jumbled,
I've got to say, I really do. So. I loved
your three words, and I do want to elaborate a
bit more on your love of color. So your mum's
a failed minimalist? Is it because you were around it
when you were young? Have you always just been drawn
to it? Have you ever been scared of it? Because
I'm not scared of it. It just feels hard.
Speaker 3 (05:00):
It doesn't feel hard. It just feels like a natural,
innate thing in me that I just love color. And
I don't mean color for colour's sake.
Speaker 2 (05:09):
I don't.
Speaker 3 (05:10):
I am looking a little bit like a rainbow today,
but my house is colorful. But colour is used in
a really smart way. There's such a science to it. Yeah,
I feel like colour comes quite naturally, but I know.
Speaker 2 (05:22):
That for lots of people it doesn't.
Speaker 3 (05:25):
So like my greatest joy is when I show people
how to wear color or show them a color that
just like lifts them instantly.
Speaker 2 (05:34):
Color is super powerful.
Speaker 1 (05:35):
Yeah, it's a skill. It's like you can sing or
you can't. I don't know. It's like something that you're
born with. I mean, of course you can learn. But
if you're really passionate about it and you love it,
I think you're naturally good at it. But you're right.
You know your interiors and everything I see on your
amazing Instagram it's colorful, but it's curated. It's not just
a rainbow vomit. Let's talk about how you help people then,
(05:56):
because I typically stick to neutrals, and you help people
incorporate color. So how do you do that? I mean,
obviously physically in a store it's a bit easier, but
for listeners listening, where do we start?
Speaker 3 (06:08):
Even when you're in a store, don't even need to
try the peace on if you don't want hold it
up to your face and look in the mirror. Like knitwear,
at the moment is a really good place to add
some color into your wardrobe. Put it up to your face,
and when you find that color that lifts you, your
whole face changes, and it's super amazing. When you find
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that thing and it's not just one color that's going
to suit you. And don't discount a whole color because
someone said, oh, you can never wear yellow, Because I
bet you there's a yellow that.
Speaker 2 (06:44):
You can wear.
Speaker 3 (06:44):
It might be a buttery soft yellow, or it might
be a neon, or it might be a mustard. I
so agree different tonal levels that you can explore, and
you just don't know if you don't try. But sometimes
you need to let a shop assistant guide you. And
not everyone's created equal, but sometimes just try because you
(07:07):
never know. And when you try that color, you will
get so many compliments.
Speaker 1 (07:12):
Yeah, I so agree with you because it's a spectrum
obviously for colors. But I've had people say to me
in the past, oh, you look really good in this
color or something about color, and it sticks with you subconsciously,
and then I'm like, why am I avoiding that? And
also my tastes have changed in my twenties. I might
have avoided certain colors and now I try them on
and I feel joyful, I look great. So if you
avoided it before, it's worth giving it another go.
Speaker 3 (07:32):
And I think even with your hair color changing, our
skin changing, the season's changing. I think back in the
eighties and nineties being a color consultant. Remember they'd rest
and you see it a little bit on Instagram. Now
back again, bring an autumn or winto Mum was a
fully qualified one of those, and lots of women will
(07:53):
carry those color swatches in their handbag and say, no, no,
I'm not going to try that on. I'm an autumn,
and then I wouldn't try on this beautiful springy green.
Speaker 2 (08:02):
But I'm like, give it a go, because I think
it does change over time.
Speaker 1 (08:06):
And even if it's not in your little flip book,
if it brings you joy, wear it.
Speaker 2 (08:10):
One hundred percent one hundred percent.
Speaker 1 (08:12):
But then it gets harder because we've held up something
to our face and it's a top, it's not a dress.
Then we're talking color combinations. You are so good at combinations.
I am okay. I get a lot of inspo from Pinterest.
So how do you know when colors quote unquote go together?
Speaker 3 (08:29):
I sometimes think the most interesting outfits and also interiors,
so coloring general are those that are put together that
don't not typically seem to go together. There's a weird
coloring there that shouldn't really work but it looks so
good together. In talking about the yellow again, like maybe
that buttery soft yellow with a really warm pink magenta
(08:51):
with a heit of red, you know, something like that
looks so great.
Speaker 2 (08:56):
Or pink and green.
Speaker 3 (08:57):
They used to say pink and green should never be seen,
but it looks so together. So I think when things
shouldn't go together, and that they do, I think that's
really exciting. But I also love color blocking. Color blocking
a whole outfit using the same tone of color that
may be playing with textures and tones.
Speaker 1 (09:16):
Okay, so that's like an all blue outfit, but it's different. Yeah,
textures and slightly different, but kind of all look uniform
so beautiful. So how do we do that? Say we've
got a skirt at home we love and it's a color.
Do we take that with a shopping and then try
on tops that we just wouldn't normally with that? I
do have colorful pieces, but putting them together is hard
(09:37):
and more of an online shopper, but I guess I
should go to the shops, take it with me and
see how it is irl.
Speaker 3 (09:44):
I think it is so good to go to a shop,
and I love it when people bring the item and
then at least you know it looks amazing with it
and you can be sure you don't have to go
back and return it. Online shopping is great. But things
that I see online or that I buy for the store,
and then when they come in they may not look
as good.
Speaker 2 (10:04):
They may not look good on me at all.
Speaker 3 (10:06):
I say, go back to the shops and give you
go beg because you know, there is such a joy
in the adventure of shopping. I think we've gotten that
a lot at our store. We work really, really hard.
Some people may see it as quite a traumatic process,
and I get it, We've all got hang ups. Everyone does.
But I love it when people walk out feeling amazing,
(10:29):
looking good. Because when you feel amazing in what you're wearing,
you walk differently, react to you differently, you talk differently.
It's like a magic there's just something the stars align
and you feel fabulous on that day. Especially now with
the change in denim silhouettes and the change in season,
(10:50):
it's a really good time to explore different looks, silhouettes
and colors for you.
Speaker 1 (10:55):
I couldn't agree more. And I think we jump online
and shop because we think it's efficient, but then it
turns up and it's not right, and then you got
to return. You know, maybe if you can just carve
out some time and like you say, if you're going
to step out of your cump zone with shapes or
with colors, do it irl and then you can make
that decision and see it in real life and it's
probably more efficient that way.
Speaker 2 (11:13):
One hundred percent.
Speaker 3 (11:14):
And even like yesterday, I just kept this most amazing
American vintage neon green knit and I am usually small,
but I decided to go the medium. I tried that
on and I was like, I love the feit of
that more and I love the color. I wouldn't have
bought the color until I tried it on.
Speaker 2 (11:32):
I was like, I have to have that. But I
think there's a lot to be said.
Speaker 3 (11:35):
For trying on different sizes as well.
Speaker 1 (11:48):
Do you plan your outfits? Because you always look colorful
and joyful but effortless and just amazing. Do you plan
out your outfits or does your personality pick every morning?
Speaker 2 (12:00):
I one hundred percent do not plan my outfit.
Speaker 3 (12:03):
I stand at my wardrobe in my beige brow undies
and decide on the moment, with ten minutes to be
out the door, my wardrobe is full of pieces that
I have tried on and I adore and I must have.
They're not following a trend, They're just pieces that I
(12:23):
just have to have. And my wardrobe looks really fun
and exciting. But I'm definitely dictated by my mood and
I want to go to work dressed like I'm going
to a party because I feel like that makes the
people around me feel good as well, and my staff
do the same thing. And I'm also dictated by what's
ironed as well. I'm not dining, so I'm like, I
(12:46):
would love to wear that, but I need to iron it.
Speaker 1 (12:47):
So at the honesty, I am the same. I'm like, oh,
the steamer's downstairs, you're staying in the wardrobe. But I
love that. I think you have a very distinct personal
style but it's not labored over and that you can
just go to that area and go. I love all
of this. I'm going to check on whatever and it's
very you. So do you see any differences in purchases
and shoppers across generations when it comes to fat that
(13:10):
come to Jumbled.
Speaker 3 (13:11):
Definitely, different ages have different requirements, but I feel like Jumbled,
the fashion that we get in is quite ageless. So
yesterday we have this amazing never Fully Dressed, which is
a label from the UK, this micro mesh dress. And
you would think that mesh would be clingy, but this
(13:33):
mesh dress is amazing. It's a six to an eighteen
and so I had a girl who was twenty by it,
and I also had a lady who was in her
seventies by it for a wedding and they both looked fantastic.
Speaker 1 (13:46):
Well, now I need to see this dress.
Speaker 2 (13:48):
Yes, I've got it.
Speaker 1 (13:49):
Get it here. That's amazing. Show me.
Speaker 3 (13:52):
I wanted to talk to you about color because I
have this same shaped mesh dress in two other colorways
and they're both really pretty, but it's this color that
works so beautifully.
Speaker 2 (14:05):
So it's a beautiful corn.
Speaker 3 (14:07):
Flower blue with a corally orange poppy print, and it's
that contrasting colors of orange and blue, and it just
looks so flattering on fair skin, on tan skin, gray hair, blonde.
This dress is all about the color of it, and
that's why it's so successful.
Speaker 1 (14:27):
And it just brings joy. Just looking at that fabric.
I feel joy.
Speaker 3 (14:31):
Yeah, and it's flattering. It has a beautiful bell sleeve.
But I just love it that a dress like that
spans so many different generations, so when someone from different
generations comes in, it's I just think, whoever the customer is,
is really important to listen, because listening is like the
kindest thing we can do understanding what people need and want.
Speaker 1 (14:54):
And it's interesting because that's why you've got so much
return business because I think you know when you're being
sold to and someone's saying that looks great to get
a sale, But when someone really invests in you and
listens to you and goes, okay, yep, you like this
or you're looking for that, that's the stores I go
back into and I subconsciously avoid some that I've had
the hard cell. So you do that so well. But
that dress also just inspired me because I'm more of
(15:14):
a separates these days. But I'm confused how to put
the colors together. But that could be a beautiful color
combination in the top and a bottom that deep vibrant
orange and a cornflower blue.
Speaker 3 (15:24):
Yes, So if you remember on your color wheel as
a kid, they're contrasting across from each.
Speaker 2 (15:30):
Other and that's why they always look so good to Yeah.
Speaker 1 (15:33):
So maybe you've got some colorful dresses just look at
the colors if you want to make separates work, which
is kind of a bit harder than a whole dress,
And there's your colors at work.
Speaker 2 (15:43):
Yes, exactly.
Speaker 1 (15:45):
Oh, maybe it's not so scary after all. One more
question before we get into boogie and budget. Some of
our listeners, or a lot of our listeners might work
in corporate environments. I mean, I'm an office worker, but
we can wear pretty much anything, and you have the
most drudful workplace on earth. How can we express our
personal style and maybe some color in.
Speaker 3 (16:02):
A corporate world we're talking about earlier. I love color blocking.
Yes it's cold. Blocking in corporate looks extremely exciting and
very polished. And I think it's fun to show who
you are and what you stand for and that you
have a bit of personality in a corporate environment. And
I think fashion is the perfect way to do that,
(16:24):
even if you're in quite a stiff environment. It's fun
to play and it's fun to shock, but it's also
it's amazing what the response will be from that. And
I quite like using color in a symbolic way as well.
When there's perfect times to wear red incorporate environments and
green and blue so you can use it in that
(16:47):
way as well. But I think color blocking is just
so so cool.
Speaker 1 (16:51):
You're so right, and I hadn't even thought of that.
I was thinking, you know, maybe someone could go from
gray and black to like aubergeene. But yeah, a beautiful
cold I know. I was like, that's so daring. But
a beautiful colbot blue color blocked, or you know, a
really rich, real be red phenomenal and still very polished.
Speaker 3 (17:08):
But even a beautiful aubugine blazer. You could play with
a lovely color on underneath, like it could be a
beautiful blush skivy, or play with a pink and red stripe,
or you could do other things. So you can keep
it quite simple but add some more interesting things, perhaps
with the top on underneath.
Speaker 2 (17:39):
It's very expensive.
Speaker 1 (17:42):
How old are these? Okay, let's move on to bougi
and budget. This is where we're both bringing something that's
more affordable, something that's a bit more expensive in the
color world. Let's have your budget first. What's your budget
item or.
Speaker 3 (17:57):
My budget item would be bracelets, because if it's something
that you want to just dip your toes into color
during the school holidays, it was raining at the beach
and I went and bought a b and bracelet making
kit and I had my boys who were twelve and ten,
and my nieces all make bracelets and they've made oh wow,
(18:19):
beautiful ones with their names on and if you put
them with your expensive pearls and your charms. So we
have this new brand called Boy friday In who handmakes
the coolest bracelets.
Speaker 2 (18:31):
You layer them, layer like a player legend.
Speaker 1 (18:34):
I love it.
Speaker 3 (18:35):
That is a really nice way to bring a little
bit of coloring if you're feeling like you want to
explore color a little more.
Speaker 1 (18:43):
Yeah, you're dipping your toe. I like that. And you
could even you know, you could buy some affordably, or
you could make your own and then you've got the
exact colors that you want.
Speaker 3 (18:49):
Yes, and it's so fun. The kids love that you're
wearing the bracelets.
Speaker 1 (18:53):
That I'm going to do that with my son. That's
a gorgeous idea. Well, my budget is a dress. And
I'm glad you said yellow because I wasn't sure. How
are you going to feel about this? They're calling it
cream on the website. It's not it's yellow, Okay. The
brand is fourth and Reckless. You can get it on
the Iconic and it's one hundred and thirty dollars. The
top's sort of just like a plain, kind of ribbed singlet,
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and then the skirt is like a flair Maxi skirt.
It's really beautiful. The reason I like it is because
I'm trying to only buy items that I can get
more wear out of. So going into autumn, I just
love a Maxi skirt with a big knit. So I
would just chuck a knit over the top and pretend
it's a skirt. I was going to say a grain
in it, but now, inspired by you, I might do
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like a.
Speaker 4 (19:34):
Ruby red or fun or a mustard, a mustard or
it looks so good in that, I mean amazing at
the moment, an amazing American vintage knit.
Speaker 3 (19:46):
That's like carrying it like a ruby, beautiful red bean stripe.
Speaker 1 (19:52):
Oh yeah, that's joyful.
Speaker 2 (19:53):
So it would look great with the skirt.
Speaker 1 (19:55):
Yeah, and then you know, as it warms up later
in the year, I just wear it as a dress.
So it's kind of a two for one and it's
one hundred and thirty dollars. It comes in boring black.
I'm not going to recommend that because we're all about color.
All right, what's your bougie.
Speaker 3 (20:07):
Well, my bougie hasn't actually a it's due to arrive
any day. It's a Celia Bee dress. So she's a
Spanish designer and she's my all time fave designer. And
we only get one across in each size because they're
a bit special. Yes, And it's this multi colored check
dress that has like a love heart panel on the
(20:29):
front and it's all paneled and long and really cool
and very ridiculous but very fabulous.
Speaker 1 (20:35):
I love it. And now when you say it's on
the way, is this for the store or for you?
Speaker 2 (20:40):
I would say both.
Speaker 1 (20:42):
What an amazing job that you can like. Ah, I
think I need to buy that from myself. My bougie
is something I bought last year and I did not
pay full price. So, like you said, like the bracelets,
this is kind of a dipping a toe. They're green sunglasses.
I bought some Botaga Vanetta green sunglasses. There's a website
called iWar Index, and ordinarily, when everything's full price, it's
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very expensive because fancy brands are but a couple of
times a year they have an amazing sale. So everyone
should jump on and sign up. To their EDM database
and wait for the sale. They're back to full price
now eight hundred and ninety five dollars. Never in my
life would I pay that for sunglasses or pretty much anything.
But I got them late last year, think December, right
before them im I me a Christmas party because then
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I wore them and everyone said, oh my god, I
love your sunglasses. And then when I would take my
sunnies down, they'd make my eyes look clearly green, and
I was like, oh, this was such a gamble. I
paid two twenty in the sale, so from eight ninety
five to two twenty, I would never pay roughly nine
hundred dollars. But I think, to your point, a sunglass,
a bead, maybe a bag is a really nice way
to experiment and mix and match a bit more than
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a full on bright item if you're dipping your toe.
Speaker 2 (21:49):
One hundred percent.
Speaker 3 (21:49):
But isn't it the power of color When you take
down your glasses, Cinemiosis notices your eyes that you spend
every day with it work.
Speaker 1 (21:57):
And that's it. And I was like, oh, should I
take them? Oh it's the Christmas party, I'll go on.
And now when I reach for them, I feel joyful
because I received so many lovely compliments, so it wasn't
scary after all. Yeah, the Echo Pip your a joy
to watch, to talk to, to shop from. So thank
you so much for joining me or Nothing to Wear, Oh,
thank you. Thank you for listening to Nothing to Wear,
and don't forget to sign up to the Nothing to
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