November 11, 2025 • 41 mins
In the 3rd hour of the show, Kyle and Smoke look into what happens if the problems surrounding Bryce Young don't get fixed, and if there is an answer in the draft, or not.
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We got a lot more to get to. I want
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I'm going to leave that for a later date. How
about that, Well, I'll leave that alone, and let's get
to Al Wallace, former Panthers defensive end, who is here
to talk about the Carolina Panthers, which does not sound
like a pleasant conversation A mere forty eight hours removed
from a massive let down, one of the biggest letdowns,
and many of you have said this on the text
line the last twenty four hours that you think it's
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the biggest letdown that you've ever seen at Bank of
America Stadium, which might be a little bit of recency bias,
but I also think it belongs on the on the
list in terms of just big spots. Everybody else in
the division's losing. You've got a chance to create distance
between yourself and the Falcons and pulled it within a
half game of the Bucks. And you just lay an
egg at home against a one and eight now two
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and eight Saints team. And Al Wallace has been through
it all in the NFL, and he's back with us
to talk about it here in the five o'clock hour. Al,
what's going on?
Speaker 2 (02:33):
Brother?
Speaker 3 (02:33):
I appreciate the time.
Speaker 4 (02:35):
Oh what's up, man? How's it going? I had the birthday?
Speaker 3 (02:37):
Appreciate it, man, appreciate it. It's you know, it's good.
You know, we're talking sports for a living, so it's
never bad. But Panthers fans aren't exactly having a great
time this week. I didn't get to sit with you
in the press box on Sunday, so I missed you.
I don't know what the I'm sure I know kind
of what the vibe was like. Up there on Sunday.
It just kind of felt dead watching it on TV,
and it still felt going into the fourth quarter like
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they had a chance, but this time it just kept
the ball back out. Like how disappointing was that performance
and how big a letdown was it?
Speaker 4 (03:05):
Yeah, I think it was a big letdown, Kyle, and
I actually did not sit in the press box. My
son had his final games and the playoffs in his
Black Football League, so I opted out. I put this
one on auto polit I assume that thing, like many
of the Panthers fans, with the way this team has
been playing over the last four or five weeks, that
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you go in and you take care of the one
game on the schedule that you're supposed to win, and
you don't have a lapse, You don't appear to have
a you know, no leadership in that locker room, no
leadership at the top. When you go out and put
a performance up like that, it was inexcusable and very disappointing.
As I sat out there with some of the other
fans and the dads at Black Football while this thing
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was going on, just could not believe it. Just absolutely
stunned in the division alone, no matter what the records
are that you wouldn't be ready for this opportunity to
kind of continue need a momentum that this team is
built over the last month.
Speaker 3 (04:02):
So we do this thing that where we assign blame
and we say who's the most at fault, and you
know what went the most wrong on Sunday. I've always
been I've tried to be fair to the quarterback al
and I'll continue to be. But I thought he was
really bad on Sunday. I didn't think Ikey was very good.
I didn't think enough wide receivers got open. But I
do start with the quarterback in the way that he
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played on Sunday. How about you?
Speaker 4 (04:26):
Yeah, you're gonna get to Bryce, but I think before
you get to Bryce, Dave Canalys as ahead Football coaches
this team, and in no way I think because I
played for John Fox, because I played for Andy Reid,
that you make it a coaching point, a point of
emphasis in a game like this to be even harder
to push guys even further to you want them to
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leave the field this week leading up to this game,
like what do we do wrong? What are we doing
wrong that this week of practice and preparation is even
more difficult. You can't leave any doubt in the players
minds in that locker room that you cannot allow a
team that's only won one football game on the season
to come in your building and just disrupt what you're
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trying to build. And that's the big word. Dave Canalis
and Dan Morgan, they're trying to build a culture and
they missed this when they absolutely with Now, if we
keep going as it rolls downhill, Bryce Young the quarterback,
I mean, it was awful. Don't tell me you're surprised.
Don't tell me that he's gained enough cachet in this
town over the course of his two and a half
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three and a half years with the Carolina Panthers where
we've forgotten that he could play this poorly at the
quarterback position. It's just a reminder. It's a reminder, and
it's going to bring up the conversation and I'm talking
about it now. Is he the guy? And we're right
back in the same place we were, you know, a
few games ago, a few a season ago, where there's
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so many doubts about Bryce and his capability and pushing
the ball down the field. It's an awful place to
be in as a former player and obviously a fan
in his friend.
Speaker 3 (06:00):
Do you think, honest question, do you think the guys
in the locker room are looking at him sideways after
Sunday or No.
Speaker 4 (06:06):
I think he's such a good guy and we all
fall victim that that we root for him. So I
think the guys in the locker room are rooting for
Bryce Young. But the only thing that matters. I say
this all the time is can you help us win?
And if you can't, you gotta move out of the way. Look,
I played with Rodney, Pete and Philly, and I knew
the kids, and I knew you know, the wife and
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all of that. When it was time for us to win,
can you help us win? No, move out of the way.
Let's take the long, take the job. Hey, Troopa, Hubbard
just went through it. Love Tuba earned his stripes, he
earned his contract. Can you help us win? No, move
out of the way right now and let the next
guy up help us win. And I don't know that
they have that guy on the roster. That's not what
I'm saying, but certainly you pull for a guy, you
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root for that guy. It's not personal. This window and
the opportunity to win football games in the NFL is
so slim. You just need the next man up that's
gonna be able to help you win. And I think
the guys, whether they'll tell you or not, man, they
watched that film. They watched the way Bryce played, and
you can't feel good about it. You can't feel good
about this guy, say a year from now, picking where
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you need to be. And I think this team needs
to be a playoff contender year three for Dave Canalins.
Speaker 3 (07:14):
And I want to talk about other things, but I
think this is the biggest thing that came out of Sunday.
So I want to stay here for a second because again,
you know, as bad as the first three quarters were,
we've become accustomed almost to Okay, Bryce is gonna figure
this out in the fourth quarter on the final drive,
he's going to make a couple of big throws. They're
gonna come back and figure this thing out. But they didn't.
And a big story since then is why is the
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passing game stagnant? Why are they not driving the ball
down the field? According to what you just said a
second ago, And people are saying, well, is Bryce afraid
to throw?
Speaker 5 (07:42):
It?
Speaker 3 (07:42):
Is Dave afraid to let him throw it. Our wide
receivers not getting open again. I know it's usually a
combination of these things in football, but like that dynamic
of is Bryce not doing it? Does Dave not trust him?
What's your take on that?
Speaker 4 (07:55):
Yeah, my big picture is you have a forced marriage.
You have Dave and you have Bryce Shaw. As much
as you can champion Bryce, and he's our guy, right,
it's a bit of a forced marriage. And in any
relationship there has to be trust. I don't believe that
there's trust there between Bryce and Dave and the play
calling and the execution of said plays. But then as
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I dig deeper, who were throwing the ball down the
field to, Like, if we draft a guy that can
make plays down the field? We did not. We drafted
a guy that is a possession receiver and he is
one of the top rookies this year at doing that
in t Max look at Excel two years in the row.
We drafted a first round wide receiver. So as much
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as it sounds like I'm making an excuse for Bryce
in that, right, who we throwing the ball down the
field to? Not a tight end, not any of the
tight ends. And so when I look at Bryce and
whether his trust is there in that wide receiver group,
and then we look at Dave. Should I dial up
these plays knowing we don't have that guy, knowing my
quarterback doesn't feel confident in it, and then all the
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offensive line issues you kind of pointed to earlier. It's
a recipe for disaster. And you will go out in
the game, or a team decides I'm gonna stop the run,
and I'm gonna dare your quarterback who doesn't throw for
three hundred yards, who doesn't put up three touchdown games,
to beat us with his arms, with this wide receiver group,
this pass catching group. When I throw the tight ends in,
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and hey, you got a good game plan, I'll live
with it. If Bryce and this wide receiver group can
beat us, you'll win. And I think when you look
at Kellen Moore, that that staff and that team they
executed walllessly.
Speaker 3 (09:31):
Al Wallace former Panthers defensive end Queen Cityewspanthers dot Com
pre and postgame every single week, hanging out with us
here on a Tuesday, how do you think, Well, I'll
go there in a second. I got a lot of
people today and yesterday saying it's time to move on.
You know, I think people turned on him on Sunday.
A lot of folks lost the faith. Whatever, say, we
got to do this, we got to draft this guy,
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we got to sign this guy. You're not doing anything
for the next seven games, first and foremost unless he
gets hurt. But then I can't image imagine that they're
going to go looking for another quarterback in the drafts.
I mean, I think Dan's doing a pretty good job
building this roster elsewhere right now, so I would think
they're probably going to lean more toward you know, you know,
continuing to build the roster and maybe bringing in veteran
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competition for Bryce next year. Is that where you think
they go or could they go elsewhere?
Speaker 4 (10:19):
Yeah? I think they could go elsewhere. There's no doubt
in my mind that, you know, general manager and head
coach that are tied together, that clock is ticking. And
as much as you hate to have that pressure, of course,
Dan was my teammate. I think Dave Canalis has a
good plan and whether that's he's been able to put
that together the way he wants to or not. Just
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look at this league. These teams just don't wait for quarterbacks.
Especially young quarterbacks that were still trying to figure it out.
And we love those last seven eight games we saw
last year from Bryce Young. The first couple of games
this season did not look great, and then this team
start winning. Now ask yourself that they win because Bryce, Yeah,
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we saw him close out games and he does that
and I think he's calm, he executes, he gets the
ball where it needs to be or is it a
result of the running game in a stout defense over
the last month. It is not out of the realm,
And I hate to say that. I think this is
an unbelievable kid, made a character and exactly who you want.
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But can he help us win? If the skill set there?
Can he leave this team? Can he be the reason?
And it just doesn't feel that way. So I wouldn't
be surprised if they go back in the draft and say, hey,
maybe we don't have to answer right now, and we're
not gonna just toss Bryce away, but we gotta start
thinking about it. We gotta start thinking about the next move.
And it can't be a thirty eight, thirty nine year
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old Andy donk interesting.
Speaker 3 (11:43):
So I also I asked this question earlier on the show,
if you're David Tepper, you know big picture, because I
mean that's your job. You're the owner. You've kind of
stayed out of the spotlight so far. That's not kind
of he has. And you know Sunday was ugly, and
so was Buffalo and so was New England. But you
are five and five, Like we just looked up on
the studio TVs again a moment ago and ESPN has
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them right there in the hunt next to the San
Francisco forty nine ers. So if you're David Tepper, how
do you feel about your operation right now?
Speaker 4 (12:13):
I think you feel better because of the history of
this team under David Tepper. You look at it. You know,
ten games during the season, you're at five hundred. You
haven't been in that spot in a long time. And look,
it's hard to move away from the negatives when it's
such an awful filling watching and getting the result of
this football game. But at the end of the day,
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you feel better about it. But long term play, like
are we going in the right direction? I think you're
taking some moral victories here that this team, after seven
or eight years of ownership, this owner can't afford to have.
You gotta win you got to build a consistent winner.
And you look all around the NFL. Teams are turning
it around. Teams are making great decisions and they're just
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one or two players. Look at the Coats, I mean,
look at Shane Stikeen. They're just one or two players away.
And I think the Panthers are in a similar spot.
There are pieces on that defense. They're hell, there are
pieces on the offense. Now what's the difference? They got there?
Running back healthy and I think you have a couple
of options in the backfield, and then they got a
quarterback that operates in the system. Not the best quarterback.
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We can't you know, go out and give Danny Dams
all the credit. But it works, and you gotta find
out what works. You got to figure it out fast.
And you know this thing can turn around fast. When
you look at this schedule, you think revenge is and
on the mind of the Atlanta Falcons. Look down the
road at some of these teams. They're gonna be pissed
off and now they see a wounded You know, Panthers
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team that is has some self doubt. And I'm just
telling you, I've been in that locker room. You can
smell the blood in the water. They're gonna get everything
Atlanta has. I don't know what that is from week
to week, but this one is not as much of
a walk in the park as I thought it would
be after watching them just destroyed this team earlier this season.
Speaker 5 (13:52):
Well, and I don't I.
Speaker 3 (13:53):
Guess I don't need to ask you that because that
was my next question. What your thoughts on that were?
But I said the same thing earlier in the show,
like this is this is an ultimate test of focus
in preparation for the Panthers this week because Atlanta's going
to be chomping at the bit to get them inside
that stadium on Sunday. So you know, how well prepared
will the Panthers be, how focused will they be? Which
I guess leads me to the final question here because
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Ikyakwanu and JT. Sanders and Nick Gorton told us in
their own words that they didn't feel like last week's
practice was great, that the guys were prepared enough, they
had good enough practices. I'll just throw out there that
Keegan Michael Keey made a surprise appearance during a meeting
one day, which isn't a sin, it's not a crime.
If they win the game. I don't guess we're talking
about it, but I'll throw it out there. What did
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you think of three separate players effectively saying we didn't
have a good enough week of practice, we didn't prepare
well enough. And I'll tack on, do you think anybody,
any veterans in that locker room have an issue with
a rookie like Nick Gorton saying that to the press.
Speaker 4 (14:50):
Yeah, if you couldn't stow by my tone so far
this conversation, I'm a little bit pissed off that that
even happened. I've been in that locker room. You understand
what it takes and of this team, and I know
coming into matchups like this, we talked about it. I've
talked about with other people trap game. Right, You're not
good enough to go into a situation or a trap game.
So for anybody to take their foot off the gas,
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for anyone to think that you can halfway go out
and perform in practice and that it wouldn't show up
on the game feeld on Sunday, it's embarrassing and it
pisces me off because this team is building something. I
can see how this team could be good it could
make a playoff run this season, but to do what
they did on Sunday was so frustrating. And I've probably
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watched it three times because I'm just trying, like everybody
else to understand how you could look, you know, one
way for the past month and then do what we
saw on Sunday and then you started seeing the things
on social media. And for a twenty one year old
to say that again, I'll say it. I said that
at the beginning. Where's the leadership? Where are the guys
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that would even if he said it right now, it
should be some smoke coming from that building because somebody
should have snatched them up. And you're talking out of place,
you're talking out a term. Maybe he doesn't know any better,
but he would damn figure it out real quick. But
it just tells you what's going on. And it's a
young team. For me, that means it's an immature team
and the lack of the leadership, the lack thereof is
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just not there. That should never happen. God should never
go into a week kids a division opponent thinking it
was just gonna be just written because you won what
foreign a row? That just burns me up.
Speaker 3 (16:29):
Man That's why I asked you that question, because I
felt like veterans would not like that, and I would
imagine at least somebody said something to him already. All Right, Al,
I appreciate you brother. You always bring it and I
can't wait to see in a press box soon, buddy.
Speaker 4 (16:42):
Thank you, all right, appreciate it, man hey, Al.
Speaker 3 (16:45):
Wallace fired up man on a Tuesday, did not like
what he saw from the Panthers on Sunday. Does not
like what he's hearing from the locker room, your reaction,
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Radio ninety two seven wfn Z Talking Panthers, Al Wallace
brought the house down. Says he is quote unquote pissed
off about the way the Panthers played on Sunday, but
even more so comments from Mickey AKUANU J. T. Sanders,
Nick Scorton about how the team didn't have a great
week of practice, missed the details, and lost some days
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last week heading into New Orleans, which would indicate they
might have been feeling themselves reading their press clippings, whatever
your favorite saying is, and al does not like that.
I don't think anybody likes that, But three different players
saying it out loud. Who's that a reflection on? By
the way, who is that? People will say Dave Canalis
automatically that's on the head coach, and I'm inclined to agree,
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but I am open to other suggestions or other you know,
views and viewpoints on this smoke. Who's that most on
in your mind?
Speaker 6 (18:06):
I think that just the players as a whole, that they,
you know, it kind of went unchecked to where they
thought that they could go for ut practice and be like, oh, yeah,
we'll still be fine. I think it has to go
with the fifty three and the practice squad and ever
just every one of the players too.
Speaker 3 (18:22):
Yeah, I mean somebody.
Speaker 6 (18:23):
The only thing is, I don't know who deserves it
the most, you know, That's the only thing I can
think of it.
Speaker 3 (18:28):
Here's what I'll say. How many times have we heard coach,
not just coaches, but good coaches say the best teams
are player led teams. Dave Canalis has said that now
that doesn't absolve him of responsibility for preparing his team
and having them focused and ready to play. But that
is on the players too, and Derek Brown has been
the consummate leader inside the locker room based on everything
we hear and know, I think J. C. Horn has
taken on a much larger leadership role, you know. I
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think they miss a voice like Robert Hunt on a
week like last week, a guy who was very vocal,
very much take charge, call guys out, set the tone,
that sort of thing. Yeah, other guys have to step up,
like even Ikey now in year three, like here year four,
I guess, I mean, Ikey's got to step up and
do that. Taylor Moten, you know, can be that guy,
but we've heard players talk about him being largely, you know,
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kind of soft spoken, so you don't look to him
for that at least not all the time. But it's
just again, it's a problem that they apparently thought, you know,
we don't have to work as hard last week because
we've we just beat the Packers. And maybe that's an
oversimplification and it doesn't apply to all of them, but
on balance, that's the way it looked. Last week. Just
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did seven oh four five, seven ninety six to ten
hit us up on the FanDuel text line al seemed
to really have an issue, as I suspected with the
rookie Nick s Gorton uh speaking out, I think said,
damn well, somebody would have let him know. I guess
back in OL's day. And that's why I asked the
question because a few people have said on the text line,
most recently Flukedjuke. He's saying, I'm fine with what Scoreton
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said to me. It shows that he had a higher
standard than what the vets have. Only way to fix
a problem to admit that there is one. Yeah, that's true,
but in the NFL, vet's largely don't want to hear
that stuff from rookies, even if it's right, because it
had already been said by Ikey and by J T. Sanders,
who's only a second year guy. You know, I guess
Ikey's the veteran guy, the most senior guy in this conversation,
but he doesn't have that R next to his name
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on the team profile anymore. Correct buck Eye Dave saying
got no problem with Scoreton shows he cares. If vetts
don't like it, then they're soft and shouldn't be here. Yeah,
I mean, listen, I identified that as something that might be
a problem inside the locker room. I don't work in
that locker room, so I don't have an issue with it.
And to me, it bodes well for the future of
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the Panthers defense that you've got another guy on that
side of the football who carries himself that way and
operates that way, in addition to a guy like Derek
Brown seven oh four five seven ninety six ten. Hit
us up. Mccaukey says, I like Scoreton, but no need
to give the media any fresh meat to beat the
team up with. Yeah, I don't think that. First of all,
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they're not getting beaten up for this necessary You're getting
beaten up because you lost to the one and eight
Saints at home with a chance to pull within a
half game of the lead in the division. That bottom line,
you're getting beaten up on because you lost to that
Saints team, which I mean, listen, the Panthers aren't good,
but the Saints are pitiful. They just are. And I
understand they just beat the Panthers and so probably some
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New Orleans fans hate to hear me say that, but
that's the same thing they were saying about their team
last week and still are. It's a two and eight
team that wants the number one overall pick, and you
just lost to them at home with a chance to
get to six and four. That's a problem. I've also,
real quick before I take these phone calls, gotten a
lot of people today saying, KB, what about Mac Jones?
What about Mac Jones this offseason as a veteran, you know,
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backup or to come in and push Bryce or to
compete with Bryce. I mean, I'm okay with it if
that's the direction they want again, and if you're asking
for me to say, yeah, that's a good idea, I've
heard worse ideas. I would imagine Andy Dalton's retiring at
the end of the season. I've e't edited a cut
him like, I can't foresee a world in which he's
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here next year. Mac Jones looks good in San Francisco.
Kyle Shanahan truly is the quarterback whisperer. We can't say
that about Dave Canalis other than that was his reputation
as an OC. But like Shanahan is the quarterback whisperer,
and so a lot of guys look good or better
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in his system. But I still think they're going back
to Brock Purty because brock Party both runs the system
well and plays well outside of the system, like when
the X's and o's breakdown. Brock Purty is, I think,
going to be better than Mac Jones is. But Mac
has been able to run that offense pretty well, right.
I mean, they did just lose to the Rams, but
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it wasn't back what's that? But it wasn't mac Jones' fault.
Like he threw for three nineteen and three touchdowns. It's
his third three hundred yard game of the year. How
many does Bryce have?
Speaker 5 (22:57):
None?
Speaker 3 (22:57):
So like, first of all, I think if they let
Mac Jones, if Mac Jones ends up anywhere, Ma's gonna
want to end up in a place where he can
compete for a starting job based on what he's doing
right here, right now. So you're not bringing back in
this scenario that people are asking about, you're not bringing
mac Jones in. I think just as your backup. I
wouldn't think you'd be signing Mac Jones to come in
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and have a full blown competition with Bryce Young and
I could get down with that, wouldn't bother me?
Speaker 5 (23:26):
Now?
Speaker 3 (23:26):
Is there a better option out there? Off the top
of your head? Smoke in terms of because you and
I both typically agree, Al didn't seem to fully agree.
Al thinks it's still possible to go back into the
draft looking for a quarterback. Everybody's got opinions. I bet
they don't, but Al could be right about that. Yeah, well,
I think usually you should have that mindset. But here's
the problem with that mindset. You're not picking in the
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top ten most likely.
Speaker 6 (23:50):
And have you seen the quarterbacks that are after the
top ten quarterbacks or top two quarterbacks into draft. We're
not talking about Mendoza, like, for example, Tanka von currently
has Mendoza as the number two overall pick, Dante Moore
is like a top five pick, and Ty Simpson here
to quarterbacks after Fernando Mendoza, Dante Moore type Simpsons, which
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if we're going to see right now, those are likely
going to be the top three quarterbacks taken, and they'll
be in the top ten to twelve after that. Leonora
Sellers don't know if he's even going into the NFL
draft this year. That's how the season's gone for him.
John Mattier, I mean, he's had his moments, but he's
kind of faded.
Speaker 5 (24:29):
Away here as of late. Is he healthy.
Speaker 6 (24:33):
That's also another question. Garrett Nusmeyer talking about stock that's tanked.
Speaker 3 (24:40):
One of these guys is going to work out in
the NFL.
Speaker 6 (24:42):
Jandon Mayava Miyava Mayava interests me, but he's also still
relatively new playing quarterback at USC. Then you have Carson
Beck too many turnovers, Brandon Soarsby, he barely froze the ball,
Drew Aller, I mean, holy crap, his stock is tunk.
Speaker 3 (25:00):
Tank stock is tunked, tunked, It's stunk.
Speaker 6 (25:03):
It's tank two. Kate club Nick, same thing. And Josh Hoover,
who's always been a mid round guy. Yeah, who's in
that group that you would say? Yeah, I really want
to say, and he's immediately going to replace Price. Yeah,
Dinno just said. Sam Howe was the answer his season long.
He says his pick problem can be fixed, Yeah, but
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why can't he get a helmet in Philly? I'm I
would be open to bringing him into the room as
a backup, yes, but I don't know. You're not bringing
Sam in to be like, hey, compete with Bryce as
a starter like Sam led the NFL in interceptions. You
say the pick problem can be fixed, but I don't
know about that. I'm interested.
Speaker 3 (25:42):
I'm not shutting you down and saying no, but I've
got some mixed thoughts on Sam Howe. Let's take some
phone calls. Alex is up first, Alex, what's going on?
Speaker 7 (25:51):
Hey?
Speaker 8 (25:51):
How you doing?
Speaker 4 (25:52):
Kyle? Happy birthday? See man?
Speaker 5 (25:53):
Thanks problem.
Speaker 4 (25:55):
I've been a.
Speaker 9 (25:56):
Pantheras fan for I want to say ten to fifteen years. Man,
I've been watching this thing when it's good, when it's bad.
I be honest with you, Bryce John he's averaging one
hundred and eighty.
Speaker 4 (26:04):
Four yards per game. You gotta get rid of him.
Speaker 9 (26:07):
It's our quarterback.
Speaker 7 (26:08):
Man.
Speaker 4 (26:09):
I would go with Mac Jones. He in a two
year deal.
Speaker 9 (26:11):
I sign him for you know, something of around ten
to fifteen million. I'll resign rico' dado. And also, this
is what I would look for if you can't get
those two guys. I know it's controversial, but we got
a good defense, you got a good offense. Maybe draft
a tight end for security blanket for the next quarterback.
But I would try to bring in, you know, a
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Chador as a backup. And I will also try to
look at Royola from Nebraska in.
Speaker 8 (26:39):
A couple of years.
Speaker 4 (26:39):
That kid's gonna be good.
Speaker 9 (26:40):
He's not all the way there yet, but he's averaging
more than one hundred and eighty four yards per game,
and I think in college me in the NFL, he's
gonna process a little bit faster. I just don't see
it from Bryce.
Speaker 4 (26:51):
Too many mistakes.
Speaker 9 (26:52):
He doesn't push it a ball downfield, he missed Cocher
on some on a third down, he missed Exile last week,
and I think he just not fit for the NFL game.
I think in college, yeah, he's good, but I just
don't see it in the games he had success, we.
Speaker 4 (27:07):
Were down and we were trailing.
Speaker 9 (27:09):
So I don't think he knows how to lead a
football team. And I think Bryce is just I don't
believe in Bryce. I said it from day one when
he was drafted. We should have went it with CJ.
CJ a little bit more of a dual threat. I
feel like you put more pieces around CJ. Stroud, he
would have been a better situation. But you know that's
neither here nor there. And I just think if we
get somebody and also make Jones. He's averaging two ten
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a game passon yard and he's a smart quarterback, just
a filler until we get the quarterback we're really looking for,
and you know that's all you get from me, and
hey man, happy birthday again.
Speaker 3 (27:42):
Oh you brother, appreciate the phone call. There's a lot there.
I can't get to it all. I'm listening to him
talk and I'm just thinking to myself, Okay, mac Jones
has resuscitated his career in San Francisco, gonna land himself.
He's under contract next year, by the way. Now it's
a very cheap contract, and so he can he dealt
for and probably will be by somebody. I would imagine
(28:03):
they might keep him, but I would imagine somebody's dealing
for him. What does Bryce look like in the Shanahan system.
We'll never know, but I think about that a lot,
probably more than I should.
Speaker 6 (28:16):
Well, And it's like, all right, so you don't want
to keep this guy around, but you want to go
take a guy whose career has now been rejuvenated after
leaving a situation and has taken more time. Who's one
of the best quarterbacks in the NFL this year, Kyle
Daniel Jones. Did they just throw him out and like
he was nothing in New York after years of trying
to work him out, they did.
Speaker 5 (28:36):
Yeah.
Speaker 6 (28:37):
By the way, who's the best quarterback in the NFC
South right now? Baker Mayfield? Yeah, thrown out twice out
yea yeah. Oh, by the way, Seattle's been really good
this year. Who's your quarterback?
Speaker 3 (28:48):
Sam Donald?
Speaker 6 (28:49):
Sam Donald? He was thrown out a couple of times
and people would discard him. People thought he was the
anti Christ at one point here this year where he
was trying to tell people to strap it on if
he was wanting to talk crap about him.
Speaker 5 (28:57):
Yeah. So that's four quarterbacks right there.
Speaker 6 (29:00):
We got to get out of this mindset of the
twenty tens quarterback mindset that we were in with the
CBA when it got signed to where if you didn't
have a superstar quarterback, you were screwed, go to the
draft and try to save your life. We're back into
today's word. There's gonna be a true middle class of quarterbacks.
Is Bryce Young good enough right now? No, he's not.
Speaker 5 (29:18):
But guess what.
Speaker 6 (29:18):
You put yourself in a situation where you can't trade
up for a quarterback because you're too good of a
team right now to trade up for a quarterback and
without giving up a load of assets, and you're also
there's no quarterback in free agency that's going to save you.
Speaker 5 (29:31):
So get that for your skull.
Speaker 3 (29:33):
I just get it for your skull.
Speaker 5 (29:36):
What you won't Russell Wilson is.
Speaker 3 (29:38):
Going fight with the people on the text line for
a second. They're gonna that are gonna fight with you
on this while I take John's phone. Call John, what's
going on, buddy?
Speaker 2 (29:46):
I completely disagree with that mind. I mean, you just
lost to a quarterback that was drafted in the second round.
Just because you're not drafted in the top ten doesn't
mean you don't have the ability to draft a quarterback
in the future. And just because you name four quarterbacks
that have been resurrected, I can name a dozen quarterbacks
that didn't work out either. So I mean every case
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is an individual case. Just let's don't let's don't pick
and choose here, Let's evaluate what you have. And also,
those people got better when they went somewhere else, not
when they say what the team they were at, either,
So that the examples are completely irrelevant in my mind.
Speaker 3 (30:23):
I don't think though, I don't think they're irrelevant, but
I think I think you're pushback survey. It's not irrelevant
when it's happened here twice in the last five years.
He's got a point on that job.
Speaker 2 (30:30):
The point is they didn't work out. Ear They didn't
work out ear right.
Speaker 3 (30:34):
But isn't that the organization's fault.
Speaker 2 (30:36):
But sure, maybe, but the organization has changed as well.
Those are different coaches, those are different scenarios. I'm tired
of using all this stuff in the past. Wet's live
in the moment here, So let's live with the coach
and the players and the management we have now. I
don't care what happened five six.
Speaker 5 (30:52):
Years ago, So hang on.
Speaker 6 (30:53):
I do need to ask you though, because you're saying,
let's live in the present now. So if you said
this is a changed organization, don't you think they should
give him another shot instead of throwing him out with
the bathwater like the previous organizations did.
Speaker 5 (31:04):
Here.
Speaker 2 (31:04):
I don't think anybody's saying throw them out, but you
could still draft somebody. They didn't throw spinc or Rattler out,
but they still drafted somebody. Yes, here, figure it out.
You get somebody in there and get competition. Nobody's saying
cut them tomorrow.
Speaker 3 (31:17):
Yeah, I'm with you on that. I got no problem
with what you're saying there you want to draft, you
want to draft a guy in the second or third round.
I got no problem with that. Sure, yeah, yeah, thank you, John.
Appreciate the phone call. Look, I'm with you that part.
We one hundred percent agree on John. Thank you, Brother,
appreciate the phone call. In the interest of time, who's
your Bobby's index? Bobby? What's going on?
Speaker 5 (31:36):
Brother?
Speaker 4 (31:37):
Happy forty is KB?
Speaker 5 (31:38):
Thank you? Bud.
Speaker 1 (31:40):
Hey, I'm knocking on the door of sixtieth milestone. So
my advice to you is keep doing what you're doing,
enjoy the ride, cherish, treasure all the gifts that you
have in your life. So what you came on board
I mentioned in twenty seventeen at the Palm for the
Night at the Panthers.
Speaker 3 (31:56):
Sounds about right.
Speaker 4 (31:57):
So yeah, I've gotten to know you very well all
over the years. Really enjoyed it.
Speaker 1 (32:02):
And I'll add onto what Patrick said. And I've said
this to you before, but I think it warn't saying
it again on your fortieth birthday. You've got so much
reach and positive impact in so many lives in so
many ways with your talent that I speak for everybody
that I really appreciate what you do and what Smoke does, and.
Speaker 2 (32:21):
You just you're great, that's all easy.
Speaker 3 (32:23):
I appreciate that.
Speaker 1 (32:25):
Yeah, But on the mellow, I'm glad to here he's
going to be back at practice.
Speaker 4 (32:31):
You mentioned the other day. Is that chronic?
Speaker 1 (32:33):
Well, if it flares up again, then yes, it is chronic.
And if that's the case, they're gonna have to do
a deep guve into the anatomy on that ankle and
find a program that's going to mitigate whatever's driving those issues,
because otherwise you're just gonna have to discard him.
Speaker 5 (32:49):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (32:50):
Right, you have any takes on the quarterback situation.
Speaker 1 (32:53):
You know, I don't mind that Stam Howe in the
room idea. I don't want to. I don't want to
be a competition, but I don't mind that, or like
previous callers, I wouldn't mind.
Speaker 4 (33:00):
You know, taking one in the second or third round.
Speaker 5 (33:02):
Okay, all right, Bobby at the beach, we need some entering.
Speaker 3 (33:05):
The appreciate you, Bob, I appreciate you. But Bobby, who's
your Bobby checking in? Let's do this. We'll hit a break,
we'll come back, we'll squeeze in the final phone call, Smoke.
Let's go to the headlines.
Speaker 6 (33:16):
All right, speaking of LaMelo Ball, he is officially going
to be out for tomorrow's game against Milwaukee, So don't
know if that means he'll be still available for the
Friday game on the road in Milwaukee, but he is
not going to be playing the front end of this
home and home against the Bucks. Almost called them the Brewers,
Samander injury note news, Pat Content, Colin Sexton, and kJ
(33:37):
Simpson are all probable.
Speaker 5 (33:38):
Pat Connaton's illness.
Speaker 6 (33:40):
Colin Sexton right ankle sprain, kJ Simpson left ac joint spring.
Speaker 3 (33:45):
Okay, we'll come back. We'll take some phone calls. Wrap
up the show. Sports Radio ninety two seven wfn Z.
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Big toss of the case.
Speaker 5 (33:59):
But for the rages teams, I can't be.
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Is cool with the world.
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That's off for the week, so.
Speaker 4 (34:07):
They after the week in the lamb of the Lambs.
I amn't I be damn from.
Speaker 5 (34:10):
Show My Run and Shools Shols.
Speaker 3 (34:13):
All right, quick reminder coming up in forty five minutes
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He basically I think he kind of said something to
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Speaker 6 (35:01):
Yeah, both teams come into this game two and o.
Davison beat the Sallas and they actually beat Washington State
eighty five sixty nine. Charlotte's gotten off to a two
and no start as well, with victories over Indiana State No.
They did not play Larry Bird and a five point
victory over Tennessee Tech bouth Ford.
Speaker 5 (35:18):
Your coaches in different, very intriguing game.
Speaker 6 (35:22):
Pretties too, because I think this will give us a
good idea of what both of these teams will be like.
Speaker 5 (35:26):
Once conference play rolls around in two months.
Speaker 3 (35:28):
All right, let's take a couple of phone calls and
wrap up the show. Rod is up first here in
the final segment, Rod, what's going on?
Speaker 2 (35:34):
Oh?
Speaker 8 (35:34):
First off, happy birthday, man, I just liked your post
on Instagram.
Speaker 5 (35:40):
Let's go all the pigs.
Speaker 8 (35:42):
Yeah, sir, beautiful, Everything was beautiful. Man. I'm a few
months behind you. So everybody who's out there listening. By
the way, this dude is Jack. Just so you guys know,
so do not get out of pocket on this phone.
I did want to say, you know, first off, Nick
(36:03):
cornon mant's say it to the team too. If you
say it out in the public, fine, but please say
it in that locker room, saying to them, boy, the
men and those in that locker room. I hope he
went in there and lit through them before or after
that interview, And if he did, I'm one hundred percent
cool with it. You know, be a leader, young fellaw.
(36:25):
I all of us, you know, all of us were
talking now about Bryce and do we want Bryce. You know,
it's interesting how his rookie year right after all of
us callers where, oh, he's not it, he can't, he's
not gonna make it, and all of the NFL experts
were hang on, just back, you know, take it easy.
(36:45):
We got to see. Now you're starting to hear some
of the NFL guys say, all right, he you know,
maybe not he's It's almost like they've done their evaluation
and now they see, you know, okay, maybe he's so,
maybe he's not. When you hear a guy like Al
Wallace say what he just said, it's hard for me
to make the case that he's still the guy. I
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still think he has some quality even as a backup.
I think he's a guy that could do you like
Nick Foles, come in there mid season, take you all
the way, might even win your trophy. But if you
guys want to talk about another quarterback, now I can
tell I can point you to another quarterback. If that's
what we really won't saw it. Now there's a guy
(37:30):
out there, and another caller already said it. The door, Sandy.
Nobody places the ball, in my opinion, nobody places the
ball where it needs to be back to her. Then
Shador does. If you watch his throws, if he has
time protection, that kid makes throws. Man, And the only
(37:50):
thing I would say, Cam has spoiled me. Man, I
want a big guy back there running the ball, a quarterback.
Speaker 3 (37:57):
Hear I He'll do Okay.
Speaker 8 (37:59):
Yeah, thanks y'all. Enjoy your b day.
Speaker 3 (38:00):
Man, Thank you brother, you're the best.
Speaker 5 (38:02):
Rod.
Speaker 3 (38:02):
I appreciate that. I gotta be honest with you. I
love everything you said up until that point. I am
not interested in the Shador Sanders business.
Speaker 5 (38:08):
I'm not.
Speaker 3 (38:08):
I think there are far better options out there. Wish
him the best, and honestly, Rod, like again, we agree
on a lot of things. But if he was that good,
I think he'd be playing already. I just that's my opinion.
And I've people I'm sure will come out of left
field to accuse me of whatever they want to. I've
always said nice things about the kid. I have, but
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there's a reason he's not playing in Cleveland. There's just
a reason some smokes miming over there, all right. Last
call of the day goes to DJ DJ, what's going on?
Speaker 7 (38:38):
Oh yeah, what's that?
Speaker 6 (38:39):
Man?
Speaker 7 (38:40):
I'm a double down on what he just said.
Speaker 8 (38:42):
Early.
Speaker 7 (38:43):
Everything he's saying right there, I agree with it. But
here's the issue. Cleland sucks. They always so you got this,
how many quarterback Cam Cleveland and successfully developed? See, you
gotta have the right organization to develop a young quarterback
(39:03):
and clean it? Ain't it? So they don't know what
they're doing. No way now, Carolina. I mean there's so
much in the same a same fashion. But I mean,
y'all did have Cam with Cam Newton. So I'm looking
at you know, so door like you come to Carolina,
the hype getting behind him. You got a pretty good
(39:24):
quarterback coach. Uh, you know, doesn't mean you gotta put
him out there right all? Bet you make the trade,
you put him, you put him behind on Bright young
and you know you let it, you let it, you
let it. Still, let's see what happened.
Speaker 3 (39:40):
A lot of sdure love on the phone lines today, DJ,
I appreciate you brother. You have a good eating to
my man. Thank you for the phone call. We can
talk about it tomorrow. We'll get well, there's no time left.
We can talk about it tomorrow. No time for the
rewind either. But if you missed any part of the show.
Al Wallace was great, that's worth your time. Back at
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Tip my cap to you, man, It's been an incredible
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Speaker 5 (40:25):
Happy for to you.
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Thank you, buddy. I'll tip my cap to my wife
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It's the first time I'm bringing it up, but she
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We got a lot more to get to. I want
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to get back to that quarterback conversation too, and I
did have I did have tar Heel Swaff a minute
ago after Dog's call say that as he's listening right now,
and I mentioned my childhood. He says he's got his
boys I think in the car at the moment, and
he says they ask when our show comes on every day,
which I think is cool and I really appreciate that.
That and all of the the birthday wishes today, your
(01:01):
boy is forty In case, I'm not going to keep
repeating it. It's only one day, but it's a milestone.
I'm forty years old today and you know, trying to
figure out life on the other side, It's been a
decade on the air at wfn Z, basically all of
my thirties, and I go into my forties today grateful
for all of you. So I appreciate it and all
the advice on you know, how to act as a
forty year old man. Now you know what I have
(01:23):
to do differently, you know, aside from everyone saying that
you have to make louder grunts and noises when you
get up off every chair, which I think is an automatic.
I mean, that's that's just obvious. It's good advice, don't
get me wrong. But we're definitely going to be doing
more of that, so keep sending it in seven oh four, five,
seven ninety six, ten, and I've gotten a strict Well,
there's a lot of colonoscopy on the text line today too.
(01:45):
I'm going to leave that for a later date. How
about that, Well, I'll leave that alone, and let's get
to Al Wallace, former Panthers defensive end, who is here
to talk about the Carolina Panthers, which does not sound
like a pleasant conversation A mere forty eight hours removed
from a massive let down, one of the biggest letdowns,
and many of you have said this on the text
line the last twenty four hours that you think it's
(02:05):
the biggest letdown that you've ever seen at Bank of
America Stadium, which might be a little bit of recency bias,
but I also think it belongs on the on the
list in terms of just big spots. Everybody else in
the division's losing. You've got a chance to create distance
between yourself and the Falcons and pulled it within a
half game of the Bucks. And you just lay an
egg at home against a one and eight now two
(02:26):
and eight Saints team. And Al Wallace has been through
it all in the NFL, and he's back with us
to talk about it here in the five o'clock hour. Al,
what's going on?
Speaker 2 (02:33):
Brother?
Speaker 3 (02:33):
I appreciate the time.
Speaker 4 (02:35):
Oh what's up, man? How's it going? I had the birthday?
Speaker 3 (02:37):
Appreciate it, man, appreciate it. It's you know, it's good.
You know, we're talking sports for a living, so it's
never bad. But Panthers fans aren't exactly having a great
time this week. I didn't get to sit with you
in the press box on Sunday, so I missed you.
I don't know what the I'm sure I know kind
of what the vibe was like. Up there on Sunday.
It just kind of felt dead watching it on TV,
and it still felt going into the fourth quarter like
(02:57):
they had a chance, but this time it just kept
the ball back out. Like how disappointing was that performance
and how big a letdown was it?
Speaker 4 (03:05):
Yeah, I think it was a big letdown, Kyle, and
I actually did not sit in the press box. My
son had his final games and the playoffs in his
Black Football League, so I opted out. I put this
one on auto polit I assume that thing, like many
of the Panthers fans, with the way this team has
been playing over the last four or five weeks, that
(03:26):
you go in and you take care of the one
game on the schedule that you're supposed to win, and
you don't have a lapse, You don't appear to have
a you know, no leadership in that locker room, no
leadership at the top. When you go out and put
a performance up like that, it was inexcusable and very disappointing.
As I sat out there with some of the other
fans and the dads at Black Football while this thing
(03:49):
was going on, just could not believe it. Just absolutely
stunned in the division alone, no matter what the records
are that you wouldn't be ready for this opportunity to
kind of continue need a momentum that this team is
built over the last month.
Speaker 3 (04:02):
So we do this thing that where we assign blame
and we say who's the most at fault, and you
know what went the most wrong on Sunday. I've always
been I've tried to be fair to the quarterback al
and I'll continue to be. But I thought he was
really bad on Sunday. I didn't think Ikey was very good.
I didn't think enough wide receivers got open. But I
do start with the quarterback in the way that he
(04:24):
played on Sunday. How about you?
Speaker 4 (04:26):
Yeah, you're gonna get to Bryce, but I think before
you get to Bryce, Dave Canalys as ahead Football coaches
this team, and in no way I think because I
played for John Fox, because I played for Andy Reid,
that you make it a coaching point, a point of
emphasis in a game like this to be even harder
to push guys even further to you want them to
(04:47):
leave the field this week leading up to this game,
like what do we do wrong? What are we doing
wrong that this week of practice and preparation is even
more difficult. You can't leave any doubt in the players
minds in that locker room that you cannot allow a
team that's only won one football game on the season
to come in your building and just disrupt what you're
(05:09):
trying to build. And that's the big word. Dave Canalis
and Dan Morgan, they're trying to build a culture and
they missed this when they absolutely with Now, if we
keep going as it rolls downhill, Bryce Young the quarterback,
I mean, it was awful. Don't tell me you're surprised.
Don't tell me that he's gained enough cachet in this
town over the course of his two and a half
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three and a half years with the Carolina Panthers where
we've forgotten that he could play this poorly at the
quarterback position. It's just a reminder. It's a reminder, and
it's going to bring up the conversation and I'm talking
about it now. Is he the guy? And we're right
back in the same place we were, you know, a
few games ago, a few a season ago, where there's
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so many doubts about Bryce and his capability and pushing
the ball down the field. It's an awful place to
be in as a former player and obviously a fan
in his friend.
Speaker 3 (06:00):
Do you think, honest question, do you think the guys
in the locker room are looking at him sideways after
Sunday or No.
Speaker 4 (06:06):
I think he's such a good guy and we all
fall victim that that we root for him. So I
think the guys in the locker room are rooting for
Bryce Young. But the only thing that matters. I say
this all the time is can you help us win?
And if you can't, you gotta move out of the way. Look,
I played with Rodney, Pete and Philly, and I knew
the kids, and I knew you know, the wife and
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all of that. When it was time for us to win,
can you help us win? No, move out of the way.
Let's take the long, take the job. Hey, Troopa, Hubbard
just went through it. Love Tuba earned his stripes, he
earned his contract. Can you help us win? No, move
out of the way right now and let the next
guy up help us win. And I don't know that
they have that guy on the roster. That's not what
I'm saying, but certainly you pull for a guy, you
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root for that guy. It's not personal. This window and
the opportunity to win football games in the NFL is
so slim. You just need the next man up that's
gonna be able to help you win. And I think
the guys, whether they'll tell you or not, man, they
watched that film. They watched the way Bryce played, and
you can't feel good about it. You can't feel good
about this guy, say a year from now, picking where
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you need to be. And I think this team needs
to be a playoff contender year three for Dave Canalins.
Speaker 3 (07:14):
And I want to talk about other things, but I
think this is the biggest thing that came out of Sunday.
So I want to stay here for a second because again,
you know, as bad as the first three quarters were,
we've become accustomed almost to Okay, Bryce is gonna figure
this out in the fourth quarter on the final drive,
he's going to make a couple of big throws. They're
gonna come back and figure this thing out. But they didn't.
And a big story since then is why is the
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passing game stagnant? Why are they not driving the ball
down the field? According to what you just said a
second ago, And people are saying, well, is Bryce afraid
to throw?
Speaker 5 (07:42):
It?
Speaker 3 (07:42):
Is Dave afraid to let him throw it. Our wide
receivers not getting open again. I know it's usually a
combination of these things in football, but like that dynamic
of is Bryce not doing it? Does Dave not trust him?
What's your take on that?
Speaker 4 (07:55):
Yeah, my big picture is you have a forced marriage.
You have Dave and you have Bryce Shaw. As much
as you can champion Bryce, and he's our guy, right,
it's a bit of a forced marriage. And in any
relationship there has to be trust. I don't believe that
there's trust there between Bryce and Dave and the play
calling and the execution of said plays. But then as
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I dig deeper, who were throwing the ball down the
field to, Like, if we draft a guy that can
make plays down the field? We did not. We drafted
a guy that is a possession receiver and he is
one of the top rookies this year at doing that
in t Max look at Excel two years in the row.
We drafted a first round wide receiver. So as much
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as it sounds like I'm making an excuse for Bryce
in that, right, who we throwing the ball down the
field to? Not a tight end, not any of the
tight ends. And so when I look at Bryce and
whether his trust is there in that wide receiver group,
and then we look at Dave. Should I dial up
these plays knowing we don't have that guy, knowing my
quarterback doesn't feel confident in it, and then all the
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offensive line issues you kind of pointed to earlier. It's
a recipe for disaster. And you will go out in
the game, or a team decides I'm gonna stop the run,
and I'm gonna dare your quarterback who doesn't throw for
three hundred yards, who doesn't put up three touchdown games,
to beat us with his arms, with this wide receiver group,
this pass catching group. When I throw the tight ends in,
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and hey, you got a good game plan, I'll live
with it. If Bryce and this wide receiver group can
beat us, you'll win. And I think when you look
at Kellen Moore, that that staff and that team they
executed walllessly.
Speaker 3 (09:31):
Al Wallace former Panthers defensive end Queen Cityewspanthers dot Com
pre and postgame every single week, hanging out with us
here on a Tuesday, how do you think, Well, I'll
go there in a second. I got a lot of
people today and yesterday saying it's time to move on.
You know, I think people turned on him on Sunday.
A lot of folks lost the faith. Whatever, say, we
got to do this, we got to draft this guy,
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we got to sign this guy. You're not doing anything
for the next seven games, first and foremost unless he
gets hurt. But then I can't image imagine that they're
going to go looking for another quarterback in the drafts.
I mean, I think Dan's doing a pretty good job
building this roster elsewhere right now, so I would think
they're probably going to lean more toward you know, you know,
continuing to build the roster and maybe bringing in veteran
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competition for Bryce next year. Is that where you think
they go or could they go elsewhere?
Speaker 4 (10:19):
Yeah? I think they could go elsewhere. There's no doubt
in my mind that, you know, general manager and head
coach that are tied together, that clock is ticking. And
as much as you hate to have that pressure, of course,
Dan was my teammate. I think Dave Canalis has a
good plan and whether that's he's been able to put
that together the way he wants to or not. Just
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look at this league. These teams just don't wait for quarterbacks.
Especially young quarterbacks that were still trying to figure it out.
And we love those last seven eight games we saw
last year from Bryce Young. The first couple of games
this season did not look great, and then this team
start winning. Now ask yourself that they win because Bryce, Yeah,
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we saw him close out games and he does that
and I think he's calm, he executes, he gets the
ball where it needs to be or is it a
result of the running game in a stout defense over
the last month. It is not out of the realm,
And I hate to say that. I think this is
an unbelievable kid, made a character and exactly who you want.
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But can he help us win? If the skill set there?
Can he leave this team? Can he be the reason?
And it just doesn't feel that way. So I wouldn't
be surprised if they go back in the draft and say, hey,
maybe we don't have to answer right now, and we're
not gonna just toss Bryce away, but we gotta start
thinking about it. We gotta start thinking about the next move.
And it can't be a thirty eight, thirty nine year
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old Andy donk interesting.
Speaker 3 (11:43):
So I also I asked this question earlier on the show,
if you're David Tepper, you know big picture, because I
mean that's your job. You're the owner. You've kind of
stayed out of the spotlight so far. That's not kind
of he has. And you know Sunday was ugly, and
so was Buffalo and so was New England. But you
are five and five, Like we just looked up on
the studio TVs again a moment ago and ESPN has
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them right there in the hunt next to the San
Francisco forty nine ers. So if you're David Tepper, how
do you feel about your operation right now?
Speaker 4 (12:13):
I think you feel better because of the history of
this team under David Tepper. You look at it. You know,
ten games during the season, you're at five hundred. You
haven't been in that spot in a long time. And look,
it's hard to move away from the negatives when it's
such an awful filling watching and getting the result of
this football game. But at the end of the day,
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you feel better about it. But long term play, like
are we going in the right direction? I think you're
taking some moral victories here that this team, after seven
or eight years of ownership, this owner can't afford to have.
You gotta win you got to build a consistent winner.
And you look all around the NFL. Teams are turning
it around. Teams are making great decisions and they're just
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one or two players. Look at the Coats, I mean,
look at Shane Stikeen. They're just one or two players away.
And I think the Panthers are in a similar spot.
There are pieces on that defense. They're hell, there are
pieces on the offense. Now what's the difference? They got there?
Running back healthy and I think you have a couple
of options in the backfield, and then they got a
quarterback that operates in the system. Not the best quarterback.
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We can't you know, go out and give Danny Dams
all the credit. But it works, and you gotta find
out what works. You got to figure it out fast.
And you know this thing can turn around fast. When
you look at this schedule, you think revenge is and
on the mind of the Atlanta Falcons. Look down the
road at some of these teams. They're gonna be pissed
off and now they see a wounded You know, Panthers
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team that is has some self doubt. And I'm just
telling you, I've been in that locker room. You can
smell the blood in the water. They're gonna get everything
Atlanta has. I don't know what that is from week
to week, but this one is not as much of
a walk in the park as I thought it would
be after watching them just destroyed this team earlier this season.
Speaker 5 (13:52):
Well, and I don't I.
Speaker 3 (13:53):
Guess I don't need to ask you that because that
was my next question. What your thoughts on that were?
But I said the same thing earlier in the show,
like this is this is an ultimate test of focus
in preparation for the Panthers this week because Atlanta's going
to be chomping at the bit to get them inside
that stadium on Sunday. So you know, how well prepared
will the Panthers be, how focused will they be? Which
I guess leads me to the final question here because
(14:14):
Ikyakwanu and JT. Sanders and Nick Gorton told us in
their own words that they didn't feel like last week's
practice was great, that the guys were prepared enough, they
had good enough practices. I'll just throw out there that
Keegan Michael Keey made a surprise appearance during a meeting
one day, which isn't a sin, it's not a crime.
If they win the game. I don't guess we're talking
about it, but I'll throw it out there. What did
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you think of three separate players effectively saying we didn't
have a good enough week of practice, we didn't prepare
well enough. And I'll tack on, do you think anybody,
any veterans in that locker room have an issue with
a rookie like Nick Gorton saying that to the press.
Speaker 4 (14:50):
Yeah, if you couldn't stow by my tone so far
this conversation, I'm a little bit pissed off that that
even happened. I've been in that locker room. You understand
what it takes and of this team, and I know
coming into matchups like this, we talked about it. I've
talked about with other people trap game. Right, You're not
good enough to go into a situation or a trap game.
So for anybody to take their foot off the gas,
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for anyone to think that you can halfway go out
and perform in practice and that it wouldn't show up
on the game feeld on Sunday, it's embarrassing and it
pisces me off because this team is building something. I
can see how this team could be good it could
make a playoff run this season, but to do what
they did on Sunday was so frustrating. And I've probably
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watched it three times because I'm just trying, like everybody
else to understand how you could look, you know, one
way for the past month and then do what we
saw on Sunday and then you started seeing the things
on social media. And for a twenty one year old
to say that again, I'll say it. I said that
at the beginning. Where's the leadership? Where are the guys
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that would even if he said it right now, it
should be some smoke coming from that building because somebody
should have snatched them up. And you're talking out of place,
you're talking out a term. Maybe he doesn't know any better,
but he would damn figure it out real quick. But
it just tells you what's going on. And it's a
young team. For me, that means it's an immature team
and the lack of the leadership, the lack thereof is
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just not there. That should never happen. God should never
go into a week kids a division opponent thinking it
was just gonna be just written because you won what
foreign a row? That just burns me up.
Speaker 3 (16:29):
Man That's why I asked you that question, because I
felt like veterans would not like that, and I would
imagine at least somebody said something to him already. All Right, Al,
I appreciate you brother. You always bring it and I
can't wait to see in a press box soon, buddy.
Speaker 4 (16:42):
Thank you, all right, appreciate it, man hey, Al.
Speaker 3 (16:45):
Wallace fired up man on a Tuesday, did not like
what he saw from the Panthers on Sunday. Does not
like what he's hearing from the locker room, your reaction,
your thoughts, and will take your phone calls next. Got
a couple of phone lines open if you want to
get In Sports Radio ninety two to seven WFNZ. Sports
(17:15):
Radio ninety two seven wfn Z Talking Panthers, Al Wallace
brought the house down. Says he is quote unquote pissed
off about the way the Panthers played on Sunday, but
even more so comments from Mickey AKUANU J. T. Sanders,
Nick Scorton about how the team didn't have a great
week of practice, missed the details, and lost some days
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last week heading into New Orleans, which would indicate they
might have been feeling themselves reading their press clippings, whatever
your favorite saying is, and al does not like that.
I don't think anybody likes that, But three different players
saying it out loud. Who's that a reflection on? By
the way, who is that? People will say Dave Canalis
automatically that's on the head coach, and I'm inclined to agree,
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but I am open to other suggestions or other you know,
views and viewpoints on this smoke. Who's that most on
in your mind?
Speaker 6 (18:06):
I think that just the players as a whole, that they,
you know, it kind of went unchecked to where they
thought that they could go for ut practice and be like, oh, yeah,
we'll still be fine. I think it has to go
with the fifty three and the practice squad and ever
just every one of the players too.
Speaker 3 (18:22):
Yeah, I mean somebody.
Speaker 6 (18:23):
The only thing is, I don't know who deserves it
the most, you know, That's the only thing I can
think of it.
Speaker 3 (18:28):
Here's what I'll say. How many times have we heard coach,
not just coaches, but good coaches say the best teams
are player led teams. Dave Canalis has said that now
that doesn't absolve him of responsibility for preparing his team
and having them focused and ready to play. But that
is on the players too, and Derek Brown has been
the consummate leader inside the locker room based on everything
we hear and know, I think J. C. Horn has
taken on a much larger leadership role, you know. I
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think they miss a voice like Robert Hunt on a
week like last week, a guy who was very vocal,
very much take charge, call guys out, set the tone,
that sort of thing. Yeah, other guys have to step up,
like even Ikey now in year three, like here year four,
I guess, I mean, Ikey's got to step up and
do that. Taylor Moten, you know, can be that guy,
but we've heard players talk about him being largely, you know,
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kind of soft spoken, so you don't look to him
for that at least not all the time. But it's
just again, it's a problem that they apparently thought, you know,
we don't have to work as hard last week because
we've we just beat the Packers. And maybe that's an
oversimplification and it doesn't apply to all of them, but
on balance, that's the way it looked. Last week. Just
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did seven oh four five, seven ninety six to ten
hit us up on the FanDuel text line al seemed
to really have an issue, as I suspected with the
rookie Nick s Gorton uh speaking out, I think said,
damn well, somebody would have let him know. I guess
back in OL's day. And that's why I asked the
question because a few people have said on the text line,
most recently Flukedjuke. He's saying, I'm fine with what Scoreton
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said to me. It shows that he had a higher
standard than what the vets have. Only way to fix
a problem to admit that there is one. Yeah, that's true,
but in the NFL, vet's largely don't want to hear
that stuff from rookies, even if it's right, because it
had already been said by Ikey and by J T. Sanders,
who's only a second year guy. You know, I guess
Ikey's the veteran guy, the most senior guy in this conversation,
but he doesn't have that R next to his name
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on the team profile anymore. Correct buck Eye Dave saying
got no problem with Scoreton shows he cares. If vetts
don't like it, then they're soft and shouldn't be here. Yeah,
I mean, listen, I identified that as something that might be
a problem inside the locker room. I don't work in
that locker room, so I don't have an issue with it.
And to me, it bodes well for the future of
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the Panthers defense that you've got another guy on that
side of the football who carries himself that way and
operates that way, in addition to a guy like Derek
Brown seven oh four five seven ninety six ten. Hit
us up. Mccaukey says, I like Scoreton, but no need
to give the media any fresh meat to beat the
team up with. Yeah, I don't think that. First of all,
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they're not getting beaten up for this necessary You're getting
beaten up because you lost to the one and eight
Saints at home with a chance to pull within a
half game of the lead in the division. That bottom line,
you're getting beaten up on because you lost to that
Saints team, which I mean, listen, the Panthers aren't good,
but the Saints are pitiful. They just are. And I
understand they just beat the Panthers and so probably some
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New Orleans fans hate to hear me say that, but
that's the same thing they were saying about their team
last week and still are. It's a two and eight
team that wants the number one overall pick, and you
just lost to them at home with a chance to
get to six and four. That's a problem. I've also,
real quick before I take these phone calls, gotten a
lot of people today saying, KB, what about Mac Jones?
What about Mac Jones this offseason as a veteran, you know,
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backup or to come in and push Bryce or to
compete with Bryce. I mean, I'm okay with it if
that's the direction they want again, and if you're asking
for me to say, yeah, that's a good idea, I've
heard worse ideas. I would imagine Andy Dalton's retiring at
the end of the season. I've e't edited a cut
him like, I can't foresee a world in which he's
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here next year. Mac Jones looks good in San Francisco.
Kyle Shanahan truly is the quarterback whisperer. We can't say
that about Dave Canalis other than that was his reputation
as an OC. But like Shanahan is the quarterback whisperer,
and so a lot of guys look good or better
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in his system. But I still think they're going back
to Brock Purty because brock Party both runs the system
well and plays well outside of the system, like when
the X's and o's breakdown. Brock Purty is, I think,
going to be better than Mac Jones is. But Mac
has been able to run that offense pretty well, right.
I mean, they did just lose to the Rams, but
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it wasn't back what's that? But it wasn't mac Jones' fault.
Like he threw for three nineteen and three touchdowns. It's
his third three hundred yard game of the year. How
many does Bryce have?
Speaker 5 (22:57):
None?
Speaker 3 (22:57):
So like, first of all, I think if they let
Mac Jones, if Mac Jones ends up anywhere, Ma's gonna
want to end up in a place where he can
compete for a starting job based on what he's doing
right here, right now. So you're not bringing back in
this scenario that people are asking about, you're not bringing
mac Jones in. I think just as your backup. I
wouldn't think you'd be signing Mac Jones to come in
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and have a full blown competition with Bryce Young and
I could get down with that, wouldn't bother me?
Speaker 5 (23:26):
Now?
Speaker 3 (23:26):
Is there a better option out there? Off the top
of your head? Smoke in terms of because you and
I both typically agree, Al didn't seem to fully agree.
Al thinks it's still possible to go back into the
draft looking for a quarterback. Everybody's got opinions. I bet
they don't, but Al could be right about that. Yeah, well,
I think usually you should have that mindset. But here's
the problem with that mindset. You're not picking in the
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top ten most likely.
Speaker 6 (23:50):
And have you seen the quarterbacks that are after the
top ten quarterbacks or top two quarterbacks into draft. We're
not talking about Mendoza, like, for example, Tanka von currently
has Mendoza as the number two overall pick, Dante Moore
is like a top five pick, and Ty Simpson here
to quarterbacks after Fernando Mendoza, Dante Moore type Simpsons, which
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if we're going to see right now, those are likely
going to be the top three quarterbacks taken, and they'll
be in the top ten to twelve after that. Leonora
Sellers don't know if he's even going into the NFL
draft this year. That's how the season's gone for him.
John Mattier, I mean, he's had his moments, but he's
kind of faded.
Speaker 5 (24:29):
Away here as of late. Is he healthy.
Speaker 6 (24:33):
That's also another question. Garrett Nusmeyer talking about stock that's tanked.
Speaker 3 (24:40):
One of these guys is going to work out in
the NFL.
Speaker 6 (24:42):
Jandon Mayava Miyava Mayava interests me, but he's also still
relatively new playing quarterback at USC. Then you have Carson
Beck too many turnovers, Brandon Soarsby, he barely froze the ball,
Drew Aller, I mean, holy crap, his stock is tunk.
Speaker 3 (25:00):
Tank stock is tunked, tunked, It's stunk.
Speaker 6 (25:03):
It's tank two. Kate club Nick, same thing. And Josh Hoover,
who's always been a mid round guy. Yeah, who's in
that group that you would say? Yeah, I really want
to say, and he's immediately going to replace Price. Yeah,
Dinno just said. Sam Howe was the answer his season long.
He says his pick problem can be fixed, Yeah, but
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why can't he get a helmet in Philly? I'm I
would be open to bringing him into the room as
a backup, yes, but I don't know. You're not bringing
Sam in to be like, hey, compete with Bryce as
a starter like Sam led the NFL in interceptions. You
say the pick problem can be fixed, but I don't
know about that. I'm interested.
Speaker 3 (25:42):
I'm not shutting you down and saying no, but I've
got some mixed thoughts on Sam Howe. Let's take some
phone calls. Alex is up first, Alex, what's going on?
Speaker 7 (25:51):
Hey?
Speaker 8 (25:51):
How you doing?
Speaker 4 (25:52):
Kyle? Happy birthday? See man?
Speaker 5 (25:53):
Thanks problem.
Speaker 4 (25:55):
I've been a.
Speaker 9 (25:56):
Pantheras fan for I want to say ten to fifteen years. Man,
I've been watching this thing when it's good, when it's bad.
I be honest with you, Bryce John he's averaging one
hundred and eighty.
Speaker 4 (26:04):
Four yards per game. You gotta get rid of him.
Speaker 9 (26:07):
It's our quarterback.
Speaker 7 (26:08):
Man.
Speaker 4 (26:09):
I would go with Mac Jones. He in a two
year deal.
Speaker 9 (26:11):
I sign him for you know, something of around ten
to fifteen million. I'll resign rico' dado. And also, this
is what I would look for if you can't get
those two guys. I know it's controversial, but we got
a good defense, you got a good offense. Maybe draft
a tight end for security blanket for the next quarterback.
But I would try to bring in, you know, a
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Chador as a backup. And I will also try to
look at Royola from Nebraska in.
Speaker 8 (26:39):
A couple of years.
Speaker 4 (26:39):
That kid's gonna be good.
Speaker 9 (26:40):
He's not all the way there yet, but he's averaging
more than one hundred and eighty four yards per game,
and I think in college me in the NFL, he's
gonna process a little bit faster. I just don't see
it from Bryce.
Speaker 4 (26:51):
Too many mistakes.
Speaker 9 (26:52):
He doesn't push it a ball downfield, he missed Cocher
on some on a third down, he missed Exile last week,
and I think he just not fit for the NFL game.
I think in college, yeah, he's good, but I just
don't see it in the games he had success, we.
Speaker 4 (27:07):
Were down and we were trailing.
Speaker 9 (27:09):
So I don't think he knows how to lead a
football team. And I think Bryce is just I don't
believe in Bryce. I said it from day one when
he was drafted. We should have went it with CJ.
CJ a little bit more of a dual threat. I
feel like you put more pieces around CJ. Stroud, he
would have been a better situation. But you know that's
neither here nor there. And I just think if we
get somebody and also make Jones. He's averaging two ten
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a game passon yard and he's a smart quarterback, just
a filler until we get the quarterback we're really looking for,
and you know that's all you get from me, and
hey man, happy birthday again.
Speaker 3 (27:42):
Oh you brother, appreciate the phone call. There's a lot there.
I can't get to it all. I'm listening to him
talk and I'm just thinking to myself, Okay, mac Jones
has resuscitated his career in San Francisco, gonna land himself.
He's under contract next year, by the way. Now it's
a very cheap contract, and so he can he dealt
for and probably will be by somebody. I would imagine
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they might keep him, but I would imagine somebody's dealing
for him. What does Bryce look like in the Shanahan system.
We'll never know, but I think about that a lot,
probably more than I should.
Speaker 6 (28:16):
Well, And it's like, all right, so you don't want
to keep this guy around, but you want to go
take a guy whose career has now been rejuvenated after
leaving a situation and has taken more time. Who's one
of the best quarterbacks in the NFL this year, Kyle
Daniel Jones. Did they just throw him out and like
he was nothing in New York after years of trying
to work him out, they did.
Speaker 5 (28:36):
Yeah.
Speaker 6 (28:37):
By the way, who's the best quarterback in the NFC
South right now? Baker Mayfield? Yeah, thrown out twice out
yea yeah. Oh, by the way, Seattle's been really good
this year. Who's your quarterback?
Speaker 3 (28:48):
Sam Donald?
Speaker 6 (28:49):
Sam Donald? He was thrown out a couple of times
and people would discard him. People thought he was the
anti Christ at one point here this year where he
was trying to tell people to strap it on if
he was wanting to talk crap about him.
Speaker 5 (28:57):
Yeah. So that's four quarterbacks right there.
Speaker 6 (29:00):
We got to get out of this mindset of the
twenty tens quarterback mindset that we were in with the
CBA when it got signed to where if you didn't
have a superstar quarterback, you were screwed, go to the
draft and try to save your life. We're back into
today's word. There's gonna be a true middle class of quarterbacks.
Is Bryce Young good enough right now? No, he's not.
Speaker 5 (29:18):
But guess what.
Speaker 6 (29:18):
You put yourself in a situation where you can't trade
up for a quarterback because you're too good of a
team right now to trade up for a quarterback and
without giving up a load of assets, and you're also
there's no quarterback in free agency that's going to save you.
Speaker 5 (29:31):
So get that for your skull.
Speaker 3 (29:33):
I just get it for your skull.
Speaker 5 (29:36):
What you won't Russell Wilson is.
Speaker 3 (29:38):
Going fight with the people on the text line for
a second. They're gonna that are gonna fight with you
on this while I take John's phone. Call John, what's
going on, buddy?
Speaker 2 (29:46):
I completely disagree with that mind. I mean, you just
lost to a quarterback that was drafted in the second round.
Just because you're not drafted in the top ten doesn't
mean you don't have the ability to draft a quarterback
in the future. And just because you name four quarterbacks
that have been resurrected, I can name a dozen quarterbacks
that didn't work out either. So I mean every case
(30:08):
is an individual case. Just let's don't let's don't pick
and choose here, Let's evaluate what you have. And also,
those people got better when they went somewhere else, not
when they say what the team they were at, either,
So that the examples are completely irrelevant in my mind.
Speaker 3 (30:23):
I don't think though, I don't think they're irrelevant, but
I think I think you're pushback survey. It's not irrelevant
when it's happened here twice in the last five years.
He's got a point on that job.
Speaker 2 (30:30):
The point is they didn't work out. Ear They didn't
work out ear right.
Speaker 3 (30:34):
But isn't that the organization's fault.
Speaker 2 (30:36):
But sure, maybe, but the organization has changed as well.
Those are different coaches, those are different scenarios. I'm tired
of using all this stuff in the past. Wet's live
in the moment here, So let's live with the coach
and the players and the management we have now. I
don't care what happened five six.
Speaker 5 (30:52):
Years ago, So hang on.
Speaker 6 (30:53):
I do need to ask you though, because you're saying,
let's live in the present now. So if you said
this is a changed organization, don't you think they should
give him another shot instead of throwing him out with
the bathwater like the previous organizations did.
Speaker 5 (31:04):
Here.
Speaker 2 (31:04):
I don't think anybody's saying throw them out, but you
could still draft somebody. They didn't throw spinc or Rattler out,
but they still drafted somebody. Yes, here, figure it out.
You get somebody in there and get competition. Nobody's saying
cut them tomorrow.
Speaker 3 (31:17):
Yeah, I'm with you on that. I got no problem
with what you're saying there you want to draft, you
want to draft a guy in the second or third round.
I got no problem with that. Sure, yeah, yeah, thank you, John.
Appreciate the phone call. Look, I'm with you that part.
We one hundred percent agree on John. Thank you, Brother,
appreciate the phone call. In the interest of time, who's
your Bobby's index? Bobby? What's going on?
Speaker 5 (31:36):
Brother?
Speaker 4 (31:37):
Happy forty is KB?
Speaker 5 (31:38):
Thank you? Bud.
Speaker 1 (31:40):
Hey, I'm knocking on the door of sixtieth milestone. So
my advice to you is keep doing what you're doing,
enjoy the ride, cherish, treasure all the gifts that you
have in your life. So what you came on board
I mentioned in twenty seventeen at the Palm for the
Night at the Panthers.
Speaker 3 (31:56):
Sounds about right.
Speaker 4 (31:57):
So yeah, I've gotten to know you very well all
over the years. Really enjoyed it.
Speaker 1 (32:02):
And I'll add onto what Patrick said. And I've said
this to you before, but I think it warn't saying
it again on your fortieth birthday. You've got so much
reach and positive impact in so many lives in so
many ways with your talent that I speak for everybody
that I really appreciate what you do and what Smoke does, and.
Speaker 2 (32:21):
You just you're great, that's all easy.
Speaker 3 (32:23):
I appreciate that.
Speaker 1 (32:25):
Yeah, But on the mellow, I'm glad to here he's
going to be back at practice.
Speaker 4 (32:31):
You mentioned the other day. Is that chronic?
Speaker 1 (32:33):
Well, if it flares up again, then yes, it is chronic.
And if that's the case, they're gonna have to do
a deep guve into the anatomy on that ankle and
find a program that's going to mitigate whatever's driving those issues,
because otherwise you're just gonna have to discard him.
Speaker 5 (32:49):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (32:50):
Right, you have any takes on the quarterback situation.
Speaker 1 (32:53):
You know, I don't mind that Stam Howe in the
room idea. I don't want to. I don't want to
be a competition, but I don't mind that, or like
previous callers, I wouldn't mind.
Speaker 4 (33:00):
You know, taking one in the second or third round.
Speaker 5 (33:02):
Okay, all right, Bobby at the beach, we need some entering.
Speaker 3 (33:05):
The appreciate you, Bob, I appreciate you. But Bobby, who's
your Bobby checking in? Let's do this. We'll hit a break,
we'll come back, we'll squeeze in the final phone call, Smoke.
Let's go to the headlines.
Speaker 6 (33:16):
All right, speaking of LaMelo Ball, he is officially going
to be out for tomorrow's game against Milwaukee, So don't
know if that means he'll be still available for the
Friday game on the road in Milwaukee, but he is
not going to be playing the front end of this
home and home against the Bucks. Almost called them the Brewers,
Samander injury note news, Pat Content, Colin Sexton, and kJ
(33:37):
Simpson are all probable.
Speaker 5 (33:38):
Pat Connaton's illness.
Speaker 6 (33:40):
Colin Sexton right ankle sprain, kJ Simpson left ac joint spring.
Speaker 3 (33:45):
Okay, we'll come back. We'll take some phone calls. Wrap
up the show. Sports Radio ninety two seven wfn Z.
Speaker 4 (33:58):
Big toss of the case.
Speaker 5 (33:59):
But for the rages teams, I can't be.
Speaker 4 (34:02):
You can try to get down. Oh will you failed this?
Speaker 5 (34:03):
See the world can't be say the streets.
Speaker 7 (34:05):
Is cool with the world.
Speaker 5 (34:06):
That's off for the week, so.
Speaker 4 (34:07):
They after the week in the lamb of the Lambs.
I amn't I be damn from.
Speaker 5 (34:10):
Show My Run and Shools Shols.
Speaker 3 (34:13):
All right, quick reminder coming up in forty five minutes
here on the station. Actually let me do this thirteen
minutes from now. An abbreviated instant replay of what you've
missed so far Today on WFNZ At six point thirty,
we've got the pregame show on the Charlotte forty nine
Ers Radio Network ahead of a seven o'clock tip of
a battle between Charlotte and Davidson, the battle for the
(34:33):
Hornets Nest Trophy, respectfully, the ugliest trophy in sports? What
ad Matt d Alerty call it a couple of years ago.
He basically I think he kind of said something to
the effective poop on the floor. Yeah, shout out, Travis
Crawford gets the poop on the Floor trophy. It's funny,
you know, listen, you want to win it. But Charlotte
and Davidson tonight the Hornets Nest Trophy. You can hear
it right here on WFNZ, the Charlotte forty nine Ers
(34:56):
Radio Network call with Matt Swearad. Make sure to be
here six pre game seven o'clock tip.
Speaker 6 (35:01):
Yeah, both teams come into this game two and o.
Davison beat the Sallas and they actually beat Washington State
eighty five sixty nine. Charlotte's gotten off to a two
and no start as well, with victories over Indiana State No.
They did not play Larry Bird and a five point
victory over Tennessee Tech bouth Ford.
Speaker 5 (35:18):
Your coaches in different, very intriguing game.
Speaker 6 (35:22):
Pretties too, because I think this will give us a
good idea of what both of these teams will be like.
Speaker 5 (35:26):
Once conference play rolls around in two months.
Speaker 3 (35:28):
All right, let's take a couple of phone calls and
wrap up the show. Rod is up first here in
the final segment, Rod, what's going on?
Speaker 2 (35:34):
Oh?
Speaker 8 (35:34):
First off, happy birthday, man, I just liked your post
on Instagram.
Speaker 5 (35:40):
Let's go all the pigs.
Speaker 8 (35:42):
Yeah, sir, beautiful, Everything was beautiful. Man. I'm a few
months behind you. So everybody who's out there listening. By
the way, this dude is Jack. Just so you guys know,
so do not get out of pocket on this phone.
I did want to say, you know, first off, Nick
(36:03):
cornon mant's say it to the team too. If you
say it out in the public, fine, but please say
it in that locker room, saying to them, boy, the
men and those in that locker room. I hope he
went in there and lit through them before or after
that interview, And if he did, I'm one hundred percent
cool with it. You know, be a leader, young fellaw.
(36:25):
I all of us, you know, all of us were
talking now about Bryce and do we want Bryce. You know,
it's interesting how his rookie year right after all of
us callers where, oh, he's not it, he can't, he's
not gonna make it, and all of the NFL experts
were hang on, just back, you know, take it easy.
(36:45):
We got to see. Now you're starting to hear some
of the NFL guys say, all right, he you know,
maybe not he's It's almost like they've done their evaluation
and now they see, you know, okay, maybe he's so,
maybe he's not. When you hear a guy like Al
Wallace say what he just said, it's hard for me
to make the case that he's still the guy. I
(37:07):
still think he has some quality even as a backup.
I think he's a guy that could do you like
Nick Foles, come in there mid season, take you all
the way, might even win your trophy. But if you
guys want to talk about another quarterback, now I can
tell I can point you to another quarterback. If that's
what we really won't saw it. Now there's a guy
(37:30):
out there, and another caller already said it. The door, Sandy.
Nobody places the ball, in my opinion, nobody places the
ball where it needs to be back to her. Then
Shador does. If you watch his throws, if he has
time protection, that kid makes throws. Man, And the only
(37:50):
thing I would say, Cam has spoiled me. Man, I
want a big guy back there running the ball, a quarterback.
Speaker 3 (37:57):
Hear I He'll do Okay.
Speaker 8 (37:59):
Yeah, thanks y'all. Enjoy your b day.
Speaker 3 (38:00):
Man, Thank you brother, you're the best.
Speaker 5 (38:02):
Rod.
Speaker 3 (38:02):
I appreciate that. I gotta be honest with you. I
love everything you said up until that point. I am
not interested in the Shador Sanders business.
Speaker 5 (38:08):
I'm not.
Speaker 3 (38:08):
I think there are far better options out there. Wish
him the best, and honestly, Rod, like again, we agree
on a lot of things. But if he was that good,
I think he'd be playing already. I just that's my opinion.
And I've people I'm sure will come out of left
field to accuse me of whatever they want to. I've
always said nice things about the kid. I have, but
(38:29):
there's a reason he's not playing in Cleveland. There's just
a reason some smokes miming over there, all right. Last
call of the day goes to DJ DJ, what's going on?
Speaker 7 (38:38):
Oh yeah, what's that?
Speaker 6 (38:39):
Man?
Speaker 7 (38:40):
I'm a double down on what he just said.
Speaker 8 (38:42):
Early.
Speaker 7 (38:43):
Everything he's saying right there, I agree with it. But
here's the issue. Cleland sucks. They always so you got this,
how many quarterback Cam Cleveland and successfully developed? See, you
gotta have the right organization to develop a young quarterback
(39:03):
and clean it? Ain't it? So they don't know what
they're doing. No way now, Carolina. I mean there's so
much in the same a same fashion. But I mean,
y'all did have Cam with Cam Newton. So I'm looking
at you know, so door like you come to Carolina,
the hype getting behind him. You got a pretty good
(39:24):
quarterback coach. Uh, you know, doesn't mean you gotta put
him out there right all? Bet you make the trade,
you put him, you put him behind on Bright young
and you know you let it, you let it, you
let it. Still, let's see what happened.
Speaker 3 (39:40):
A lot of sdure love on the phone lines today, DJ,
I appreciate you brother. You have a good eating to
my man. Thank you for the phone call. We can
talk about it tomorrow. We'll get well, there's no time left.
We can talk about it tomorrow. No time for the
rewind either. But if you missed any part of the show.
Al Wallace was great, that's worth your time. Back at
five o'clock. Ryan McGee all great. Nick Carbony awesome in
(40:02):
the first hour of the show. Get us wherever you
get your podcasts, Apple, Spotify, Google, just search the Kyle
Bailey Show, download and subscribe. We sure would appreciate it,
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Smoke what you got.
Speaker 6 (40:20):
Tip my cap to you, man, It's been an incredible
right so far, hopefully many more years to come.
Speaker 5 (40:25):
Happy for to you.
Speaker 3 (40:26):
Thank you, buddy. I'll tip my cap to my wife
for an awesome surprise party over the weekend. I don't
think I did that yesterday, and I probably should. She
also texted me earlier today was listening to the show
for the first time in forever and said, respectfully, Babe,
these blue shoo ads are getting out of pocket. That's
what she told me earlier. I didn't tell you this.
It's the first time I'm bringing it up, but she
(40:47):
texted me an hour ago and said, respectfully, Babe, these
blue schoe ads are getting out of control. So tip
of the cap to my wife for putting up with me.
Back tomorrow, don't forget six thirty pre games seven o'clock
tip the Hornet's Nest Trophy two and O Davidson two
and O Charlotte. The forty nine Ers Radio Network broadcast
about thirty five minutes out keep it right here, Sports
(41:08):
Radio ninety two seven WFNZ Come after me.
Speaker 8 (41:12):
I'm a man, I'm forty
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