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June 4, 2025 • 29 mins

Tipping aficionados Andrew Wu and Calum Jaspan dissect the round 13 games in our mid-week episode of the Real Footy podcast. Will it be the Dogs or Hawks who stamp their credentials in the Thursday-night blockbuster, will Adelaide's form prove irresistible against the reigning premier and can the Swans bounce back from last year's embarrassment? Tune in as we attempt to answer all those questions and many more.

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
This is the Real Footy Podcast. Hello everyone, thanks for
joining us to Tip round third eight. My name's Andrew WU.
Peter Ryland on a mid season sabbatical, so we've got
a very special guest, The Ages media wrider and Raining
Office tipping champion Callum Jaspin is back. Second appearance. How

(00:20):
are you.

Speaker 2 (00:21):
I'm good. I just can't believe that Peter's chosen has
gone on holiday with Cane Corns instead of being in
the studio with us.

Speaker 1 (00:27):
They're going to watch a game, They're analyzing each other's
columns and riding in the last little while.

Speaker 2 (00:33):
Happy to be back. Thanks for having me again.

Speaker 1 (00:35):
You're the media writer. A a bit of a question
with it, warning do you watch many of the footy
shows that are on during the week.

Speaker 2 (00:43):
I would say that my consumption of the midweek magazine
shows are usually through social media.

Speaker 1 (00:50):
We got a lot of people might be like that, Yeah,
there's not much point.

Speaker 2 (00:53):
It seems quite reactive at this point, like you know,
they'll say something, the media will react and then you
know that's how you sort.

Speaker 1 (00:59):
Of yeah, it's I used to watch a few of them,
but I find there's no need to win. The actual
accounts given out.

Speaker 2 (01:11):
I find the ratings of them, just to sort.

Speaker 1 (01:12):
Of see which one is winning at the moment.

Speaker 2 (01:14):
I think from memory, nine is just hopping seven. But
you've got to keep minds it's the first year show
for seven, so it would probably take some time.

Speaker 1 (01:24):
Yes, the Sat Again Nines.

Speaker 2 (01:29):
Disclosure that this mast head is owned by nine Entertainment.

Speaker 1 (01:34):
But we we beck your integrity and your judgment. I
go to the leaderboard. Not much changed last week. The
going rate was five. I think most people if you
tip five, you aren't going to lose any ground. If
you tip four, well, you're going to go backwards. And
I think most of us tip five. So Michael Gleason
is still in the lead on seventy four. Pete's on

(01:57):
seventy three. It's probably why he's taken a bit of
a week off. I think his last month has been
a bit patchy. He's been thinking a four. So did
you get a four? No? I think you got five?
He got five? Right, you got five? Us all you're
on your third on the podium seventy two, Jakes on
seventy one, Jimmy Bartell on seventy on along way Back
sixty nine. Now a quick question, how are you going

(02:18):
in the office Tipping this year?

Speaker 2 (02:20):
I started pretty slowly, but I'm like right on the
precipice of the top five now pretty happy. I'm pretty
happy where I'm placed. The attentions off me this year,
which is good. Last year I read led from round
one to round twenty four, so I'm right where I
want to be. Like I am in this competition here.

Speaker 1 (02:39):
I need to read the rules as to how you
qualify for coming back next year, whether you have to
win this one. And even let's say you finished seven
eighth in the Office Tipping one.

Speaker 2 (02:49):
I think that's not thing too much as let's just
you know, proceed as though I'm here for years to come.

Speaker 1 (02:55):
It'd be doing the Tottenham within the league, which keeps
you in there even though you're finish. Okay, first game
of the round and it's a cracker as well. Thursday
night Western Bulldogs against harthor On at Marvel Stadium. You
think at the moment the Dogs are going better than
the Hawks, but the Dogs are actually out of the eight,

(03:17):
mainly because they've got a game in hand, but both
teams they need a scalp. I've had a little top eight.
The performances against the top eight. Hawks are one and
four and the Dogs are one in five, So there's
that influence you're tipping at all and your confidence levels.

Speaker 2 (03:34):
I feel like this is one of these weird games
where the Hawks you feel like they're having a much
worse season than they are, and the Dogs, if you
sort of like got a bit of a like just
on the eye check, you'd think that they're one of
the best teams in the comp But like looking at
the ladder today, I was shocked to see that Freo

(03:54):
and the Dogs have got the same record this year.

Speaker 1 (03:56):
Well, the Dogs are out of the eight. I mean
the game in handy in a row. I think no,
they well they had to buy last week, which is
the main reason why they're out of there. But it's
still a little bit uncomfortable if you're a Dog supporter,
I reckon, you're six and five, you've played good footy,
you're still out of the eight.

Speaker 2 (04:14):
I'm just going to say that despite the many formed
dep I think Cicily coming out. Whether or not you
think that's a good or a bad thing as a
Hawks fan, but I like the Dogs to win this one.

Speaker 1 (04:29):
Yeah, on with you. I think I'll watched the Hawks
last week and they're a long way off it against
the top teams. Sam Mitchell put it on the agenda
right at the start of the year even when they
were winning, that the mechanics in their game they weren't
in good shape and he's been proven right in the
last well last two months really. I think They're only

(04:51):
three wins have been against Richmond West Coast and Melbourne
who had kicked six goals third a and at three
quarter time, so they won that off one quarter. So
they're in a little bit of an issue. I mean,
we all thought at the start of the season, because
they finished so well last year, that they'd be one
of the main contenders. I'm not jumping off them yet

(05:14):
because their best is still very good, but they haven't
shown it for a little while and it's going to
be hard against the Dogs, especially if they don't get
their tackles up. They only had thirty eight last week.

Speaker 2 (05:26):
Yeah, I did think that the Dogs their last time
out against Geelong, that sort of classic high scoring game
down at Continua Park. Was sort of shocked that there's
their staying power, Like every time you felt that the
Cats are going to pull away, they just managed to
hit back with some pretty direct footy and I think
put about one hundred and ten points up on the scoreboys.

Speaker 1 (05:47):
Was a weird sort of game, wasn't it. Yeah, both
times attacked. I don't think coaches like that kind of
footy when when it's good to watch shoot that. I
prefer the lowest scoring games. I know people would normally
jump on me, but I think high scoring game a
kind of like T twenty cricket in footy because both
teams attack, there's no defending, and when it's like that,
it's not really a contest. But that said, I think

(06:11):
the Dog's form has been better than Hawthorne. They've been
competitive in their losses against the top eight teams. The
Hawks haven't, especially in the last two weeks. And unless
they lay stick more tackles, the Dogs are going to
slice through them like butter. So I'm tipping the Dogs.
You got a margin twelve two goals, two goals, Okay,
I'm tipping sixteen points. I think will be a good

(06:32):
game Friday night footy, and this is another classic as well.
We hope it will be Adelaide against the Brisbane lines
at Adelaide Oval. The Crows. There another side that needs
to improve their record against the top eight teams. They're
one and four against the Lions, who have been there.
There faults this year have been against the lower teams.

(06:53):
It's kind of like therefore and one against top eight.
I've got this theory that the lines just can't get
themselves up for the lesser games that drew with North Melbourne.

Speaker 2 (07:04):
They lost to Melbourne and then they had a scare
against Essendon.

Speaker 1 (07:08):
Yeah, after leading by five goals at quarter time. So
they're an interesting watch because I don't think they're at
their best. The Crows. I mean, they can't be more impressive,
can they. Yeah, I a beilt a team.

Speaker 2 (07:22):
You mentioned their record against top sides, but I think
they've only lost one game at home this season, which
was against Geelong. I think off a five day break
is yeah, So I think they're pretty good at home.
They're such good scorers. They've got a pretty stacked forward
line at the moment. But I do feel like they've

(07:44):
let me down this year when I have tipped them.
I feel like I've tipped them every week. But you
know that's still on the balance a good record, but yeah,
I'm going for Adelaide.

Speaker 1 (07:54):
And home greand affected, but that's.

Speaker 2 (07:56):
The decide of me. Yeah, and Brisbane's sort of shaky.

Speaker 1 (08:00):
Form, I'm tipping the lines. I mean partially. It's I
need to declare that my position and on the ladder
is a factor here. I need to start making up
some numbers. And if you're gonna go for an underdog,
I think the reigning premiers who are second on the
ladder is as good as any to to try and

(08:23):
climb back up the ladder on And I still like Brisbane.
I don't think they're at their absolute best, but their
record against the best has been has been very good.
And this one, this will be the sort of game
they get up for on the road against a top team.
I think they want to make a statement. I don't
reckon Chris Fagan would be too happy with their performance

(08:44):
last week behind closed doors, No, because they gave us
a chance. Not that I ever thought that they would lose,
but I think Chris Fagan would want that sort of
ruthlessness back in the lines. But they're gonna have to
play well this week. On tipping them by I think
they will three points, two points. What's going to be okay,

(09:09):
very good. Next game another tricky one, Saturday afternoon at
the mcg Richmond against last year's Grand finalist, the Sydney Swan's,
who have been nothing short of dreadful in the last
little bit, and you're going to tip an up set?
A little Birdie tells.

Speaker 2 (09:27):
Me, yeah, well, I just don't think Sydney deserve a
tip after what was it the Rebels performance? Are we
allowed to say that?

Speaker 1 (09:38):
I need to apologize?

Speaker 2 (09:41):
I think Richmond, like that was a pretty tough loss
on on Saturday against the Giants. You know, they like
put in a pretty good shift. I think they'll be
pretty fired up to get.

Speaker 1 (09:53):
Put in very good three quarters.

Speaker 2 (09:57):
But I mean it was a similar story on Sundays
Long versus West Coast. You know, the better team just
sort of outlasted the sort of scrappy underdog. But I
think against significantly worse opposition from the other team in
Sydney this week, I fancy Richmond to just pip this.

Speaker 1 (10:16):
Well, that's bold, that's a very bold tip, and that
gives you an idea as to how far the Swans
are falling this year. Because the year's gone by, you
wouldn't even beat Niley. You tip Sydney in a game
like this but I do know Richmond beat Sydney last
year is one of the oddest results last season they

(10:37):
were the only team that beat Sydney in the first, oh,
first two or three months of the season. Noah Bolter
comes back in after not being able to play last
week because of the curfew. I think he'll be a
big addition for the Tigers. But the Swans, I mean,
they just they have to win. After the week they
had the words that were said by Adelaide, the words

(10:59):
that would have been said by their coach. It would
have been a hard review if they were to lose
to Richmond. Where do you go from there?

Speaker 2 (11:09):
The only way is up, you would think for last
year's Grand finalists, but you never know.

Speaker 1 (11:18):
There's seasons on the log they lose that it becomes
they're in a mathematical territory to make the finals. Callum
Mills coming back after suspension will be important for the Swans,
who still got a lot out through injuries. But yeah,
I'll tip the Swans only because it's they're up against

(11:38):
one of the bottom teams. I think Sydney, still at
their best, are better than Richmond.

Speaker 2 (11:44):
Well to flip that, I think you could say I'm
tipping Richmond because they're up against one of the bottom teams, so.

Speaker 1 (11:51):
I tip of the Swans, but there's there's not very
high confidence.

Speaker 2 (11:55):
Next game your what was your margin?

Speaker 1 (11:58):
Two goals?

Speaker 2 (11:59):
The Swan's one goal for me?

Speaker 1 (12:00):
Oh nervous.

Speaker 2 (12:03):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (12:03):
A few games this around a lot of close ones.
We're tipping a lot of close ones. The next one
down the highway, Geelong, your Mighty Cats a against Gold
Coast at a GMHBA Stadium, a venue where the Suns
have never beaten Geelong in seven attempts. Do you think
this will be the day they.

Speaker 2 (12:24):
I don't think, Beck. I mean you sort of point
to the loss against the Giants a few weeks ago,
which increasingly looks like an outlier in Geelong's form, But
you know that, I think one of the biggest stories
going into that game was the giants good record at
Virginia Park. I just think the Cats are looking like
they're a pretty well old machine at the moment. Jeremy

(12:46):
Cameron's in sort of some of the best form. Four
goals well, he's kicked I think at eighteen or seventeen
or eighteen in the last three games.

Speaker 1 (12:57):
He's leading the Colvin medal, which is good for the
mind team that draft at the start of the year.

Speaker 2 (13:02):
And you know, aside from I think the Giants and Brisbane,
geelongs won most of its top eight matchups this year
and add to that, gold Coast work useless last week.
So this is my lock.

Speaker 1 (13:17):
That's extraordinary. Pattie Daingerfield back as well.

Speaker 2 (13:22):
The lock that's well it worked out well last time.

Speaker 1 (13:25):
So well that's that was an extraordinary look the last
time when you tipped along to beat Adelaide in Adelaide
because the lock tends to be tend to be a
bit of a moors in this in the way we
do it. But I like your boldness, especially putting the
moors on your own team. Gold Coast last week, well

(13:48):
they made three man a three man. All were very
good gold Coast probably, I mean in the wet they
still had a decent crack at the end and it
came down to that one, that last tackle by shape Bolton,
because I could have seen gold Coast taking the ball
at the other end. This is a huge game, I
mean from a from a ladder perspective, gold Coaster in

(14:10):
the top four. Now Geelong want to get the spot
and at the end of the season. This could be
one of those games where you look back on and
think that that's where the top four spot was won
and lost. I'm thinking Geelong only because they're playing at
home where they're still very hard to beat, and Gold
Coast I still want to see. I respect them, but

(14:32):
I still want to see if they can claim a
major scalp on their road and I think Geelong, if
they could do that win at Geelong they probably have
about fifteen supporters they're watching, that would be an extraordinary result.
But I think the Cats by a goal. For me.
What about you? You're going to tip a big margin one? Yes,

(14:54):
that's a confident man. We're online all the time. Just
search age Real Footy on Facebook or Twitter. Okay, next
game Saturday night forty right Western Sydney against Paul Adelaide
at Manica, and I believe you're going to be I

(15:17):
am one of the us in the.

Speaker 2 (15:19):
Crowd twelve layers or something up there, such my second
game with the Round. I'm going to Marvel Stadium tomorrow night.

Speaker 1 (15:26):
You're a helicopter from Geelong.

Speaker 2 (15:30):
Camera sadly not I would if if I had the
financial capability of that. I think this is going to
be pretty straightforward for the Giants. One of the in
my view, one of the most sure tips of the week,
although I've probably just skewed myself by saying that Giants

(15:53):
have won I think four of their last five in Canberra,
that lost being to Brisbane earlier year. I know, maybe
to the Bulldogs. I think, to quote Callen Ward's semi
inspiring third quarter pump up, there's no need to do
anything extraordinary for the Giants.

Speaker 1 (16:15):
The content of that speech wasn't actually all that inspiring.
Was it was a play or role?

Speaker 2 (16:19):
Yeah, it was. It was pretty straightforward. I thought it
was actually, you know, and the response from the players
was not very enthusiastic either, but you know it was.

Speaker 1 (16:29):
It was the gesture. Wasn't the symbolism of one of
your club legends at a moment of great personal distress,
putting aside all his heartache for the betterment of the club.
I think that was the symbolism would have been most inspiring.

Speaker 2 (16:45):
Came I ready to run through a paper wall for him.

Speaker 1 (16:48):
I wanted to save someone off by saying, boys, I
want to sing the song for one last time to
get it done, which they did anyway. It's a mark
of high how highly callen Ward is regarded, not only
out the Giants but around the league that there's Yeah,
there's a real outpouring of emotion for them because it's
a very sad way for a great of the game

(17:10):
to bow out. It adds to the Giants' injuries as well.
They've got Briggs, Finn Callaghan, Steve Cannelio, Jack Stringer and
they might get Britt Daniels Britt Daniel back this week.
But there's a few players out of the out of
their best team. But I still think they'll get the
job done against Port Adelaide, who've been You thought the

(17:30):
Swans were bad? I mean this is the giant the
port Adelaide's last month, they've lost by ninety points, five points,
seventy six points and forty nine points.

Speaker 2 (17:38):
Yeah, it's not They're the sort.

Speaker 1 (17:41):
Of numbers that a man of slavish a wouldn't mind
or because yeah, I think port are going to struggle here,
depending on how Ken Hinckley can wind them up. Is
there anything for them to play for? Anything that they
can get themselves up for emotionally, because that's when Port
adelaid played this footy. But yeah, Canberra Saturday night. It's

(18:03):
five degrees. It's gonna be hard, isn't it.

Speaker 2 (18:06):
Well, maybe the prospect of Ken leaving mid season is
something there.

Speaker 1 (18:10):
It's just a weird dynamic Giants. For me, I'll tip
them by three goals and no, I'm not going to
make them all lock. I'll wait. I'll wait for later
in the round.

Speaker 2 (18:23):
I'm not sure if this is a typo or if
this is my superstition's coming to play. But I've also
got it a margin of thirty one, the same as
the last game. Giants by thirty one.

Speaker 1 (18:35):
Giants by three goals for me. Sunday afternoon footy and
this is we've got a new AFL venue. Hands overal
out at Bunbury, which is where North Melbourne are playing
their home game against West Coast. Makes sense to.

Speaker 2 (18:51):
That it's got to be one of the most Sunday
afternoon fixtures of all time.

Speaker 1 (18:56):
It should be a Sunday twilight fixture really, but I
am looking forward to saying a new venue. There's always
a bit of excitement when when you get something new
on TV. North Melbourne. Oh Jesus, is this for me
is the hardest game to tip because you'd think. I
mean North Melbourne are favorites, but they shouldn't based on

(19:19):
their record in the last five years. They shouldn't be
favorites in any game a little on one where they're
traveling to the other side of the country to play,
but they're playing against West Coast who are going just
as badly, and surely North Melbourne have got to get
this win. Yeah.

Speaker 2 (19:39):
I think I said this year before the podcast, but
this feels like a game I just watched a few
weeks ago, but I think they might have been Richmond
versus West Coast, which actually I think turned out to
be a pretty good game. I feel like North have
got to win to justify the decision to host this
game in West Australia.

Speaker 1 (19:58):
I just want like cash, honest, it would be a
bonus for them. But because if this game was played
let's say at bell Rave or or in Melbourne, you'd
be very comfortable tipping North Melbourne. But this added factor
of travel makes me very very nervous.

Speaker 2 (20:17):
But I think that's the only factor that's sort of,
you know, sort of weighing it up a little bit.
I mean West Coast were pretty good again for three
quarters against Geelong and they were.

Speaker 1 (20:29):
I mean they won the week before and came very
close to Benning Richmond in Melbourne the week before that,
So their last month they have improved. I think most
bottom teams generally have a good month here and there
during the season. Last month has been that for West Coast.
But I give them a really good chance debout North
only because you can't be confident with North Melbourne when

(20:53):
they've won what sixteen games out of one hundred and
twenty or whatever that is since COVID. So I'm she's
very reluctantly tipping North Melbourne.

Speaker 2 (21:02):
But yeah, me too. North Melbourne two points, another close one,
but I reckon they'll get over the line.

Speaker 1 (21:10):
Could you see a draw win? We need Libby Birch
actually just just to call in to pump us up
and get us more confidences to Northlone would win because
she will, no doubt tip the Kangaroos again. Actually shout
out to her because she she I think won the
round last week. She tipped Saint Kilda after copying a

(21:31):
little bit of grief from Peter next there you go. Yeah,
so good effort by her. I think North Melbourne I'm
going to say by one point. But if this was
a draw. I would not be surprised. Next game, the
blockbuster King's Birthday Eve, Carlton against Essen And at the
MCG two of the giants of the AFL whose last

(21:54):
twenty years have been far from befitting that status. Carlton
going into this game warm favorites, but I guess it
sort of falls into that North Melbourne category. How can
you be confident?

Speaker 2 (22:07):
I mean I would argue that you couldn't be confident
tipping either of these teams. And I think that's what's
sort of swaying my decision today. I mean, Carlton's sort
of mini recovery seems to be over somewhat. I mean,
those wins, aside from Geelong, came against probably a handful

(22:28):
of the worst teams in the competition. I think it
sink Kilda North and West Coast Essendon. Meanwhile, I've you know,
sort of got a bit of a catfished winning record.
I think just the eye test, that just don't look
like a very good team, and you know, the sort
of I think the messaging around the club, you wouldn't

(22:51):
think that they're a team that's sort of pushing on
the pushing on the eight.

Speaker 1 (22:56):
But they're actually just outside of the don't they six
and six? I think, yeah, they win, they'll be seven
to five. I mean, any supporter would have taken that
start of the year.

Speaker 2 (23:05):
Well, that's what I mean. That's why it's a catfish.
Is anyone talking about Essenton as a good team.

Speaker 1 (23:10):
No, but they are predictable in the sense that they
beat the teams below them and they generally fall well
short of the teams above them. Now where do Carlton sit.
They're probably thereabouts around that Essendon marke. They probably should
be a bit more developed than the Bombers. But Carlton's best,
which we haven't seen much of other than that's a

(23:32):
long game. They seem to play well for about two
and a half quarters and then somehow find a way
and fall away and lose by two or three goals.
It's generally been the way they've played in the last
twelve months really, so it doesn't inspire much confidence. But
I mean Essenon, where I think Carlton can win this
week is Essenon's lack of key defenders. A lot's been

(23:59):
said about the injury list, but I think mainly it's
this one area of the ground and the same type
of play the key defenders and the tour players one
hundred and ninety centimeters and over. But I reckon if
you went through their list, they've probably got about six
or seven of their best team outs, so it's overplayed little.
But I think Carlton this week that I mean with

(24:20):
Charlie Kerno Harry McKay, they've got the players who can
capitalize on Essendon's lack of tall defenders and I think
they'll get the job done. But there's not much confidence.
How can you be confident?

Speaker 2 (24:33):
No, this is yeah, I think I tip Carson with
not much confidence. I am going three goals just because
I just think if they're going to win. I don't
think it's going to be a super close contest, but no,
both I think it will be.

Speaker 1 (24:49):
It'll be one of the in the center in terms
of who can win the contest and the clearance because
both teams have been pretty good at that. They don't
quite have the other side of the game to them
just yet, which probably explains why they're the middle of
the table. But I think Carlton need to win, need
to save their season, and this one will give their
supporters a little bit of probably false hope anyway, but

(25:12):
I think they'll get up ten points. Final game of
the round, the Big Freeze at the MCG Melbourne against Collingwood.
One of the marquee fixtures of the year. I love
this game because of the the great work done by
Neil danaher to raise the awareness of mode and your
own disease. He's done a magnificent job, Neil Danna the

(25:32):
Australian of the year as well. Which way are you
going in this game? Well?

Speaker 2 (25:39):
I was interested to see sink Kilda put a bit
of a big freeze on Melbourne's little run of form
on Sunday. I just think again their form was a
bit of a ruse. The win against Brisbane I think
was one of those outlier results which he probably can't
read too much into. Colin would look pretty untouchable at

(26:00):
the moment. I think this is again one of the
easier tips of the round.

Speaker 1 (26:04):
Yeah, I don't think anyone would be tipping Melbourne. It
would be a bit of a Yahoo tip given that, yeah,
calling at the top of the ladder and Melbourne have
been largely bottom six material this year. They were so
disappointing with they imagine being a Melbourne supporter last week
thinking oh, here's their chance to break even in the season.
We got so killed. We were in good form. If

(26:25):
we win here, we're a real chance to make the
eighth And then they kicked seven goals twenty one. Yeah,
that was an exasperating.

Speaker 2 (26:32):
I tuned in for most of the second half and
I just could not believe some of the spray shots
the D's were coming up with, just as they looked
like they could maybe get their footback in the game,
but they just yeah, they just could not kick straight.
So look, I don't know. I think their season four

(26:52):
so far, barring a couple of alright wins, I just
think that they're not anywhere near good enough to be
confident in tipping them against the premiership leaders.

Speaker 1 (27:05):
Yeah, they're making ground though Melbourne, I think they're much
better than the side they've shown and they played the
first month of the year. I think Cottie Pickt's massive
for them. He didn't have a great game last week,
but he needs to be close to best on ground
if they're going to beat Collingwood. They've got a few
injuries Lockie Schultz, Lipinski and Mainard out of their best team.
I think mixed day might be a chance to get back,

(27:27):
but the Pies have got the wood over the days.
They have won ten of the last twelve. Even when
they're kind of not at their best, the Pies still
find a way, and they were excellent last week that
they deserve flag favorites. And if you played the finals now,
you wouldn't want to be tipping any other team. So
I'm tipping the Pies and I'm going to make them

(27:48):
my lock are going to win by about twenty.

Speaker 2 (27:51):
Points, twenty one points for mine.

Speaker 1 (27:54):
So what pies for me? For the lock? And you've got.

Speaker 2 (27:58):
Uninspiring lock, I've got to say your look is Geelong.

Speaker 1 (28:01):
Well, you know, you just don't want to get caught
out in these scenarios because it's most embarrassing when you
when you're declared lock falls over. It doesn't inspire confidence
among the listeners.

Speaker 2 (28:13):
Yeah, that's true. That's why I've got the listener's confidence
at this point.

Speaker 1 (28:18):
Yeah. Well, I feel like you're probably more in touch
with the listeners. You know, you don't follow it as
closely as everyone else. Yeah, but you give a fresh
perspective and you're doing a lot better than most of
us in the in the tipping competition, so well done
to you. That's all we got for today. Thanks for
joining us. Make sure to subscribe, rate, and review wherever

(28:39):
you get your podcasts. We'd love to hear from you
via email. Real Footy Pod at the Age dot com
dot Au. Check out the rest of the expert tips
at Theage dot com dot Au slash AFL. The teams
will also be there. The podcast will return on Tuesday
next week. Thanks for listening and may your team win.
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