August 17, 2025 • 23 mins
How many times a day should you pee? According to research, the average adult pees 6–8 times in 24 hours, but what if you’re hitting that before 10am? In this episode, host Phoebe Parsons sits down with Pelvic Health Physiotherapist from The Healthy Peach Physio Marmie Poiner explains what’s considered a healthy number of bathroom trips, the signs your bladder health needs attention, and how diet, hydration, and lifestyle can affect how often you urinate. From overactive bladder symptoms to common myths about holding in your pee, this conversation covers everything you need to know about urinary frequency and women’s pelvic health, with plenty of laughs along the way.
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Speaker 1 (00:05):
A pod jay production.
Speaker 2 (00:15):
Welcome to Unhinged. This is a podcast about the unfiltered,
unhinged and uncomfortably relatable shit that you only talk about
in your closest group chat. I'm Phoebe. Welcome to the
podcast Money point Out from the Healthy Page Visio. I
am so excited to chat to you today off the
(00:37):
back of a TikTok that I posted a couple of
weeks ago that went viral where I basically said that
I found out the average person piece between six to
eight times a day and I was horrified to find
that out because I pe six to eight times before
ten am, and that TikTok went absolutely viral. I cannot
(00:59):
wrap my head around the fact that I've just found
out that average person piece between six to eight times
a day. It is not even ten am yet and
I have peed eight times. Furthermore to that, I don't
remember the last time I slept through the night because
I've had to get up to go pete. Do I
need to seek medical attention or am I just a
(01:19):
hydrated queen? And I was shocked at how many thousands
of people were leaving comments like you've got diabetes, you
need to take medical attention. I probably should have given
more context about the fact that Number one, I do
get up at four point thirty in the morning, so
by the time it's ten am, I've already been up
the day last day. I also drink a lot of caffeine,
(01:41):
which I'm sure plays into it. But I really wanted
to get a female visio's perspective on this, because you
are the absolute expert.
Speaker 1 (01:49):
Thank you. Nice to be called an expert.
Speaker 3 (01:52):
Actually, but yes, we see this all the time in
the clinic, so it's a really common, like a really
common thing that people come in to see us for.
Speaker 2 (02:01):
Oh my god, So is it actually true that average
person does only p six eight times a day?
Speaker 3 (02:06):
Yes, so six to eight times would be like a
fairly like normal amount to pee on an average day.
But like, it kind of depends on lots of things.
But I would say the average person, yep, six to
eight times would be really.
Speaker 1 (02:18):
Comfortable for them.
Speaker 2 (02:19):
Okay, So if I'm hitting that before ten am, should
I actually be listening to these TikTok trolls and seeking
medical attention.
Speaker 3 (02:27):
It's not necessarily that you need medical attention, but there
is like a ton of things that could be increasing.
How much you need to wei, and so I would
like the first thing I always ask everybody is like
how much fluid do you drink? Because input in like
input out, like you know, like there's got to be
a balance inside your body. I mean, if you're drinking
like a lot of fluid, then you're gonna have a
lot of fluid.
Speaker 1 (02:48):
Come out of you.
Speaker 2 (02:49):
Okay, that is really good to know, because firstly, I
did a podcast episode a couple of weeks ago that
was what I drink in a day essentially, and I
went through what I drink in a day. It's a
shit ton of liquid, Like I'm what was talking like
seven hundred milligrams of caffeine, I mean, like on top
of three leaders of water and like the fruit and
vegetables and all that kind of stuff. So I do
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drink a lot of water. But is there, like in
saying that, is there an actual number of times a
day that would be considered too much if you were
going to the toilet.
Speaker 3 (03:20):
Not medically speaking, I would say usually it would be
like a bothersome factor. So we'll have people come in
and they'll say, like, you know, I'm peeing twenty times
a day, And if that really bothers them, then we
can do something about that. But if you're peeing, you know,
eight times before ten o'clock and it like doesn't phase
you whatsoever, and there's no medical reason for you peeing
that much, then like there's no reason to change it.
(03:41):
So it's probably more bothersome factor wise as to whether
or not I would do anything about someone's like.
Speaker 1 (03:47):
Volume of peeing.
Speaker 3 (03:48):
But yeah, if you're not bothered by it, and pining
twenty times a day is just you jam, Like it
seems a bit disruptive, but I think that would be fun.
Speaker 2 (03:56):
I mean, I wouldn't call it my jam. And one
of the other things that I did cover was I
also wake up at least once a night to go
to the toilet, which I wouldn't say that's impacting my
quality of life. Like I'm not going to get that
dramatic when I say it, but I know that it
is probably problematic to be woken up from sleep to
go and use the toilet.
Speaker 3 (04:15):
I mean, yes, it definitely obviously does like disrupt your sleep,
but once a night would be also considered normal, So
I'd say that's in the realm of normal sort of
you being like I've just started waking up once a night,
And I don't know what's going on, but if your
norm is just that you always wake up once a night,
that's not really a big deal. More than once a
night definitely does start making me kind of go like, oh,
what could be happening? Like do you drink a liter
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of fluid before you get to bend or do you
have lots of swelling in your legs? Or is there
some reason why, like your output overnight is like too high,
So that definitely is I would say an output over
night is something that concerns me often more than output
during the day, especially if there's like no medical like
if there's something medical going on, like that might trigger
the nighttime avoiding to increase. But yeah, during the day,
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it's usually just input verst output.
Speaker 2 (05:00):
That is so interesting. And I know exactly why my
output is like that at nighttime because I'm like a
baby with a bot bot. I can't go to sleep
without having my little nighttime hot chocolate. It happens to
be twenty minutes before I hop into bed, so of
course it's got to come out somewhere.
Speaker 3 (05:14):
Yeah, So I mean your kidney slow down overnight, So
there's like a hormon your body producers, and everything slows
right down. But if you still just put like four
or five hundred miles of fluid into your body, like
your body still has to process that before you wake
up most likely, So even though everything slows down, you're
still probably drinking too much fluid before you go to bit.
Speaker 2 (05:33):
One hundred percent. And I know that, Like I know
that it was bothering me that much. What would I do?
I would stop drinking that hot chocolate before I went
to bed at night? Yeah exactly.
Speaker 3 (05:40):
Oh you drink it, like, you know, a few hours
before you go to bed instead.
Speaker 2 (05:44):
Yeah, exactly. Now I have heard before a common I
don't know if this is a myth or not, but
I know that for a lot of people when they
start embarking on let's just call it a hydration journey,
when they're trying to be a bit more healthy and
they're starting to drink a bit more water, I have
heard people say like, oh, I just can't do it
because I just need to go to the toilet so
much more often. But then people are like, no, just
(06:05):
push through. Your bladder will get used to it. Is
that something that's true, or is your body naturally supposed
to just expel that water.
Speaker 3 (06:13):
There is there is a tolerance that your bladder has
in terms of its filling capacity, and its tolerance can
change depending on how.
Speaker 1 (06:20):
Fast your bladder is filling.
Speaker 3 (06:22):
So if you're the kind of person that like chugs
your water instead of sipping it frequently through the day,
then your bladder has to fill at a quicker rate.
And the quicker rate that your bladder fills out means
that the stretch receptors in your bladder don't have as
much time to kind of slowly like accommodate and allow
for more fluid to fill. And so the bladder will
basically give you signals a lot quicker if it's having
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to fill a lot quicker. So the way I always
think about it is like you know when you get
like jelly snakes and you like stretch them really really slow,
and they like you can get them really long, but
if you stretch it really fast, it would just snap.
Speaker 1 (06:55):
So your bladder compliance is really similar to that.
Speaker 3 (06:57):
So if you can stretch it really slowly, you'll feel
a lot more in your bladder before you get the
same level of purge.
Speaker 2 (07:02):
Basically, I know that Noah Spink and see my face
right now, hate is dropping in my head because I'm
a chugger. Like, I'm a very efficient person. So when
I feel my stanley, I'll pretty much drink that one
point two liters of water so I can just know
I've had my water and I can move on with
my day. But then the result of that, obviously, what
you're saying is my bladder is a peak very quickly. Yeah,
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so there's no time for it to stretch, so it's
got to come straight back out.
Speaker 3 (07:27):
Yeah, that's the thing you said about coffee earlier, where
you were like, you know, is that irritating my bladder?
For some people, yes, like caffeine, spicy food sometimes like
Bubbly drinks, sugar free supplements and stuff like, all of
that stuff can be a bit irritating to the bladder.
But what I find is more irritating to the bladder
is how quickly you drink your fluid. So I'm also
a fast beverage drinker. So I get my coffee and
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it's like a big coffee. See how big my coffee is,
And I drink it very quickly, and then I of
course then have to pee a lot afterwards. But if
I drink my coffee really slowly, my tolerance would be
totally fine. So it's definitely like, you know, if you've
got a fun beverage and you drink that beverage really,
if I asked, you're going to have to pee.
Speaker 1 (08:06):
And all fluid is fluid.
Speaker 3 (08:08):
Like the only fluid that I don't consider a fluid
is alcohol because that one is dehydrating. But coffee is
still predominantly water, so it's not going to dehydrate you.
It's just floated water with caffeine in it.
Speaker 2 (08:20):
I'm so glad you said that, because my boyfriend makes
fun of me all the time for how quick I
drink my beverages, especially coffee. I even get my coffee
extra hot to try and slow me down. That's not
even enough. I'm just I cannot get it in burning mouth. Yeah,
I don't know what's wrong with me. So the most
common things that people told me was medically wrong with
(08:41):
me on TikTok, a very obviously legitimate source of information. Firstly,
a lot of people told me I had diabetes and
that was their symptom of diabetes. But I feel like,
you know, not to generalize, but I'm sure there'd be
like several other symptoms that come along with diabeting, most
definitely A lot of other people also told me that
I might have a very weak pelvic floor, and I
was like, girlfriends, I teach pilates, trust me my pelvic.
Speaker 1 (09:03):
Floor in a week?
Speaker 2 (09:05):
Is there something that I might be mixing up? Like
as a woman, I know that like we probably should
be doing kegel exercises, but like how often should we
really be doing them?
Speaker 3 (09:15):
This is like the great debate in the pelvic health world,
because not everybody actually does think that we should be
doing kegel exercises. So I think there's like a time
and a place and a person who should be doing
kegel exercises, and then everybody else has like a functioning
pervic floor that will just kind of like bump up
and down all day like and just turn itself on
and off like all the other muscles in your body,
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and we don't actually need to pay special attention to it.
So if you are the kind of person who has
maybe you did just have a baby, and maybe your
public flaw does actually have some weakness to it and
we do need to make it stronger, you're the target
person for doing keegels.
Speaker 1 (09:51):
If you're a person.
Speaker 3 (09:52):
Who has just like a normal functioning pervic floor, it
will be as strong as the rest of your body is,
and there's no need for us to like specifically focus
on that muscle necessarily. What I find is actually the opposite,
and most people are really overactive or their public floor
is actually a little bit too tight, or its range
of motion has decreased, so instead of it being able
to move through like the full kind of stretch and
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contraction range that it should have, it actually moves through
a really small range, and that becomes really problematic, and
that actually can make you feel like you have to
empty your blooder more frequently.
Speaker 2 (10:24):
Really, yes, So then how do you know if I mean,
I guess this is probably a hard thing to ask
without actually going and being assessed by a female physio,
But how do you know if you would have like
an underactive or overactive pelvic floor?
Speaker 1 (10:38):
I usually would say based on symptoms.
Speaker 3 (10:40):
So, like the biggest symptoms that you would have is
pain with penetration, so that might be like difficulty putting
your tampons in pain off doctor exams, pain with sex,
And then there would also be potentially in continents, which
I know sounds really random that if you're tired, that
you would also have in continents, but sometimes that can
contribute to leaking, so that would be urine leaking. And
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then pain, So whether or not you've got like a
history of some sort of like period pain condition, or
whether or not you're getting like weird hip pains, or
maybe you just get lower adminal pain or back pain
or leg pain, like, some of those things can all
be public floor related. And then constipation would be my
other big sort of thing. So if you've got any
of those symptoms, I start to kind of consider perhaps
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your public floor is actually going to have really poor
range of motion because it's kind of too wound up
versus being a weak.
Speaker 2 (11:31):
So it's quite a nuance. But in saying that, there
are a lot of other symptoms asides from just the
amount of times you're going to the toilet.
Speaker 3 (11:37):
Yeah, definitely, and like that definitely would like fall in
the category of perhaps you're overactive, but it wouldn't be
like my golden like, oh, yes, this is definitely why
your bladder is, you know, needing to empty so frequently,
but it can contribute.
Speaker 1 (11:51):
So your public floor kind of works like.
Speaker 3 (11:53):
An amplifier, so it amplifies all the other organs, and
there's sensory like signaling. So if your public floor is
really like tight or really upregulated, it's going to increase
the signaling of your bladder, your bow, your uterus. And
so that's why we can have this sort of intensity
with our periods when our public floor is tight. Or
you might feel like you have to pee more frequently
(12:14):
because your pelvic floor is really tight, and then bow
wise you might be getting pain or it's just you
can't empty because if there's no space for us to
be able to empty.
Speaker 2 (12:21):
Basically, oh my god, I was literally gonna say that,
and at a risk of sounding to TMI, it's like
the first day period peas and poops is like, well,
you know something's going on down there, t are you?
Speaker 1 (12:31):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (12:32):
Yeah, And that's super hormonal as well, like first day
poops of your period. That is just like everything being
like you got to go, everything's going.
Speaker 2 (12:42):
Oh, I love it. There were two more common things
that people were commenting that I wanted to chat to
you about. The First one was they were like, are
you sure you are actually emptying your bladder every time
you go? What does that even mean? Like, how do
you know, if you're emptying your blooder the whole time.
I just pee until I don't need to pee anymore,
and I'm assuming that that's emptying my bladder.
Speaker 3 (13:03):
Yeah, so the bladder, like you know how I was
seeing how it has like it's stretch, so as it's
filling a stretch, so we have I guess different like
time points or markers of stretch that the bladder will have,
and that gives us an intensity of filling. So when
the bladder first hits like the smallest amount of stretch,
you'll get this really small urge to wei or even
just like an inkling that you're like, oh, yeah, there's
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something in my bladder. And then if we leave that,
like we kind of go, no, I'm busy, I'm just
going to leave that feeling, it'll just get bigger. So
it'll hit the next stretch point and then you'll have
an even bigger sensation that you need to wei. And
then if you ignore that, you'll get like the next
stretch and the next urge. And so basically slowly the
bladder just keeps filling and you'll just keep getting a
slightly more intense urge. But because the bladder is what
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we call a convenience orcan you only actually go to
the toilet when it's convenient for you to do so?
So if you were actually out and about all morning
and it wasn't convenient for you to empty as much
as you are, you'd probably find you could kind of
half how many times you're going into the toilet because
it's just not convenient. Yeah, But if you're at home
all morning, like, you'll just go whenever you feel the
urge to go. So when we empty our bladder, we
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empty our bladder back to I mean, not necessarily zero.
So most people will empty their bladder within you know,
ten mills of the bladder having something in it, But
the bladder's never ever, like one hundred percent empty because
the uros which are putting we into the bladder are
constantly filling the bladder. So you'll empty your bladder down
and the sensory signaling that tells you that you've got
something in your bladder doesn't actually hit until like one
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hundred to one hundred and fifty mills. So if you
emptied your bladder and you only emptied like let's say
you had four hundred mills in your bladder, and you
emptied three hundred mils. You might feel empty, but you
still have one hundred mills in your bladder, which means
it might only take like, you know, an hour before
you're like, oh, there's something in my bladder again and
I need to WII, Whereas if you were able to
empty down to ten mills, it might take two or
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three hours before you feel that same sensation, right, And
that can also be another.
Speaker 1 (14:53):
Sign that your public flor is overactive.
Speaker 3 (14:55):
So if you're weiing and then your public floor just
clicks on a bit too soon, it'll just stop your
bladder from emptying, and so you just don't realize that
you had more to go because your public floor just
kind of clicked on a little bit too quickly.
Speaker 2 (15:06):
God, I'm so glad I'm talking to you, because I
should have also prefaced. I work one hundred percent remotely,
so I work from home, so it's very inconvenient for
me anytime I even get the tiniest little inkling that
I need to fee random question what is the maximum
amount of liquid or blood I can hold? Because I
know that, like there is one time in particular that
I remember being stuck in the most horrific traffic and
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it was like stinging to the point where I felt
like I was going to explode, and I was like,
I'm probably getting some kind of like infection happening right now.
So what is like the maximum amount of liquid your
blood I can hold at any given time and what
happens if it exceeds that amount?
Speaker 1 (15:43):
So the bladder can over distend.
Speaker 3 (15:46):
So if it overdistends as like a once off, that
can still be really problematic. But that's got to hit
like more than a liter, which is like a lot
of fluid for your bladder to have in so that's
not very achievable. But you would have like you know
when you hear about like nurses bladders or teachers bladders
or people who hold for a really long time, so
they could definitely hit six or seven hundred meals in
their bladder, they'd be really busting, but like they have
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the tolerance for that because they have just you know,
put it off and that's what the bladders like.
Speaker 1 (16:13):
But about five.
Speaker 3 (16:14):
Hundred mils is when most people would be like busting,
Like you would live your shopping trolley in the middle
of wool worse and literally go to the toilet because
you're like, I'm busting.
Speaker 1 (16:21):
I'm not going to make it.
Speaker 3 (16:23):
If your bladder overdistends too much and there's no reason
that you're like urethras, so where we out of isn't
going to stop it.
Speaker 1 (16:29):
Your bladder will just empty itself.
Speaker 2 (16:31):
So you just feel to see yourself. Yeah, well it's
not going to explode or anything internally. No.
Speaker 1 (16:35):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (16:36):
So the only reason that we ever get really worried
about it is sometimes if the urethra is dysfunctional and
it won't let the we out and then the bladder
just keeps feeling and filling. You'd be hospitalized if that
was happening to you. So yeah, and that would be
really painful. You definitely know your bladder was unhappy.
Speaker 2 (16:51):
Oh. I can't even imagine what that would feel like.
That is horrific. Yeah. There were a lot of teachers
who commented on that post saying, you're obviously not a teacher. No,
I'm not a teacher. I'm not. I couldn't do that
job purely for that reason.
Speaker 1 (17:03):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (17:04):
But the love thing that was commented quite frequently was
that's a symptom of OCD. And I was thinking about it,
and I was like, I get quite bad p anxiety
especially before I go on an aeroplane, before I like
get in the car, or like before I'm going somewhere
where I know it's not convenient commun to p What
percent of it is like psychological versus like physical?
Speaker 3 (17:28):
That is an interesting question because I think it's person dependent,
but I do think that there would be lots of
people where it is there is a psychological element. So
we actually use some behavioral methods when we're retraining the
bladder to have it be a little bit less like
frequent or allowed. So we will use different types of
distraction methods to try and calm the bladder down.
Speaker 1 (17:49):
So there is definitely an element of like the psych.
Speaker 3 (17:52):
Side of things that will contribute to how your bladder
is behaving. And I would say, is you know, if
your bladder yells at you, and then you like deal
with it, so you go to the toilet. Your bladder
knows that if it yells at you, you're going empty it.
And so sometimes we can get caught in this behavior
of just attending to the bladder as soon as it
yells at you, and that can cause problems, but not
for everyone because some people will just pee. You know,
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if I was going on a plane, I would peep
before I got on the plane because I don't.
Speaker 1 (18:16):
Want to pee on the plane.
Speaker 3 (18:17):
Even if I didn't have to wee at all, Like,
I would still do that because it's convenient and that's
totally fine and safe, And there's nothing wrong with doing that.
Speaker 1 (18:25):
Same thing with peing in the shower.
Speaker 3 (18:27):
Like it's not the end of the world if you
pee in the shower, but it is a problem if
peing in the shower means that when you're washing your
hands later that day, you also can't control yourself and
you start weaning because of that water association. So like
really for some people it's a problem and for other
people it's not a problem at all.
Speaker 2 (18:43):
Oh my god, I've never thought of it like that.
I was alwayst like trying to sleep train a baby.
It's like you've got to let me cry it out
sometimes and like ignore them otherwise they just think that
you're going to go in and cuddle them every time
they cry.
Speaker 3 (18:55):
Yeah, yeah, I mean it's exactly that. So yeah, so
definitely that whole Like, yeah, if you just wrap it
attend to it, yeah, you could be causing problems.
Speaker 1 (19:02):
But at the same time, like that's not for everyone.
Speaker 3 (19:04):
So some people will be totally fine and then be
able to hold their bladder for as long as they
need to the next time, and it doesn't build this
like behavior that becomes distressing for people. So it all
sort of comes back as well to like how bothersome
is this frequent peeing or the urge, Like you know,
if you're kind of the kind of person who you're like, well,
i can't even drive to the shops now because I'm
going to have to pee sometime through it, and that's
too stressful. That's obviously a really big issue and we
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need to deal with your bladder for that reason. But
if you're just conveniently peeing because it's always convenient for
you to pee, like, it's probably not a big deal.
Speaker 2 (19:35):
Or if you're drinking a lot of liquid or you've
heard a lot of coffee or I would say, yeah,
I'll do a road trip. Yeah, And the fluid thing
I reckon, that's like my number one. So we get
people to do fluid balance cheets where I.
Speaker 3 (19:45):
Get them to like measure how much WII they output
and then also tell me how much urge they felt
like they had when they went to WI. So if
they were like I was busting, couldn't control myself, like
had to we and then they only peed like one
hundred meals. I would be like, oh, that's not a
lot of fluid for that urge that you had. That
starts to clue me into something being funny. But if
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you were, like, you know, I was busting and I
had four hundred miles, I'd be like, cool, that's normal.
Your bladder should have probably felt like that at four
hundred miles. Yeah, And so I'll get them to do that,
and then I'll also get them to do a fluid
intake chart where I can see how much fluid did
you drink, what kind of fluid, and how quickly were
you consuming the fluid, and then I'll kind of tally
that up. And you know, half the time I see
people who have like four or five liters of fluid
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intake a day, which is a huge amount of fluid
for your bladder to be able to tolerate in one day.
And so I see that and I kind of go, oh, Okay,
we probably need to deal with your fluid. That's actually
probably the issue. It probably has nothing to do with
the function of your bladder. It's just the what it
has to cope with every day.
Speaker 2 (20:43):
Oh, this is music to my ears now, I'm know. Also,
just while we're on that topic of liquid consumption, someone's
told me that by adding electrolytes or salts to my water,
it's going to help my body retain it and I
won't need to pee as much? Is that a myth?
And I just wanted to ask you that now because
I know electrolytes are really trending and it's a real
point of contention.
Speaker 3 (21:02):
Yeah, I would say I don't know the research enough,
but I would say no, Like if it was me,
I would say no, Like, if your body doesn't need
more electrolytes, you're just gonna weed them out. Yeah, if
your body needs them obviously, like if you're diarrhea or
something like.
Speaker 1 (21:16):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (21:17):
Yeah, So there are like some reasons like people who
don't drink enough fluid if you added electrolytes, like that
might be useful for them, Or people who have like
diarrhe air or something like that, or they're vomiting or
whatever like yeah, of course adding electrolytes is probably useful
for them. But the average person who just like drinks
and if you're drinking too much, like if you drink
five liters of fluid to day, you might actually be
wiping yourself of some of your electrolyte levels. So if
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you added electrolytes back in for those people, that might
be helpful. But what would actually probably be more helpful
is not drinking five liters of fluid to day. So
I'd probably start to taper that down.
Speaker 2 (21:50):
I mean, I feel like you have solved literally all
of my problems. I drink probably five liters of water
a day. I work from home, is convenient for me
to pee. I'm like, like, I'm so fine, I'm so sordid.
So then just to wrap everything in a nice little bow,
what is one thing that you wish every woman in
her thirties knew about her pelvic floor?
Speaker 1 (22:09):
Like what it is?
Speaker 3 (22:12):
I feel like so many people just don't even know
that it exists.
Speaker 1 (22:17):
I would say probably because what I see in my
clinic the most.
Speaker 3 (22:19):
So my special area of expertise is sexual pain, so
that's what I mostly treat.
Speaker 1 (22:24):
And then just like period pain, pelvic pain.
Speaker 3 (22:27):
And the thing that I see the most in everyone
of every age is just this relentless tummy sucking, Like
everybody's sucking their stomach in all the time, and it
causes your public flow to be on all the time.
And so when we like can't relax our abdominals and
our public floor can't relax, like we just get set
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up with the whole heap of problems and we don't
even realize we're doing it off the time. We've just
conditioned ourselves to constantly be sucking our stomachs in. But
I would say that is probably like if everybody could
just like let their stomach go a little bit, like
your public floor relax a little bit, and then a
lot of your troubles will probably get better.
Speaker 2 (23:04):
I'm going to give two of my our friends with your
phone number because they have this impact issue and they
will be like crying right now listening to this. That
is so phenomenal. Thank you so much money. I good
honestly chat to you about the people day is win.
Speaker 1 (23:18):
That's such a good topic.
Speaker 2 (23:21):
And just before we go, can you let everyone know
where they can find more about you?
Speaker 1 (23:25):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (23:26):
So, I'm the owner of the Healthy Peach PHSIO. We
are a clinic located in the Grange. We do tell
you health if you don't live close to the Grange,
which is in Brisbane, but you can find us on
Instagram at the Healthy Peach Viseo or we've got a
website as well.
Speaker 2 (23:38):
Thank you so much, and i'll pop all of the
links in this week's show notes.
Speaker 1 (23:42):
Thanks brilliant, thanks for having me. Thank you.
A pod jay production.
Speaker 2 (00:15):
Welcome to Unhinged. This is a podcast about the unfiltered,
unhinged and uncomfortably relatable shit that you only talk about
in your closest group chat. I'm Phoebe. Welcome to the
podcast Money point Out from the Healthy Page Visio. I
am so excited to chat to you today off the
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back of a TikTok that I posted a couple of
weeks ago that went viral where I basically said that
I found out the average person piece between six to
eight times a day and I was horrified to find
that out because I pe six to eight times before
ten am, and that TikTok went absolutely viral. I cannot
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wrap my head around the fact that I've just found
out that average person piece between six to eight times
a day. It is not even ten am yet and
I have peed eight times. Furthermore to that, I don't
remember the last time I slept through the night because
I've had to get up to go pete. Do I
need to seek medical attention or am I just a
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hydrated queen? And I was shocked at how many thousands
of people were leaving comments like you've got diabetes, you
need to take medical attention. I probably should have given
more context about the fact that Number one, I do
get up at four point thirty in the morning, so
by the time it's ten am, I've already been up
the day last day. I also drink a lot of caffeine,
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which I'm sure plays into it. But I really wanted
to get a female visio's perspective on this, because you
are the absolute expert.
Speaker 1 (01:49):
Thank you. Nice to be called an expert.
Speaker 3 (01:52):
Actually, but yes, we see this all the time in
the clinic, so it's a really common, like a really
common thing that people come in to see us for.
Speaker 2 (02:01):
Oh my god, So is it actually true that average
person does only p six eight times a day?
Speaker 3 (02:06):
Yes, so six to eight times would be like a
fairly like normal amount to pee on an average day.
But like, it kind of depends on lots of things.
But I would say the average person, yep, six to
eight times would be really.
Speaker 1 (02:18):
Comfortable for them.
Speaker 2 (02:19):
Okay, So if I'm hitting that before ten am, should
I actually be listening to these TikTok trolls and seeking
medical attention.
Speaker 3 (02:27):
It's not necessarily that you need medical attention, but there
is like a ton of things that could be increasing.
How much you need to wei, and so I would
like the first thing I always ask everybody is like
how much fluid do you drink? Because input in like
input out, like you know, like there's got to be
a balance inside your body. I mean, if you're drinking
like a lot of fluid, then you're gonna have a
lot of fluid.
Speaker 1 (02:48):
Come out of you.
Speaker 2 (02:49):
Okay, that is really good to know, because firstly, I
did a podcast episode a couple of weeks ago that
was what I drink in a day essentially, and I
went through what I drink in a day. It's a
shit ton of liquid, Like I'm what was talking like
seven hundred milligrams of caffeine, I mean, like on top
of three leaders of water and like the fruit and
vegetables and all that kind of stuff. So I do
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drink a lot of water. But is there, like in
saying that, is there an actual number of times a
day that would be considered too much if you were
going to the toilet.
Speaker 3 (03:20):
Not medically speaking, I would say usually it would be
like a bothersome factor. So we'll have people come in
and they'll say, like, you know, I'm peeing twenty times
a day, And if that really bothers them, then we
can do something about that. But if you're peeing, you know,
eight times before ten o'clock and it like doesn't phase
you whatsoever, and there's no medical reason for you peeing
that much, then like there's no reason to change it.
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So it's probably more bothersome factor wise as to whether
or not I would do anything about someone's like.
Speaker 1 (03:47):
Volume of peeing.
Speaker 3 (03:48):
But yeah, if you're not bothered by it, and pining
twenty times a day is just you jam, Like it
seems a bit disruptive, but I think that would be fun.
Speaker 2 (03:56):
I mean, I wouldn't call it my jam. And one
of the other things that I did cover was I
also wake up at least once a night to go
to the toilet, which I wouldn't say that's impacting my
quality of life. Like I'm not going to get that
dramatic when I say it, but I know that it
is probably problematic to be woken up from sleep to
go and use the toilet.
Speaker 3 (04:15):
I mean, yes, it definitely obviously does like disrupt your sleep,
but once a night would be also considered normal, So
I'd say that's in the realm of normal sort of
you being like I've just started waking up once a night,
And I don't know what's going on, but if your
norm is just that you always wake up once a night,
that's not really a big deal. More than once a
night definitely does start making me kind of go like, oh,
what could be happening? Like do you drink a liter
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of fluid before you get to bend or do you
have lots of swelling in your legs? Or is there
some reason why, like your output overnight is like too high,
So that definitely is I would say an output over
night is something that concerns me often more than output
during the day, especially if there's like no medical like
if there's something medical going on, like that might trigger
the nighttime avoiding to increase. But yeah, during the day,
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it's usually just input verst output.
Speaker 2 (05:00):
That is so interesting. And I know exactly why my
output is like that at nighttime because I'm like a
baby with a bot bot. I can't go to sleep
without having my little nighttime hot chocolate. It happens to
be twenty minutes before I hop into bed, so of
course it's got to come out somewhere.
Speaker 3 (05:14):
Yeah, So I mean your kidney slow down overnight, So
there's like a hormon your body producers, and everything slows
right down. But if you still just put like four
or five hundred miles of fluid into your body, like
your body still has to process that before you wake
up most likely, So even though everything slows down, you're
still probably drinking too much fluid before you go to bit.
Speaker 2 (05:33):
One hundred percent. And I know that, Like I know
that it was bothering me that much. What would I do?
I would stop drinking that hot chocolate before I went
to bed at night? Yeah exactly.
Speaker 3 (05:40):
Oh you drink it, like, you know, a few hours
before you go to bed instead.
Speaker 2 (05:44):
Yeah, exactly. Now I have heard before a common I
don't know if this is a myth or not, but
I know that for a lot of people when they
start embarking on let's just call it a hydration journey,
when they're trying to be a bit more healthy and
they're starting to drink a bit more water, I have
heard people say like, oh, I just can't do it
because I just need to go to the toilet so
much more often. But then people are like, no, just
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push through. Your bladder will get used to it. Is
that something that's true, or is your body naturally supposed
to just expel that water.
Speaker 3 (06:13):
There is there is a tolerance that your bladder has
in terms of its filling capacity, and its tolerance can
change depending on how.
Speaker 1 (06:20):
Fast your bladder is filling.
Speaker 3 (06:22):
So if you're the kind of person that like chugs
your water instead of sipping it frequently through the day,
then your bladder has to fill at a quicker rate.
And the quicker rate that your bladder fills out means
that the stretch receptors in your bladder don't have as
much time to kind of slowly like accommodate and allow
for more fluid to fill. And so the bladder will
basically give you signals a lot quicker if it's having
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to fill a lot quicker. So the way I always
think about it is like you know when you get
like jelly snakes and you like stretch them really really slow,
and they like you can get them really long, but
if you stretch it really fast, it would just snap.
Speaker 1 (06:55):
So your bladder compliance is really similar to that.
Speaker 3 (06:57):
So if you can stretch it really slowly, you'll feel
a lot more in your bladder before you get the
same level of purge.
Speaker 2 (07:02):
Basically, I know that Noah Spink and see my face
right now, hate is dropping in my head because I'm
a chugger. Like, I'm a very efficient person. So when
I feel my stanley, I'll pretty much drink that one
point two liters of water so I can just know
I've had my water and I can move on with
my day. But then the result of that, obviously, what
you're saying is my bladder is a peak very quickly. Yeah,
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so there's no time for it to stretch, so it's
got to come straight back out.
Speaker 3 (07:27):
Yeah, that's the thing you said about coffee earlier, where
you were like, you know, is that irritating my bladder?
For some people, yes, like caffeine, spicy food sometimes like
Bubbly drinks, sugar free supplements and stuff like, all of
that stuff can be a bit irritating to the bladder.
But what I find is more irritating to the bladder
is how quickly you drink your fluid. So I'm also
a fast beverage drinker. So I get my coffee and
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it's like a big coffee. See how big my coffee is,
And I drink it very quickly, and then I of
course then have to pee a lot afterwards. But if
I drink my coffee really slowly, my tolerance would be
totally fine. So it's definitely like, you know, if you've
got a fun beverage and you drink that beverage really,
if I asked, you're going to have to pee.
Speaker 1 (08:06):
And all fluid is fluid.
Speaker 3 (08:08):
Like the only fluid that I don't consider a fluid
is alcohol because that one is dehydrating. But coffee is
still predominantly water, so it's not going to dehydrate you.
It's just floated water with caffeine in it.
Speaker 2 (08:20):
I'm so glad you said that, because my boyfriend makes
fun of me all the time for how quick I
drink my beverages, especially coffee. I even get my coffee
extra hot to try and slow me down. That's not
even enough. I'm just I cannot get it in burning mouth. Yeah,
I don't know what's wrong with me. So the most
common things that people told me was medically wrong with
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me on TikTok, a very obviously legitimate source of information. Firstly,
a lot of people told me I had diabetes and
that was their symptom of diabetes. But I feel like,
you know, not to generalize, but I'm sure there'd be
like several other symptoms that come along with diabeting, most
definitely A lot of other people also told me that
I might have a very weak pelvic floor, and I
was like, girlfriends, I teach pilates, trust me my pelvic.
Speaker 1 (09:03):
Floor in a week?
Speaker 2 (09:05):
Is there something that I might be mixing up? Like
as a woman, I know that like we probably should
be doing kegel exercises, but like how often should we
really be doing them?
Speaker 3 (09:15):
This is like the great debate in the pelvic health world,
because not everybody actually does think that we should be
doing kegel exercises. So I think there's like a time
and a place and a person who should be doing
kegel exercises, and then everybody else has like a functioning
pervic floor that will just kind of like bump up
and down all day like and just turn itself on
and off like all the other muscles in your body,
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and we don't actually need to pay special attention to it.
So if you are the kind of person who has
maybe you did just have a baby, and maybe your
public flaw does actually have some weakness to it and
we do need to make it stronger, you're the target
person for doing keegels.
Speaker 1 (09:51):
If you're a person.
Speaker 3 (09:52):
Who has just like a normal functioning pervic floor, it
will be as strong as the rest of your body is,
and there's no need for us to like specifically focus
on that muscle necessarily. What I find is actually the opposite,
and most people are really overactive or their public floor
is actually a little bit too tight, or its range
of motion has decreased, so instead of it being able
to move through like the full kind of stretch and
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contraction range that it should have, it actually moves through
a really small range, and that becomes really problematic, and
that actually can make you feel like you have to
empty your blooder more frequently.
Speaker 2 (10:24):
Really, yes, So then how do you know if I mean,
I guess this is probably a hard thing to ask
without actually going and being assessed by a female physio,
But how do you know if you would have like
an underactive or overactive pelvic floor?
Speaker 1 (10:38):
I usually would say based on symptoms.
Speaker 3 (10:40):
So, like the biggest symptoms that you would have is
pain with penetration, so that might be like difficulty putting
your tampons in pain off doctor exams, pain with sex,
And then there would also be potentially in continents, which
I know sounds really random that if you're tired, that
you would also have in continents, but sometimes that can
contribute to leaking, so that would be urine leaking. And
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then pain, So whether or not you've got like a
history of some sort of like period pain condition, or
whether or not you're getting like weird hip pains, or
maybe you just get lower adminal pain or back pain
or leg pain, like, some of those things can all
be public floor related. And then constipation would be my
other big sort of thing. So if you've got any
of those symptoms, I start to kind of consider perhaps
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your public floor is actually going to have really poor
range of motion because it's kind of too wound up
versus being a weak.
Speaker 2 (11:31):
So it's quite a nuance. But in saying that, there
are a lot of other symptoms asides from just the
amount of times you're going to the toilet.
Speaker 3 (11:37):
Yeah, definitely, and like that definitely would like fall in
the category of perhaps you're overactive, but it wouldn't be
like my golden like, oh, yes, this is definitely why
your bladder is, you know, needing to empty so frequently,
but it can contribute.
Speaker 1 (11:51):
So your public floor kind of works like.
Speaker 3 (11:53):
An amplifier, so it amplifies all the other organs, and
there's sensory like signaling. So if your public floor is
really like tight or really upregulated, it's going to increase
the signaling of your bladder, your bow, your uterus. And
so that's why we can have this sort of intensity
with our periods when our public floor is tight. Or
you might feel like you have to pee more frequently
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because your pelvic floor is really tight, and then bow
wise you might be getting pain or it's just you
can't empty because if there's no space for us to
be able to empty.
Speaker 2 (12:21):
Basically, oh my god, I was literally gonna say that,
and at a risk of sounding to TMI, it's like
the first day period peas and poops is like, well,
you know something's going on down there, t are you?
Speaker 1 (12:31):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (12:32):
Yeah, And that's super hormonal as well, like first day
poops of your period. That is just like everything being
like you got to go, everything's going.
Speaker 2 (12:42):
Oh, I love it. There were two more common things
that people were commenting that I wanted to chat to
you about. The First one was they were like, are
you sure you are actually emptying your bladder every time
you go? What does that even mean? Like, how do
you know, if you're emptying your blooder the whole time.
I just pee until I don't need to pee anymore,
and I'm assuming that that's emptying my bladder.
Speaker 3 (13:03):
Yeah, so the bladder, like you know how I was
seeing how it has like it's stretch, so as it's
filling a stretch, so we have I guess different like
time points or markers of stretch that the bladder will have,
and that gives us an intensity of filling. So when
the bladder first hits like the smallest amount of stretch,
you'll get this really small urge to wei or even
just like an inkling that you're like, oh, yeah, there's
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something in my bladder. And then if we leave that,
like we kind of go, no, I'm busy, I'm just
going to leave that feeling, it'll just get bigger. So
it'll hit the next stretch point and then you'll have
an even bigger sensation that you need to wei. And
then if you ignore that, you'll get like the next
stretch and the next urge. And so basically slowly the
bladder just keeps filling and you'll just keep getting a
slightly more intense urge. But because the bladder is what
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we call a convenience orcan you only actually go to
the toilet when it's convenient for you to do so?
So if you were actually out and about all morning
and it wasn't convenient for you to empty as much
as you are, you'd probably find you could kind of
half how many times you're going into the toilet because
it's just not convenient. Yeah, But if you're at home
all morning, like, you'll just go whenever you feel the
urge to go. So when we empty our bladder, we
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empty our bladder back to I mean, not necessarily zero.
So most people will empty their bladder within you know,
ten mills of the bladder having something in it, But
the bladder's never ever, like one hundred percent empty because
the uros which are putting we into the bladder are
constantly filling the bladder. So you'll empty your bladder down
and the sensory signaling that tells you that you've got
something in your bladder doesn't actually hit until like one
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hundred to one hundred and fifty mills. So if you
emptied your bladder and you only emptied like let's say
you had four hundred mills in your bladder, and you
emptied three hundred mils. You might feel empty, but you
still have one hundred mills in your bladder, which means
it might only take like, you know, an hour before
you're like, oh, there's something in my bladder again and
I need to WII, Whereas if you were able to
empty down to ten mills, it might take two or
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three hours before you feel that same sensation, right, And
that can also be another.
Speaker 1 (14:53):
Sign that your public flor is overactive.
Speaker 3 (14:55):
So if you're weiing and then your public floor just
clicks on a bit too soon, it'll just stop your
bladder from emptying, and so you just don't realize that
you had more to go because your public floor just
kind of clicked on a little bit too quickly.
Speaker 2 (15:06):
God, I'm so glad I'm talking to you, because I
should have also prefaced. I work one hundred percent remotely,
so I work from home, so it's very inconvenient for
me anytime I even get the tiniest little inkling that
I need to fee random question what is the maximum
amount of liquid or blood I can hold? Because I
know that, like there is one time in particular that
I remember being stuck in the most horrific traffic and
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it was like stinging to the point where I felt
like I was going to explode, and I was like,
I'm probably getting some kind of like infection happening right now.
So what is like the maximum amount of liquid your
blood I can hold at any given time and what
happens if it exceeds that amount?
Speaker 1 (15:43):
So the bladder can over distend.
Speaker 3 (15:46):
So if it overdistends as like a once off, that
can still be really problematic. But that's got to hit
like more than a liter, which is like a lot
of fluid for your bladder to have in so that's
not very achievable. But you would have like you know
when you hear about like nurses bladders or teachers bladders
or people who hold for a really long time, so
they could definitely hit six or seven hundred meals in
their bladder, they'd be really busting, but like they have
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the tolerance for that because they have just you know,
put it off and that's what the bladders like.
Speaker 1 (16:13):
But about five.
Speaker 3 (16:14):
Hundred mils is when most people would be like busting,
Like you would live your shopping trolley in the middle
of wool worse and literally go to the toilet because
you're like, I'm busting.
Speaker 1 (16:21):
I'm not going to make it.
Speaker 3 (16:23):
If your bladder overdistends too much and there's no reason
that you're like urethras, so where we out of isn't
going to stop it.
Speaker 1 (16:29):
Your bladder will just empty itself.
Speaker 2 (16:31):
So you just feel to see yourself. Yeah, well it's
not going to explode or anything internally. No.
Speaker 1 (16:35):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (16:36):
So the only reason that we ever get really worried
about it is sometimes if the urethra is dysfunctional and
it won't let the we out and then the bladder
just keeps feeling and filling. You'd be hospitalized if that
was happening to you. So yeah, and that would be
really painful. You definitely know your bladder was unhappy.
Speaker 2 (16:51):
Oh. I can't even imagine what that would feel like.
That is horrific. Yeah. There were a lot of teachers
who commented on that post saying, you're obviously not a teacher. No,
I'm not a teacher. I'm not. I couldn't do that
job purely for that reason.
Speaker 1 (17:03):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (17:04):
But the love thing that was commented quite frequently was
that's a symptom of OCD. And I was thinking about it,
and I was like, I get quite bad p anxiety
especially before I go on an aeroplane, before I like
get in the car, or like before I'm going somewhere
where I know it's not convenient commun to p What
percent of it is like psychological versus like physical?
Speaker 3 (17:28):
That is an interesting question because I think it's person dependent,
but I do think that there would be lots of
people where it is there is a psychological element. So
we actually use some behavioral methods when we're retraining the
bladder to have it be a little bit less like
frequent or allowed. So we will use different types of
distraction methods to try and calm the bladder down.
Speaker 1 (17:49):
So there is definitely an element of like the psych.
Speaker 3 (17:52):
Side of things that will contribute to how your bladder
is behaving. And I would say, is you know, if
your bladder yells at you, and then you like deal
with it, so you go to the toilet. Your bladder
knows that if it yells at you, you're going empty it.
And so sometimes we can get caught in this behavior
of just attending to the bladder as soon as it
yells at you, and that can cause problems, but not
for everyone because some people will just pee. You know,
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if I was going on a plane, I would peep
before I got on the plane because I don't.
Speaker 1 (18:16):
Want to pee on the plane.
Speaker 3 (18:17):
Even if I didn't have to wee at all, Like,
I would still do that because it's convenient and that's
totally fine and safe, And there's nothing wrong with doing that.
Speaker 1 (18:25):
Same thing with peing in the shower.
Speaker 3 (18:27):
Like it's not the end of the world if you
pee in the shower, but it is a problem if
peing in the shower means that when you're washing your
hands later that day, you also can't control yourself and
you start weaning because of that water association. So like
really for some people it's a problem and for other
people it's not a problem at all.
Speaker 2 (18:43):
Oh my god, I've never thought of it like that.
I was alwayst like trying to sleep train a baby.
It's like you've got to let me cry it out
sometimes and like ignore them otherwise they just think that
you're going to go in and cuddle them every time
they cry.
Speaker 3 (18:55):
Yeah, yeah, I mean it's exactly that. So yeah, so
definitely that whole Like, yeah, if you just wrap it
attend to it, yeah, you could be causing problems.
Speaker 1 (19:02):
But at the same time, like that's not for everyone.
Speaker 3 (19:04):
So some people will be totally fine and then be
able to hold their bladder for as long as they
need to the next time, and it doesn't build this
like behavior that becomes distressing for people. So it all
sort of comes back as well to like how bothersome
is this frequent peeing or the urge, Like you know,
if you're kind of the kind of person who you're like, well,
i can't even drive to the shops now because I'm
going to have to pee sometime through it, and that's
too stressful. That's obviously a really big issue and we
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need to deal with your bladder for that reason. But
if you're just conveniently peeing because it's always convenient for
you to pee, like, it's probably not a big deal.
Speaker 2 (19:35):
Or if you're drinking a lot of liquid or you've
heard a lot of coffee or I would say, yeah,
I'll do a road trip. Yeah, And the fluid thing
I reckon, that's like my number one. So we get
people to do fluid balance cheets where I.
Speaker 3 (19:45):
Get them to like measure how much WII they output
and then also tell me how much urge they felt
like they had when they went to WI. So if
they were like I was busting, couldn't control myself, like
had to we and then they only peed like one
hundred meals. I would be like, oh, that's not a
lot of fluid for that urge that you had. That
starts to clue me into something being funny. But if
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you were, like, you know, I was busting and I
had four hundred miles, I'd be like, cool, that's normal.
Your bladder should have probably felt like that at four
hundred miles. Yeah, And so I'll get them to do that,
and then I'll also get them to do a fluid
intake chart where I can see how much fluid did
you drink, what kind of fluid, and how quickly were
you consuming the fluid, and then I'll kind of tally
that up. And you know, half the time I see
people who have like four or five liters of fluid
(20:26):
intake a day, which is a huge amount of fluid
for your bladder to be able to tolerate in one day.
And so I see that and I kind of go, oh, Okay,
we probably need to deal with your fluid. That's actually
probably the issue. It probably has nothing to do with
the function of your bladder. It's just the what it
has to cope with every day.
Speaker 2 (20:43):
Oh, this is music to my ears now, I'm know. Also,
just while we're on that topic of liquid consumption, someone's
told me that by adding electrolytes or salts to my water,
it's going to help my body retain it and I
won't need to pee as much? Is that a myth?
And I just wanted to ask you that now because
I know electrolytes are really trending and it's a real
point of contention.
Speaker 3 (21:02):
Yeah, I would say I don't know the research enough,
but I would say no, Like if it was me,
I would say no, Like, if your body doesn't need
more electrolytes, you're just gonna weed them out. Yeah, if
your body needs them obviously, like if you're diarrhea or
something like.
Speaker 1 (21:16):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (21:17):
Yeah, So there are like some reasons like people who
don't drink enough fluid if you added electrolytes, like that
might be useful for them, Or people who have like
diarrhe air or something like that, or they're vomiting or
whatever like yeah, of course adding electrolytes is probably useful
for them. But the average person who just like drinks
and if you're drinking too much, like if you drink
five liters of fluid to day, you might actually be
wiping yourself of some of your electrolyte levels. So if
(21:40):
you added electrolytes back in for those people, that might
be helpful. But what would actually probably be more helpful
is not drinking five liters of fluid to day. So
I'd probably start to taper that down.
Speaker 2 (21:50):
I mean, I feel like you have solved literally all
of my problems. I drink probably five liters of water
a day. I work from home, is convenient for me
to pee. I'm like, like, I'm so fine, I'm so sordid.
So then just to wrap everything in a nice little bow,
what is one thing that you wish every woman in
her thirties knew about her pelvic floor?
Speaker 1 (22:09):
Like what it is?
Speaker 3 (22:12):
I feel like so many people just don't even know
that it exists.
Speaker 1 (22:17):
I would say probably because what I see in my
clinic the most.
Speaker 3 (22:19):
So my special area of expertise is sexual pain, so
that's what I mostly treat.
Speaker 1 (22:24):
And then just like period pain, pelvic pain.
Speaker 3 (22:27):
And the thing that I see the most in everyone
of every age is just this relentless tummy sucking, Like
everybody's sucking their stomach in all the time, and it
causes your public flow to be on all the time.
And so when we like can't relax our abdominals and
our public floor can't relax, like we just get set
(22:47):
up with the whole heap of problems and we don't
even realize we're doing it off the time. We've just
conditioned ourselves to constantly be sucking our stomachs in. But
I would say that is probably like if everybody could
just like let their stomach go a little bit, like
your public floor relax a little bit, and then a
lot of your troubles will probably get better.
Speaker 2 (23:04):
I'm going to give two of my our friends with your
phone number because they have this impact issue and they
will be like crying right now listening to this. That
is so phenomenal. Thank you so much money. I good
honestly chat to you about the people day is win.
Speaker 1 (23:18):
That's such a good topic.
Speaker 2 (23:21):
And just before we go, can you let everyone know
where they can find more about you?
Speaker 1 (23:25):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (23:26):
So, I'm the owner of the Healthy Peach PHSIO. We
are a clinic located in the Grange. We do tell
you health if you don't live close to the Grange,
which is in Brisbane, but you can find us on
Instagram at the Healthy Peach Viseo or we've got a
website as well.
Speaker 2 (23:38):
Thank you so much, and i'll pop all of the
links in this week's show notes.
Speaker 1 (23:42):
Thanks brilliant, thanks for having me. Thank you.
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