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Speaker 1 (00:00):
But it's Friday at roughly three forty five, and we
chat with Chip Patterson of CBS Sports dot Com, CBS
Sports Network, and the Cover three podcast. He's back with
us here on a Friday. What's up, brother? How are you?

Speaker 2 (00:11):
I'm doing pretty good, Kyle Hope, you are? I am?
I am.

Speaker 1 (00:13):
I'm excited again. I'm pre nostalgic because college football is
evaporating right in front of us each and every week,
and it makes me sad and anxious and you know,
worried what I'm gonna do without it. But we still
have it for the here and now, and tonight we
got a couple of pretty good games here. We got Louisville,
the number twenty team in the country, hosting Clemson seven
thirty on ESPN, Number eight Oregon hosting Minnesota as well

(00:34):
tonight on Fox. But let me get your thoughts on
Clemson and Louisville. Obviously, Clemson season took a hard left
turn a long time ago, but Louisville's trying to hang in.
What do you think about this game tonight?

Speaker 2 (00:46):
I'll give you the game first, but then we got
to address that paranoia. But okay, here's the deal. Jeff
brom does not sound confident at all in his quarterback
situation or his offense. Their star running back Isaac Brown's
going to be out again. I know he's hobbled for
most of the year. And Clymson's got a little bit
of confidence coming out of beating the Florida State. You

(01:08):
heard Doblosweeny say it. A win against the Knowles is
always going to mean something. If they carry a little
bit of confidence into a Louisville team that I think
has been better this year, but it's certainly looking a
little rocky, then yeah, it could be yet another unranked
team taking down a ranked team in the ACC. But
kind of don't be so don't be so worried. I mean, yes,

(01:30):
you you are right to be concerned about the future
of college football, but I am reminded that it's gonna
be okay. You go talk to college football players today,
You look at the young coaches and the people who
are trying to make that engine run. I know it's
getting more sanitized top to bottom, but college football will
always be a human sport because it takes a whole

(01:50):
lot of people to make it happen. And that's just
going to be a reflection of whatever society is.

Speaker 1 (01:55):
Well, to be clear, I'm just more concerned about it
the season evaporating in front of us, because I agree
with what you said there a second ago.

Speaker 2 (02:01):
That's all. Now you were talking about like the future
of the sport. We've lost America about college.

Speaker 1 (02:07):
No, no, no, no no, I've just got the mid
November scaries. You know that the season's almost over. That
that's all. But to that point, I've had a couple
of fun conversations about this this week. You know, Tom Logan,
Bill who I know, you know, was on the on
fn Z a couple of mornings ago and was saying, guys,
look at all the one score games. Look at you know,
the increased parody. This hasn't necessarily been the rich getting

(02:27):
richer in the way that we thought when nil arrived
a couple of years ago after the Supreme Court decision.
Talents more spread out, games are more unpredictable. Did did
do you think the big predictions of well, this is
just going to concentrate power and the rich will only
get richer that did that turn out to be true
in your mind? Because I don't think it is.

Speaker 2 (02:45):
No, Yeah, definitely not. You're not just able to skate
by on reputations, and it's not just like an nil thing.
I think that there were just a lot of programs
that were able to operate at a little bit of
a discount, just kind of on the name value. And
what this new world has shown, which again is in

(03:05):
part spending not only on roster but on resources as well.
What we've seen is that it's allowed for some of
these sort of a breakthrough opportunities, and it's really forced
some of the old guard to modernize in a way
that I think has made the entire sport better. Right Like,
if you were able to just skate by on name

(03:26):
brand forever, then there would ultimately be a lower bar
that everyone would be having to chase. So I think
the sport of college football is better because of Nick Saban.
And one of the things that Nick Saban really sort
of introduced early on at Alabama was the idea of
sort of building this army, getting everybody in line with
all the analysts and things of that nature. So I agree,

(03:50):
I think college football is in a great spot right now.
And I'm also just continuing to be surprised. I mean,
I was thinking about this today because I'm also trying
to do the college basketball thing like you are. It's
a little bit confusing. Brain get scrambled. But I was
thinking when Rev. Shaer was introduced, one of the narratives
was that the Big East was about to have a
huge advantage that because they don't have to spend on football,

(04:14):
they're able to pour more into basketball and that's going
to be the difference. But I'm looking at the Big
East right now, Colin, I don't think that's the case
at all, you know, like I think it is at
programs where you have decided to care, where you have
made intentions about wanting to be good, those are the
programs that are getting the players, the good coaches, and
making things happen. Because Big East has got two amazing

(04:34):
teams right now in this season to my eye, and
then a whole lot of yuck well below what we're
seeing in the ACC.

Speaker 1 (04:40):
Yeah, I'm with you, man, Like it's that time of
year where the main screens are football and maybe for
me some playoff baseball. But I've got the college basketball
off in the periphery and I'm checking it here and
there because it's coming, and I do like what I'm
seeing in the ACC. But we will get back to
that probably in the next couple of weeks. What about
North Carolina Edwake Forest tomorrow Chip four point thirty on
the c dub are Buddy Wes Bryant's going to be

(05:01):
on the sidelines for that one. I people keep saying
this week, Hey Carolina is playing better. You know what,
Carolina going into what I like Wake in this one?

Speaker 2 (05:08):
Where's your head that it is one of the three
games that North Carolina has left where you you might
be playing the hottest team, but you're also playing a
team that you might not have to trade paint with.
What I mean by that is for North Carolina and
Bill Belichick obviously you're Wake duke in state. You're talking

(05:31):
about three games that mean a lot to Carolina fans,
the Carolina boosters, to Carolina lovedy like these are the
results that really you end up carrying into the winner
in the holiday season with your family, with your friends,
so on and so forth. So they're big ones, right.
Wake Forest does not have Darien Mensa. Wake Forest does
not have CJ. Bailey. North Carolina's strength is its defense,

(05:52):
you know, the special teams field positioned like play the
kind of game to hope that the other team makes
a mistake and then take advantage. They do not have
an offense right now that can march eighty five yards
down the field time and time again. NC State does.
Duke does, They've got dynamic quarterbacks. I don't think wake
Forest does.

Speaker 1 (06:11):
So.

Speaker 2 (06:11):
I think wake Forest is, you know, maybe the hotter
team you could, especially Duke coming off the Yukon lost. Jeez, yeah,
wake Forest might be the sort of hotter team playing
with confidence. But it is a game that I think
will be lower scoring. And then yet North Carolina will
have a chance. I think against Duke. I think against State,
there's a number that those two offenses can hit where

(06:33):
I just think that North Carolina fundamentally would really struggle
to keep off.

Speaker 1 (06:36):
Yeah, over under in that one thirty seven and a half,
our entire morning show here at FNZ picked at thirteen
to ten in one direction of the other. Tomorrow, so
we'll see. Let's go there, Virginia, Duke number nineteen team
in the country. Virginia sounding like Chandler Morris might be
able to go do be cause you mentioned coming off
the Yukon loss. Obviously a monstrous game in the ACC.
What do you think I.

Speaker 2 (06:58):
Think that this is a really good spot for Duke
because while the drop off from Chandler Morris to Daniel
Kalin was significant, I still thought that it was I
still thought it was a Virginia offense that continues to
lacks and teeth. I've been a little bit off on
this at least, you know, trying to predict when they
were going to be able to bounce back. But at

(07:19):
this point, I just don't think it's the same group
that was lighting up the scoreboard, filling up the stat
sheet in the first five, what four or five weeks
of the season. And so for that reason, I think
that Duke might be more prepared to play a kind
of zany game, because that seems to be all Duke's
do in these days, right, Like Duke is very ready

(07:40):
to do forty five, forty two, thirty eight, thirty five,
you know something like that. Sure, we've been in a
bunch of these one thumb lost some let's go. I
don't know if Virginia's got the horsepower for that kind
of game. So we'll see. It'll come down to Darry
and Mivinsa taking care of the ball. As long as
Darry Minson does take care of the ball. I like
Duke in this game, but obviously part of the darry
mental experience has been the risk of turnover.

Speaker 1 (08:02):
You mentioned Miami State at Miami Hurricanes favored by fourteen
and a half points. This doesn't on paper look like
one that's all that notable, But I think it was
your your colleague at CBS Sports Network, Aaron Taylor, who
said Miami should be worried about this game.

Speaker 2 (08:15):
What do you think? I think that I love Aaron Taylor.
I'll go ahead and just throw douat you, Rocks like
he's just he's the best. There is a storyline which
he might be aware of. I'm not positive, but you
probably are. I mean, this is this K Bailey homecoming game, right, Yeah? Yeah?

(08:37):
I mean this. You got a couple other boys from
Florida on that NC State roster that would love to
beat Miami, right Like, this is where Miami, through much
of its ACC history, has dealt with a target on
its back for being the you. You know, you could
argue it's a disadvantage, honestly, but there are a lot
of teams in the ACC that that really relish the opportunity.

(09:02):
And I think that CJ. Bailey and a couple of
these kids on the NC State roster are among that.
So yeah, they should be worried because this is a
group that can come in and score. And if Miami's
not you know, on its p's and q's, if Carson
Beck talk about turnovers, Carson Beck's turning the football over,
then yeah, Miami might find itself in a game that honestly,
it's not familiar with. It's been playing these lower scoring

(09:25):
ground and pounds, slow possession. You know, Mario Christovall is
going very pro style out here, and I think that
NC State could come in there and make them uncomfortable.
So I agree with Aaron. I think it's the spot
where Miami should be concerned. I think Miami should be okay,
just because NC State's defense away from home for much

(09:48):
of the season, the Pit game, the Notre Dame game,
I mean, it hadn't exactly been highlights, So being away
from Carter Finley has looked different than being in Carter
Finley where they just beat Georgia Tech. But yeah, of
course they're frisky. They just beat Charge of Tech.

Speaker 1 (10:01):
That's true. Ship, Well done as always, buddy, have a
great weekend. We'll do it again next Friday.

Speaker 2 (10:05):
Sounds good. You'll be well.
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