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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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Sports Radio ninety two seven wfn ZKB and smoke on
a Wednesday. We got two hours left on the air.
I do, anyway, not smoke after this show. Top of
the hour Hornets pre game at six. They have the
Bucks tonight at the Spectrum Center. No Joannison Tetacopo. He
will not play tonight. This is a quote unquote maintenance day.
The Bucks didn't say that, but that's how it's being reported,
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and it reads as if, well, he's a little nicked
up and we think we can get the Hornets without him.
So we got the game at seven o'clock tonight. No
LaMelo yet, although he practiced yesterday hopeful Friday against Milwaukee.
Don't think Brandon Miller's back anytime in the next couple
of weeks, but you know, maybe soon. And Conka Nipple
continuing to ball out. He climbed to the number one
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spot on the Kia Rookie Ladder this week. Over at
NBA dot com, which is a welcome site for Hornets
fans looking for positive vibes right now for this team
number one smoke on the Kiya Rookie Ladder for Conkak
nipple this week. All right, Philip has joined with mister.
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Mister seven oh four texted us and said, I don't
know what you guys don't understand. Bryce sucks. He's the problem.
His issues are the reason that this team is lacking
leadership right now, so on and so forth, to which
one Texter responded, I guess mister seven oh four doesn't
remember the Jimmy Clausen era of Panthers football. We got
one or two of those that came in. Philip, though,
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did back him up and says that he thinks we've
just been too nice and that he knew from day
one that Bryce was no good and that Sunday against
the Saints proved it. So we got a lot to
get to and we'll start with this. Is Roman Harper,
two time Pro Bowler, Super Bowl champion, former Saints and
Panther safety. Our buddy Rome is back with us on
a Wednesday afternoon. What's going on, mister Harper? Howard? Thanks Cole?
Speaker 3 (02:13):
What's up? Maybe I'm doing well? Man? I can't complain.
Speaker 4 (02:15):
I've seen Dave canals.
Speaker 3 (02:18):
In the last seventy two hours. I've also seen Charles
leading the last seventy two hours, So it's good luminaries. Yeah, man,
it's been good man and positive vibes all around. Despite
what everybody else thinks. It still is called the season
for a reason, and I think both of these teams
are in a different mindset of what they're trying to build.
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I think the Wonders that are playing a lot of
young guys, and I think they're the second youngest team
in the NBA right now. So you've got to take
the good with the bad. And when the players you're
actually trying to count on aren't healthy, that doesn't help
you either. So that's what the NBA is, and it's
tough and it's a grind, but this seems like the
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players are playing differently and playing harder, and so you
want to build upon the good that they're doing and
then try and correct the negative.
Speaker 2 (03:08):
Well, it seems clearly both teams are doing that right now,
and I do think that in the midst of a
season sometimes we can forget where they are big picture,
and I don't know, because that still brings arguments, especially
with the NFL, where there's a belief out there that
you should be able to get good, let's say, quicker
than you can in the NBA. Panthers are five and five,
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and again I'll use that phrase and some people will
roll their eyes, and that's fine. But if we told
you through ten games they'd be five and five, I
think a lot of folks would have signed up for that.
But it doesn't really make people feel better because of
the way the Saints game looked on Sunday, A one
to eight Saints team comes in here and their defense
shuts down. The run game, dars Bryce young to beat them,
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and Bryce in the passing game can't do that. What
were your major takeaways from that in particular.
Speaker 3 (03:58):
I'll get to that in a second. Tell you this overall, okay,
and this is just NFL terms, and I would tell
this to any Panthers fans and that Panthers team that
you are not good enough to take Sundays off or
address the game like, oh, I think we're just gonna
show up and win. You're not good enough. You're still
a team that's got to quote unquote get it out
the mud, you know, You're not good enough to think
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that you can just show up just because you beat
Green Bay. Because green Bay just showed up, anybody can
beat you anytime, any week on Sundays. That is ever
presalent and the same to have a good enough defense
they have and they let them hit them in deep,
big plays offensively, and you lose the turnable batter like
you're gonna lose that game all the time. It doesn't
matter what the logos look like or what the records
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are the NFL. There's too many good players out there.
And then to go to specifically about the lack of
offense and production in the past game by Bryce, I
think the out route was a terrible play. I thought
they didn't handle nickel pressure all day. Alonte Taylor was
in the backfield and he made a lot of good
plays for the Saints, disrupting all of the things that
they were trying to do offensively and run and end
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in the past, and once Bryce started getting hit that
started to affect him. I thought the old line did
not play well at all. So you got that combination
of all those things breaking down at the same time,
and your quarterback's coming off of a high ankle spring
where he has been most effective when he's able to
move within the pocket, create extend place for these wide
receivers who aren't veteran guys that are still learning how
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to be pros themselves in an offense that we're still
trying to build out or figure out what this personality is,
especially when your team is not running the football well,
which we've all known that is the formula for winning
for this team. So trying to win a different way
than what you've done the previous couple weeks with a
quarterback who now you're dependent on, that's not coming off
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of high ankle spraining, that may not be one hundred percent.
So I'm not here to make excuses. I'm just here
to tell you the truth. And it's unfortunate because you
lose against the Saints, but you're exactly where you think
I think this team is supposed to be at. They're
at five hundred, which I would not have thought they
have been out. I thought this team would win seven
eight games. They're kind of ahead of that. So people
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are gonna take it out they want to take it,
But at the end of the day, it's kind of
exactly his team at in roster wise, they're not good
enough Kyle to just show up and beat anybody.
Speaker 2 (06:13):
Did you Because it's interesting you're saying that because Ikyakwanu,
J T. Sanders, and Nick Scorton pretty much all came
out and said it Sunday and the Monday. We didn't
have a great week of practice. You know, we weren't
as meticulous and prepared as we should have been. And
I know Dave Canalis doesn't want that stuff being talked
about outside the building necessarily. Is I mean, did you
just spot it on the field? Have you talked to people?
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Is that just something you noticed during the game, Hey,
Carolina does not look ready to play.
Speaker 3 (06:40):
Well, they came It looked like they came out flat.
And so when you come out flat versus a team
that's probably not as good as you, you make them
feel like they have a chance to teach you. You
give them confidence, and then that's all they need. Then
they're off and running. I lost the game to Minnesota
in twenty fourteen. He gave up two punt blocks versus
a team that didn't even want to be out there.
It was freezing cold, nobody wanted to be there. He
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definitely did, and then all of a sudden you give
them life, makes you know they want to play, and
they win the game. So that happens all the time,
every week, even in the NFL, especially late in the season.
So that happens. But when you hear the rookies talking,
I think Nick Gordon, I think somebody needs to say, hey,
look dude, it's the way to address things. And I
don't want to hear a rookie's name in the media
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except for him doing good things. It's a level to it.
And I think older guys in that locker room have
to come around and love on this guy. Come from
a place of sternness, but with love that is coming
from a place of love. So we don't lose the
kids because he's coming. You want him to practice the
right way, and what he's saying is not wrong. I
just don't need to hear from you. And so you
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ain't earned enough stripes to be able to do that.
And guys need to understand that and then with it
keep fano. I mean, at least they're being honest about it.
Now it's up to them. Coaches can't beg guys to
play hard and show it with the right attitude. They're
all professionals. That's a player's dilemma. That's not on coaches.
You got to be ultimate pros and you got to
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have the guys that are pros in that room step
up and get that handled. So these things are not
being said outside of the locker room, and if they are,
then we got to get rid of some guys and
you got to figure out what's going to work best,
because ultimately you're going to be judged upon how many
games you win and lose as a coaching staff. And
I gotta fire you before they fire me.
Speaker 2 (08:21):
I hear you, and I'm glad you said that because
I've heard Dave say it. Obviously, coaches have to take
the ultimate level of accountability. But Dave said, hey, the
best teams are player led teams, and you got to
find that leadership and that drive within the locker room.
And I appreciate you pointing that out. Roman Harper hanging
out with us here on a Wednesday, let me ask
you some college football questions here. We were talking earlier
about this, like big picture stuff. Tom Logan Bill was
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on this morning with Mack and Bone, and he was
making the point that you know, hey, we got a
lot of one score games in college football. This year,
the talent's more dispersed because of NIL. Guys aren't sitting,
they're going elsewhere for the money, so the talent's more
spread out. I know Kirby Smart has made this argument
or this claim earlier this year as well. A couple
of years ago, when all the NIL stuff started, there
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were a lot of people saying, Oh God, the rich
are just gonna get richer. The rich are only gonna
get richer. Roman, I don't know if that's true. A
couple of years later, what do you think.
Speaker 3 (09:12):
I know it's not true. The talent has this first
guys aren't going to be the third corner. They'll go
somewhere else and start. So when the first one gets
hurt or something happens, the depth is the lack of
depth is shown. And so that's why Georgia's defense they're
playing a lot of freshmen and sophomores because they don't
have the juniors. You know, the seniors are no longer there,
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So that part of it, or the backup seniors that
would have been a fourth or fifth year guy who's
been in your program for four years, they're no longer there.
So that part of it is true that part has
made the game more fun. I appreciate it because it's
so competitive on a week to week basis, and any
team can win, especially in the SEC when you don't
play your a game, and it will continue to balance
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yourself out. You look at the ACC, whether it's good
or as bad, everybody looks about the same and anybody
can beat anybody. I think it's just made it more
more balanced, and I kind of appreciate it. The ACC
is going to get punished this year for it, but
that's also because their middle tier and bottom tier teams
have not been good as well, So everybody's just got
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to win as many game as they can. And I
like it, Kyle, Honestly, I really like it. I really
really do.
Speaker 2 (10:20):
I've enjoyed it. I mean, I'm not gonna lie. I mean, listen,
ratings are huge, and some people will attribute that to
gambling and the prevalence of it, and I think there's
definitely some truth to that, but I think.
Speaker 3 (10:30):
Overall basketball that's basketball.
Speaker 2 (10:33):
Yeah, i'd say basketball is in a very different place
right now because of it. But yeah, I'm with you
on that. Roman Harper hanging out with us here, and
I think again. The game is in a good place
now since we're talking about the playoff. We've got another
twelve team playoff coming up here very soon. We're almost
already finished with the regular season, which makes me sad.
But are we going to sixteen? Should we go to
sixteen teams? Does that make everything better?
Speaker 3 (10:55):
No, I don't think it is. Like I think, keep
it where it is. We don't need any more four teams.
Like I just think the separation from one to sixteen
or from like one, like one through six, I think
are gonna be really really good and they can beat anybody.
Then you're gonna have seven and eight well, I mean ten, eleven, twelve, eight, nine, ten, Like,
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I think those are all gonna be a little bit closer.
And then ultimately I think you're gonna have two or
three teams in there that can't touch other team's cleats.
And so if we go to sixteen, you're gonna have
five teams in there that can't touch anybody's cleats. Also, Kyle,
from just a player's health perspective, I don't want these
kids playing more and more games. I just don't want
to see it. I think they're gonna play enough football
as they continue to progress in life, and just every
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down that you're out there, you're risking it, and you know,
you never know. You know, the Willis McGahee story, like
it worked out for him, but how many other people
does it not work out for? And so I'm just
always aware of that. I'm always conscious of that. And
so that's also my perspective is that I played in college.
When you play ten eleven games, now they're up to
like fifteen or six, and I think that's a lot.
Speaker 2 (12:01):
Talk to our buddy Ryan McGee yesterday and I asked him,
who do you think is the most overlooked team in
the top twelve of the rankings in college football? And
without missing a beat, without any hesitation, he said, Texas
A and M and they've got South Carolina this week.
Why do you think that is? I mean, they're nine
to oh six and zero in the SEC. They're a
big brand, they have lots of money to spend. But
it does feel like nobody really wants to talk about him.
Speaker 3 (12:24):
I was gonna say why that is, because it's exactly
what you just said. Are you surprised like nobody talks
about him? And a lot of it is because I'll
tell you why you should talk about him. They're ferocious
on defense, they got a real weapon up front, and
Casius Howell all right, I love watching him play and
he talks trash to everybody college, so I like that
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he's talking reckless to people out there. So I like
that part of it too, especially out of my d lineman.
And then they forced a lot of turnovers. Marcel Reid
and his offense is explosive with two extremely good wide
receivers Mario Craver and Casey she Owned, the former the
Charlotte native, that former NC State player that is making
big waves there in the SEC this year where they're
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in the return game and as a wide receiver, and
they have a really good run game with a solid
offensive line and I think it's the only offensive line
in the SEC that has started every game together. So
you're talking about blue wind jail. They have that part
of it too, so the ability to be able to
run the football and they need to throw it however
they need to at times. And then defensively they don't
allow I think they're number one in the FBS that
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only allow on twenty four percent on conversion rates on
third down, so you're not converting a lot. So they're
playing great complimentaring football, offense, defense, special teams, and Kyle
they're just kicking tail. They really are. And they got
a great coach at Mike Elko. And the biggest reason
why nobody's talking about him is because Texas A and
M and all the curses of the past texting them
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has never won the big game. They've never been in
a championship situation where they have to do these things.
And because we're not used to seeing that, or we
always hesitate to say, oh well, it still is just
Texas A and M. Then that's why we're not talking
about them enough. But they're going to have their opportunities.
They need to get into the SEC championship game. They
need to win it.
Speaker 2 (14:08):
You know, there are a lot of us sitting around
who whose college football teams are no longer relevant in
the twenty twenty five season at all. Not that mine
never was, but wait until me, wait not you, but
waiting for their programs to hire new head coaches. And
you know, Lane Kiffin appears to be the bell of
the ball in what's already a wild coaching carousel cycle.
Does he need a different job or is he better
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suited staying at Ole Miss in your mind, I don't.
Speaker 3 (14:32):
Think he needs a different job. I think Lane Kimmen
has reached a place where you can't put a monetary
value on happiness. You know, he is the same coach
that got fired on the tarmac, that didn't even get
to go into office with his USC. And then he
is the same coach that left in the middle of
the night leaving Knoxville, right, So like he's been through
all the He also got fired in the NFL as
an early teacher, So he has been around the block.
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And it's it's weird when you see it because I
just saw watching this son. I was in Starkville last week.
He led his team in the playoffs as a quarterback
at Oxford High School. They beat Start Building the playoffs
last week, and so like you're getting these big highs
and joys outside of just what you're doing on a
day to day basis, inside of the inside of that building.
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I think he means a lot to the city and
town and the people of Oxford. I'd be really intrigued
if he actually left him for what job because the
LSU everybody keeps telling me how great of a job
that is, but too bad. I can't talk about anything
about the job. I can only talk about all the
smoke outside that's going on because of the small embers
and flames that can't get put out on that campus,
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as far as trying to hire a coach and get
it off cleaned up, so that makes that job less attractive.
And then you got Florida, Like, do you really want
to go to Florida? Not only that, but at LSU
you gotta win a championship in the first four years
or that's a fail too, because that's what the precedent is.
And so at Florida, is it really as great of
a job as we say it is? We say it is,
But does Lane want to do that when he can
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still just win nine games and they still love him.
Where Florida you win nine games back to back years,
it's like, is he really paying off? And so when
you're able to build the own culture versus coming in
and then trying to recreate teardown kind of have the
sins and the burdens of the past and have to
carry those two versus the ole miss you don't have
to do that. It'd be interesting. I don't think he
goes anywhere.
Speaker 2 (16:17):
I'm with you, all right, last thing, and it's just
a fun question. I'm going to put you on the
spot a little bit. We started the show like I
was having some conversations with the boys the other night.
We were just strolling down memory Lane Sports Edition and
just talking about guys who they don't get enough credit
for how good they were back in the day, you know,
and that doesn't have to be like fifties, sixties, seventies,
but you know, athletes who we maybe have kind of
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forgotten about, but you know, we're fantastic. They're not the
Hall of Fame type, but they were incredible players. One
of the names that I came up with was Priest
Holmes in Kansas City and his unbelievable, you know, three
year run there. Jason Williams White Chocolate came up, a bunch,
we had guys like who else? We had, oh, Rip
Hamilton with the Detroit Pistons come in. Is there a
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guy I'll say that you played against in your your career,
especially in the NFL, that you look back and think
people don't appreciate just how good this guy was.
Speaker 3 (17:09):
So the original thought, Susan, you mentioned this thing comes
into my head. I think of basketball, I think of
Glenn Rice. I don't like that. I love Glenn Rice.
And then as a football player, somebody that I played
against that what I thought was just so good that
doesn't get enough love. It's probably it's probably either Stephen
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Stephen Jackson or the Saint Louis Rams when he was rolling, Yeah,
because nobody wanted to tackle that dude, and the teams sucked,
but he was.
Speaker 4 (17:41):
Like really dang good, like nobody wanted to hit that guy.
And then Michael Turner, the running back for the Atlanta
Malcolms for a couple of years, Yeah, that was really good.
And no, and he was running through everybody too in
that offense that they had too, So like that was
another one I would say.
Speaker 3 (17:57):
And I don't know if the Angel will Williams gets
enough love here, because to me, he was the better
back out of him and Jay Stu. Jay Stu. Of
course I appreciate Jay stew and loved him, not no
knock on him, but D'Angelo Williams had the ability to
house call it in cribbit so much. He was really
really dang good for these guys. We always worried about
him more than Jay Stu. I don't know why, but
we we really had our mark on d'anzel Williams not
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let him go.
Speaker 2 (18:20):
But I've kept you long enough. But that Steven Jackson
answer made me smile. That dude was a monster. He
was fantastic at his job. Man, he was so good.
All right, buddy, listen to.
Speaker 3 (18:29):
My KB Happy birthday, Happy belated birthday. And I saw
guys create angles when trying to tackle. Stephen Jackson made
it up like, dude, that's not even where you were going.
I just missed it bad angler, you know, created anglish.
Speaker 2 (18:44):
Uh, you're the best, buddy. Thank you, save travels this weekend.
We'll talk to you soon. Thank b There you go,
Roman Harper for hanging out with us again. Hit us
on the text line seven O four five seven ninety
six ten. We just got to you know, it's kind
of like that game we do where we rattle off
random baseball players, and baseball players are welcome in the conversation.
But the athlete of the bygone era, and it could
have been ten years ago that you think was just
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doesn't get enough credit historically for how good they were.
That Stephen Jackson answer made me smile, We'll come back
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Smoke Late on a Wednesday. The sun's going down, but
the Hornets are back at it tonight at the Spectrum Center,
Milwaukee Bucks in Town. No Joannis, he's gonna sit this
one out. No LaMelo or Brandon Miller either. So the Hornets,
I think it's fair to say they've they've got a
chance to win this game. I wouldn't bank on it,
but they got a chance to win the game. Smoke right,
That's how we're looking at this. How confident are you
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that the Hornets can be in it in the fourth quarter?
Speaker 3 (20:00):
In it?
Speaker 5 (20:00):
In it, I'd say about eighty percent confident, really especial.
Speaker 2 (20:04):
I mean, if they just knock out the turnovers.
Speaker 5 (20:06):
They played a better team just two nights ago, and
they almost they should have won if they didn't turn
the ball over twenty three times.
Speaker 2 (20:12):
That's true, that's true. I will I'll also point out
to your argument there the line opened at five and
a half in favor of Milwaukee. It has since shrank
down to two and a half. How about that. I
mean the Yannis News clearly has something to do with that.
I would think. So Milwaukee as of right now is
a two and a half point favorite in this game.
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You know, no Giannis again, but they got some dudes.
I mean, Ryan Rollins is a good player now. I
think there was a Texter earlier in the show that
was like, hey, you know, watch out for this kid.
He's good and if you didn't watch a ton of
Toledo basketball you might not know that. But he's averaging
sixteen and a half points per game. So you know,
Ryan Rollins is a good player. I don't think he's
going well, let me just not say that. You know.
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Hornet Killer's list, come on, I know, I know, but
I mean, without having seen their most up dated injury report,
Milwaukee's that is, I would expect you're gonna see Ryan Rollins,
Miles Turner, Kyle Kuzma. Speaking of hornet skillers, who I
don't know. Does he make the list yet? Does do
we count Kyle Kuzma as a Hornet Skiller at this point?
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He's had some good games. Did he drop like thirty
four on him once? Last year?
Speaker 5 (21:18):
I believe yeah, that might constitute him. I think at
the very least he's on the waiting list. He's waiting
to get in.
Speaker 2 (21:25):
But yeah, Aj Green, Gary Trent Junior Cole Anthony Bobby Portis.
Of course. I mean you've got names like that, so
you know it's I don't know. I just I feel
bad for Hornets fans or really anybody who's going to
this game tonight. Somebody told me that you can get
secondary market tickets for nine dollars. Right now, I haven't
verified that. I don't know if it's true. Maybe we'll
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check during the break, but I just this is one
of those games too where LaMelo's hurt, Brandon's hurt. I
don't think there's any doubt about that. LaMelo's trying to
get back. We'll be back soon, I think. But no, Johannis,
I mean they're talking about this being like a I mean,
cbspor it's called it a maintenance game. Think about how
many fans paid ticket paid for tickets, and it's never
a guarantee, but think about, you know, not to be
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populis sports talk radio host KB again, but we think
about how many hardworking people saved up, bought these tickets
as Christmas presents or whatever else. Want to take their
kids to see LaMelo and b Mill and certainly Giannis
on a night like this, and you're not getting any
of them on a Wednesday evening. Yeah, it definitely does suck.
Speaker 5 (22:23):
And now you have to look at the idea of
what's LaMelo's strategy. I don't even know if he plays Friday,
because Friday is the first night of a back to back,
because then they come back home on Saturday to take
on OKC. Yeah, so but it's either at or LaMelo
plays on Friday, but he doesn't play on Saturday at
home against SGA, the only time people will get to
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see SGA in the thunder in town this year.
Speaker 2 (22:48):
Yeah, yeah, I don't know. I mean, it's just a bummer.
It's got to be a bummer for a lot of people.
Nine oh six numbers said, stay a man of the people.
I'm not going anywhere. I just I don't want to
beat people over the head with that all the time
because I I don't know. But it's how I feel like.
There are a lot of hard working parents out there
that are, you know, working to buy tickets and you're
hoping to see LaMelo and Giannis and Tedtakumpo in a
game like this and you're just not going to get it,
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so you know, again that's the risk you run. We
all understand sports guys get hurt. But the honest thing,
the maintenance, the load management, they're gonna do what they're
gonna do. But that's things for the fans. It really
does seven oh four five, seven oh ninety six to
ten on the the issue of, or rather the topic of,
you know, guys who don't get enough credit for how
good they were back in the day. That was a
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big topic of conversation to at the start of the show, right,
guys who just don't get enough credit for how good
they were back in the day, Guys that have been
forgotten who might not be Hall of Fame gold jacket
level players, but we're really really good back in the day.
And you know, time is marched on and we haven't
forgotten about them entirely, but they don't ever get talked
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about very much anymore. And the text line blew up
and this round of answers, I mean, as good as
the first one was, this next round of an also fantastic,
maybe even better seven o four numbers, said thunder Dan Marley,
Did you even really get to see much of Dan Marley.
You didn't digit back in the day, but you've seen
the old the old games. I mean, thunder Dan Marley,
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that guy, I mean would just stick a three in
your face, really a couple of them, and then went
out for a couple of Bud heavies after the game.
I'm sure Dan Marley was the man Brandon Jacobs of
the New York Giants has come in that love it.
I've both yeah. I mean we were talking to Roman
Harper in the previous segment and Roman we asked him
this question. I did, and he immediately came up with
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a handful of running backs. That Steven Jackson answer was
just awesome, because I he might be the perfect example
of what we're talking about. I've probably said that five
times since we started this conversation, but he's one of them.
I mean, the guy played at Oregon State and you know,
was a good player in college, so much so that
he became a first round pick. He was twenty fourth
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overall out of Oregon State. But his run in Saint
Louis with the Ram I mean, he was a two
time All Pro, three time pro bowler. He was a
third team All American twice at Oregon State, by the way.
Speaker 5 (25:07):
And he was all they had in Saint Louis because
that's it by that point. His rookie ear was the
last time they made a playoffs until twenty sixteen. Yes,
Bolger's best years were behind him, and Holton Bruce were
either gone or were washed.
Speaker 2 (25:22):
It was just Stephen Jackson, Steven and he was an
animal man like six two two forty running the way
that he did. You met him, you didn't want to
meet him in the hole. I never did. Gave me nightmares,
but like Steven Jackson was a great, great, great answer.
Speaking of running backs, a couple of people have said
Robert Smith seven oh four numbers, said Robert Smith. He
retired relatively early, and it's easy to forget about him
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among Randy Moss, Chris Carter, Randall Cunningham slash Dante Culpepper.
But he was an All Pro and a fifteen hundred
yard rusher in his final season. Was he thirty when
he retired relatively young around that time. Yes, the spin doctor,
the spin doctor, who I mean, is he still doing commentary?
I think no?
Speaker 5 (26:01):
Is he not not for NFL football at least? Okay,
because he was working with Chris Myers and now.
Speaker 2 (26:06):
That's right, but I think he's still doing some big
ten network stuff. It would shock because he went to
Minnesota No.
Speaker 3 (26:13):
No.
Speaker 2 (26:13):
In college Ohio State. He played at Ohio State y
but I mean he was second team All Pro, made
a couple of Pro Bowls. It's a great answer. I
think Robert Smith is definitely a good answer. There eight
six four numbers, said Delaney Walker with the Titans tight end.
That's a really good one too. Let's see Mike Alstatt
one of our favorites from our number one as well.
We had a few Mike all Stotts. As a matter
of fact, a couple of Peyton Hillis's too. We have
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Hornets fans coming with Big Al slash bobcats Gerald Wallace.
They get credit around here, but certainly not nationally. Oh
oh for the running back slash fullback folks, Dick Stockton said.
Lorenzo O'Neil, Oh, Lorenzo O'Neil. When's the last time we
had Lorenzo on the show? By the way, it's been
a while, hasn't it a couple of years? Yeah, I
think we got to get Lorenzo butt. No, we won't
have a reason to this year. I'm sure, but Lorenzo's
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fun to talk to. Uh gwatch said Andrew Luck on
the text line does he qualify?
Speaker 5 (27:04):
No, because I think we all know how talented he was.
It's just it got squandered in Indianapolis.
Speaker 2 (27:08):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, Ryan Grigson, I don't know that, Andrew
Luck is it fits on this fluke juke. He gave
the answer that I gave to start the show, and
that was, you know, one of the running back variety.
It feels like a lot of running backs are getting
credit right now, and I'm completely fine with that. But
Fred Taylor down in Jacksonville, I mean, that guy ran
for you know, just he's like a game or two
away from twelve thousand yards. It was eleven six ninety five.
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He has more career rushing yards than Earl Campbell and
OJ Simpson. But Fred Taylor, outside of his podcast rarely
gets discussed. I think modern day among the great running
backs of his era, even though he absolutely should be
discussed among the great running backs of his era.
Speaker 5 (27:46):
And I also think being in Jacksonville and also being
a quiet guy doesn't help him. That's true since that's
because even when you listen to him on the podcast.
It's like you have to turn the volume up like
two or three notches just to hear him because he's
just a quiet guy. Yeah, that's true. Was damn good
Darren Sprolls. Darren Sprolls has appeared on the text line
quite a few times today, undersized obviously who he was
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smaller than MJD, wasn't he?
Speaker 2 (28:10):
Yes, well, definitely didn't have the girth to am I wrong.
Definitely didn't have the girth, but yeah, I mean in
a little smaller. Darren Sprolls though one of the most
productive all purpose backs in the hitting maybe the most
productive all.
Speaker 5 (28:27):
Purpose gadget backs. Yeah, I definitely think he's definitely up there.
And I'll go ahead and say this the Saints. I
was thinking about this last week. The Saints have had
a very underrated running back history. Okay, George Rogers in
the early eighties, yep, South Carolina legend actually had a
really good run there before he went to Washington and
won a Super Bowl. Earl Campbell wasn't the same Earl
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Campbell there, but you had Earl Campbell, you had Ironhead Craig,
Ironhead Hayward for a little bit yep, and then you
from the two thousands on, You've had a lot of
really good guys, Deuce McAllister, Ricky Williams, Reggie Bush ahead
of his time, Pierre Thomas, darren Sprolls, as you mentioned,
mark Ingram Latavius Murray. Murray was like, you've just had
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a lot of really good backs. No guys that will
be like, oh, absolute Hall of Fame stuff, but just
a lot of really good backs.
Speaker 2 (29:15):
And I don't think he gets mentioned that much. I agree.
Can I give you a basketball one that I've been
holding on to since the three o'clock hour? Tom Chambers No,
I just saw that come in on the text line.
It's not Tom Chambers, though, that is a great answer.
I think you're gonna like this one, you ready. Tim Hardaway.
Tim Hardaway the U TEP two step, remember that the
UTEP two He played at UTEP. For anybody who doesn't
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know the U TEP two step, I mean, Alan Iverson
gets credit for the greatest crossover in NBA history, but
before Ai, Tim Hardaway was snapping ankles on the regular.
He averaged twenty to ten at his peak in the NBA,
and his son's done a really good job in his
career too. He sure has not as good as his dad.
But well then, yeah, and you know, maybe Tim Hardaway
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gets thought of more of his broadcasting career turns out
a little bit better. But Tim Hardaway was a much
better basketball for us for interview.
Speaker 3 (30:06):
Show.
Speaker 2 (30:06):
I forgot about that. Yeah, but yeah, Tim Hardaway the
UTEP two step I mean, at his peak averaged twenty
and ten in the NBA. A few more of these. Oh,
Mark Price came in, Yeah, Mark Price, that's I mean,
somebody called him Steph Curry before Steph Curry. I don't
know about all that. No, No, jeez, he was an
elite shooter. We'll put it that way.
Speaker 5 (30:26):
I'll mention another Georgia tech guy, and he's actually going
to be doing games with Westerm this year on the
ACC Network.
Speaker 2 (30:31):
Dennis Scott than maybe way ahead.
Speaker 5 (30:34):
Of his time. Man, imagine him in today's NBA. How
long was he in Orlando?
Speaker 2 (30:37):
Like five or six years? Was that it? Yeah? Okay,
I couldn't remember how long he was in Orlando, But
I'm I'm looking forward to him and westernm who I
think West is back with Mack and Bone later this week.
Maybe that'll come up but yeah, he was. He was
really really good back in the day. Bobby Trimmin's baby,
absolutely all right. A couple of baseball ones came in.
Bernie Williams with the Yankees. I don't think with him
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being in the Hall of Fame rings, I don't know
if we can say that about him, can we say?
I mean, when you got four rings? Can we?
Speaker 5 (31:06):
I mean, I guess I'll go back to mentioning Yankees.
If you're gonna mention Yankees, Don maddingly has to make
the list. Okay, Okay, I like, I think he's the
most underrated not in New York. But it just it
still ticks me off that he's not in the Hall
of Fame. And that was the one downside to the
Blue Jay's not winning the World Series, because if the
Blue Jays would have won, he would have finally gotten
his ring. Okay, and he retired right before the Yankees
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started their dynasty. And even in that the one postseason
he had against the Mariners in ninety five, he was
absolute dynamite in that series.
Speaker 2 (31:37):
I agree. Oh and you know what, in honor of
the Hornets playing the Bucks tonight, this one just came in.
I want to say it. You know what I'm gonna say,
don't you great? Nope, not gonna say. I knew you'd
say Michael Redd. If I asked you who your favorite
random Bucks player was, I know you'd say Michael Redd.
Correat we played this thing before. No, no, no, I'm thinking
of a of a native of the Carolinas with the
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Milwaukee Bucks. You ready, yeah? Hit me, Alex English. Alex
English came in. That's a really good one. Back to baseball,
just because I want to stay there for a second.
You'll appreciate this one. A guy who I think is
historically underappreciated. He's been out of the game for a while,
a good long while. Now. Jim Edmonds, Oh my god,
guess yes, Oh my god, center field, be gentle with
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my own heart, with your How long do you think
the montage of diving catches from Jim Edmonds would be
if you put them all together.
Speaker 5 (32:26):
Fifteen minutes? Well, I don't think it's that long. I
think at least five or six minutescause I.
Speaker 2 (32:30):
Felt like Jim Edmonds was on freaking web gyms every
single night during the summer during that era. Dude, especially
in the early to mid two thousands, like I grew up.
Speaker 5 (32:39):
It was Look, Pooholes got all the attention, But for me,
I'm like, oh Edmunds, Baby, look at that cat's out
in centerfield, diving out there. He is one of the
best center defensive center fielders in the history of the game.
And he hit three hundred ninety three career home runs.
I'll go ahead and say this because his career got
cut short due to injuries. But speaking to center fielders,
I got to mention my man, Grady size more.
Speaker 1 (33:00):
Hmm.
Speaker 2 (33:00):
Oh, he had some web gems in his short career too.
Speaker 3 (33:02):
Man.
Speaker 5 (33:03):
The injury Bucks sucks sometimes because Grady Sizemore was that
dude and was going to be that dude for a while.
He was supposed to be a face of a franchise
for Cleveland for years to come.
Speaker 2 (33:12):
All right, real quick, oh, my guy, aj this one
will make me make you smile. Monte Ellis speaking of
the Bucks. Monte Ellis just came in, Dude.
Speaker 5 (33:20):
Remember how pissed they got in Golden State when they
traded him away. They booed Joe lacup to the point
where they're like, calm down. Little did they know they
had Steph Curry there.
Speaker 2 (33:29):
We got to end this. I could do this all day,
but this is why I love the text line. In
a span of three and a half seconds, four different
people said ken kammanitty all at the same time. Imagine
that many people at the same time thinking ken kammanitti
as we're talking about athletes who historically don't get their
due for how good they were in their prime. Eddie Jones, Yes,
Eddie Jones, n Yes. Last one, My guy Reggie texted
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me and said, by the way, don't forget about Nick
van Exel, one of the first step back Kings at Cincinnati. Oh,
Nick van Exel. You know it's a good day when
you get a Nick van Xell mentioned on the show.
All right, let's go to smoke on the headlines.
Speaker 5 (34:05):
All right, As you mentioned Kyle earlier today, no Jannis
for the lineup as he's dealing with a little maintenance
problem in the latest is all changed. Yeah, you're not
gonna take too long, but the latest with the Hornets.
Ryan Kalchbrenner, who just became a dad, will be available
for tonight's game. I think a big benefit of this
being it's at home. If it happened on Friday, I
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don't think he'll be able to play in Milwaukee, but
he is available. Pat Connittson available, Collins Sexton available, kJ
Simpson available. So all the guys that were questionable or
probitable are officially available for tonight's game. And I do
want to mention, as Kyle, I saw this happen and
it's been a discussion recently in the MLS. The MLS
owners in the next couple of weeks are going to
be voting on moving the season start time starting in
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twenty twenty seven. Per Tom Bogert, MLS owners are expected
to vote tomorrow on moving to a fall spring season
that would line up with all the other soccer league
the major soccer leagues across the world. The switch could
happen as soon as twenty twenty seven, with possible changes
to competition format, including a single league table not two
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league tables, which would include divisions.
Speaker 2 (35:14):
Kyle, you've got your hands up. What does I just
have a question? Teacher? Thank you? Does this mean that
they would just play back to back seasons? Like how
do you make that switch? And I'm just ignorant to this,
Like what do you do? Do you just play twenty
twenty six, the regular way, and then you just roll
into a brand new season in twenty twenty seven. How
does that work?
Speaker 5 (35:29):
I guess you would just do twenty twenty six per usual,
and then you go nearly twelve months without playing? Is
that how you know what's hiverer at orre you giving?
You can't go twelve months without playing, it's hier to
at or you go two months. But you gotta think
about it. The season ends in late November early December.
The playoffs are still ongoing right now in the MLS,
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So there's only one way you can do it unless
you completely shorten the season in twenty twenty six twenty
twenty seven.
Speaker 2 (35:54):
But you're losing money if you just skip a season.
Nobody's signing up for losing money, you know what I mean?
Have the decisions to MLS have made with their business model.
What do you need to do? You temporarily expand the
roster so that you can play just continuous, back to
back seasons to get on a new schedule, that is,
if it gets approved. Right. I'm just fascinated by this, Like,
how do you make that switch and do that? All right,
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we'll come back, We'll wrap up the show. Sports Radio
ninety two to seven wfn Z, Hey one Final Time
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Sports Radio ninety two seven wfn Z Little stroll down
Memory Lane and a fun one. Based on the reactions
and submissions on the fan duel text line, we have
a lot of big days on the text line. This
has to rank up there as one of the biggest,
with people just firing in submissions on the all time
great athletes who have been forgotten about, guys who don't
get enough credit for how good they were at their peak,
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and other different ways to this. You know, some would
call it the Hall of very Good. I'm not quite
sure that we're talking about it in those terms. You know,
just players who had, you know, a stretch of greatness
that has been forgotten his time March is on and
I think guys like Priest Holmes in Kansas City, as
we talked about earlier, are great examples of that. We
had Jeremy Shockey come in. Kendall Gill is also one
of my favorites on the text line here today, and
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then Panther Bow of course hit us with this and
I know you'll like it. The nostalgia's hitting like Harry
Gant's skull bandits on the text line it is. It's nostalgic.
It's a stroll down memory lane. Glad you mentioned him too,
because Harry Ganton too. Muster now going into the NASCAR
Hall of Fame. Finally, Oh yeah, I mean Kurt Busch.
That's that's a loaded class yep. Anthony Mason came in.
While he's Zerbiak, not a. He said bad spelling. It
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was close though. I'm pretty sure that's very close to
It's not an easy name to spell, but I think
you might even have it right. Lafonso Ellis, Luke Ridenauer
came in. I mean, look at these names, man, Andy
Vance like, it's great. These is so good. I appreciate. Oh,
Mike Lowell came in. Now that's you're a socks fan,
you have to appreciate the Mike Lowell mentioned right, two
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thousand and seven World Series MVP, Mike lowl I'm so good.
So it also won the World Series with the Marlins. Absolutely, yeah, yeah, yeah,
all right, we have to go no rewind today. Just
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Speaker 5 (38:40):
That was a moment where you let the you let
the adults talk and the kids have to stay to
the side. It's funny because I brought that up because
I knew the veterans would not like that.
Speaker 2 (38:51):
I just know that's that's it. I knew the veterans
wouldn't like it. But we've had so many texts on
the text line from listeners and fans saying, oh, I
hate that, that's ridicul He's just saying that. He's just
calling it like he sees it. He's just telling the
truth as again he is, And even Roman Harper admitted
that he's not lying. It's just there's a there's a hierarchy,
is a pecking order, there's a chain of command, if
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you will, inside the locker room and veterans do not
expect rookies to be, you know, talking to the media
like that about what's going on inside the locker room.
And he'll get it. He'll get it.
Speaker 5 (39:19):
I wouldn't be shocked if he's eventually going to be
one of those guys having to tell a rookie just
shut up.
Speaker 2 (39:23):
Eventually down the line too. Yeah, I'm with you. I'll
preemptively tip my cap to the Hornets. Let's go play
well tonight. Speaking of that Hornets pregame coming up in
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