January 10, 2023 • 14 mins
In this episode of Off the Record, Detroit Lions team reporter Dannie Rogers sits down with the Mike Tirico, the voice of Sunday Night Football. The two discuss Tirico's start in the broadcasting industry, his time in college at Syracuse University and WAER Radio and Tirico gives advice to young broadcasters.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Going back to being a New Yorker born in New
York City, when did you envision yourself becoming a sports
broadcaster and perhaps maybe even at this level calling Sunday
like football. Yeah, never, never, at this level. You know
these you get lucky sometimes you start to do things
you didn't even dream about, and you wonder, like, how
do you top this? What's next? You know? I grew
(00:23):
up in New York only child. I have a family
who loves sports. Sports was on all the time, and
I always enjoyed the sportscasters, Like I didn't want to
be the next superstar player. I wanted to be a
sportscaster as a kid and just kind of grew up
loving it. Followed that passion. Marv Albert, Bob Costas and
another announcer, Dick Stockton, we're all Syracuse alums. And I
found that out early on in the process, and I
(00:44):
wanted to go to Syracuse and was lucky enough to
go there and it was everything I dreamed of. And
we've got so many people who come before us, like
I mentioned, or after I was there. I was there
with Ian Eagle and Dave Pash who calls the Arizona Cardinals,
in this Major league stuff. And I think we have
five NFL radio voices who are Syracuse alums. So we
(01:04):
have individuals, women and men everywhere in the business. Beth Muwens,
who will go down as the glass ceiling breaker for
female play by play, announced here. She wasn't the first,
but she's done all the sports in a way nobody
has before. She went to her grad year at Syracuse
and she's from the area. So I was around a
lot of great people there, and that's how a New
(01:25):
York kid followed his sports casting dream. And I met
my wife there who played basketball, and that she's from Michigan,
and so I this is my state in law, and
that's how I ended up in Michigan and we've been
back here for almost a quarter century in love it.
Oh my gosh, your wife former D one player. Yeah,
she's the athlete of the family. I always like to
say that our kids when they played sports, they oh,
your dad's an announcer, Like my dad the worst athlete
(01:47):
in the family. You know, in the family of four,
I'm the fifth best. The dog slots in me. So
but yeah, So we have a family that loves sports
and there's always a game on in the house somewhere,
somebody's watching a game, or somebody's talking about a game,
a group chat with a family, like, hey to see that.
So it's a neat part of our lives. It's not
just professions passion for us as well. I get a
(02:08):
lot of questions from college students all the time. What
did you do at Michigan to put yourself in the
position you are now? So? What did you do at
Syracuse that you think help prepares you the most to
tackle the real world after graduation? Yeah? Well, luckily we
have a great college radio station there. It's called wa
AR Radio. It's been going since nineteen forty seven, and
there's been a tradition of college football and basketball game,
(02:28):
so you get the great basketball at my time is
the Big East, Now it's the ACC. Lacrosse is a
big sport as there there as well. But also the
market size the city was small enough that you got
an opportunity to intern or work in the city, and
I had a chance to intern it. That's how I
got hired for my first job. They had gone through
two weekends sportscasters at about six weeks for a couple
(02:49):
of different reasons, and so they want to hire somebody
young and cheap who's going to stay for a while.
And that was me And as I was ending my
college career, my TV career started. So I always tell
people prepare and get yourself on the air as often
as possible, even if that means talking into we used
to be a tape recorder now is probably your phone, right,
(03:09):
Just get yourself speaking out loud, because that's all we
end up doing at some point, whether it's reading or talking.
You get more comfortable with it and then go back
and be your own harshest critic. If you know what
sounds good, then you can figure out a way to
get yourself there. And I think that's a big part
of it. And I'm sure you experienced your time's on
the air. Take away the nerves, You forget cameras and
(03:31):
microphones and you just kind of sit here and chat reps. Yes, okay,
when you are your harshest critic, and maybe this is
years ago when you were just starting out, but you
knew you didn't have maybe your best game or your
best film on tape. How'd you talk yourself out of
those moments to just bring yourself back up? And you know,
remind yourself that you can do this. I think on
the way up it's hard because you're trying to be perfect.
(03:54):
I think after you've been lucky enough to establish a
little bit of a background in the business, it doesn't
beat you up personally as much, but I think you
almost get more upset with yourself. I'll go back and
watch every second of every Sunday night football game. I
try to rewatch the game by noon the next day,
not to hear myself talk. But when you're doing the game,
(04:16):
you're working with your stat person, your spotter, your analyst,
your producer, director's sideline reporter. We're all working in concert.
Everybody's doing their job, but sometimes it's hard to see
how the job came together for the viewer at home. Right,
And while we may be talking about oh, we could
have said this, could have said that, what's the person
at home? They're sitting watching, so they don't want to
(04:37):
be bombarded with every stat that we can give you.
On Jared Goff's passer rating against cover three in the
third quarter on third down, we could get that and
it might be interesting, but at some points like too much. Right,
So how does it come through the TV? The combination
of the great pictures, from the talented men and women
(04:58):
who work the cameras, to the engineers, the graphics folks,
to the audio. Sometimes the best thing to say that
the line scrimmage is nothing. I'll look ahead to night,
a night game in Green Bay in the winter, usually
a cold night sound travels very well. Packer fans are
great about being quiet when the offense is on the field.
(05:18):
Aaron Rodgers is a really great, loud, strong cadence Green nineteen,
Green nineteen, you can close. You've heard it a thousand times.
So in Green Bay, I already will know that's a
game where when they get to the line scrimmage, if
it's not important, shut up. And that comes from going
back and watching yourself and critiquing yourself. So that'll be
(05:39):
that dance. And I'll probably go back on the following
Monday after that game and go and I wish I
wouldn't have said that at that point because there was
good audio on the field. So those are the things
you try to do, and you beat yourself up because
you want you want to find the best. A perfect game,
a perfect show is out there. The difference is your
thought of what's perfect. My out of what's perfect or
(06:00):
two different things, so you got to find that sweet spot.
I love it, the details, everything about it. I did
look up kind of the timeline of when you graduate
Syracuse you were sports and in turneying for the local
station in ques It looked like you became sports director
immediately after graduate graduation. I did, Yeah, which is insane, right, Um,
it was cool, it was young. It was young. I got.
I got to graduate college in the morning and do
(06:23):
the six and eleven o'clock newscast that night. So my
weight by I wanted to shorten the timeline for you know,
every school likes to go and say, hey, in forty
five days, most of our students get a degree. I
feel if I could throw like eight hours in there
would shorten the average a little bit. Would It was fun,
It was a fun night, incredible, and then you spent
four years at that local station and then immediately they
(06:43):
called the ESPN, right, Yeah, twenty five years to the
ESPN after that, which was a great experience. And you know,
friendships that last a lifetime. There a lot of those
folks like Scott van Peld, Kirk, Herbstreet, Chris Fowler's Susie Calber.
They're all still really dear friends. And on the game side,
all the analysts I work with, like Huby Brown doing basketball,
and all those folks, there's still Hubie and I spent
(07:05):
many nights at the Palace going to Pistons games and
working Pistons games, so they've all stayed friends. It was
a great twenty five years. It got a chance to
cover golf, cover all the championships, and football and basketball
as a studio reporter, chance to do Monday night football
for a decade. So it was an amazing, amazing time
at the time that ESPN had really reached its height
(07:27):
of being not a cable sports network but a sports power.
And to be there and to work with Chris Burman, Bobly,
Robin Roberts, Charlie Steiner, Dan Patrick, Keith Oberman, Linda Cone,
Carl Ravitch, all though, Gary Miller, all those people, Craig Kilborn,
Rich Eyes, and Stuart Scott, Guy rest his soul I
mentioned Susie Scott. We were all there at the same time.
(07:50):
So to work with those people are legends in the business,
and to be with them was one of the great
times professionally that you could ever have. You mentioned all
the championships you called. Is there a sporting event or
championship high up on your list that you have somehow
not called yet? When I went to NBC, the things
I had not been a part of were the Indie
(08:11):
five hundred, the Kentucky Derby, and the Olympics. And I've
been lucky enough to do all three of those the
last few years. So I guess the one that's out
there that I haven't been a part of would be
calling a super Bowl or the chance to host the
Super Bowl pregame. Now, that was great, and hopefully at
some point you get that chance. But the things I've
gotten to cover and see, this job has taken me
(08:33):
to every continent other than Antarctica to cover sports. I've
got a chance to host the World Cup final and
the super Bowl. You know very few people who do
chance to do that. It's lucky enough to host the
super Bowl and the Olympics in the same day. You
don't even think that these things are possible. So if
we are able to check every other box, that's great,
(08:55):
But if not, this has been such a good time
and a good experience that very blessed be a part
of it. You've got to be a mentor to so
many people. So who's Mike Rico's night for. It's been
a lot of folks, a lot of folks behind the scenes,
a lot of management folks, producers who people wouldn't know
or recognize. It wasn't necessarily one sportscaster kind of looked
(09:16):
after me. But anytime you asked Sean McDonough for advice,
Sean was about four years older than me. Anytime Jim
Nance would come to Syracuse to cover basketball Big East
basketball with Billy Packer, Jim would take the time to
talk to me. Brent Musburger do the same thing. So
along the way, you'd ask for advice from those folks.
But really, that Syracuse family I was talking about before,
(09:36):
we kind of provide that next generation hand up relationship,
and a lot of those folks were the ones who
were able to guide me through. But I've been lucky
to work for many talented folks behind the scenes who
people wouldn't know, executives and producers who their voice will
always be in the back of my mind, Hey are
(09:57):
you asking this question? Are you doing this this way?
And that's as you know, being in front of a
camera and a microphone every day is you get better,
you get worse, and you try to find that, Okay,
did I get better? Did I do the right thing
this time around? What is the best advice you've ever gotten?
Probably to listen, because as talkers for a living, we
(10:20):
are compensated and employed because of our verbal skill. Well,
you're always reminded that our maker gave us one mouth
in two years, So we should listen twice as much
as we speak. But we don't do that necessary. It's
not the nature of our job. But being a great listener.
Every time you ask a good question, often it comes
from the answer that the person gave you before that right,
(10:41):
so you just try to focus it on that. So
listening is the best advice I've been given. I don't
want to say I've taken that advice as much as
I should, but I try to remind myself all time,
shut up and listen, shut up and listen. I love
that this is a very rare occurrence this season that
you get to wake up in your house and hand
arbor and driving about forty minutes here to the facility
(11:02):
to watch the team's practice into your coordinating meetings. So
I just I'm mad at the NFL for not keeping
you top of mind when it came to scheduling Sunday
night football. Okay, how cool is this experience knowing that
you lived in Michigan for twenty three years and maybe
the Lions could be your honorary a couple of times. Yeah,
we are team agnostic. We don't roof for anyone. We
(11:22):
like to see. I always tell people, and the ball
is in the air and the clock says zero, where
it comes down determines who wins, then it's been a
great week because we've had a great game, and all
the time you invested was really beneficial because people are
hanging on the edge of their seat for the end
of them, right, and it brings you the emotion of sports,
which I think is what we all love so much.
I like to see the Lions play well for a
(11:43):
variety of reasons, much like the Bengals, much like the Bills.
And the Bills have had more success, though, but organizations
that have these incredibly loyal fan bases but have not
had that success on the field, like New England has
or Dallas has, or some of the San Francisco during
the heyday Green Bay the last twenty almost thirty years now.
(12:04):
You'd like to see these loyal fan bases rewarded because
the energy in those stadiums is spectacular. I had the
chance to call the Bengals playoff game against the Raiders
last year, and that was just wild there. And you know,
you can imagine what a playoff game in Ford Field
would be like. You just see that even in big
regular season games. I have an appreciation for the fans
(12:27):
because they are our customers. If we don't have fans
listening to your podcast, watching your work, watching Sunday night football,
we don't have jobs. There are customers, we don't get
to interact with them the same way that most businesses
get to interact with customers. But this is a chance
for us to appreciate those folks and the loyal fans
(12:49):
who work hard, take their hard ear and money and
want to spend their entertainment being a part of an
environment like you get at a big game. I have
such respect for that, and I want to see those
folks have their patients rewarded. And knowing so many Lions
fans them over the years, so am my father in
law who tell me about Joe Schmidt and all the
way through the different eras of watching Lions football here.
(13:12):
I know what it would mean to the people involved,
so that I think is more my soft spot for
the success of this organization, wanting to see them do well.
This is such a good city and the city has
come back in an amazing way way I never thought
i'd see it if you ask me ten or twelve
years ago. And to see that downtown vibrant and full
(13:35):
on a Sunday for like a Sunday night, would say,
we have a Sunday night game here in the next
couple of years. To see that energy in the city
and to see Comerica lit up and Ford Field lit
up and LCA lit up and downtown just kind of
connected shows Detroit to the world and for me that
would be wonderful to see. So am I rooting for
the Lions in the game, Not necessarily am I root
(13:56):
for the Lions overall? Absolutely, I want to see this
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Going back to being a New Yorker born in New
York City, when did you envision yourself becoming a sports
broadcaster and perhaps maybe even at this level calling Sunday
like football. Yeah, never, never, at this level. You know
these you get lucky sometimes you start to do things
you didn't even dream about, and you wonder, like, how
do you top this? What's next? You know? I grew
(00:23):
up in New York only child. I have a family
who loves sports. Sports was on all the time, and
I always enjoyed the sportscasters, Like I didn't want to
be the next superstar player. I wanted to be a
sportscaster as a kid and just kind of grew up
loving it. Followed that passion. Marv Albert, Bob Costas and
another announcer, Dick Stockton, we're all Syracuse alums. And I
found that out early on in the process, and I
(00:44):
wanted to go to Syracuse and was lucky enough to
go there and it was everything I dreamed of. And
we've got so many people who come before us, like
I mentioned, or after I was there. I was there
with Ian Eagle and Dave Pash who calls the Arizona Cardinals,
in this Major league stuff. And I think we have
five NFL radio voices who are Syracuse alums. So we
(01:04):
have individuals, women and men everywhere in the business. Beth Muwens,
who will go down as the glass ceiling breaker for
female play by play, announced here. She wasn't the first,
but she's done all the sports in a way nobody
has before. She went to her grad year at Syracuse
and she's from the area. So I was around a
lot of great people there, and that's how a New
(01:25):
York kid followed his sports casting dream. And I met
my wife there who played basketball, and that she's from Michigan,
and so I this is my state in law, and
that's how I ended up in Michigan and we've been
back here for almost a quarter century in love it.
Oh my gosh, your wife former D one player. Yeah,
she's the athlete of the family. I always like to
say that our kids when they played sports, they oh,
your dad's an announcer, Like my dad the worst athlete
(01:47):
in the family. You know, in the family of four,
I'm the fifth best. The dog slots in me. So
but yeah, So we have a family that loves sports
and there's always a game on in the house somewhere,
somebody's watching a game, or somebody's talking about a game,
a group chat with a family, like, hey to see that.
So it's a neat part of our lives. It's not
just professions passion for us as well. I get a
(02:08):
lot of questions from college students all the time. What
did you do at Michigan to put yourself in the
position you are now? So? What did you do at
Syracuse that you think help prepares you the most to
tackle the real world after graduation? Yeah? Well, luckily we
have a great college radio station there. It's called wa
AR Radio. It's been going since nineteen forty seven, and
there's been a tradition of college football and basketball game,
(02:28):
so you get the great basketball at my time is
the Big East, Now it's the ACC. Lacrosse is a
big sport as there there as well. But also the
market size the city was small enough that you got
an opportunity to intern or work in the city, and
I had a chance to intern it. That's how I
got hired for my first job. They had gone through
two weekends sportscasters at about six weeks for a couple
(02:49):
of different reasons, and so they want to hire somebody
young and cheap who's going to stay for a while.
And that was me And as I was ending my
college career, my TV career started. So I always tell
people prepare and get yourself on the air as often
as possible, even if that means talking into we used
to be a tape recorder now is probably your phone, right,
(03:09):
Just get yourself speaking out loud, because that's all we
end up doing at some point, whether it's reading or talking.
You get more comfortable with it and then go back
and be your own harshest critic. If you know what
sounds good, then you can figure out a way to
get yourself there. And I think that's a big part
of it. And I'm sure you experienced your time's on
the air. Take away the nerves, You forget cameras and
(03:31):
microphones and you just kind of sit here and chat reps. Yes, okay,
when you are your harshest critic, and maybe this is
years ago when you were just starting out, but you
knew you didn't have maybe your best game or your
best film on tape. How'd you talk yourself out of
those moments to just bring yourself back up? And you know,
remind yourself that you can do this. I think on
the way up it's hard because you're trying to be perfect.
(03:54):
I think after you've been lucky enough to establish a
little bit of a background in the business, it doesn't
beat you up personally as much, but I think you
almost get more upset with yourself. I'll go back and
watch every second of every Sunday night football game. I
try to rewatch the game by noon the next day,
not to hear myself talk. But when you're doing the game,
(04:16):
you're working with your stat person, your spotter, your analyst,
your producer, director's sideline reporter. We're all working in concert.
Everybody's doing their job, but sometimes it's hard to see
how the job came together for the viewer at home. Right,
And while we may be talking about oh, we could
have said this, could have said that, what's the person
at home? They're sitting watching, so they don't want to
(04:37):
be bombarded with every stat that we can give you.
On Jared Goff's passer rating against cover three in the
third quarter on third down, we could get that and
it might be interesting, but at some points like too much. Right,
So how does it come through the TV? The combination
of the great pictures, from the talented men and women
(04:58):
who work the cameras, to the engineers, the graphics folks,
to the audio. Sometimes the best thing to say that
the line scrimmage is nothing. I'll look ahead to night,
a night game in Green Bay in the winter, usually
a cold night sound travels very well. Packer fans are
great about being quiet when the offense is on the field.
(05:18):
Aaron Rodgers is a really great, loud, strong cadence Green nineteen,
Green nineteen, you can close. You've heard it a thousand times.
So in Green Bay, I already will know that's a
game where when they get to the line scrimmage, if
it's not important, shut up. And that comes from going
back and watching yourself and critiquing yourself. So that'll be
(05:39):
that dance. And I'll probably go back on the following
Monday after that game and go and I wish I
wouldn't have said that at that point because there was
good audio on the field. So those are the things
you try to do, and you beat yourself up because
you want you want to find the best. A perfect game,
a perfect show is out there. The difference is your
thought of what's perfect. My out of what's perfect or
(06:00):
two different things, so you got to find that sweet spot.
I love it, the details, everything about it. I did
look up kind of the timeline of when you graduate
Syracuse you were sports and in turneying for the local
station in ques It looked like you became sports director
immediately after graduate graduation. I did, Yeah, which is insane, right, Um,
it was cool, it was young. It was young. I got.
I got to graduate college in the morning and do
(06:23):
the six and eleven o'clock newscast that night. So my
weight by I wanted to shorten the timeline for you know,
every school likes to go and say, hey, in forty
five days, most of our students get a degree. I
feel if I could throw like eight hours in there
would shorten the average a little bit. Would It was fun,
It was a fun night, incredible, and then you spent
four years at that local station and then immediately they
(06:43):
called the ESPN, right, Yeah, twenty five years to the
ESPN after that, which was a great experience. And you know,
friendships that last a lifetime. There a lot of those
folks like Scott van Peld, Kirk, Herbstreet, Chris Fowler's Susie Calber.
They're all still really dear friends. And on the game side,
all the analysts I work with, like Huby Brown doing basketball,
and all those folks, there's still Hubie and I spent
(07:05):
many nights at the Palace going to Pistons games and
working Pistons games, so they've all stayed friends. It was
a great twenty five years. It got a chance to
cover golf, cover all the championships, and football and basketball
as a studio reporter, chance to do Monday night football
for a decade. So it was an amazing, amazing time
at the time that ESPN had really reached its height
(07:27):
of being not a cable sports network but a sports power.
And to be there and to work with Chris Burman, Bobly,
Robin Roberts, Charlie Steiner, Dan Patrick, Keith Oberman, Linda Cone,
Carl Ravitch, all though, Gary Miller, all those people, Craig Kilborn,
Rich Eyes, and Stuart Scott, Guy rest his soul I
mentioned Susie Scott. We were all there at the same time.
(07:50):
So to work with those people are legends in the business,
and to be with them was one of the great
times professionally that you could ever have. You mentioned all
the championships you called. Is there a sporting event or
championship high up on your list that you have somehow
not called yet? When I went to NBC, the things
I had not been a part of were the Indie
(08:11):
five hundred, the Kentucky Derby, and the Olympics. And I've
been lucky enough to do all three of those the
last few years. So I guess the one that's out
there that I haven't been a part of would be
calling a super Bowl or the chance to host the
Super Bowl pregame. Now, that was great, and hopefully at
some point you get that chance. But the things I've
gotten to cover and see, this job has taken me
(08:33):
to every continent other than Antarctica to cover sports. I've
got a chance to host the World Cup final and
the super Bowl. You know very few people who do
chance to do that. It's lucky enough to host the
super Bowl and the Olympics in the same day. You
don't even think that these things are possible. So if
we are able to check every other box, that's great,
(08:55):
But if not, this has been such a good time
and a good experience that very blessed be a part
of it. You've got to be a mentor to so
many people. So who's Mike Rico's night for. It's been
a lot of folks, a lot of folks behind the scenes,
a lot of management folks, producers who people wouldn't know
or recognize. It wasn't necessarily one sportscaster kind of looked
(09:16):
after me. But anytime you asked Sean McDonough for advice,
Sean was about four years older than me. Anytime Jim
Nance would come to Syracuse to cover basketball Big East
basketball with Billy Packer, Jim would take the time to
talk to me. Brent Musburger do the same thing. So
along the way, you'd ask for advice from those folks.
But really, that Syracuse family I was talking about before,
(09:36):
we kind of provide that next generation hand up relationship,
and a lot of those folks were the ones who
were able to guide me through. But I've been lucky
to work for many talented folks behind the scenes who
people wouldn't know, executives and producers who their voice will
always be in the back of my mind, Hey are
(09:57):
you asking this question? Are you doing this this way?
And that's as you know, being in front of a
camera and a microphone every day is you get better,
you get worse, and you try to find that, Okay,
did I get better? Did I do the right thing
this time around? What is the best advice you've ever gotten?
Probably to listen, because as talkers for a living, we
(10:20):
are compensated and employed because of our verbal skill. Well,
you're always reminded that our maker gave us one mouth
in two years, So we should listen twice as much
as we speak. But we don't do that necessary. It's
not the nature of our job. But being a great listener.
Every time you ask a good question, often it comes
from the answer that the person gave you before that right,
(10:41):
so you just try to focus it on that. So
listening is the best advice I've been given. I don't
want to say I've taken that advice as much as
I should, but I try to remind myself all time,
shut up and listen, shut up and listen. I love
that this is a very rare occurrence this season that
you get to wake up in your house and hand
arbor and driving about forty minutes here to the facility
(11:02):
to watch the team's practice into your coordinating meetings. So
I just I'm mad at the NFL for not keeping
you top of mind when it came to scheduling Sunday
night football. Okay, how cool is this experience knowing that
you lived in Michigan for twenty three years and maybe
the Lions could be your honorary a couple of times. Yeah,
we are team agnostic. We don't roof for anyone. We
(11:22):
like to see. I always tell people, and the ball
is in the air and the clock says zero, where
it comes down determines who wins, then it's been a
great week because we've had a great game, and all
the time you invested was really beneficial because people are
hanging on the edge of their seat for the end
of them, right, and it brings you the emotion of sports,
which I think is what we all love so much.
I like to see the Lions play well for a
(11:43):
variety of reasons, much like the Bengals, much like the Bills.
And the Bills have had more success, though, but organizations
that have these incredibly loyal fan bases but have not
had that success on the field, like New England has
or Dallas has, or some of the San Francisco during
the heyday Green Bay the last twenty almost thirty years now.
(12:04):
You'd like to see these loyal fan bases rewarded because
the energy in those stadiums is spectacular. I had the
chance to call the Bengals playoff game against the Raiders
last year, and that was just wild there. And you know,
you can imagine what a playoff game in Ford Field
would be like. You just see that even in big
regular season games. I have an appreciation for the fans
(12:27):
because they are our customers. If we don't have fans
listening to your podcast, watching your work, watching Sunday night football,
we don't have jobs. There are customers, we don't get
to interact with them the same way that most businesses
get to interact with customers. But this is a chance
for us to appreciate those folks and the loyal fans
(12:49):
who work hard, take their hard ear and money and
want to spend their entertainment being a part of an
environment like you get at a big game. I have
such respect for that, and I want to see those
folks have their patients rewarded. And knowing so many Lions
fans them over the years, so am my father in
law who tell me about Joe Schmidt and all the
way through the different eras of watching Lions football here.
(13:12):
I know what it would mean to the people involved,
so that I think is more my soft spot for
the success of this organization, wanting to see them do well.
This is such a good city and the city has
come back in an amazing way way I never thought
i'd see it if you ask me ten or twelve
years ago. And to see that downtown vibrant and full
(13:35):
on a Sunday for like a Sunday night, would say,
we have a Sunday night game here in the next
couple of years. To see that energy in the city
and to see Comerica lit up and Ford Field lit
up and LCA lit up and downtown just kind of
connected shows Detroit to the world and for me that
would be wonderful to see. So am I rooting for
the Lions in the game, Not necessarily am I root
(13:56):
for the Lions overall? Absolutely, I want to see this
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