History, Faith, Resilience, And More On The Brett Winterble Show

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Speaker 1 (00:16):
News Talk eleven ten, nine to three WBT. It's the
Brett Winterble Show. It is great to be with you
this really really beautiful day outside. I mean, I want
to be outside, but we can never do the show
outside like this. I mean, because you know, you can't
go outside and you can have traffic and all kinds
of stuff going on out there. But it is really
good to be with you. I am a I am

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feeling especially optimistic today, and you want to know why,
because it is abundantly clear that Chuck Schumer and Hakeem
Jeffries and Mandami and all these people they've they've done
their worst. They have done their worst, and we have

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weathered the storm, you know, the people that got elected.
While whoopee skippy whatever, who cares. But I don't feel
in any way, shape or form, nervous, angry, any of
that sort of stuff. Because now it's getting down to
nutcrack in time. This is when we have got to

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get the folks to start burning up the phone lines.
And what needs to happen is we need to tell
these people, these scoundrels, to get back to work. How
do you know we're winning? Nancy Pelosi's been driven from Washington, DC.
She is on her way after this last installment. She

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is going to be bye bye, see you later. Not
happy way to go. Nobody likes you. Don't let the
door hit you, where the good Lord split you, all
that sort of stuff, all the sort of stuff like
that that's happening. And this means that a well, well,
the Democratic Party is now on the defense. They're on defense.

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They're not on offense. They're on defense. They did everything
they possibly could have done. They threw every possible thing
that they could have done, and we still have upwards
of so much power coming our way. I know it's

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difficult to kind of think that way. I know that
you're sitting back there and you're saying, oh, there's gonna
be something common, something's going the tariffs are going to
go our way. And I'm saying our way because we
are Americans. The tariff issue is going to go our way.
We are not in any kind of a problem. And
if you think about what it is that we're seeing,

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it's pretty interesting. It's an interesting dynamic. And so what
I want to start with on this beautiful day is
this Today is November sixth, a day when history doesn't
whisper It roars from Columbus puffing tobacco to Lincoln winning

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forty percent, to Lenin storming petrograd. This date is a
lighthouse for every shipwrecked civilization trying to stay afloat. You
want to charter the waters, We can charter the waters.
We can chart the waters this day. In fourteen ninety two,
Smoke on the Water, Columbus, fresh off his Imperial cruise,

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notes that his journal has the Arawak Indians introduced to
his crew and taught them to smoke tobacco. Back in Spain,
one sailor is jailed. He has exhaled smoke and deemed
the work of Satan. The lesson new ideas are always

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criminal until they're profitable. Tobacco becomes currency, addiction, and eventually
a public health crisis. But in fourteen ninety two it
was just a puff of the future, an omen of
how quickly novelty becomes the norm. In eighteen sixty, Lincoln

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wins the nation splits. Abraham Lincoln, a lanky lawyer from Kentucky,
wins the presidency with just forty percent of the vote.
The Democratic Party is shattered into three pieces. Lincoln's platform
stopped the spread of slavery. But here's the kicker. Lincoln
lost the Senate race to Stephen Douglas two years earlier.

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It was the debates that made him a national figure.
He lost the battle, but won the war. What's the lesson?
Sometimes the storm you survive becomes your sale. In eighteen
sixty one, Jefferson Davis and the Confederate One year later,
on the same date, Jefferson Davis is elected President of

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the Confederate States. No opposition, no debate, just a coronation
of rebellion. Davis was also born in Kentucky, also a
war veteran, also a statesman. But his quote says it
all the lesson. Even the captains of doomed ships know

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they are sinking. Dateline nineteen seventeen, Lenin's coup and the
Red Tide. Fast forward to Petrograd November sixth, nineteen seventeen.
Lenin and the Bolsheviks launch a nearly bloodless coup. The
provisional government collapses, the USSR is born, and the Soviets

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are proud of what they've done. Lenin is a exiled,
hunted branded a German agent returns in a sealed train
car like a virus in a syringe. His slogan peace
land bread, his method ruthless, discipline, lesson and of course,

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revolutions don't wait for permission. They rewrite the map. Think
about this, Think about this, ladies and gentlemen. We can
stitch this all together. November sixth, compass and curse. It's incredible,

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and to stitch it all together. Columbus brings smoke, Lincoln
brings hope, Davis brings division, Lenin brings upheaval. Each moment
is a pivot, not a destination. Each leader sails into

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uncharted waters, armed with ideology and blo spots. And here
we are in twenty twenty five and the nation is
still afloat. This is what we have to remember. In
the moment. People think everything is gonna work. In the moment,

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they think it's all magical. In the moment, it's every
possible thing. Today's storm housing, chaos, the Messiah complex. We've
got politicians promising affordability while zoning laws strangle supply. We've
got illegal units packed with families, legal units priced like

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gold bars. We've got Mandami preaching salvation. But the map,
the map won't hold. It will not History doesn't repeat.
It rhymes with desperation, from tobacco to tenements, from Lincoln
to lenin November the sixth reminds us we are always improvising,

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always reacting, always trying to stay afloat, and maybe, just
maybe the real revolution is learning to steer before the
next wave hits. News Talk eleven ten that a nine

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three WBT Brett warterable show good to be with. You
don't forget. You can always reach out to us the
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reach out seven oh four five seven zero eleven ten.
If you do want to, we'll pine you know, it's nice.
What Pete was saying in that last hour is if
you want to, just to attach a name to it.
Otherwise we just all we have is a phone number.

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And I don't want to, you know, shout out the
phone number because I don't have that kind of authority.
But you know, you look at this, We've got a
really interesting time that we're living in. But we're also
dealing with lunacy. Lunacy people who are just out of
their minds. No, I'm not yet going to talk about
Nancy Pelosi in any direct way but I got to

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tell you something. What is going on is unbelievable. It
is unbelievable. Now have you guys been following the story
of the attack that was supposed to happen on Halloween
night there in dear Bornistan. So you've got these people

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who are working to go out and commit carnage or
horri horrific carnage. They want to murder people, they want
to take them down, they want to do all kinds
of horrible things. And then we find out in the
overnight that that is only course number one. We have

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a course number two. Now, these two idiots, you know what,
they're not idiots, idiots idiots imply something, you know, like
they just they just don't know what they're doing. These
two savages who are trying to kill people with this
other isis plot. These people are like coming out of

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the woodwork. It's unbelievable. These are people who are are
sitting back there in white Landia. They live in white Landia.
They're in New Jersey, just down the road by the
way from you want to guess who anybody want to guess? No,
how about Mikey Cheryl right down the road. This is

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a high end place. You know what, it's in uh, Montclair, Montclair,
New Jersey, where the jahadis all gather at every possible take.
So we have got this problem. We have got this problem,
and these people will not be made an example of

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because they are protected. Three teens charged in a connection
with an alleged Halloween terror plot. Right, that's the first one.
That's the first of it. Three more people now have
been charged in connection with an alleged ISIS inspired Halloween
attack that the FBI said it thwarted last week. Federal

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prosecutors in New Jersey and Michigan announced on Wednesday, huh.
Two New Jersey teenagers have been arrested in connection with
the alleged plot. Thomas Kahan Gouzell and Milo Sedentate, both

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nineteen oh both nineteen years of age. Nothing better to
do than to go and kill the Infidel. That's what
you were planning on doing. You're gonna kill the Infidels.
I hope, I hope, I hope they end up getting

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sent down to get MO. They should. People need to
learn the lesson. They need to learn the lesson. If
you want to go out and shoot people up, innocent people,
it's disgusting, it's disgraceful, it's wrong in so many ways.
And why is it suddenly happening?

Speaker 2 (12:28):
Now?

Speaker 1 (12:30):
You got any ideas why it's suddenly happening now? Anybody? Anybody?
Anybody know? Okay, I can help you. I can help you.
The jihadists always go for not the tough efforts. They
go and try to hit soft targets. You want to

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know why they do it. You want to know why
they go to try to do soft target targets. I
can tell you why they do soft targets because they're cowards.
They're cowwards. So let me give you cut number twenty three. First,
this is the reporting of the original plot, and then
I'll give you the second plot, cut number twenty.

Speaker 2 (13:12):
Three, And we're learning new details on what the FBI
calls a thwarted terrorist attack. Prosecutors say two Michigan men
were planning an attack on Halloween similar to the twenty
fifteen ISIS attacks in Paris. Now they're releasing images of
the suspects, they say, buying guns and practicing shooting them
at firing ranges. ABC's Justice reporter Luke Barr has the
latest done that. So, Luke, where is this investigation.

Speaker 3 (13:33):
Now, yeah, Diane, the seventy four page complaint that was
just unsealed by the US Attorney there in the Eastern
District of Michigan sort of paints this picture a little
bit more fulsomely about what exactly happened. They alleged that
moment Ali and Mahjet Muhammad were carrying out and purchasing
weapons in furtherance of a plot for a terrorist organization.

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In this case, they allege it was ISIS.

Speaker 4 (13:55):
They charge.

Speaker 3 (13:58):
The two men with posting streams, you know in ISIS
related materials, and they also want that they charged the
two men with you know, buying these firearms, carrying you know,
going to firing ranges and and you know, looking at
these guns. And they also allegedly rented a U haul.

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They were really trying to you know, scout out some locations,
maybe even go to a disco or nightclub, as they
have alleged in the complaint. And the two men and
the three co conspiras who are miners, we believe allegedly
we're in group chats talking about to say referred to
it as quote unquote Pumpkin Day, you know, in reference

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to Halloween. According to the complaint, and Attorney General Pambondi
just wighed in and thanked the men and women of
the FBI and law enforcement for quote stopping the plot
before innocent lives were lost.

Speaker 1 (14:51):
So now we have part two, cut number twenty four.
Please go.

Speaker 5 (14:57):
What the FBI says started out as a thwarted Halloween
terror attack has now grown to include three more arrests
across the country. Tom Winner joins US now tonight, and
Tom suspects have been arrested in various states they were
inspired by ISIS allegedly, Yeah.

Speaker 4 (15:10):
That's right, Tom.

Speaker 6 (15:11):
Details have been pouring in all afternoon following the arrest
by the FBI and the NYPD of two men in
New Jersey. More charges for three men allegedly connected to
that ISIS inspired Halloween plot in Detroit as well.

Speaker 1 (15:23):
In New Jersey.

Speaker 6 (15:24):
Thomas Khan Jimenez Gouzel was arrested at the airport food
court allegedly trying to join ISIS in Syria in miloceat
some of a famed Iranian American poet separately charged with
making threats.

Speaker 1 (15:36):
Neither has yet to enter a plea.

Speaker 6 (15:38):
All told, five people have now been identified as having
been involved in that Detroit plot, some allegedly purchasing assault
rifles in over one thousand rounds of AMMO. Law enforcement
is deeply concerned that this investigation shows ISIS continues to
have support among so called lone wolf attackers and in
some instances is back to having direct communicate with its followers.

Speaker 5 (16:01):
Tom Tom, one of those new arrest Tom, we thank
you for that.

Speaker 1 (16:04):
Do you know what happened on this date? I believe, uh,
it was either this date or yesterday. It might have
been yesterday, the attack at Fort Hood Jahatists. Let me
let me tell you something. Jahadists love, uh, like significant dates.
That's why they always want to try to, you know,
knock a building down on nine to eleven, or or
they want to go and try to murder a whole

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bunch of people in a in a gay night club
in in Orlando and all that sort of stuff like that.
Right They these people are are putting this together in
a very specific way, and they are looking for the
soft underbelly, and that soft underbelly would be people just
having a good time on Halloween night. And unfortunately, or

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fortunately we got we got to catch these guys, and
now we get to interrogate them. Oh wait, no we
don't because pink okami leftist lawyers are gonna say those
are just children.

Speaker 4 (17:01):
They weren't.

Speaker 1 (17:02):
Really, it wasn't it was aspirational, it wasn't really a plot.
Take them and lock them up. Hello, well Danzig for

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you by request, tell your children not to what my words,
Tell your children not to your mouth words. What's to be?

Speaker 7 (17:35):
What the say?

Speaker 1 (17:38):
Well, you know, you know, you know who is actually
a mother? Do you know you know who is actually
a mother? This is a very very coincidental, uh, sort
of a pick here, Uh, Nancy Pelosi. She's a mom,
and she's quitting the Congress. She's she's leaving, she's heading
on down the highway. And I'm just sitting back here,
and I'm thinking, okay, all right, now, hold on a second,

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why is she suddenly kind of like packing it in?
She said that, I mean, she said she had all
kinds of energy, and she was all good and everything
was great and all this kind of stuff. Nancy Pelosi
will not seek re election, ending decades long House career.
President Donald Trump cheered ex Speaker Nancy pelosi retirement in

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comments to Fox News talking to Peter Doucey, former House
Speaker Nancy Pelosi, Democrat of California, will not be seeking
re election after completing her current term. She announced in
a video this morning. I don't know why she wouldn't
go on like a tour and like, you know, talk

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to MSNBC and CNN and Mandami and all the people
the Mandami network. There is no greater honor for me
than to stand on the House floor and say I
speak for the people of San Francisco. I have true,
truly loved serving as your voice in Congress, and I

(19:04):
have always honored the soul of San Francisco. That's absolutely bunk,
because if she did, she wouldn't have let that city
fall into disrepair as it followed disrepute. Lord, make me
an instrument of thy piece, the anthem of our city,

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Pelosi said in a voiceover, Why didn't you tell Gavin
Newsom clean up the city? Make it nice? Obviously, Nancy
Pelosi understands what a nice part of town is. She
lives in a nice part of town with the gigantic
refrigerators that she had, and she had all that, you know,

(19:46):
hundreds of dollars worth of ice cream d during the shutdown,
when people could barely get food. So she says, that
is why I want you, my fellows, San Franciscans, to
be the first to know that I will not be
seeking reelection to Congress. With a grateful heart, I look

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forward to my final year of service as your proud
representative as we go forward. Pelosi has been a power
player in US politics for decades, having served as House
Speaker from two thousand and seven to twenty eleven and
then again from twenty nineteen to twenty twenty three. You

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guys want to hear one of the big hits from
Nancy Pelosi. You want to hear it, I can do it.
Cut number twenty eight. It's going to be cut number
twenty eight. This is one of her biggest hits of
all time.

Speaker 4 (20:45):
Go.

Speaker 8 (20:46):
This week we saw cold heart evidence of the Trump campaign, Indy,
the Trump family eagerly intending to collude possibly with Russia.

Speaker 1 (20:59):
Wow, what a potential. Maybe could also be maybe not
indictment of Nancy Pelow. I mean, this is this is
what Nancy Pelosi was. This is what Nancy Pelosi was.
This is what she did. I mean, I just I
sit back here and I say, what was What's gonna
be her legacy tearing up the speech that that will

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be the most memorable thing that she ever did, tearing
up the speech in front of the world when President
Trump was giving his speech there in the in the Capitol. Absolutely,
one hundred percent, Absolutely one hundred percent, her legacy will

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be you have to you have to pass the bill
to find out what's in the bill. Remember that with
the Obamacare and then number three, number three, I mean
an absolute winner, number three. Uh, you have to say,
Nancy Pelosi. Nancy Pelosi doing a fake impeachment, giving away

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pens to people that she was signing and then handing
to the to the minions, right, they got the minions there,
and then what did she do? Nancy Pelosi is single
handedly responsible for impeaching Donald Trump. As COVID was hitting

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the United States of America, she disregarded all the important stuff,
trying to prove that Donald Trump needed to be impeached
over who, over who, over Zelenski and who loves Trump?
Now Zelenski, He's got the cards. Finally, he's got the cards.

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But Nancy Pelosi has no cards. As President Trump famously said,
you have no cards, you have no cards to play.
You can't do any of this. It's it. That's that said,
that's how it's going to be. This is a person.
This is a person who I think slept on the job.
Meaning I don't think she cared about the failures in
San Francisco. I don't think she cared about the failures

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in California, which is a sin because she was the
Speaker of the House. She just wanted to impeach and
peach and peach and peach, and didn't really give a rats,
you know, a rat's care in the world for any
of the other stuff that needed to be handled. And
I'm telling you I will be a stalwart in reminding

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people that as COVID hit the United States, they were
impeaching Donald Trump, little Shifty Shift and Goldman and all
those people that were in that cabal, in that cabal,
and what ended up happening. By the time they got
to a place where the former FBI boss was totally

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out of out of commission, they finally had to understand
that this was only going to be an exercise, it
wasn't going to be the real deal. And they tried
it again. They tried it again after January sixth. I mean, look,
think about this, folks. This is somebody who holds onto power,
who came in moderately wealthy and goes out with huge numbers.

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com for detail. You guys, remember the teacher that the
kids shot? Remember the kid, the little kid, the the
first grader came to school with the with the gun.

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Do you guys remember that story? Are you familiar with this?
This story has been resolved. Teacher Abby Zwarner.

Speaker 4 (25:40):
She was the.

Speaker 1 (25:40):
Victim in a lawsuit against the principal who failed to
stop a six year old who shot her. Virginia. What
is with Virginia? Like Virginia's got the nuttiest kind of stories.
I mean, honestly, the guy wants to shoot the kids.

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The guy wants to shoot the children of the Oh
my gosh, what a terrible story. A Virginia jury has
found a former elementary school administrator liable for ten million
dollars in the shooting of a first grade teacher by
a six year old student nearly three years ago. I

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can't believe it's three years ago, but it is. Former
first grade educator Abigail Swarner sued Ebony Parker, the former
vice president of Rickneck Elementary School in Newport News, Virginia,
for gross negligence, alleging that Parker failed to act on

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multiple warnings that the six year old boy had a
gun and was acting alarmingly the day of the January
twenty two, twenty three shooting. Over five hours of deliberation.
How could it go five hours? I would think this
thing would be done in like ten minutes. Over five

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hours of deliberation on Wednesday and Thursday, the seven person
jury ruled in favor of Zwarner, who had actually been
seeking forty million dollars in damages, not just the ten
million dollars in damages. Parker sat stoically, her face unchanging
as the verdict was read out, while Swerner pursed her lips,

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her eyes wide as if to hold back tears. Zwerner's
legal team lauded the verdict in a statement released right after,
saying it would help Zwarner during her recovery from the
harrowing incident. The kid was six years old and shot her.

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This verdict is a major step forward in Abbey's long
road of healing. Lawyers Diane Tuscano and Kevin Benazion and
Jeffrey Bright said in a joint statement, it confirms what
we knew from the beginning. Now here's the problem. It's

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not just the fact that the kid came in and
shot the teacher, which is obviously horrific, as any teacher
would know, as anybody would know. But when the city
of Newport News and its schools failed to protect their teachers,
their students, and citizens, they had to be held to account.
Zwarner was twenty five at the time, and she had

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only been teaching for two and a half years. She
also took the witness stand, telling the jury that she
thought she had died and gone to heaven when she
was shot. The kid had come in with a nine
millimeter handgun and opened fire, shooting her through the hand
and the chest. Apparently this is how it went. Parker's lawyer,

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Sandra Douglas, in her own closing statements later Wednesday, argued
that no one could have predicted what would unfold that day,
that a child so young would have access to a
gun and bring it to school and shoot a teacher.
The student was dropped off by his mom with a

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loaded firearm in his backpack. He's six. What they say
is what happened next was unforeseeable. It was unthinkable. It
was unprecedented. Come on, apparently this kid had a reputation

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to the extent that you can have a reputation when
you're six. The defense lawyer argued that there was a
a series of failures by staffers. Oh what is that?
What's that phrase called? We know what that phrase is?
The system failed? System failed? Who could have known? How
could this happen? The defense lawyer argued that was a

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series of failures by staffers all the way up to
the top, and yet Parker is being made the sole
scapegoat for the shooting. Somebody's got to go down, Douglas says,
we're going to blame Ebony Parker. Parker's side called two

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witnesses on the fourth and final day of testimony, one
medical witness to discount a psychiatrist's assessment that Zwerner had
been living with post traumatic stress disorder since the shooting.
How would you try to impeach her on that regard?
That's disgusting. She got shot. And one school safety expert

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who testified that Parker's response was in line with standards
unless you're the person getting shot. It's horrible. By the way,
the boy was not criminally or civilly charged. His mother
was sentenced to in twenty twenty three to two years

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in prison for child neglect after her son took the
nine millimeter handgun out of her purse. Maybe you don't
just leave it in your purse kind of hanging around someplace.
I mean, this is this is awful, and this is
a measure of justice, but how much.

Speaker 4 (31:41):
You know.

Speaker 1 (31:42):
You just go back to that situation over at the
UH in Michigan. Remember the kid in Michigan who'd brought
the gun to school and they were saying, hey, are
you okay? Are you guys all right? And they didn't
really ever look in and figure out what was going on,
and then you have a you have this mass shooting
taking place in Michigan. Moms and dads, you you you,

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you know what, You're check your kid's bag every day
and make sure there's not a handgun going to the school.
I mean, this is this is a different world entirely.
It's a crazy world. I mean when you do this,
I mean it's pretty nuts. I mean I just I

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just kind of sit back and and really, honestly, I
think it's terrible that that you have people that have
to deal with this. And it's because everybody gets mainstreamed.
Everybody's got to be in the same exact line. They
get they can do whatever they want. There's there's no
ability to put people you know, in in in the uh,
in the office or anything like that. It's this is

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the problem. Teachers are dealing with this, you know. I mean,
people are getting threatened by by people who would otherwise
be just really little kids. How do you know that
I gotta bring a gun? All right? That's one hour down.
We got two great ones straight. Iad don't go anywhere,

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does talk eleven ten ninety nine to three WBT. It
is the Brett Winterable Show, It is great to be
with you. Seven oh four five seven zero eleven ten.
Seven oh four five seven zero eleven ten. I want
to ask you a question, and I'm not going to
try to color it either way, but I'm very curious
about your thought on this. Okay, affordability. What is affordability?

(33:47):
Can you explain to me affordability because it feels to
be to me to be a catch all sort of phrase.
I need something that's affordable, okay, but what is it?
What are you expecting if you're doing affordability, if that's
the standard, if that's the technique, if that's what it's

(34:08):
got to be, because I want you to think about this.
Ver second, I was looking at the things that have
happened over the course of this last election cycle, whether
it's California, whether it's Virginia, whether it's New York, whether
it's Charlotte, whether it's New Jersey, whether it's New York City,

(34:33):
whether any of that sort of stuff. Everybody's talking about affordability.
We need affordability. So where do we go get more affordability?
How does that happen? How do we manifest more affordability
so that people can feel like they can afford whatever
it is they're doing. I mean, once upon a time,

(34:58):
like if we went back to like say, let's just
say the mid seventies. Okay, I think we probably remember
some of us remember the seventies. If you went back
to the mid seventies, right, what didn't you have? You
probably didn't have a computer in your house. Might have
had pong that you plugged into the TV. You didn't
have fifty five thousand subscriptions with all kinds of Internet

(35:21):
stuff and things like that. You didn't have really expensive cars.
Remember the cars for clunkers. Remember that the cars for clunkers.
And what they did that was that was Barack Whosain
Obama wanting to get affordability. So they were taking cars
off the roads. If you remember, We're gonna get rid
and it's going to be incredible, and we got a

(35:42):
whole plan and all this sort of stuff. So those
are some of the things that existed back in the
Stone Age. But I want to think about this for
a second here, Okay, and I'm using this as the
title the Messiah versus the Map, the Affordable Housing cage match.

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So gather around the Messiah Mundami says he can fix affordability.
Rents will drop, homes will bloom, and freebies shall rain
down like manna from Albany, New York. But here's the rub.

(36:32):
He's fighting the map. He's fighting the map. You know
the map. Everybody knows the map. The municipal approval process
that every commutant he has in the entire country, and
the map, the municipal approval process fights dirty. What is affordability.

(37:02):
It's not just cheap rent. It's housing that costs less
than thirty percent of your income. Its location access stability.
If you're commuting ninety minutes to wash dishes that ain't affordable.

(37:25):
The Messiah brings the promise mass scale affordability, public housing expansion,
rent control vouchers and subsidies, anti eviction laws, social housing
built by the state. Sounds great, But here comes that

(37:46):
pesky map one more time. The municipal approval process. The map,
the municipal approval process, zone codes older than Disco nineteen
sixty one, relics that block density, EULURP, a seven month

(38:10):
review circus where every project gets kneecapped by local vetos.
We don't want any apartments, we don't want low income.
We don't want any of that kind of stuff. No, no, no,
go put it out out out there. There there community
boards where neighborhood character means no new neighbors. Council deference.

(38:38):
One cranky council member can kill a three hundred unit
project because you know the twist. New York City voters
just fought back. In twenty twenty five, voters passed four
charter amendments, ended council vetos on affordable housing, created affordable

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housing appeal boards, digitized these cities zoning maps fast tracked
the approval in rich underbuilt areas. The map is bleeding,
but it's not dead. It's not dead anywhere in the country.
Your best case scenario, the Messiah wins appeals Appeals board

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overrides nimbi's developers flood the market with mixed income housing.
Illegal units get legalized and upgraded. Renters renters, I say,
stay put, owners take cash out, and the city grows smart. Charlotte,
Fort Mill rock Hill take note. Worst case scenario, map

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strikes back. Council members slow walk implementation, lawsuits fly, bureaucrats
stall wealthy enclaves, block projects with quote environmental concerns. Illegal
units remain unsafe, overcrowded, and unregulated. The tax based shrinks

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as middle class families flee to the Carolinas. The elephant
in the room illegal occupancy. Thousands of units are illegally
occupied by illegals. Basement apartments with no egress, subdivided room

(40:30):
with no safety for the fire possibility, Airbnb, ghost hotels
in rent stabilized buildings. These units distort the market, evade
the taxes, and endanger lives. What's the solution. What's the solution?
Legalize and regulate where possible, enforce safety codes, aggressively use

(40:55):
fines to fund affordable how upgrades? What's affordable? We're talking
about affordability again. Affordability isn't as sermon. It's a system.
The Messiah can preach, but the map controls the altar.
If we want housing miracles, we need zoning reform, enforcement

(41:20):
and political spine. Otherwise we're just rearranging the deck chairs
on the rent controlled Titanic News Talk eleven, ten, nine

(41:49):
to three WBT. All right, we got people getting getting
a little little up and in it here with this,
with all these different sort of challenges that are happening
here because people everybody wants to have affordability. Everybody wants affordability.
By the way, to Glenn, thank you for approving of
our bumper music. I think it's a tremendous a tremendous

(42:09):
sound here today, no doubt about it. Uh, here's somebody. Ah,
this is this is a tough one. Affordability is simply
a new buzzword for government intervention and using taxpayer dollars
to fund the lifestyle of people who want to live
off the government for a living. Do people really want

(42:30):
to do that? Is that true? That's sad affordability from
Bob G. Bob G's got a good take affordability. Hmm.
How about live within your means, spend on your needs
and save for your wants. But that takes a lot
of time, and the taxes are eating up my my, my,

(42:52):
my business. Oh here's one. This is something that's important.
Number we had mobile home parks in the early eighties.
There were three or four mobile home businesses on North
Tryon Street near the parking shop. Okay, I hate to

(43:15):
say this, but I feel like if you live in
a motor in a mobile home, it better be up armored.
In this day and age, you got to have super strength,
you know windows, And I mean the world is a
is a radically different place today, which is which is
a you know, it's a tough that's a tough thing.
So let's let's take a look at somebody who's got

(43:35):
an idea. This is a guy whose name is Alex Karp. Okay,
Alex Karp. You might not know his name, but you
might know his company. He is the guy who is
the CEO of Pallenteer. Pallenteer is is a big time
company and they are involved with a whole lot of

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AI and everything else that you can imagine. So they
asked him what's the deal? Why is this affordability such
a thing? And they're asking him against the backdrop of
zoron Mom Dami, here's cut twenty seven. Check this out.

Speaker 9 (44:12):
And I think the average you know, ivy league grad
voting for this mayor is highly annoyed that their education
is not that valuable. And the person down the street
who knows how to drill for oil and gas, who's
moved to Texas has a more valuable profession. And I
think that annoys these people.

Speaker 1 (44:29):
Wow, is that possible? Are you blue collar types? Are
you guys who will go out into the oil patch.
You go out and do the work, and you do
the hard stuff, as opposed to sitting there and trying
to trying to stitch together a report that's gonna barely
be read and isn't really making you any money. I mean,

(44:49):
you got to think about this for a second. He's
making a very important point. He's saying, Hey, why don't
you head on down to Texas. You got down to Texas,
you go develop oil the oil patch. Now here's the problem.
The problem is at some point it will flip. At
some point, it will flip because you're gonna have a
communist come in and take the presidency over at some point.

(45:11):
There's just it's just a it's just a factor pretty
much that you can you can guarantee, like you're gonna
get a Gavin Newsom. You might get a Gavin Newsom.
Let's see a Gavin Newsom with a side order of
ribs uh meaning meaning Pritzker, and then a third wheel

(45:35):
over there with like AOC as the brand new Commerce secretary.
I mean, this is entirely possible, and so you have
to be ready for this. So what you gotta be
doing right now is kind of like proofing what you
can do, especially when the system changes, right, And that's
essentially what what Alex Karp is saying. He's saying. Listen,

(45:56):
you guys, I love this cut. I love this cut
so much. Give me this cut again. Cut number twenty seven.
This is money in the bank. Go twenty seven. Oh
that's okay, no, no problem, no brom.

Speaker 9 (46:10):
And I think the average you know, ivy league grad
voting for this mayor is highly annoyed that their education
is not that valuable. And the person down the street
who knows how to drill for oil and gas, who's
moved to Texas has a more valuable profession. And I
think that annoys these people.

Speaker 1 (46:26):
Okay, So here's the thing, though, right, here's the thing.
Who got bailed out by Biden? Does anybody remember what
class of people got bailed out by Biden? And I remember,
college educated, high end degrees. They got bailed out. Remember

(46:50):
the binder got bailed out. All those lawyers and staffers
at the White House with Joe Biden, they all got
bailed out. They out all of their student loans because
you know they I can't I can't rent a five
thousand dollars apartment every month because I am carrying four

(47:11):
hundred thousand dollars in in in you know the deficit
that I've got, and I need Joe Biden to then
shuffle it off over to the federal bank. No, No,
there is a moment right now. We are in an
inflection point. It is clear as day that we are

(47:32):
in an inflection point that things are changing, all right,
And trust me, trust me. I'll bet you ten fifteen
years from now, I'll bet you eight years from now.
I'll bet you five years from now will there be
AI robots hosting shows? They will. That will happen, but

(47:55):
it will not be entertaining. You want to know why,
because it's gonna have like the tempo of MPR. It's
gonna have the tempo of Pravda. It's gonna have the
tempo of that stuff. You're not gonna have the same
sort of stuff, the spark that happens where you're sitting
behind a console and I'm looking suddenly here at a

(48:17):
duffy and of course the great will kine and I'm
looking at that, and I can make a comment about, oh,
isn't that an interesting broch she has? You're not gonna
have that kind of feeling. That's the challenge. But I
will tell you who will be in jeopardy. The people

(48:37):
who will be in jeopardy will be people in I
hate to say it, Hollywood, because you can create all
kinds of stuff and then you don't have to really
go back and change it unless you really want to
go back and change it, and you can still do
that sort of stuff. But that's all. Those are all
the challenges that we're looking at here. There are a
lot of challenges. You have a choice, everybody has a choice,

(49:02):
and yet and yet you have people who are very
very upset about the direction of the country. They're very
concerned about the direction of the country. Here, let me
give you an example. Okay, I think I think this
will this will be something that you can kind of
take and understand. This is going to be cut number

(49:22):
twenty six. Cut number twenty six. This is a person
who is very unhappy and wants to take it out
on her parents, who probably gave her everything she wanted.
And yet the politics of the day, the uncertainty of

(49:42):
the day, Well, we have to do this. I have
to offend people. Cut number twenty six. No commentary for me.

Speaker 10 (49:53):
Go women Day starts with Dick Cheney, You're being dead
and ends with mom Donnie winning Yeah ough, oh.

Speaker 1 (50:05):
Man, Isaac Nick Winter Bowl. Never thought I'd see that day.
Never thought I'd see that day. I just don't get it.
Check out cut number twenty nine, Cut number twenty nine.
This will put a smile on your face. Go ahead.

Speaker 11 (50:28):
God, there is just something so electric, so satisfying about
knowing that my Maga parents, wherever they are, are probably
having a horrible night tonight.

Speaker 12 (50:37):
Oh.

Speaker 11 (50:38):
I literally just got goosebumps thinking about it, like they
are in such a bad mood, probably about the fact
that Zorn just one in fifty's gonna pass. Like wow, God,
I'm sorry. It just makes me feel good that my
maga parents are probably upset right now.

Speaker 1 (50:57):
You know, you know, well, with biblical certitude, she got
everything she ever wanted in her entire life, birthday parties,
sweet sixteen's going out to eat all that kind of stuff.

Speaker 13 (51:12):
And all this person can do is say, I'm so
happy my parents are miserable because it's a Mundami and
and and you know what you should just say to yourself,
you know what, I'm trading mommy for Mamdami And Mamdami's
gonna take care of me.

Speaker 1 (51:29):
That's gonna be something that's very interesting. But you know what,
I just like, what is that?

Speaker 4 (51:36):
Really? What is that?

Speaker 1 (51:37):
I got one even weirder. I'm not playing it yet.
I got one that is nuclear crazy. This is amazing.
I don't understand this. She's happy that her parents are miserable.
Why would you want to be that person. That's because

(51:58):
of the college. That's because you go to the college,
you go to the university, and then you decide you're
gonna kick it with Khalil and all the troublemakers who
wear the same exact Soros issued outfits. What is wrong
with you? You should love your parents. I love your parents.

(52:33):
News Talk eleven ten, nine, nine to three WBT. All right,
I'm gonna play I'm gonna play the clip. I have
to play this clip for you. It's to me. I
think it's very sad. This is a very sad kind
of story. But this is sort of in keeping with
the with the people that you've heard from so far.
So far we heard let me, let me, let's do
a let's let's do a recap, like we're gonna recap this,

(52:56):
all right, give me cut number twenty nine, Letter Ripe.

Speaker 11 (53:02):
God, there's just something so electric, so satisfying about knowing
that my Maga parents, wherever they are, are probably having
a horrible night tonight. Oh I literally just got goosebumps
thinking about it, like they are they are in such
a bad mood, probably about the fact that Zorn just
one in Prop fifty's gonna pass. Like wow, God, I'm sorry.

(53:23):
It just makes me feel good that my maga parents
are probably upset right now.

Speaker 1 (53:27):
Okay, well it's about it's about the affordability Cut number
twenty six. Let me get cut number twenty six.

Speaker 10 (53:33):
Now, when the day starts with Dick Chady, You're being dead,
it ends with Mom Donnie winning.

Speaker 7 (53:40):
Yes.

Speaker 1 (53:41):
Oh, I mean that's pretty rough, Like that's like super rough.
I'm gonna give you a taste of something that's a
little bit more measured. Cut number thirty CNN and Debbie
Dingle and well just listen to this.

Speaker 14 (53:58):
Go.

Speaker 1 (53:58):
Do you have concern Earns about Mom Damie and the
labels that this affords Republicans being used as a weapon
against Democrats.

Speaker 2 (54:08):
Okay, Republicans tried to make Nancy Pelosi the enemies in
Europe's past.

Speaker 1 (54:17):
Yes, they were effective. It was effective.

Speaker 4 (54:20):
What is going on here?

Speaker 1 (54:22):
It was an effective move and it did seem to work,
I mean for a little while. Right, But Nancy Pelosi
is leaving. Nancy Pelosi's all done. Nancy Pelosi's gonna finish
out this this session, and then she's gonna move on
down the highway and she's gonna make a lot of
money with her with her husband. Right, I'm guessing they've
been making a lot of money for a long time.

(54:45):
But when you get when you get into this mix,
you start to see, Okay, maybe this is not so great.
Let's go to cutt number twenty eight Nancy Pelosi on
her happiest moment of all time, cut number twenty.

Speaker 8 (55:00):
This week we saw cold hard evidence of the Trump campaign,
indeed the Trump family eagerly intending to collude, possibly with Russia.

Speaker 1 (55:14):
So, I mean, what does this look like? How does
this go? How do we get there? I don't I
don't know. I don't know what these folks want. Alan
with a very important comment affordability. Some will say break even,
while others might say being able to save at least

(55:37):
twenty five percent of your annual income. I wonder what
policy will put additional Charlotte teans treading water in twenty
six that I have the transit tax won't satisfy Charlotte
gov officials very long before they return for more to

(55:58):
your wallet. And that's all. That's absolutely true because the
nature of the business is to take more money from you. Now,
imagine if we had cities that didn't that didn't confiscatorily
take your money for dumb projects. Like if you think

(56:18):
about this, Kathy hlkl is the governor of New York. Now,
I don't know if any of you guys have driven
in New York. Have you driven in New York in
the last like year or two years, you've done it? Okay,
So you know about the congestion pricing where you have

(56:38):
to pay what is it? I think it's like seventeen
dollars to get into the lower part of Manhattan. I
think it's even higher once it's yeah, it's and that's
per day. So the thing about this is if you
want affordability, get rid of the congested pricing, get rid
of all the other stuff that's going on here.

Speaker 11 (56:57):
This is what you have to do.

Speaker 1 (56:58):
Because what people don't understand is when you come into
a place Charlotte, New York, Washington, d C. All of
these places. They're going to nickel and dime you one
way or another. We can go and decide we're gonna
go drive up to Raleigh. We can go and decide
we're gonna go drive up and we're gonna take the

(57:19):
We're gonna take the you know, the toll roads and
all that kind of stuff. Right, you have to pay
for that. It's the same roadway, but you gotta pay
for that. And so when you do all this stuff,
when all of this stuff gets kind of laid out
on the table and you say to yourself, where's all
this money going, Well, you know where the money's going.

(57:39):
You're paying tolls, you're paying gas, you're paying parking, you're
paying all this stuff. Go to a concert. What is
it gonna cost you to park at a concert if
you go to Bank of America, thirty forty bucks, whatever
it is, that's what the price is. And unfortunately there
is no free ride. I know people like Mandami want
to have a free ride and they want to say
it's more affordable. Affordable for Mandami is very different than

(58:02):
affordable for a regular person. Because his mom is a
big director in Hollywood, and his dad is an elite
guy who stokes the flames and all that sort of stuff,
and he's famous and you can give him. He gives
speeches and he gets paid for giving speeches. So when

(58:23):
you think about all this stuff, the affordability is just
a con Well, I'm going to get you affordability. Affordability
for a billionaire is different than affordability for a college kid,
And affordability for a college kid is very different for
a veteran who's unfortunately sleeping out of doors in New

(58:47):
York City or in the way to the tunnel or
anywhere else. That this is the idea of affordability is
very different. I promise you Joe Biden has no issue
with affordability. He made a lot of money in that business.
But what about the affordability. It's not a lingua franca,

(59:10):
it's not a common tongue that they are using. They're
using a word and everybody who hears that word thinks
about that word. But the outcomes do not come. Why,
because everybody's got a different number that they've got to crack,

(59:30):
period full stop. And it's kind of interesting in some ways.
In some ways, and I'm not trying to be a
deleterious person. I'm not trying to be mean or nasty,
but you know what you got when you got Mundami,
and you know what you got when you get these

(59:52):
left wing sort of politicians that come in and take over,
Like what you're going to see in New Jersey and
what you're going to see in Virginia. What you got
was this. You got sold a timeshare. But they didn't
tell you that you can never get the best of
the time share because that's already baked. They're gonna give you.

(01:00:17):
You wanna go and spend some time at the beach, Sure,
how about the thirty seventh of February. You can go
to the beach then, can't you? Right there? It's gonna
beautiful out on the outer banks. It's gonna be wonderful.
The thirty seventh of February. Yes, that's your shot. Fourth

(01:00:39):
of July not available, Mandami is fourth of July. Theoretically,
do you have the time to listen to me whine
about nothing in everything alone?

Speaker 8 (01:00:55):
Once?

Speaker 1 (01:00:58):
I am one of those malajomadic bulls to the bone
outdown Paddon, so subtig Jim byself The c News Talk
eleven ten nine three WBT Brett Winterbowl Show, Good to
be with You seven oh four five seven zero eleven

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ten special guest coming up at twenty past this next hour.

Speaker 8 (01:01:24):
Let me go.

Speaker 1 (01:01:24):
I want to go here for something that I think
is very important. Okay, here, here's here's what's very important.
I want you guys to understand this. I know a
lot of people get very emotional. I know a lot
of people get very emotional. And Isaac and of course Nick,
we we all have our own sort of opinions about this.

Speaker 9 (01:01:46):
You guys.

Speaker 1 (01:01:46):
You guys like eating food. Are you a food guy?

Speaker 4 (01:01:50):
Yes?

Speaker 1 (01:01:51):
Okay, this is no this is not the exiting interview,
and the exit interview is next next hour. What if
I told you so somebody threw a sandwich at a
cop in Washington, d C. Would you believe that that happened?
I would.

Speaker 14 (01:02:06):
I remember the story, we covered it.

Speaker 1 (01:02:09):
Get ready for this. I can't believe this DC sandwich
thrower found not guilty of assaults the man who threw
a subway sandwich, or I could say it this way,
the man who threw a subway sandwich at a federal officer.

(01:02:33):
In the early days of the Trump administration's law enforcement
surge in Washington, DC earlier this summer, has been found
not guilty of assault. The incident quickly became a symbol
somewhat in jest. I don't think it was. I don't
think there was any jesting going on there for resistance
in DC against the Trump takeover of law enforcement and

(01:02:57):
ramped up deportation effort. It's with spray painted posters and
internet jokes spreading as an homage to the incident popping
in its wake. What would happen? What would happen if
somebody threw a sandwich on Mundami's face right right in
his phase or uh in his gang of four that

(01:03:22):
he's put together as theirs, as their their their next move.
As always, we accept a jury's a jury's verdict that
the system within we function. However, law enforcement should never
be subjected to assault, no matter how minor, said DC
US attorney Janine Piro. Every even children know when they

(01:03:47):
are angry that they are not allowed to throw objects
at one another. I don't know about that, but this
is the thing. This guy, Sean Dunn, Seawn Dunn was
yelling at the officers before throwing a subway sandwich at
a Customs and Border Protection agent before running away and

(01:04:08):
being detained shortly thereafter. In one video taken from a
police officer's body worn camera, Done told the officer, I
was trying to draw them away from where they were,
and I succeeded. Ah. After the verdict was read, Dunn
told reporters that he was relieved and looking forward to

(01:04:29):
move on with his life. Wait a minute, this guy
was a lawyer. Remember he was a lawyer in the
Department of Justice. I think, and I think he got
fired for that because well, I mean, you can just
fire people for whatever purpose that you want to fire.
For him, right, I would like to thank my family
and friends and strangers for all their support, whether it

(01:04:50):
was emotional or spiritual, or artistic or financial. Done said
outside the courthouse that night. I believed that I was
protecting the rights of immigrants by throwing a subway sandwich.
Let us not forget that the Great Seal of the

(01:05:12):
United States says e pluribus unum, which means Jared isn't
at this location. No, no e pluribus unum out of
many one e pluribus unum. Why'd you go get a subway?

(01:05:37):
The uh? That means that from many one, every life
matters no matter where you came from. I think it
does matter where you came from.

Speaker 2 (01:05:46):
I do.

Speaker 1 (01:05:47):
I think if you're coming into the country illegally looking
to create carnage and danger, I think it does matter.
Every life matters, no matter where you came from, no
matter how you got here. Well, I think it does.
I think if you sneak into the country, I think
it does. I think it does mean, it does matter.

(01:06:08):
It does you have the ability to try to, you know,
file a request to come into the country because you're
being persecuted. But I does I don't believe that that's
what happened here, no matter how you got here. No
matter how you identify, identify, I identify as human. I

(01:06:29):
identify as human and affordable. I'm an affordable human. I'm
an I am a very affordable human. I just what
I'm trying to I'm trying to listen to me. I
got a plan here. Just follow follow this. No matter

(01:06:51):
how you got here, no matter how you identify, you
have the right to live a life that is free
that I don't know about. You're in Washington, DC. You
got the irs fifteen feet away from where this guy
is standing. They'll come and take everything from you. They'll
leave you in sackcloth and ashes on a subway. That's

(01:07:12):
you want to talk about affordability, There ain't no affordability
when it comes to the erthse the irs. Dunn's legal
team could be heard loudly celebrating behind closed doors. US
Attorney's office didn't immediately comment on the acquittal. Jurors had
deliberated for seven hours on the single charge it was

(01:07:34):
a subway Sangwich seven hours trying to decide. Dun's attorneys
did not argue over the facts of the case, but
in one sticking point they didn't know. News Talk eleven,

(01:08:07):
ten ninety nine three WBT Brett Waterbull Show, Good to
be with you. We have this brand new phenomenon that
is happening. I've been sort of tracking like the sort
of different cultural changes that are happening right before our eyes.
When people talk about and I'm only gonna mention this
word one time, okay, when people talk about affordability that

(01:08:29):
it's just like a touch word. It's like a word
you just say, hey, I want affordability, I want this,
I want that. Because the reality is I see a
whole lot of very bad behavior from people who have
a lot of money. I'm not talking about anybody in
this audience. I'm talking about sort of generally. So earlier
today I gave you guys the story about the Jihadis

(01:08:55):
who wanted to massacre innocent people at the Halloween celebration
last week. So now we've got more information, and these
two guys, who come from multi millionaire families, alleged Jahadi yuppies,
ranted about beheading infidels and attacking Jews in Tony, New

(01:09:21):
Jersey suburbs. Thomas Can Jimenez Guzel, nineteen, who lived at
his parents' million dollar home in the wealthy New Jersey city,
was arrested at Newark Airport as he waited to board
a plane. All right, these guys are bad dudes. These

(01:09:46):
are guys who were ready to murder people. Thomas Khan
Jimenez Gazelle, who lived at his parents' million dollar home
in the wealthy city of New Jersey, was arrested at
Newark Airport. He was getting ready to fly to Turkey
because he wanted to join ISIS. Authorities said he planned

(01:10:09):
to travel to Syria to join ISIS, to which he
had sworn allegiance, according to a forty eight page criminal complaint.
The Feds also released pictures of the son of a
UN diplomat who heads a women's business agency, posing in
front of an ISIS flag wielding a knife. Suspect Milo

(01:10:35):
Siddarat nineteen, the son of a noted Iranian American poet,
meanwhile raged about his mother having Jewish friends and said
that he wanted to execute five hundred Jews and make
their wives and children's slaves. According to federal documents, well,

(01:10:57):
I mean that's just that's just a matter of number
relative to what you just saw in Virginia, by the way,
because you had a person that wanted to execute kids
and people. He also said he wanted to use his
car to mow down a pro Israel march, which happens
to be Mikey Cheryl's hometown. What a classy group of people, huh.

(01:11:24):
Also arrested was a co conspirator, said Ali Murray of Kent, Washington,
whom Feds trek down and busted his Washington day before
he was supposed to fly to Turkey, and then group
chats held by the teens and other participants in the

(01:11:45):
alleged conspiracy painted a portrait of angry, violence obsessed young
men who fell deeply into Jahadist indoctrination. So it just
goes on and on and on and on, and these
pictures are damning, These pictures are These are like guys
who are just straight out of Jodyville.

Speaker 4 (01:12:06):
Man.

Speaker 1 (01:12:06):
I mean, it's crazy. Don't worry though, Mundami's got this.
An Empire State Republican is criticizing New York City Mayor
elect Zorhan Mamdami for his attendance at a conference in
Puerto Rico days after winning his race and during the
longest government shutdown in US history. Quote, if Zorhan Mandami

(01:12:30):
is truly serious about helping working families, he wouldn't be
jetting off to a luxury resort the moment he wins
an election. That's according to Mike Lawler, who first told
the comment to Fox News Digital. Fox News Digital confirmed
that Mandami is expected to travel to the twenty twenty
five SOMOS conference in Puerto Rico today.

Speaker 4 (01:12:55):
So there you go.

Speaker 1 (01:12:57):
That's affordable. That's affordable, especially if you're the child of
very wealthy people. And don't I don't have a problem
with him being the child of very wealthy people. But
I do think this is crazy. This jihadis attack. I mean,
this should be like on every channel, wall to wall.
These people were really going to go and murder people apparently,

(01:13:20):
you know, you look at this. It's just unbelievable, all right.
Taking some of the comments from the folks who are
showing up with us, Phil said that he was not
found guilty of assault because the sandwich only had pepper
on it. And I don't know about that one. Okay,
here's another one. This is another take from somebody. The
word affordable is associated with the single payer healthcare system

(01:13:44):
attempting to be implemented. That is one of the talking
points of our local sheriff keeps talking about mental health.
It takes two to commit you for observation forty eight
hours in many states involuntarily. The People's Republic removed all
the opposition one way or the other. I can't I
cannot deny that at all. I cannot deny that at all.

(01:14:07):
That is true. But when you put yourself in the
hands of the government, the government is going to do
what it will. Coming up in this next segment, you
don't want to go anywhere. It's a very special episode
of Punky Brewster. No I'm kidding. News Talk eleven ten

(01:14:39):
nine nine three WBT, A little Babasties for you. All right,
good stuff, ladies and gentlemen. I have to make an
announcement to you, for those of you who have been
listening so wonderfully to this particular program and all the
programs here on WBT, it is it is my high

(01:15:03):
honor and distinct privilege to welcome behind the microphone my
good friend Isaac Robson. How are you, Isaac? Fantastic? This
is Isaac's last day with us, the last rodeo. He
came in wide eyed, nervous, sweaty, and he's become a champion.

(01:15:32):
He has weathered the storms. And so I wanted to
I wanted to salute you, Isaac, and I wanted to
say thank you very much for being here doing all
the hard work you do on all the shows. It
is just such a pleasure to get to work with
with a fine gentleman like you, and you should be

(01:15:53):
proud of the good work that you have done here
and you will do down the road. I appreciate all
high praise. Uh.

Speaker 14 (01:16:01):
I wish you would have saved it for the end
so you didn't choke me up right here at the
beginning of the segment. But uh, it's been an honor.

Speaker 1 (01:16:06):
Uh And I said this.

Speaker 14 (01:16:12):
At the News and Bruise. The last uh two years,
I've learned a lot more than I ever did in school. Uh,
it's been it's been an honor. It's been a privilege
to work with you guys.

Speaker 1 (01:16:28):
Oh man, So if it's our pleasure and you're not going,
I mean you're you're you're doing other things, but you
know you're still gonna be able to hear the show, now, don't.
I'm gonna I'm gonna have to put that. I'm gonna
have to drop the hammer here on one thing here.
Don't be calling in with different names, like if you're
gonna call in, I'm going to now. Wendy asked this question,

(01:16:49):
and she says, is this because of AI? It is?

Speaker 4 (01:16:54):
It is?

Speaker 1 (01:16:55):
It is? It's the AI. It's not about the AI.

Speaker 14 (01:16:58):
No, it's the three I let is that what it
is to you? I'm going to prepare. I've got a
welcome this whole welcome party. I'm trying to throw it
for him, and it's taking.

Speaker 4 (01:17:07):
Up a lot of times.

Speaker 1 (01:17:07):
No, man, come on, that's crazy. Okay, So when to
take people behind the behind the curtain here for a second.
So what we do when we put our show together,
and it's it's sort of similar to all the other
folks except TJ Ritchie who has a much bigger kind
of horizon there with the stuff that he uses for prep.

(01:17:29):
I send in prep to Isaac all the time, like
twenty four hours a day pretty much. I'll send him
a story, I'll send him this to that. I try
to keep it quiet, like in the really dark hours
of the night. But you know, Isaac has to put
all this stuff together, help us out do the calls.
Lonnie's on the board right now. Lonnie's on the call

(01:17:51):
right now. And then Nick is going to be replacing Isaac,
even though it's not really replacement. It's just it's going
to be different, different sort of things. But the act
of the matter is we've got we've got a great
team here. And I mean, Nick is Awesomelanie's awesome. You're awesome.
That's why you're leaving because you're so awesome. And then
you know, it's just to me, it's awesome. It's just

(01:18:12):
it's very exciting to see the things that we can
build out and you know, you can come back and
say hello and hang out and do in different things
like that, but you have to use your real name.

Speaker 14 (01:18:24):
All right, I'm gonna maintain my my spot as the
AI skeptic expert.

Speaker 1 (01:18:31):
Yes on the show.

Speaker 14 (01:18:32):
Yes, I will be calling in with all new developments
and things to panic about.

Speaker 1 (01:18:36):
Okay, So do you do you really fear AI?

Speaker 14 (01:18:44):
In In short, yes, ah, I think the UH. I
think it's gonna do countless phenomenal, incredible things. I have
said that before and I'll say it again, but I
don't think that we have yet caught up with the
negative side effects that social media has had on society, right,

(01:19:05):
And I keep it in on you talking about the
Jihatis from the suburbs in this last segment, and I would,
you know, make the argument that you didn't see this
before social media, and if you did, didn't see it
at this level.

Speaker 1 (01:19:19):
That's true.

Speaker 14 (01:19:20):
These are young men who have lost purpose and lost
their way. They're looking for meaning and they find it
in these radical and demonic and evil ways and they
you know, they go down that path because they're so
frustrated with the state of affairs. They find themselves in
and I think AI is only going to push that

(01:19:42):
even further. I mean, you have these stories of you know,
both men and women having AI boyfriends and girlfriends.

Speaker 1 (01:19:48):
I don't understand that at all.

Speaker 4 (01:19:49):
That's weird.

Speaker 14 (01:19:50):
And what are we gonna do whenever they you know,
they have the robots and oh my gosh and everything else. Like,
I think it's only going to continue to get work
in those ways, and it's not something we can't stop.
I've said that for as well.

Speaker 1 (01:20:05):
Right, this is going to happen.

Speaker 14 (01:20:08):
We have to do it, but we need to start
actively and put a lot of importance on finding guardrails
for this and finding ways to help society adapt to it, yep,
without falling down these negative rabbit holes.

Speaker 1 (01:20:22):
And then you're gonna at some point you're gonna have
you know, the You're gonna have the male and the
female who are two time in you, who are fake,
who don't exist, and they're gonna go in a lope together,
and then you're gonna be all very upset the.

Speaker 14 (01:20:35):
Aas get married, and then you're left alone with just humans.

Speaker 1 (01:20:38):
Again, that's my dream. I just want to be around humans.
I just want to be around humans and pets and
just normal regular stuff. So Isaac, honest, honest to god,
I know you're still gonna be here for a little bit.
But it's my pleasure to get to work with you.

Speaker 4 (01:20:54):
Man.

Speaker 1 (01:20:54):
It's it's been phenomenal. You have the transom you can
send send stories in if you want to be on,
and any of that sort of stuff. But I can
tell you on behalf of all everybody on this team
and everybody in this in this community, we appreciate you, man,
and it's really great to see you moving up and
moving on and can't wait to see you back here again.

(01:21:14):
I appreciate it.

Speaker 14 (01:21:15):
It's been a it's been a blast.

Speaker 1 (01:21:17):
It's awesome, man, it's awesome. And it's a credit to
your mom and your dad and your family. They raised
you right. You don't fall for nonsense. That's what's cool.
That's what's really cooled. Nick doesn't fall for nonsense. I
don't think you fall for nonsense.

Speaker 4 (01:21:29):
Nick.

Speaker 1 (01:21:29):
I think I think you're right there on the right
track there, my friend.

Speaker 4 (01:21:32):
Well, I've studied under.

Speaker 1 (01:21:35):
That's good. Okay. Now we're gonna find out next week.
I'm gonna find out did you put like a little
landmine in there someplace? You know, just a little secret,
great stuff. God bless so Happy News Talk eleven, ten

(01:22:03):
ninety nine three WBT. It is a pleasure to welcome
to the program somebody who is we got that thing
turned on. I'm sorry about that. I want to welcome
Lucas Miles joining us here today on the program, and
it is a pleasure to have you here. He's a
trusted voice in the American church who has consistently addressed

(01:22:25):
some of the most challenging topics in theology, politics, and culture.
And he hosts tpusa's faith flagship podcast, Strong Church with
Lucas Miles, and he is joining us here on the program.
Thanks so much for making.

Speaker 4 (01:22:41):
Time for us, sir, Hey, thanks for having me.

Speaker 1 (01:22:44):
Give us your thoughts as we have passed just about
the what's seventieth day since the passing of Charlie Kirk
and I know how close you were working with him,
and just give us your your thoughts, especially on the

(01:23:04):
aftermath of the interview that was done with Fox News
and Jesse Waters and Erica.

Speaker 12 (01:23:11):
Yeah, no, I appreciate opportunity to talk. Charlie was one
of a kind. I've been I've been at tpsa faith
I've had the opportunity in the honor to be able
to serve under Charlie for about the last eighteen months.
It's been just an incredible experience.

Speaker 4 (01:23:26):
Charlie was.

Speaker 12 (01:23:29):
Potentially the most integrity filled person that I have ever encountered.
Who he was at the microphone was who he was,
you know, behind the scenes, and just was you know,
even though he was fifteen years younger than me. I
learned so much from him and it was an incredible
experience all of us here. I think on the other

(01:23:50):
side of this, there's just there's a tremendous resolve that
is set in the mission. Is seems to be clearer
than ever before. The work is more important than ever before.
We understand what's at stake now. And you know, Charlie
was willing to put himself out there every single day
at the risk of of you know, threat and personal

(01:24:10):
peril and and ultimately the risk of his own life.
But he did it because he understood what was at
stake and he and he had a love for this
generation to reach him with the truth. And so we're
we're continuing that as we go forward, and I oversee
all of our faith operations within Turning Point and and
honor to continue to do that and hopefully for the
foreseeable future.

Speaker 1 (01:24:31):
How how are you how are you feeling in terms
of uh, you know, out of out of a terrible
uh occasion, you have a mighty amount of water coming
in now. People are are are are very curious, people
are very excited about this mission. Talk a little bit
about this sort of renewal that that seems to be

(01:24:52):
taking a hold.

Speaker 12 (01:24:54):
Yeah, you know, there's been a groundswell of support and
interest and new volunteers and new chapters and new pastors
and churches that are working with us. I mean, Turning
Point has multiple different divisions. You know, my division particularly
is very focused on pastors and so you know, we
had before September tenth, we had about four thousand pastors

(01:25:18):
and churches that we were working with. We now are
at over eight thousand. So we have literally doubled what
it took us multiple years to do. You know, we
saw you know, obtained that and then some in a
period of sixty seventy days. Look, you know, we're so
grateful for the opportunity that Erica had to be able
to you know, share some of her story, you know,

(01:25:39):
on Jesse Waters the other nights, and and you know,
just her her leadership here. You know, Charlie was a
constant and he and Erica were just they were such
a good match. And she has stepped in. I had
a chance to have some time with her this week
for a couple of meetings, and and she's just doing
a tremendous job in the organization. When she was named CEO,

(01:26:03):
I think the whole staff here just took kind of
a sigh of relief. She's just provide kind of this
unifying force and really, you know, helped keep that mission
pure and focused and safeguarded. And you know, she's doing
a great job obviously through the lens of tremendous amount
of grief.

Speaker 4 (01:26:20):
Most people would not.

Speaker 12 (01:26:21):
Be strong enough to do what she's doing right now,
But by God's grace, she's continuing that forward in just
a powerful way.

Speaker 1 (01:26:27):
Tell me about the Pagan threat confronting America's godless uprising.
Certainly we're seeing it at pretty much every other corner
that we can possibly see. What are your thoughts about
this with this book that you have.

Speaker 12 (01:26:40):
No I appreciate the opportunity to talk about the book. Yeah,
Pagan Threat, it's the third week in a row as
on the New York Times bestseller list, which is at
first for me, which is very excited about that congress,
and very honored to have thank you, very honored to
have Charlie write the forward to the book. And I
think that Charlie understood the pagan threat better than anybody.
Ultimately the thing that took his life, and that is

(01:27:02):
this intentional demoralization of the American people, pushing us into
kind of a post Christian worldview here in this nation
that's driven by Paganism, that's driven by Marxism, that's driven
by an LGBT agenda. Now we're seeing, you know, a
rise and islamisis and radical Islam, you know, across the country,

(01:27:23):
and these things are kind of these different ideologies are
working together in order to basically resist and stand up
against what they believe to be, from a Marxist standpoint,
the greatest oppressor. And I think ultimately that's faith in
Jesus Christ. And so you know, there is an intentional
effort right now to supplant the Christian viewpoint, the Christian

(01:27:46):
way of life, and I think into silence anybody who
stands up for that, and that ultimately is what took
Charlie's life. He died a Christian martyr, and so this
message has become even more important to me to get
this out to people, to help them understand what's at
stake and ultimately what we what we can.

Speaker 4 (01:28:02):
Do about it.

Speaker 1 (01:28:03):
We obviously know what's happening in the in the current iteration,
in this current time like this, but what does the
forecast look like for the younger generation coming up here?
You know, post COVID sort of things that are happening.
But how do we get these folks to understand that
there is a better way than turning to the darkness,
It's better to turn to the light. Well, what would

(01:28:24):
you say to someone who was, you know, eleven, twelve
years old who might be interested in knowing more about
the faith tradition here?

Speaker 12 (01:28:34):
Yeah, I think that you know, first off, parents have
to be highly, highly engaged today. There are so many
ditches that young people can fall into, and they're they're subtle.
You know, it's it's it's in cartoons, it's in school curriculum,
it's in you know, all sorts of after school programming,
and you have to really know every single input that

(01:28:54):
your child has gone to the days where you can
just put a tablet in front of your kids and
not pay attention to what they're watching on YouTube, or
what they're watching on Disney or what they're watching on
Amazon Prime. Uh, there is an intentional drive to indoctrinate
young people with Marx societyology. It's been documented. This is
not conspiracy theory. This is this is clear and there's

(01:29:17):
an agenda for that. And so, you know, for a
young person interested in spirituality, I think it's very important
that they you know that, you know, I mean I
would encourage kids to start reading some of the classics,
get into some of the great Christian writers of more
more modern eras like A. C. S. Lewis, you know,
read the scriptures, get into the word, find a find
a youth group that's actually you know, standing strong as

(01:29:38):
a church and teaching the word of God. Get involved
with a turning point, you know, one of our Club
Americas in high school and or you know, a college program,
one of our college chapters if they're if they're older.
You know, there's a lot of great places now to
find input that is going to help you. And I
think that you know, obviously, you know, parents have to
be very vigilant today and kind of have their head

(01:29:59):
on a swivel to make sure that you know, kind
of this deconstruction is to genda is not striking their house.

Speaker 1 (01:30:05):
Lucas Miles. It's a real pleasure to get to know you,
to get to meet with you here and talk about this.
Consider the door open and we are we are more
than happy. Where do people go to get the book
and where they may want to reach out and connect
with you as well?

Speaker 12 (01:30:21):
Yeah, absolutely, sim book Pagan Threats available wherever books are
sold forward by Charlie Kirk, Amazon, Barnes and Noble, Christianbooks
dot com. If you want to find out more about
me and go to Lucasmiles dot org or you can
follow me on Instagram, TikTok, Facebook, at at mister Lucas Miles.
That's m R Lucas Miles and I would love to
connect with the listeners.

Speaker 1 (01:30:39):
Thanks, thanks for the time today. We really appreciate it.
Be safe out there and feel free to come back anytime.
We really appreciate any come questions. You got it absolutely.
News Talk eleven ten nine three w BT Brett Winterble Show.

(01:31:01):
It's good to be with you seven o four five
seven zero, eleven, ten. You know who's coming up next
is breaking Bret Jensen. He's going to be coming up next.
He's going to be on the program with me. Oh,
I'm gonna shanghai you here for a second if I
can do this. Okay, you know, you know he's Isaac.

Speaker 4 (01:31:20):
You know I know.

Speaker 1 (01:31:21):
Oh, I'm well flying the coop, flying the coop. Yeah,
I know. I'm gonna let you have your own your
own say I already already, you know, I straightened about all.

Speaker 4 (01:31:29):
I'm going to be giving him flowers.

Speaker 1 (01:31:31):
You're giving him flowers.

Speaker 4 (01:31:31):
No, I'm not giving him.

Speaker 1 (01:31:32):
I didn't get what. I didn't give him flowers? Holy cow. No,
I don't have that kind of I don't have that
kind of shuddrole.

Speaker 4 (01:31:39):
I say, don't let the door hit you.

Speaker 1 (01:31:41):
WHOA, Yeah, you had big news last night.

Speaker 4 (01:31:47):
I did. What do you got?

Speaker 1 (01:31:49):
You know?

Speaker 7 (01:31:49):
Sheriff McFadden announced on the show last night that he
is running exclusively announced on the show that he's running
for re election, and he put out immediately about an
hour and a half later or something like that or
even this morning. And I'd like to thank every Charlotte
media entity out there for not giving us.

Speaker 1 (01:32:10):
Credit they didn't have no credit.

Speaker 4 (01:32:12):
Shaw the sheriff has announced he's running for mayor, but
didn't say where or when. Thank you, thank you for that.

Speaker 7 (01:32:20):
Wow, And then so yes, but then well, we had
some very interesting and very candid discussions last year, I imagine,
and one.

Speaker 4 (01:32:29):
Of them resolved revolved around, you know, the city leadership
in Charlotte. And you know, I said, thirty.

Speaker 7 (01:32:38):
Percent of the city is African American and they have
every position of power, every like whether it's attorney's, county maager's,
city manager, superintendent, fire, chief, district attorney, sheriff, whatever. And
I asked him what he thought about that and why
I thought and why he thought that was the case now,
and we talked about that on air and it was

(01:32:59):
very can did and he just and I remember his
answer was because we're now ready interesting.

Speaker 4 (01:33:05):
You know, and because it is you know, it's somewhat
of an anomaly, you know, for that to happen.

Speaker 7 (01:33:11):
And so, I mean, we talked about we talked about
jailed North that he closed, We talked about all kinds
of things, and so I really encourage everyone to go
back to the dot com and.

Speaker 4 (01:33:20):
Take a listen to it. Well Worth is well Worth
it very interesting things well worth. But yeah, it was good.
It was good. By the way, I'm going to be
doing an autopsy.

Speaker 1 (01:33:30):
An autopsy on what what, which race or all.

Speaker 7 (01:33:32):
Of them, all of them, the post mortem, the autopsy,
because you know, I've got a lot of info, you know, and.

Speaker 1 (01:33:40):
So what's which one? What surprised you at this early
stage of the game. What race surprised you most?

Speaker 4 (01:33:48):
It's not even close the Leasa Kline race, school board race. Yeah,
not even close.

Speaker 7 (01:33:53):
Three years ago, she came out as a nobody, nobody
knew who she was. She beat a Democrat that was
well known, sure, and she's the incumbent, got endorsed by
the charlt Observer. No one came out against her, and
she lost by four thousand votes. And I don't it's

(01:34:14):
it's one of those things where everyone's left scratching their head.
But here's the thing, and I'm really really going to
get into this, and this is a little bit of
a teaser. Yeah, but people think it was solely the
one cent sales tax that got all these people to vote.

Speaker 4 (01:34:29):
In twenty twenty three, fifteen point five percent of the
public voted in the local elections. Gotcha twenty two percent.
No kidding on Tuesday.

Speaker 1 (01:34:38):
Wow, but guess what what's that?

Speaker 4 (01:34:40):
It wasn't just Mecklenburg County where that happened.

Speaker 1 (01:34:43):
That's interesting.

Speaker 4 (01:34:45):
And I did deep dives.

Speaker 7 (01:34:46):
There's one hundred counties in North Carolina and I did
deep dives comparing twenty twenty three to twenty twenty five turnout,
what counties surged and why and what counties did not
And obviously fifty percent sures or forty five percent surge
for mech County in butter turnout?

Speaker 4 (01:35:01):
Is it?

Speaker 12 (01:35:02):
Is it?

Speaker 1 (01:35:02):
I'm not trying to spoil the party here, but is
it because we have new people coming in like one
hundred people every day or whatever they say the number? No?

Speaker 7 (01:35:12):
No to your point, Yeah, yes, to your point. Charlotte
is literally getting bluer every single day.

Speaker 1 (01:35:19):
That's unbelievable.

Speaker 4 (01:35:20):
That's a statistical fact. Like it's not like, oh my gosh,
it's good.

Speaker 1 (01:35:24):
That is a which means they're not hiding out in
the other they're not hiding out in the other counties
or South Carolina.

Speaker 7 (01:35:30):
Correct, Charlotte is getting literally bluer every single day. About
one hundred people moved to Charlotte every day. You always
hear the number one, it's one hundred and fourteen people. No,
that's moved to Mecklinburg County. Well, the number that everyone
loves to use now is one hundred and fifty seven. Well, no,
that's a fourteen county region.

Speaker 1 (01:35:45):
There you go, right, So Charlotte is Charlotte, Charlotte.

Speaker 7 (01:35:48):
Just Charlotte, Charotte sitiy lim is. It's about one hundred
a day moved to Charlotte. And there are, like I said,
exactly one hundred counties in North Carolina, in ninety five
of them ninety six of then yeah, since the last
election has actually gotten redder. Charlotte has gotten a deep, dark,
almost purple bluer wow, like it is it's not even

(01:36:11):
like a purple color. It is like as deep as
the ocean depths blue. And it is getting bluer and
bluer and bluer every single day. And now you're seeing
that spill over into some of the surrounding towns that
we're always red.

Speaker 1 (01:36:27):
So when you when you look at that, does that
then tie back to the people who are now leading
Mecklenburg County.

Speaker 4 (01:36:40):
Yes, okay, one hundred percent. Okay, it's not even close.

Speaker 1 (01:36:44):
So it's so it's like a it's like a renaissance.
It's like a renaissance of going coming in from the
from the from the left.

Speaker 4 (01:36:51):
Yeah, and that's exactly what's happening.

Speaker 1 (01:36:53):
Interesting.

Speaker 4 (01:36:54):
But Mecklumburg County wasn't alone on Tuesday.

Speaker 1 (01:36:57):
Oh that's the big reveal that'll be coming up here
in a little bit. Yeah, yeah, yeah, breaking Brett Jensen.
It's great to have you here and you get breaking
all the stuff down. Well, I wasn't in studio. I
was I was remote on on on election night.

Speaker 4 (01:37:13):
I don't know, but I mean, you look good. You've
got a nice tan going on.

Speaker 1 (01:37:17):
I don't have a tan. What do you doing? You're
trying to throw me under the bus.

Speaker 4 (01:37:23):
Don't be throwing from the beach over here. What are
you doing?

Speaker 1 (01:37:26):
What are you talking about? It's cold outside, baby, it
is baby, it's cold outside.

Speaker 4 (01:37:32):
Well, it's gonna be beautiful this weekend. This week is
gonna be Monday. Monday night is getting in the twenties.

Speaker 1 (01:37:37):
Okay, See, I don't need that. I don't now. I
gotta go. I gotta go, and I gotta get my
muck a lucks. I gotta get my mucklucks and my
hat and my chaps. I got I gotta get it all.
It's gonna be a great day. Photographs forwarded. Thanks so much.
I appreciate you being here. Breaking with Brett Jensen is next.

(01:37:58):
I'm Brett Witterbolt. Thanks and to you, my friend, and
to you and to you and you you are all
so fabulous. News Talk eleven, ten ninety nine, three WBT

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