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September 4, 2025 • 44 mins

Episode 68 of She Said It First is a whole sermon and a roast rolled into one. Jerrilyn Lake (aka Indeskribeabull) and Lynee’ Monae start off with a word on boundaries—because apparently some folks still think sliding into DMs with “what’s up, dummy?” is a love language. Spoiler: it’s not. The ladies break down how “being funny” doesn’t give you a free pass to be disrespectful, and why calling women “females” might just earn you a quick trip to verbal jail. It’s giving “match energy or get matched out.”

From there, the conversation swerves to Offset’s “don’t get married unless you’re ready to change your whole life” revelation, which the ladies politely translate as: “congrats on finally learning Marriage 101, sir.” They applaud him for at least removing himself from the dating pool before he could waste anybody else’s time, but remind us all to consider the source before taking relationship advice from men whose résumés are stacked with red flags and reality TV-worthy drama. That theme carries into discussions about oversharing on social media, the mess that was the Jussie Smollett documentary, and why sometimes the most revolutionary thing you can do is mind your business.

Of course, the hilarity doesn’t stop there. On "Girl Talk," the hosts go in on engagement rings that don’t ring true (ladies, it’s okay to say you hate it—just don’t pawn it too quick), the nightmare of having a roommate in your 30s (“you wash your ass in my sink? You gotta go”), and why privacy is priceless when you’ve got a platform. By the time they close out inviting listeners to join them on a group trip to Thailand, you know one thing for sure: Jerrilyn and Lynee will give you the truth, the laughs, and the side-eye that you didn’t know you needed—but definitely did.

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Speaker 1 (00:02):
What's up, everybody, It's your girl and describableut aka Jerland
leg checking in with none other than my best Steve
or the best Steve Lene Monnette. And you are listening
to that, she said the first podcast and then eurby
one podcast on an eurby one podcast network.

Speaker 2 (00:15):
I can't get it.

Speaker 3 (00:19):
Here, Rauh.

Speaker 1 (00:20):
You know, we got some stuff to talk about today.
But before we get good off into it, friend, I
need to know, because it's always something with us.

Speaker 2 (00:33):
I need to know how irritated you this week? I know, girl.

Speaker 1 (00:37):
I think I think people don't realize that being nice
is a choice.

Speaker 2 (00:44):
I make choice. I make the choice to be nice. Now,
I'm cool. I'm not nice. I've always said that. Right,
I'm cool. I'm a cool person. I'm cool to hang out,
I'm cool to be I'm a vibe.

Speaker 1 (00:54):
Right, but I'm not a nice person, which means you
don't got a whole lot of times to play with me.

Speaker 2 (01:00):
Right, it's very selective.

Speaker 1 (01:03):
Okay, it's like three strikes and you're out of there, buddy, Okay,
I don't even play like that. So I think when
people see you switch, they don't understand.

Speaker 2 (01:11):
Wait why she just why?

Speaker 1 (01:13):
All of a sudden. She just like being so cold hearted?
You know, why do I have an ice box where
my heart used to be?

Speaker 2 (01:18):
You trying to figure out what's going on? What did
I do wrong? And it's like, it's not that you
tried me one too many times.

Speaker 1 (01:25):
And I've been told you to find you something safe
to do, and hear you over here with the safety.

Speaker 2 (01:29):
Why are you playing like that? Why are you playing Russian?
Like we don't want to play Russian?

Speaker 1 (01:33):
Girl?

Speaker 2 (01:34):
I can totally relate.

Speaker 1 (01:35):
Yeah, I mean, I think when you have the kind
of personality that you have, people just assume that it's
all jokes all the time, and you just have to
remind people. All right, all right, that's that's your second one.
I give people too, And like you said, three strikes
and I give people too. But that third one, I'm
gonna start matching energy. And I feel like I feel
like sometimes energy just got to be matched because realistically,

(01:58):
I don't know if people recognize what they're doing all
the time. Now, some people, you know, some people be knowing,
but then other people, other people just be cracking jokes
because that's how they move with everybody and everybody around
them has accepted that.

Speaker 2 (02:12):
Oh that's just how they are.

Speaker 1 (02:13):
And then when they come around me or you, they
have to understand I don't care how you just are.

Speaker 2 (02:18):
You cannot play with me like that at all at all,
even like a part of that time.

Speaker 1 (02:23):
Now I ain't gonna they can cut this out or now,
But remember that time when you had told me that
somebody had DMG and was like, what's up, dummy or
stupid or hey? And I was just like, why would
that person ever feel because they look at us as
comedians and feel like, oh now I can d And
even if you was playing, it's like I don't know you,
and I don't.

Speaker 2 (02:43):
Know you're like this at all.

Speaker 1 (02:45):
Like I don't care if we met one time before,
Like it doesn't matter. You still can't just DM me
and talk to me wout and crazy. Even with some people,
I don't particularly care for people calling me the B word,
Like I'm cool with my friends calling me that, but
and like my friends for real, but like I'm not
really keen on certain people that I don't know, like
be like it just rubbed me.

Speaker 2 (03:05):
Wrong, Like I just don't like it.

Speaker 1 (03:07):
Well, I mean that's a boundary, Like I think what
we are, what we really are irritated by is people's
lack of respect for boundaries because I do not know.

Speaker 2 (03:18):
You like that, like you know people.

Speaker 1 (03:20):
I think people casually, you know, women specifically, will casually
call each other B word. I have no problems with it,
the same way I have no problems with black people
using the N word. I have no problems with gay
people using the F word, because I personally feel like
if a word has not been used against you in
a derogatory manner, you should not be using that word.

Speaker 2 (03:39):
That's what I think.

Speaker 1 (03:41):
So if I don't know you well enough to have
that type of exchange with you, I don't even know
why you came over here thinking you know, like people
just I think people just say, oh, you're just funny.
So you just gonna accept this and and I'm gonna
ask you to put it in reverse terry.

Speaker 2 (03:57):
Because you feel about men who call women females.

Speaker 1 (04:07):
I think it's annoying because I there has there has
been so many things attached to the way men talk
now and a certain type of man that every time
I hear the trigger words and the red flags, I
just erupt into I erupt into vitriol and hatred because

(04:27):
please get away from me with that. We don't call men.
We don't call men males. We call our men. So
call women what they are, which is women. And I
think that whole, that whole, you know, females this, and
females like, what about what about your big back mama?
What about your bald headed daughter. I'm just asking a
question here, I'm just asking a question here. What about

(04:49):
your sister who gets around? What about what about your
community property sister? We can't talk about that though. We're
not allowed to say nothing about that though. That's the thing,
you know what I'm saying. And I definitely think those
trigger words that people like to use certain things. But yeah, girl,
that's what irritated me is just like people thinking that
everything is a joke and wanting to play, but then

(05:10):
realize when I start playing back, nobody wants to play anymore.

Speaker 2 (05:13):
It's not fun anymore. Okay, got the gun.

Speaker 1 (05:19):
Now, all of a sudden, because you know you always
do too. You know, I'd be like hold my beer
because I haven't done enough. Because I feel like in
that moment, people need to know, like you could if
you say something slick to me and I say something
a little slick back There's still a space for a misunderstanding.
There's still a space where they'll be like, oh, well,
maybe she took what I said the wrong way or

(05:40):
I misheard what she said. If I drive home the
point with four to five insults back to back, there
is no confusion about it whether or not you should
be playing in this.

Speaker 2 (05:54):
Oh like, it's very clear.

Speaker 1 (05:56):
Maybe you got it and it's right one, honey, the
wrong one or the wrong one.

Speaker 2 (06:00):
But my thing I treated like, treat it like somebody.

Speaker 1 (06:04):
What would you do if somebody if you had a
firearm and somebody in was an intruder in your place,
would you let off one round?

Speaker 2 (06:12):
No certain question that the answers, because I don't. I
don't really do.

Speaker 1 (06:17):
I don't really do warning shots. The shot, the warning
shot is you're gonna feel every shot, okay.

Speaker 2 (06:23):
The water shot is the alarm going off.

Speaker 1 (06:25):
That shot the warning warning because after that, I'm unloading
the clip and.

Speaker 2 (06:32):
Whatever happens, happiness, Okay, that's it. That's I spread.

Speaker 1 (06:38):
I feel you on that, and I too, I too
have been irritated by people not necessarily crossing boundaries. But
what I think, what I think irritates me the most
about some people. It's being being unaware, like not being
self aware. You might not be intentionally crossing the boundary,

(06:59):
but just read the and pay attention to how you
are presenting yourself. Pay attention to what you are doing
and saying. So many times people would just do and
say stuff because they're trying to get a laugh or
because they're trying to expect someone.

Speaker 2 (07:13):
It's always cringing embarrassment of it all because.

Speaker 1 (07:16):
Why would that boy tell me I don't like your
social media presence. I didn't ask you, let me adjust
myself in my seat.

Speaker 2 (07:24):
I don't want to.

Speaker 1 (07:25):
Call on somebody because I don't like your social media presence.

Speaker 2 (07:29):
That's the thing is that people, I don't like your
person's presence period.

Speaker 1 (07:33):
And that's and I only met you for two seconds
and can't stand you off the rist.

Speaker 2 (07:37):
But but the whole.

Speaker 1 (07:41):
Fact that you came over and even said that to
my friend, and knowing that nobody likes you in the industry,
that was projection to me. You know what people say
to you, so you felt like you could say that
to my friend knowing that's not the case. First of all,
she has so many more followers in you. Not only
that she's actually likable in person. Like to think about
it is it's one like like she's actually somebody you

(08:02):
would want to hang around in a freaking person.

Speaker 2 (08:04):
I cannot say the same about you, and you lucky.
I was a little debrated.

Speaker 1 (08:09):
I'm sorry for m I can't say him because I
know he tuning in because you always can tell a fan,
so I know you. I don't like you at all.
That was I was a little nebraded, and I was
there for business. Was the only reason I didn't get
off off in your ass. You are so lucky, Thank
you God.

Speaker 2 (08:30):
If you would have told me that girl, I would
have toaret that hole girl. She's shaving and.

Speaker 1 (08:37):
The way I was just like, I have to find
a way to end this interaction because I know me
once I'm like, I'm I'm a I'm a.

Speaker 2 (08:45):
Pretty I can communicate frustration pretty well.

Speaker 1 (08:49):
You do until I can't, until I can't, and then
and now we have to clear the room because.

Speaker 2 (08:59):
Because I'm gone to far and done way too much.

Speaker 1 (09:01):
You know, like I'll business, y'all. It just right, given
that it's a time and place for everything. It just wasn't.
It wasn't the time. People just got to be able
to read the wrong like you know, I think that,
like you said time and place, like if it's professional.

Speaker 2 (09:16):
And then like who are you communicating with?

Speaker 1 (09:19):
Like if we're we're in a business setting and you're
essentially talking to people that you do not.

Speaker 2 (09:23):
Know, why are you so comfortable? Have you had too
much to drink?

Speaker 1 (09:26):
That's a problem for me because now you don't know
how to carry yourself in professional settings.

Speaker 2 (09:30):
I'm concerned. I would never want to work with you.
I would have even.

Speaker 1 (09:34):
More concern into the fact that you had myths and
your breath was still hollering all holotosis, and I can't
get over it, the way your breath sends my nose hairs,
the way I just kept being like, oh my god,
this is why the mass mandate needs to come back,
because I literally need you to smell with the rocks
been like you your breath the crowd, Wow, it's you,

(09:58):
god girl, you said and swam baby. That was such
an odd interaction, and I will this person will remain nameless.
But I spoke to them about it. It was so
much confusion. He was like, I have no idea what
that was about. And then even the other person we

(10:19):
spoke to like I don't like to. I will never
be like I don't like somebody because of what somebody
else said. I'm going to have my own interaction with
a person before I make an assessment, because that's people.
I'm sure people have said negative things about me and
wanted to prejudge me.

Speaker 2 (10:34):
So I don't do people like that.

Speaker 1 (10:35):
But if you have a pattern of being a certain
type of way around multiple people, I trust people's patterns.
I'm not gonna be the one to go against the grain.
I'm not interested in helping you redeem your reputation. You
are exactly who you have shown many people that you are.
And that's just that on that that part, that part,

(10:56):
and that's who irritated me and her.

Speaker 2 (11:00):
I don't know how he got here, but you know
how he got here.

Speaker 1 (11:04):
Y'all be there because you could be next. Oh my god,
speaking girl, speaking of being set off, you gotta ask me,
friend girl, happy girl. Offset is back telling people upset
anything he get on my nerves.

Speaker 2 (11:25):
So he done.

Speaker 1 (11:25):
Went on the Full Speed podcast to open up about
his divorce from Cardi, and he admits that he probably
would never get married again, and he's warning others uh
to not get married unless they're open to changing everything
about their life.

Speaker 2 (11:37):
And my only response.

Speaker 1 (11:40):
Is duh, because you can't be single and married at
the same time.

Speaker 2 (11:47):
It was the type of stuff that I'll be talking.

Speaker 1 (11:48):
About when when I say men will aggressively pursue you
and not have a clue what they're signing up for.
But it's absolutely and that's another thing. And I just
want to commend him. Thank you for taking yourself.

Speaker 2 (12:02):
Or taking yourself. I thank you for not ruining anyone
else's life.

Speaker 1 (12:06):
Like, way to take accountabiit look, give it up, way
to take accountability, y'alls, my boy, offset you're doing a
good thing. Okay, that's a great thing for you to
just take yourself completely off the market and not ruin
anyone else's life or impregnate someone else.

Speaker 2 (12:21):
You know what I'm saying. I'm hoping maybe besected me next.
I don't know. Let's talk about it.

Speaker 1 (12:25):
But.

Speaker 2 (12:27):
Turn the voltage up a bit.

Speaker 1 (12:31):
Here, like come on now, all said, Yes, when you
get married, things change. They're supposed to change because you
are literally coming with someone else. You guys are trying
to figure out how to cohabitate together, you know what
I mean? So yes, they are going to be some
compromises that you're going to have to give. The issue
with you was you did none of that. You did
not compromise in any way, shape or form. What you

(12:53):
did was and I hate to say this, and pregnate
that woman so that she would not be able to leave,
or so you thought, because obviously she proved you wrong.
Like having three kids by you ain't stopping nothing. So
she's continuing on today, and I'm glad that her. She's
still very much successful.

Speaker 2 (13:08):
Like you.

Speaker 1 (13:09):
I see him going to podcasting. I think with Joe,
butten oh, come, I'm like waity to get inviced sometimes.
Side note, Cliffhancher, just look at the people who y'all
getting advice exactly.

Speaker 2 (13:22):
Just once, y'all just considered the life.

Speaker 1 (13:25):
Always consider this before you do what they're telling you
to do. Consider the source because even listen, the Bible
says you'll know a tree by the fruit it bears.

Speaker 2 (13:36):
Okay, if you're if you're interested in having apples, you
can't talk to an orange tree over there. Keep that
in mind.

Speaker 1 (13:44):
Hello, you start that apples to orch Hello, had a
would have had a full circle moment.

Speaker 2 (13:54):
Amen.

Speaker 1 (13:56):
Sometimes sometimes they be like that they be, and then
you know it's not a it's not a.

Speaker 2 (14:01):
Male or female thing, this is a human thing.

Speaker 1 (14:05):
We will see social social media, you know, personalities and
think that this is the way my life needs to be,
or we'll get advice from our friends who haven't had
to endure half the things we've endured, who are not in.

Speaker 2 (14:14):
The same space. You're taking recipes from people who haven't
cooked the damn thing. Hello, Hello, you must consider the source.
I'm sorry I cut you out and brought me.

Speaker 1 (14:25):
Anytime you got a sermon to preach, I'm little with
me because when the spirit moved, Hey, hey, all right,
because God will hey, listen, anybody I'm taking to use anybody.

Speaker 2 (14:44):
Now.

Speaker 1 (14:44):
This is such an interesting conversation, though, because I'm thinking
that people really don't understand what marriage means, and I
and I also think we're operating from a faulty understanding
of what it meant in the past. In the past,
marriage was the man goes out makes the money and
the women stay home and raise the kid to do
the housework and all that stuff. That wasn't even fair,
but it was the way that it was. Because women
couldn't have bank accounts, they couldn't have David Card's own property,

(15:07):
get a job, all these things, and now only just recently,
I think people think that it was so far away.
This is in the last sixty two hundred years, y'all,
that women have had rights, that black people have had
certain rights, and so marriage does not look like this anymore,
especially when women are getting more degrees and having more

(15:30):
income and just doing more things with less resources. It's
crazy that we're getting sixty three cents on the dollar
to every white man and we're still out earning a
lot of our counterparts. So yeah, you do have to change,
not just for marriage to exist, period. That's the whole
idea of evolution, offset that things have to evolve. If

(15:53):
you do not evolve, you become as extinct. And that
is uh, that's science. Because when the last time you've
seen a dinosaur, I haven't seen one way one the
way you make me stick, it's gonna be it's gonna
be somebody, somebody gonna be in a comments.

Speaker 2 (16:13):
Well, you know chickens was evolved. Shut up, shut shut up.

Speaker 1 (16:17):
You have not you know t Rex, a stratosaurus, a
death for Nino.

Speaker 2 (16:21):
You ain't seen none of them. There are the last The.

Speaker 1 (16:24):
Last one I saw was on Scandal when Papa Pump
was positioning it in the in the Smithsonian. That's the
last time I saw it by these lord But they
could take the advice and evolve, like that's all we
want your to everybody is needed for everybody agreed. And
and he, like I said, he was on Joe Budden's
show and basically was saying that anybody who he has

(16:45):
left has never done better than him.

Speaker 2 (16:48):
That's a problem. That's a problem, sir, you are the
weakest link. You're damaging people.

Speaker 1 (16:56):
You are damnaging people. That's oh my god, you are
literally damaging people. And this is exactly what I'm saying.
Thank you for taking yourself off the market so you
don't ruin another soul. We appreciate you for taking accountability.
If nothing else was talked about, that's what I want
to talk about, like, please remove yourself. Joe Button, I
hate to get on him, but he also was kind

(17:17):
of chiming in on that, which was interesting, like he
seemed like he was looking at offset like he might
have been lying. But then you know, Joe Button is
a hard He's a tough one to kind of like
figure out because he too has quite a bit of
skeletons in his closet. And he is also a womanizer,
and I don't care what nobody said, He's the one
hundred percent of womanizer. There are too many women who
have came forth and said the things that he has
done to them, So to go on the show to

(17:39):
talk to him is weird to me, Like I would
never want to be on a show like that. Needless
to say, I'm proud of Cardi b I'm happy for
her finally moving on, because girl, I felt like she
was in a chokeo and she was.

Speaker 2 (17:51):
Never gonna get out of it. Like it just seemed
like when we talked.

Speaker 1 (17:54):
About boundaries earlier and how people don't respect your boundaries,
Offset has shown throughout the years that he does not
res multiple times, I'm telling you, he don't respect her
boundaries at all. And he started off like that when
they first started dating, and he came out on the
stage and big old flowers and interrupted her performance and
then these grand, grandiose like gestures to get her back

(18:15):
and buying her all these burking bags and room full.

Speaker 2 (18:18):
Of flowers and stuff.

Speaker 1 (18:19):
And it's always been so materialistic that you can always
tell that there is no core there, there are no
real deep conversations, there's no showing show y'all at therapy
talking to the lady. That's what I want to set
the camera up in the room when y'all go talk
to the lady.

Speaker 2 (18:32):
That's what I want to a part.

Speaker 1 (18:34):
It has all been so very public, and I think,
to me, that's the mark of a narcissist, because true
intimacy and true love does it.

Speaker 2 (18:44):
It's not always loud and aggressive and boisterous.

Speaker 1 (18:48):
It is very much like Tianna Taylor just said that
Aaron Pierre handles her like a cup of tea. That
means he's slow with her, he's careful with her, he's
intentional with her.

Speaker 2 (18:59):
Tea is not a lie out aggressive drink. You don't
go to a launch and have.

Speaker 1 (19:06):
It.

Speaker 2 (19:06):
Don't give that.

Speaker 1 (19:08):
It's a very intentional you know something, you have to
stepid and.

Speaker 2 (19:13):
Brule it and.

Speaker 1 (19:15):
You have to nurture it. And so I think the
fact that this was all very much loud and aggressive
and in everybody's faces.

Speaker 2 (19:23):
That to me was the kiss of death.

Speaker 1 (19:25):
And I feel like that is probably the same for
a lot of relationships. Social media is making us overshare,
and I think.

Speaker 2 (19:34):
People are so addicted to attention and doing.

Speaker 1 (19:37):
Things for clout and notoriety that they have lost the
art of number one mind in your own business, but.

Speaker 2 (19:44):
Number two discretion.

Speaker 1 (19:48):
I don't need to know every single aspect of your
dating and then marriage and then divorce and then custody battle.
Like we've literally seen all the phases of CARDI and
off sense relationship.

Speaker 2 (19:58):
Yeah, I mean they got one to know them.

Speaker 1 (20:01):
Yeah great, Yeah, and it's but you know what's even
more messed up is somebody And this is a great example,
perfect because somebody who would put their entire marriage out
there online for us to see to comment on in
the same breath, will.

Speaker 2 (20:16):
Be like, y'all need to stay on my business.

Speaker 1 (20:17):
All y'all care about what's going on with me in
my business and dad, but you literally have walked us
through step they Hey, you know your girl go have
her INDs to the street, okay, cause y'all know I
like a little business, a little tea. But at the
same time, it's just like, y'all offer all this information

(20:38):
and didn't get so mad when people comment on every
aspect of your life.

Speaker 2 (20:42):
I just don't think that that's fair either yeah, I mean,
well we don't want to know. Well, some people might
want to know, but we don't really need to know.

Speaker 1 (20:49):
And I think that's more so protection for the people
that's posting, like Cartie's got kids, she has family, she
got a sister, she got all this other stuff going on,
and I think, like I don't like that when stuff
plays out in the court of public opinion, people starting
to take sighs.

Speaker 2 (21:04):
A lot of time, social media can swaye things.

Speaker 1 (21:06):
We've seen this with the Justice small Let documentary on netflick, because.

Speaker 2 (21:10):
I've watched it.

Speaker 1 (21:11):
I did a review, and I'm still even more confused,
and I don't I don't think any of this should
have made it to social media for whatever he whatever
reason this event happened. The two brothers that capitalized off
of it, which I didn't even know they were doing
a press tour, but they was going around week after
week making jokes about just paying them to basically beat

(21:34):
him up.

Speaker 2 (21:35):
And I mean, it's just too much. It's too much
for us to have to witness.

Speaker 1 (21:39):
And I will stand ten toes down on this when
I say we as a society are being overstimulated. We
were never supposed to know this much about each other
or in general. Now, I love that things are happening
in real time and politically we're able to digest information
almost instantaneously because they're trying to rewrite history.

Speaker 2 (22:00):
So I love that.

Speaker 1 (22:02):
But the rest of this stuff, like, girl, why do
I know you got your kids taken away?

Speaker 2 (22:06):
Why do I know?

Speaker 1 (22:07):
And why am I dad on CPS? It's there sewing,
I'm dragging are you? Why why your kids are being taken?
Like I don't understand brand, but I question, So after
watching the Jesse smell At documentary, what is your conspiracy theory?

Speaker 2 (22:24):
Even though you said you have more questions?

Speaker 1 (22:26):
What would you say happened just hypothetically, you know, allegedly,
what would what's your synopsis.

Speaker 2 (22:36):
That Nigga lion.

Speaker 1 (22:41):
And And honestly, to be fair, there was not a
bit of that documentary that made sense. There were witnesses
that came forward that test that that shared basically that
they agreed with what Jesse said, but there's no footage
of the incident, Like there's there's all this CCTV footage,
uh and gas stations and on the street came and
all of this stuff, But just at that time where

(23:02):
that incident took place where he got beat up by the.

Speaker 2 (23:06):
He said it was a white man. There's just no
footage of it.

Speaker 1 (23:09):
And then this guy that was at a corn operated
laundry up the street said he saw a white guy
the same kind that Jesse described. They deleted Chicago ped
he deleted the footage. I'm like, y'all, there's too much
going on. You have completely confused people.

Speaker 2 (23:25):
And we still we are.

Speaker 1 (23:27):
We're not any more knowledgeable of this case than we
were before I clicked play.

Speaker 2 (23:31):
Dang, they got horrible. Then document a horrible to bring
some level of clarity.

Speaker 1 (23:37):
The fact that you like it did nothing for me
is wild because I'm like, I'm just I mean, to
be honest, I thought he was lying, you know what
I'm saying. I always thought he was lying when the evidence.
When it first happened, it was like, oh my god,
Oh my god. But then as the evidence start to unfold,
it was like, oh, he lying. That's embarrassing girl, because
I get second hand imbursement fast, like, oh my god,

(23:57):
can't it's cringey. If it's too cringey, I really just
don't been no longer entertainment, So like to hear the
documentary came out and it wasn't in his favor, like, sir,
why did.

Speaker 2 (24:07):
You let that come out? But he made innocence though.

Speaker 1 (24:11):
He sat there and he told them, he said, I've
never I didn't do this. He said, I don't care
how you feel about me, but I didn't do this,
and that's all that matters.

Speaker 2 (24:18):
And I said, justin You've got to go to hell.

Speaker 1 (24:21):
You have to you, the Nigerian Brothers, the lawyer, the
Chicago PD, everybody involved has to go to hell because
this was so it was so confusing and unnecessary.

Speaker 2 (24:31):
We didn't need this's nobody.

Speaker 1 (24:32):
Asked for it, and I feel like they, you know,
they made some comments about Jesse trying to boost his career.
He told somebody that he wanted to become the gay Tupac.
This is what the Nigerian Brothers testified to and so
I just think that it all bought down to Jesse.

Speaker 2 (24:47):
Trying to get some more money.

Speaker 1 (24:49):
And I'm not mad at people paying bills because you know,
we got to pay some bills too. Okay, friend, now
that we got that part out of the way, you
down for a.

Speaker 2 (24:57):
Little girl talk, yes, always always, Okay.

Speaker 1 (25:01):
So this is gonna be like a little touchy subject
because I know people will be you know, it's one
of the happiest moments of your life as a woman,
especially Like how do you explain to your fiance that
your engagement ring is not the engagement ring that you
expected and you maybe kind of sort of don't like it.
Do you say something and just keep three like how

(25:21):
are we handling this?

Speaker 2 (25:23):
I have questions? Okay, did he never take me to
did I never show him anything? Like? How do I
ain't make a mistake like that? You know what I mean?

Speaker 1 (25:34):
Like even if you I feel like when you get
to a certain point in your relationship and you guys
are talking about getting married, you just naturally go look
at rings like or you show them things that you like, like, oh,
I love a princess cut, I love a brown, I
love an emerald cut.

Speaker 2 (25:48):
You know, diamond?

Speaker 1 (25:49):
You know I want a Leo diamond, or I want
an incrusted bangor I used to working k Julius.

Speaker 2 (25:55):
I want any all the way around, you know, like
details and they should be asking you details.

Speaker 1 (26:03):
So if I go through all of that and I'm
doing all of that and you decide to give me
something totally opposite. Then we got something else that we
need to be talking about. And actually we should postpone
the wedding because now you don't use your listening years.
If you hear my voice cloud once, that's first grade.
We're talking about WHOA.

Speaker 2 (26:25):
That's I agree one thousand percent.

Speaker 1 (26:27):
But people do that though they will hear you explain
exactly what you want and need and do the opposite
because that's what they want to do. And I think
in the past women should just be grateful. You know
that somebody wants to marry you, you should be grateful and
somebody about your ring. So people don't want to say
I don't really like this me personally, I'm gonna not
like it till the cows come home. I'm standing on
the roof shouting it from the rooftops.

Speaker 2 (26:49):
Okay, yeah, I don't want this.

Speaker 1 (26:54):
Then you wear it, You put it on your engagement ring,
your engage you customized that you specifically. People need to
care what they person wants. It's just about being considerate.
Like at this where I'm at in my life, you
don't need to surprise me with nothing. I don't like

(27:15):
surprises no more. I'm too old for surprises. You need
to tell me what is going on. No, you need
to tell me what's going on so I can dress properly.
I could have my hair done, nails on, whatever the
case may be. I need to know what is going
on because if you throw me in some foolishness and
I don't like it, You're gonna be upset with my response,
and I would rather us just have a heart to heart.
You can still the proposal can be a surprise. You

(27:37):
could just say, hey, if we were to get married,
what kind of ring would you like. I'm the type
of person I'm not gonna get giddy and over excited
and be like okay any day now. I'm just gonna say, Okay,
you asked the question, I answered it, and keep it moving.

Speaker 2 (27:50):
I'm still trying to make sure you wash your ass
every day.

Speaker 1 (27:52):
I'm still trying to make sure you are responsible enough
to balance your bills and make sure stuff is handled.

Speaker 2 (27:57):
I'm sure.

Speaker 1 (27:58):
I'm still trying to make sure that you keep your
word and when you say you're gonna do something, you
do it.

Speaker 2 (28:02):
So the ring is not gonna throw me off your set.
I'm a blood house.

Speaker 3 (28:08):
But that.

Speaker 1 (28:10):
They be buying rings to distract women they like, if
I get Jill, stop digging into me cheating. No, sorry,
I went through the phone, I got the I got
the pass code. I know what you're No, we're not
doing that offset over here now, and they say, get
you upset.

Speaker 2 (28:25):
I'm not on that.

Speaker 1 (28:26):
So now I feel like I love surprises. I am
somebody who absolutely loves surprises, but include me, right, And
what that means is exactly what I said in the beginning.
But I'm gonna have to pick out three rings that
I like. That way, I'm still surprised whichever one you choose.
It's like I don't know which one I'm gonna get,
but I do like all three of these, you know,
just to give you options.

Speaker 2 (28:45):
And but don't do that. The answer to this whole
thing is just don't do that now. What I don't like.

Speaker 1 (28:53):
What I don't like is like, say, if it's a
couple that got engaged, right, and the woman looks happy
and they seem happy, and you could tell maybe maybe
they just don't have a lot of money, and so
the diamond is small, but she is happy, like she
knows that they're happy, and she posted it online.

Speaker 2 (29:11):
And everybody in the comments like, oh your ring small.
See you cannot be in the comments. Oh your ring small?
Oh why you get that for her? Oh?

Speaker 1 (29:20):
Why you should have never accepted? That says, I just
don't want to be in anybody's business that much.

Speaker 2 (29:25):
That would never be me. That's not gonna be me.

Speaker 1 (29:28):
But I would not comment on somebody else's rings after together.
I don't know their situation. And if she alright, would
it didn't? Let her be cool with it. But don't
you and whoever you are, I don't know who this
message is for.

Speaker 2 (29:39):
Don't come over here with no peace size. If I
got the remember I'm here one of these.

Speaker 1 (29:45):
Does you remember on the game on the game when
Melanie Ring fell out and they had to look forward
at the dinner and the.

Speaker 2 (29:52):
Girl was saying, I think I found it. Oh that's
a crowd off. See she ran the bathroom embarrassed.

Speaker 1 (30:02):
And I'm one of those people like, if you can't
afford a nice you know ring or something, I'm okay
just going to the courthouse made like I'm I've been
married before, so I'm all.

Speaker 2 (30:13):
I'm over the.

Speaker 1 (30:13):
Frills and the pumping circumstance of big you know events
and stuff like that.

Speaker 2 (30:19):
Big big body, big to be dusty. That's what I
exactly want. I want extract you know what I had
that it didn't mean a damn thing.

Speaker 1 (30:33):
So I think that's why, like once once you have
that's you, well, it would be me if I could
trust that you was the person that I would want
to spend the rest of my life with.

Speaker 2 (30:44):
Like, I don't mind people.

Speaker 1 (30:46):
My thing is if you can't afford X y Z,
please don't put us in debt trying to do it.
That's I'm not a materialistic person, but if you're going
to do something, you've got to go big or go home.

Speaker 2 (30:59):
That's how I feel. If you're going to do it,
do it to the fullest extent, and just like you said,
include me. I don't want to be left out.

Speaker 1 (31:07):
Trying to call my homegirl. She probably us. I understand
her something, you know, like I won't pay you.

Speaker 2 (31:14):
She make it, Yeah, make it.

Speaker 1 (31:15):
She gonna she gonna make sure that you do it
right because she knows me. But please don't just go
and do some stuff and think that I'm supposed to
just be accepting because I just need to be grateful
because you wanted.

Speaker 2 (31:28):
To do it.

Speaker 1 (31:29):
Yeah, And I I loved my ring I that'd be
all right. I loved my engagement ring, I really did.

Speaker 2 (31:35):
Real you gave it. I grid pond it. Oh, I
love you God, you make me. Yeah, my heart got
flutters in it. I was one. Took me for a friend,
I want to say.

Speaker 1 (31:44):
It took me about three months to be okay with it,
and then I just went on to the pawn shop
and I got rid of it.

Speaker 2 (31:50):
No no, no, no, no, no no. It took me.

Speaker 1 (31:54):
I got my divorce was final June twenty third, twenty
twenty one.

Speaker 2 (31:59):
It took me to the following summer. I remember, it
took me to It took me a year.

Speaker 1 (32:03):
It took me to the following summer to let the
ring go. I wasn't wearing it, but it took me
a year to let it go. Not because I missed
him and I wanted the marriage back, but because I
felt like, that's like, going through a divorce is so crazy,
because you have planned your life like you think you're
going to be with this person forever, and then it
just was not like that so very soon. So that's

(32:26):
why about people giving the ring back, I'm not giving
you nothing back.

Speaker 2 (32:29):
That was a gift and I can legally do whatever
I want to do with it. I feel that way too.
That's how I feel too. That's why I was like,
did you give it back or did you keep it
on or something? Because giving the ring back is so
interest crazy. A lot of people, Yeah, a lot of
people feel like you should get back with It's like,
why do I have to get It's mine?

Speaker 1 (32:45):
Like I like it and if you do it right,
then I really picked it out or customizing it like it's.

Speaker 2 (32:50):
My work for me anyway, Yeah, like what are you
gonna give it to the next woman? Like that's weird?
Would they not know? But not with my ring? You
won't not not that. So I'm gonna pull up gilbert
a ring and to swap them rings out. You'll get
a decoy. I'll be right down there.

Speaker 1 (33:08):
Ring turn when you'll ring for then turn green, you'll
know you've been had. Was so smart. That was so smart.
But we're just about to say about the rings. Oh yeah,
I was saying that they're gonna have a field day
with this because I want to go back to something
you said earlier, which was people feel like we should
take whatever is given to us and we should just
be happy that we're getting married, that somebody wants to

(33:29):
marry us, you should be okay with whatever. And I
have to say to that is, why would the person
who say they want to spend the rest of their
life with me be okay with me accepting anything.

Speaker 2 (33:39):
If you say that you.

Speaker 1 (33:41):
Love me and you want to be with me, why
would you think that I should just take scraps or
take anything that you present with no effort or thought
behind it.

Speaker 2 (33:50):
I don't think that that's right.

Speaker 1 (33:51):
I think we got to start looking at both sides,
stop looking at us as though we're ungrateful, and start
looking at the person who had every opportunity to get
it right and took none of those. Like that's not
a me problem, that's a you problem. That's why I
said everything would have to be put on hold because
I see this is going to be an issue overall.
Absolutely not listening, not paying attention. I'm not asking you
to read my mind. I'm asking you to pay attention. Yes,

(34:12):
that's what I'm asking to do. I'm asking you to
pay attention. And they act like they it's so difficult,
and I girl, I.

Speaker 2 (34:19):
Whoever it is. I don't know if I'll ever get
married again, but if I do.

Speaker 1 (34:24):
But if I do, I know for a fact, it
just it has to be the right person, you know,
Like I feel like my marriage was a result of
me just accepting what I thought. I'm gonna put it
like this, the best you ever had is not the
It's not necessarily the best that you could ever have.

Speaker 2 (34:42):
It's not the best that you deserve.

Speaker 1 (34:45):
And what I mean by that is this person might
be traeing you great m but that's still not your person.
This person could be giving you all the things that
you want, but it could be better. And I'm not
saying to be just perpetually und satisfied.

Speaker 2 (35:01):
I'm just saying, really, take a look at it.

Speaker 1 (35:03):
Because the person that would give you any old thing
and ask you to marry them, what if I accepted that,
what does that.

Speaker 2 (35:08):
Say about this whole relationship? Yeah? Yeah, yeah, absolutely agree.
And I think you just gotta give me no effort.
Yeah exactly.

Speaker 1 (35:16):
You don't give me no effort. You're gonna do what
you want to sppost to be like, oh, thank you
so much. Like it doesn't and it doesn't mean that
I'm ungrateful. It feels like I wasn't included. You married
yourself that's what it feels like, That's what it felt
And I feel like you just wanted a roommate because
speaking of people do stuff like that to lock you

(35:38):
into things, I think when it's not genuine and you're
not included.

Speaker 2 (35:42):
I think that's what it means. But speaking of somebody
only being.

Speaker 1 (35:45):
Your roommate, girl, I know we live alone, so it's
not an issue for us.

Speaker 2 (35:50):
But how would you feel about having a roommate as
an adult?

Speaker 1 (35:56):
Because you know, in college it made sense maybe when
you first got on your.

Speaker 2 (36:00):
Feet, it made sense when you early twenties, you just
trying to figure life out.

Speaker 1 (36:04):
But I think it's a little more challenging now, Like
what's the best way to set boundaries with a roommate
while you're an adult, because whether it's somebody you've known
your whole life or somebody you just mad or whatever, Like,
what do you think you would have to do? Because
I don't know if I could see myself living with
nobody else again a girl, I cannot do roommates. First
of all, I'm kind of like the only child. Me

(36:24):
and my sister fourteen years apart, so like she's older
than me, and I've always had my own space always,
no matter what. So it's hard for me to have
a roommate. But in this economy, I'm not mad at
people getting roommates, you know what I mean. I'm be honest.
This is nothing racial. I want to put that out
there real quick. Latinos they do it, Africans.

Speaker 2 (36:45):
They do it.

Speaker 1 (36:46):
A lot of people live in one household together because
of the economy, Like it's just so expensive to live alone. Like,
praise God, me and you are able to do it.
But that's not real life for most people, you know
what I'm saying. And in situations like that, with an
adult girl, I would have I would have too many
rules because I want stuff done the way that I
want because it's always been like that.

Speaker 2 (37:07):
When I leave it right here, I'm not.

Speaker 1 (37:09):
Expecting you to touch my stuff or eat my stuff
or move my stuff around, like girl washing your ass
and the Saint could never evicted him really, Like couldn't.

Speaker 2 (37:18):
Never wash it in the kitchen sink.

Speaker 1 (37:21):
Hell no, I mean, like it's just so many I
don't think I would be any fun to be a
roommate with now because I'm setting my ways and I've
been living alone for so long that I would have
rules for everything.

Speaker 2 (37:31):
Everything would get on my nerves, everything would bother me. Yeah,
I just I'm not interested.

Speaker 1 (37:35):
If I if I could have it split down the
middle and you have your own bedroom, bathroom, kitchen, living room,
off like I would do a duplex with somebody. But
I can't have no common spaces with nobody because I
like to Number one, I walking around naked.

Speaker 2 (37:51):
Number two, I'm eating whatever I want to eat. And
if you tell I'm not cooking for you behind you
like this is a parent, This is not a parent.
Oh yeah, you can't be. I don't want to hear
that through the wall. I don't want to hear that.

Speaker 1 (38:07):
And I don't want you to hear me either, like
my own privacy, like mind your business, And I don't
want you to see who I'm talking to either want
to do plex, like I don't want you to see
them like.

Speaker 2 (38:17):
Outside the people be nosy. People do be nosy.

Speaker 1 (38:21):
They be always trying to girl. That's why this whole
YouTube thing that you was telling me about, it's so
difficult because I feel like people just want to be
in your business. But I'm trying to find a way
to be connective people without losing too.

Speaker 2 (38:33):
Much my privacy.

Speaker 1 (38:34):
But I think having a roommate would be a huge
just like I think that it would be a like
I don't want to be that vulnerable with somebody.

Speaker 2 (38:43):
And then I don't even want to I don't even want.

Speaker 1 (38:47):
You to open my home up to people that I
don't know, Like I would be thinking, like suppose you
decide you want to have a couple of friends over
they done broke something in the living room, or now
people just have my address and you know, like I
don't know, and we can't let people because of that
right there, that key point. People cannot just have access

(39:07):
to us unlimitedly like that because we have large platforms
like it don't give everybody know where we live at
and can just come upstairs to wherever we at, or
write a stalker or you just have somebody who's hella
imresponsible and just pick bad partners. And so this person
is crazy and now they're trying to knock down the
door and you can't even leave your house because this
person outside, you know, it's just I don't know, I

(39:30):
don't know.

Speaker 2 (39:30):
I will get out that door though, because let me
tell you.

Speaker 1 (39:32):
Something, You you come over here with that shit, you
come over here, and I tell people all the time,
you're going to get if you're campaigning for an ass whooping.

Speaker 2 (39:45):
They're gonna get elected. Okay, you're going to get elected.
And I'm not.

Speaker 1 (39:51):
Coming out there trying to have no heart to heart
and have a mature one on one. I'm not gonna
get out. But getting out means you let them in
and then like, Okay, that person, something happened.

Speaker 2 (40:03):
It's just friend, it's too much.

Speaker 1 (40:05):
It's already too much about it, Like i cannot be
for another person self defense if I'm defending myself on
my property.

Speaker 2 (40:13):
You had no business coming over here anyway. Yeah, you're like,
we got you got what was coming to you. You shouldn't.
If you hadn't f' around, you wouldn't have found out.
But here we are. Now you're on a T shirt
and I'm on the news. So and when is that
pay in.

Speaker 1 (40:28):
The luxuries of your own home? And that's what I'm
talking about. You in prison, that person on a T
shirt and Nate chilling in the house.

Speaker 2 (40:36):
Ye, why no, I'm not doing it. I don't it
do be a lot that.

Speaker 1 (40:43):
I'm glad we I'm glad we walked through the throat
thought process of this together as friends, because that just
let me know I will never have a Romantica in
my life. The only person that if I find a
man that wants to pay all the bills, yes, he
can say hello, he can say. Nobody else's life her,
everybody else got to go. Everybody else, you've got to go.

(41:05):
I need to get up out of here. Okay, all right,
because I'm leaving. Speaking of midnight training to Georgia. Y'all
know the name is actually moving to Atlanta. Keep lying and.

Speaker 2 (41:23):
She's gonna manifest me in she keeps saying it.

Speaker 1 (41:26):
Jesus, she's the Bible, a man to speak those things
that be not as if they allready were. And one
thing I know is the power of life and death
is in the tongue. Okay, I speak life into this
move right now in the name of Jesus. I bind
up every Montic spirit that wants to be an npee

(41:47):
bit upon the process.

Speaker 3 (41:49):
Hi in Jesus' name, and Jesus.

Speaker 2 (42:02):
I cancel.

Speaker 1 (42:03):
I cancel the assignment of Washington, DC and that orange
clown in that White House. Okay, I'm drowned because that's
what I need to do. Move all away from him.
Because he out here doing bogus.

Speaker 2 (42:13):
Things asking to go to heaven. Sir, please on my watch,
I don't even want what God said.

Speaker 1 (42:19):
I don't even want him to go to the press
briefing room, let alone Heaven.

Speaker 2 (42:23):
I'm tired of seeing him go somewhere else. Do something
at your time.

Speaker 1 (42:28):
But also, last little, last little shameless plug, make sure
y'all if y'all thinking about traveling anytime soon, we are
going to Thailand in March, so click the link in
our bidios. We do have actually the next two people
I just gotta They told me that I was able
to do like a little discount. So the next two
people that book like it don't matter when, but you
have to book by September second.

Speaker 2 (42:48):
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Speaker 1 (42:51):
Cold j L one hundred th h a I, you'll
get two hundred dollars off. So if you're not paying
a fishing, if you're not hand answer to the podcast,
you didn't get that because that's how hard to drop.
You want to come to Tiland with us now, as
y'all know, it's eighteen fifty, but sixteen fifty.

Speaker 2 (43:08):
Come on, you can't beat that.

Speaker 1 (43:12):
We know in Thailand, y'all missing out because y'all know,
my girl is our vibe. We're a good doing it now.
I do hate to drop that off and run, but
you know, unfortunately, unfortunately that so I hope y'all stay tunic.

Speaker 2 (43:27):
Cap there because I would love to.

Speaker 1 (43:29):
We would love to turn up with y'all in Thailand,
and we we need a break from the United States
for sure, Yes.

Speaker 2 (43:35):
We do, y'all.

Speaker 1 (43:36):
And with that band said, we're gonna go ahead and
head out, so y'all can head over there and get
the next two people.

Speaker 2 (43:42):
Okay.

Speaker 1 (43:42):
Just in the meantime and I meantime, you can catch
us on YouTube for the visuals for this podcast every Thursday,
and if you like the audio, you can listen to
us wherever you listen to your podcast. Just make sure
you like, comment and subscribe and hit that notification bill
so you will know exactly when we do upload. Alright, y'all, Well,
until next time, Hey bye. Yeah,
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