September 27, 2022 • 34 mins
On episode four of Off the Record, Dannie Rogers has a special co-host in Haley Graves, sports reporter and social media guru for the Detroit Tigers as well Lions’ WR Josh Reynolds’ fiancée, as they welcome Kyndra Decker to the studio. Haley and Dannie amplify Kyndra’s successful career as a chef that has gained a following on social media and includes publishing a cookbook by age 25 with husband and offensive lineman, Taylor Decker, as editor. Kyndra, Haley, and Dannie discuss the ins and outs of the NFL lifestyle including what Kyndra packs in Taylor’s lunch for work and how they balanced his time away from the team last season as he was rehabbing an injury. Stay tuned for later in the season, as Haley joins me once again to talk her successful career working in sports media for FOX Sports, Angel City FC, and the Detroit Tigers. She also reveals her favorite nickname given to fiancée Josh Reynolds from the coaching staff.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
This is Off the Record with Danny Rogers, a new
Detroit Lions podcast airing online social media platforms along with
Wherever You Listen to Podcast. I'm your host, Danny Rodgers,
and I'll be introducing you to some guests with pretty
amazing stories, to network reporters and writers, chefs, and some
of the Detroit Lions very own on how they've gotten
to where they are, the good and the not so good.
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Tune into Off the Record, airing every Tuesday. Today, We've
got double the Fund. Haley Graves, a talented reporter, host,
graphic designer for the Detroit Tigers, oh and wide receiver
Josh Reynold's fiance, is co hosting alongside me as we
welcome Kindred Decker to the podcast. Kindra is a talented
chef who has used social media to showcase her yummy
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cakes and delicious meals that offensive lineman Taylor Decker gets
to feast on at home. Kindra wrote her first cookbook
at age twenty five, called Kindra's Kitchen Made with Love
Not Gluten. Yes you should go buy it on Amazon
right now. And guests who was the editor of that
cookbook none other than husband Taylor. Here is Kindred's story,
So Kindred here do very soon. Yeah. I love when
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Taylor was at a press conference and he just gushed about, yeah,
did you did you see it? By chance? It was
he never tells me When they asked about me, I'm like,
really did they ask? Um? We do? And he answered
it and it was lovely and he was saying just
how excited you were to be a mom and that
your mom was going to come in and help because um,
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guesn't really plan very well? Yeah baby do. Oh you
could say that you did plan great because it's the
bye week. That's actually very lucky you plan to have
it on the bye week. So let's just go with
that crushed day, crush day before when the schedule came
out in May, they already just had an idea when
the bye week was getting Um, you're one of four
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offensive line families who are going to have a baby.
Very just crazy. But it's also very fun to go
through this because this is obviously my first baby. To
go through this with people that you like. And I
told you before the offensive line girls are so close knit,
just like the offensive line guys are you know what
I mean? So to have a group of girls that
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are like my genuine friends that are going through this
with me. Is so much fun. You've got big bee
yep um. The schools are going to have their first
baby as well, yep um. And then you mentioned Matt
Nelson yep their first baby. Oh my wait, so is it?
Nods are it's there? They're the vets in the situation. Yeah. Yeah,
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I've been asking her a lot of questions because I
love her kids. Her kids are so sweet and well behaved,
and I was like, teach me how Yeah. I think
there's ten lines players who are expecting. I believe it.
That's absolutely not to mention all of the toddlers that
this team already has or everyone around. We're a family
oriented facts, it's at it really runs deep here. Like
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you can say, oh, you know in the locker room,
they're very family oriented. No, it extends to the wives
in the significant other. It's it's deep here. Yeah, I'm
sure it does. Okay, So were you impressed with um,
did you see Taylor swadoling a baby here for media day?
I did actually impressed? Or were you shocked? I was like,
did great? Okay? And that was obviously his first time.
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I mean he has a huge family and you know,
but you don't really do that with other people's kids.
I mean you could, But what is his what's his
take on changing diapers? I feel like this is like
a big subject against couples because, for example, Josh's brother
has a child, did would not change diapers? Which just does, Yes,
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would not change diapers. I'm like, well, you don't get
told the baby. So what does y'all's take on the
whole diaper situation? Um, we haven't really talked about it,
to be honest with Well, that's probably a good thing. Well,
well he'll be at practice all day, I know, and
so like when he gets home, like that's diapers he is.
I mean I was really sick in the beginning of
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my pregnancy and he was such a good little housewife,
like I am. He was doting on me, hand and foot,
like nothing sounded good. So he would just list everything
off that we had in the fridge and I'd be
like no, no, yeah no, and he would just like
whip me something up like he was taking care of me.
It was so sweet. So that like um paternal like
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instinct was coming out of him. Then Yeah, and I
think when the baby's born, it's going to come out
and he's gonna want to do all that stuff. How
was it for you being sick and then being the
cook that you are, It sucked. Yeah, my god. I
couldn't cook for like ten or eleven weeks. I was
literally just laying on the couch like, oh my gosh.
It was horrible. Yeah, but I'm feeling much better now.
(04:45):
I got right back into it. It was it was fine.
We saw the cake he baked for a Taylor's birthday.
I looked deliciate, a little German chocolate cake. It's one
of his favorites. So what breakfast this morning? I'm just
running pressed. Um. He loves biscuits and gravy. Biscuits and gravy.
It is this all time favorite thing. We have to
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have that in the fridge at all times. Oh wow, yes,
so it's late for breakfast, lunch, and dinner. I agree
with all this. It's delicious. Yeah, I agree with all that. Okay,
so you are professionally trained as a chef. You mentioned
to us off camera, went to ASU for about a year.
It just wasn't your thing. No, I hated it. It
wasn't anything. I hated it. Yeah, like we're not going
(05:29):
to undermine this like I did not, Like I was
really unhappy there, and personally, I don't want to pat
myself on the back or anything, but I think it
takes a lot to kind of just get up and
be like, I'm really unhappy here. I'm going to leave
and do something I want to do, right, just recognizing like, yes,
this ain't for me, especially when all your friends are
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doing the university thing. They're all on rushing or what
it's called, doing the sorority thing, and it just wasn't
for me. I knew what I wanted to do, so
I did it. You did it, I did it. I'm
doing it. Yeah. Yeah. Cookbook by twenty five? Yeah? Is
that a goal? Did you set it? Like number on there?
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There wasn't a number on it, but it was something
that I've always wanted to do, Like that was my
dream when I started Kendrick's Kitchen, I was like, you know,
I want to have cookbooks. I want a line of cookbooks.
I want to and so that was something that I
was really passionate about and for it to just kind
of come to life last year, it was pretty incredible.
During the season two, right, you guys just don't stop around.
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And we were gonna do on this year too. We
were planning on it, but obviously things change. We were
going to work on a smoking meat cookbook and it
was going to be like a duel, yeah, like a
co me and Taylor doing it because he's really into
smoking meat on the trigger or the green egg or
what happy. So we were gonna do that, but obviously,
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with me being very sick during the offseason, smoked meats
didn't really sound that good. So we're gonna hold off
on that one. Maybe it'll be the next one. But yeah, yeah,
you'll have a one year old eating smoke to me,
right for sure? Right, Yeah, that's how it's go. Right.
Oh my gosh, make sure it's really that melt in
your mouth meat. Oh yeah, oh it always is. Taylor
would be offended that you would think he would make
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anything other than the going back to your school days?
Is that La corn on Blue? Ye? I feel like
we hear about those in movies like that being the
best cooking culinary school. Yeh. Ever, where are there different locations?
Where was it? There's a bunch of different locations. Obviously
the you know, really prestigious ones or but I'm too
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much of a homebody to venture out of Mike. I
actually almost went to Ottawa, Canada. Oh, because they have
they have a really good one. It's on like the
eastern Okay, I'm thinking from Arizona, but it's like right
above us. Okay. Um and god, what was I saying?
Pregnancy brain? You say, did you stay home? He stayed home? Oh? Yeah,
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So I was gonna go there. I applied for there,
I got into there, and then when it came down
to it, I was just wasn't ready to leave. Yeah,
so I went to the one in Arizona, which is
now since closed. So oh wow, it's kind of cool
that I got to go there. Yeah, because it closed
and now no one else can ever go there and
graduate again. Um. So yeah, I went there and it
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was awesome. I learned so much. Like like I said,
I was miserable, I assue, but with the Cordon Blue,
I looked forward to going to school every day. I
looked forward to getting up, putting on my checkered pants,
a little white thing, yep, my checkered pants, my little
chef coat. I had a little hat and what's it
called a cravat, this little like and clogs clogs, Yeah,
(08:48):
I assume for the kitchen spills. Yeah, because you don't
want to slep nowhere. Then you're like crocs or like
clog clocks. There's like a special kind of shoe. It's
like a chef shoe, and they're like they're like kind
of like clogs crocs like okay, sort of like in
between hybrid. Make a word for it, Yeah, a word
(09:09):
for it. But mine looked like little clogs and I
loved them. Do you have them still comfy? I might?
My mom might have them at her house. Okay, No,
I cook barefoot. Now we're in slippers. Lucy Ragnow always
makes fun of me because I wear slippers year round.
Why not? But in Arizona you have to because like
doesn't really get that cold. So why would you wear
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slippers if it's warm? Just cozy? I agree, No, I'm not.
I love to be cozy. I agree with this. What
was your day to day like in school there at
so it was interesting you had to pick a specialty,
so either like the cooking aspect or the pastry. I
actually went with pastry because at the time I was
(09:53):
making very fancy cakes. Yeah. I was really into making
like these very extra get cakes. I can send you
pictures of them. But like I made this giant hobbit
hole like it was like huge, Yeah, that's awesome. It
was really fun. And I made like a giant eye
of saw on, I made a dog. Oh what else
did I make? I made a bunch of them. There
(10:16):
was but like all working with fond in't and all
that stuff, and so I was really passionate about making
cakes when I first started going to the Court on Blue.
So I took the pastry route. And in the pastry
curriculum we didn't take like the meat classes or anything,
which sucked because I would have loved to do that,
but for me, it was more like the knife scales.
And then we moved on to like chocolate tiered stuff
(10:39):
and sugar work and fond didn't work. This is so fascinating. Yes,
So like every semester there was like a different class
like that, and it was it was so fun because
we just were we were like hands on every single day,
Like in the chocolate class at Kids, you know, I
came home head to toe covered in chocolate every single day. Yeah,
I smelled like chocolate all the time time. That's actually
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so cool and it was fun. I loved it. We
made these giant like sculptures and out of chocolate and
sugar and it was fun. You can tell I get
like really excited. You're like you are. Have you ever
thought about going on one of those like reality I've
been asking to I've been asked to time. Can we
submit an application for you after this interview? You've been
asked by the actual shows. I've been asked by UM
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the Food Networks, Baking Spring Baking Champions, please do it? Yes,
that would be so cool. I'm scared. I feel like no.
I feel like it's because I heard rumors that those
kind of shows were like reality TV shows scripted a
little bit, and they're scripted and there's like a winner
(11:45):
and they choose who. Yeah. I don't know for sure.
That's just what I heard. And I'm like, if I'm
going to go on there, like I'm gonna win it. Yeah,
I'm gonna go like they're not going to pick me
to win. So do they know they're not going to
win it early on? I don't know, Like maybe it's
like in contract details, like they decide like, hey, I'm
gonna put this in your contract. You're gonna be the winner.
(12:07):
But see, that's what I heard. But obviously I don't
know if it's true. You know, but I don't know.
I could see because you're like the face for TV.
So it would like, honestly make sense you would like
capture the hearts of America on a baking show, can
you imagine? Yeah? Yeah, And they're like, oh, you cooked
for at home a large offensive linement, right, it only
makes sense like you would actually be the ideal person
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for one of these shows. Okay, if you guys really
want me to maybe next time I'll think about it.
Put the put the brisket and the meats cook cook
on the side instead, Let's push forward to TV show.
They'd be like, okay, stack this teared cake together to
be like and then it would just like fall you
know sometimes there's disasters. Yes, oh yeah, it would be
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well are those scripted? Maybe someone knocks it over right,
They're like, hey, they pretend you can't find the eggs exactly. Yes,
they have to make it exciting, right, So I don't know.
I don't know if I'll ever trust the Food Network again.
I know, I'm sorry. Did he ruin it for you? No?
I'm still gonna watch it, but I'd love to see
you on there. Um maybe one day. Okay, it looked
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it seems like you you cracked the social media entrepreneurship
early on. The esthetic looks like it's going on like
six years strong. Oh yeah, but it's definitely evolved very much.
So so did you know social media was gonna like
help you? Um? Yeah, in a way. I actually started
on YouTube. Okay, so then you're an og. I don't
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think this YouTube exists anymore. No, it doesn't. I didn't
find it, no, and thankfully it doesn't. Okay. Oh my god,
I was so embarrassed. I deleted as videos A long
time ago. Oh Um. I would literally set up in
my mother's kitchen. I was like nineteen or twenty. I
was still going to I was still going to school
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at the time, and it was like a camera just
like this, and I would be like, hi, I'm Kendra
and this is my kitchen, and then I would I
would do all the editing and it was so bad,
but I loved it. And I would stay up like
all night like doing these like I don't even remember
some of the things I made, like cristatas and I
did cakes, and I did pizzas and like from scratch,
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like all this stuff, and god, I should send you
one of the videos just so you can like see. Yeah,
but um yeah, I would film it all myself. I
would edit it all myself, and I would put it
on YouTube and I would type the recipes out. And
that's where I started. I didn't even have like an
Instagram or anything in the beginning. I was strictly YouTube
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and I told myself, this is where I'm going to be,
Like I want to make cooking videos, yea. And it
just got to be way too much for me to
like do all by myself because oh it's a lot.
That's a lot. Yeah, And okay, so imagine me sitting
here cooking and then I'd have to cut and like
run around and like press the button and then come
back and like like that was me for like three years.
(15:00):
I did that. Oh my gosh. Yeah. Did the YouTube
page take off? Yeah, in a way, it kind of did.
And that's when I started. I made the Instagram, and
I kind of you know, they say that you have
to like have all these platforms and kind of connect
them all to kind of build them all together, nights together. Um,
so that's what I did. I made the Instagram. The
Instagram kind of started to take off more than the YouTube,
and it was way easier. Yeah. I wasn't staying up
(15:24):
till four am, like editing these videos that we're bad.
But maybe I don't think yourself enough credit here. No,
if you asked my mom, she'd be like, they were
so good, and you know, maybe they were for like
me being an amateur, yea videographer, if you could call
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me that. No, just show us one and world we'll
tell you. Okay, all right, I'll send one over if
I can find it. Um. But yeah, and then the
Instagram kind of started to take off more and it
was way weren't fun for me, and I had more
time and and then answered to reach out for like
collaboration things like Bob's red mold or flowers and stuff.
Oh yes, I did something with them for a while,
(16:09):
Ancient nutrition, the protein powder. Yeah. So it was just
way easier for me to kind of build up the
Instagram rather than the YouTube. And now I look back
from those YouTube videos and I'm like, why why did
I do that? That's no, it's still very impressive. You've
a massed a great following on Instagram, and like it
(16:32):
looks like you plan out every single post and everything
is very purposeful. It's a beautiful feed. Thank you. Do
you do that? I do? Yeah, Yeah, I might kind
of ocd about where things are placed sometimes I would
have never known that from your face. I don't know.
I kind of go crazy about it. Like there was
a point in time where I wouldn't like post two
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pictures of like myself next to each other. It would
had to make food me or like food food food me,
food food food me, you know what I mean. So
I'm since I've gotten much better about that, but yeah,
there was a point in time where I was like
very strict about because I feel like there was like
a good chunk of time that aesthetics mattered. Yeah, it
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did realistically on Instagram, Like that's your first impression that
people have of you is just looking at what your
feelings like, and so that was so important. No, I
respect you for it. I respect you for the details
that I didn't, but it kind of got to be
like kind of overwhelming, and I'm like, why am I
thinking about this when nobody really cares? You know. Yeah,
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So it's just so much easier just to kind of like,
let it go with the flow. And That's where I'm
at now. It's just kind of like, whatever I want
to put on there, I put on. Would you call
yourself a social media entrepreneur? I mean in a way
it's better than influencer. Oh yeah, No, I wouldn't consider
myself an influencer because I don't I don't like to
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influence people to do things but eat really good food.
But but eat really good food and cook things for
themselves and better people, Like you're bettering people, so it counts,
so you're calling me an influencer kind of. But I
will say that the term influencer does get a bad
rep these days, does it does? And I like, I
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don't promote products that I don't love. I don't really
promote much of anything anymore, but you know, things that
I'm not passionate about. Um, I get so many emails
every single day asking to promote this or that or
collaborate with this and make stuff with that, And I'm
just like, if I don't already use this, I'm not
going to. Yeah, have you thought at all with you know,
(18:44):
baby on the way, are you going to pivot your
content in any way to you know, incorporate different like
baby foods or lady on Instagram who does the lunches
for her kids, um where she packs them like yeah
in different and it's very like colorful and she makes
like awesome stuff every single day. Yeah that's me. Okay,
that's your goal, that's me. I can I appreciate it
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during training camp. I don't know if anybody else's but
I packed Taylor's lunches every day during training camp. But
he gets food here, Okay, yeah he knows. I know.
It doesn't stop me. But I pack his lunches every
single day because I don't know if it's just like
me wanting to like practice or we always have leftovers.
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I guess it's a little bit of both. But pack
his lunches every day and write him a little note. No,
I can understand. It's like you being a part of
his day. Yes, yeah, no, I completely can relate because
Josh's rookie here. We when I was like, I went
from this place of being consistently involved in football with
him to all of a sudden not knowing what his
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day was like. So I just started cooking, and like
that was like for me, the same thing, Like I
will cook him dinner every single night despite them having
dinner here. Also, oh no he comes home too. It
cooked me all. Oh it doesn't matter, yeah, because that
feels like my role in his life is cooking. Yes, yeah, yes,
completely understand. And it's something that you can do you
sit down and eat together when they exactly. Yeah, Like
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I love that. Like I don't know what I would
do if we didn't have like our dinner time at night,
you know what I mean? Yeah? What was in Taylor's lunches?
Oh god? Anything and everything? Was it like tupperware containers
like you said, like that woman you like she does
like the little compartments or its like PB and J's
like of shapes. I did some I did. I usually
do something saying I don't do like kids stuff because
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obviously I don't want him to feel like a child.
Very gun man. But um, I will pack like huge,
saying like we didn't meat ball subs on like this
homemade sour dough that I made one day, like stuff
like that crunchrap supremes, stuff like that, stuff that I
would have had the night before, and then just pack
in the morning, like I don't get up at four
um and like make this stuff obviously, but um, if
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we have like leftovers like that, why not pack it
for him to eat for long? Yeah? Because even though
they do get food, the big guy and he eats
a couple lunches sometimes you know whatever, I bet Yeah,
I know, I'm hoping on hard knocks. One day we'll
just see him snacking in the in the meeting room,
hopefully with a little lunch. Yes, yes, yeah, we do
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what the heck card knocks show him. No, we need
to get him a lunch box that says Kinder's Kitchen
on it, so then like while he's eating, it's like
set up with Kinder's kitchen and lunch box. Yes, please
make it happenday yesterday? Why didn't you tell me or
the day before? I could have had it, Like, I mean,
we get like stuff made for them with their name,
(21:38):
their number. Why can't he run why not on? Yeah?
Why can't he rep you on a lunch box? I
love that I have a cricket. We can make this happen.
Please do it, Oh my in just organically in the
slide it in. I'm in for it. If you guys
can convince him. Yeah, okay, we have to go back
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to you said, your passion for cooking and everything, and
it's led you and Taylor to having your time together
at home. So what started the passion for cooking in
the pastries? Oh gosh, probably my mom and my grandma,
if they were always I have in my cookbook actually,
I have these pictures of me like sitting up on
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the counter wrapping shrimp with bacon or getting my hands
in a cookie double. So I've literally been cooking since
I was able to use my hands and function like
a normal human. And that's why I want my little
girl to be too. You know, I'm gonna set her
up there and she's gonna get cooked right away. Yeah,
she's gonna take out a Yeah. So I guess that's
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where it probably stemmed from. And then in high school,
I was always the one to make cakes for people
and bring them to school. And you know, I was
that girl that would do that at lunch and kind
of embarrassing, but I loved it. I love to make cakes.
I love to make people feel special on their birthday,
and so I guess that's where it came from. And
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then this whole thing kind of just stemmed into me
loving creating recipes and I love the photography part of it.
So yeah, I don't know. Yeah, did you take all
the photos for your good book? They did, know, which
that was a that was an evolution for sure. If
you look back at some of my old pictures, they
(23:29):
were bad, really bad. But you know, with all things,
it's a process and you have to live and you learn,
and I mean, I can't even tell you how many
articles I read about food photography and food styling and
all this stuff, and I took courses, and I mean
it's hard. It was hard because you have to literally,
like let's say you have a cinnamon coffeecake here. You
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don't only need the cinnamon coffee cake. You need napkins,
you need utensils, you need like a little spatula, you
need cinnamon sticks, you need cinnamon, you need like granulated
sugar to sprinkle around. It's this whole thing sounds wonderful. Yeah,
I think it kind of goes back to like what
you're saying in the very beginning, like you just being
brave enough and bold enough to take the leap and
do it, and like it's kind of that's what has
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led you this entire time. For sure. That's I mean,
that's exactly what it sounds like. You're just brave enough
to do it. Yeah, and that's what you have to do.
And when you love something that much, you don't want
to be miserable your whole life and doing something you
don't love, right, you know what I mean? And so yeah, Okay,
just like Haley and Josh are balancing your guys is
crazy work schedules, you guys are balancing this as well.
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So how do you guys compliment each other in this
world of football? And then these beautiful cakes and recipes
that you post, well, I think the most obvious is
that he gets a lot of food, yes, and he
gets to keep on that weight with food that I'm making,
which makes me happy obviously, because not only do I
make him all these meals and it's not even it's
(24:57):
stuff that I'm making for you know, my page, but
he gets to eat it, which is fun. And he
said the other day, He's like, why are you always
asking me if it's good? Like I've never once not
like something you've made me. And I'm like, hmm, that's
a good point. I don't think you have. Maybe I
(25:17):
should try, yeah, like something you don't like. Maybe videotape
that just give him something that you know these world bros.
Have you seen those videos of the ladies who take
like soup but they put a ton of sal on
the spoon. Yeah, I have to that. Oh I had
a friend, but we'll never forget this. Third grade she
always was like our baked friend, right, brought brownies to school.
(25:38):
It was April Foles. She replaced the sugar and the
recipe with salt and gave him out to everyone. Yes,
just own humor because it apriles just for her own
humor of doing it. So you should maybe do that,
like mess with him, especially because you're so good at
page stretes, and like take one ingredient out or replace
it nice. He'd be like, let's just be watering. You'd
(26:01):
be like, oh my god, make it really funny. Oh
I love you should do that. Um, but yeah, I
would say that's probably the most obvious is that he
gets to eat all the stuff that I make, and um,
I always try and use really good ingredients and stuff
so that I know that I'm obviously fueling his body
with the best possible thing and mine also because I
gotta feed this little girl who's very hungry all the time.
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By the way, Yeah, you brought your banana and you're like, yeah,
hungry a lot. I have to take a break here soon,
I have my banana. Um. But yeah, I would say
that's probably the biggest thing is that he's hungry all
the time. Yeah. We always have food, fresh food, whatever,
uaying around. Yeah that sounds beautiful. Yeah. Um, it's a
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great marriage. I love that. Awesome. I mean how different
I mean we had we saw Taylor not um playing
every game last year. You know, he went through a
little a little adversity. Yeah, from your standpoint, was that
more time spent at home with you? Well, I don't
want to be you know, but yeah it was. And
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obviously that sucked. And they're never happy when something like
that happens, obviously, right, And it wasn't even you know,
he injured himself in the preseason, so it was like
he didn't even get to play in the first game
in the year prior he played every single snap. So
it was like very hard for him to go through
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that and not play in the first half of the year.
So it was hard. But it was a lot more
time spent at home with me and the dogs and
Um He helped me with the cookbook too. I mean
I have pictures of him sitting at my computer like
editing it. You know, like he was like my editor.
That's amazing. You don't have an editor. No, that Taylor's editor. Yeah,
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Taylor and my mom, Oh my gosh. So he I mean,
he was a huge part of the cookbook, and obviously
it was sucked that he had to be so much,
but it also helped me get the cook point fair.
I mean it almost kind of like as sad as
it would stay meant to be in a certain sense. Yes,
because what people don't realize is when the players are
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injured and they're you know, going to be injured for
consecutive weeks and a good chunk of time of season,
Like people don't realize that exiled is probably an extreme word,
but like they have they get put on their own schedule,
like they're no longer in those meetings consistently. They're essentially
don't totally feel like a part of the team and
so like. But for him, I'm sure to be able
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to still have you and help you with that in
a way probably helped his headspace a lot more than
you probably realize. For sure, I agree with that. I
didn't even think about that, but it makes me want
to cry. I see the face stop talking. Well, I
love it. Taylor just speaks to his mind a lot.
Like on Twitter last year, it was we knew it
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was difficult that he wasn't able to be out there
on the field, and so he let the people know
on Twitter and I'm like, retweet, you know, retweet you know,
And I told him he needed to do that. I
was like, it's just because a lot of times people
don't understand how hard it is. Like, obviously those guys
want to be out there. I'm always proud of him
sticking up for himself. You know what this guy's got
to do. Are you the call mean one or is
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Taylor more calm? I think we both called each other okay, yes,
in different ways. Yeah for sure. I mean we have
ways of calming down. Like we play a World of
four Craft. I don't know if you knew that. I
didn't know that. I didn't. Yeh, that's very It doesn't
seem call me well, it's it's just gaming in general.
It's like our pace, which is very strange. We both
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gamed for like a very long time. Interesting. I know,
but a lot of like almost every night we'll come
home and we'll get on and we'll like do some
quests or whatever, and very like grounding you were talking about,
like the Hobbit cake. Yeah, and the thing after that,
which I don't know. We're very nerdy. There's like a
different You're right, there's a nerdy side to this right now. Yeah,
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we're very nerdy. Um. That Hobbit cake was actually four
or am um a Hobbit? What was it? It was
like a premiere party in Hollywood that I got invited
to to make this cake? Is the lead on that one?
I was. I was so pumped about it because I
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love that stuff, Like I grew up loving Lord of
the Rings and the Hobbit and all that, and that's
one of the things we bonded over our first date.
We watched were The Rings. Oh my god, So it
isn't like a four hour long movie, okay, Yeah, when
we watched it start to finish, Yeah, you wanted that
day to last. Yes, I mean it was fun. Yeah,
we had a great time, and mostly because we were
watching my favorite movie. Like, it was a great time
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for me. After I was sitting there like reciting the
lines like you know, I mean it was just a
match made in heaven o Lord of the Rings. Yeah.
So gaming is like a very like peaceful thing for
us to do after a long day or whatever. And
so that's obviously something that calms us that we do together.
I'm picture time a little baby, Yeah, guys, Yeah, I
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mean that's probably happen. What other games do you guys like? Um,
last year we played a lot of Call of Duty,
which I'm sure you've heard of. We played with a
lot of the old line. Sometimes they all get on
the same sometimes you guys have your headphones. Yeah, and
I would always carry him. Does he stream? Did you
ever stream it? Like? I feel like this could be
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a really I know, I know we've like talked about
it and Taylor watch his twitch all the time. Um,
maybe that will be his you know path after football. Yeah,
we'll see, but he's good, so could be there's always
a path. Do you guys talk about that all the
path after football? A little bit? Um, not too much,
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just because we obviously don't know when that's going to be.
But I think that he would love to just take
a little break for a couple of years and just
focus on our family, Yeah, and then see where life
takes him. But he I know, he's really passionate about
working out in the offseason. Like that's like he loves
to just work out. And he goes to a gym
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in Arizona that he loves, He loves the guys that
are there, he loves the owner. Um, and so I
could see him being some sort of trainer or something.
And girl dad and al dad, Oh my gosh, does
baby girl have Do we know her name yet? Have
you revealed a name? We haven't technically revealed it, but
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if I think we're pretty you know it, I'll tell
you after we're pretty set. We're pretty set on it.
It's like, but I kind of feel like you can't
really name a baby until you see their little face,
until you meet her. Well what if you see your
face and you're like, no, that's not gonna Well, I
have a whole list. Okay, we'll go down a list. Okay,
we'll figure it out. How quickly will you bring baby
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girl to a game? I was talking about the girls
with about that because obviously everyone's kind of having a
beauty right now. Um, I don't know if I will
take her to one this year. I might take her
to like the very last home game, if Taylor really
wants me to. But I mean they're just so small
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and it's loud. She'd only be about three months even so,
I don't know. We'll see. I would love to, but
next season might be her stride. Next season's gonna be awesome.
It's gonna be sweet. I'm gonna get her all the
Lions gear. I'm gonna get her on the cub cam.
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It's gonna be there. That honestly is like some of
the goals the highlights. Yes, yes, and every NFL stadium
does it and you can't. Yeah, that was my first
Lions game. I was sold. When I saw the cupcam,
I was sold. Yes, it is Detroit very You just
listen to another episode of Off the Record with Danny Rogers.
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A new episode drops every Tuesday.
This is Off the Record with Danny Rogers, a new
Detroit Lions podcast airing online social media platforms along with
Wherever You Listen to Podcast. I'm your host, Danny Rodgers,
and I'll be introducing you to some guests with pretty
amazing stories, to network reporters and writers, chefs, and some
of the Detroit Lions very own on how they've gotten
to where they are, the good and the not so good.
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Tune into Off the Record, airing every Tuesday. Today, We've
got double the Fund. Haley Graves, a talented reporter, host,
graphic designer for the Detroit Tigers, oh and wide receiver
Josh Reynold's fiance, is co hosting alongside me as we
welcome Kindred Decker to the podcast. Kindra is a talented
chef who has used social media to showcase her yummy
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cakes and delicious meals that offensive lineman Taylor Decker gets
to feast on at home. Kindra wrote her first cookbook
at age twenty five, called Kindra's Kitchen Made with Love
Not Gluten. Yes you should go buy it on Amazon
right now. And guests who was the editor of that
cookbook none other than husband Taylor. Here is Kindred's story,
So Kindred here do very soon. Yeah. I love when
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Taylor was at a press conference and he just gushed about, yeah,
did you did you see it? By chance? It was
he never tells me When they asked about me, I'm like,
really did they ask? Um? We do? And he answered
it and it was lovely and he was saying just
how excited you were to be a mom and that
your mom was going to come in and help because um,
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guesn't really plan very well? Yeah baby do. Oh you
could say that you did plan great because it's the
bye week. That's actually very lucky you plan to have
it on the bye week. So let's just go with
that crushed day, crush day before when the schedule came
out in May, they already just had an idea when
the bye week was getting Um, you're one of four
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offensive line families who are going to have a baby.
Very just crazy. But it's also very fun to go
through this because this is obviously my first baby. To
go through this with people that you like. And I
told you before the offensive line girls are so close knit,
just like the offensive line guys are you know what
I mean? So to have a group of girls that
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are like my genuine friends that are going through this
with me. Is so much fun. You've got big bee
yep um. The schools are going to have their first
baby as well, yep um. And then you mentioned Matt
Nelson yep their first baby. Oh my wait, so is it?
Nods are it's there? They're the vets in the situation. Yeah. Yeah,
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I've been asking her a lot of questions because I
love her kids. Her kids are so sweet and well behaved,
and I was like, teach me how Yeah. I think
there's ten lines players who are expecting. I believe it.
That's absolutely not to mention all of the toddlers that
this team already has or everyone around. We're a family
oriented facts, it's at it really runs deep here. Like
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you can say, oh, you know in the locker room,
they're very family oriented. No, it extends to the wives
in the significant other. It's it's deep here. Yeah, I'm
sure it does. Okay, So were you impressed with um,
did you see Taylor swadoling a baby here for media day?
I did actually impressed? Or were you shocked? I was like,
did great? Okay? And that was obviously his first time.
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I mean he has a huge family and you know,
but you don't really do that with other people's kids.
I mean you could, But what is his what's his
take on changing diapers? I feel like this is like
a big subject against couples because, for example, Josh's brother
has a child, did would not change diapers? Which just does, Yes,
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would not change diapers. I'm like, well, you don't get
told the baby. So what does y'all's take on the
whole diaper situation? Um, we haven't really talked about it,
to be honest with Well, that's probably a good thing. Well,
well he'll be at practice all day, I know, and
so like when he gets home, like that's diapers he is.
I mean I was really sick in the beginning of
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my pregnancy and he was such a good little housewife,
like I am. He was doting on me, hand and foot,
like nothing sounded good. So he would just list everything
off that we had in the fridge and I'd be
like no, no, yeah no, and he would just like
whip me something up like he was taking care of me.
It was so sweet. So that like um paternal like
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instinct was coming out of him. Then Yeah, and I
think when the baby's born, it's going to come out
and he's gonna want to do all that stuff. How
was it for you being sick and then being the
cook that you are, It sucked. Yeah, my god. I
couldn't cook for like ten or eleven weeks. I was
literally just laying on the couch like, oh my gosh.
It was horrible. Yeah, but I'm feeling much better now.
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I got right back into it. It was it was fine.
We saw the cake he baked for a Taylor's birthday.
I looked deliciate, a little German chocolate cake. It's one
of his favorites. So what breakfast this morning? I'm just
running pressed. Um. He loves biscuits and gravy. Biscuits and gravy.
It is this all time favorite thing. We have to
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have that in the fridge at all times. Oh wow, yes,
so it's late for breakfast, lunch, and dinner. I agree
with all this. It's delicious. Yeah, I agree with all that. Okay,
so you are professionally trained as a chef. You mentioned
to us off camera, went to ASU for about a year.
It just wasn't your thing. No, I hated it. It
wasn't anything. I hated it. Yeah, like we're not going
(05:29):
to undermine this like I did not, Like I was
really unhappy there, and personally, I don't want to pat
myself on the back or anything, but I think it
takes a lot to kind of just get up and
be like, I'm really unhappy here. I'm going to leave
and do something I want to do, right, just recognizing like, yes,
this ain't for me, especially when all your friends are
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doing the university thing. They're all on rushing or what
it's called, doing the sorority thing, and it just wasn't
for me. I knew what I wanted to do, so
I did it. You did it, I did it. I'm
doing it. Yeah. Yeah. Cookbook by twenty five? Yeah? Is
that a goal? Did you set it? Like number on there?
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There wasn't a number on it, but it was something
that I've always wanted to do, Like that was my
dream when I started Kendrick's Kitchen, I was like, you know,
I want to have cookbooks. I want a line of cookbooks.
I want to and so that was something that I
was really passionate about and for it to just kind
of come to life last year, it was pretty incredible.
During the season two, right, you guys just don't stop around.
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And we were gonna do on this year too. We
were planning on it, but obviously things change. We were
going to work on a smoking meat cookbook and it
was going to be like a duel, yeah, like a
co me and Taylor doing it because he's really into
smoking meat on the trigger or the green egg or
what happy. So we were gonna do that, but obviously,
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with me being very sick during the offseason, smoked meats
didn't really sound that good. So we're gonna hold off
on that one. Maybe it'll be the next one. But yeah, yeah,
you'll have a one year old eating smoke to me,
right for sure? Right, Yeah, that's how it's go. Right.
Oh my gosh, make sure it's really that melt in
your mouth meat. Oh yeah, oh it always is. Taylor
would be offended that you would think he would make
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anything other than the going back to your school days?
Is that La corn on Blue? Ye? I feel like
we hear about those in movies like that being the
best cooking culinary school. Yeh. Ever, where are there different locations?
Where was it? There's a bunch of different locations. Obviously
the you know, really prestigious ones or but I'm too
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much of a homebody to venture out of Mike. I
actually almost went to Ottawa, Canada. Oh, because they have
they have a really good one. It's on like the
eastern Okay, I'm thinking from Arizona, but it's like right
above us. Okay. Um and god, what was I saying?
Pregnancy brain? You say, did you stay home? He stayed home? Oh? Yeah,
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So I was gonna go there. I applied for there,
I got into there, and then when it came down
to it, I was just wasn't ready to leave. Yeah,
so I went to the one in Arizona, which is
now since closed. So oh wow, it's kind of cool
that I got to go there. Yeah, because it closed
and now no one else can ever go there and
graduate again. Um. So yeah, I went there and it
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was awesome. I learned so much. Like like I said,
I was miserable, I assue, but with the Cordon Blue,
I looked forward to going to school every day. I
looked forward to getting up, putting on my checkered pants,
a little white thing, yep, my checkered pants, my little
chef coat. I had a little hat and what's it
called a cravat, this little like and clogs clogs, Yeah,
(08:48):
I assume for the kitchen spills. Yeah, because you don't
want to slep nowhere. Then you're like crocs or like
clog clocks. There's like a special kind of shoe. It's
like a chef shoe, and they're like they're like kind
of like clogs crocs like okay, sort of like in
between hybrid. Make a word for it, Yeah, a word
(09:09):
for it. But mine looked like little clogs and I
loved them. Do you have them still comfy? I might?
My mom might have them at her house. Okay, No,
I cook barefoot. Now we're in slippers. Lucy Ragnow always
makes fun of me because I wear slippers year round.
Why not? But in Arizona you have to because like
doesn't really get that cold. So why would you wear
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slippers if it's warm? Just cozy? I agree, No, I'm not.
I love to be cozy. I agree with this. What
was your day to day like in school there at
so it was interesting you had to pick a specialty,
so either like the cooking aspect or the pastry. I
actually went with pastry because at the time I was
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making very fancy cakes. Yeah. I was really into making
like these very extra get cakes. I can send you
pictures of them. But like I made this giant hobbit
hole like it was like huge, Yeah, that's awesome. It
was really fun. And I made like a giant eye
of saw on, I made a dog. Oh what else
did I make? I made a bunch of them. There
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was but like all working with fond in't and all
that stuff, and so I was really passionate about making
cakes when I first started going to the Court on Blue.
So I took the pastry route. And in the pastry
curriculum we didn't take like the meat classes or anything,
which sucked because I would have loved to do that,
but for me, it was more like the knife scales.
And then we moved on to like chocolate tiered stuff
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and sugar work and fond didn't work. This is so fascinating. Yes,
So like every semester there was like a different class
like that, and it was it was so fun because
we just were we were like hands on every single day,
Like in the chocolate class at Kids, you know, I
came home head to toe covered in chocolate every single day. Yeah,
I smelled like chocolate all the time time. That's actually
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so cool and it was fun. I loved it. We
made these giant like sculptures and out of chocolate and
sugar and it was fun. You can tell I get
like really excited. You're like you are. Have you ever
thought about going on one of those like reality I've
been asking to I've been asked to time. Can we
submit an application for you after this interview? You've been
asked by the actual shows. I've been asked by UM
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the Food Networks, Baking Spring Baking Champions, please do it? Yes,
that would be so cool. I'm scared. I feel like no.
I feel like it's because I heard rumors that those
kind of shows were like reality TV shows scripted a
little bit, and they're scripted and there's like a winner
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and they choose who. Yeah. I don't know for sure.
That's just what I heard. And I'm like, if I'm
going to go on there, like I'm gonna win it. Yeah,
I'm gonna go like they're not going to pick me
to win. So do they know they're not going to
win it early on? I don't know, Like maybe it's
like in contract details, like they decide like, hey, I'm
gonna put this in your contract. You're gonna be the winner.
(12:07):
But see, that's what I heard. But obviously I don't
know if it's true. You know, but I don't know.
I could see because you're like the face for TV.
So it would like, honestly make sense you would like
capture the hearts of America on a baking show, can
you imagine? Yeah? Yeah, And they're like, oh, you cooked
for at home a large offensive linement, right, it only
makes sense like you would actually be the ideal person
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for one of these shows. Okay, if you guys really
want me to maybe next time I'll think about it.
Put the put the brisket and the meats cook cook
on the side instead, Let's push forward to TV show.
They'd be like, okay, stack this teared cake together to
be like and then it would just like fall you
know sometimes there's disasters. Yes, oh yeah, it would be
(12:49):
well are those scripted? Maybe someone knocks it over right,
They're like, hey, they pretend you can't find the eggs exactly. Yes,
they have to make it exciting, right, So I don't know.
I don't know if I'll ever trust the Food Network again.
I know, I'm sorry. Did he ruin it for you? No?
I'm still gonna watch it, but I'd love to see
you on there. Um maybe one day. Okay, it looked
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it seems like you you cracked the social media entrepreneurship
early on. The esthetic looks like it's going on like
six years strong. Oh yeah, but it's definitely evolved very much.
So so did you know social media was gonna like
help you? Um? Yeah, in a way. I actually started
on YouTube. Okay, so then you're an og. I don't
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think this YouTube exists anymore. No, it doesn't. I didn't
find it, no, and thankfully it doesn't. Okay. Oh my god,
I was so embarrassed. I deleted as videos A long
time ago. Oh Um. I would literally set up in
my mother's kitchen. I was like nineteen or twenty. I
was still going to I was still going to school
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at the time, and it was like a camera just
like this, and I would be like, hi, I'm Kendra
and this is my kitchen, and then I would I
would do all the editing and it was so bad,
but I loved it. And I would stay up like
all night like doing these like I don't even remember
some of the things I made, like cristatas and I
did cakes, and I did pizzas and like from scratch,
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like all this stuff, and god, I should send you
one of the videos just so you can like see. Yeah,
but um yeah, I would film it all myself. I
would edit it all myself, and I would put it
on YouTube and I would type the recipes out. And
that's where I started. I didn't even have like an
Instagram or anything in the beginning. I was strictly YouTube
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and I told myself, this is where I'm going to be,
Like I want to make cooking videos, yea. And it
just got to be way too much for me to
like do all by myself because oh it's a lot.
That's a lot. Yeah, And okay, so imagine me sitting
here cooking and then I'd have to cut and like
run around and like press the button and then come
back and like like that was me for like three years.
(15:00):
I did that. Oh my gosh. Yeah. Did the YouTube
page take off? Yeah, in a way, it kind of did.
And that's when I started. I made the Instagram, and
I kind of you know, they say that you have
to like have all these platforms and kind of connect
them all to kind of build them all together, nights together. Um,
so that's what I did. I made the Instagram. The
Instagram kind of started to take off more than the YouTube,
and it was way easier. Yeah. I wasn't staying up
(15:24):
till four am, like editing these videos that we're bad.
But maybe I don't think yourself enough credit here. No,
if you asked my mom, she'd be like, they were
so good, and you know, maybe they were for like
me being an amateur, yea videographer, if you could call
(15:45):
me that. No, just show us one and world we'll
tell you. Okay, all right, I'll send one over if
I can find it. Um. But yeah, and then the
Instagram kind of started to take off more and it
was way weren't fun for me, and I had more
time and and then answered to reach out for like
collaboration things like Bob's red mold or flowers and stuff.
Oh yes, I did something with them for a while,
(16:09):
Ancient nutrition, the protein powder. Yeah. So it was just
way easier for me to kind of build up the
Instagram rather than the YouTube. And now I look back
from those YouTube videos and I'm like, why why did
I do that? That's no, it's still very impressive. You've
a massed a great following on Instagram, and like it
(16:32):
looks like you plan out every single post and everything
is very purposeful. It's a beautiful feed. Thank you. Do
you do that? I do? Yeah, Yeah, I might kind
of ocd about where things are placed sometimes I would
have never known that from your face. I don't know.
I kind of go crazy about it. Like there was
a point in time where I wouldn't like post two
(16:53):
pictures of like myself next to each other. It would
had to make food me or like food food food me,
food food food me, you know what I mean. So
I'm since I've gotten much better about that, but yeah,
there was a point in time where I was like
very strict about because I feel like there was like
a good chunk of time that aesthetics mattered. Yeah, it
(17:14):
did realistically on Instagram, Like that's your first impression that
people have of you is just looking at what your
feelings like, and so that was so important. No, I
respect you for it. I respect you for the details
that I didn't, but it kind of got to be
like kind of overwhelming, and I'm like, why am I
thinking about this when nobody really cares? You know. Yeah,
(17:36):
So it's just so much easier just to kind of like,
let it go with the flow. And That's where I'm
at now. It's just kind of like, whatever I want
to put on there, I put on. Would you call
yourself a social media entrepreneur? I mean in a way
it's better than influencer. Oh yeah, No, I wouldn't consider
myself an influencer because I don't I don't like to
(17:59):
influence people to do things but eat really good food.
But but eat really good food and cook things for
themselves and better people, Like you're bettering people, so it counts,
so you're calling me an influencer kind of. But I
will say that the term influencer does get a bad
rep these days, does it does? And I like, I
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don't promote products that I don't love. I don't really
promote much of anything anymore, but you know, things that
I'm not passionate about. Um, I get so many emails
every single day asking to promote this or that or
collaborate with this and make stuff with that, And I'm
just like, if I don't already use this, I'm not
going to. Yeah, have you thought at all with you know,
(18:44):
baby on the way, are you going to pivot your
content in any way to you know, incorporate different like
baby foods or lady on Instagram who does the lunches
for her kids, um where she packs them like yeah
in different and it's very like colorful and she makes
like awesome stuff every single day. Yeah that's me. Okay,
that's your goal, that's me. I can I appreciate it
(19:07):
during training camp. I don't know if anybody else's but
I packed Taylor's lunches every day during training camp. But
he gets food here, Okay, yeah he knows. I know.
It doesn't stop me. But I pack his lunches every
single day because I don't know if it's just like
me wanting to like practice or we always have leftovers.
(19:30):
I guess it's a little bit of both. But pack
his lunches every day and write him a little note. No,
I can understand. It's like you being a part of
his day. Yes, yeah, no, I completely can relate because
Josh's rookie here. We when I was like, I went
from this place of being consistently involved in football with
him to all of a sudden not knowing what his
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day was like. So I just started cooking, and like
that was like for me, the same thing, Like I
will cook him dinner every single night despite them having
dinner here. Also, oh no he comes home too. It
cooked me all. Oh it doesn't matter, yeah, because that
feels like my role in his life is cooking. Yes, yeah, yes,
completely understand. And it's something that you can do you
sit down and eat together when they exactly. Yeah, Like
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I love that. Like I don't know what I would
do if we didn't have like our dinner time at night,
you know what I mean? Yeah? What was in Taylor's lunches?
Oh god? Anything and everything? Was it like tupperware containers
like you said, like that woman you like she does
like the little compartments or its like PB and J's
like of shapes. I did some I did. I usually
do something saying I don't do like kids stuff because
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obviously I don't want him to feel like a child.
Very gun man. But um, I will pack like huge,
saying like we didn't meat ball subs on like this
homemade sour dough that I made one day, like stuff
like that crunchrap supremes, stuff like that, stuff that I
would have had the night before, and then just pack
in the morning, like I don't get up at four
um and like make this stuff obviously, but um, if
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we have like leftovers like that, why not pack it
for him to eat for long? Yeah? Because even though
they do get food, the big guy and he eats
a couple lunches sometimes you know whatever, I bet Yeah,
I know, I'm hoping on hard knocks. One day we'll
just see him snacking in the in the meeting room,
hopefully with a little lunch. Yes, yes, yeah, we do
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what the heck card knocks show him. No, we need
to get him a lunch box that says Kinder's Kitchen
on it, so then like while he's eating, it's like
set up with Kinder's kitchen and lunch box. Yes, please
make it happenday yesterday? Why didn't you tell me or
the day before? I could have had it, Like, I mean,
we get like stuff made for them with their name,
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their number. Why can't he run why not on? Yeah?
Why can't he rep you on a lunch box? I
love that I have a cricket. We can make this happen.
Please do it, Oh my in just organically in the
slide it in. I'm in for it. If you guys
can convince him. Yeah, okay, we have to go back
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to you said, your passion for cooking and everything, and
it's led you and Taylor to having your time together
at home. So what started the passion for cooking in
the pastries? Oh gosh, probably my mom and my grandma,
if they were always I have in my cookbook actually,
I have these pictures of me like sitting up on
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the counter wrapping shrimp with bacon or getting my hands
in a cookie double. So I've literally been cooking since
I was able to use my hands and function like
a normal human. And that's why I want my little
girl to be too. You know, I'm gonna set her
up there and she's gonna get cooked right away. Yeah,
she's gonna take out a Yeah. So I guess that's
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where it probably stemmed from. And then in high school,
I was always the one to make cakes for people
and bring them to school. And you know, I was
that girl that would do that at lunch and kind
of embarrassing, but I loved it. I love to make cakes.
I love to make people feel special on their birthday,
and so I guess that's where it came from. And
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then this whole thing kind of just stemmed into me
loving creating recipes and I love the photography part of it.
So yeah, I don't know. Yeah, did you take all
the photos for your good book? They did, know, which
that was a that was an evolution for sure. If
you look back at some of my old pictures, they
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were bad, really bad. But you know, with all things,
it's a process and you have to live and you learn,
and I mean, I can't even tell you how many
articles I read about food photography and food styling and
all this stuff, and I took courses, and I mean
it's hard. It was hard because you have to literally,
like let's say you have a cinnamon coffeecake here. You
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don't only need the cinnamon coffee cake. You need napkins,
you need utensils, you need like a little spatula, you
need cinnamon sticks, you need cinnamon, you need like granulated
sugar to sprinkle around. It's this whole thing sounds wonderful. Yeah,
I think it kind of goes back to like what
you're saying in the very beginning, like you just being
brave enough and bold enough to take the leap and
do it, and like it's kind of that's what has
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led you this entire time. For sure. That's I mean,
that's exactly what it sounds like. You're just brave enough
to do it. Yeah, and that's what you have to do.
And when you love something that much, you don't want
to be miserable your whole life and doing something you
don't love, right, you know what I mean? And so yeah, Okay,
just like Haley and Josh are balancing your guys is
crazy work schedules, you guys are balancing this as well.
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So how do you guys compliment each other in this
world of football? And then these beautiful cakes and recipes
that you post, well, I think the most obvious is
that he gets a lot of food, yes, and he
gets to keep on that weight with food that I'm making,
which makes me happy obviously, because not only do I
make him all these meals and it's not even it's
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stuff that I'm making for you know, my page, but
he gets to eat it, which is fun. And he
said the other day, He's like, why are you always
asking me if it's good? Like I've never once not
like something you've made me. And I'm like, hmm, that's
a good point. I don't think you have. Maybe I
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should try, yeah, like something you don't like. Maybe videotape
that just give him something that you know these world bros.
Have you seen those videos of the ladies who take
like soup but they put a ton of sal on
the spoon. Yeah, I have to that. Oh I had
a friend, but we'll never forget this. Third grade she
always was like our baked friend, right, brought brownies to school.
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It was April Foles. She replaced the sugar and the
recipe with salt and gave him out to everyone. Yes,
just own humor because it apriles just for her own
humor of doing it. So you should maybe do that,
like mess with him, especially because you're so good at
page stretes, and like take one ingredient out or replace
it nice. He'd be like, let's just be watering. You'd
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be like, oh my god, make it really funny. Oh
I love you should do that. Um, but yeah, I
would say that's probably the most obvious is that he
gets to eat all the stuff that I make, and um,
I always try and use really good ingredients and stuff
so that I know that I'm obviously fueling his body
with the best possible thing and mine also because I
gotta feed this little girl who's very hungry all the time.
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By the way, Yeah, you brought your banana and you're like, yeah,
hungry a lot. I have to take a break here soon,
I have my banana. Um. But yeah, I would say
that's probably the biggest thing is that he's hungry all
the time. Yeah. We always have food, fresh food, whatever,
uaying around. Yeah that sounds beautiful. Yeah. Um, it's a
(26:43):
great marriage. I love that. Awesome. I mean how different
I mean we had we saw Taylor not um playing
every game last year. You know, he went through a
little a little adversity. Yeah, from your standpoint, was that
more time spent at home with you? Well, I don't
want to be you know, but yeah it was. And
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obviously that sucked. And they're never happy when something like
that happens, obviously, right, And it wasn't even you know,
he injured himself in the preseason, so it was like
he didn't even get to play in the first game
in the year prior he played every single snap. So
it was like very hard for him to go through
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that and not play in the first half of the year.
So it was hard. But it was a lot more
time spent at home with me and the dogs and
Um He helped me with the cookbook too. I mean
I have pictures of him sitting at my computer like
editing it. You know, like he was like my editor.
That's amazing. You don't have an editor. No, that Taylor's editor. Yeah,
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Taylor and my mom, Oh my gosh. So he I mean,
he was a huge part of the cookbook, and obviously
it was sucked that he had to be so much,
but it also helped me get the cook point fair.
I mean it almost kind of like as sad as
it would stay meant to be in a certain sense. Yes,
because what people don't realize is when the players are
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injured and they're you know, going to be injured for
consecutive weeks and a good chunk of time of season,
Like people don't realize that exiled is probably an extreme word,
but like they have they get put on their own schedule,
like they're no longer in those meetings consistently. They're essentially
don't totally feel like a part of the team and
so like. But for him, I'm sure to be able
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to still have you and help you with that in
a way probably helped his headspace a lot more than
you probably realize. For sure, I agree with that. I
didn't even think about that, but it makes me want
to cry. I see the face stop talking. Well, I
love it. Taylor just speaks to his mind a lot.
Like on Twitter last year, it was we knew it
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was difficult that he wasn't able to be out there
on the field, and so he let the people know
on Twitter and I'm like, retweet, you know, retweet you know,
And I told him he needed to do that. I
was like, it's just because a lot of times people
don't understand how hard it is. Like, obviously those guys
want to be out there. I'm always proud of him
sticking up for himself. You know what this guy's got
to do. Are you the call mean one or is
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Taylor more calm? I think we both called each other okay, yes,
in different ways. Yeah for sure. I mean we have
ways of calming down. Like we play a World of
four Craft. I don't know if you knew that. I
didn't know that. I didn't. Yeh, that's very It doesn't
seem call me well, it's it's just gaming in general.
It's like our pace, which is very strange. We both
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gamed for like a very long time. Interesting. I know,
but a lot of like almost every night we'll come
home and we'll get on and we'll like do some
quests or whatever, and very like grounding you were talking about,
like the Hobbit cake. Yeah, and the thing after that,
which I don't know. We're very nerdy. There's like a
different You're right, there's a nerdy side to this right now. Yeah,
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we're very nerdy. Um. That Hobbit cake was actually four
or am um a Hobbit? What was it? It was
like a premiere party in Hollywood that I got invited
to to make this cake? Is the lead on that one?
I was. I was so pumped about it because I
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love that stuff, Like I grew up loving Lord of
the Rings and the Hobbit and all that, and that's
one of the things we bonded over our first date.
We watched were The Rings. Oh my god, So it
isn't like a four hour long movie, okay, Yeah, when
we watched it start to finish, Yeah, you wanted that
day to last. Yes, I mean it was fun. Yeah,
we had a great time, and mostly because we were
watching my favorite movie. Like, it was a great time
(30:40):
for me. After I was sitting there like reciting the
lines like you know, I mean it was just a
match made in heaven o Lord of the Rings. Yeah.
So gaming is like a very like peaceful thing for
us to do after a long day or whatever. And
so that's obviously something that calms us that we do together.
I'm picture time a little baby, Yeah, guys, Yeah, I
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mean that's probably happen. What other games do you guys like? Um,
last year we played a lot of Call of Duty,
which I'm sure you've heard of. We played with a
lot of the old line. Sometimes they all get on
the same sometimes you guys have your headphones. Yeah, and
I would always carry him. Does he stream? Did you
ever stream it? Like? I feel like this could be
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a really I know, I know we've like talked about
it and Taylor watch his twitch all the time. Um,
maybe that will be his you know path after football. Yeah,
we'll see, but he's good, so could be there's always
a path. Do you guys talk about that all the
path after football? A little bit? Um, not too much,
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just because we obviously don't know when that's going to be.
But I think that he would love to just take
a little break for a couple of years and just
focus on our family, Yeah, and then see where life
takes him. But he I know, he's really passionate about
working out in the offseason. Like that's like he loves
to just work out. And he goes to a gym
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in Arizona that he loves, He loves the guys that
are there, he loves the owner. Um, and so I
could see him being some sort of trainer or something.
And girl dad and al dad, Oh my gosh, does
baby girl have Do we know her name yet? Have
you revealed a name? We haven't technically revealed it, but
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if I think we're pretty you know it, I'll tell
you after we're pretty set. We're pretty set on it.
It's like, but I kind of feel like you can't
really name a baby until you see their little face,
until you meet her. Well what if you see your
face and you're like, no, that's not gonna Well, I
have a whole list. Okay, we'll go down a list. Okay,
we'll figure it out. How quickly will you bring baby
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girl to a game? I was talking about the girls
with about that because obviously everyone's kind of having a
beauty right now. Um, I don't know if I will
take her to one this year. I might take her
to like the very last home game, if Taylor really
wants me to. But I mean they're just so small
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and it's loud. She'd only be about three months even so,
I don't know. We'll see. I would love to, but
next season might be her stride. Next season's gonna be awesome.
It's gonna be sweet. I'm gonna get her all the
Lions gear. I'm gonna get her on the cub cam.
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It's gonna be there. That honestly is like some of
the goals the highlights. Yes, yes, and every NFL stadium
does it and you can't. Yeah, that was my first
Lions game. I was sold. When I saw the cupcam,
I was sold. Yes, it is Detroit very You just
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