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May 3, 2023 • 24 mins
On this episode of Off the Record with Dannie Rogers, Dannie sits down with Lions left tackle Taylor Decker and his wife, Kyndra. The Deckers discuss why their offseason home is in Arizona, what it's like becoming parents during an NFL season and more!

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Welcome to a very special edition of Off the Record
with Danny Rogers. We have our first recurring guest on
the podcast, Miss Kinder Decker.

Speaker 2 (00:08):
And Daisy and Daisy's here. Daisy is a recurring guest.
My tummy. How far along were you back then? I
think I was like nine months.

Speaker 3 (00:16):
I was big.

Speaker 1 (00:17):
Yeah, I was about hop can't forget about mister Taylor
Deckers joining us the first time, first time guest, but
a reoccurring You just you come on our content, you
do our podcast, and.

Speaker 2 (00:30):
We appreciate you so much. Taylor.

Speaker 1 (00:31):
Absolutely, this is the most beautiful backdrop. Why are we
here in Phoenix, Arizona? How did you guys land here?

Speaker 4 (00:41):
Oh?

Speaker 5 (00:41):
So out of college. There's a gym out here. It's
called Line Performance. And the guy who started the gym
with Charles Bentley, he was in Ohio State alumni. So
when I was coming out, I was like, man, I
would love to train there. So I reached out to
him kind of like build a poor, build a friendship.

(01:02):
And then like towards the end of my senior year,
I was like, can I can I come train out there?
Like for you know, heading into the combine my rookie
year and he you know, it was awesome. It was like,
of course, So my last game was the Fiesta Bowl.

Speaker 2 (01:14):
Did you win it?

Speaker 4 (01:15):
Yes?

Speaker 2 (01:16):
Who'd you guys not to day?

Speaker 5 (01:17):
And it was like forty five twenty fourth love that.
So I just stayed out here, moved into an apartment
with one of my college teammates, who at the time
was training at the gym also, and I just loved it.
I love it out here. The weather's beautiful. When you
hear desert and you think Arizona, if you haven't been here,
you don't think green. You think like Sahara desert, like

(01:39):
sand dunes and stuff. And I got out here and
I'm like, this is just blew my mind.

Speaker 4 (01:44):
It was amazing.

Speaker 5 (01:46):
So I was like, man, I'm gonna live here every
off season because I got the gym and like it's beautiful,
Like why wouldn't I so?

Speaker 2 (01:53):
And Miss Kindrin was already out here. Yeah, I've lived here.

Speaker 3 (01:55):
My family's here, so that's obviously where we met and
it's great.

Speaker 2 (02:00):
I love Arizona and.

Speaker 4 (02:01):
She grew up in this neighborhood, so.

Speaker 3 (02:03):
I did grow up right down the street. So this
is very special to me, especially to be raising Daisy here.

Speaker 2 (02:09):
Yeah, how does baby girl like that? I mean she's
five months old, clearly teething, yeah, teething a little bit.

Speaker 3 (02:15):
Like I said, her eyes are very sensitive to the sun,
so that's a little tough in Arizona. But other than that,
I mean she's doing great.

Speaker 5 (02:22):
I've gotten her in the pool a couple of times,
gotten her in.

Speaker 2 (02:24):
The pool a couple of times.

Speaker 3 (02:25):
She was getting used to going on walks and it's
fun doing all the.

Speaker 6 (02:29):
Baby things floating around, and her little floaty got her
like this little floating where they literally they just like
lay back and chill and she loved it.

Speaker 1 (02:40):
He saying Hi, Hi, miss Daisy, Hi, Miss Daisy's five
months old. So she came right in the middle of
the football season. How was balancing that.

Speaker 4 (02:51):
Do you want to start? Do you want to start?
On that one?

Speaker 2 (02:54):
It wasn't.

Speaker 3 (02:55):
I think because of the fact that my mom was
there with us, it made the transition a lot easier.
Had she not been there, it would have been tough
these He's not a great sleeper, she's not a great sleeper.
But we figured it out and obviously we survived.

Speaker 5 (03:13):
So I think it was a lot harder on her
than me.

Speaker 2 (03:20):
Because your schedule could not it couldn't change.

Speaker 5 (03:22):
Mind no, Like I like I have to go to work,
like I have to try and get sleep when I can,
so like having her mom there and then like Kindra
is just like so excited to be a mom. She
was like this is what I was meant to do.
So while you're not like prepared for it, like she
was like she had the right mindset like for it,
like she was excited about it. There's good days and

(03:43):
bad days, but you know, ultimately just you know, you
to come home.

Speaker 4 (03:47):
Well I get to come home.

Speaker 5 (03:48):
And just hang out with her for an hour or
to rock her to sleep and things like that.

Speaker 3 (03:52):
And yeah, the bedtime routine was always tailors so that
he got to spend that time with her because he
just wasn't home during the day.

Speaker 5 (04:00):
So the off season, now that like we've gotten into it,
that's been where I feel like I've been able to
kind of catch my stride and like drive just I
learned how to be a dad, get to be a dad,
and then just spend a lot of time with her,
and uh, we're super fortunate for that. I actually called
my parents, I think it was like a week ago,

(04:21):
and I was just like, yeah, you know, I didn't
realize like the challenge of being a parent. And I
was like, I just want to say thank you, because,
like you guys both worked full time jobs. I was
the youngest of five. I'm like, wow, because I didn't
I didn't go to any childcare or anything like that.

Speaker 4 (04:42):
It was always my mom and dad. And I was
like geez, like I just.

Speaker 5 (04:46):
Couldn't wrap my head around it. I don't have any
frame of reference until now. And I was like, man,
it's it's amazing but challenging at the same time.

Speaker 1 (04:54):
What was the craziest dad thing you learned or maybe
even the craziest thing about.

Speaker 2 (04:59):
A baby that you've learned over the last few months.

Speaker 5 (05:02):
M I feel like I've told people this who like
haven't held a lot of babies. Like when you you can,
they're pretty sturdy, like not as newborns, but they get
sturdy and you I'm like, just you just kind of
like scoop them up and you just kind of like
feel like how they want to like shift their weight
and stuff like that to where you can get to

(05:23):
where like you need to be holding them with one
hand doing something else. And I'm like, I don't know
it's just a feel thing that you just get used to.
And then just like like I do the bedtime routine
a lot. Sometimes she's not too happy, so you got
to you gotta break out some tricks and some Yeah,
sometimes she wants to stand up and bounce. Sometimes I
have this like big like pancho thing that's like really barecho. Yeah,

(05:46):
and like sometimes if I'm not wearing that, she will
not go.

Speaker 2 (05:49):
To sleep if you're wearing if.

Speaker 5 (05:50):
I'm not wearing the pancho, because I feel like I
feel like it's soft. And then she's a sweater, so
her head will be on my arm and it'll get
weddy and thick.

Speaker 2 (06:01):
And yeah, she runs pretty hot.

Speaker 4 (06:04):
Yeah, there's just all sorts of like little tricks.

Speaker 5 (06:06):
Sometimes you gotta stand up and bouncers, sometimes you gotta
sit down. Sometimes it's big rocks, sometimes it's small rocks,
and you just kind of it's so funny.

Speaker 3 (06:12):
Sometimes he comes home from from working out and you know,
if I pass her off so I can go shower
or whatever, and he's just like I can't stand and
hold her anymore. Like we did biceps today, and my
bicebs just.

Speaker 4 (06:25):
That is true.

Speaker 5 (06:27):
They will cook my biceps some days and I'll come
home and she will want to She'll be wanting to have.

Speaker 4 (06:32):
A stand up day.

Speaker 5 (06:33):
So I'm sitting here like holding her and like bracing
with my other arm, and like, she's only fifteen pounds,
but after an hour.

Speaker 3 (06:42):
It's fifteen pounds is heavy after an hour.

Speaker 1 (06:44):
Yeah, it's just it's amazing to hear you talk about
this when you're out there throwing very large men around
on the field. But this fifteen pound angel, that's that's
the crypto.

Speaker 2 (06:55):
I guess.

Speaker 4 (06:56):
I guess.

Speaker 5 (06:56):
So I mean, I'm a I'm built for like six
second place, not our baby. So, like, I know, she
went to a game with her, and she just held
her the whole time.

Speaker 2 (07:13):
I forgot my baby. I was gonna wear her and
I forgot it. Wear the baby.

Speaker 3 (07:19):
Yeah, I forgot, And so I was carrying her the
whole time.

Speaker 2 (07:22):
How many games and Miss Daisy get to go to? This?

Speaker 3 (07:24):
This one just the very last one I took her to. Yeah,
and she, you know, she sort of liked it, probably
very loud for her.

Speaker 2 (07:34):
It was loud. Yes, it was also chilly. We'll get
sheet used to it.

Speaker 1 (07:39):
How did you see Taylor change as a football player?
After having Miss Daisy.

Speaker 3 (07:44):
I the biggest thing I noticed was that he's always
been very good about leaving things on the field, like
if something upset and whatever, he never brought it home.
And especially now with her, it's just he is always
just focused on being a dad and her Now, it's
just amazing to see.

Speaker 2 (08:03):
And he's even he's a better dad than we even thought.

Speaker 3 (08:06):
And we talked about we were like, he's going to
be a great dad.

Speaker 2 (08:09):
It's like expectations.

Speaker 3 (08:10):
No, but I knew he was going to be a
great dad. I just you know, he's blown it out
of the water. It's amazing to see. What had surprised
you the most? Who being a dad? I think probably
just the way he interacts with her. It's just the
sweetest thing.

Speaker 5 (08:25):
I mean, look at them. I like to get her
like laughing before bed time and it's.

Speaker 2 (08:33):
Okay, look at your head. Do you want me to
go bring her inside out? Yeah? I think she's skidding.

Speaker 5 (08:41):
Oh he's okay, do you because I can go fast.

Speaker 2 (08:44):
It's okay. I know you're sad. Can you say bye?
It mis days? Bye?

Speaker 1 (08:50):
Man?

Speaker 4 (08:52):
That was honestly pretty good.

Speaker 2 (08:53):
Little he good job.

Speaker 3 (08:57):
She just doesn't like being outside very much.

Speaker 2 (09:02):
I know how cutthroat this business is. As a family whatnot.

Speaker 1 (09:07):
Is there another NFL family that you've gravitated towards that
has kind of helped you with this whole journey?

Speaker 2 (09:13):
A couple, I.

Speaker 4 (09:13):
Think, yeah, there's probably multiple. I mean I know.

Speaker 5 (09:19):
Now, just just a couple of families like the like
we are like like both like really like connected with
would be you know, Frank and Lucy, Yes, Graham and Ali,
the Glasgows who are coming back. You know, me and
him were drafted together, so we've been friends for a

(09:39):
long time. And then uh my one friend Joe Joe
Dall who he played for the Lions and he's retired now,
but him and Hannah, I don't know, we were just
like kind of came into the league at a similar
time and we're like going through all these like new
life experiences kind of at the same time. So I

(10:02):
know they have a group chat with all the moms
and they're just talking about baby stuff all the time, and.

Speaker 3 (10:06):
It's so fun going through that with people that you're
close with, you know, who.

Speaker 1 (10:10):
Know exactly what you're going to Yes, yes, yeah, I
heard there is an offensive line group chat, though Graham
did tell me that there's.

Speaker 4 (10:15):
Like a there's a bunch of them there.

Speaker 5 (10:17):
Yeah, there's there's multiple Yeah, there's like ones where from
like three or four years ago and Detroit that a
bunch of guys are in I think like Rick Wagner
is still in one of them. He hardly ever responds,
but he's in there. There's like the there's like the
new one. Like there's like three of them. There's a
whole bunch of them.

Speaker 1 (10:34):
So what was your reaction when Graham because he said
he had told you guys in this group chat he
wanted to come back to eat Roit and he's.

Speaker 2 (10:41):
Like, I think they thought I was kidding. I wasn't.
What was your reaction when.

Speaker 5 (10:46):
I was Yeah, I came home and Hank actually called
me when I was coming home from the gym and
he was like, Hey, we just signed Graham. And I
was like super surprised because I felt like it was
like just came very fast.

Speaker 4 (11:00):
He got released. I think he went to Cabo again.

Speaker 2 (11:04):
They've been like three or four times.

Speaker 5 (11:06):
And then uh, he's I mean just over the years
he's talked about want to just come back and play
with his like really good friends, not to take anything away.
From the guys who he's played with, but like, we're
just close. So when he got released, I was like,
maybe maybe there's a chance, and he said he was
just excited once he got signed to just be able

(11:29):
to be with with a group of guys who get
along really well. Like I'm sure, like you know, like
our line like last year, like we get along so well,
like everybody's super like cohesive. Everybody gets along really well.
And it's funny that Graham got resigned because at our
wedding him and Jonah were.

Speaker 2 (11:49):
Just talking a lot they each other.

Speaker 5 (11:52):
I said, dude, I would love it if you would
come back and play in Detroit.

Speaker 2 (12:01):
Jackson the Manifesto.

Speaker 5 (12:02):
Yeah, so because he just, you know, Graham's He's got
an interesting sense of humor. He can just talk and
talk and he's just fun to be around, and uh,
you know, obviously he's a.

Speaker 4 (12:13):
Great football player.

Speaker 5 (12:14):
So I thought it was funny that Jonah had said that,
and fast forward, he's bad when.

Speaker 1 (12:20):
You brace Graham nallely for I mean, they a whole
different coaching staff. When when they were in Detroit, what
did you brace them for culture wise?

Speaker 2 (12:28):
This time around?

Speaker 5 (12:30):
Honestly, I haven't really had that conversation with him, What
would you say? I would say that it's kind of
like there's been a like a culture and an expectation
established of just like trust and communication without an agenda,
like you can you can openly communicate and communicate what

(12:53):
you think and how you feel and it's not like,
oh well let's read into this, like what is he
really mean? I think that's one thing that I've really appreciated,
is just being able to have candid conversations and no
matter you know, what those feelings are, like, it's fine
because we're communicating, and that's what you need to be

(13:14):
able to do, Like ultimately you boil the whole business
of the NFL down. It's like it's us just people
working with people, and you got to be able to communicate.

Speaker 4 (13:22):
Well, you know, you can't.

Speaker 5 (13:24):
You can't be having like any like silly like middle
school cattiness, Like it's just.

Speaker 2 (13:29):
Have you experienced that enough of oh yeah.

Speaker 5 (13:31):
Yeah yeah. And I think we're just we're fortunate to
have us like a staff who kind of encourages that atmosphere.
And uh, I think Graham will really like that. I
think he'll really appreciate that he knows Hank, which is nice,
so there's you know a level of familiarity there. And uh,

(13:51):
I had actually talked with Dan like a week ago,
and he was he just like loved Graham's personality. He
was like, you know, Hank and Ben they try I
had to, you know, explain to me what kind of
personality he was and he was like, I don't think
they quite nailed it. And I think he's gonna be
happy though. Yeah, I think he's gonna have a lot
of fun and just.

Speaker 4 (14:13):
Let's let's do it again in Detroit.

Speaker 2 (14:16):
How how old special was this season?

Speaker 1 (14:18):
And Kendrick, you watching it, you know, very closely from
your point of view, to go from one insects and
with nine wins?

Speaker 2 (14:25):
How special was it?

Speaker 3 (14:26):
I mean, Daisy and I were sitting at home watching
every game and just cheering them on.

Speaker 2 (14:31):
I loved it. It was awesome.

Speaker 3 (14:33):
And it's funny because in the beginning of the season,
you never don't you don't know what to expect, and
then towards the end, as they start, you know, gaining
that speed and stuff, you're just really rooting for.

Speaker 2 (14:45):
I loved it.

Speaker 3 (14:46):
It was awesome and it was really fun for obviously
Daisy's first season to be that one, and yeah, it
was great.

Speaker 2 (14:55):
Could you tell how happy he was? Yeah?

Speaker 3 (14:58):
I think that was probably also part of the reason
why he was always so amped up and ready every
time he came home, because he was just you know,
they were just steamrolling. So when he came home, he
was always like, give me that baby. And he's always had,
you know, such a great attitude and I love that.

Speaker 1 (15:15):
Yeah, I mean it's yeah, it's got to help the
home life, you know, although you said Taylor's very good
at leaving it at work for sure.

Speaker 2 (15:23):
Yeah, sometimes can't help.

Speaker 5 (15:25):
I try to keep it into into perspective, especially now
with like having a child, Like that's like really good
life perspective of like important things and.

Speaker 4 (15:37):
Exactly because like.

Speaker 5 (15:40):
The NFL is a very serious business, and you know,
if you look at my entire life, like ninety nine
percent of it has been like revolving around this one thing,
which is like very serious to me, and I'm like
passionate about it. But then you get a little like
a little perspective on you know, maybe maybe maybe your

(16:03):
kid's sick, not feeling good, and like that's like that
is paramount to man. There was a play of practice
where I didn't necessarily like do what I wanted to do,
And I feel like that has helped my performance because
I'm I'm able to like compartmentalize, like I'm going into work,

(16:24):
I'm going to do my job.

Speaker 4 (16:24):
I'm gonna do absolute best I can do.

Speaker 5 (16:26):
And then I'm gonna be able to leave it when
I leave the building and and go home and kind
of like reset and get to be around my family.

Speaker 4 (16:36):
So it's been good life perspective.

Speaker 5 (16:38):
I feel like to not, you know, beat myself up
too much about things, So.

Speaker 4 (16:44):
It's been good.

Speaker 1 (16:45):
I feel like one thing you do when you come home?
Can we talk about the video games? I think I
saw the video of you both with headphones on Gaming Iconic.
What's the game of choice?

Speaker 3 (16:58):
Well, right now he's really into World of Warcraft, which
he has been since he was what five.

Speaker 5 (17:03):
I started playing World of Warcraft in fourth or fifth grade,
and it's like about the nerdiest possible game.

Speaker 4 (17:11):
You could imagine?

Speaker 2 (17:12):
Is it? Okay? I have no scope of.

Speaker 5 (17:15):
I mean there's a South Park episode on it. It's
like it's it's called it's an mm RPG. So it's
like a huge open world and there's all these different classes.

Speaker 2 (17:29):
He plays a feral Druid.

Speaker 4 (17:31):
Yeah, I'm currently playing a feral Druid.

Speaker 2 (17:32):
Yeah.

Speaker 5 (17:34):
And you basically, you know, you get to the endgame content,
you get into raids and you kill like a bunch
of raid bosses to try and get loot, and you
try and do the big damage. Yeah, because there's a
third party website that tracks how you do, right to
everybody in the world.

Speaker 4 (17:51):
It's competitive.

Speaker 5 (17:53):
But I'm playing a fifteen year old game right now
and I can't get an I love it. I can't
get enough of it. And prior to Daisy, she was
she was playing it with me too, because she played
it as a kid too.

Speaker 3 (18:03):
Yeah, we both played it, and I always joke like
what if we had met like in game when we were.

Speaker 5 (18:07):
Younger, And so anybody possible, anybody who knows about this
game will know that it's like a ultra Neckbeard game.
But I just love it, and there's like, I don't know,
nostalgia with it, and they're re releasing the old ones,
so now I'm able to go back and kill the
bosses that I couldn't get as a kid because I

(18:30):
wasn't as good at the game.

Speaker 1 (18:31):
Right now, exactly I'm waiting for Daisy to get her
own headset.

Speaker 3 (18:34):
I know we were talking about that. When do we
get her her own PCs so she can start gaming
with us?

Speaker 2 (18:41):
I don't know.

Speaker 5 (18:42):
You guys are iconic, So yeah, that's my current game.

Speaker 4 (18:45):
She loves Overwatch, yep, I have.

Speaker 3 (18:48):
This off season actually downloaded the Harry Potter game. You
both love Harry Potter, right, Yeah, So that one's fun
because it doesn't require as much time. I kind of
just do it like once Daisy goes to bed. It's
kind of like a relaxed thing. Before we go to bed.

Speaker 2 (19:02):
I was gonna say, you have the Carrier on, and no,
I haven't done that. Okay, I haven't done that. It's
mostly when she goes to bed.

Speaker 5 (19:08):
Yeah, that's why we try and get her to bed,
and then the guilty pleasures, you know. Yeah, So it's
it's been it's been fun. And we went we were
in a big Call of Duty war Zone kick.

Speaker 4 (19:21):
For a long time.

Speaker 2 (19:22):
We've played them all, yeah.

Speaker 5 (19:23):
We've we've played all sorts of stuff. And then when
like I said, before days he was born, we were
playing the previous WOW expansion, the Burning Crusade, and.

Speaker 4 (19:32):
She was.

Speaker 5 (19:34):
I was topping the mirror you were in you were
in it.

Speaker 1 (19:37):
Yeah, yeah, I feel like we don't have to ask
what the post NFL career will be.

Speaker 2 (19:43):
It'll be a professional Twitch easy.

Speaker 4 (19:45):
Transition, easy transition.

Speaker 5 (19:47):
I mean we like, I don't know if you when
you walk by the TV, Like there's Twitch on the
TV in the house right now.

Speaker 3 (19:53):
I think I put Hunger Games onis Taylor.

Speaker 1 (19:56):
I heard you got into the what is it the
writing process? Proof reading process? She said, you were when
you were injured, not playing. You were over there on
the computer proof reading this cookbook. Right, How did that go?

Speaker 2 (20:11):
You read through it probably three times?

Speaker 4 (20:12):
Yeah? I think I read through the whole thing three times.

Speaker 5 (20:15):
And I feel like the first time through, like this
is like it was almost like her life's work. So
I didn't want to be like super nitpicky, so it'd
be like if something was misspelled, maybe a let her
know that. But then like as we went on and
I would reread them and we just talked about like

(20:36):
maybe rewording this, or maybe let's condense this, this is redundant,
and she appreciated it.

Speaker 2 (20:44):
And then just to see that all come to fruition
and it's published. How cool is that for you, Taylor.

Speaker 4 (20:49):
I think my favorite thing is.

Speaker 5 (20:53):
Seeing people who have gotten the book and you know,
maybe they have a gluten issue or is it CELIAX.
They might have Celiac's disease so that they just can't
eat certain foods, or they thought they cun it and
now they can. Then Jeff the Lines photographer, reached out
to her said, we had a friend who was it

(21:13):
was it.

Speaker 4 (21:14):
Their kid or was it the.

Speaker 5 (21:17):
Had CELIAX and thought he kind of eat all these things,
and they got the cookbook and he was able to,
you know, eat all these foods that he loves. And
I think that's the main thing that I like about it.
It's just seeing how me too. It was something that
was born out of like her wanting to eat her
favorite foods, but like she cun it and then she's
kind of got to share that with other people. And

(21:38):
even if it just helped like one person, I know,
like that is like enough for her to like validate.

Speaker 2 (21:43):
It for sure.

Speaker 3 (21:45):
Yeah, it's awesome seeing people are like, oh my gosh,
I'm able to eat this and this and this again,
because you know obviously that you know you can. It's
just a matter of how to combine the ingredients to
get it to come out.

Speaker 2 (21:58):
So, yes, it's very special to me to see that.
I know. Sometimes you take a lunchbox to work. It's
your favorite lunchbox. Oh, the good old camp lunchbox.

Speaker 4 (22:09):
Yeah, that's a tough question.

Speaker 3 (22:12):
Probably the meatball sandwich, right, Yeah, so.

Speaker 2 (22:15):
We have phenomenal chefs at the facility.

Speaker 5 (22:17):
But yeah, yeah, it's okay to have an extra meal.
So they have hern her mom have this meatball recipe
and we had started making panninis with it on sour
dough bread with like pesto and provolone, and like I
can eat like four or five of them, like it's
probably twenty meatballs.

Speaker 4 (22:36):
Like I just love them, and.

Speaker 2 (22:37):
They really a week.

Speaker 5 (22:39):
They reheat really well, and like I mean, it's just
like a sandwich is like an iconic like lunchbox thing.

Speaker 2 (22:47):
We did bake spaghetti sometimes.

Speaker 4 (22:48):
Bake spaghetti was really good. We do casabas.

Speaker 2 (22:51):
You just find a microwave in the facility and just
ve out.

Speaker 5 (22:54):
This meets you, Yeah, and uh, I don't know, it's
just I know, like I know that I have this
thing that I'm gonna like to eat and I can
have it and eat it whenever.

Speaker 2 (23:02):
We also had a lot of leftovers.

Speaker 3 (23:04):
Yeah, yeah, were using camp. I mean, it's just easy
to send it with them. So I need to get
that customized lunchbox. Still, I know I should order it.

Speaker 2 (23:13):
I'm going to find an Etsy.

Speaker 1 (23:16):
Your general manager, head coach, your owner are down the street.

Speaker 2 (23:18):
Taylor. Free agency is here, season will be here, draft
will be here.

Speaker 1 (23:23):
What's your biggest advice for them going into next season
to get the lines over the humping into those playoffs.

Speaker 5 (23:29):
I mean, I don't know how much advice I have
for them, but uh, I mean number one, I think
they're just like doing a really just a really good
job of kind of taking things in stride. Like as
last season began, we were playing some good games, but

(23:52):
we weren't winning games, and then we had a little
dip and it was like unwavering, Like they did not
change like their approach because they believed in their profit
cess and I think that's one thing that I think
they will continue to do that. I mean, I guess
that would be my only advice is like just keep
trusting like your process and what you believe in and

(24:12):
how you approach things, because it's starting to pay dividends
and hopefully those dividends will will multiply and snowball and
we'll see a lot more success and things will get
even more fun. I don't know. I feel like the
I feel like the sky. The sky could be the limit,
and it's just just keep doing what you're doing.

Speaker 2 (24:31):
Wise words from the oldest lines that they're on the roster?
Are you older?

Speaker 1 (24:34):
Is Graham happy for you?

Speaker 5 (24:40):
I'm getting some gray hairs in my beard and stuff now,
and I'm like

Speaker 1 (24:43):
A five month that when he became it to add
still be the longest tenured, though
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