June 1, 2025 • 27 mins
As Carina and Jacob recover from her birthday celebrations, they reflect on their very different experiences growing up wog. Whereas Carina spent so long ashamed of not being like the other girls in her school, and rejecting her Italian heritage, Jacob always felt part of such a big, diverse community and embraced his Croatian background. Surprisingly, it was the rise of the Kardashians that really helped Carina first learn to love and accept herself… which is why she freaked out when the producers surprised her with Kris Jenner’s phone number and the opportunity to thank the famous momager for all she’s done.
A note for international listeners: In Australia, wog is seen as a term of endearment for people of Mediterranean descent.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Eh, that's really disgusting. Why do you make that sound?
Speaker 2 (00:04):
Sorry, I'm just clear my throat. It's been a long
few days.
Speaker 1 (00:08):
It's been a really big weekend.
Speaker 3 (00:21):
Welcome to episode two of This Is Chaos. Everyone has
tuned in and made such lovely comments.
Speaker 2 (00:28):
Yes, I think we've had really good feedback.
Speaker 1 (00:30):
Yeah, I've had one so many dams seeing like how
amazing and how much people have loved listening to the
first episode, and we're like, yeah, this is a good start.
We're onto a good start.
Speaker 2 (00:42):
We're also still recovering from the weekend.
Speaker 1 (00:44):
What are weekend we went out for? Obviously your birthday
thirty two? How does it feel to thirty two?
Speaker 2 (00:51):
I don't know whether to cry happy because I'm like,
I feel like I'm just hitting my peak right now.
Speaker 1 (01:00):
That's good. It feels like a bit more like but
I growing up, yeah.
Speaker 2 (01:04):
And maturing.
Speaker 3 (01:05):
But then looking back, I think my mom had me
and I was the last one, but she already had
four kids before me at this age, I think she
had met anyway. And then my sister has got four kids,
and I think by the age of thirty two she
already had three.
Speaker 1 (01:22):
So I'm like, like, give me the kids. I need
kids in my stomach right now. I say that because
we had a really big night on Saturday.
Speaker 2 (01:31):
It was wild. I can't believe. I think I'm still recovering.
Speaker 1 (01:35):
I feel like I'm good, I'm okay. I'm on a
bit of a high today. I don't know, I feel
a bit. I don't know if it's a bit weird
for me. Last week I was a bit.
Speaker 2 (01:42):
You've got my energy, ye.
Speaker 3 (01:47):
I'm you know, I'm going to get quite open right now.
I'm about to get my period and I'm here messing.
Speaker 1 (01:54):
We've got a white couch.
Speaker 3 (01:55):
I know, I know, but I'm preparing. It's okay, but
I and PM messing hard. And you know what's so crazy.
When we were in the experiment and filming, we would
talk openly about this to the producers and the camera
crew and the audio. When they would come into the apartment,
you just felt the energy was well. I did, because
(02:15):
when I was P messing or I had my period,
I was like a different person on set and I
would tell them and be like, so sorry.
Speaker 2 (02:22):
This is what I'm going through, this is how I feel.
Speaker 3 (02:24):
I'm agitated, I'm frustrated, I'm short tempered and I'm hungry.
Speaker 1 (02:30):
I wish I could feel pod feel.
Speaker 2 (02:32):
It's the worst feeling.
Speaker 3 (02:33):
Honestly, you guys are so lucky because women they still
have to go to work, they still have to and
their attitude and they're just like I'm short tempered, and
I'm like, I don't move on, like cut the bullshit.
Speaker 2 (02:47):
I'm over it.
Speaker 3 (02:48):
I just don't want I just want to lay in
bed and eat and and you.
Speaker 2 (02:53):
Know what's so crazy.
Speaker 3 (02:54):
While we're filming the experiment, all the girls, even our
producers and the rest of us cast.
Speaker 2 (03:00):
Members, we're kind of all in sync. How weird?
Speaker 1 (03:02):
You guys all had your period at the same time.
Speaker 2 (03:04):
Yeah, along the same duration.
Speaker 1 (03:06):
It's crazy with you. I don't know how handle crazy
how that happened.
Speaker 3 (03:10):
But anyway, talking about that, I feel a little bit
right now.
Speaker 1 (03:14):
That's okay, that's all right. We're here, We're here, we're here.
Ready we part episode two.
Speaker 2 (03:19):
We partied a lot on the weekend.
Speaker 1 (03:22):
We went out to a beautiful dinner, saying one of
my favorite places. And then I wasn't actually going to drink,
but then you were like, come on, like have a
few drinks my bed.
Speaker 3 (03:31):
I was surprise me for dinner. Beautiful Asian fusion restaurants.
Let's turn up, let's continue these. What do we get,
the spicy margaritas.
Speaker 1 (03:39):
The Tommy, Oh, the Tommy, Yeah, chili Tommy.
Speaker 2 (03:43):
And then we ended up.
Speaker 3 (03:44):
At Tanooki and then the rest of the night, just
six am the.
Speaker 1 (03:48):
Next I haven't partied like that since I was eighteen.
That was crazy.
Speaker 3 (03:52):
I mean, I'm thirty two and I still did it.
But it's showing because it's taking me almost half a
week or three days to get I've slept so much,
and same with you. Yesterday we were in our fields.
Speaker 1 (04:07):
So while at the restaurant, let's give a bit of
a backstory. While in the restaurant, we saw couples and
we were like, I was like, I just we were
just I just feel lonely. I just feel lonely. The
people thought, yeah, a couple, and then beautiful girls next
to us were like, Hi Crean, Hi Jacob or hi nice.
Speaker 2 (04:23):
We loved it. We were we were like, we gave
him the math slow down. Anyway. We were very single.
Speaker 1 (04:30):
Yeah single, So we.
Speaker 3 (04:34):
My birthday in my fields. Jacob also in his fields,
trying to figure out his situation and what's.
Speaker 1 (04:40):
Going I mean, I'm very single. But we went to
a beautiful crystal shop and I was like, Crener, let's
get some like incense going, let's get the love in
the room. Like maybe if we do this, things will
come our way. Right.
Speaker 2 (04:54):
Well, in Bondai.
Speaker 3 (04:55):
Junction, within one crystal store, they didn't have the taro car.
Speaker 2 (04:58):
So then Jacob was like, we're on a mission.
Speaker 3 (05:01):
I need to find these tarot cards and we went
very far. Still in Bondi Junction, we found another store
and it was it was inviting. The lady was talking
about how it's like the new moon.
Speaker 1 (05:15):
Yeah, it is the new Moon.
Speaker 3 (05:16):
Yeah, And I was like, I've just moved into my
brand new apartment. I need to sage it, get rid
of all the negative energy. She even said to me,
She's like, okay, start at the front of the door.
And what you have to do is like even when
you get your uber eats, you just don't know where
the energy is kind of thing. So she was like,
make sure you walk around the whole house and have
the doors open. So what are we doing right now?
Speaker 2 (05:38):
What did she buy?
Speaker 1 (05:39):
I'm going to bring some love into the pod today. Yeah, okay,
for anyone listening, we're going.
Speaker 2 (05:45):
To some love.
Speaker 1 (05:49):
We're going. So this is a love stick, and he's
supposed to bring love to us.
Speaker 3 (05:54):
It says, create moments of connection and intimme sty and
enjoy your time together even more.
Speaker 2 (05:59):
Is that between you and me?
Speaker 1 (06:00):
Or no? No, I mean it's it's for someone to come
to us dogs.
Speaker 2 (06:04):
I like it. Wow, made with love?
Speaker 1 (06:07):
Yes, I feel like we need to do a little
bit of a taro spread just because I don't know
what's going on in my love life and you don't
know either. So let's feel a bit of a spread and.
Speaker 3 (06:18):
See, well, my future husband come towards me the next
couple of months.
Speaker 1 (06:22):
Let's do it. Let's find out. So right now, I'm
going to call upon my spirit guides. I'm going to
call upon my spirit guides to give me an accurate
reading on Karna and her love life and see what's ahead.
Are you ready?
Speaker 2 (06:36):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (06:36):
Please, King, there's some swords there. Has someone hurt you?
Speaker 2 (06:40):
Do good thing about it?
Speaker 1 (06:43):
So, he says, you feel stuck like you're waiting on
someone or something to change again, but it's not moving
fast enough. You may be second guessing yourself, overthinking, or
feeling like your love life is going in circles your questioning,
was it worth it? Okay, there's likely someone around you
who is very slow moving, someone careful, logical, and maybe
(07:05):
emotionally reserved. This person is there's no one around you.
This is weird, and maybe someone's coming. Is someone coming?
Someone's coming? Yeah, the next.
Speaker 2 (07:15):
Couple of months, please come my way. Send me a
DM all.
Speaker 3 (07:18):
I want, send me a message European man with the
same morals and values and is hard working, A bit
older than me, I mean, thirty seven years up is good.
Speaker 2 (07:31):
But honestly, if that's you, DM me, and I'm for real,
I want to go on a date. Maybe we should
make this a thing.
Speaker 3 (07:37):
Maybe we should go on day date once a week
and then we digest it on our podcast about it.
Speaker 1 (07:42):
Oh, I can't even get one day.
Speaker 3 (07:43):
I want serious applicants like I don't want I don't
want any of the fluff.
Speaker 2 (07:48):
I don't want jokesters. I'm serious about this.
Speaker 1 (07:51):
It basically says your love life is in a transitional space.
You're moving, You're emotionally invested but beginning to feel the
weight of way and not knowing. You're surrounded by slow, emotional,
unavailable energy, but in your heart you want to move
forward with confidence, clarity, and celebration. Oh that's so accurate,
because so it says, take your blindfold off, stop waiting
(08:13):
for someone else to decide, choose growth, be clear about
what you want and you won't set and what you
won't settle for. That's that's pretty deep.
Speaker 2 (08:19):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (08:20):
I mean, I've been meeting so many people while I've
been doing you know, the appearances and going out and
that kind of thing. Obviously now living in a different city,
but I feel like the Sydney men are trash like there,
and from the stories that I've been hearing about dating here,
apparently like there's every one male, there's like three to
(08:43):
five women here in Sydney.
Speaker 2 (08:45):
So I'm I'm doomed. I'm honestly doomed.
Speaker 3 (08:51):
If that's the case, I might as well go back
to Perth and start dating again there. I feel like
Sydney men are so emotionally unavailable, or they're dating see
multiple women, or they're coming out like.
Speaker 1 (09:02):
That's just everyone though, like that's that's every person.
Speaker 3 (09:06):
I mean in Perth, the dating culture, I think they're
just a little bit more laid back in children. They
want like longevity and they want that family dynamic that's
what Perth is quite renowned for, and a beautiful family upbringing.
Everyone settles there a lot more earlier than here on
the East Coast. That's something I've noticed. I don't know
(09:26):
whether it's because it's such a big city and people
are coming and going, I don't know, I don't know,
but from what I hear, the dating pool is next
to none here, and you know, it's all short term,
fulfilled men and then onto the next And that freaks
me out to the point where I'm like, you know, what,
(09:47):
I meet people, it's you know, there's a difference between
meeting people and instantly having a connection with someone.
Speaker 2 (09:53):
You can meet.
Speaker 3 (09:54):
Multiple people every day, but whether you have a deep
connection or like an instant connection, that's a whole different ballgame.
Speaker 2 (10:00):
That's a whole different Kellor Fish.
Speaker 3 (10:02):
So yeah, I'm shutting myself off right now because I'm like,
I am still probably healing from what I went through
in the experiment, and then also on top of that
my past relationship where I thought I was going.
Speaker 1 (10:14):
To and everything. Yeah, it's just kind of like, yeah.
Speaker 2 (10:16):
But I'm like, come on, bring it to me, bring
the person to me.
Speaker 1 (10:22):
I'm actually a bit concerned about my reading.
Speaker 2 (10:24):
Why have you done yours?
Speaker 1 (10:26):
Yeah, I just did mine. It says that my next partner,
well I've never had a partner, but my next partner
is with someone else at the moment. Yeah, that's a weird. Wait,
I don't know.
Speaker 2 (10:39):
We kind of luky know this. I got a baby,
gotta be patient.
Speaker 3 (10:43):
I mean, I have a question for you though, if
you got poached to go on Mass like I was
poached on Instagram and was asked for audition.
Speaker 2 (10:52):
If you were poached, would you go on the show?
Speaker 1 (10:56):
I've had thoughts about it. But then again, like I
just don't know if if I could deal with the
hate and the backlash and the media. Yeah, because that's
it's pretty heavy stuff and I don't know if I
can handle that. I thought I did have thick skin,
but after fashion week, after fashion week, I was like,
I don't and I don't think I can. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (11:14):
Look, I didn't even consider the thick skin point of view.
When I was going through all the different auditions and
signing the contract to then go on the show, I
was just like more in the head space, Oh my god,
I'm going to be matched with someone and this could
be my forever person.
Speaker 2 (11:30):
And that's great.
Speaker 3 (11:31):
I just saw like the fairy tale side of what
a show could be about. But I don't know, I
think over you know, I'm thirty two now, so I
have lived in my twenties and I've lived such a blessed,
grateful life where I have taken every opportunity that comes
my way. But I've also learned to be who I
am today, and it hasn't been easy. I remember when
(11:54):
I was younger and in high school, I went to
the most surfy Australian demographics school you could think of,
so gra Heart Catholic College, and it was right across
the road from the beach, and I was the minority.
I was like the pretty much one of the biggest
wogs at that school. And the only reason why I
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went there was because my mom went to that high
school and that all my other siblings went to that
high school. But I found it really hard to accept
my heritage and to accept being European when all I
saw around me were Australians.
Speaker 1 (12:29):
And you know it, really that's really interesting because at
my school it was like predominantly wogs, Like there was Croatians.
You've got your Greeks Italians, like, we didn't have many
Aussies there, so that's weird. So what was your experience.
Speaker 2 (12:44):
It was tough.
Speaker 3 (12:45):
I was trying so hard to not be wog. I
was trying so hard and pretending to not accept my heritage,
and I looked down on it, and I was like
ashamed of being European and the.
Speaker 1 (13:00):
Because it was it was cool to have a roll.
Speaker 3 (13:05):
At my score, you go to the canteen and buy
a sandwich kind of thing, brock up with a gourmet
lunch box. No, like that was embarrassing kind of thing.
But I remember that's why I went through that phase.
I don't know if you've seen photos where I had
like blonde hair and it was you know, I would
throw out a lot of orange because my hairs were
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dark originally. But I tried so hard to be blonde
and have fair skin. And I remember when we would
go to the beach with my girlfriends and they were
all Australians and gorgeous figures and you know, you know,
stunning looking girls and the fair blue eyes. I would
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hide from the sun so they would be sun baking
and I would be like having their towels wrap them
on me and hide from the sun.
Speaker 2 (13:54):
So I had such dark skin and I hated.
Speaker 1 (13:58):
All the time.
Speaker 2 (13:59):
And when I go out in the sun, I'm not
kidding you, I go ten shades darker within five.
Speaker 1 (14:03):
I wish that was my skin, doll.
Speaker 2 (14:05):
I was so ashamed of it.
Speaker 3 (14:06):
And even though it's so crazy because two of my siblings,
me being a baby of five, two of them are
fair and lighter skin and fair features. My sister has
to get fake tans and she's like, I always wish
I had your coloring, and I would hate that and
I would always look down on it and hide from
who I really was.
Speaker 2 (14:27):
So yeah, it was really.
Speaker 3 (14:29):
Tough going to that type of school. And then I
think obviously that boys played in the back of my mind,
and it wasn't until I was going to UNI and
I was like identifying more of what I wanted to
do and who I wanted to be and playing soccer.
While I was in high school, I played soccer with You.
Speaker 1 (14:47):
Actually mentioned this last week, and I'm like, I didn't
really played soccer.
Speaker 3 (14:50):
Yeah, all throughout high school and then in my twenties
and then it was I don't even know when I
ended soccer.
Speaker 2 (14:58):
I think when I moved to America.
Speaker 1 (15:00):
A bit of a tomboys.
Speaker 3 (15:01):
I was a tomboy, But it wasn't until like me
playing soccer in high school with all different different high schools.
So like Survey College was the wog school, and I
always wanted to go there, but my mom never would
allow me to go there, and so I was like,
I want to go there so badly because I feel
like I fit in. But I was super close to
those girls from that school because they were like the
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Croatians and Macedonians.
Speaker 1 (15:25):
So that was my school, Like we had all of
that that and it was love. It was so cool. Yeah,
Like but I know that when my mom says to me,
she got bullied in school for being wog, Like people
would throw rocks at them because they were wogs. So
it actually is a thing.
Speaker 2 (15:39):
It's a thing. It is.
Speaker 3 (15:40):
And it wasn't until again going to UNI and growing
in my own skin and just like.
Speaker 2 (15:46):
Being exposed to more things in life.
Speaker 3 (15:49):
And I think this is when the Kardashians were coming
about keeping up the Kardashians. I was obsessed with watching
the reality show and a few other reality shows based
in the US.
Speaker 1 (15:58):
They kind of like made an impact on even my
generation because once they came out, it was cool to
be what. It was cool to be.
Speaker 3 (16:07):
Its more accepting, and they made it knowing that it's
okay to be different.
Speaker 2 (16:11):
And I think I resonated so.
Speaker 1 (16:13):
Well because you found yourself, like you found who you
were when the world started showing you what was like,
what was accepted totally because you didn't feel accepted as yes.
Speaker 3 (16:25):
And they, honestly, as a family, helped me become even
more comfortable with what God made me, like my looks,
with my heritage, with my family dynamic. Oh they made
me realize, oh my gosh, like people only could dream
of having such a big, loud, crazy family like you have.
Speaker 2 (16:45):
And I was a bit ashamed by that.
Speaker 3 (16:47):
And also bringing someone into my crazy dynamic of a
big family. Will my partner accept it? Will they get
Will they get turned off by it? Will they think
it's too much, We're overbearing, overpower and they will run away?
So that was always also the back of my mind.
But you know, they were the pinnacle for everything. From
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a business point of view, they are you know, so
many people ship on the Kardashians, but I look up
to them as like they have built a multi billion
empire based around marketing.
Speaker 1 (17:21):
They have marketed themselves.
Speaker 3 (17:23):
They nailed the whole industry of new age media, PR
and marketing. And the way I see is I look
up to that because you know, they have nailed nailed it,
and everyone really tries to be like them essentially. So yeah,
and also I think they were so confident in their skin,
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in how they looked their their curves and their family value.
Speaker 2 (17:52):
So I really, yeah, I really.
Speaker 1 (17:53):
Looked up to you just saw yourself and your family
in them, you know.
Speaker 2 (17:57):
You know what's so crazy.
Speaker 3 (17:58):
When I was living in LA and studying there in
twenty fifteen, my mom and dad came over to LA
to see me and that kind of thing, and I
was working for a PR firm and Mom and I
went to Kendall and Kylie's pop up at top Shop at.
Speaker 1 (18:14):
The Grove because it was such a big Even when
I went to New York, we went to Dash Yeah,
and I got my sister close.
Speaker 2 (18:21):
It was so crazy.
Speaker 3 (18:22):
The line was hectic, and I remember Mom and I
were walking down the line. I was like, how do
we get in? I don't want to line up? And
people were like, oh.
Speaker 2 (18:30):
My god, that's Christian.
Speaker 1 (18:31):
I was like, oh, Dad.
Speaker 2 (18:35):
This was back in twenty fifteen.
Speaker 1 (18:38):
This is why we got photos. I know, photo evidence, Yeah,
photo evidence.
Speaker 2 (18:44):
I don't even know if I've got photo evidence.
Speaker 3 (18:46):
But my mom has always kind of like looked like her,
which has been such a big thing on the show
and the family dynamic, and also a lot of backlash
and comments being made about my mother looking like the
Australian Christiana. That's a whole different kettle of fish. But yeah,
it's what I remember. When I was in la as Well,
I did all my research because I was like, I
want to be mentored by Chris Jenner because I look
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up to her so much.
Speaker 1 (19:11):
That would be crazy.
Speaker 2 (19:12):
I was literally Jacob.
Speaker 3 (19:13):
I was like, I knew where the Jender Communications studio
was in Calabata.
Speaker 1 (19:18):
Get me in there. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (19:19):
I was like, I need to set up an interview
or a meeting. I was emailing them. I didn't ever
hear back from them. But that's okay, that's okay.
Speaker 3 (19:28):
Look I have I've learned to not give up and
be persistent. You were going to get your email as
many different companies as possible. I remember I was emailing
all these other companies. I I need to clear my
throat I'm so flammy. But holy shit, guys, I'm not
(19:49):
even kidding you. Our producers just handed me their phone
and they've got Chris Jenner's number.
Speaker 1 (19:54):
I'm scared. Imagine if your answers, I'm gonna call it.
Speaker 3 (19:58):
I'm just going to wing it. I mean in La.
What time is there right now? Seven pm?
Speaker 1 (20:02):
Seven?
Speaker 2 (20:03):
I don't know seven, but should.
Speaker 1 (20:06):
We just give it a go? Let's go.
Speaker 2 (20:07):
Oh my god, I need to put it on speaker.
Speaker 3 (20:09):
I'm shaking. I'm shaking FaceTime audio. Is there WiFi in here?
Speaker 1 (20:17):
Oh my god, my god, it's ringing, Chris Jenna. I'm
not kidding it.
Speaker 3 (20:22):
Look Chris Jenna, Come on, Crais, answer the phone.
Speaker 2 (20:27):
It's your fifth daughter a calling. Come ons up her
phone and call her again.
Speaker 1 (20:38):
If she doesn't, will times.
Speaker 3 (20:42):
Come on, Crais, you're probably at Cyprianis or no Boo
malibuu for dinner.
Speaker 2 (20:48):
Call unavailable. We're going again.
Speaker 1 (20:51):
Ring?
Speaker 2 (20:52):
Oh wait wait what my heart is racing?
Speaker 1 (20:59):
I'm so ner.
Speaker 3 (21:02):
Come on, come on, Chris, come on.
Speaker 2 (21:05):
Chris, it's up.
Speaker 1 (21:12):
Let's leave a voice now.
Speaker 2 (21:15):
So we're making Hi, Chris. My name is Karina Mora BLI.
Speaker 3 (21:20):
I just came off the back of a reality show
show called Married at First Sight in Australia. I'm currently
filming my first ever podcast and I.
Speaker 2 (21:29):
Just wanted to ask you a question.
Speaker 3 (21:30):
I really look up to you and your family dynamic,
and I just wanted to ask you a question about.
Speaker 2 (21:37):
A few things. Okay, well, if you can.
Speaker 3 (21:40):
Give me a callback, no pressure, Just a fan from Australia. Also,
when I was living in La many many years ago,
I tried to get an internship at Gender Communications, but I.
Speaker 2 (21:50):
Never heard back from your team. I love you and
I'm a big fan. Bye.
Speaker 1 (21:57):
That was so good you wigging out this is your
friend's daughter. I'm dead?
Speaker 3 (22:08):
Did I just say that in the voice?
Speaker 2 (22:13):
I really want to know? To answer?
Speaker 3 (22:16):
Do we just call my mom who's the Christian in
Australian to point and just ask my mom for some
life advice?
Speaker 2 (22:25):
Should I call her again?
Speaker 1 (22:26):
Maybe we shouldn't harass her like this.
Speaker 3 (22:31):
Now. I was obsessed so quick and then they just
run away. Look, I know, I was just fan girling
really hard here as well. Crazy how our producers have
her phone number. But honestly, it wasn't not only my
mother but christ Jenna who learnt me? Who it wasn't
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only just my mother, but also christ Jenna who taught
me to love myself. And honestly, I look up to
her family dynamic and coming from business point of view,
and how she's built such an incredible empire.
Speaker 1 (23:06):
It's really inspiring. I mean, she like from an outside
and I do watch keeping up with the Kardashians, but
she's definitely got all of her daughters on the right
path and they've all got successful businesses, like Kylie's a billionaire.
I mean, I don't know what the whole billionaire millionaire
situation is, but they're all really successful and we all
(23:27):
aspire to be successful, you know.
Speaker 2 (23:30):
I think just her core values of.
Speaker 1 (23:34):
Never family and you know, you know what I love
the most when they go to dinners and they're all together, Yeah,
and they share that beautiful vibe in the room and
they're all full of love. At the end of the day,
no matter what happens, they all come together and they're
full of love.
Speaker 3 (23:48):
And I feel like that's I feel like I can
resonate personally from a family dynamic where my family's so
similar and just very like minded in so many ways.
And also, yeah, I don't know, I just really look
up to her, So shut up.
Speaker 2 (24:09):
Hello Crane speaking Hello, Chris, Chris?
Speaker 1 (24:21):
Is she answering? Is she talking hello?
Speaker 2 (24:26):
Yeah? She's I mean I'm in Sydney, Australia right now.
Speaker 3 (24:33):
Oh?
Speaker 2 (24:33):
They hung up? Was that too much? Wait? She didn't
say anything?
Speaker 1 (24:41):
Did she say anything?
Speaker 2 (24:43):
She didn't say anything. I know she would speak.
Speaker 1 (24:50):
Is it that's not connected? Right? Is the bad internet?
Speaker 2 (24:55):
He no, it was echoing. I don't know. She was
I too much? You're like, Chris, Chris, I know brings back?
Speaker 1 (25:14):
What should we call her? Maybe? Call her back? Yeah?
Speaker 3 (25:17):
Is this like stage five Clinger? You know when you're
trying to date a guy and you've only known him
for a few weeks and then you constantly call you
constantly call.
Speaker 1 (25:26):
Hey, Chris, it's Kreeena from meredithas.
Speaker 2 (25:33):
We've called. Come on? Am I too excited?
Speaker 1 (25:49):
She called us back? But was I too keen?
Speaker 2 (25:53):
Chris?
Speaker 3 (25:54):
If you see this, Chris, if you see this on
social media, I do apologize for being over the top,
but I'm such a big fan. And if you want
to get on the next podcast, let me know if
you want to call me and we can have a chat.
Speaker 2 (26:10):
I really look up to you.
Speaker 1 (26:11):
Your fifth daughter.
Speaker 2 (26:12):
Here, your fifth daughter, I'm your Australian daughter. Okay, Jacob,
we need it. And these that a Maron is really
pulling out.
Speaker 1 (26:20):
All right, chaotic energy.
Speaker 2 (26:24):
I think I need some more lollies from last week.
Speaker 1 (26:27):
I want to love hot ones. I feel like we
need to love hot ones to bring in the love,
to bring in the love.
Speaker 2 (26:32):
We need the love Heart lolly because guys there, I
need you.
Speaker 1 (26:37):
Feel the love in the air right now.
Speaker 2 (26:39):
I feel the love.
Speaker 3 (26:39):
Yeah, We've got the love can can and then the
Valley Love lollies. You know what's so crazy because I'm
Pear Messing and I love sweets, and so I will
indulge in sweets. But these Valley snacks are super foods,
their guts and they're Australian with five health star ratings.
(27:02):
So I'm like, I'm going to give my body all
this goodness because I'm craving sweet. So let's eat that.
Speaker 2 (27:08):
Let's see the lover.
Speaker 1 (27:11):
I love the love Heart lolies. It makes me feel
so lovely, dove.
Speaker 2 (27:14):
Maybe we can manifest. You know, I'm still shaking from christ.
Speaker 1 (27:20):
I wait past one.
Speaker 2 (27:24):
I'm throwing left handed.
Speaker 1 (27:26):
Don't throw it, you're throwing love. Okay, cool. Well, this
is the lollly cheers to
Speaker 2 (27:34):
Choose to love
Eh, that's really disgusting. Why do you make that sound?
Speaker 2 (00:04):
Sorry, I'm just clear my throat. It's been a long
few days.
Speaker 1 (00:08):
It's been a really big weekend.
Speaker 3 (00:21):
Welcome to episode two of This Is Chaos. Everyone has
tuned in and made such lovely comments.
Speaker 2 (00:28):
Yes, I think we've had really good feedback.
Speaker 1 (00:30):
Yeah, I've had one so many dams seeing like how
amazing and how much people have loved listening to the
first episode, and we're like, yeah, this is a good start.
We're onto a good start.
Speaker 2 (00:42):
We're also still recovering from the weekend.
Speaker 1 (00:44):
What are weekend we went out for? Obviously your birthday
thirty two? How does it feel to thirty two?
Speaker 2 (00:51):
I don't know whether to cry happy because I'm like,
I feel like I'm just hitting my peak right now.
Speaker 1 (01:00):
That's good. It feels like a bit more like but
I growing up, yeah.
Speaker 2 (01:04):
And maturing.
Speaker 3 (01:05):
But then looking back, I think my mom had me
and I was the last one, but she already had
four kids before me at this age, I think she
had met anyway. And then my sister has got four kids,
and I think by the age of thirty two she
already had three.
Speaker 1 (01:22):
So I'm like, like, give me the kids. I need
kids in my stomach right now. I say that because
we had a really big night on Saturday.
Speaker 2 (01:31):
It was wild. I can't believe. I think I'm still recovering.
Speaker 1 (01:35):
I feel like I'm good, I'm okay. I'm on a
bit of a high today. I don't know, I feel
a bit. I don't know if it's a bit weird
for me. Last week I was a bit.
Speaker 2 (01:42):
You've got my energy, ye.
Speaker 3 (01:47):
I'm you know, I'm going to get quite open right now.
I'm about to get my period and I'm here messing.
Speaker 1 (01:54):
We've got a white couch.
Speaker 3 (01:55):
I know, I know, but I'm preparing. It's okay, but
I and PM messing hard. And you know what's so crazy.
When we were in the experiment and filming, we would
talk openly about this to the producers and the camera
crew and the audio. When they would come into the apartment,
you just felt the energy was well. I did, because
(02:15):
when I was P messing or I had my period,
I was like a different person on set and I
would tell them and be like, so sorry.
Speaker 2 (02:22):
This is what I'm going through, this is how I feel.
Speaker 3 (02:24):
I'm agitated, I'm frustrated, I'm short tempered and I'm hungry.
Speaker 1 (02:30):
I wish I could feel pod feel.
Speaker 2 (02:32):
It's the worst feeling.
Speaker 3 (02:33):
Honestly, you guys are so lucky because women they still
have to go to work, they still have to and
their attitude and they're just like I'm short tempered, and
I'm like, I don't move on, like cut the bullshit.
Speaker 2 (02:47):
I'm over it.
Speaker 3 (02:48):
I just don't want I just want to lay in
bed and eat and and you.
Speaker 2 (02:53):
Know what's so crazy.
Speaker 3 (02:54):
While we're filming the experiment, all the girls, even our
producers and the rest of us cast.
Speaker 2 (03:00):
Members, we're kind of all in sync. How weird?
Speaker 1 (03:02):
You guys all had your period at the same time.
Speaker 2 (03:04):
Yeah, along the same duration.
Speaker 1 (03:06):
It's crazy with you. I don't know how handle crazy
how that happened.
Speaker 3 (03:10):
But anyway, talking about that, I feel a little bit
right now.
Speaker 1 (03:14):
That's okay, that's all right. We're here, We're here, we're here.
Ready we part episode two.
Speaker 2 (03:19):
We partied a lot on the weekend.
Speaker 1 (03:22):
We went out to a beautiful dinner, saying one of
my favorite places. And then I wasn't actually going to drink,
but then you were like, come on, like have a
few drinks my bed.
Speaker 3 (03:31):
I was surprise me for dinner. Beautiful Asian fusion restaurants.
Let's turn up, let's continue these. What do we get,
the spicy margaritas.
Speaker 1 (03:39):
The Tommy, Oh, the Tommy, Yeah, chili Tommy.
Speaker 2 (03:43):
And then we ended up.
Speaker 3 (03:44):
At Tanooki and then the rest of the night, just
six am the.
Speaker 1 (03:48):
Next I haven't partied like that since I was eighteen.
That was crazy.
Speaker 3 (03:52):
I mean, I'm thirty two and I still did it.
But it's showing because it's taking me almost half a
week or three days to get I've slept so much,
and same with you. Yesterday we were in our fields.
Speaker 1 (04:07):
So while at the restaurant, let's give a bit of
a backstory. While in the restaurant, we saw couples and
we were like, I was like, I just we were
just I just feel lonely. I just feel lonely. The
people thought, yeah, a couple, and then beautiful girls next
to us were like, Hi Crean, Hi Jacob or hi nice.
Speaker 2 (04:23):
We loved it. We were we were like, we gave
him the math slow down. Anyway. We were very single.
Speaker 1 (04:30):
Yeah single, So we.
Speaker 3 (04:34):
My birthday in my fields. Jacob also in his fields,
trying to figure out his situation and what's.
Speaker 1 (04:40):
Going I mean, I'm very single. But we went to
a beautiful crystal shop and I was like, Crener, let's
get some like incense going, let's get the love in
the room. Like maybe if we do this, things will
come our way. Right.
Speaker 2 (04:54):
Well, in Bondai.
Speaker 3 (04:55):
Junction, within one crystal store, they didn't have the taro car.
Speaker 2 (04:58):
So then Jacob was like, we're on a mission.
Speaker 3 (05:01):
I need to find these tarot cards and we went
very far. Still in Bondi Junction, we found another store
and it was it was inviting. The lady was talking
about how it's like the new moon.
Speaker 1 (05:15):
Yeah, it is the new Moon.
Speaker 3 (05:16):
Yeah, And I was like, I've just moved into my
brand new apartment. I need to sage it, get rid
of all the negative energy. She even said to me,
She's like, okay, start at the front of the door.
And what you have to do is like even when
you get your uber eats, you just don't know where
the energy is kind of thing. So she was like,
make sure you walk around the whole house and have
the doors open. So what are we doing right now?
Speaker 2 (05:38):
What did she buy?
Speaker 1 (05:39):
I'm going to bring some love into the pod today. Yeah, okay,
for anyone listening, we're going.
Speaker 2 (05:45):
To some love.
Speaker 1 (05:49):
We're going. So this is a love stick, and he's
supposed to bring love to us.
Speaker 3 (05:54):
It says, create moments of connection and intimme sty and
enjoy your time together even more.
Speaker 2 (05:59):
Is that between you and me?
Speaker 1 (06:00):
Or no? No, I mean it's it's for someone to come
to us dogs.
Speaker 2 (06:04):
I like it. Wow, made with love?
Speaker 1 (06:07):
Yes, I feel like we need to do a little
bit of a taro spread just because I don't know
what's going on in my love life and you don't
know either. So let's feel a bit of a spread and.
Speaker 3 (06:18):
See, well, my future husband come towards me the next
couple of months.
Speaker 1 (06:22):
Let's do it. Let's find out. So right now, I'm
going to call upon my spirit guides. I'm going to
call upon my spirit guides to give me an accurate
reading on Karna and her love life and see what's ahead.
Are you ready?
Speaker 2 (06:36):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (06:36):
Please, King, there's some swords there. Has someone hurt you?
Speaker 2 (06:40):
Do good thing about it?
Speaker 1 (06:43):
So, he says, you feel stuck like you're waiting on
someone or something to change again, but it's not moving
fast enough. You may be second guessing yourself, overthinking, or
feeling like your love life is going in circles your questioning,
was it worth it? Okay, there's likely someone around you
who is very slow moving, someone careful, logical, and maybe
(07:05):
emotionally reserved. This person is there's no one around you.
This is weird, and maybe someone's coming. Is someone coming?
Someone's coming? Yeah, the next.
Speaker 2 (07:15):
Couple of months, please come my way. Send me a
DM all.
Speaker 3 (07:18):
I want, send me a message European man with the
same morals and values and is hard working, A bit
older than me, I mean, thirty seven years up is good.
Speaker 2 (07:31):
But honestly, if that's you, DM me, and I'm for real,
I want to go on a date. Maybe we should
make this a thing.
Speaker 3 (07:37):
Maybe we should go on day date once a week
and then we digest it on our podcast about it.
Speaker 1 (07:42):
Oh, I can't even get one day.
Speaker 3 (07:43):
I want serious applicants like I don't want I don't
want any of the fluff.
Speaker 2 (07:48):
I don't want jokesters. I'm serious about this.
Speaker 1 (07:51):
It basically says your love life is in a transitional space.
You're moving, You're emotionally invested but beginning to feel the
weight of way and not knowing. You're surrounded by slow, emotional,
unavailable energy, but in your heart you want to move
forward with confidence, clarity, and celebration. Oh that's so accurate,
because so it says, take your blindfold off, stop waiting
(08:13):
for someone else to decide, choose growth, be clear about
what you want and you won't set and what you
won't settle for. That's that's pretty deep.
Speaker 2 (08:19):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (08:20):
I mean, I've been meeting so many people while I've
been doing you know, the appearances and going out and
that kind of thing. Obviously now living in a different city,
but I feel like the Sydney men are trash like there,
and from the stories that I've been hearing about dating here,
apparently like there's every one male, there's like three to
(08:43):
five women here in Sydney.
Speaker 2 (08:45):
So I'm I'm doomed. I'm honestly doomed.
Speaker 3 (08:51):
If that's the case, I might as well go back
to Perth and start dating again there. I feel like
Sydney men are so emotionally unavailable, or they're dating see
multiple women, or they're coming out like.
Speaker 1 (09:02):
That's just everyone though, like that's that's every person.
Speaker 3 (09:06):
I mean in Perth, the dating culture, I think they're
just a little bit more laid back in children. They
want like longevity and they want that family dynamic that's
what Perth is quite renowned for, and a beautiful family upbringing.
Everyone settles there a lot more earlier than here on
the East Coast. That's something I've noticed. I don't know
(09:26):
whether it's because it's such a big city and people
are coming and going, I don't know, I don't know,
but from what I hear, the dating pool is next
to none here, and you know, it's all short term,
fulfilled men and then onto the next And that freaks
me out to the point where I'm like, you know, what,
(09:47):
I meet people, it's you know, there's a difference between
meeting people and instantly having a connection with someone.
Speaker 2 (09:53):
You can meet.
Speaker 3 (09:54):
Multiple people every day, but whether you have a deep
connection or like an instant connection, that's a whole different ballgame.
Speaker 2 (10:00):
That's a whole different Kellor Fish.
Speaker 3 (10:02):
So yeah, I'm shutting myself off right now because I'm like,
I am still probably healing from what I went through
in the experiment, and then also on top of that
my past relationship where I thought I was going.
Speaker 1 (10:14):
To and everything. Yeah, it's just kind of like, yeah.
Speaker 2 (10:16):
But I'm like, come on, bring it to me, bring
the person to me.
Speaker 1 (10:22):
I'm actually a bit concerned about my reading.
Speaker 2 (10:24):
Why have you done yours?
Speaker 1 (10:26):
Yeah, I just did mine. It says that my next partner,
well I've never had a partner, but my next partner
is with someone else at the moment. Yeah, that's a weird. Wait,
I don't know.
Speaker 2 (10:39):
We kind of luky know this. I got a baby,
gotta be patient.
Speaker 3 (10:43):
I mean, I have a question for you though, if
you got poached to go on Mass like I was
poached on Instagram and was asked for audition.
Speaker 2 (10:52):
If you were poached, would you go on the show?
Speaker 1 (10:56):
I've had thoughts about it. But then again, like I
just don't know if if I could deal with the
hate and the backlash and the media. Yeah, because that's
it's pretty heavy stuff and I don't know if I
can handle that. I thought I did have thick skin,
but after fashion week, after fashion week, I was like,
I don't and I don't think I can. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (11:14):
Look, I didn't even consider the thick skin point of view.
When I was going through all the different auditions and
signing the contract to then go on the show, I
was just like more in the head space, Oh my god,
I'm going to be matched with someone and this could
be my forever person.
Speaker 2 (11:30):
And that's great.
Speaker 3 (11:31):
I just saw like the fairy tale side of what
a show could be about. But I don't know, I
think over you know, I'm thirty two now, so I
have lived in my twenties and I've lived such a blessed,
grateful life where I have taken every opportunity that comes
my way. But I've also learned to be who I
am today, and it hasn't been easy. I remember when
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I was younger and in high school, I went to
the most surfy Australian demographics school you could think of,
so gra Heart Catholic College, and it was right across
the road from the beach, and I was the minority.
I was like the pretty much one of the biggest
wogs at that school. And the only reason why I
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went there was because my mom went to that high
school and that all my other siblings went to that
high school. But I found it really hard to accept
my heritage and to accept being European when all I
saw around me were Australians.
Speaker 1 (12:29):
And you know it, really that's really interesting because at
my school it was like predominantly wogs, Like there was Croatians.
You've got your Greeks Italians, like, we didn't have many
Aussies there, so that's weird. So what was your experience.
Speaker 2 (12:44):
It was tough.
Speaker 3 (12:45):
I was trying so hard to not be wog. I
was trying so hard and pretending to not accept my heritage,
and I looked down on it, and I was like
ashamed of being European and the.
Speaker 1 (13:00):
Because it was it was cool to have a roll.
Speaker 3 (13:05):
At my score, you go to the canteen and buy
a sandwich kind of thing, brock up with a gourmet
lunch box. No, like that was embarrassing kind of thing.
But I remember that's why I went through that phase.
I don't know if you've seen photos where I had
like blonde hair and it was you know, I would
throw out a lot of orange because my hairs were
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dark originally. But I tried so hard to be blonde
and have fair skin. And I remember when we would
go to the beach with my girlfriends and they were
all Australians and gorgeous figures and you know, you know,
stunning looking girls and the fair blue eyes. I would
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hide from the sun so they would be sun baking
and I would be like having their towels wrap them
on me and hide from the sun.
Speaker 2 (13:54):
So I had such dark skin and I hated.
Speaker 1 (13:58):
All the time.
Speaker 2 (13:59):
And when I go out in the sun, I'm not
kidding you, I go ten shades darker within five.
Speaker 1 (14:03):
I wish that was my skin, doll.
Speaker 2 (14:05):
I was so ashamed of it.
Speaker 3 (14:06):
And even though it's so crazy because two of my siblings,
me being a baby of five, two of them are
fair and lighter skin and fair features. My sister has
to get fake tans and she's like, I always wish
I had your coloring, and I would hate that and
I would always look down on it and hide from
who I really was.
Speaker 2 (14:27):
So yeah, it was really.
Speaker 3 (14:29):
Tough going to that type of school. And then I
think obviously that boys played in the back of my mind,
and it wasn't until I was going to UNI and
I was like identifying more of what I wanted to
do and who I wanted to be and playing soccer.
While I was in high school, I played soccer with You.
Speaker 1 (14:47):
Actually mentioned this last week, and I'm like, I didn't
really played soccer.
Speaker 3 (14:50):
Yeah, all throughout high school and then in my twenties
and then it was I don't even know when I
ended soccer.
Speaker 2 (14:58):
I think when I moved to America.
Speaker 1 (15:00):
A bit of a tomboys.
Speaker 3 (15:01):
I was a tomboy, But it wasn't until like me
playing soccer in high school with all different different high schools.
So like Survey College was the wog school, and I
always wanted to go there, but my mom never would
allow me to go there, and so I was like,
I want to go there so badly because I feel
like I fit in. But I was super close to
those girls from that school because they were like the
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Croatians and Macedonians.
Speaker 1 (15:25):
So that was my school, Like we had all of
that that and it was love. It was so cool. Yeah,
Like but I know that when my mom says to me,
she got bullied in school for being wog, Like people
would throw rocks at them because they were wogs. So
it actually is a thing.
Speaker 2 (15:39):
It's a thing. It is.
Speaker 3 (15:40):
And it wasn't until again going to UNI and growing
in my own skin and just like.
Speaker 2 (15:46):
Being exposed to more things in life.
Speaker 3 (15:49):
And I think this is when the Kardashians were coming
about keeping up the Kardashians. I was obsessed with watching
the reality show and a few other reality shows based
in the US.
Speaker 1 (15:58):
They kind of like made an impact on even my
generation because once they came out, it was cool to
be what. It was cool to be.
Speaker 3 (16:07):
Its more accepting, and they made it knowing that it's
okay to be different.
Speaker 2 (16:11):
And I think I resonated so.
Speaker 1 (16:13):
Well because you found yourself, like you found who you
were when the world started showing you what was like,
what was accepted totally because you didn't feel accepted as yes.
Speaker 3 (16:25):
And they, honestly, as a family, helped me become even
more comfortable with what God made me, like my looks,
with my heritage, with my family dynamic. Oh they made
me realize, oh my gosh, like people only could dream
of having such a big, loud, crazy family like you have.
Speaker 2 (16:45):
And I was a bit ashamed by that.
Speaker 3 (16:47):
And also bringing someone into my crazy dynamic of a
big family. Will my partner accept it? Will they get
Will they get turned off by it? Will they think
it's too much, We're overbearing, overpower and they will run away?
So that was always also the back of my mind.
But you know, they were the pinnacle for everything. From
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a business point of view, they are you know, so
many people ship on the Kardashians, but I look up
to them as like they have built a multi billion
empire based around marketing.
Speaker 1 (17:21):
They have marketed themselves.
Speaker 3 (17:23):
They nailed the whole industry of new age media, PR
and marketing. And the way I see is I look
up to that because you know, they have nailed nailed it,
and everyone really tries to be like them essentially. So yeah,
and also I think they were so confident in their skin,
(17:46):
in how they looked their their curves and their family value.
Speaker 2 (17:52):
So I really, yeah, I really.
Speaker 1 (17:53):
Looked up to you just saw yourself and your family
in them, you know.
Speaker 2 (17:57):
You know what's so crazy.
Speaker 3 (17:58):
When I was living in LA and studying there in
twenty fifteen, my mom and dad came over to LA
to see me and that kind of thing, and I
was working for a PR firm and Mom and I
went to Kendall and Kylie's pop up at top Shop at.
Speaker 1 (18:14):
The Grove because it was such a big Even when
I went to New York, we went to Dash Yeah,
and I got my sister close.
Speaker 2 (18:21):
It was so crazy.
Speaker 3 (18:22):
The line was hectic, and I remember Mom and I
were walking down the line. I was like, how do
we get in? I don't want to line up? And
people were like, oh.
Speaker 2 (18:30):
My god, that's Christian.
Speaker 1 (18:31):
I was like, oh, Dad.
Speaker 2 (18:35):
This was back in twenty fifteen.
Speaker 1 (18:38):
This is why we got photos. I know, photo evidence, Yeah,
photo evidence.
Speaker 2 (18:44):
I don't even know if I've got photo evidence.
Speaker 3 (18:46):
But my mom has always kind of like looked like her,
which has been such a big thing on the show
and the family dynamic, and also a lot of backlash
and comments being made about my mother looking like the
Australian Christiana. That's a whole different kettle of fish. But yeah,
it's what I remember. When I was in la as Well,
I did all my research because I was like, I
want to be mentored by Chris Jenner because I look
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up to her so much.
Speaker 1 (19:11):
That would be crazy.
Speaker 2 (19:12):
I was literally Jacob.
Speaker 3 (19:13):
I was like, I knew where the Jender Communications studio
was in Calabata.
Speaker 1 (19:18):
Get me in there. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (19:19):
I was like, I need to set up an interview
or a meeting. I was emailing them. I didn't ever
hear back from them. But that's okay, that's okay.
Speaker 3 (19:28):
Look I have I've learned to not give up and
be persistent. You were going to get your email as
many different companies as possible. I remember I was emailing
all these other companies. I I need to clear my
throat I'm so flammy. But holy shit, guys, I'm not
(19:49):
even kidding you. Our producers just handed me their phone
and they've got Chris Jenner's number.
Speaker 1 (19:54):
I'm scared. Imagine if your answers, I'm gonna call it.
Speaker 3 (19:58):
I'm just going to wing it. I mean in La.
What time is there right now? Seven pm?
Speaker 1 (20:02):
Seven?
Speaker 2 (20:03):
I don't know seven, but should.
Speaker 1 (20:06):
We just give it a go? Let's go.
Speaker 2 (20:07):
Oh my god, I need to put it on speaker.
Speaker 3 (20:09):
I'm shaking. I'm shaking FaceTime audio. Is there WiFi in here?
Speaker 1 (20:17):
Oh my god, my god, it's ringing, Chris Jenna. I'm
not kidding it.
Speaker 3 (20:22):
Look Chris Jenna, Come on, Crais, answer the phone.
Speaker 2 (20:27):
It's your fifth daughter a calling. Come ons up her
phone and call her again.
Speaker 1 (20:38):
If she doesn't, will times.
Speaker 3 (20:42):
Come on, Crais, you're probably at Cyprianis or no Boo
malibuu for dinner.
Speaker 2 (20:48):
Call unavailable. We're going again.
Speaker 1 (20:51):
Ring?
Speaker 2 (20:52):
Oh wait wait what my heart is racing?
Speaker 1 (20:59):
I'm so ner.
Speaker 3 (21:02):
Come on, come on, Chris, come on.
Speaker 2 (21:05):
Chris, it's up.
Speaker 1 (21:12):
Let's leave a voice now.
Speaker 2 (21:15):
So we're making Hi, Chris. My name is Karina Mora BLI.
Speaker 3 (21:20):
I just came off the back of a reality show
show called Married at First Sight in Australia. I'm currently
filming my first ever podcast and I.
Speaker 2 (21:29):
Just wanted to ask you a question.
Speaker 3 (21:30):
I really look up to you and your family dynamic,
and I just wanted to ask you a question about.
Speaker 2 (21:37):
A few things. Okay, well, if you can.
Speaker 3 (21:40):
Give me a callback, no pressure, Just a fan from Australia. Also,
when I was living in La many many years ago,
I tried to get an internship at Gender Communications, but I.
Speaker 2 (21:50):
Never heard back from your team. I love you and
I'm a big fan. Bye.
Speaker 1 (21:57):
That was so good you wigging out this is your
friend's daughter. I'm dead?
Speaker 3 (22:08):
Did I just say that in the voice?
Speaker 2 (22:13):
I really want to know? To answer?
Speaker 3 (22:16):
Do we just call my mom who's the Christian in
Australian to point and just ask my mom for some
life advice?
Speaker 2 (22:25):
Should I call her again?
Speaker 1 (22:26):
Maybe we shouldn't harass her like this.
Speaker 3 (22:31):
Now. I was obsessed so quick and then they just
run away. Look, I know, I was just fan girling
really hard here as well. Crazy how our producers have
her phone number. But honestly, it wasn't not only my
mother but christ Jenna who learnt me? Who it wasn't
(22:51):
only just my mother, but also christ Jenna who taught
me to love myself. And honestly, I look up to
her family dynamic and coming from business point of view,
and how she's built such an incredible empire.
Speaker 1 (23:06):
It's really inspiring. I mean, she like from an outside
and I do watch keeping up with the Kardashians, but
she's definitely got all of her daughters on the right
path and they've all got successful businesses, like Kylie's a billionaire.
I mean, I don't know what the whole billionaire millionaire
situation is, but they're all really successful and we all
(23:27):
aspire to be successful, you know.
Speaker 2 (23:30):
I think just her core values of.
Speaker 1 (23:34):
Never family and you know, you know what I love
the most when they go to dinners and they're all together, Yeah,
and they share that beautiful vibe in the room and
they're all full of love. At the end of the day,
no matter what happens, they all come together and they're
full of love.
Speaker 3 (23:48):
And I feel like that's I feel like I can
resonate personally from a family dynamic where my family's so
similar and just very like minded in so many ways.
And also, yeah, I don't know, I just really look
up to her, So shut up.
Speaker 2 (24:09):
Hello Crane speaking Hello, Chris, Chris?
Speaker 1 (24:21):
Is she answering? Is she talking hello?
Speaker 2 (24:26):
Yeah? She's I mean I'm in Sydney, Australia right now.
Speaker 3 (24:33):
Oh?
Speaker 2 (24:33):
They hung up? Was that too much? Wait? She didn't
say anything?
Speaker 1 (24:41):
Did she say anything?
Speaker 2 (24:43):
She didn't say anything. I know she would speak.
Speaker 1 (24:50):
Is it that's not connected? Right? Is the bad internet?
Speaker 2 (24:55):
He no, it was echoing. I don't know. She was
I too much? You're like, Chris, Chris, I know brings back?
Speaker 1 (25:14):
What should we call her? Maybe? Call her back? Yeah?
Speaker 3 (25:17):
Is this like stage five Clinger? You know when you're
trying to date a guy and you've only known him
for a few weeks and then you constantly call you
constantly call.
Speaker 1 (25:26):
Hey, Chris, it's Kreeena from meredithas.
Speaker 2 (25:33):
We've called. Come on? Am I too excited?
Speaker 1 (25:49):
She called us back? But was I too keen?
Speaker 2 (25:53):
Chris?
Speaker 3 (25:54):
If you see this, Chris, if you see this on
social media, I do apologize for being over the top,
but I'm such a big fan. And if you want
to get on the next podcast, let me know if
you want to call me and we can have a chat.
Speaker 2 (26:10):
I really look up to you.
Speaker 1 (26:11):
Your fifth daughter.
Speaker 2 (26:12):
Here, your fifth daughter, I'm your Australian daughter. Okay, Jacob,
we need it. And these that a Maron is really
pulling out.
Speaker 1 (26:20):
All right, chaotic energy.
Speaker 2 (26:24):
I think I need some more lollies from last week.
Speaker 1 (26:27):
I want to love hot ones. I feel like we
need to love hot ones to bring in the love,
to bring in the love.
Speaker 2 (26:32):
We need the love Heart lolly because guys there, I
need you.
Speaker 1 (26:37):
Feel the love in the air right now.
Speaker 2 (26:39):
I feel the love.
Speaker 3 (26:39):
Yeah, We've got the love can can and then the
Valley Love lollies. You know what's so crazy because I'm
Pear Messing and I love sweets, and so I will
indulge in sweets. But these Valley snacks are super foods,
their guts and they're Australian with five health star ratings.
(27:02):
So I'm like, I'm going to give my body all
this goodness because I'm craving sweet. So let's eat that.
Speaker 2 (27:08):
Let's see the lover.
Speaker 1 (27:11):
I love the love Heart lolies. It makes me feel
so lovely, dove.
Speaker 2 (27:14):
Maybe we can manifest. You know, I'm still shaking from christ.
Speaker 1 (27:20):
I wait past one.
Speaker 2 (27:24):
I'm throwing left handed.
Speaker 1 (27:26):
Don't throw it, you're throwing love. Okay, cool. Well, this
is the lollly cheers to
Speaker 2 (27:34):
Choose to love
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