Brett Jensen Filling in On The Brett Winterble Show

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Speaker 1 (00:15):
Welcome to the Bright Winnables Show. Brett Jensen here is
sitting in for mister Winnable. Same first name, different last name.
We're going up until six o'clock tonight. I do not
have a show tonight, all right, I do not have
a show tonight, So you've got me for the next
three hours in this pre election extravaganza, as I'm liking
to call it right now. It is going from three

(00:36):
to six pm tonight with tons of interviews lined up
with people running for the races for the election tomorrow.
So we've got a lot going on, and I mean
a lot. And we also have in an hour from now,
Sheriff Garry McFadden joining us, and we've got David Hodges
from WBTV News coming in studio with us. And we've
got a lot of people that are going to be
on the show today because tomorrow is election day and

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early voting is extremely high. And we'll get all of
that later on, but right now, the new CMPD police
chief is Stella Patterson was introduced to the world today,
or at least to the city as Charlotte and the
CMPD officers, and they held a press conference is about
thirty minutes long or so thereabouts. And what I'm going
to play for you is what's how it went down.

(01:20):
So the first thing that you're going to hear, and
we'll get to the Q and as like in a
bit in a little bit, including my questions about are
you going to bring in officers? You talk about recruit
recruitment and retention, and you keep you know, and you
said perception, but isn't it actually reality as opposed to
perception the crime? So anyways, but here's Marcus Jones, Charlotte

(01:42):
City Manager, introducing who will be now Estella Patterson, the
new police chief at CMPD.

Speaker 2 (01:49):
When Chief Jennings announced his retirement from this position, reattracted
a lot of applicants from across the country. It reflects
the reputation of the organization. Early in the process, we
solicited your feedback, council, community leaders and CMPD members. What

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was clear, there's great pride in being a member of CMPD.
What's also clear is that we need to address safety,
the acts, the reality as well as the perceptions. And
what was also clear is that we need to ensure
that the department grows with this growing community. We had

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thirty five highly qualified candidates. We narrowed that down to
twelve and then finally four, and over and over again,
one name kept coming up.

Speaker 1 (02:49):
Estella Patterson.

Speaker 2 (02:51):
So in each level of this process, she just kept
winning and winning and winning. So with that, I'm very
pleased to introduce to you our next police Chief, Estella Patterson.

Speaker 3 (03:14):
Thank you. I don't know whether it's appropriate for me
to say nine or nation maybe not. Good morning everyone.
It is with great excitement, immense.

Speaker 4 (03:26):
Gratitude, and deep humility that I stand before you today
to accept the honor of serving as the next Chief
of Police for the Charlotte Mecklenburg Police Department. Indeed, Charlotte
is a city that I love, a community that I know,
and after four years of being away, I am ecstatic

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to be a returning home, both.

Speaker 3 (03:49):
To the city and to this PD. CMPD is an
outstanding police department.

Speaker 4 (03:54):
It is hands down among the best the nation has
to offer.

Speaker 3 (03:58):
So sorry, Raleigh.

Speaker 4 (04:00):
Every success that I have achieved a law enforcement has
foundationally been rooted in CMPD and the experiences that I
had with this department. Today and always, I give honor
unto the Lord Jesus Christ, who is the head of
my life, and I thank him for ordering my.

Speaker 3 (04:18):
Steps back to the Queen City.

Speaker 4 (04:21):
To City Manager Marcus Jones, thank you, sir for the
trust and confidence you have in me to take the
reins and lead CMPD into.

Speaker 3 (04:28):
Its next chapter.

Speaker 4 (04:30):
To Madam Mayor vo Laws, the City Council, and the
City of Charlotte's staff, I look forward to working alongside
each of you in supporting every effort to make Charlotte
the safest large city in the nation. To Chief Jennings,
my colleague and friend, thank you for your leadership and

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your hard work over.

Speaker 3 (04:52):
The past five years and the past fifteen years as
a mentor and a confidant.

Speaker 4 (04:57):
To me, I say to you congratulatestions on a job
well done. Serving as Chief of Police as a calling
that I do not take lightly, I recognize the badge
of my office as a symbol of public trust and faith,

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as stated in our Law Enforcement Code of Ethics. In
my twenty eight and a half years of public service,
I have devoted myself to building trust with the communities
I've served and with the employees that I have led.
Coming into this role, I will continue to do the
same thing. I will lead from the front with excellence, integrity,
and transparency, upholding the great nobility of this profession. As

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I prepare for the next chapter for CMPD, my top
priorities lie in reducing violent crime and disorder and addressing
the perception of crime that is often magnified with every
violent incident that touches our communities. As a department, we
will continue to identify prolific.

Speaker 3 (06:05):
Offenders who victimize, and we.

Speaker 4 (06:07):
Will work closely with law enforcement and other public safety
partners to hold offenders accountable to the criminal element. Hear
me loudly, your actions will not go unchecked. As guardians
and protectors, we will be relentless in our pursuit to identify, arrest,
and work with our state and.

Speaker 3 (06:27):
Federal partners to prosecute offenders.

Speaker 4 (06:30):
Also among my top priorities is increasing our community collaboration
and engagement efforts. We will work side by side with
our residents, our business.

Speaker 3 (06:41):
And community leaders, our faith based.

Speaker 4 (06:43):
Groups, and other stakeholders to identify and address the issues
that are most important to them. We will not impose
our will, but we will listen attentively and we will
act accordingly. I believe as we work together, our collective
efforts and our shared values will send a clear message
that this community stands with its police department, and together

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we will continue to make Charlotte a vibrant and dynamic
city for all.

Speaker 3 (07:11):
As we work with the community, we will perform our.

Speaker 4 (07:14):
Duties with the utmost professionalism, respect, and sense of duty,
while reducing violent crime and increasing community collaboration are among
my top priorities. My number one priority will be to
look inwardly within the department to increase the morale and
the wellness, because when our employees are whole, they can

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better serve the whole community. As our city continues to grow, inevitably,
the demand for police resources will increase. We will meet
those demands by eradicating our vacancies getting to zero while
maintaining the highest standards in those who desire to wear
the badge. We will seek the best and the brightest

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to fill our ranks. When we get to zero vacancies,
mister manager, I'm going to come to you and to counsel,
and I'm going to ask for more officers so that
we can better serve this community. As this department enters

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our new chapter, we will honor the past sacrifices of
those who gave all for the profession they loved. We
will meet the challenges of today with fresh perspectives and
new outlooks, and with a renewed energy and great focus.
And we will build a safer tomorrow with intentionality through
strong partnerships.

Speaker 3 (08:40):
The work will not be easy, but.

Speaker 4 (08:42):
I am confident the outcomes will be significant.

Speaker 3 (08:46):
To the many people who have supported me on this journey.

Speaker 4 (08:48):
In coming full circle back to the Queen City, some
of you are here today, I say thank you. I
am deeply, deeply, deeply grateful to your continued support. I
am thankful for the many messages, phone calls, text messages,
positive posts, words of encouragements and prayers. They are not

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lost on me, but they inspire me. They motivate me,
and they reaffirm my commitment to serve to every member
of the Charlotte community. I say thank you for this
opportunity to lead Charlotte and CMPD into our next best years.

Speaker 3 (09:28):
Thank you and God bless you.

Speaker 1 (09:33):
All. Right, So that is a Stella Patterson. You heard
her on her uninterrupted announcement statement to the City of
Charlotte and to the media earlier this morning. Mayor va
Alaus spoke. Didn't need to give you any of that
chief Jennings spoke. We can maybe play that later on
in the week, but that was the most important part.

(09:54):
When we come back in exclusive one on one, was
the only reporter out of everyone there to get Marcus Jones,
the city manager, about the hiring process, because he's the
one that hired her. And then also we're going to
hear a little bit of the press conference where we
talked about crime and safety in youth, crime in perception
versus reality and all that. So all that's coming up next.
My name is Brett Jensen, sitting in for Brett Winnable.

(10:20):
Welcome back to the Brent Winnable Show. Bret Jensen here
with you talking about the new CNPD chief of Stella Patterson.
She'll take over, like I guess, officially January second, I believe,
which is Johnny Jennings's last day because he's got to
get it through the new year and all that stuff
for bonuses or something like that. I don't know, but
he's going to stay on until at least I think
his retirement day is January second. So after she made

(10:43):
her statement, she took questions from the media. I really
amped up the audio of the people asking the questions
so you could hear them. I asked two questions. I
think it was one of two people that got to
ask two questions. So anyway, here's questions and answers to
the new MPD chief of Stella Patterson.

Speaker 5 (11:02):
Congratulations Michael work with the web TD.

Speaker 1 (11:06):
You mentioned providing a fresh perspective.

Speaker 6 (11:08):
Is there a particular issue exclusive to Charlotte that you
think deserves or needs a freshmre detective.

Speaker 4 (11:15):
I think that Charlotte is different from any other community.
We have our unique challenges and different things here, so
I'm willing to come in assess. Look, nothing specific that
I feel that we need to change necessarily, but we
want to look across the spectrum to see what we're
dealing with here.

Speaker 7 (11:31):
Right French Edison the NUDGI Radio in Charms of You
talked about recruit beginning to serio vacancies, you know, recruitment
and retention. That's been a major issue here.

Speaker 1 (11:41):
How are you want to go about doing it?

Speaker 7 (11:42):
Because those are one of the things that you actually
decided for doing of the wrong.

Speaker 3 (11:46):
Yes.

Speaker 4 (11:47):
When I arrived in Raleigh in twenty twenty one, we
were down one hundred and fifty vacancies of officers officer vacancies,
and I met with my recruitment team and I said,
this is an outstanding police department.

Speaker 3 (11:57):
Let's get these vacancies filled.

Speaker 4 (11:59):
Part of my plan is to have a robust recruitment
effort where we're going everywhere where we can recruit and
bring people into the organization. And it starts really I
see the men and women from CNPD in here.

Speaker 3 (12:10):
It starts with us being recruiters.

Speaker 4 (12:11):
Every one of us need to bring somebody into the organization,
and so we start there, and then we also have
our recruiting recruitment team going out recruiting, bringing people into
the organization. And once people see the greatness that we
have in the organization, they're going to want to be
a part of greatness.

Speaker 3 (12:26):
So that really helps our recruiting efforts. So we're going
to work really hard. We're going to make sure that
we are filling our recruit classes.

Speaker 4 (12:33):
When I was in Raleigh, I told my team we
cannot start with classes with only twenty people.

Speaker 3 (12:36):
We never moved the dial that way.

Speaker 4 (12:38):
We're going to go out, We're going to work really hard,
We're going to recruit, and we're going to have large
classes so that we can fill these vacancies.

Speaker 1 (12:44):
She's had actually walked back to the green day.

Speaker 3 (12:46):
Day thank you factor.

Speaker 1 (12:49):
Surely you need to have issues like violence, accessibility, homicides
and that we saw violence is just too.

Speaker 8 (12:55):
Over you can what's strategies for your time and wrong
here and growth for our city.

Speaker 4 (13:05):
Yes, there are several things that have worked great. Crime
is crime across the nation, different approaches that we take.
We really come back to the same basic things working.

Speaker 3 (13:14):
With the community.

Speaker 4 (13:15):
We need the community on our side to help us
to be able to identify what the crime issues are
and to help them give us information so that we
can fight crime. Also to the use of technology nowadays,
we have to rely on technology. I know that CFPD
has some really robust technology in the works. I know
we have first Responder drone. First Responder is something that

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can help us greatly.

Speaker 3 (13:36):
So we're going to really look at.

Speaker 4 (13:37):
Those technology platforms that we have and utilize them, working
very closely with.

Speaker 3 (13:42):
The community, working with our partners.

Speaker 4 (13:44):
I believe in being community centric where we're bringing everybody
into the fold to help with the crime problem. It
is not just a police problem, but it's everybody, every
citizen problem, as well as our partners and we're going
to work together with them.

Speaker 3 (13:58):
A thank you, Yeah, I goes a youth crime they where.

Speaker 4 (14:06):
The air EHU have to fact that here. My approach
to youth crime is to work very closely with the state,
with the Department of Justice and Juvenile Justice, Delinquency and
Justice to see what efforts they.

Speaker 3 (14:20):
Have to help us with the juvenile crime.

Speaker 4 (14:22):
Juvenile crime is difficult because our juveniles are not quite adults,
but they're doing adult crimes. So we have to be
sensitive to the fact that they are still young people,
but we have to hold them accountable for the crime
as well. My approach is going to be that we
work again very closely with our community partners, those intervention services,
diversion services that we can do so that our youth

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do not go down a path of continual crime kind
of thing.

Speaker 7 (14:48):
Yeah, you used the word perception earlier when dealing with
crime and safety decided Charlotte, but uptown through the first
day of October crime murders up to hundred percent, fourteen
percent of them are in Charlotte or in uptown Duni
Persic market order.

Speaker 1 (15:03):
So when do you say perception the.

Speaker 7 (15:06):
Public and we seem to think reality.

Speaker 1 (15:09):
So what did you mean by perception.

Speaker 4 (15:13):
I believe the crime numbers and Chief Jettings can verify
this with me. I think overall our violent crime is
down across the city. However, we do have pockets where
we're seeing increase crime and that perception of safety.

Speaker 3 (15:25):
In our community.

Speaker 4 (15:26):
You know, I have family that live here, I have
my church family that's here. When those individuals go out
in the street, I want them to feel safe. I
want them to feel that they can walk their dogs,
they can go to the mall, they can do the
things that make this city great.

Speaker 3 (15:38):
But there is that perception that maybe it's not so
safe to do that.

Speaker 4 (15:42):
So we want to make sure that we work to
reduce that, to make people feel very safe, that they
know that this community is committed to making sure that
they can do those things.

Speaker 3 (15:50):
That is part of what makes Charlotte so great.

Speaker 1 (15:55):
So that is the press conference part of a stell.
Patterson said, you heard a couple of my questions. They're
asking specifically about you use the word perception and also
why do you say perception when the reality is murder
is up two hundred percent in Uptown and fourteen percent
of your murders take place in Uptown and then you

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heard me about their retention, and then you know, how
are you going to get officers? And then you heard
her talk about youth crime and fresh priorities and all
that good stuff. So Estella Patterson, she'll take office in
the I believe the second day of January is when
she'll take office as the new CMPD police chief in
the first female to do so. All right, when we

(16:36):
come back, Chela City councilman Edwin Peacock joins us to
talk about tomorrow's election day. Welcome back to Breaking with
Brett Jensen. All Right, So today is the pre election day,

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election day eve as it, and we're going to have
a lot of different people running for office today, whether
it's in Huntersville or across the city of Charlotte. And
we're starting off today with current city council member Edwin Peacock,
who is running for at large. And so, first of all,
I appreciate you joining us today. Second of all, how

(17:20):
are you feeling with less than twenty four hours to go? Brett?

Speaker 6 (17:25):
Thanks for having me. I feel like the student before
the exam and I was accused, studied really hard to
do well in high school. Have a lot of extra
help and I've studied every note, I've stayed up late,
I've done all the extra credit, and now we're heading
into the final exam and we've done everything possible to
be ready, and I believe we've really built a lot

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of momentum.

Speaker 1 (17:48):
Speak with Edward Peacock. So let me ask you this, though,
how is running how different? I should say, how different
is it running for at large as opposed to one district?

Speaker 6 (18:00):
I think mentally as a candidate, you can feel overwhelmed
at times, but then when you really get down to it,
what you do on a day to day basis doesn't
fundamentally change. I've always thought, since I began my journey
in public service eighteen years ago, that I wanted to
represent all four corners of Charlotte. Listen to every story

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that came at me, whether it's in West Charlotte, whether
it's in Coolwood, whether it's in Steel Creek. I just
felt like, Hey, you have to put it out there
and you have to be in all of those areas.
And we've done just that.

Speaker 1 (18:35):
The Short Observer, which does not have a history of
endorsing Republicans, endorsed you over Smudgie Mitchell for the final
at large spot. Did that mean anything to you and
what do you take from that?

Speaker 6 (18:51):
I meaned a lot to me. I think they view
me as a constructive conservative who is someone that would
help balance out city council that will clearly be majority Democrat.
They also recognize that I've come with real experience and
bring a thoughtful approach. They've also this is they've endorsed

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me in all of my campaigns, and so I take
that endorsement seriously and this is the kind of momentum
you need to win.

Speaker 1 (19:21):
What's it been like being on the city Council for
the last I guess five months or whatever it is
since you've been appointed six months since you were appointed
to the City Council to take the spot vacated by Tarkacari.
So what's it been like for you?

Speaker 6 (19:36):
It has been a series of roller coasters that I've
been on with this board. At times I've felt like
they've been paranoid, schizophrenic. We have very low trust as
a board, either with each other and or with leadership
in city Hall. And these are the things you want

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to see mellow out, you want to see improve. I've
tried to be someone's been a bridge builder, but I've
stepped into in many regards a family feud, and I
hope to see that change in twenty five and twenty
seven and hope to continue to serve.

Speaker 1 (20:15):
Speak with edwind Peacock, who currently serves on Charlis City Council,
but he is running for at large. So in terms
of the Charlotte City Council and the City of Charlotte
going forward, you know, I saw you early this morning
where the the you know, the introduction of Estella Patterson
as the new CMPD police chief. So that part is
out of the way. What are some of the biggest

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challenges facing the City of Charlotte over the next two
to three years.

Speaker 6 (20:42):
I think it starts with a refocus on public safety
being the number one priority. When you look on the
City of Charlotte's website, we talk about our strategic priorities
and public safety is number three and that's not the
way that it's traditionally been. Got to return to that, Brett,

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you and I both know that CMPD can't arrest their
way out of this. They've done an excellent job in
many cases addressing some of the crime across the area,
but we've got holes in our prosecutorial system, and definitely
in the magistrate and in the judge level. And these
are things that will take time to work with the
county and with the state. But that's what we need

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to do, is come together and rally around that to
fix that problem. Otherwise there's no way Stella can achieve
being the safest large city in the US.

Speaker 1 (21:33):
Well, you know, since Arina Zruska's murder on the light
rail on August twenty second, at all the rallies, at
all the press conferences and everything else, there's Edwin Peacock
front and center, like you really took this to heart.
Why so?

Speaker 6 (21:49):
I tell you, eighteen years ago I didn't realize how
much and how serious to take public safety. But the
Ernzuska murder and then the subsequent things that I've learned
about how many areas of our city have really slipped
and gone backwards, starting with uptown to corridors, up and
down the light rail. I've done five police ride alongs.

(22:10):
I've done one Charlotte Fire police ride or fire ride along.
I just know, Brett, how serious of a job it
is that our men and women in law enforcement do
every single day, and what they put on the line.
I feel like my dedication needs to match theirs, if
not exceed it, and I want my other colleagues to
feel that same type of urgency because we are not
moving forward, We're moving backwards as it relates to our

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public safety initiatives. And I really hope that Stella Patterson
comes in and is a real boost and morale for
our CMPD and we can see a real change here
in the next next few months.

Speaker 1 (22:44):
So finally here with the Edwin Peacock who is running
for Charlotte City Council at Large, and the voting is
the voting day is tomorrow. We've had a higher than
normal early voting, but we don't know if that just
means people that normally vote on election day have voted early. Nonetheless, Edwin,
is there anything that you'd like to say to all
the listeners and all the voters right now?

Speaker 6 (23:07):
I would just say that this is not a race
about party labels. It's definitely about leadership. I believe that
I bring the experience and clearly the maturity to do
this job and do it well. I very much need
my unaffiliateds and my Democrats to come across the aisle
and to vote and support of me in this race.

Speaker 1 (23:26):
Well, Edwin Pickcock. I know that I'll be in touch
with you tomorrow night. So again, thank you so much
for joining us. I really do appreciate it.

Speaker 6 (23:34):
Thank you, Brett.

Speaker 1 (23:34):
Have a great day you as well, sir. Thank you
all right. So with that being said, you know, there's
a lot going on with the whole situation concerning the
Chatte City Council. The fact that there are two Republicans
right now. Used to be Tark and ed Driggs. Now
it's Eddriggs and Edwin Peacock. And you know, part of

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the agreement, it was like it was a gentleman's agreement,
as they liked to say, not a contract, not a hand,
you know, just like a sort of like a wink
and a nodge like Okay. Part of the agreements of
being appointed is that you will not run for reelection
in the seat that you were appointed too, because they
believe that it might give you an unfair advantage running
as the incumbent of a particular district. So he's doing

(24:19):
what dimple Ashmera did. Dimple Ashmera was appointed to a
district and was going to run for reelection in that district.
Then all hell and fury, furry fury came down upon
her and then she decided to run for at large.
It was almost like a loophole, but it was a legitimate,
it was smart, and she has been re elected ever since.

(24:42):
So Edwin Peacock is like, I will not run for
the same district. It's the district that Christopher Kari is
running for, and he's now running at large and the
Shot Observer. For the Shot Observer to endorse him, that's
a big deal. Not that the Shot Observer is a
big deal, the fact that they actual endorse the Republican
that's kind of a big deal. And they also endorsed

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Christop McCary, which is for what it's worth. By the way,
Christophercary will be joining us at five point thirty this afternoon.
But like I said, I've got a ton of candidates
that will be joining us throughout the day and also
coming up in about fifteen minutes from now. Sheriff Gary
McFadden he's now cooperating with ICE. They've reached an agreement
and so we're going to have the sheriff on to

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break down how this cooperation came about and what is
actually taking place. So all that's coming up next. My
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Speaker 1 (33:09):
Welcome back to the Bread Winnable Show. Bret Jenson here
is sitting in for Winnable as we go up until
six o'clock on this pre election day extravaganza. So I
want to pull up some Marcus Jones audio that I
was able to get earlier today. Again, one thing before
we do that, I want to thank Edwin Peacock, the
current Charlotte City Council member who's running for Charlotte City

(33:31):
Council at Large, for joining us. And like I said,
I've got a lot of candidates coming on the rest
of the day. All right, But so you heard about
you know from Estella Patterson, Estella or Stella. I've seen
it both ways. The new CMPD police chief, well, the
president in charge of hiring her was the city manager,
Marcus Jones. And afterwards I was the only report. I

(33:53):
only got him for like ninety seconds, but it was
still more than anyone else got him. And because no
one else got him, and so I was able to
ask him a quick couple quick questions about the hiring
process of Stella Patterson. Was this one any more different
or any more challenging than the other times? Wow, that's
a great question.

Speaker 2 (34:14):
I would say yes, just because of what's happening across
the country in terms of law enforcement crime. But what
was different about this one is our recruiters say it
that all the recruitments that he's ever done, this was
the best group of applicants that he's ever seen. I

(34:35):
think a great deal it has to do with Johnny.
Johnny stayed in the communities and went across the country,
kept saying this is such a great place to work.
But also I think there's something special about Charlotte and
something special about this police department that attracted a lot
of people to the pool.

Speaker 1 (34:52):
What's special about Stella?

Speaker 2 (34:54):
You know, sometimes when someone's close by us, we don't
see how really great they are. But she compared to
some of the best chiefs in the country, she just
kept coming back and back as being just the best.
So the right person for the right time, and we're
really happy to have her.

Speaker 1 (35:12):
Was how early in the process did you know it
was going to be her? Oh that's great.

Speaker 2 (35:17):
No, when you start off with thirty highly qualified candidates,
when you drill it down to twelve and you see
big cities and you see big personalities, you don't know.
But as we started to dwindle it down and just
her plan, her perspective, the way she knew this community,

(35:39):
it became, as I think Johnny said earlier, almost seamless.

Speaker 1 (35:45):
So again that is Charlotte City Manager Marcus Jones, and
was able to, like I said, you know, grab him
briefly for just a couple of quick questions about the hiring.
So I will say this about still a potter, clearly qualified,
clearly you know, she was a deputy chief. She worked

(36:08):
her way up twenty five years at CMPD, started as
a patrol officer and just kept working her way up
and working her way up, went to UNC Charlotte. I
believe she even like went to the FBI, Academy, also
served in the military in the Army reserves, like did
a tour in Kosovo, and I think Iraq, I think

(36:29):
that's the place that she went to as well. So clearly,
you know she has the qualifications, but will she be
liked Because Johnny Jennings his entire from the moment he
basically took the oath, from the moment he kneeled with

(36:49):
the protesters, he had lost he had lost the MPD,
he had lost him, he lost the officers. And then
there were a lot of other things that went that
happened along the way punishment because of memes, and there
was a scandal that I broke about the light detector
tests that they were being used on new recruits and

(37:14):
get you know, lowering the standards to become a new recruit. Like,
there were a lot of things going on, and then
it you know, culminated with the secret payout done by
the Charlotte City Council because Johnny Jennings threatened and again
that word is very key, threatened a lawsuit, didn't file one,

(37:34):
threatened a lawsuit against because of Tark Pacari. Well that's
when the Charlotte City Council said, okay, here's three hundred
and five thousand dollars ozh and we'll give you an
extra nine thousand dollars annually in your retirement fund. It's
a lot. So she comes in like and Johnny Jennings

(37:56):
had lost, like I said, had completely lost the Fopal
Order Police two thousand numbers. Estella comes in. They the FOP.
You know, Daniel Refford was on my show last week,
the president of the Sewan FOP Fraternal Order Police, which
is like the local police union. We're all in favor

(38:18):
of Stilla getting the job. They were happy. They spoke
to the state FOP, they spoke to other people said hey,
you know, what is she like like even though she
had been here for twenty five years, but she was
up in Raleigh for three and a half years as
the police chief up there to change her. When she
was hired, her job was to hire and get new officers,

(38:42):
retain the officers they have, and build morale because morale
was nearly at an all time low because of the disaster.
Maybe one of the most disastrous female police chiefs in
the history of female police chiefs nationwide, who famously said, yeah,
lives are more important than your during all the BMLM riots. Yeah,

(39:03):
your stores, good luck that because we're not protecting your stores.
We don't care. Okay. So but she came in and
by all accounts, was very successful in boosting morale and
getting rid of the deficit of officers and retaining the officers.
So that's why I can tell you the FOP is happy.

(39:25):
So we'll see what she does. We'll see what her
policy is. We'll see what happens over the first five
to six months. If she comes in like it, starts
laying down the hammer, we'll see, we'll see. Or is
she going to, you know, like Johnny Jennings did, well,
I'm not going to implement policy without speaking to like
the NAACP first, okay, Okay, that should be your priority.

(39:47):
Safety should be your priority. So we'll see. We'll see
what she does, all right. When we come back. Mccaburg
County Sheriff Gary McFadden talks to me about what's going
on with his new cooperation with ICE. This is a
real thing. We'll talk about that when we return. Right now, actually,
I should say, because I'm not throwing at anyone, we'll
speak to him when we come back. My name is
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Speaker 21 (40:36):
Good Afternoon, Night, manna Ericson in the WBT News Center.
Charlotte's new police chief formally introduced today.

Speaker 4 (40:42):
It is with great excitement, immense gratitude, and deep humility
that I stand before you today to accept the honor
of serving as the next Chief of Police.

Speaker 21 (40:53):
Estella Patterson is a fourth consecutive blacktop cop for the
city and the first woman to have the job.

Speaker 4 (40:58):
Every success that I have the law enforcement has foundationally
been rooted in CMPD and the experiences that I had
with this department. Today and always, I give honor onto
the Lord Jesus Christ, who is the head of my life,
and I thank him for ordering my steps back to
the Queen City.

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Patterson replaces Chief Johnny Jennings, who retires at the end
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Speaker 1 (42:10):
Welcome back to the Brett Winnable Show. Brett Jensen sitting
in for mister Winnable as we go up until six
o'clock tonight. Seven four or five, seven eleven ten is
the telephone number and also that is the d WBT
text line driven by Liberty Buick gmc. So we are
doing our pre election day extravaganzas I've got a lot
of candidates coming on tonight or coming on the show today,

(42:30):
I should say, but joining us now is Sheriff Gary
mcfadd Mecklambre County Sheriff Gary McFadden. Because something happened last
week that a lot of people did not see coming
and I thought, you know what, let's just go straight
to the source and bring on the sheriff to talk
about it. And Sheriff, first of all, thank you for
joining us. And second of all, the cooperation with Ice.

(42:52):
You guys put out a big press release talking about
the cooperation with Ice. So in a reader's die just version,
can you explain sort of what you were doing and
now what you are doing what we were doing.

Speaker 18 (43:08):
Can y'all hear me clearer.

Speaker 1 (43:10):
Loud clear, sir?

Speaker 18 (43:11):
So what what we weren't doing is talking to each
other and fighting in the media saying you did this
and you did that. And of course you know, the
word cooperation and Sheriff macfadden is always in somebody's sentence
or comment or criticism. So in Texas a couple of
weeks ago, I was with the Major County Sheriffs of America,

(43:32):
which I am a board member of, and everybody was
complaining about what they were getting weren't not getting from Ice,
and what we weren't doing, and what was said and
the promises that were made, they're not coming through. So
when they looked at me, I said, this is the
problem that we've all had, but now it's in your corner.
And while in Texas, if you remember, there was a

(43:53):
shooting at a ICE I guess a rest center where
people were shot and killed. Right after that, people don't
understand what else happened that in another city, Ice was
making an arrest and accidentally shot a marshal. And So,
sitting back looking at all of this and thinking about

(44:16):
it and what we call our a duck Pond incident
where Ice was fighting somebody in the duck pond, I
decided to write Ice a letter and said, look, can
we stop all the rhetoric in the media. Can we
just be adults and come to the table. And I
asked them, please bring decision makers to the table. Not lawmakers,

(44:37):
decision makers, but Ice. So I sent them this letter
earlier back in May with very little response. When I
said it to them on October one, they responded, they
said that we will come and listen and talk to you.
When they came, I gave them guidelines, policies, and procedures

(44:58):
that will make it more so for them to do
their work in and around the Meccinburg County court House.
After that meeting, everybody agreed. I gave them the protocols,
I give them phone numbers of how this should be operated.
And the very first incident with flawless inside the court house. Now,

(45:18):
when people said that you are doing enforcement, I am not.
The Mecklenburg County Sheriff's Office is not doing enforcement with ICE.
We are simply cooperating with the federal agency who has
jurisdiction in dealing with the people that they need to
deal with under their guideline and their procedures and whatever

(45:40):
laws they're doing. We just wanted to be safe and
no one gets hurt. We had the meeting and we've
gotten one hundred percent cooperation, one hundred percent understanding, and
we're moving forward.

Speaker 1 (45:53):
Speak with Mecklmberg County Sheriff Garay McFadden, So sheriff, now
explain how the cooperation is working, Like what is what
are you doing now or how are you you and
ICE working together? What are some of the procedures.

Speaker 18 (46:07):
Well, they're not going to be operating in and around
the courthouse. With the mass they're not going to be
operating in. We hopefully as they as we go forward,
operating in and and around the courthouse, you know, secretly
waiting for somebody to come out of court. If they
have someone they are looking for inside the courtroom, they
have a protocol and procedures phone numbers to call enter

(46:28):
a secure area into the courthouse because now we know
who they are, go to that court room. When that
person is finished with whatever court precision, they take him
into custody. We then escort them back through the courthouse
back into a secure area, and they leave the courthouse

(46:50):
in in and from a secured area. And when they
come down to the Mecanbury County Detention Center, it's kind
of the same thing. They we call them. They come down,
they park underneath, they pick up the person that they
need to be picked up, and they leave. It's just
an organized, professional process and procedure that creates safety and

(47:16):
humanity all in one.

Speaker 1 (47:19):
Speaking with Mecklimber County Sheriff Gary mcfatten here for a
couple more minutes, Sheriff, real quick, I saw the prince
release the other day, or I guess maybe it was
yesterday last night, I could have my days wrong of
an inmate death. Well, I don't necessarily need you to
speak about that specific incident. Inmate deaths. You know, I
know that you have a very very large jail. I

(47:39):
understand that detention center. I understand that are how many
of these deaths are preventable?

Speaker 18 (47:45):
Do you think, Well, here's why we can say it
is not preventable. The one the death in the hospital.
We're going to say how many of them are preventable?
Why they have medical care twenty four hours, twenty four
hour facility, with all the modern day medicine and equipment,

(48:07):
people still die. The people that come to Meckenberg County
Detention Center often number one has never had any healthcare.
Number two will be diagnosed with a life threatening illness
that they did not know that they have, and we
simply housing them inside the detention center. And so we

(48:28):
can say this, none of these deaths are at the
hands of our detention officers. It is poverty, poor health
that is the direct cause, including substance abuse. What we
mean by substance abuse illegal drugs fitting all cocaine or

(48:48):
some pills that they what we call suitcase in inside the
tention center, which here, why can't you prevent that? Well,
we try, but if you have mail and a substance
is under a stamp or as we call suitcase in
in your body cavity, do we find everything. These are

(49:12):
the things that we're up against. But the death inside
of the tension center is mainly because of poor health,
poverty that they're not receiving well.

Speaker 1 (49:23):
Sheriff, I know that you and I are going to
talk later this week, but again, I really do appreciate
you coming on today because I know a lot of
people were interested, maybe skeptical, maybe thought that you had
no choice but to cooperate with ICE. But considering how
you're doing this now, I just I wanted you to
come on and be able to explain it to you
from your own words about the situation going on with ICE.

(49:46):
So I really do appreciate you joining us today.

Speaker 18 (49:48):
I thank you. But that's the sad part that we
need to if you want to have some clarity, And
I thank you or you and the station for making
these things clear because oftentimes it's twisted, or as we
call word salad, they twist the word you know, enforcement, No,
it's cooperation. The only thing I ever asked is for collaboration, cooperation, communication.

(50:09):
And I will say this after that meeting, I received
two additional phone calls that evening. I've had two other
meetings with Ice which have been very productive since that time.
It's just that we're putting aside all of the restrick,
all the political agenda and all of the word salad words,

(50:30):
and said can't we work together? And when we gave
them the protocol, we gave them the guidelines, they said, well,
let's see if how're that gonna work? And it worked superbly.
And all were trying to do is create a safer
environment for them to do their work, a safer environment
for the cities of the mccanburn County in and around

(50:50):
the courthouse, and a safer environment for my deputies. And
so far that has worked.

Speaker 1 (50:56):
Sref McFadden, seriously, thank you for your time today. I
greatly appreciate it. Thank you, sir. All right, that is
Sheriff Garry McFadden. I know a lot of people were like,
you know what, it's Ice. Is he cooperating? Is he
really cooperating? Is he not? Because you know, I mean,
that was a big thing going back to his election
in twenty eighteen, and you know what he's I spoke

(51:19):
to him earlier this afternoon and he said, Brett, things
could not be going more smoothly, and it's exactly how
things should be going. And so there you go, all right.
When we come back, we'll get into a couple of
other things coming up later on Dan Boone, who is
running for Huntersville Town Commission, and also wbtv's David Hodges
will be in studio with me to talk about that

(51:41):
crazy mess going on up once again up in Concord
and the mayoral election. So we'll get into all that
when we returned. Welcome back to the Bretnible Show. Brett
Jensen here with you going up until six o'clock because

(52:02):
I do not have a show tonight, but we are
doing a pre election extravaganza. So far, we've I've given
you the press conference of the new CMPD Police Chief,
Estella Patterson. I believe she takes over January. Second, we
had Charlotte City Councilman Edwin Peacock on who is running
for at large and it's going to be very very

(52:23):
interesting to see what happens in his race. And the
fourth person between him and Smudgie Mitchell. The Sharlot observer
came out and just Land based it basically Smudgie Mitchell
and said he never shows up. And you know, look
and Edwin Peacock takes this extremely serious. He is there

(52:43):
all the time. He was appointed to the to the
council after Tark McCory left and now he's running for
at large. And we're also later on we also just
had excuse me, just finished with mclamer County Sheriff Gary
McFadden to talk about the cooperation that he and Ice
are now doing in terms of handing people over from

(53:03):
the courthouse as opposed to like them having to wait
outside the jail when these people are released and then
trying to apprehend them on the sidewalks or on the streets.
Coming up shortly, we're going to have Dan Boone in
about ten minutes from now. Dan Boone used to be
on the Huntersville Town Commission. Two years ago Democrats swept.

(53:25):
They swipped the mayor and every single seat on town Commission.
Now they're accused of holding secret meetings up there and
didn't want to hand over all the text messages because
in theory or you know I should not in theory,
but in in allegations against the current town commission up there,

(53:45):
they're in a text threat and if you have a
certain amount, that's called a quorum, which is considered to
be a public meeting or a meeting. And guess what,
you cannot have meetings without notification to the public. That's
why when a town council, city council, or a town
commission goes into private session, they start and said, we

(54:06):
are now going into private session, or if there's going
to be a special meeting, they have to send out
public notice and emails to the media. Well, if you're
just having secret text threads with each other, that's considered
a meeting and not disclosing that is a violation of
the state law. And not only that, but there was

(54:27):
an argument of whether or not they were ever going
to actually turn a give over their text messages through
the Freedom of Information Act. Let me give candidates actually
miss this quite often. Okay, let me explain something to you.
And I've had to tell candidates this. I've had to
tell actual elected officials this when you are elected, and

(54:51):
I'm just going to say, Charlotte City Council, Okay, you
might be able to. You might have like a Charlotte
City phone and your own private cell phone, or your
school board you might have your school board phone and
then your private phone. Well. As a reporter, I'm allowed

(55:15):
to have access because you are a government official, to
your personal cell phone, your private cell phone I mean
your school board cell phone or your public cell phone
public paid for a cell phone. Your personal emails, your
work emails, your private messages on social media, are your DMS.

(55:37):
I'm allowed access to everything that's yours so long as
it deals with government business. So if I'm an elected official,
I'm a city council member, and I'm texting Isaac about
a particular policy, doesn't matter. If Isaac is a member

(55:59):
of the city or not, doesn't matter. But if I'm
texting someone privately, DMS, Facebook Messenger, private emails, and I'm
talking about government business as a reporter, every reporters allowed
access to those private emails, even though it's on your

(56:19):
personal email. Just because it's on your personal doesn't matter.
The moment you start talking government business or official business,
even if you're just discussing it with someone else, doesn't matter.
I immediately have access to that legally. Now City Charlotte
is notorious for taking years to turn that over. And
I'm not even joking when I say years. That's why

(56:40):
there's been many lawsuits filed against the City Charlotte. And
guess what by the media and the city Shaws lost
every single lawsuit. But they're like SUS sus same thing,
CMS school board suis. Guess what the BBTV did a
couple different times work out for you? Oh, that's right.

(57:01):
You actually had to pay sixty thousand dollars in legal
fees to WBTV from taxpayer money because you refused to
turn over emails and text messages and documents refused refuse.
I think it was documents specifically. Okay, so we are

(57:21):
allowing access to that. So that's why I always say,
just if you think you can do things Huntersville without
having to turn over your personal cell phones? Yeah, what's
the who's the rock group Winterbow would know this, You've
got another thing coming. The famous group of the song

(57:43):
in the eighties, maybe Judas Priest or something like that.
I think it was Judas Priest. Yep, Winnabow would know that.
I don't. That's not my music. You got another thing
coming if you don't think I have access to that
or any other media outlet. Just because it was your
own personal, private cell phone does not matter at all. Well,
speaking of Huntersville, Dan Boone, who used to be on

(58:05):
the Talent Commission, is running for election and as Democrats
can completely control it up there in Huntersville in a
shocking vote that happened two years ago, will any of
the Republicans be able to get any of their seats
back on the Talent Commission? Last week we spoke to
Frank gorm And or Gammon, excuse me, Frank Gammon, and

(58:28):
we are now going to be speaking with Dan Boone.
Momentarily coming in studio will be David Hodges from WBTV
coming up at about four forty five to talk about
the wildness and craziness going on up in Concord and
that mayoral race that he and I h did reports on.
And then coming up in the five o'clock hour, Terry

(58:49):
Donovan who's running for the mayor here in Charlotte on
the Republican side, Lisa Kline who's running for reelection in
school board, and Christa McCary. Welcome back to Breaking with
Bred Jensen. We go up until six o'clock. As I said,

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we're doing pre election day extravaganza. We've already had Edwin
Peacock on who's running for Charlotta City Council at large,
and now we bring in Dan Boone who's running for
the town Commission up in Huntersville. And first of all, Dan,
I appreciate you joining us today. And second of all,
you know when when you decided to run for reelection,

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how much of that was due to the shock that
or what? Maybe it wasn't a shock, but was it
due to a shock that the Democrats swept in Huntersville
two years ago?

Speaker 18 (59:44):
Ah?

Speaker 22 (59:44):
Yeah, they ran a pretty good campaign two years ago
in Huntersville. They came up here and swept all six
seats in the mayor's position. They did a really good
job getting the voter turnout. And I decided about two
days after.

Speaker 6 (59:59):
That that.

Speaker 22 (01:00:01):
I'm going to dedicate the next two years of getting
myself ready to run for office and seek recular election
to the town of Huntersville.

Speaker 1 (01:00:12):
How is how has the campaign been?

Speaker 15 (01:00:14):
Like?

Speaker 1 (01:00:14):
How are you feeling with less than twenty four hours
to go?

Speaker 22 (01:00:18):
Well, I'm probably getting sleep tonight. But the early election
went very well. We had about three or four really
rainy days, but the voters really came out on Friday
and Saturday. Had a forty minute wait sometimes at the
north Neck Library, but we had a lot of people
out voting, a lot of good conversation. I'm feeling very

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confident that the people that I'm running with, the four
people Frank Gammon, Heather Smallwood, and Jammie Whiteman and myself,
I think that we will have a very great conservative
voice for the town of Huntersville.

Speaker 1 (01:00:54):
What's been the last two years, Like in Huntersville.

Speaker 22 (01:00:58):
It's it's been a lot of where are they going
with this? There's not a whole lot of information out there,
a lot of not a whole lot of transparency, and
that's one of the things that four of us are
going to try to bring to the town. Well, we
would like to make sure that everybody's voice is heard,
not only the Democratics, but everyone in the town of Huntersville.

Speaker 1 (01:01:22):
You know, I do know. Look, they always say politics
makes for strange bedfellows, and I know the former mayor
up there in Huntersville, John Enderella, a staunch Republican, is
dead set against the one since sales tax as are
people like Braxton Winston and Jennifer Roberts, the form mayor
of Charlotte, very hardcore, extremely liberal Democrats. But yet they

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are both against or all three of them are against
the ones in sales tax. What's your stance on this?

Speaker 22 (01:01:49):
A stance on a one sales tax as it's presented? Now,
can I get my hands around it? First of all,
there's a committee, I believe, with sixty four people that
will make all the decisions of where the money will
be spent in Huntersville. So this committee that we'll have
one person representing us, and they have the if we

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send a person down there, let's say Brett Jensen, they
said we don't like Brett Jensen, to send us somebody else.
They have that authority and it's written into legislation that
if they don't like that person, we've got to pick
somebody else. And it's not for new roads or it's
the money is just for new roads. It's it can't

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go onto any of our SI on of our step
projects in the roads that we've got presently underway. This
money is needs to be really looked at. I wish
that they would give the money directly to the towns
and let us make those decisions, not somebody in Charlotte.

Speaker 1 (01:02:52):
Speak with Dan Boone, who's running for town commission in Huntersville.
Election day is tomorrow. What's the biggest or that give
me two big things facing the town of Huntersville over
the next two to three years.

Speaker 22 (01:03:05):
I think the biggest thing is we've got to have
make sure that we have responsible growth, that we manage
the growth of the town by the awarnanses that we
have already on our books. And the second and really
most important transparency to the people of Huntersville. The freedom
of information requests that have been delayed. Over delays and

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people not wanting to hand over the information, that's something
that has to be really looked into.

Speaker 1 (01:03:34):
So in the last you've got about a minute or
so minute and a half, is there anything that you'd
like to say to the voters up into the Huntersville
area here in the last ninety seconds or so.

Speaker 22 (01:03:44):
Yeah, I would like to first of all, thanks those
folks who've voted early, and if you haven't voted, please
come out tomorrow six thirty the polls open, they close
seven point thirty. I'm running with four other people, Dan Boon,
which is me Frank Gammon, head or Smallwood and Jamie Wyman,
and we want to be sure that the four of

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us are going to be transparency, responsible growth, smart spending
in public safety and what I mean by public safety
is SROs in every school in Huntersville. And Brett, I
appreciate you having this kind of conversations on your show
and thank you for letting me participate.

Speaker 1 (01:04:26):
Yes, sir, that is Dan Boone who is running for
town council up there in Huntersville. And again I appreciate
you taking the time to join us today.

Speaker 22 (01:04:35):
Okay, Brett, have a great day.

Speaker 1 (01:04:36):
Thank you you too, sir. All Right, so here's the thing. Huntersville.
It's generally it was always like a little red. I mean,
it used to be big red, right like the gum
big red, and then it started getting more and more purple,
but it was still considered conservative. And then something happened

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two years ago and Democrats swept and a lot of
the political insiders blame it on white suburban moms that
they all basically voted blue. You even I remember even
a couple of years ago, you had a couple of
independents unaffiliated that that were elected to the town Commission. Right, Like,

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that's how you had two unaffiliateds and I believe four
Republicans and a Republican mayor. Democrats swept two years ago
and they took the mayor's spot, although I'm not sure
had it. Dan Boone ran from mayor two years ago,
and Dan Boone probably would have won had Derek Parti

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not gotten into the race and just threw a monkey
wrench into the middle of everything. Because up there they
don't have primaries. So in theory, you could have sixteen
Republicans and one Democrat went run. Right, they don't have
p So what does that mean. Well, everyone's on the ballot,
So that means that the Democrat will gain all the
Democrat votes, some of the unaffiliated votes, and then all

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the Republicans will split all the other votes. Well that's
not so this year. You've got one v one and
you've got all these people running for town council in Huntersville,
and it's going to be very very interesting to see
what happens with all that. And because except two years
ago Huntersville Democrats swept, wasn't just the mayor thing where

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you had two Republicans and one Democrat. They swept the
town Commission. Town Commission swept them, so it's it's going
to be very very interesting to see what happens there
tomorrow night. All right, So coming up next, my guy
David Hodges from WBTV. He's going to be joining me
in studio to talk about and we're going to talk

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about the two things that he and I have done
reports on, and that's some of the wildness going on
up there in Concord in the may race, as well
as we'll get into some cat stuff and some voter
turnout and stuff like that as well. So David Hodges, WBTV,
coming up next. Welcome back to the Bret Winnerboe Show.

(01:07:18):
Brett Jensen here with you as we go up until
six o'clock. Coming up next hour, Terry Donovan who's running
for Charlotte Mayer on the Republican side, Lisa Klein running
for reelection to school board, and Christop McCary joins me
at five point thirty. We also already had Edwin Peacock,
Gary McFadden the sheriff, and Dan Boone who's running for
election up there in Huntersville. Okay. So, but joining me

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now in studio is David Hodges, WBTV reporter extraordinaire.

Speaker 23 (01:07:46):
You fit me into that busy schedule with all those
important people.

Speaker 1 (01:07:48):
I'm honored. You know, hey, I consider you important. Hodges.
So I think it was a week ago, maybe you know,
a week ago early last week, when I started talking
about the the mayor's situation going up up in Hunters
excuse me, concord with sixty thousand dollars in IRS tax
lines and all these charges of you know, or accusations

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of assault and everything else. And you also did a
big piece on it on Friday, if I'm not missing.

Speaker 23 (01:08:17):
Yeah, we got the opportunity to interview mayoral candidate Lorie
Clay about that. We just focused specifically on the financial situation.
I mean, I investigate all kinds of people, and if
I went all the way back fifteen twenty years into
all of their histories, I've been covering a lot of stuff.
So I just focused specifically on these IRS taxlings because
you know the voters I talked to that stuff matters.

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I mean, if you're about to run, if you're running
to try and help a city set its budget, try
and get money from the General Assembly, you know your
history with finances, especially as a small business owner, really matters.
So it was something between like twenty twelve and like
twenty seventeen. All these different annual years of taxing just
kept getting filed. So in total there were three leans filed,

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one in twenty fifteen, two and twenty nineteen against Lori Clay,
and I had the opportunity to interview her about that.

Speaker 1 (01:09:07):
She did pay those off at.

Speaker 23 (01:09:09):
The end of twenty twenty two. She told me she
thinks it's a benefit. It will show voters that you
know that she's financially responsible, that she took care of
her business, and also that people can relate to somebody
who has a hard time painter taxes.

Speaker 1 (01:09:22):
Okay, okay, let's stop right there. Let's stop right there. Yeah,
I figured you would. Okay, So financially responsible, I don't
view that to be financially responsible when you don't pay
your taxes for many years, you've got liens now being
taken out against you by the federal government. Financially responsible

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is trying to work something out on a payment plan,
whatever the case may be with the irs, just ignoring
the situation for many years, hoping or seemingly hoping that
it goes away. I don't view that to be fun
actually responsible.

Speaker 23 (01:10:00):
Yeah, and she she had some interesting answers, is kind
of what I'll call them as I As I questioned
her about this. At first, she claimed that she did
pay them on time. I pointed out that you know
a lot of US SO taxes and never get federal
tax lines, you know. She also said these were her
personal taxes. And my wife is a essentially a small
business owner as like a therapist, so she has to

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know at the beginning of the year how much do
I need to set aside in order to pay for taxes.
She has never had a fad. My wife, I could
say on the record, has never had a federal tax.

Speaker 1 (01:10:31):
Line against hers.

Speaker 20 (01:10:33):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:10:33):
Yeah, good job, honey. You know.

Speaker 23 (01:10:36):
And sure, as you get towards the end of the year,
you have to do some math and make sure things
things could get tight and whatnot. But typically you got
a pretty good idea of how much money you're going
to earn, and then if you're earning more, the people
you have do in your books can tell you, hey,
you should set some more money aside. So it's not
as complicated as I think it was made to sound
in this interview. I think what really kind of honed

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in for us on this story and made it more
interesting was after I asked for the interview, the former
president of the Caberis County Arts Council came out and
on a Facebook post said that for years the candidate
Lori Clay, had been making pledges of one thousand dollars
but had not paid up on those pledges. It's an
organization that is a completely nonpartisan. She's no longer affiliated

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with it. And you know, it's one thing if you're
unable to afford your taxes. It's another thing if you're
pledging money and then not donating it. I asked her
specifically about that. She was unable to say definitively. When
I asked her true or false? Did you make these
pledges to not pay? She said that the claim was unsubstantiated,
that since she didn't know the years, she couldn't say

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whether or not she did nodinate. She ended up sending
me some records that showed sometimes she donated, sometimes she didn't.
It just kind of became a bit of a mess.
But all that's on our website for voters to make
up their mind who still haven't voted yet.

Speaker 1 (01:11:51):
In Concord that reminds me of you talking about the pledging.
That reminds me of the infamous Amber Heard Johnny Depp
trial and they say, but you you promised that you
would donate money to this and this and this. Yes,
I pledged, but you didn't donate. Yes I did, I pledged.
Well we no.

Speaker 23 (01:12:10):
Blending and donating two are two pretty different things.

Speaker 1 (01:12:13):
It's two pretty different things.

Speaker 23 (01:12:15):
And I know that that former president of the Arts
Council was worried to speak publicly about this at first,
as we have talked about on this show before. I mean,
Cabar's County politics is intense right now. The war between
the Republican Party there is very intense. And I mean
I've got a story going on tonight about just how
many how many more early votes there are this time

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than the last election with the similar races in twenty
twenty one, there was something like fourteen hundred earlier early votes.
This time it is more than fifty eight hundred, I mean,
four times more, and the vast majority of those are
for this Concord mayor's race. So it's something that the
get out the vote is really really strong.

Speaker 1 (01:12:54):
You know, and you know Meckelmbrook County's percentages are way
way up there over the two previous city elections or
you know, or you know, municipal elections, I should say,
but I don't know how much of that is because
in twenty twenty four, the entire push by the National
Republican Party and Michael Wattley and even locally was Republicans voterally, voterarly,

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voterarly early. And they did. They showed up in drugs
and they all voted early, and election day the vote
numbers were down. Yeah, So I wonder how much of
that will carry over to twenty twenty five, where the
Republicans are now voting early where they never used to,
and how much of that will take away from.

Speaker 23 (01:13:33):
On election and it could we could see on election
day that essentially the vote totals are basically the same
as twenty twenty three for municipal elections, but they are
I mean, it is up.

Speaker 1 (01:13:42):
What is it?

Speaker 23 (01:13:42):
It was like forty and twenty twenty three and now
it's sixty four thousand something like that, so early, I mean,
voting day totals would have to be way down for that,
And I mean, I think everything that's driving people to
the polls on that is the transit reference.

Speaker 1 (01:13:57):
Yeah, the transit referendum, the mayor, the crazy marylor Race
going on up in there, and then because what I
also want to do is like compared to like, okay,
how does this compare? How did Union County compare to
twenty twenty three with early voting and regular voting numbers,
or Gaston County or Lincoln, Like, I just want to
see if it's what it's everywhere or if it's just
Mekenburg and Caberras.

Speaker 23 (01:14:16):
I tried Arondell County, but they said they were too
busy to give me their early Monty numbers from twenty
twenty three. Just gonna go ahead and shout them out
on that really quick. Cabrera's County, well, I don't.

Speaker 1 (01:14:25):
Like hating you all kinds of information there.

Speaker 23 (01:14:27):
Up there and fun one I call, but if you
don't mind giving us the information, we would appreciate it,
you know. Cabrera's County, I think is is really you know,
for Concord for years, I mean you have had two
mayors essentially for a long period of time, and now
that seat is open at the time that you have
a huge split in the Republican party there, and I

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just think it is a war.

Speaker 1 (01:14:49):
I mean someone you know very well. Those two Republican
mayors that served twenty five years essentially they've both endorsed
Steve Morris.

Speaker 23 (01:14:56):
Right, yeah, the former chairman of the Cabrera's County Board Missioners.

Speaker 1 (01:15:00):
Exactly, Yeah, yeah, so yeah, just and I would be
remiss if I didn't mentioned Alice Williams is also running
for ye.

Speaker 23 (01:15:07):
And if you go to the WBTV website, we actually
have a questionnaire that we put out to all those candidates,
asking them about growth, asking them about public safety. So
if you still need to make up your mind and
those are the issues that matter most to you, you know,
go to our website WBTV dot com to search a
Concord mayor's race.

Speaker 1 (01:15:22):
Well, David, it's always a pleasure when you come in here.
It's been way too long. We need to start talking
about magistrates again, so again thanks for Hey.

Speaker 23 (01:15:29):
There might be some movement on that, so bringing.

Speaker 1 (01:15:31):
Back in soon. Exactly. Absolutely. David Hodges, WBTV Reporter extraordinaire.
I've always said if I ever started the news industry,
David would be my first hire. I've always said that
boys said that.

Speaker 23 (01:15:41):
I appreciate that all right, but I have started a
news company like you know.

Speaker 1 (01:15:45):
Likewise, thank you.

Speaker 23 (01:15:47):
You'll hire me to answer the phone, so something your
listeners know the odds of either of those things happening
extremely That's.

Speaker 1 (01:15:52):
Exactly right, seriously, thanks for coming out. I appreciate that,
all right. When we come back, Terry Donovan, the Charlotte
Merrill candidate on the Republic in inside, Lisa Clent running
for reelection and school board, and christopherccary who's running for
election in Charlotte City Council, they'll all be joining me
next hour. I am Brett Jenson sitting for Burtt Winnable,
and you are listening to the Brett Winnable Show.

Speaker 3 (01:16:36):
Hi, Oh, Let's go oh, Let's go oh, Let's go.

Speaker 1 (01:16:45):
Oh's talk eleven ten and ninety nine three WBT. Brett
Jenson here with you, sitting in for Brett Winnable today.
I do not have a show tonight, so I am
sitting in for Winnable from three to six pm. And
we are calling this our I am calling this our
pre election extravaganza. As we've had Edwin Peacock on and

(01:17:06):
we've had Gary mcfadnah on the sheriff we just had.
We also had Dan Boone up in Huntersville running for
Talent Commissioner. David Hodges just stepped in the studio with
us to talk about the stuff going on, the wildness
going on up in Huntersville, excuse me, in Concord in
the mayoral race up there, and coming up momentarily, we're
gonna have Lisa Klein running for le re election to

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school board, as well as christopherccary coming up at the
bottom of the hour. But joining us now is Terry
Donovan who's running for the Charlotte mayrill race and on
the Republican side. And so, first of all, Terry, I
appreciate you joining us. And second of all, I know
from the get go public safety has been and crime
has been your top priority in your top speaking point.

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So in your first one hundred days, if elected, what
specific recommendations or changes would you make to the city
council about crime and safety.

Speaker 24 (01:18:05):
Well, I think it would just be an instantaneous attitude
shift where we are going to acknowledge that we actually
have an issue. Right now, We've got people on city
council who are in denial or either they're just you know,
out there repeating the same speaking points and the same
talking points. It's almost as if they're all reading from

(01:18:25):
the same script. So day one, that's going to change.
We are going to acknowledge that we have an issue
with public safety. We have a murder almost daily in
this city. I'm not even the mayor yet, and I'm
being invited to funerals every week, to vigils every week.
We had a four year old get shot in his

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own home while.

Speaker 18 (01:18:47):
He was sleeping.

Speaker 24 (01:18:48):
We had another two other murders at a Halloween party.
We've got people that don't feel like there's any consequences
for their actions. They feel like they can just go
out into a crowd and start shooting at people and
they're going to be out of jail the next day.
So the very first thing that we need to do
is acknowledge that we have a major crisis in our city.

Speaker 1 (01:19:13):
So if you acknowledge it, but then what do you
do after you acknowledge it, what do you actually do?

Speaker 24 (01:19:19):
Well, the mayor controls the agenda, doesn't she right, So
the mayor also is more of a cheerleader for the
whole town, and the mayor needs to acknowledge that we
have a problem before the whole attitude.

Speaker 1 (01:19:33):
No, I understand that, but but what But what would
you like to do? I mean, like understanding that there's
a problem and setting the agenda. I understand that, but
what would you what would you what would you recommend
actually happen?

Speaker 24 (01:19:46):
First of all, we have to put more emphasis on CMPD.
They are so understaffed right now. We need to make
that a top priority with our budgeting. And we also
mean frankly, right now, I leave we're at a point
where and I know this might not be a popular
opinion personally, I think it just depends on which group

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you're speaking to, but I really believe that they are
so understaffed. We need to get assistance from the Guard here.
We need to at least activate the North Carolina Guard.
Our city is in a crisis. It's almost as if
we have terrorists on our streets running around attacking people
on a daily basis, and nobody is acknowledging it. So

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we immediately need to acknowledge that we need help and
period that right there is my number one focus, and
we've got to get more attention on it. If we
need help from the Guard, you know what. Let's listen
to what Daniel Record has been saying and what Daniel
Record has been screaming the Fraternal Order of Police president.

(01:20:51):
I mean, everybody should go and follow their Facebook page
because he's speaking the truth. And if he says, look,
the CMPD Department, the CMPD Police Department is understaffed. Listen
to him. He's not making it up. They need help.
It's not about anybody wanting, you know, the military to
come into Charlotte and take over. It's not even about that.

(01:21:12):
It's the fact that CMPD is understaffed and they can't
keep up with the demand. They can't keep up with
all the calls right now. The response time for the
calls is just not acceptable. And not to mention, you know,
when you really sit down and speak to the CMPD officers,
which I've done. I mean I spoke to one a
couple of weeks ago and he said, look, I arrested

(01:21:32):
a man and he was out in the same day
and he got arrested again. He arrested the same man,
and I realized the mayor can't come in and make
new laws. I get that, but there needs to be
at least an acknowledgement and an attitude shift in Charlotte.
So I think first thing I would recommend is we've

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got to have help from the Guard. At least let's
get the North Carolina Guard activated. I mean, come on,
the Fraternal Order Police president is calling for it. This
guy's not making it up. We need to listen to him.
And if they say they're understaffed and need help, they
need help.

Speaker 1 (01:22:12):
Speaking with Charlotte Merrill candidate Terry Donovan on the Republican side,
election day is tomorrow. So the one sense sales tax
and the transportation that seems to be driving a lot
of people to the polls, how are you going to
be voting on that, Let's hope.

Speaker 24 (01:22:27):
So I already did vote on it, and I voted no.

Speaker 1 (01:22:30):
So well, I'm curious as to why. You know, the
Republican General Assembly, Trisha Cothholm, Vicky Sawyer, all Republicans, they
were all in favor of what did you vote?

Speaker 24 (01:22:40):
Know, Well, here's why I really voted no, because I
just feel like we've got leadership in place right now
that can't be trusted. They've already proven that they can't
even do the most basic, basic common sense thing, which
is enforce ticket feares on our light rail. If they
can't enforce ticket fears on light rail. Really, people, you're

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going to try to tax us more and you can't
even do the most basic common sense, one on one thing.
Give me a break. I mean, they just want to
tax more, tax more, tax more. I'm all for smart
growth in infrastructure. I know it's much needed. I mean,
look at our population growth. We've got to have it.
But before we do that, let's clean off our city,

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let's make it safe, and then let's read a approach
out of the later time. Maybe you know, six months
down the road or you're down the road, but now
is not the time. It's almost so distasteful that they're
going to put this on the ballot in an off
your election and try to push it through because they
know voter turnout is low. My suggestion is for every

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single person in Mecklenburg County to get out and vote
tomorrow and vote no on that transit tax. We just
watched somebody get stabbed to death and fluddered on our
late rail. No, we're not going to vote for a
transit tax. Get the safe first, and then maybe we'll
talk about it.

Speaker 1 (01:24:05):
Speaking with Terry Donovan, just a couple more minutes here
on the Breake Winnable's show. I am Brod Jensen filling
in for Breake Winnable today. I do not have a
show tonight. And lastly, the UDO, the Uniform Development Ordinance,
was passed back in twenty twenty two, and I had
like a slim six to four margin where it passed,
and since then it's been like really heavily criticized for

(01:24:28):
like talking about gentrification and displacement and increase the affordable
housing issues and all that, and a lot of people
are now very critical of it who were actually in
favor of it before. What changes would you recommend to
reverse some of that, maybe some of the damages done
by the UDO that was passed in twenty twenty two.

Speaker 24 (01:24:46):
Well, if I'm going to answer that very honestly, Brett,
I would like to sit down and speak to some
of my developer contracts that I have and learn a
little more about that before I make too strong of
an opinion. And on that one, I need to learn
a little more about it. Obviously there is a lot
that goes into that. But just as you mentioned, you know,

(01:25:08):
there were people who were in support of it back
in the day and now they're no longer sup for it.
I mean, I would just like to gather more information
before I even give an opinion on that.

Speaker 1 (01:25:18):
So in the last oh, you know, forty five seconds
or sixty seconds, is there anything that you'd like to
say to the voters out there that haven't yet.

Speaker 24 (01:25:26):
Voted, get your can I say it.

Speaker 1 (01:25:31):
You say whatever you need to say.

Speaker 24 (01:25:33):
Get your ass out and vote tomorrow. It's the last day.
It's the absolute last day. I'm still sorry. I'm still
trying to learn what I can and can't say on
the radio. But get out and vote tomorrow. There's absolutely
no reason why if you can't vote, you can't complain.
So either get out and vote and take our city

(01:25:53):
back tomorrow. Hey, and look as far as the transit text,
I voted, No, what I vote?

Speaker 3 (01:25:59):
Yes?

Speaker 24 (01:25:59):
Maybe six months or twelve months from now. It depends
on who's running the show right now. We've got the
wrong people in there, and absolutely tech no, I cannot
get on board with it.

Speaker 1 (01:26:10):
Terry Donovan, Meyril candidate and Seawan. I really appreciate your
time today, Thanks for joining us.

Speaker 24 (01:26:14):
Thank you very much, Brett.

Speaker 1 (01:26:16):
Talk to you, Sam, Yes, ma'am all right when we
come back, we're going to hear from Lisa Klin, Charlotte
school board member running for reelection, and she's currently the
only Republican on the school board. There's a real chance
that you could end up with three Republicans on the
school board, and I got bounce with you. I never
thought I would say that, but we'll talk about that
when we return. My name is Brett Jensen, and you're

(01:26:38):
listening to the Brett Winnable Show.

Speaker 17 (01:26:48):
Put it down.

Speaker 1 (01:26:50):
Welcome back to the Brett Winnable Show. Brett Jensen here
is sitting in for mister Winnable as we go up
until six o'clock. Fed a big, big day, and we're
going to continue that with our pre election extravaganza. So
all the interviews have been live so far, but this
one is not. I was able to catch up with
Lisa Klein. She's running for reelection in this Charlotte school

(01:27:10):
Board or CMS school board. She is the lone Republican,
but there's a chance two other Republicans could get elected
to this particular seat, and it's going to be interesting
to see what happens tomorrow night. But right now, here's
my interview. When I caught up with Lisa Klin earlier
about running for reelection. One day before the election, and
you're running for reelection. You know, you've got the endorsement

(01:27:31):
of the Showottle Observer and some other Democrats like Trent
Merchant that ran that you actually beat last time, a
Democrat who's endorsing you. So with one day to go,
how are you feeling? Well?

Speaker 13 (01:27:42):
Nervous?

Speaker 8 (01:27:44):
The Republicans always show up on election day, so please
Republicans vote tomorrow. And there've been a lot of Dems
out in early voting. Also, there have been a lot
of unaffiliated, so you never know which way they're going
to vote. So like the last time, it wasn't over
till the fat ladies saying, and it's going to be
the same way tomorrow night.

Speaker 1 (01:28:05):
Well, but the fact that the person that you beat
last time, Trent Merchant, a Democrat, endorsed you. The chart Observer,
which generally only endorses Democrats, endorsed you as an incumbent
because you know, you challenged some of some contracts and
CMS and transparency and everything else. Do you feel like
you have a better chance going into this election than

(01:28:26):
maybe three years ago, even though you won three years
ago because you are getting Democrats and Democrat leaning papers
that are on your side.

Speaker 8 (01:28:33):
You're asking somebody's incredibly superstitious that question again, it I
think because people are coming out. I don't know if
they're anti Trump, if they're anti tax, pro tax, transit tax.

Speaker 3 (01:28:50):
It's up in the air.

Speaker 8 (01:28:51):
And you know, looking at the numbers with all the
unaffiliated we have, the second group is a largest voters.
Are they are they unaffiliated? So Republicans need to get out.
They need to come and support our people who are
out here running. We've put in a lot of long

(01:29:12):
hours knocking on doors, phone calls, text messages, flyers. So
I think it's it's going to come down to the
last person voting. At seven thirty tomorrow night.

Speaker 1 (01:29:25):
Speak with Lisa Kline, who's running for District five of
the show at Beckenburg school Board and if look, I
know school boards are non partisan in theory and we
use the term in theory, but like people show their
true colors and stuff when they're on the school board.
If there are no more conservative voices on the school board,

(01:29:46):
because right now you're the last one, and there's some
tight races in District six and also in District one
with Republicans and Democrats. But if there are no conservative
voices on the school board, just like there aren't with
the county commissioners, what does that do for the school board.

Speaker 8 (01:30:00):
I think that we're going to lose diversity of thought.
People talk about diversity equity. You've got to have diverse thought.
You've got to have people who will challenge each other.
Our founding fathers, Jefferson and Adams, if you know me,
I'm a history teacher, they disagreed. But because they've disagreed,

(01:30:23):
they built this country. And we've got to do that
because if you have one party of thinking, you're not
going to grow, and you have to grow. So that
diversity of thought and beliefs is very important to keeping
each other honest. Not that we're not dishonest, we're not,
don't say that, but.

Speaker 3 (01:30:45):
We have to have that.

Speaker 8 (01:30:46):
You have to challenge each other and we need it.
We need that to make Charlotte grow or else we're
going to be stagnant.

Speaker 1 (01:30:55):
The two biggest things facing I'm not going to ask
what's the biggest thing, but the two biggest things facing
CMS right now.

Speaker 8 (01:31:04):
Whether or not we're going to continue on that upward
trajectory of growth and getting children back into CMS schools.
We lost a lot of families and lost a lot
of trust during COVID and parents are not comfortable sending
their children to CMS because they're not being challenged. So

(01:31:24):
getting the children back in because that also cost us
a lot of money, and making sure that we're going
to grow because think about it, we grew, but we
had no place to go but up and doctor Hill's
people did a great job. But we've got to continue
that this year and that's going to be where we

(01:31:44):
go from seeing what's going on in the schools.

Speaker 1 (01:31:48):
Last question here with Lisa Kline, who's running for CMS
school board in District five South Charlotte Matthews. That whole area,
so Providence area as well. All right, so last thing,
is there anything that you want to say to the
voters or is there anything that you want to say
that I didn't ask you about.

Speaker 8 (01:32:03):
Thank you for stopping by and seeing me, for putting
out signs, Get out and vote regardless, have your voice heard.
I've worked three years. I want to continue that work
for the children, the families and the teachers in CMS.
I have a great relationship with the D five families,

(01:32:23):
and I want to continue that work because we have
a lot of work to grow and I want to
be there helping out.

Speaker 1 (01:32:29):
Lisa Kline, I appreciate your time today.

Speaker 8 (01:32:31):
Thank you, Brett.

Speaker 1 (01:32:33):
All Right, Lisa Cline and running for reelection on the
school board. It's again there's a real chance, and I
think a real chance Justin Sheeley could win in his district,
District six. You've got two Democrat women who are fighting
each other and threatening lawsuits and everything else against the
one Republican. And you've got up in District one North

(01:32:54):
mech Bill Fountain going against the incumbent Melissa Easily, who
got in national hot water over her comments about Charlie Kirk.
And she's also running against another Democrat up there, Cholotta Hatch,
who was handpicked by the an advisor to the superintendent.
Just so, basically, it will be a card blanche check. Oh,

(01:33:16):
you want this pass pass, pass, pass, pass, without much accountability.
So but there's a chance Justin, Bill Fountain and Lisa
Client could all get elected and the school board will
be beside itself if that actually happens. All Right, when
we come back, christ mccari will be joining us. My

(01:33:37):
name is Brett Jensen, and you're listening to the Brett
Winnable Show. Welcome back to the Brett Winnable Show. Brett
Jensen sitting in for mister Winnable as we go up
until six o'clock on our election eve extravaganza again, Edwin Peacock, Sheriff,

(01:34:01):
Gary McFadden, Dan Boone up in Huntersville, David Hodges to
talk about the situation going on up in Concord in
the mayoral race. Terry Donovan who's running for mayor, and
Charlotte and Lisa Klein who's running for reelection in on
the school board have all joined us today and now
wrapping it up, the last person, last, but not Leasta,
as they always like to say, Krista McCary joining us,

(01:34:22):
who's running for election in her husband's old seat and
currently the seat that is occupied by Edwin Peacock, and
he is running for at large. So christ of all, Christoph,
first of all, thanks for joining us tonight. And second
of all, you've got like twenty four hours to grow,
less than twenty four hours to go. How are you
feeling going into tomorrow?

Speaker 25 (01:34:42):
Yes, well, I'm certainly ready for this to come to
a close and hoping for a big win tomorrow. You know,
I'm going in confident, but certainly not copy. You know,
looking at the numbers, the Democrats are coming out in force,
and you know tomorrow is our day, It's the Republican's
day to vote. I'm hoping that we are going to

(01:35:05):
show them that we are going and we are ready
to take back our city.

Speaker 1 (01:35:09):
Oh, I was going to ask you about that. You know,
in terms of the people voting early on, you know,
it is basically almost been two to one, almost exactly
in terms of Democrat turnout compared to Republican turnout across
the whole county. So how are you feeling about going intomorrow? Like,
are you optimistic?

Speaker 25 (01:35:27):
You know, I am? I am. We've looked just today,
you know, just you know, a few hours ago, maybe
an hour ago, we had to yet another news article
drop about the transparency issues in our city government. I
think people are sick of it. And if Kimberley Owens

(01:35:48):
wins this seat, we are falling further into that hole
of lacking transparency and accountability and we can't afford that.
We can't afford it us taxpayers, and we can't afford
it for our city.

Speaker 1 (01:36:01):
Speaking with Christoph Baccari, who's running for Charlotte City Council
District six, I'm curious when you are out at the
polls and you're talking to people and you introduce yourself,
when maybe they're Democrat, maybe the Republican, or maybe they're unaffiliated,
what do you say to them?

Speaker 25 (01:36:17):
I mean, I tell them we can't lose balance on
our council. Is it is vitally important? You know, we've
seen the transparency issues, We've seen the crime issues in
our city. We've seen our city charge to p r
their way into a safe city when we look it uptown.

(01:36:39):
I've said this over and over again. It is a
direct reflection of our leadership, and it is very clear
they are failing us. And it's time to get more
Republican leadership elected so that we can turn the ship around.

Speaker 1 (01:36:54):
Speak with Christopher Accary, So CHRISTA, over the next two
years or so, what do you think are some of
the biggest challenges facing the City of Charlotte.

Speaker 25 (01:37:03):
Well, once again, the payouts and the transparency issues. I
mean that is huge. Number one. Number two is we
need to make sure that we are paying attention to
our crime problems, not just when it's election season, and
not just when we have national attention putting the pressure on.
My concern is as soon as the national media goes

(01:37:26):
away and this election season wraps up, that these leaders
are continued going to go back to their soft on
crime policies, not making sure that our ordinances are actually
being enforced, and we are going to go back to
square ones. So I think that we need to make
sure that we are holding these leaders accountable and making

(01:37:49):
sure that they're being transparent and focusing on the actual
issues of our city.

Speaker 1 (01:37:54):
Speaking with Christopher carry Well, you alluded to the payout
and transparency. So as Stella patterns in the new scene
police chief, her husband just reached a settlement with the
City of shad over a lawsuit that was filed maybe
like eight years ago or so, and you know, it
came out. You know, we learned about it earlier this
afternoon at the actual press conference where Estella Patterson was introduced.

(01:38:17):
And so in terms of that, you know, what are
your thoughts about that that because I asked, by the way,
I said, how much was he paid? And once again
the city attorney has informed people that this will be
a personnel matter filed under a personnel thing even though
it was a lawsuit, and I was told that we
can't we can't find out how much he was paid.

(01:38:39):
So what are your thoughts about that?

Speaker 25 (01:38:41):
Well, it's frustrating because I know that Stella is well
loved within CMPD and she over the years her name
was said to Tark and I so many times that
we knew that she was the right choice to move
the department forward in a positive way for our city.

(01:39:02):
And I hate that she's coming on with this, you know,
a little bit of a cloud over her head. And
it's not her fault. It's our city leader's fault once
again failing to be transparent and and and and telling
us you know about this after the fact, and so

(01:39:22):
there's frustration. I'm frustrated because I want the best for
her and we need that for our city. So I
don't know how they're going to ultimately resolve that. But
you know, we don't know the details about why about
the case, so I can't speak on that. But once again,

(01:39:44):
I'm disappointed on how our leadership is behaving.

Speaker 1 (01:39:47):
Speaking with Christopher car who's running for District six of
the Charlotte City council. So let's get back a little
bit to you. I actually heard this today at the
at the press conference. Somebody came up to me and
they were talking about your specific race tomorrow, and they
asked me, do you think Christopher Kari will be her

(01:40:08):
own person or is she just going to be a
mouthpiece for her husband? Would you like to address that?

Speaker 25 (01:40:14):
Yes, I would love to address that. Anyone who knows
me knows that you know, Tark and I are two
very different people. But over the years, you know, I
have been a member of the Young Republicans on the board.
I have been very involved in our party. It's frustrating.
I've heard about a piece that went out that you

(01:40:35):
know at haassed me and basically identified me by my husband,
and I looked at it and I said, wow, how
nineteen fifties of them. I am my own person. I
have strong views and I'm going to deliver them in
my way, in Christa's way. But you know, we need
that in the city. We need a counter to the

(01:40:57):
fact that you know we have basically it's ten to two.
We have ten Democrats making decisions for our city, including
the mayor, and it is just not it's not healthy
and it's ultimately going to hurt our city if we
go to eleven Democrats and only one Republican on our council.

(01:41:18):
It scares me to think about it, and I am
fighting with everything I have to make sure that does
not happen.

Speaker 1 (01:41:24):
And finally, speaking with Christopher Kari, is there anything that
you'd like to say to all the listeners and all
the voters who maybe haven't voted yet.

Speaker 25 (01:41:31):
Yes, please, if you come out and vote, we win.
We have got to get serious about taking back this
seat because I can tell you right now the Democrats
are dying to get this seat. And you have to
question why is that when they have a majority of
council members and they have this mayor, why do they

(01:41:52):
want this seat so bad that should scare you? Please
show up to the polls. Take friend, all your friends,
get them out.

Speaker 1 (01:42:03):
I got I do have one more question for you, Ilied.
I'm sorry, I'm sorry, I'm so sorry. I got one
more question real quickly. Your thoughts on the one sent
sales text for it or against it?

Speaker 25 (01:42:14):
So you know it's this is a rough one. It
is something that we know we need as a city.
We can't continue to ignore the traffic problems in the city.
We do not want to become Atlanta, so I think
ultimately long term, we do need this investment. I am.
You know, obviously we are all concerned about how that

(01:42:34):
money will be used number one, and number two, we
want to make sure it's actually going to solve the
congestion issues in our in our city. I mean, as
a mother who drives my children around in carbol, I
understand it well. So you know, I am cautiously optimistic
about about it, and I recognize the need for it.

(01:42:59):
So that's where I stand on that. And I will
tell you one more thing that I think is very important.
There are packs out of New York who are coming
after me to try to win this seat. And not
to concern every voter in Charlotte that we have people
in New York trying to influence our elections here in Charlotte.

(01:43:22):
So we need to get out and we need to vote.

Speaker 1 (01:43:25):
Well, now I'm officially done, So again, Christophercari, thank you
so much for joining us tonight. I really do appreciate this.
Welcome back to breaking with Brett Jensen. I actually am
Bret Jensen sitting for Bert Winnable today. I should say

(01:43:46):
I do not have a show tonight because of Tar
Hill basketball against US Central Arkansas. I believe that mighty
mighty Central Arkansas. So that game is tonight, although Friday
night it's against Kansas. Speaking of sports, you know, we'll look.
We've had a lot of stuff, a lot of candidates,
a lot of politicians on today, including Sheriff Gay McFadden.
But I wanted to bring in Kyle Bailey. I saw

(01:44:06):
him walking down the hallway, and Kyle Bailey, of course
over at w fn Z every day three to six, correct, correct?
So all right, so talk to me about the Carolina Panthers.
You know, somebody said to me yesterday, well, you know
Bryce Young, he's only thrown for over two hundred yards
once and da da da da dah, and they're only
running it because he can't throw. And my immediate reaction was, well,

(01:44:29):
then why did sa Kwon Barkley run for two thousand
yards last last year? Is that because Jalen Hurts can't throw? Right?

Speaker 13 (01:44:36):
No, I told somebody the same thing earlier today. Also,
thank you for having me. I don't think I fit
in with the guests you just mentioned, but I appreciate
you having me over here. I love the station, love
the show. No, I said the same thing.

Speaker 1 (01:44:45):
I mean.

Speaker 13 (01:44:45):
The Eagles won a Super Bowl primarily running the football
with a quarterback in Jalen Hurts, who I love, but
he didn't throw the ball as well as Bryce Young does.
So they went up there to Green Bay yesterday with
a clear game plan. Okay, they were facing the top
team in the NFC. You've been to Green Bay with
it's cold and wendy up there. There were thirty mile
an hour wind gusts inside that stadium. In fact, a
big talking point in a big part of yesterday's game

(01:45:07):
was Panthers special teams coordinator Tracy Smith telling Dave Canalis
before the game, if we win this coin flip, we
might want to take the football because it will give
us a chance to have the win at our backs
at the end of the game, if we're still in it.
Stroke of genius, you know, with the benefit of hindsight.
Dave Canallis took the advice, and so a lot of
folks were surprised when they took the ball to start
the game. Typically you're going to defer, you want the

(01:45:27):
ball to start the second half, but they did that
for a reason, so backing out of it. In a
game like that, facing a top ten offense and defense
with a quarterback like Jordan Love, you want to limit possessions.
You want to grind it down, make it ugly, keep
Jordan Love on the sideline for as long as you can.
And they executed that game plan to perfection yesterday. Matt
Lafleour admitted as much after the fact. It was Dave

(01:45:48):
Canalis's best coaching job bar Nunn since he got to Carolina.

Speaker 1 (01:45:51):
Thought sen Rico Daubdell, like, we know that he had,
you know, earlier in the year when Chuba Hubbard was out,
that he had you know, record setting type back to
back games, and and he came in yesterday to save
the day, you know, one hundred and thirty yards rushing again,
averaging over five yards of carry. What do they do
in that situation? Do they just say, sorry, Shuba, you're
gonna like, we know we're paying you a boatload of money,

(01:46:13):
but we got to go with Rico. Is that what happens?
What do you think happen?

Speaker 13 (01:46:16):
Yeah, no doubt about it. I mean, listen, you and
I've done this for a long time. People joke that
the NFL stands for not for long. It's never been
more true. Now I say that Tuba Hubbard's I don't
think being traded. Tuba Hubbard is still a leader in
that locker room as much as you can be when
you're not the lead back anymore. And it's a violent,
physical game. Who's to say Rico's still playing six weeks
from now. I mean, obviously you knock on all the wood,

(01:46:37):
But is there a more punishing and demanding position in
football than running back. No, of course there's not. Rico
has been incredible. He's a top three running back in
the NFL today right, not anything that's happened prior to today.
He's a top three running back in the NFL. So
he's your lead back. He's running best, you ride the
hot hand. I think Tuba might have come back from
injury a little bit early, and I don't know that
the burst is there. That's not to say that it

(01:46:59):
won't come back, but I think they'll need him before
the season is over with. So they've got a good problem.
They're running with the best back right now. But youub
was still going to be a part of this team
and they may need him to win a game over
the next several weeks.

Speaker 1 (01:47:09):
And finally, let's talk a little bit about the defense.
You know, that was the biggest They were like the
worst defense in the NFL last year in a lot
of statistical categories. First two or three games this year
is like, oh, here we go again, just like last year.
But really, ever since Game four of the season, they've
done really well. Like the way they played against Dallas
you saw yesterday allowing you know, just what thirteen points

(01:47:32):
whatever it was yesterday. I mean the fact that they
shout out against Atlanta that turned around and beat Buffalo
that Like, you know, so the defense, what's going on
with the defense? Like where did this come from?

Speaker 13 (01:47:43):
Derek Brown's back and they have better players in key
spots bottom line. When Dan Morgan and company decided to
bring a Varrow back, there were a lot of folks
who hated that decision, but Dan Morgan said, it's my
job to get him better players. That's what this is.
They got Derek Brown back, they brought in Bobby Brown
and Turk Wharton that Trayvon Merrick is one of the
best signings of the offseason. At safety, Christian rose Boom

(01:48:04):
became the first Panther since Luke Keikley in twenty sixteen,
with back to back games of twelve tackles in a
single game. Switching he and Trevin Wallace with the green
dot on the helmet has made a big difference in
this defense. So they have better players, they're executing better.
I thought Vero deserved a lot more credit even than
he's getting today for the game plan they put forth yesterday.
He's just got better players and he's got Derek Brown available,

(01:48:25):
who I think is the best defensive tackle in football
right now, and yesterday he looked like it.

Speaker 1 (01:48:29):
Well, Kyle Belly every day listen to him on WFNZ
from three to six pm. I really do appreciate you
coming in here tonight because I like to talk Panthers
every once in a while, and you're the one who
helped me out.

Speaker 13 (01:48:39):
Good to see you, buddy.

Speaker 1 (01:48:40):
All right, that's going to do it for tonight. My
name is Brett Jensen, and you've been listening to The
Broke Winnables Show.

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