October 2, 2025 • 47 mins
Carlos Alcaraz' withdrawal from Shanghai has given Jannik Sinner a chance to claim the year-end No.1 ranking. Brie is joined by AusOpen.com’s Matt Trollope, data guru Levi Huddleston, and Aussie tennis legend John Fitzgerald to discuss the big news to come out of the Asian swing. The panel dissects the rise of Beijing finalist Learner Tien and Eva Lys, and takes a close look at Coco Gauff’s game as the WTA finals approach. Plus, Rhys de Deugd checks in from Shanghai and Brie puts the rest to the test in her quiz!
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Speaker 1 (00:03):
Hello, and welcome to the Jenners Race to the finish.
Speaker 2 (00:06):
Ken Acroz hold on for year end world number one,
Can Coco kick the yips? Golf attempting to rekindle the
flame in Beijing and shaping up for Shanghai? Will Djokovic
meet Sinner in a semi final?
Speaker 1 (00:19):
That's all ahead with me. I am Briece Stewart.
Speaker 2 (00:22):
Zave is not here today because he is on holidays again,
so I have a very capable co host with me today.
It is Mattrolope from our sister podcast, The sit Down.
Thanks for trusting me, Brick, good to have you. I
love it when we do this together. Then we have
the man who spins numbers into golden stories.
Speaker 1 (00:42):
It's Levi Huddleston.
Speaker 2 (00:43):
Hey you guys, and back by popular demand, Aussie tennis
legend turned commentator.
Speaker 1 (00:53):
We've got Fitzi, John Fitzgerald.
Speaker 3 (00:56):
Thank you, bre I think you're stretching the truth there,
popular demand real? Yes, absolutely, Gee, I'm missing something.
Speaker 2 (01:01):
I'll send you the YouTube comments. I've been asking for you.
But it's great to see you.
Speaker 3 (01:05):
What have you been on to, I mean, just welcoming
more grand children into the world. Yeah, it's been a
busy time for my family. So we're yeah, we're all
pretty excited. Three grandsons in till a forty years.
Speaker 1 (01:19):
Wow, that's good male Jean producing.
Speaker 4 (01:23):
I didn't know there was that's ferility in my family.
We're pretty happy. It's been a joy.
Speaker 5 (01:30):
I bet you're a great grandfather.
Speaker 4 (01:32):
Depends who you ask.
Speaker 2 (01:34):
Okay, good listen, we'll find it. Suit and Leve. You're
famous for data storytelling apparently a good story.
Speaker 6 (01:43):
Not a lot of faith than that.
Speaker 7 (01:46):
I think probably most of it comes in like do
you have the data or not? And then yeah, there's
maybe the interest in the subject matter.
Speaker 2 (01:53):
You have to have that ye passion for it, I think,
and obviously you do, or you just have for fun.
Speaker 6 (02:00):
I think I really do enjoy tennis.
Speaker 5 (02:01):
Yeah, you're a very passionate tennis and player.
Speaker 6 (02:04):
I do like to play. I think that's where it
stems from.
Speaker 8 (02:07):
Great.
Speaker 5 (02:08):
Well, lucky you work here. We've got in our.
Speaker 6 (02:12):
Backyard to get to get after five pm.
Speaker 7 (02:15):
Though, you got to really yeah true, be close on
that book button.
Speaker 5 (02:18):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (02:19):
I actually saw you walking to play the other day.
I was like, oh, there he goes off into the distance.
Speaker 5 (02:24):
With his racket.
Speaker 2 (02:25):
Anyway, let's get into what's caught your eye, and we're
going to start with you fit sick because I believe
you're talking a little bit about acraz Is historic season.
Speaker 4 (02:32):
Well, what a player he's turning out to be.
Speaker 3 (02:35):
You know, it's hard to believe we've got two very
similar potential players in center and our croz after we
had so long with the top three. And he continues
to improve. You know, a big believer in sport and
other things that if you don't improve, you go backwards.
(02:56):
If you stay the same, you go backwards. So he
is continuing to improve. His game's getting better. I mean
that US Open, So he played some extraordinary stuff at
the US Open. And he's having the biggest year obviously
in his young career. He's got a lot of years
to go yet before you can really you can compare
him with the other three for a smaller window, because
(03:19):
he's as good as they were at the beginning of
his career. But he's got a long way to go.
Longevity will play the biggest role in this. But how
good is he? And he's won eight tournaments now in
one calendar year, first time he's done it. Some of
them have been Masters Series. I mean Monte Carlo Rome.
He's obviously won Roland Garrison. He won the US Open
(03:41):
as well, so a year that he will never forget.
And I don't know that gives you leverage to change
your hairstyle.
Speaker 4 (03:47):
I'misure I had that leverage.
Speaker 6 (03:50):
Did you go see the hatchhog? That's someone different ch.
Speaker 7 (03:54):
It looks just like his hair as like had his
spiky silver hair.
Speaker 2 (03:58):
Yes, And he just started cracking up very good. And
he is such a good character in tennis, isn't he. Yeah,
because he's twenty three at the moment, is that right?
Twenty two, So he's potentially got seventeen years left to
go to reach where Novak's at. Well, when you think
about it, like that Novak who's still playing at thirty.
Speaker 5 (04:16):
Nine, Yes, I think that actually blows my mind. It
is mind blowing to watch them when they played in
the US Open semi final. And I know they played
a lot of grand slame matches, but you have to
remind yourself sometimes, Oh, you've got this twenty two year
old playing someone who's sixteen, almost seventeen years older than him.
The intergenerational clash between them. It's amazing actually that Jokovic
(04:36):
is still around two face Alkoraz and Cinner, but it
is I think you just go, oh, they're two top
players playing each other, but Novak's not far away from
being double his age. That's incredible. Like I always think
that's a really cool plot line whenever they do play.
But what you said Fitzy two as well, he is
so talented and he's improving, And I think one of
the things he's improved the most is his consistency and
(04:58):
how he doesn't have dips anymore. Because when he first
came onto the scene, he had all that talent, he
could play all the shots, his upper level was great,
but then you know, there was the inconsistency within matches
or from tournament to tournament. And now he's like, he's
only lost twice since eight Pril, Like he's so locked in.
He barely dropped a set at the US Open. It
was his most efficient way of getting through. And I
(05:18):
think that's what's taken him to the next level.
Speaker 3 (05:20):
Yeah, I think two years ago I had not doubts,
but I thought he's so he loves using flare so much.
He tries all sorts of amazing sort of shot selections,
and I thought, gee, that'll cost him matches as time
goes on, because how can you put all those how
can you try all that those different types of approaches
(05:42):
to the sport and not make more mistakes than someone
who's a bit like center, who's more solid, if I
may say that, meaning he hits the ball the same
way repetitively, but he does it so well. So that's
where his strength is. But the flare that this kid
has our careers is extraordinary, and I thought it would
hold him back a little bit in big matches because
(06:04):
he'd make too many mistakes, Matt. But now, just as
you said, he's he's cut out a lot of those errors.
He's still be able to use his flare and all
of the variety that he's got, but he's not making mistakes.
Speaker 4 (06:17):
It's working all the time.
Speaker 7 (06:19):
Well yeah, I mean on that you can just look
at the numbers and he's making more winners and last
unforced errors if you compare a year and year.
Speaker 6 (06:26):
So he's like, it's not just what you think. It's like,
it's actually there in the datas.
Speaker 5 (06:30):
I'm glad to have back up on that, because it's
like a perception. You watch and you go, you feel it,
but when the numbers reflected and his increased serving as well.
That has just made him clicking through service games. It
sets and it gives him easy like you know, weaker
returns and he can finish points faster, and it all
builds from the serve.
Speaker 3 (06:46):
Yeah, all of that gives me joy as a tennis
admirer and someone who cares about the sport. But what
I really like at the end of the day is
how much he and Sinner both respect the sport.
Speaker 4 (06:57):
Gee.
Speaker 3 (06:57):
I love that, and so therefore they're going to be
good for the sport for a long period of time.
Speaker 4 (07:02):
But there's a lot of miles to go yet.
Speaker 3 (07:04):
Yeah, to catch up, to catch up with Djokovic to
still be playing at that age age is extraordinary in itself,
so there's no guarantee that these two younger players will.
Speaker 5 (07:14):
Still make it age.
Speaker 2 (07:15):
That's the thing that I keep thinking about and I
kind of want to talk about. And I think this
starts to get into what caught your eye to Matt. Obviously,
OCAs is pulled out of Shanghai because of some potential
injury with his ankle, and then I think that this
kind of takeways into what caught your eye with where
we at with yes, the runners.
Speaker 1 (07:34):
The limit the race race, not the runners the race,
but they.
Speaker 5 (07:38):
Are runners in the race to year and number one,
so they are they have elevated themselves Inner and Alcoraz
so far above the rest of the field. They've split
the four majors this year as they did last year,
and so now it's looking like who will finish the
year number one? Last year it was Sinner. Oh, we've
got it up on the screen. Got up on the screen,
so it looks our listeners at home, that will explain it.
So Alcarez is now number one. He took over the
(07:59):
number one from Sinner after winning the US Open. Interestingly,
I think it was two years since Alcarez had been
number one. But so yes, very close in the points
race there. But what the points race reflects is actually
the last fifty two weeks of tennis. So Sinner remains
very close to Alcarez because of what he did at
the back end of twenty twenty four I think won
the ATP finals, he won Shanghai, which is underway this week.
(08:22):
If we flip to the race, so we see that
Alcorz is a lot further in front. The race is
calculated on points earned from the beginning of the season,
so twenty twenty five alone, So this is where we
see what you were talking about. Fitzi alcarazz eight titles,
ten finals has been the dominant player and is two
and a half thousand points clear of Sinner, But with
Alcarez pulling out of Shanghai this week, Sinner has an
(08:46):
opportunity to close that gap. If he wins Shanghai, he
wins a thousand points and so that gap will close
to fifteen hundred points and then yeah, a few more
tournaments to play for that battle for year A number
one and Paris Masters ATP five finals a few more
five hundred, so a lot has to go right for Sinner.
But this gives us a bit of a look of
where they are currently standing. Alchorizing pole position to finish
(09:08):
the year number one, but he hasn't got it locked in.
Speaker 3 (09:11):
No, But this race to t'rein list is more significant
in terms of who will finish. Yes, the number at
number one at the end of the year, so he's
got a big gap. He's got two and a half
thousand points there. Yannik is defending, so he's fifty two
week rotating ranking is a lot closer, yes to Carlos,
(09:32):
but he's got to defend a win in Shanghai and
a win at at the Year End Championships to stay
the same on that other list. So yeah, and if
you can imagine Carlos, if he does well at the
Year End Championships, he's going to be very hard.
Speaker 4 (09:47):
Very very hard to stop it.
Speaker 5 (09:48):
Yes, and this list actually is Yes, this is the race,
as it says on the tab, the race of you're
in this will determine the eight the eight finalists at
the Year End Championships is an eight player tournament. Sinner
and Alchoriz have already confirmed their places in the field.
Zverev is next in line, and Jokovic they're actually on
very equal points and Lorenzo Muzeti in eighth place now
to get that final spot. So this is what's really
(10:10):
also interesting at this time of years, like who's going
to claim those final spots? They're trying to get into
that tournament so prestigious, open only to the the world's
best players. So yeah, that's a really cool plotline to
watch it as well.
Speaker 1 (10:21):
The difference between number one and two is so drastic
compared toive numbers three, day.
Speaker 5 (10:27):
Yes, yeah, in terms of points, and that reflects how
just how dominant have been they've they've won like a
four thousand. Yeah, they've won the last eight mates between them,
and they've played in the last three Grand Slam finals.
They are they're holding all the biggest titles. So we're
waiting to see that challenger will be.
Speaker 9 (10:47):
Hello everyone, I'm just really disappointed to announced that I
wouldn't be playing on the roles and I Master this year.
As you know, I've been struggling physically during this week
here and just how to withdraw from from the tournament
that is Sanghay. I was really looking forward to playing
(11:08):
from of the Sanghai fans that I love playing in
front of them last year. So I will be back
to to recover and be as good as I can
as soon as possible, but hopefully playing in front of
the Shanghai e fans you know, next next year.
Speaker 4 (11:29):
Looking forward for that.
Speaker 9 (11:30):
So sorry for having to to withdraw.
Speaker 5 (11:35):
How happy do we think?
Speaker 2 (11:36):
Well, obviously since it's not happy that his comrade is injured,
but this obviously is the exciting component for Soner.
Speaker 5 (11:44):
Is that Yeah, it's a crist isn't it. Shanghai it's
an opportunity for him to gain ground, and he won
this tournament last year, so obviously it's a pretty happy
hunting ground for him. Hardcourt's his best surface. But he
won't obviously probably won't want to see a friendly rival
being insured and skipping a tournament because they do love
playing each rubbing his hands get the I mean, it's.
Speaker 7 (12:05):
Kind of like maybe you know, Fat and the doll.
It was like sinner'skryptone is al Chiaz, So it probably is.
Speaker 6 (12:12):
He's a little bit relieved. Maybe good work. He doesn't
have to probably face him.
Speaker 5 (12:17):
And in terms of what Alchariz just said, length of
the season, the amount of tennis's played, FITZI, is this
the right decision to skip Shanghai, Well, if.
Speaker 4 (12:25):
His body's not right, it would be.
Speaker 3 (12:27):
I mean, I'm not across exactly how he's feeling right now,
but if he you know, he heard it in the
first round of Tokyo, got through that tournament. So look,
it's a long season and then you know what they're
going to get to the end of the season. They're
not going to have much of a break before the
start of the next season.
Speaker 6 (12:42):
Here or something.
Speaker 3 (12:43):
They get very little time, so you need to manage.
He's going to have to manage for another twelve or
fourteen years.
Speaker 4 (12:50):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (12:50):
Yeah, And speaking of that camaraderie and house cinner wouldn't
be rubbing his hands together as I had suspected that
our Kaz is not playing. Shanghai Sina did defeat Leerna
Tan in Beijing, So let's throw to a bit of
a video paying tribute to ten and the champion speech.
Speaker 5 (13:11):
I would like to.
Speaker 10 (13:12):
Start with Learner and your whole team. I know you
have a great theme behind you. You are showing throughout.
Speaker 6 (13:19):
The whole season.
Speaker 10 (13:20):
What what tlan you are just keep going. You're you're
playing an incredible tennis So wish you only the best
for the for the rest of the season and obviously
for your for your whole career. And hopefully we can
share some some some other moments like this in the
in the future.
Speaker 5 (13:37):
So learn a Tan.
Speaker 2 (13:39):
He's he kind of broke through I think at the
AO this year.
Speaker 7 (13:42):
Yeah tell me LEVI, Well, he's just such an interesting character.
And I you know, he beat Medvedev at the AO
and I was like, okay, I've got to go watch
him play. So then I went and watched his next
his next match, and he was so fun to watch
because he just always extends these rallies and really long,
and so he have these great rallies to watch. And
(14:03):
I think the fun thing about him is he's really
clever in terms of his tactics, and yeah, he just
has this kryptonite against top players.
Speaker 2 (14:14):
Especially Medvedev. Right he's coming for us, especially especially Medvedev.
It seems to be his weakness. But yeah, he has
a really great record against top ten players. Now it's
five and three.
Speaker 7 (14:25):
It was five and two before he played Yonick center,
so he's actually gotten the most wins off the top
ten than any other player except for Yick and Alcoraz.
Speaker 4 (14:34):
So kind of.
Speaker 7 (14:35):
Interesting and you got to wonder, Okay, well, what what
is ten doing?
Speaker 6 (14:39):
So yeah, we did.
Speaker 7 (14:40):
We took a little bit of a look, and it's
he's just he's playing above his level, like when he
plays the top ten, which is maybe there's a little
bit of freedom in that when you're like, Okay, I'm
playing someone I don't have anything to hold back, but
he is. He's beating his average. And usually would think
if you're playing someone who's in the top ten, some
(15:02):
of your stats are going to drop a little bit
because they're so good. But it's like his stats actually
elevate when he plays them, so it's it's pretty interesting.
He in like rallies that go really long, So over
nine he wins seventy percent of those rallies when facing
top ten players. That's incredible for someone who's like he's
(15:23):
still a teenager, isn't he's nineteen?
Speaker 5 (15:25):
Yeah, yeah, and hadn't played a top ten player. I
don't think until this year. Maybe you would imagine the
experience all the you know, the more runs in the
board physically with those top players would outlast the teenager.
That's that's staggering.
Speaker 6 (15:40):
Yeah, no, it is.
Speaker 7 (15:41):
And he's got Michael Chang now came on as a
coach and was there in Beijing, so he's got a
lot of good support. He's got a great head on
his shoulders. But yeah, he's just he's finding his forehand.
He's hitting it a little bit faster than he was.
A lot of people would describe him maybe as a pusher,
as a grinder, but if you watched the final against Cinner,
(16:02):
he's actually like really going for his shots. He's finding
his serve a little bit more. But Yeah, he's just
a talented player, and he has his mentality where he
converts on breakpoints, so he's like a forty eight percent
breakpoint conversion rate versus the tour averages thirty eight and
that's against the top ten, so he's like, he's just
really good against the top ten.
Speaker 6 (16:24):
But I don't know.
Speaker 7 (16:26):
I think time will tell to see, you know, where
does Tien go because there are some weaknesses to his game,
which I think Cinner kind of exposed a little bit.
You know, he doesn't have the strongest serve. He's about
twenty k's below the tour average there, so he has
some room to improve in terms of his serve speed.
So there's there's some stuff that he needs to work on.
(16:48):
His double faults often are higher than his aces, so
just he could improve I think the serve there.
Speaker 6 (16:55):
But he's nineteen, so I don't know. I think he
has the mentality of someone much more.
Speaker 4 (17:00):
Well. I was very impressed with him.
Speaker 3 (17:01):
I saw the Medvedev match last year and it seems
like a riper young kid too, a really nice.
Speaker 1 (17:07):
He's actually really nice.
Speaker 4 (17:09):
Yeah, so he's going to be a great addition to
the men's tour. He already is.
Speaker 3 (17:14):
I find those stats quite amazing. That he can perform
better against the better players.
Speaker 4 (17:20):
That's not normal, No, it's not. And what that tells
you is.
Speaker 3 (17:23):
That, you know, when the big moments arrive, it looks
like he's got what it takes. But yeah, he's going
to have to continue to improve, and I could see
how someone with the power of Sinner.
Speaker 4 (17:33):
Might just overpower him a little bit.
Speaker 3 (17:36):
But under pressure, you know, against Medvedev that was a classic.
A young kid who could stand up to five sets
late at night, under pressure and beat someone who'd been
in a couple of Austra and Open finals. It was very,
very impressive, and so I'm so interested in where he
goes over the next sort of I guess twenty four
to thirty six months.
Speaker 5 (17:57):
The first time I saw team play was here. He
made the junior boys final in twenty twenty three, so
we got a little Obviously has a very like a
good relationship with this tournament. It's carried on into the
professional the profession, like the men's event. But yeah, I
think you're making a junior grandson final is certainly an
indicator of talent. But yeah, seeing that kind of core
craftiness at that age he's got the left handed advantage,
(18:18):
which you know that that's just built even if his
serve might be the stats might be down sometimes that
I'm not sure if the data reflexes, but you can
that disadvantage can be counted by the fact you've got
that swinging lefty serve, which not every There's only like
what five to ten percent of players that are lefty,
so returners don't see that serve all the time. So
maybe that is an inbuilt advantage that counters the No.
Speaker 7 (18:40):
He has a great lefty slice out wide, and then
he just starts pounding their backhands. Yeah right, and then
he kind of forces them to go down the line
and he's so quick that he just hat the crass
court backhand and now they're heading a run in chart.
So it's like, I think it is a little bit
of an advantage, Like the speed's not there, but the
slaves I think, like you're saying, can factor in.
Speaker 4 (18:59):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (19:00):
From one.
Speaker 2 (19:02):
Young upper and up and coming, I want to talk
about what caught my eye, which is really the rise
or the continued rise of Eva Liss. She has reached
the quarter final of Beijing, defeating Rebeccna, who is obviously
a top ten player also and has a messed look
this is what I'm looking at as well. She has
(19:23):
a mass more than one hundred and eighty thousand Instagram followers,
and she's rising up to thirty six thousand on TikTok,
which people might think that's not too much, but Eva Liss,
you know, twelve months ago to the general populace, people
may not have known her. We're going to throw to
a little TikTok of her, and then we obviously will
talk a lot about her playing and her tennis.
Speaker 1 (19:43):
But I thought, let's get into some TikTok.
Speaker 9 (19:47):
Excuse me.
Speaker 4 (19:48):
I love your alphad play. I love you Alpha.
Speaker 11 (19:51):
What do you call leven?
Speaker 5 (19:53):
I'm actually here for the congrats.
Speaker 4 (19:56):
What's to name? Okay?
Speaker 9 (19:59):
What do you call your dreams?
Speaker 11 (20:01):
Hello?
Speaker 5 (20:01):
I love the traveling, I love the challenges on Forward.
I mean I'm.
Speaker 1 (20:05):
Always buying myself on Forward. So if I'm winning, I'm winning.
Speaker 5 (20:08):
If I'm living, it's also.
Speaker 6 (20:09):
My follow You do have an amazing outfit.
Speaker 4 (20:11):
I do have to say, I prepare.
Speaker 2 (20:13):
So that's on a Can't underscore Journey Instagram account. He
is quite well known for doing these kind of pop
up and feels like he's surprising people, but I'm pretty
sure it might be created. But I don't want to
be judgmental there, but I suppose I wanted to show
that because she is becoming a name we're thinking about
a little bit more on the women's side, but also
she's bringing out this amazing personality as well, and she's
(20:36):
really working social media that we've seen maybe some of
the I don't want to say older, but the more
mature women aren't necessarily have been using the platforms like this.
But she plays Coco Goff today in the quarterfinals. So
listeners out there, you might hear the results before we do,
and you hear it. Who's going to win them? Fitzi, Matt,
(20:59):
between Coco and Evil.
Speaker 4 (21:00):
You have to back Coco.
Speaker 5 (21:01):
We would have to back Coco. Yeah, she's the defending
champion in Beijing, the world number three. There's been a
lot of discussion on Coco Gov's you know, form struggles,
and she's that will get to this in the episode.
You know, she's tinkering with technique and there things that
are on for Coco that make it make it tougher.
Lisa's also shown this year when she did breakthrough at
the AO she takes advantage of incredible opportunities. Her her
(21:24):
story was so good in January because she was a
lucky loser that got the call up at the very
last minute, so go on court for the first round.
So I think, you know, there was only five or
ten minutes notice and she was playing, and she kind
of translated this into this really inspirational fourth round run
and how appreciative she was, and she talked about how
transferred transformative the money was that she got because of
how she can invest that back into her career. And
(21:46):
I think people.
Speaker 1 (21:47):
Didn't even realize how much she was winning, did she.
Speaker 5 (21:49):
Yeah, And someone presented that to her in an interview,
She's like, oh my god, like yea in her mind.
And I think her kind of natural openness and sharing
her story with fans and then being really present on
social media has made her a bit of a fan favorite.
She's not just your average, you know, rank and file
tool member because there are so many players. Yeah, but
she's continued it on and how that runs. This is
her best result at a WTA thousand and yeah, And
(22:12):
it's just that I think these things kind of create
their momentum. More fans discover her when she does well,
you know, people will respond to that on social media,
her profile grows, and it all just kind of goes
hand in hand. She's becoming one of the stars of
the game.
Speaker 2 (22:24):
Well yeah, and it's so shown through her sponsorships as
well through she's now working with Porsche La Ross posse Assex.
So something's working for her. But let's flip that on
who she's about to play. In terms of Coco Golf, Levi,
you've been looking at some data behind that in terms
of what caught your eye.
Speaker 7 (22:44):
Right, Yeah, we want to look at what has changed
for Coco since last year. And actually the story kind
of revolves around maybe a similar struggle that she's had
with her serve. So she currently leads the tour in
terms of double faults about three hundred and forty sive,
which is a lot, and you can even see that
by the next person is about ninety five double faults
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behind her. So she just kind of has a lot
of double faults. And so obviously she's having some issues
with their second serve. She's not being able to have
that comfort with it, and that leads to her not
being able to really hold her serve that well and
that's why we see these kind of really dramatic matches
because she's having to claw her way back and break
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them and then find her serve. And so she's going
into these you know, third set matches all the time,
which you might not expect her to do given how
well she plays. So, I mean, she's done a really
good job there as she's twelve and two in terms
of her third set record this year. So she has
this really incredible mentality. But there's a weakness there on
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the second serve, but she's taking action on it. So
she actually hired biomechanic expert. So Gavin McMillan, did.
Speaker 1 (23:59):
She do that before the US Open? Didn't she right before?
Speaker 6 (24:02):
Yeah?
Speaker 5 (24:03):
So, which was considered a very surprising move. Just start
tinkering with your strokes five days out from a mate.
Speaker 7 (24:08):
Yeah, I think it probably just you know, I don't
know if anybody hasn't had the serving yeps, but I had,
and it's like, you know, I can't such an uncomfortable
feeling to not be able to like feel your serve
and know if it's going to go in.
Speaker 6 (24:22):
It's it's really difficult.
Speaker 3 (24:23):
Oh I had those feelings. Yeah, it's a long time ago.
But what annoys me is I can still remember them vividly,
you know, from it was it was terrible, a terrible
feeling if you thought you had a bit of the
yips on and you lost your confidence. So that will
be really draining for her. So she needs to improve
that technique, I think, get the serve right for her
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to fulfill her destiny, so to speak. I think, but
she's such a she's so good in so many other
areas that she'll have most of the players you'd think
on the WTA two covered even without that, But to
win the majors, she's probably going to need to get
this run.
Speaker 7 (25:00):
Yeah, So some things that McMillan I think would be
looking at. We kind of analyze the data that we
have and we said, okay, Biomechanically, they track the limbs
of the different players, so you can see, okay, what
looks different. So I try to find a player that
serves well and is kind of has a similar height
as Coco. So Ega Coco both five nine are about
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one hundred and seventy five centimeters, so you can kind
of compare apples to apples there.
Speaker 6 (25:26):
And what you see Ega do is she.
Speaker 7 (25:29):
Actually has about twenty four percent more leg drive as
we call it, or basically the speed coming in on
her second serve from her legs, how fast is she
pushing up? And about twenty three percent more wrist speed
on her second serve, So I think Coco's not really
accelerating into her shots.
Speaker 10 (25:46):
Now.
Speaker 6 (25:46):
How McMillan goes about fixing that.
Speaker 7 (25:49):
He's the expert there, but he actually worked with Sabalanka,
so he's kind of a serve doctor. So I hopefully
we'll see some real changes there because I think once
she locks in that serve, I mean it's going to
be it's going to be crazy.
Speaker 6 (26:03):
So I mean, if if you.
Speaker 7 (26:04):
Look at how it's changed so far, she has done
a bit better with the five matches post having the
new coach, but with the kind of most recent performance.
You look at the Leyla match, she had nine double faults.
Speaker 6 (26:20):
And really struggled with their serves.
Speaker 7 (26:22):
So I think it's still there, work in progress, but
it's something it's something to look.
Speaker 6 (26:27):
For in terms of improvement. See if that changes as
you go into the finals.
Speaker 1 (26:30):
And look at what we saw. The turnaround on Sablanca.
Speaker 5 (26:33):
Oh remember the turnaround on Sabolenka is one of I
think one of the most underrated stories in sport because
she had service hips that were even worse than Goths
in twenty twenty two and was like weeping on court,
like it was really falling apart. And twelve months later,
I still can't. I'll never forget watching her serve out
the Australian Open title twelve months later and thinking like,
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you've come so far and you're now serving for your
first major title and it's the shot that you required
that twelve months ago was causing you so much grief,
but it was so much safer and she managed to
do that. And look what she's gone on to do.
She's one four majors and that's never really been a
problem for saball Aancor. Again it's I think she's mostly
put that to bed because her technique is more sure.
Also what you said with the data as well, Coco
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not getting the leg drive up. It tallies with where
the double flats are going, most of them going to
the net, and so she's not getting I guess that
I'm not the biomechanist, but not getting the extension that
she needs and she Fionte's done such a great job
of improving her serve in the last few or two,
so it is an interesting comparison.
Speaker 1 (27:33):
So quarterfinal action is starting this afternoon.
Speaker 2 (27:35):
Let's see how Coco Surf goes and let's see how
Lis presents herself on court. We've got more of the
tennis coming up after the break, including a preview of
the Shanghai Masters from Reese to Duke who is calling
in again, and of course my Asian Tennis quiz for
this week.
Speaker 1 (27:52):
So stay with us.
Speaker 2 (27:57):
Time to find out what else is making news in
China back by popular demand, as was FITZI, We've got.
Speaker 1 (28:03):
Rece with a beautiful backdrop there.
Speaker 2 (28:05):
Tell us where you are, what you're doing, clearly not
working hard enough from the looks of things, not.
Speaker 11 (28:12):
Working hard enough at all. But I will head into
the site shortly just from my accommodation at the moment
here in Shanghai for the Shanghai Rolex Masters, which is
a very exciting event and yeah, looking forward to it
as the seas will get underway in the coming days
and we've had first round action kickoff yesterday.
Speaker 5 (28:28):
How's it all feeling over there?
Speaker 11 (28:29):
Reece?
Speaker 5 (28:30):
You were telling us off air that it is China's
I think national holiday week over there, and there's a
pretty good energy at the tournament in Shanghai.
Speaker 11 (28:37):
It's been crazy. Matt I went out last night to
the pun just to walk around and there is just
thousands of people everywhere. It was their main Golden week
National Day holiday yesterday and then they'll have the whole
week traveling around with their national holiday week, and it
has just been Yeah, it was hectic. It was pretty
hard to get anywhere, but a great atmosphere, great vibe,
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and so those the Shanghai Masters look forward to this
tournament for a long time. There's activations everywhere in the city.
You can watch tennants on the big screens. And yeah,
some big names that they love involved as well.
Speaker 2 (29:09):
And so in terms of some of those big names
you're just talking about, I know, Djokovic is very loved
in China and he wasn't yet sure whether he's going
to play Shanghai. So what's the energy around that knowing
he is there.
Speaker 11 (29:22):
Yeah, they absolutely love him here. He is like adored
by the Chinese people.
Speaker 5 (29:27):
Yeah, and he was.
Speaker 11 (29:28):
Yeah, he was like like you said, no one really
knows what events Novak's going to play, and he was
a really laugh minute inclusion I loved how they announced
it two on social media. They had their poster with
all the players and they're like, oh, sorry, we forgot someone,
and then they put Novak smack bang in the middle,
nice and big.
Speaker 1 (29:45):
Else.
Speaker 11 (29:47):
Yeah, but he is the star attraction. He came into
the site the last couple of days and he speaks Chinese.
Speaker 5 (29:54):
To all the locals and they just absolutely love him.
Speaker 11 (29:57):
And he obviously made the final here last year where
he's it was against Sinner on the same half of
the draw as Cinner this time round, but those two
will certainly be favorites to square off in the semi
final again.
Speaker 3 (30:10):
What about the venue up there in Shanghai, I mean
it's you know, I was up there a long time ago,
over a decade ago, and it was pretty staggering then.
But obviously it's needed some upgrades. I guess what have
they done in recent times up there.
Speaker 11 (30:21):
Yeah, Like you say, it's absolutely staggering just how big
the site is, Like it's Grand Slam levels. I don't
know what the actual dimensions are, but it feels bigger
than like what Wimbledon is. They have massive stadium courts
with retractable roofs, and their stadium two court. Just in
the last twelve months they've added a roof to that
one as well, so handy because they've had a lot
of rain here in the pollis and everything, so they've
(30:44):
needed the roof stadiums to get through. But yeah, just
things happen so quickly here with builds in China that
they just opt up a roof twelve months on and
they've got this massive stadium with a roof on it.
Speaker 1 (30:56):
Now that would be a scheduling dream.
Speaker 5 (30:58):
If there's more courts with absolutely, I'm sure.
Speaker 1 (31:02):
And we've got a lot of Ossie's over there, yeah.
Speaker 11 (31:05):
Yeah, we do. It's not as it's not as record
breaking as I mentioned last week with the women at
the thousand event in Beijing where he had the one
qualifier with Tristan school Kate who lost yesterday to Daniel Altmeyer.
Adam Walton also lost yesterday, but Jordan Thompson got up
in three sets to August Hunger and he's looking in
a little bit of trouble early that he got through,
(31:26):
so he's the first qualifier. He's the first player in
the main draw to join Demon in the second round.
Chris O'Connell will play today and obviously Demon coming up
some great form with a great run in Beijing and
a career best performance against Gannick Sinner. He's on the
Alcaz half of the draw and with Alcoraz pulling out
now it's a great opportunity for Demon, so watch out.
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He's playing, he's got He's had a busy schedule, but
he's in some great form as well on these ardcords.
Speaker 2 (31:53):
And how's Jordan Thompson's back injury? Looking from your point
of view.
Speaker 11 (31:57):
Yeah, well it held up okay. Yesterday he was he
was ticking along. I don't think he's still one. But
as we know Tom, he's as tough as anything and
he fights through. He knows his body better than anyone else,
so we'll trust him that he's making the right decisions.
Speaker 4 (32:12):
Pree, Have you been worried about Tom Berny chance or
I'm always worried about him. Obviously a bit of a fan,
do you know?
Speaker 2 (32:20):
Luke Saville told him that I'm a fan and so
now I'm just horrendously embarrassed.
Speaker 6 (32:25):
So I don't think.
Speaker 4 (32:29):
Should the only person in Melbourne that doesn't know.
Speaker 1 (32:36):
Oh, it's so awkward.
Speaker 2 (32:39):
Before we say goodbye to you, Ree, any other top
tips or things that are happening over there that we
should know about in our listeners.
Speaker 11 (32:46):
Yeah, well, just get yourself out to explore if you're
around in Shanghai coming to the Shanghai Masters. There's a
lot of expats living in Shanghai that have been out
to the tennis and they've had a great event. It
is a long way out from the city, so be
prepared for a decent travel journey. But even if you
are in the city, there's plenty of pop ups, activations,
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plasers to watch on big screens, and it's just the
general vibe of their national National holiday week has just
been great in Shanghai. So it's an event that I'd
recommend putting on the bucket list for any tennis fan
as well.
Speaker 4 (33:18):
Hey, how good are the Bullet Trains Force?
Speaker 11 (33:20):
Yeah? I got to Shanghai in about four hours from
Beijing time to watch the second half of the AFL
Grand Final and watch the lines get up, And there
was an Aussie brewery in Shanghai that I watched it
with Australia. It's a great day. I missed the Grand Vinyl. Yeah,
(33:40):
well that was a travel day.
Speaker 2 (33:42):
I'm I'm joking you work hard all the time, you
may have your fun I'm joking. Yeah, Well, we will
say goodbye to you and wish you luck in your
last day working on the ground there in Shanghai, and
we'll see you back here probably in the studio I
think in the coming weeks as well next week.
Speaker 11 (33:58):
Thanks Bree, Thanks everyone, he's so nice.
Speaker 5 (34:01):
See Reese, I'm really well.
Speaker 2 (34:02):
We all are in our team ready for him to
come home because there's plenty of work to get done here, mate,
to get on back. But what else has been happening
in tennis world, Matt.
Speaker 5 (34:12):
Well, yeah, there's the news that Gail Montfees has announced
he will play his final season on tour next year,
and he'll be turning forty next September, so it will
bring to a close an incredibly long, a twenty two
year professional career that began in two thousand and four.
Monfies is like a legend of the sport, such a
(34:32):
fan favorite. Plays tennis in a way that I think
is kind of like unseen before. The athleticism, his shot
making ability, the way he engages with crowds, he's dancing
like Yeah, there's so many elements of his personality in
his game that make him so watchable, and even this
year at the AO he upset Taylor Fritz and he
made it through to the fourth round of the AO
(34:53):
at age thirty eight. He in the last couple of
years has won some incredible five set matches at Roland
Garross in front of the fans in Paris. These are
just these incredible things that I guess he's playing for,
these those feelings, those highs. He might not be at
the absolute peak of his career. I think he got
to number six in the world a little while ago
and has made a couple of Grand Slam semi finals,
(35:13):
so he's not maybe quite at that level. But when
he's healthy and fit and motivated, which he is at
the moment for the most part, he can still play
and beat the world's best players. So it's going to
be a real loss from the sport when he goes.
But it's great. I guess that we know, we've got
to know, like, go and see him one last time
if you can, wherever you are in the world, because yeah,
(35:34):
it's it's the end of a very special career.
Speaker 7 (35:36):
Yeah, I think if anyone's in Paris when he's playing,
you have to be you have to go there, and
I think you'll be a safe to see when they
send them off, because the French are very good at
celebrating their players. I was lucky enough to see songas
last match and just the you know, everything that they
do for the player on core they bring out all
(35:57):
the French nationals and so I think that would be
a very cool thing to see.
Speaker 6 (36:01):
Shout out to anyone there.
Speaker 4 (36:02):
Yeah, yeah, well I agree.
Speaker 3 (36:05):
He's been such an entertainer, very unique individual on a
tennis court, and what an athlete he's been. You just
can't recover, you know, the older you get, you can
still play one really great match here at the Strain
Open was was probably a testament to that. He got
through a couple of matches, three matches in fact, but
just ran out of gas because you just cannot recover
(36:27):
the same as you get older.
Speaker 4 (36:29):
I don't know.
Speaker 3 (36:29):
It looks like he's going on a retirement tour. He's
announced it early, hasn't he.
Speaker 2 (36:34):
Do you think that was the strategy for I think
I can't speak for parties.
Speaker 5 (36:38):
With a whole lot of little parties in between gifts.
Speaker 3 (36:41):
There could be a celebrations every week he plays, but
he deserves a good sendoff.
Speaker 4 (36:47):
He's been.
Speaker 3 (36:49):
He's been a wonderful addition, I think to our sport
over two decades now.
Speaker 1 (36:52):
Yeah, it's going to be What do you think his
legacy will be?
Speaker 3 (36:56):
Well, I think that he's I think that he's been
the entertainer, the character. The eight years difference between when
he made a semi final at the French Open and
then a semi final at the US Open, it's pretty
an interesting stat in itself. Longevity speaks speaks a lot
for a player, but I think I think it's hard
(37:16):
to not remember him almost first and foremost as the entertainer. Yeah,
it's hard not to imagine him as that.
Speaker 7 (37:23):
Yeah, I mean you see the shots that Alcaraz has
hitding now and it's like Gairl was hitting those shots,
yeah twenty years ago or whatever. But yeah, so I
think he is the entertainer for sure.
Speaker 2 (37:34):
And then on the flip side, we have some other
news in fact that been Mugarutha has announced her pregnancy, Yeah.
Speaker 5 (37:40):
Which is exciting. That is exciting. I mean her her
career probably ended a little sooner than your average career
does these, so something she retired by twenty nine or
thirty and back in the day that wasn't unusual, but
now we see how long careers extend. Yeah, you know,
she wound up her career a little bit, a little
bit sooner, but she's we vive and I were actually
(38:01):
very lucky to have her on the sit down a
couple of months ago, and she talked about has really
enjoyed kind of transitioning into retired life. She's she being
a pro tennis player and being so successful for such
a young age, from such a young age, meant that
she missed all those normal things. She talked about how
much she liked being at home, cooking and garden and
doing those kinds of regular like domestic, everyday life things
(38:22):
and going at a bit of a slower pace. She's
still connected with tennis. She is the WTF Finals tournament
director and does commentary stuff there. But yeah, she got married,
and yeah, I guess this is the next step in
her post tennis, you know, slower life, post career. Yeah,
that she'll become a mum, which is which is really lovely.
Speaker 2 (38:41):
It is so congrats Ti Mucgarutha. We are thinking of
you and good luck. But we're going to dip into
my favorite part of the shows when we do it
the quiz.
Speaker 5 (38:51):
We've got a quiz.
Speaker 2 (38:53):
We tried to do this quiz last week and we
realized it was factually incorrect, so we're doing it again
this week. We cut it out last week, So is
everyone ready? We're gonna run it off. I'll do the
numbers one, two, three, for five and just say your
name as your buzzer and we'll see who wins. Ready, Okay, one,
(39:17):
where's my number?
Speaker 4 (39:18):
One?
Speaker 6 (39:18):
There we go?
Speaker 5 (39:18):
Won one?
Speaker 2 (39:20):
So which atp Asian host city is known for its
futuristic skyline and the Pearl Tower such Shanghai. Yes, it
was so easy this this.
Speaker 6 (39:32):
Question because it's from week.
Speaker 1 (39:36):
To Okay, number two, we've got multiple choice.
Speaker 2 (39:38):
This is also ranked as easy, so hopefully you guys
can get it. Who is the only player to have
won the Shanghai Masters more than once?
Speaker 4 (39:48):
Pity go Roger?
Speaker 5 (39:54):
No, Matt, Yeah? Is it Jokovic?
Speaker 1 (39:58):
Yes?
Speaker 4 (39:58):
Say I can't.
Speaker 5 (40:00):
Believe I use my buzzer correctly.
Speaker 2 (40:04):
If this was last week, we could have said maybe
you were right, because we weren't sure because nothing was
factually checked.
Speaker 4 (40:10):
But now we have sure you didn't get this one
wrong as well.
Speaker 5 (40:15):
So it's two to you, Matt scoring okay, well one
one legitimate one and one cheating one? But did you cheat?
Well no, apparently I just didn't follow the order. I
didn't do my buzz. I'll gue it to you.
Speaker 1 (40:27):
K three, this is a medium?
Speaker 2 (40:30):
What surface and color is used for the China Open
in Beijing?
Speaker 6 (40:36):
Hardcore and blue?
Speaker 5 (40:38):
Not done?
Speaker 4 (40:40):
Is it just points for that?
Speaker 10 (40:43):
Sure?
Speaker 4 (40:44):
All right? All right?
Speaker 2 (40:48):
We love you, so you we won't make fun of
you that you're on last four, which isn't Asian City
is also famous for its Sakura festival.
Speaker 5 (41:00):
Pitty, well done, you're on the board.
Speaker 2 (41:04):
We've got three one, two one maybe Matt three your two?
Speaker 6 (41:10):
LEVI do you know what means?
Speaker 5 (41:13):
What does it mean?
Speaker 6 (41:14):
I think it means like flower or like cherry blast.
Speaker 4 (41:16):
I thought it was an alcoholic drink cherry.
Speaker 5 (41:21):
To go there?
Speaker 1 (41:23):
Okay?
Speaker 2 (41:24):
Next one, which Southeast Asian country and former at P
and W T A host nation, is known for its
national disc dish dish called Nassi Lamac.
Speaker 5 (41:34):
Matt, Yes, was it country or city? Country? Malaysia?
Speaker 1 (41:38):
Yes, Matt, I would have gone for like Indonesian.
Speaker 4 (41:43):
Yeah, I couldn't remember.
Speaker 2 (41:46):
Probably have quite a lot of dishes that they have
in both countries as well the overlap.
Speaker 1 (41:51):
So Matt, that makes you the winner.
Speaker 5 (41:53):
Congratulations one of quiz on here.
Speaker 2 (41:56):
Do you know why I asked the questions because I've
not got the the.
Speaker 5 (42:02):
Advantage of being the host.
Speaker 1 (42:03):
Thanks for humoring me with another quiz all of you.
Speaker 2 (42:07):
But we're going to get into ace of the week,
which is everyone's favorite time of the week. Do we
have anyone who would like to bid ongoing first?
Speaker 7 (42:15):
I can go first, Yeah, fantic So I rented a
car and went out to Warburton, Congratulations, which was kind
of a fun thing driving on the left side. It's
northeast of Melbourne, kind of out there in the mountains
or hills, but really.
Speaker 6 (42:34):
Pretty out there. Yeah.
Speaker 7 (42:36):
The Jara goes all the way up there, and so yeah,
this is a really nice area and there's like a
little rainforest canopy thing you can go on the lake.
So definitely would recommend anyone visiting Melbourne to go out
and check out Arbiton.
Speaker 5 (42:50):
Fantastic.
Speaker 2 (42:51):
And I've just realized this serve clock is up. So
you did that really well with ten seconds. So FITZI,
you haven't been here for a couple of weeks. We
now have a serve clock which gives us.
Speaker 3 (43:01):
This is to get on and off quickly, totally over
to you. It's a very polite way to tell me
to be short. This morning, I was delighted. I went
over to the Australian Tennis Championships the opening. In fact,
I had the pleasure of opening the Australian Tennis Championships
for players with intellectual impairment. There were sixty players there.
That brought a warm and fuzzy feeling. It was a
(43:22):
freezing morning, but they're over there as we speak, playing competing.
We've got some of the best players in the world. Yeah,
they've had great success on the world stage and they
probably will again this year.
Speaker 4 (43:35):
So that made my day.
Speaker 5 (43:36):
Yeah, some on my.
Speaker 2 (43:37):
Team were there too, and they said it was just amazing,
so good. Oh my god, exactly on thirty seconds you have.
Speaker 5 (43:45):
No time violation. Perfect, Thank you, Matt. I guess mine
is a little tennis related, but I during COVID I
really got into reading like tennis books so not yeah,
so like not you know, famous tennis novels, and one
I picked up while I at the US Open this
year was Levels of the Game. So it goes into
this detail of the match between Arthur Ash and Clark
(44:05):
Grabner at the US Open. It was written in like
nineteen sixty nine, and it's meant to be like one
of the best ever tennis books. So I've just started
it and it is. It's wonderful levels of the game. Okay,
So yeah, that's I'm really enjoying getting back into my
tennis reading. I love that. I love how much you
are so in love with tennis. I'm building a little
I've got a little shelf. That's my tennis book shelf.
Speaker 4 (44:27):
Do you know much about Arthur Esh's career?
Speaker 5 (44:29):
No, I'm learning masses.
Speaker 4 (44:31):
Here we hear by the time you finish.
Speaker 5 (44:33):
Yeah, Oh, it's wonderful. So yeah, it's really really, really interesting.
Speaker 4 (44:36):
Right.
Speaker 1 (44:36):
Yeah, we'll have to get you to review it when
you're done.
Speaker 5 (44:38):
All right, and over to me.
Speaker 2 (44:40):
I suppose for Ace of the Week, I've kind of
got two because one is, oh.
Speaker 5 (44:44):
God, the clock.
Speaker 1 (44:45):
I always forget about the clock.
Speaker 2 (44:48):
Firstly, Taylor Swift her next album lands tomorrow at two pm.
I know you're all excited. So that's my first one.
I cannot wait. The second one is my girlfriends and
I are diving to Geelong on Friday night just to
have a girl's weekend because they all know that I'm
about to be consumed by the Strain Open. So we're
just going away for a little time together to have
(45:08):
a little break before the Astrain open.
Speaker 1 (45:10):
That's three seconds to go. I had to get Taylor
in there as well.
Speaker 4 (45:15):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (45:16):
So yeah, heading to Geelong, which would be lovely. It's
not stand there.
Speaker 6 (45:19):
I actually really ranged along.
Speaker 4 (45:21):
Yeah, I was there yesterday.
Speaker 1 (45:23):
How was it the.
Speaker 4 (45:26):
Ocean front there? You know, the water beautiful?
Speaker 5 (45:28):
Yeah, beautiful.
Speaker 2 (45:30):
I'm from Newcastle and when I go there, it kind
of reminds me of being back home because there's more
ocean close by, which I really miss here in Melbourne.
But that really does wrap us up for the week.
I want to thank you Fitzi for coming in and
also for your amazing work today with the ATC.
Speaker 4 (45:45):
Thank you for having me.
Speaker 2 (45:46):
We loved it, We love seeing you. And also LEVI
always a pleasure to have you. Obviously, your brain, your data,
your insights, and your American accent so we look to
generate sexual harassment training will come and get me, but yes,
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Hello, and welcome to the Jenners Race to the finish.
Speaker 2 (00:06):
Ken Acroz hold on for year end world number one,
Can Coco kick the yips? Golf attempting to rekindle the
flame in Beijing and shaping up for Shanghai? Will Djokovic
meet Sinner in a semi final?
Speaker 1 (00:19):
That's all ahead with me. I am Briece Stewart.
Speaker 2 (00:22):
Zave is not here today because he is on holidays again,
so I have a very capable co host with me today.
It is Mattrolope from our sister podcast, The sit Down.
Thanks for trusting me, Brick, good to have you. I
love it when we do this together. Then we have
the man who spins numbers into golden stories.
Speaker 1 (00:42):
It's Levi Huddleston.
Speaker 2 (00:43):
Hey you guys, and back by popular demand, Aussie tennis
legend turned commentator.
Speaker 1 (00:53):
We've got Fitzi, John Fitzgerald.
Speaker 3 (00:56):
Thank you, bre I think you're stretching the truth there,
popular demand real? Yes, absolutely, Gee, I'm missing something.
Speaker 2 (01:01):
I'll send you the YouTube comments. I've been asking for you.
But it's great to see you.
Speaker 3 (01:05):
What have you been on to, I mean, just welcoming
more grand children into the world. Yeah, it's been a
busy time for my family. So we're yeah, we're all
pretty excited. Three grandsons in till a forty years.
Speaker 1 (01:19):
Wow, that's good male Jean producing.
Speaker 4 (01:23):
I didn't know there was that's ferility in my family.
We're pretty happy. It's been a joy.
Speaker 5 (01:30):
I bet you're a great grandfather.
Speaker 4 (01:32):
Depends who you ask.
Speaker 2 (01:34):
Okay, good listen, we'll find it. Suit and Leve. You're
famous for data storytelling apparently a good story.
Speaker 6 (01:43):
Not a lot of faith than that.
Speaker 7 (01:46):
I think probably most of it comes in like do
you have the data or not? And then yeah, there's
maybe the interest in the subject matter.
Speaker 2 (01:53):
You have to have that ye passion for it, I think,
and obviously you do, or you just have for fun.
Speaker 6 (02:00):
I think I really do enjoy tennis.
Speaker 5 (02:01):
Yeah, you're a very passionate tennis and player.
Speaker 6 (02:04):
I do like to play. I think that's where it
stems from.
Speaker 8 (02:07):
Great.
Speaker 5 (02:08):
Well, lucky you work here. We've got in our.
Speaker 6 (02:12):
Backyard to get to get after five pm.
Speaker 7 (02:15):
Though, you got to really yeah true, be close on
that book button.
Speaker 5 (02:18):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (02:19):
I actually saw you walking to play the other day.
I was like, oh, there he goes off into the distance.
Speaker 5 (02:24):
With his racket.
Speaker 2 (02:25):
Anyway, let's get into what's caught your eye, and we're
going to start with you fit sick because I believe
you're talking a little bit about acraz Is historic season.
Speaker 4 (02:32):
Well, what a player he's turning out to be.
Speaker 3 (02:35):
You know, it's hard to believe we've got two very
similar potential players in center and our croz after we
had so long with the top three. And he continues
to improve. You know, a big believer in sport and
other things that if you don't improve, you go backwards.
(02:56):
If you stay the same, you go backwards. So he
is continuing to improve. His game's getting better. I mean
that US Open, So he played some extraordinary stuff at
the US Open. And he's having the biggest year obviously
in his young career. He's got a lot of years
to go yet before you can really you can compare
him with the other three for a smaller window, because
(03:19):
he's as good as they were at the beginning of
his career. But he's got a long way to go.
Longevity will play the biggest role in this. But how
good is he? And he's won eight tournaments now in
one calendar year, first time he's done it. Some of
them have been Masters Series. I mean Monte Carlo Rome.
He's obviously won Roland Garrison. He won the US Open
(03:41):
as well, so a year that he will never forget.
And I don't know that gives you leverage to change
your hairstyle.
Speaker 4 (03:47):
I'misure I had that leverage.
Speaker 6 (03:50):
Did you go see the hatchhog? That's someone different ch.
Speaker 7 (03:54):
It looks just like his hair as like had his
spiky silver hair.
Speaker 2 (03:58):
Yes, And he just started cracking up very good. And
he is such a good character in tennis, isn't he. Yeah,
because he's twenty three at the moment, is that right?
Twenty two, So he's potentially got seventeen years left to
go to reach where Novak's at. Well, when you think
about it, like that Novak who's still playing at thirty.
Speaker 5 (04:16):
Nine, Yes, I think that actually blows my mind. It
is mind blowing to watch them when they played in
the US Open semi final. And I know they played
a lot of grand slame matches, but you have to
remind yourself sometimes, Oh, you've got this twenty two year
old playing someone who's sixteen, almost seventeen years older than him.
The intergenerational clash between them. It's amazing actually that Jokovic
(04:36):
is still around two face Alkoraz and Cinner, but it
is I think you just go, oh, they're two top
players playing each other, but Novak's not far away from
being double his age. That's incredible. Like I always think
that's a really cool plot line whenever they do play.
But what you said Fitzy two as well, he is
so talented and he's improving, And I think one of
the things he's improved the most is his consistency and
(04:58):
how he doesn't have dips anymore. Because when he first
came onto the scene, he had all that talent, he
could play all the shots, his upper level was great,
but then you know, there was the inconsistency within matches
or from tournament to tournament. And now he's like, he's
only lost twice since eight Pril, Like he's so locked in.
He barely dropped a set at the US Open. It
was his most efficient way of getting through. And I
(05:18):
think that's what's taken him to the next level.
Speaker 3 (05:20):
Yeah, I think two years ago I had not doubts,
but I thought he's so he loves using flare so much.
He tries all sorts of amazing sort of shot selections,
and I thought, gee, that'll cost him matches as time
goes on, because how can you put all those how
can you try all that those different types of approaches
(05:42):
to the sport and not make more mistakes than someone
who's a bit like center, who's more solid, if I
may say that, meaning he hits the ball the same
way repetitively, but he does it so well. So that's
where his strength is. But the flare that this kid
has our careers is extraordinary, and I thought it would
hold him back a little bit in big matches because
(06:04):
he'd make too many mistakes, Matt. But now, just as
you said, he's he's cut out a lot of those errors.
He's still be able to use his flare and all
of the variety that he's got, but he's not making mistakes.
Speaker 4 (06:17):
It's working all the time.
Speaker 7 (06:19):
Well yeah, I mean on that you can just look
at the numbers and he's making more winners and last
unforced errors if you compare a year and year.
Speaker 6 (06:26):
So he's like, it's not just what you think. It's like,
it's actually there in the datas.
Speaker 5 (06:30):
I'm glad to have back up on that, because it's
like a perception. You watch and you go, you feel it,
but when the numbers reflected and his increased serving as well.
That has just made him clicking through service games. It
sets and it gives him easy like you know, weaker
returns and he can finish points faster, and it all
builds from the serve.
Speaker 3 (06:46):
Yeah, all of that gives me joy as a tennis
admirer and someone who cares about the sport. But what
I really like at the end of the day is
how much he and Sinner both respect the sport.
Speaker 4 (06:57):
Gee.
Speaker 3 (06:57):
I love that, and so therefore they're going to be
good for the sport for a long period of time.
Speaker 4 (07:02):
But there's a lot of miles to go yet.
Speaker 3 (07:04):
Yeah, to catch up, to catch up with Djokovic to
still be playing at that age age is extraordinary in itself,
so there's no guarantee that these two younger players will.
Speaker 5 (07:14):
Still make it age.
Speaker 2 (07:15):
That's the thing that I keep thinking about and I
kind of want to talk about. And I think this
starts to get into what caught your eye to Matt. Obviously,
OCAs is pulled out of Shanghai because of some potential
injury with his ankle, and then I think that this
kind of takeways into what caught your eye with where
we at with yes, the runners.
Speaker 1 (07:34):
The limit the race race, not the runners the race,
but they.
Speaker 5 (07:38):
Are runners in the race to year and number one,
so they are they have elevated themselves Inner and Alcoraz
so far above the rest of the field. They've split
the four majors this year as they did last year,
and so now it's looking like who will finish the
year number one? Last year it was Sinner. Oh, we've
got it up on the screen. Got up on the screen,
so it looks our listeners at home, that will explain it.
So Alcarez is now number one. He took over the
(07:59):
number one from Sinner after winning the US Open. Interestingly,
I think it was two years since Alcarez had been
number one. But so yes, very close in the points
race there. But what the points race reflects is actually
the last fifty two weeks of tennis. So Sinner remains
very close to Alcarez because of what he did at
the back end of twenty twenty four I think won
the ATP finals, he won Shanghai, which is underway this week.
(08:22):
If we flip to the race, so we see that
Alcorz is a lot further in front. The race is
calculated on points earned from the beginning of the season,
so twenty twenty five alone, So this is where we
see what you were talking about. Fitzi alcarazz eight titles,
ten finals has been the dominant player and is two
and a half thousand points clear of Sinner, But with
Alcarez pulling out of Shanghai this week, Sinner has an
(08:46):
opportunity to close that gap. If he wins Shanghai, he
wins a thousand points and so that gap will close
to fifteen hundred points and then yeah, a few more
tournaments to play for that battle for year A number
one and Paris Masters ATP five finals a few more
five hundred, so a lot has to go right for Sinner.
But this gives us a bit of a look of
where they are currently standing. Alchorizing pole position to finish
(09:08):
the year number one, but he hasn't got it locked in.
Speaker 3 (09:11):
No, But this race to t'rein list is more significant
in terms of who will finish. Yes, the number at
number one at the end of the year, so he's
got a big gap. He's got two and a half
thousand points there. Yannik is defending, so he's fifty two
week rotating ranking is a lot closer, yes to Carlos,
(09:32):
but he's got to defend a win in Shanghai and
a win at at the Year End Championships to stay
the same on that other list. So yeah, and if
you can imagine Carlos, if he does well at the
Year End Championships, he's going to be very hard.
Speaker 4 (09:47):
Very very hard to stop it.
Speaker 5 (09:48):
Yes, and this list actually is Yes, this is the race,
as it says on the tab, the race of you're
in this will determine the eight the eight finalists at
the Year End Championships is an eight player tournament. Sinner
and Alchoriz have already confirmed their places in the field.
Zverev is next in line, and Jokovic they're actually on
very equal points and Lorenzo Muzeti in eighth place now
to get that final spot. So this is what's really
(10:10):
also interesting at this time of years, like who's going
to claim those final spots? They're trying to get into
that tournament so prestigious, open only to the the world's
best players. So yeah, that's a really cool plotline to
watch it as well.
Speaker 1 (10:21):
The difference between number one and two is so drastic
compared toive numbers three, day.
Speaker 5 (10:27):
Yes, yeah, in terms of points, and that reflects how
just how dominant have been they've they've won like a
four thousand. Yeah, they've won the last eight mates between them,
and they've played in the last three Grand Slam finals.
They are they're holding all the biggest titles. So we're
waiting to see that challenger will be.
Speaker 9 (10:47):
Hello everyone, I'm just really disappointed to announced that I
wouldn't be playing on the roles and I Master this year.
As you know, I've been struggling physically during this week
here and just how to withdraw from from the tournament
that is Sanghay. I was really looking forward to playing
(11:08):
from of the Sanghai fans that I love playing in
front of them last year. So I will be back
to to recover and be as good as I can
as soon as possible, but hopefully playing in front of
the Shanghai e fans you know, next next year.
Speaker 4 (11:29):
Looking forward for that.
Speaker 9 (11:30):
So sorry for having to to withdraw.
Speaker 5 (11:35):
How happy do we think?
Speaker 2 (11:36):
Well, obviously since it's not happy that his comrade is injured,
but this obviously is the exciting component for Soner.
Speaker 5 (11:44):
Is that Yeah, it's a crist isn't it. Shanghai it's
an opportunity for him to gain ground, and he won
this tournament last year, so obviously it's a pretty happy
hunting ground for him. Hardcourt's his best surface. But he
won't obviously probably won't want to see a friendly rival
being insured and skipping a tournament because they do love
playing each rubbing his hands get the I mean, it's.
Speaker 7 (12:05):
Kind of like maybe you know, Fat and the doll.
It was like sinner'skryptone is al Chiaz, So it probably is.
Speaker 6 (12:12):
He's a little bit relieved. Maybe good work. He doesn't
have to probably face him.
Speaker 5 (12:17):
And in terms of what Alchariz just said, length of
the season, the amount of tennis's played, FITZI, is this
the right decision to skip Shanghai, Well, if.
Speaker 4 (12:25):
His body's not right, it would be.
Speaker 3 (12:27):
I mean, I'm not across exactly how he's feeling right now,
but if he you know, he heard it in the
first round of Tokyo, got through that tournament. So look,
it's a long season and then you know what they're
going to get to the end of the season. They're
not going to have much of a break before the
start of the next season.
Speaker 6 (12:42):
Here or something.
Speaker 3 (12:43):
They get very little time, so you need to manage.
He's going to have to manage for another twelve or
fourteen years.
Speaker 4 (12:50):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (12:50):
Yeah, And speaking of that camaraderie and house cinner wouldn't
be rubbing his hands together as I had suspected that
our Kaz is not playing. Shanghai Sina did defeat Leerna
Tan in Beijing, So let's throw to a bit of
a video paying tribute to ten and the champion speech.
Speaker 5 (13:11):
I would like to.
Speaker 10 (13:12):
Start with Learner and your whole team. I know you
have a great theme behind you. You are showing throughout.
Speaker 6 (13:19):
The whole season.
Speaker 10 (13:20):
What what tlan you are just keep going. You're you're
playing an incredible tennis So wish you only the best
for the for the rest of the season and obviously
for your for your whole career. And hopefully we can
share some some some other moments like this in the
in the future.
Speaker 5 (13:37):
So learn a Tan.
Speaker 2 (13:39):
He's he kind of broke through I think at the
AO this year.
Speaker 7 (13:42):
Yeah tell me LEVI, Well, he's just such an interesting character.
And I you know, he beat Medvedev at the AO
and I was like, okay, I've got to go watch
him play. So then I went and watched his next
his next match, and he was so fun to watch
because he just always extends these rallies and really long,
and so he have these great rallies to watch. And
(14:03):
I think the fun thing about him is he's really
clever in terms of his tactics, and yeah, he just
has this kryptonite against top players.
Speaker 2 (14:14):
Especially Medvedev. Right he's coming for us, especially especially Medvedev.
It seems to be his weakness. But yeah, he has
a really great record against top ten players. Now it's
five and three.
Speaker 7 (14:25):
It was five and two before he played Yonick center,
so he's actually gotten the most wins off the top
ten than any other player except for Yick and Alcoraz.
Speaker 4 (14:34):
So kind of.
Speaker 7 (14:35):
Interesting and you got to wonder, Okay, well, what what
is ten doing?
Speaker 6 (14:39):
So yeah, we did.
Speaker 7 (14:40):
We took a little bit of a look, and it's
he's just he's playing above his level, like when he
plays the top ten, which is maybe there's a little
bit of freedom in that when you're like, Okay, I'm
playing someone I don't have anything to hold back, but
he is. He's beating his average. And usually would think
if you're playing someone who's in the top ten, some
(15:02):
of your stats are going to drop a little bit
because they're so good. But it's like his stats actually
elevate when he plays them, so it's it's pretty interesting.
He in like rallies that go really long, So over
nine he wins seventy percent of those rallies when facing
top ten players. That's incredible for someone who's like he's
(15:23):
still a teenager, isn't he's nineteen?
Speaker 5 (15:25):
Yeah, yeah, and hadn't played a top ten player. I
don't think until this year. Maybe you would imagine the
experience all the you know, the more runs in the
board physically with those top players would outlast the teenager.
That's that's staggering.
Speaker 6 (15:40):
Yeah, no, it is.
Speaker 7 (15:41):
And he's got Michael Chang now came on as a
coach and was there in Beijing, so he's got a
lot of good support. He's got a great head on
his shoulders. But yeah, he's just he's finding his forehand.
He's hitting it a little bit faster than he was.
A lot of people would describe him maybe as a pusher,
as a grinder, but if you watched the final against Cinner,
(16:02):
he's actually like really going for his shots. He's finding
his serve a little bit more. But Yeah, he's just
a talented player, and he has his mentality where he
converts on breakpoints, so he's like a forty eight percent
breakpoint conversion rate versus the tour averages thirty eight and
that's against the top ten, so he's like, he's just
really good against the top ten.
Speaker 6 (16:24):
But I don't know.
Speaker 7 (16:26):
I think time will tell to see, you know, where
does Tien go because there are some weaknesses to his game,
which I think Cinner kind of exposed a little bit.
You know, he doesn't have the strongest serve. He's about
twenty k's below the tour average there, so he has
some room to improve in terms of his serve speed.
So there's there's some stuff that he needs to work on.
(16:48):
His double faults often are higher than his aces, so
just he could improve I think the serve there.
Speaker 6 (16:55):
But he's nineteen, so I don't know. I think he
has the mentality of someone much more.
Speaker 4 (17:00):
Well. I was very impressed with him.
Speaker 3 (17:01):
I saw the Medvedev match last year and it seems
like a riper young kid too, a really nice.
Speaker 1 (17:07):
He's actually really nice.
Speaker 4 (17:09):
Yeah, so he's going to be a great addition to
the men's tour. He already is.
Speaker 3 (17:14):
I find those stats quite amazing. That he can perform
better against the better players.
Speaker 4 (17:20):
That's not normal, No, it's not. And what that tells
you is.
Speaker 3 (17:23):
That, you know, when the big moments arrive, it looks
like he's got what it takes. But yeah, he's going
to have to continue to improve, and I could see
how someone with the power of Sinner.
Speaker 4 (17:33):
Might just overpower him a little bit.
Speaker 3 (17:36):
But under pressure, you know, against Medvedev that was a classic.
A young kid who could stand up to five sets
late at night, under pressure and beat someone who'd been
in a couple of Austra and Open finals. It was very,
very impressive, and so I'm so interested in where he
goes over the next sort of I guess twenty four
to thirty six months.
Speaker 5 (17:57):
The first time I saw team play was here. He
made the junior boys final in twenty twenty three, so
we got a little Obviously has a very like a
good relationship with this tournament. It's carried on into the
professional the profession, like the men's event. But yeah, I
think you're making a junior grandson final is certainly an
indicator of talent. But yeah, seeing that kind of core
craftiness at that age he's got the left handed advantage,
(18:18):
which you know that that's just built even if his
serve might be the stats might be down sometimes that
I'm not sure if the data reflexes, but you can
that disadvantage can be counted by the fact you've got
that swinging lefty serve, which not every There's only like
what five to ten percent of players that are lefty,
so returners don't see that serve all the time. So
maybe that is an inbuilt advantage that counters the No.
Speaker 7 (18:40):
He has a great lefty slice out wide, and then
he just starts pounding their backhands. Yeah right, and then
he kind of forces them to go down the line
and he's so quick that he just hat the crass
court backhand and now they're heading a run in chart.
So it's like, I think it is a little bit
of an advantage, Like the speed's not there, but the
slaves I think, like you're saying, can factor in.
Speaker 4 (18:59):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (19:00):
From one.
Speaker 2 (19:02):
Young upper and up and coming, I want to talk
about what caught my eye, which is really the rise
or the continued rise of Eva Liss. She has reached
the quarter final of Beijing, defeating Rebeccna, who is obviously
a top ten player also and has a messed look
this is what I'm looking at as well. She has
(19:23):
a mass more than one hundred and eighty thousand Instagram followers,
and she's rising up to thirty six thousand on TikTok,
which people might think that's not too much, but Eva Liss,
you know, twelve months ago to the general populace, people
may not have known her. We're going to throw to
a little TikTok of her, and then we obviously will
talk a lot about her playing and her tennis.
Speaker 1 (19:43):
But I thought, let's get into some TikTok.
Speaker 9 (19:47):
Excuse me.
Speaker 4 (19:48):
I love your alphad play. I love you Alpha.
Speaker 11 (19:51):
What do you call leven?
Speaker 5 (19:53):
I'm actually here for the congrats.
Speaker 4 (19:56):
What's to name? Okay?
Speaker 9 (19:59):
What do you call your dreams?
Speaker 11 (20:01):
Hello?
Speaker 5 (20:01):
I love the traveling, I love the challenges on Forward.
I mean I'm.
Speaker 1 (20:05):
Always buying myself on Forward. So if I'm winning, I'm winning.
Speaker 5 (20:08):
If I'm living, it's also.
Speaker 6 (20:09):
My follow You do have an amazing outfit.
Speaker 4 (20:11):
I do have to say, I prepare.
Speaker 2 (20:13):
So that's on a Can't underscore Journey Instagram account. He
is quite well known for doing these kind of pop
up and feels like he's surprising people, but I'm pretty
sure it might be created. But I don't want to
be judgmental there, but I suppose I wanted to show
that because she is becoming a name we're thinking about
a little bit more on the women's side, but also
she's bringing out this amazing personality as well, and she's
(20:36):
really working social media that we've seen maybe some of
the I don't want to say older, but the more
mature women aren't necessarily have been using the platforms like this.
But she plays Coco Goff today in the quarterfinals. So
listeners out there, you might hear the results before we do,
and you hear it. Who's going to win them? Fitzi, Matt,
(20:59):
between Coco and Evil.
Speaker 4 (21:00):
You have to back Coco.
Speaker 5 (21:01):
We would have to back Coco. Yeah, she's the defending
champion in Beijing, the world number three. There's been a
lot of discussion on Coco Gov's you know, form struggles,
and she's that will get to this in the episode.
You know, she's tinkering with technique and there things that
are on for Coco that make it make it tougher.
Lisa's also shown this year when she did breakthrough at
the AO she takes advantage of incredible opportunities. Her her
(21:24):
story was so good in January because she was a
lucky loser that got the call up at the very
last minute, so go on court for the first round.
So I think, you know, there was only five or
ten minutes notice and she was playing, and she kind
of translated this into this really inspirational fourth round run
and how appreciative she was, and she talked about how
transferred transformative the money was that she got because of
how she can invest that back into her career. And
(21:46):
I think people.
Speaker 1 (21:47):
Didn't even realize how much she was winning, did she.
Speaker 5 (21:49):
Yeah, And someone presented that to her in an interview,
She's like, oh my god, like yea in her mind.
And I think her kind of natural openness and sharing
her story with fans and then being really present on
social media has made her a bit of a fan favorite.
She's not just your average, you know, rank and file
tool member because there are so many players. Yeah, but
she's continued it on and how that runs. This is
her best result at a WTA thousand and yeah, And
(22:12):
it's just that I think these things kind of create
their momentum. More fans discover her when she does well,
you know, people will respond to that on social media,
her profile grows, and it all just kind of goes
hand in hand. She's becoming one of the stars of
the game.
Speaker 2 (22:24):
Well yeah, and it's so shown through her sponsorships as
well through she's now working with Porsche La Ross posse Assex.
So something's working for her. But let's flip that on
who she's about to play. In terms of Coco Golf, Levi,
you've been looking at some data behind that in terms
of what caught your eye.
Speaker 7 (22:44):
Right, Yeah, we want to look at what has changed
for Coco since last year. And actually the story kind
of revolves around maybe a similar struggle that she's had
with her serve. So she currently leads the tour in
terms of double faults about three hundred and forty sive,
which is a lot, and you can even see that
by the next person is about ninety five double faults
(23:06):
behind her. So she just kind of has a lot
of double faults. And so obviously she's having some issues
with their second serve. She's not being able to have
that comfort with it, and that leads to her not
being able to really hold her serve that well and
that's why we see these kind of really dramatic matches
because she's having to claw her way back and break
(23:28):
them and then find her serve. And so she's going
into these you know, third set matches all the time,
which you might not expect her to do given how
well she plays. So, I mean, she's done a really
good job there as she's twelve and two in terms
of her third set record this year. So she has
this really incredible mentality. But there's a weakness there on
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the second serve, but she's taking action on it. So
she actually hired biomechanic expert. So Gavin McMillan, did.
Speaker 1 (23:59):
She do that before the US Open? Didn't she right before?
Speaker 6 (24:02):
Yeah?
Speaker 5 (24:03):
So, which was considered a very surprising move. Just start
tinkering with your strokes five days out from a mate.
Speaker 7 (24:08):
Yeah, I think it probably just you know, I don't
know if anybody hasn't had the serving yeps, but I had,
and it's like, you know, I can't such an uncomfortable
feeling to not be able to like feel your serve
and know if it's going to go in.
Speaker 6 (24:22):
It's it's really difficult.
Speaker 3 (24:23):
Oh I had those feelings. Yeah, it's a long time ago.
But what annoys me is I can still remember them vividly,
you know, from it was it was terrible, a terrible
feeling if you thought you had a bit of the
yips on and you lost your confidence. So that will
be really draining for her. So she needs to improve
that technique, I think, get the serve right for her
(24:44):
to fulfill her destiny, so to speak. I think, but
she's such a she's so good in so many other
areas that she'll have most of the players you'd think
on the WTA two covered even without that, But to
win the majors, she's probably going to need to get
this run.
Speaker 7 (25:00):
Yeah, So some things that McMillan I think would be
looking at. We kind of analyze the data that we
have and we said, okay, Biomechanically, they track the limbs
of the different players, so you can see, okay, what
looks different. So I try to find a player that
serves well and is kind of has a similar height
as Coco. So Ega Coco both five nine are about
(25:22):
one hundred and seventy five centimeters, so you can kind
of compare apples to apples there.
Speaker 6 (25:26):
And what you see Ega do is she.
Speaker 7 (25:29):
Actually has about twenty four percent more leg drive as
we call it, or basically the speed coming in on
her second serve from her legs, how fast is she
pushing up? And about twenty three percent more wrist speed
on her second serve, So I think Coco's not really
accelerating into her shots.
Speaker 10 (25:46):
Now.
Speaker 6 (25:46):
How McMillan goes about fixing that.
Speaker 7 (25:49):
He's the expert there, but he actually worked with Sabalanka,
so he's kind of a serve doctor. So I hopefully
we'll see some real changes there because I think once
she locks in that serve, I mean it's going to
be it's going to be crazy.
Speaker 6 (26:03):
So I mean, if if you.
Speaker 7 (26:04):
Look at how it's changed so far, she has done
a bit better with the five matches post having the
new coach, but with the kind of most recent performance.
You look at the Leyla match, she had nine double faults.
Speaker 6 (26:20):
And really struggled with their serves.
Speaker 7 (26:22):
So I think it's still there, work in progress, but
it's something it's something to look.
Speaker 6 (26:27):
For in terms of improvement. See if that changes as
you go into the finals.
Speaker 1 (26:30):
And look at what we saw. The turnaround on Sablanca.
Speaker 5 (26:33):
Oh remember the turnaround on Sabolenka is one of I
think one of the most underrated stories in sport because
she had service hips that were even worse than Goths
in twenty twenty two and was like weeping on court,
like it was really falling apart. And twelve months later,
I still can't. I'll never forget watching her serve out
the Australian Open title twelve months later and thinking like,
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you've come so far and you're now serving for your
first major title and it's the shot that you required
that twelve months ago was causing you so much grief,
but it was so much safer and she managed to
do that. And look what she's gone on to do.
She's one four majors and that's never really been a
problem for saball Aancor. Again it's I think she's mostly
put that to bed because her technique is more sure.
Also what you said with the data as well, Coco
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not getting the leg drive up. It tallies with where
the double flats are going, most of them going to
the net, and so she's not getting I guess that
I'm not the biomechanist, but not getting the extension that
she needs and she Fionte's done such a great job
of improving her serve in the last few or two,
so it is an interesting comparison.
Speaker 1 (27:33):
So quarterfinal action is starting this afternoon.
Speaker 2 (27:35):
Let's see how Coco Surf goes and let's see how
Lis presents herself on court. We've got more of the
tennis coming up after the break, including a preview of
the Shanghai Masters from Reese to Duke who is calling
in again, and of course my Asian Tennis quiz for
this week.
Speaker 1 (27:52):
So stay with us.
Speaker 2 (27:57):
Time to find out what else is making news in
China back by popular demand, as was FITZI, We've got.
Speaker 1 (28:03):
Rece with a beautiful backdrop there.
Speaker 2 (28:05):
Tell us where you are, what you're doing, clearly not
working hard enough from the looks of things, not.
Speaker 11 (28:12):
Working hard enough at all. But I will head into
the site shortly just from my accommodation at the moment
here in Shanghai for the Shanghai Rolex Masters, which is
a very exciting event and yeah, looking forward to it
as the seas will get underway in the coming days
and we've had first round action kickoff yesterday.
Speaker 5 (28:28):
How's it all feeling over there?
Speaker 11 (28:29):
Reece?
Speaker 5 (28:30):
You were telling us off air that it is China's
I think national holiday week over there, and there's a
pretty good energy at the tournament in Shanghai.
Speaker 11 (28:37):
It's been crazy. Matt I went out last night to
the pun just to walk around and there is just
thousands of people everywhere. It was their main Golden week
National Day holiday yesterday and then they'll have the whole
week traveling around with their national holiday week, and it
has just been Yeah, it was hectic. It was pretty
hard to get anywhere, but a great atmosphere, great vibe,
(28:58):
and so those the Shanghai Masters look forward to this
tournament for a long time. There's activations everywhere in the city.
You can watch tennants on the big screens. And yeah,
some big names that they love involved as well.
Speaker 2 (29:09):
And so in terms of some of those big names
you're just talking about, I know, Djokovic is very loved
in China and he wasn't yet sure whether he's going
to play Shanghai. So what's the energy around that knowing
he is there.
Speaker 11 (29:22):
Yeah, they absolutely love him here. He is like adored
by the Chinese people.
Speaker 5 (29:27):
Yeah, and he was.
Speaker 11 (29:28):
Yeah, he was like like you said, no one really
knows what events Novak's going to play, and he was
a really laugh minute inclusion I loved how they announced
it two on social media. They had their poster with
all the players and they're like, oh, sorry, we forgot someone,
and then they put Novak smack bang in the middle,
nice and big.
Speaker 1 (29:45):
Else.
Speaker 11 (29:47):
Yeah, but he is the star attraction. He came into
the site the last couple of days and he speaks Chinese.
Speaker 5 (29:54):
To all the locals and they just absolutely love him.
Speaker 11 (29:57):
And he obviously made the final here last year where
he's it was against Sinner on the same half of
the draw as Cinner this time round, but those two
will certainly be favorites to square off in the semi
final again.
Speaker 3 (30:10):
What about the venue up there in Shanghai, I mean
it's you know, I was up there a long time ago,
over a decade ago, and it was pretty staggering then.
But obviously it's needed some upgrades. I guess what have
they done in recent times up there.
Speaker 11 (30:21):
Yeah, Like you say, it's absolutely staggering just how big
the site is, Like it's Grand Slam levels. I don't
know what the actual dimensions are, but it feels bigger
than like what Wimbledon is. They have massive stadium courts
with retractable roofs, and their stadium two court. Just in
the last twelve months they've added a roof to that
one as well, so handy because they've had a lot
of rain here in the pollis and everything, so they've
(30:44):
needed the roof stadiums to get through. But yeah, just
things happen so quickly here with builds in China that
they just opt up a roof twelve months on and
they've got this massive stadium with a roof on it.
Speaker 1 (30:56):
Now that would be a scheduling dream.
Speaker 5 (30:58):
If there's more courts with absolutely, I'm sure.
Speaker 1 (31:02):
And we've got a lot of Ossie's over there, yeah.
Speaker 11 (31:05):
Yeah, we do. It's not as it's not as record
breaking as I mentioned last week with the women at
the thousand event in Beijing where he had the one
qualifier with Tristan school Kate who lost yesterday to Daniel Altmeyer.
Adam Walton also lost yesterday, but Jordan Thompson got up
in three sets to August Hunger and he's looking in
a little bit of trouble early that he got through,
(31:26):
so he's the first qualifier. He's the first player in
the main draw to join Demon in the second round.
Chris O'Connell will play today and obviously Demon coming up
some great form with a great run in Beijing and
a career best performance against Gannick Sinner. He's on the
Alcaz half of the draw and with Alcoraz pulling out
now it's a great opportunity for Demon, so watch out.
(31:47):
He's playing, he's got He's had a busy schedule, but
he's in some great form as well on these ardcords.
Speaker 2 (31:53):
And how's Jordan Thompson's back injury? Looking from your point
of view.
Speaker 11 (31:57):
Yeah, well it held up okay. Yesterday he was he
was ticking along. I don't think he's still one. But
as we know Tom, he's as tough as anything and
he fights through. He knows his body better than anyone else,
so we'll trust him that he's making the right decisions.
Speaker 4 (32:12):
Pree, Have you been worried about Tom Berny chance or
I'm always worried about him. Obviously a bit of a fan,
do you know?
Speaker 2 (32:20):
Luke Saville told him that I'm a fan and so
now I'm just horrendously embarrassed.
Speaker 6 (32:25):
So I don't think.
Speaker 4 (32:29):
Should the only person in Melbourne that doesn't know.
Speaker 1 (32:36):
Oh, it's so awkward.
Speaker 2 (32:39):
Before we say goodbye to you, Ree, any other top
tips or things that are happening over there that we
should know about in our listeners.
Speaker 11 (32:46):
Yeah, well, just get yourself out to explore if you're
around in Shanghai coming to the Shanghai Masters. There's a
lot of expats living in Shanghai that have been out
to the tennis and they've had a great event. It
is a long way out from the city, so be
prepared for a decent travel journey. But even if you
are in the city, there's plenty of pop ups, activations,
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plasers to watch on big screens, and it's just the
general vibe of their national National holiday week has just
been great in Shanghai. So it's an event that I'd
recommend putting on the bucket list for any tennis fan
as well.
Speaker 4 (33:18):
Hey, how good are the Bullet Trains Force?
Speaker 11 (33:20):
Yeah? I got to Shanghai in about four hours from
Beijing time to watch the second half of the AFL
Grand Final and watch the lines get up, And there
was an Aussie brewery in Shanghai that I watched it
with Australia. It's a great day. I missed the Grand Vinyl. Yeah,
(33:40):
well that was a travel day.
Speaker 2 (33:42):
I'm I'm joking you work hard all the time, you
may have your fun I'm joking. Yeah, Well, we will
say goodbye to you and wish you luck in your
last day working on the ground there in Shanghai, and
we'll see you back here probably in the studio I
think in the coming weeks as well next week.
Speaker 11 (33:58):
Thanks Bree, Thanks everyone, he's so nice.
Speaker 5 (34:01):
See Reese, I'm really well.
Speaker 2 (34:02):
We all are in our team ready for him to
come home because there's plenty of work to get done here, mate,
to get on back. But what else has been happening
in tennis world, Matt.
Speaker 5 (34:12):
Well, yeah, there's the news that Gail Montfees has announced
he will play his final season on tour next year,
and he'll be turning forty next September, so it will
bring to a close an incredibly long, a twenty two
year professional career that began in two thousand and four.
Monfies is like a legend of the sport, such a
(34:32):
fan favorite. Plays tennis in a way that I think
is kind of like unseen before. The athleticism, his shot
making ability, the way he engages with crowds, he's dancing
like Yeah, there's so many elements of his personality in
his game that make him so watchable, and even this
year at the AO he upset Taylor Fritz and he
made it through to the fourth round of the AO
(34:53):
at age thirty eight. He in the last couple of
years has won some incredible five set matches at Roland
Garross in front of the fans in Paris. These are
just these incredible things that I guess he's playing for,
these those feelings, those highs. He might not be at
the absolute peak of his career. I think he got
to number six in the world a little while ago
and has made a couple of Grand Slam semi finals,
(35:13):
so he's not maybe quite at that level. But when
he's healthy and fit and motivated, which he is at
the moment for the most part, he can still play
and beat the world's best players. So it's going to
be a real loss from the sport when he goes.
But it's great. I guess that we know, we've got
to know, like, go and see him one last time
if you can, wherever you are in the world, because yeah,
(35:34):
it's it's the end of a very special career.
Speaker 7 (35:36):
Yeah, I think if anyone's in Paris when he's playing,
you have to be you have to go there, and
I think you'll be a safe to see when they
send them off, because the French are very good at
celebrating their players. I was lucky enough to see songas
last match and just the you know, everything that they
do for the player on core they bring out all
(35:57):
the French nationals and so I think that would be
a very cool thing to see.
Speaker 6 (36:01):
Shout out to anyone there.
Speaker 4 (36:02):
Yeah, yeah, well I agree.
Speaker 3 (36:05):
He's been such an entertainer, very unique individual on a
tennis court, and what an athlete he's been. You just
can't recover, you know, the older you get, you can
still play one really great match here at the Strain
Open was was probably a testament to that. He got
through a couple of matches, three matches in fact, but
just ran out of gas because you just cannot recover
(36:27):
the same as you get older.
Speaker 4 (36:29):
I don't know.
Speaker 3 (36:29):
It looks like he's going on a retirement tour. He's
announced it early, hasn't he.
Speaker 2 (36:34):
Do you think that was the strategy for I think
I can't speak for parties.
Speaker 5 (36:38):
With a whole lot of little parties in between gifts.
Speaker 3 (36:41):
There could be a celebrations every week he plays, but
he deserves a good sendoff.
Speaker 4 (36:47):
He's been.
Speaker 3 (36:49):
He's been a wonderful addition, I think to our sport
over two decades now.
Speaker 1 (36:52):
Yeah, it's going to be What do you think his
legacy will be?
Speaker 3 (36:56):
Well, I think that he's I think that he's been
the entertainer, the character. The eight years difference between when
he made a semi final at the French Open and
then a semi final at the US Open, it's pretty
an interesting stat in itself. Longevity speaks speaks a lot
for a player, but I think I think it's hard
(37:16):
to not remember him almost first and foremost as the entertainer. Yeah,
it's hard not to imagine him as that.
Speaker 7 (37:23):
Yeah, I mean you see the shots that Alcaraz has
hitding now and it's like Gairl was hitting those shots,
yeah twenty years ago or whatever. But yeah, so I
think he is the entertainer for sure.
Speaker 2 (37:34):
And then on the flip side, we have some other
news in fact that been Mugarutha has announced her pregnancy, Yeah.
Speaker 5 (37:40):
Which is exciting. That is exciting. I mean her her
career probably ended a little sooner than your average career
does these, so something she retired by twenty nine or
thirty and back in the day that wasn't unusual, but
now we see how long careers extend. Yeah, you know,
she wound up her career a little bit, a little
bit sooner, but she's we vive and I were actually
(38:01):
very lucky to have her on the sit down a
couple of months ago, and she talked about has really
enjoyed kind of transitioning into retired life. She's she being
a pro tennis player and being so successful for such
a young age, from such a young age, meant that
she missed all those normal things. She talked about how
much she liked being at home, cooking and garden and
doing those kinds of regular like domestic, everyday life things
(38:22):
and going at a bit of a slower pace. She's
still connected with tennis. She is the WTF Finals tournament
director and does commentary stuff there. But yeah, she got married,
and yeah, I guess this is the next step in
her post tennis, you know, slower life, post career. Yeah,
that she'll become a mum, which is which is really lovely.
Speaker 2 (38:41):
It is so congrats Ti Mucgarutha. We are thinking of
you and good luck. But we're going to dip into
my favorite part of the shows when we do it
the quiz.
Speaker 5 (38:51):
We've got a quiz.
Speaker 2 (38:53):
We tried to do this quiz last week and we
realized it was factually incorrect, so we're doing it again
this week. We cut it out last week, So is
everyone ready? We're gonna run it off. I'll do the
numbers one, two, three, for five and just say your
name as your buzzer and we'll see who wins. Ready, Okay, one,
(39:17):
where's my number?
Speaker 4 (39:18):
One?
Speaker 6 (39:18):
There we go?
Speaker 5 (39:18):
Won one?
Speaker 2 (39:20):
So which atp Asian host city is known for its
futuristic skyline and the Pearl Tower such Shanghai. Yes, it
was so easy this this.
Speaker 6 (39:32):
Question because it's from week.
Speaker 1 (39:36):
To Okay, number two, we've got multiple choice.
Speaker 2 (39:38):
This is also ranked as easy, so hopefully you guys
can get it. Who is the only player to have
won the Shanghai Masters more than once?
Speaker 4 (39:48):
Pity go Roger?
Speaker 5 (39:54):
No, Matt, Yeah? Is it Jokovic?
Speaker 1 (39:58):
Yes?
Speaker 4 (39:58):
Say I can't.
Speaker 5 (40:00):
Believe I use my buzzer correctly.
Speaker 2 (40:04):
If this was last week, we could have said maybe
you were right, because we weren't sure because nothing was
factually checked.
Speaker 4 (40:10):
But now we have sure you didn't get this one
wrong as well.
Speaker 5 (40:15):
So it's two to you, Matt scoring okay, well one
one legitimate one and one cheating one? But did you cheat?
Well no, apparently I just didn't follow the order. I
didn't do my buzz. I'll gue it to you.
Speaker 1 (40:27):
K three, this is a medium?
Speaker 2 (40:30):
What surface and color is used for the China Open
in Beijing?
Speaker 6 (40:36):
Hardcore and blue?
Speaker 5 (40:38):
Not done?
Speaker 4 (40:40):
Is it just points for that?
Speaker 10 (40:43):
Sure?
Speaker 4 (40:44):
All right? All right?
Speaker 2 (40:48):
We love you, so you we won't make fun of
you that you're on last four, which isn't Asian City
is also famous for its Sakura festival.
Speaker 5 (41:00):
Pitty, well done, you're on the board.
Speaker 2 (41:04):
We've got three one, two one maybe Matt three your two?
Speaker 6 (41:10):
LEVI do you know what means?
Speaker 5 (41:13):
What does it mean?
Speaker 6 (41:14):
I think it means like flower or like cherry blast.
Speaker 4 (41:16):
I thought it was an alcoholic drink cherry.
Speaker 5 (41:21):
To go there?
Speaker 1 (41:23):
Okay?
Speaker 2 (41:24):
Next one, which Southeast Asian country and former at P
and W T A host nation, is known for its
national disc dish dish called Nassi Lamac.
Speaker 5 (41:34):
Matt, Yes, was it country or city? Country? Malaysia?
Speaker 1 (41:38):
Yes, Matt, I would have gone for like Indonesian.
Speaker 4 (41:43):
Yeah, I couldn't remember.
Speaker 2 (41:46):
Probably have quite a lot of dishes that they have
in both countries as well the overlap.
Speaker 1 (41:51):
So Matt, that makes you the winner.
Speaker 5 (41:53):
Congratulations one of quiz on here.
Speaker 2 (41:56):
Do you know why I asked the questions because I've
not got the the.
Speaker 5 (42:02):
Advantage of being the host.
Speaker 1 (42:03):
Thanks for humoring me with another quiz all of you.
Speaker 2 (42:07):
But we're going to get into ace of the week,
which is everyone's favorite time of the week. Do we
have anyone who would like to bid ongoing first?
Speaker 7 (42:15):
I can go first, Yeah, fantic So I rented a
car and went out to Warburton, Congratulations, which was kind
of a fun thing driving on the left side. It's
northeast of Melbourne, kind of out there in the mountains
or hills, but really.
Speaker 6 (42:34):
Pretty out there. Yeah.
Speaker 7 (42:36):
The Jara goes all the way up there, and so yeah,
this is a really nice area and there's like a
little rainforest canopy thing you can go on the lake.
So definitely would recommend anyone visiting Melbourne to go out
and check out Arbiton.
Speaker 5 (42:50):
Fantastic.
Speaker 2 (42:51):
And I've just realized this serve clock is up. So
you did that really well with ten seconds. So FITZI,
you haven't been here for a couple of weeks. We
now have a serve clock which gives us.
Speaker 3 (43:01):
This is to get on and off quickly, totally over
to you. It's a very polite way to tell me
to be short. This morning, I was delighted. I went
over to the Australian Tennis Championships the opening. In fact,
I had the pleasure of opening the Australian Tennis Championships
for players with intellectual impairment. There were sixty players there.
That brought a warm and fuzzy feeling. It was a
(43:22):
freezing morning, but they're over there as we speak, playing competing.
We've got some of the best players in the world. Yeah,
they've had great success on the world stage and they
probably will again this year.
Speaker 4 (43:35):
So that made my day.
Speaker 5 (43:36):
Yeah, some on my.
Speaker 2 (43:37):
Team were there too, and they said it was just amazing,
so good. Oh my god, exactly on thirty seconds you have.
Speaker 5 (43:45):
No time violation. Perfect, Thank you, Matt. I guess mine
is a little tennis related, but I during COVID I
really got into reading like tennis books so not yeah,
so like not you know, famous tennis novels, and one
I picked up while I at the US Open this
year was Levels of the Game. So it goes into
this detail of the match between Arthur Ash and Clark
(44:05):
Grabner at the US Open. It was written in like
nineteen sixty nine, and it's meant to be like one
of the best ever tennis books. So I've just started
it and it is. It's wonderful levels of the game. Okay,
So yeah, that's I'm really enjoying getting back into my
tennis reading. I love that. I love how much you
are so in love with tennis. I'm building a little
I've got a little shelf. That's my tennis book shelf.
Speaker 4 (44:27):
Do you know much about Arthur Esh's career?
Speaker 5 (44:29):
No, I'm learning masses.
Speaker 4 (44:31):
Here we hear by the time you finish.
Speaker 5 (44:33):
Yeah, Oh, it's wonderful. So yeah, it's really really, really interesting.
Speaker 4 (44:36):
Right.
Speaker 1 (44:36):
Yeah, we'll have to get you to review it when
you're done.
Speaker 5 (44:38):
All right, and over to me.
Speaker 2 (44:40):
I suppose for Ace of the Week, I've kind of
got two because one is, oh.
Speaker 5 (44:44):
God, the clock.
Speaker 1 (44:45):
I always forget about the clock.
Speaker 2 (44:48):
Firstly, Taylor Swift her next album lands tomorrow at two pm.
I know you're all excited. So that's my first one.
I cannot wait. The second one is my girlfriends and
I are diving to Geelong on Friday night just to
have a girl's weekend because they all know that I'm
about to be consumed by the Strain Open. So we're
just going away for a little time together to have
(45:08):
a little break before the Astrain open.
Speaker 1 (45:10):
That's three seconds to go. I had to get Taylor
in there as well.
Speaker 4 (45:15):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (45:16):
So yeah, heading to Geelong, which would be lovely. It's
not stand there.
Speaker 6 (45:19):
I actually really ranged along.
Speaker 4 (45:21):
Yeah, I was there yesterday.
Speaker 1 (45:23):
How was it the.
Speaker 4 (45:26):
Ocean front there? You know, the water beautiful?
Speaker 5 (45:28):
Yeah, beautiful.
Speaker 2 (45:30):
I'm from Newcastle and when I go there, it kind
of reminds me of being back home because there's more
ocean close by, which I really miss here in Melbourne.
But that really does wrap us up for the week.
I want to thank you Fitzi for coming in and
also for your amazing work today with the ATC.
Speaker 4 (45:45):
Thank you for having me.
Speaker 2 (45:46):
We loved it, We love seeing you. And also LEVI
always a pleasure to have you. Obviously, your brain, your data,
your insights, and your American accent so we look to
generate sexual harassment training will come and get me, but yes,
and your good looks and Matt, obviously I would sit
(46:06):
next to you every day of the week and love
having you here, love listening to you on the sit Down,
so thank you for filling in for Save while he
is away.
Speaker 5 (46:14):
You're welcome and shameless plug. We have Priscilla Hon on
Monday's episode of The sit Down. Fantastic timing to talk
to her given what she's been achieving and making her
top one hundred debut next week, so we had a
really good.
Speaker 4 (46:26):
Chat with her. Amazing her best tennis.
Speaker 1 (46:29):
Yes we are.
Speaker 2 (46:30):
And while we are on that topic, if you are
wanting to watch more tennis, and obviously for those who
are really big tennis nuts, Tennis Australia have partnered with
b and Sports so you can watch all the ATP
and WTA Tour as well as our very own AUSSI
Pro Tour and Junior Nationals. If you subscribe now, you
can get all this for lesson ten dollars a month
(46:51):
with our exclusive Tennis Australia offer, which is actually amazing,
so please head to the link in our show notes.
Speaker 5 (46:57):
If you're keen to watch.
Speaker 1 (46:58):
Priscilla Hon for example, fantastic head on over.
Speaker 2 (47:02):
But thank you all for being here, keep watching tennis,
keep listening to us.
Speaker 1 (47:06):
We'll be back next week and thank you.
Speaker 9 (47:09):
Hey, everyone.
Speaker 11 (47:10):
Harps and Andy here just want to remind you that
you can watch every episode of the Tennis on our
YouTube channel, Australian Open TV.
Speaker 8 (47:16):
And we have an email as well podcast at tennis
dot com dot au. If you thought the show was
amazing or you thought it was terrible, we are keen
to hear from you. We'll read it, so feedback comments,
whatever it is, Get in touch with us at our
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Speaker 4 (47:31):
Catch you later.
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