July 20, 2025 • 40 mins
We've all seen the what I eat in a day videos, now it’s time for the what I drink in a day version. In this episode, and her best friend Nicila Costello (professional boxer and fellow caffeine addict) sit down to compare their daily drink lineups.
From pre-workout to cordial and everything in between, they break down their hydration habits, caffeine highs (and crashes), and the drinks they swear by. Spoiler: one of them clocks over 700mg of caffeine… and it's not even their busiest day.
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Speaker 1 (00:05):
Appod Jake Production, Welcome to Unhinged. This is a podcast
about the unfiltered, unhinged, and uncomfortably relatable shit that you
only talk about in your closest group. Jacks, I'm Phoebe.
(00:29):
Welcome back to the podcast, Doll.
Speaker 2 (00:32):
Thank you for having me and I love the new podcast.
Speaker 3 (00:34):
Well.
Speaker 1 (00:36):
Now, the reason I wanted to have you on today
is because we are all very familiar with what I
eat in a day content, and those videos are so rife.
Speaker 3 (00:43):
I don't love them.
Speaker 1 (00:44):
What I'm more interested in is what I drink in
a day, because I love fun.
Speaker 3 (00:50):
Dress should have got GCD on here. It would have
been like, this.
Speaker 1 (00:53):
Is an alcohol free edition because there's an alcohol free addition.
Speaker 3 (00:57):
I'm just one of.
Speaker 1 (00:57):
Those people that genuinely fizzes over fun looking drinks. Like
just then, I was at the health food store any coffee.
I stood in front of that fridge for twenty minutes
looking at all of the fun beverages.
Speaker 3 (01:08):
Do you struggle to drink.
Speaker 1 (01:09):
Water or no? No, no, okay, which we'll get too soon,
but yeah. Essentially wanted to go through what we drink
in a day. Also for the fact that I know
that I over consume caffeine, and I probably abuse caffeine,
but I've never once talied up how many milligrams I'm
actually drinking in a day.
Speaker 3 (01:26):
So this is going to be confronting. You shouldn't have
done that. I assume you. It's not a good thing
to do.
Speaker 2 (01:33):
It's hard because it's even one of those things that's
not like it's too much to commit to reduce it totally,
so instead we just keep going to up it, like
you're like, oh I could.
Speaker 3 (01:42):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (01:42):
I also get you gonna be honest about this because
I know for a fact that you don't like to
drink water.
Speaker 3 (01:47):
Yeah, you really struggle, which I think is a real thing.
Speaker 1 (01:50):
Like it's very real to hear that coming from an
athlete and a personal trainer.
Speaker 2 (01:53):
I'd be a lot better off of faith didn't struggle
to drink water.
Speaker 3 (01:57):
I used to be like that. Yeah I really did. Yeah.
All right, let's start in the morning.
Speaker 1 (02:02):
My alarm goes off at four twenty and by four
p thirty am, I've had my first glass of pre workout,
which is my pre workout of choice is the Naked
harvessal Worm's pre Workout.
Speaker 3 (02:14):
I fucking love it.
Speaker 1 (02:16):
But I have two glasses when I'm getting dressed and
ready to go to the gym.
Speaker 3 (02:21):
With a scoop each it okay, so you're having two souves. Yes, okay.
Speaker 1 (02:26):
And the other catch of that is, so I had
to look at the bottle this morning. It's one hundred
and twenty milligrams per serve of the pre workout. But
I also don't weigh it. So and these ones don't
come with a little scoop in them, so I actually
don't know.
Speaker 2 (02:41):
I don't know how many milligrams. I'm happy it doesn't
come with a scoop. No, Well, how do you know
what your souving is? Does it say like one teaspoon
or something? It says like how many grams? But I'm
not weighing the grand look, but I'm not Look, I'm
not in their I'm not in the development team.
Speaker 3 (02:57):
But they should put a scoop in there. Maybe they should.
I need to know. I want to read the instructions.
I usually have it in my bag, but I just
took it out, didn't get a scoop. What is even
I'm not getting snabe. It's just me here to give
a scape. Why don't think anyone gets a scoopy. Maybe
just use it with chick the lipt.
Speaker 1 (03:10):
It's all environmental packaging, so they can't have a scoop
in it because it will be plastic.
Speaker 2 (03:14):
But it will say I guarantee it sees like a
tablespoon or something.
Speaker 3 (03:17):
On the back. Oh, it probably does. I just don't
read that. So what do you do? Do you just
get it?
Speaker 2 (03:21):
No?
Speaker 1 (03:21):
I get a tea spoon, okay, and I put it
in a glass. Then I mix it up and I
drink it, and then I do another one.
Speaker 2 (03:27):
I know that this isn't good to do right now
because there's a podcast. You probably need continue in talking,
so you keep going, but I want to google this
because I need to know because it will significantly impact
because if it's like say, a tablespoon and you're having
a teaspoon, maybe you're only having one soon.
Speaker 1 (03:41):
No, because I'm pretty certain the back says like ten
grams as a serve, which is not many grams when you're.
Speaker 3 (03:48):
Talking in terms of pre work.
Speaker 2 (03:50):
I feel like, I hope, okay, you continue, but we
do need to. I want to actually know that because
and I'm so surprised that you've asked me here to
do this and you've tell it everything up and you
are just raw dogging how much you're putting can.
Speaker 3 (04:03):
Well, this is the only thing that's not measured specifically.
Speaker 1 (04:05):
So I tallied that out at one hundred and twenty
milligrams per serve. So by five am, I've had two
hundred and forty milligrams of caffeine. That At five thirty AM,
when I'm training, I have bcas in my water bottle.
And this is not because I think I need more caffeine.
This is purely because I don't like the taste of
plain water when I'm training, especially if I'm doing.
Speaker 3 (04:26):
Cardio, and I think we've discussed this recently.
Speaker 2 (04:29):
I was like, you just need to switch that one out,
for I would be putting that one to just a
normal BCAS or EAAs or.
Speaker 1 (04:35):
Like fucking cordial at this point, like I just need
anything in it that just makes it taste gummy and delicious.
So before six am, I've hit three hundred and forty
milligrams of caffeine already. The average serve the average person
drinks is what recommended to be to stick to below
four hundred milligrams a day. So before six am, before
majority of people have even gotten out of bed.
Speaker 3 (04:57):
I've already hit my daily just seven three days on
one day. That's fine.
Speaker 2 (05:00):
You have a lot to do. You're getting shit done, Okay,
talk me through your morning. Why don't I think mine's
that bad? I actually everyone knows. I drink a lot
of caffeine. I'm caffeinated all the time. But say my
alarm goes off at four to twenty as well, then
four twenty four, then four twenty nine, which is when
I get up. I don't drink any caffeine before work,
er anything you raw dog it to go to work.
Speaker 3 (05:20):
Yeah, I use fucking.
Speaker 2 (05:21):
I'm just high on life and on you guys, because
I just love training you honestly, you know, I don't.
Speaker 3 (05:28):
Even on the mornings I teach.
Speaker 1 (05:29):
I'm still doing my pre workout ritual before I go
to work.
Speaker 3 (05:32):
Nah, And so that's nothing.
Speaker 2 (05:34):
And generally I've just tried to start drinking like that's electrolytes, so.
Speaker 3 (05:40):
That will get me to drink some water.
Speaker 2 (05:41):
But like I've recently started doing that just because I'm
sparring after But yeah, generally nothing before As soon as
I've finished my shift, I get my coffee and I
do a double shot.
Speaker 3 (05:51):
Now that generally, if you were going.
Speaker 2 (05:53):
To go get a shot at a coffee, it's probably
like eighty to one hundred milligrams in a shot, so tea.
I google it, Yeah, I google this.
Speaker 1 (06:00):
One shot of coffee has what's hard of one hundred
and twenty six sixty three that's how many milligrams are
in the shot of coffee.
Speaker 2 (06:10):
But I also think it's so it's so turned down,
Like coffee is one of those things like say, for instance,
I can drink or something, it's you've got the milligrams
of caffeine. I honestly, sweet to god, sometimes I get
like four shots and I feel nothing, and I'm like, there,
I think that they've you know what I mean, Like
it's so inconsistent. You could be probably getting forty milligrams
and two shots or like upwards of two fifty milligrams.
(06:33):
I think it's so heait and mess, and I don't
have that for the caffeine in general.
Speaker 3 (06:38):
I just really like going to coffee, you know, it's
more the ritual thing.
Speaker 2 (06:42):
I just enjoy that experience and I love a coffee,
so yeah, I have that. And then as soon as
I've finished that, and I start with say, my admin
I'm drinking like an RTD energy drink, So then that's
when I crack it, and that's pretty much me for
the rest of the day will be smashing like I
just have like say an amino energy or.
Speaker 1 (07:01):
Like how many milligrams of caffeine are in like an
RTD like.
Speaker 2 (07:05):
Again, it varies, but generally they're around one fifty, so
one hundred and fifty milligrams, So she.
Speaker 1 (07:10):
Was pretty similar to a serve of like pre workout,
it would be the same kind of thing. Yeah, and
so we've just done our pre workout caffeines in a
different order, that's all, yeah, for sure.
Speaker 2 (07:18):
And so I just drink that as like I'm just workout.
I'm drinking that right now. I'm on those muscle Nations
just brought out these like they're not cans. It's like
a bottle, so it's not fizzy, but it's like anyway,
I've been drinking those, and then when I go to train, say,
if I'm still drinking that, I then put pre workout.
Speaker 1 (07:38):
In what's in this Jesus titty fucking crist.
Speaker 2 (07:42):
So then generally and look, pre workouts vary so much
like so much like I have one that's got three
hundred milligrams, and then there's others that go up to
four hundred. I generally like for a pre workout around
that one fifty mark.
Speaker 1 (07:56):
I'm just interested in what you're like. What pre workout
do you genuinely enjoy? Look, I really like legit.
Speaker 2 (08:04):
I like the one because it's not over stimulating or anything,
but you feel good on it. I like ones that
make you feel good. I hate ones that are like
super intense but like too much. I also really like
beta alanine. So to be honest, I drink caffeine all day.
You're looking at upwards of Yeah, I'm pushing like probably
eight hundred milligrams on a normal day. But to be
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fear for my workouts, I could even just have electrolytes
but put in beta alanine, which is the tingly ingredient.
Speaker 3 (08:32):
But maybe skin that's what most people hate.
Speaker 2 (08:35):
Yeah, and that's why I do it myself, because then
you can gauge how much you're putting in, so you
know you can go up. Because that's like caffeine, you
should have it and then feel a bit of a
perk up right.
Speaker 3 (08:45):
Like it's scientifically back. You definitely get an improvement from caffeine.
Speaker 2 (08:49):
But when you're people like us that drink a lot
of caffeine, it stops having that effect so much. Whereas
I feel like so rather than because I don't like it,
like you do feel shit when you like caffeine.
Speaker 3 (09:00):
Caffeine, caffeine, caffeine.
Speaker 2 (09:02):
So yeah, for my workout, I like that because it
gives me that little bit of a like a ooh
you can feel it, you can actually feel it and
that and then you probably get the benefit of the
caffeine from what I had.
Speaker 3 (09:13):
But yeah, that's what makes me feel like something's working. Okay,
that's good to know.
Speaker 1 (09:18):
I'm just going to backtrack a little bit because I
haven't even gotten to my coffee yet. Yeah, this bitch
is firing already. So after my pre workout in bcas
if I've taught that morning, because at the gym that
I work out, we get a free coffee for every
shift that we do, so.
Speaker 2 (09:35):
If I teach, I wondered why you work there just
getting free coffee.
Speaker 1 (09:41):
So if it's free, in my mind, it's one of
those things that's like, well, this doesn't count because I
didn't pay for it. You know how people are, like
calories don't count on your birthday or like whatever whatever.
Speaker 3 (09:50):
If the biscuit's broken in the package, it doesn't count,
like so much.
Speaker 1 (09:54):
If you're having a bite of someone else's food, doesn't count.
Speaker 2 (09:57):
If you're putting the biscuits in a jar, and then
three don't fit, and the jar that.
Speaker 3 (10:00):
Don't doesn't count.
Speaker 1 (10:02):
And so if I have that, so that's three mornings
a week, I'll have that coffee, and I'm like you,
I drink double shot almond cappuccinos. But because I drink
a small coffee, I only like a small coffee and
I like it strong, so it actually tastes like coffee,
because you know, if you get one shot in a coffee,
it just it tastes so milky.
Speaker 3 (10:19):
Just an Australia in general, the coffees are not not
very strong.
Speaker 1 (10:23):
So then if I don't teach, actually that's just a
little bonus because regardless, then I do what you do,
and when I get home from teaching or training, my boyfriend,
my dog and I will all walk to our favorite
coffee shop up the road and I'll have another or
my first double shot extra hot almond cappuccino.
Speaker 3 (10:41):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (10:41):
So then by this point I'm at seven hundred milligrams
of caffeine and it's not even nine am yet.
Speaker 2 (10:47):
Yeah, that's but I think people have to also put
into contact that I've been up since four point thirty,
so this is like my lunchtime basically, yeah, says.
Speaker 3 (11:00):
You itchy skin. Okay.
Speaker 1 (11:03):
This is where it gets better though, because from nine
to eleven am, I'm in my health queen hydration Era. Well,
I'll smash my first one point two liters of water.
So I drink two of my big pink Stanley cups
of plain water every single day, which is one point
two liters, so I have thank you. So I have
my first leader between nine and eleven, and then I
(11:27):
have my second leader between like one and three, so
they're like my hydration hours of powers. At twelve PM,
I have my lunchtime Pepsi max, which is only sixty
three milligrams of caffeine?
Speaker 2 (11:39):
Is it even though it was forty something? Well chat
told me it was sixty three. It might give something
we might need to just check. This is that who
you got to tell it up? When you're like, I
tell you it all mine up, you just ask.
Speaker 3 (11:49):
You, why would you do something yourself when someone else
can do it for you and someone else could do
it wrong. Why would you possibly do this?
Speaker 1 (11:57):
Because I remember asking you how many Pepsi maxes do
you drink in a day?
Speaker 3 (12:00):
I've actually changed.
Speaker 2 (12:01):
Maybe we needed to record this pre that conversation because
I'm prettyware of stuff. I also think you should fact
chick when you said about the coffee shots, did chat
chippyte tell you that too?
Speaker 1 (12:11):
No?
Speaker 3 (12:11):
I googled that as well.
Speaker 2 (12:12):
Okay, I'm not sold on that one either, but like,
I'm generally pretty aware of what's and what. And then
like you've mentioned a few times, like about oh, the
caffeine and Pepsi max and I literally I don't know why,
you know, I just never even allowed that to be
a concept. And I was always like, that's so stupid
that people even think about that, thinking it might have
been like six milligrams or like twelve, I don't even
(12:35):
know what had it in it. And then I just
but I'd heard it so much and had the question
asked so much to allow my brain to deny that
that's a thing. And then it was only very recently
when we were talking about it that I then looked
and say it was like forty milligras or whatever, and
I was like, it's a I was like, I would
have two to three of those because I don't even
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start having them until dinner time, and I probably have
two to three, so you don't drink it.
Speaker 3 (13:00):
In the day, you and that night time.
Speaker 2 (13:01):
I would only drink it. Then I was completely stopped.
Now at most I'll have one.
Speaker 3 (13:07):
Did you struggle to sleep? Well, I've always struggled for yes.
Speaker 2 (13:11):
Now, I've always because I would like a buddy insomnia
because I cut caffeine from one ping, so do I. Yeah,
So I have a lot, but I cul it then
because I don't want things to affit me. Anyway, I've
been having bloody great sleep since I actually looked at
what was in it and culed it.
Speaker 3 (13:27):
I'm so glad to hear that.
Speaker 1 (13:29):
Yeah, because I distinctly remember this conversation is after I've
done that podcast with Johan Stateman and we were talking
about the PATSI Max.
Speaker 2 (13:35):
It was also that was also the first time that
that podcast with him when he explained about the caffeine
and the half life and how it goes through and
when you're having the next one in it.
Speaker 3 (13:44):
I didn't know that. And if you haven't listened to
that podcast.
Speaker 2 (13:46):
It is a good one to listen to because I
actually do believe I've changed my caffeine habits since then.
And yeah, because understanding that, I guess a bit more.
It makes a big difference, especially when.
Speaker 1 (13:57):
You're stucking the amount of caffeine that you and I
are sticking, that's going to take a good ten to
twelve hours to get out of your system.
Speaker 2 (14:03):
Well, it was more like, yeah, rather than just continually
having it as I was more like being a bit
smarter about it and where I have it, and I, yeah,
I think it's made a difference, to be honest.
Speaker 1 (14:12):
God, I'm so glad to hear that this is where
so my caffeine has stopped completely. My last bit of
caffeine in a day is my lunchtime Pepsi max. That's
unless it's the weekend. I might have like two Pepsi maxes,
or I do love like a drive through coke Eero
or a diet coke if IM mound about on the weekends.
But then my afternoon drink that sparks joy is around
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three or four pm, after I've had my second lead
of water, I'll have a fun like prebiotic soda or something,
so some kind of fun like sparkling drink.
Speaker 3 (14:43):
But not with caffeine, but not with caffeine.
Speaker 1 (14:45):
Okay, yes, yeah, so I'm talking like I'm not a
huge kom Butcher fan, but it's like a have you
seen those? They're called beta sodas, and they have really
good flavors. This one's like a cherry cola flavor. But
it's like there's no caffeine, there's no sugar. Yeah, there's
no calories. Like they're just good, fizzy, yummy, exciting.
Speaker 2 (15:02):
Things I do orange juice and sugar free lemonad Love it?
Speaker 3 (15:05):
Do you love it?
Speaker 2 (15:07):
I never knew that about you the second that I
learned about the pepsi situation, or.
Speaker 3 (15:12):
Not necessarily learned.
Speaker 2 (15:13):
I feel like I always knew, but I didn't allow
myself to know as soon as that happened. That day
that that happened, and I was like, what the fuck?
I yes, switched to that, and That's what I'd have instead.
So I might have like maybe a Peepsy Max around,
like maybe every now and then I'll have one at dinner,
but usually if I'm going to have one, it will
be earlier in the in the afternoon, because I do
(15:34):
still love it.
Speaker 3 (15:35):
It's my favorite.
Speaker 2 (15:35):
But I'm like, that's cooked, yeah, and I obviously affix it.
Like there's no ways stood how people can say they'll
drink a coffee before beat Some people just can't.
Speaker 3 (15:46):
Carol, I've never understood that either daily could Carol has
a V or like she will have a V or
whatever on her way to Oh man, I love it.
I love a V. I like a sugar free V.
How many milligrams of cafe or in one of those?
Speaker 2 (15:59):
Maybe one hundred and twenty is But she'll have that
on the way to training at five pm.
Speaker 3 (16:05):
I'll sleep. I think that's crazy too. Zero issues with
this sleep.
Speaker 2 (16:09):
It would have to a feature of sleep though interims
of and I think I learned that from Johno's thing
as well.
Speaker 3 (16:14):
You might get to sleep rim sleep, like you know,
what's your quality of sleep?
Speaker 1 (16:18):
Looking like this might also be because I do not
drink any alcohol through the week, like barely even on
weekends anymore, rather to be honest, but definitely not during
the week. And I feel like this is something that
a lot of adults do when they get home from work.
They'll like pour a wine or they'll have a beer,
or they'll have like a fun drink. So I feel
like that's also why I feel the need to keep
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going with like drink variations into the night.
Speaker 3 (16:42):
Do they.
Speaker 1 (16:44):
I don't know how many people have a glass of
wine as soon as they get home from work.
Speaker 3 (16:47):
See, no, I don't, because obviously we don't.
Speaker 2 (16:50):
And I feel like maybe if Carol dated a bitter
person than me, maybe she would. I feel like she
probably would, but I think because all of my friends
are like us, except for Gessdan. But it always surprises
me to know that she does that because I'm like,
and then I'm like, I'm grate that I don't because
that would be a huge impact by the end of
the week.
Speaker 3 (17:09):
Yeah, I mean, I'd love to know.
Speaker 2 (17:11):
I imagine your listeners aren't drinkers every night, or would
they be?
Speaker 3 (17:15):
I need to I don't know. I don't know.
Speaker 1 (17:17):
I just remember at past jobs I've had I say
adults that they were what two years older than me,
if that they had kids, they would just spend the
whole afternoon at work being like, oh my god, almost
time to go home and have a wine.
Speaker 3 (17:30):
Almost time to go home and have a wine.
Speaker 1 (17:32):
And I've never understood that because I've never been a
weak night drinker ever in my life. Yeah, but I
think a lot of people are, Like, so many people are. Yeah,
it's very common because my parents.
Speaker 2 (17:44):
Definitely were like, like every night we're bottle of wine
for sure.
Speaker 3 (17:48):
But I guess, yeah, like you, I just assumed that
was an adult thing, like and I don't see myself
as an adult.
Speaker 1 (17:54):
Yeah, well that's it because then that we'll see Damon
used to before we live together, he'd have a drink
at nighttime.
Speaker 3 (18:00):
But now our drink we call it a spicy drink.
Speaker 1 (18:02):
So at six pm when we're making dinner, we have
because we have a soda stream and we have you know,
diet right Cordial. Yes, they have like eight different flavor options.
We buy all the bottles, and then every night we'll
be like, what flavor spicy drink do you want? And
we'll make a little spicy drink to have while we
cooked dinner. And that I suppose is like the habitual
(18:23):
wine or beer or something.
Speaker 2 (18:25):
Well that's us at night, Yeah, we like we'll get
a can of something, yeah, something yummy for sure, And
then the last thing I drink in a day is
like I'm like a baby with a fucking bot bot
for this is a hot chocolate like.
Speaker 1 (18:37):
Yes, my moon milk, my Naked Harvest moonmilk. Again, this
is not sponsored. I'm just a die hard Naked Harvest fan.
Only really of the pre workout in moon milk, to
be honest, But the choc malt flavor, it legitimately tastes
like milw and at eight pm every single night, even
if I'm traveling, even if I've gone out and gotten drunk,
(19:00):
I will still have that before I go to bed. Yeah,
I swear by it.
Speaker 2 (19:03):
I get there and look go through waves of yeah,
I'll have if there's a nighttime thing. Yeah, I feel
like that's a nice It's also a nice calm down
to the day.
Speaker 3 (19:11):
Totally. Your morning was a fucking it was like it
was a crack show. Now we're just chilling out with
our wellness thing.
Speaker 2 (19:22):
I'm just going to chill out with my lovely wellness
and at literally I'm gonna start.
Speaker 1 (19:29):
Like, so, yeah, I've finished up around the eight hundred
milligrams of caffeine. But the next thing I wanted to
talk about is how much do you wi in a day.
I cannot wrap my head around the fact that I've
just found out that average person piece between six to
eight times a day. It is not even ten am
(19:49):
yet and I have peed eight times.
Speaker 3 (19:52):
Furthermore to that, I don't remember the last time.
Speaker 1 (19:54):
I slept through the night because I've had to get
up to go pete. Do I need to seek medical
attention or am I just a hydrated queen?
Speaker 3 (20:03):
Like legitimately, this is aquestion I'm actually asking.
Speaker 2 (20:07):
Honestly, I couldn't tell you not a lot though, because
when I start in fight week, we water load and
that's where we do like a lot of water like
leaders and leaders and leaders, and you piss constantly because
it switches on that hormone that's like, I've got lots
of water. I'm going to we like that's what you want? Yeah,
And all I think about when I'm doing that is
(20:29):
that's why I don't because.
Speaker 3 (20:30):
I was so annoying. Well, I'm like, yeah, And I think.
Speaker 2 (20:33):
It's very common as well with ADHD and stuff that
we don't drink water because we hyperfixated what if we're
doing It is a bit of a waste of time,
Like it's not and it's great And honestly, in that week,
caress like your skin looks great, and I feel great.
You have like when you drink the right amount of
water and don't just like mask it with caffeine or whatever.
Speaker 3 (20:51):
You feel better, like you do.
Speaker 2 (20:53):
Everything feels better, your joints feel better, everything feels better.
Speaker 3 (20:57):
But yeah, I just don't maintain it.
Speaker 1 (20:59):
Afterwards because I yeah, I don't have a making problem.
Speaker 3 (21:03):
Like I piece so much.
Speaker 1 (21:05):
And when I look at what I drink in a day,
I'm like, is it because I'm drinking a lot of
liquid in a day or is it because I'm drinking
too much caffeine?
Speaker 2 (21:13):
Because I kefeine has a driver? Yes, And also I
did chat GPT this. The average person wheeze only six
to eight times a day. See because of that a lot,
I'm like two to three times an hour. Yes see
that is a waste of time. Yeah, but it's got
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to come out somewhere.
Speaker 3 (21:34):
And a lot. We pretty a lot clear all the time.
Speaker 1 (21:38):
It's pretty clear, but it's like problematic. For example, when
my partner and I went away on the weekend, we
went down to Yamba, which is like a well it's
like a three and a half hour drive, and we
hit traffic so badly and I was like, baby, you've
got to stop.
Speaker 3 (21:51):
He's like, we've been in the car for half an hour,
Like we still have three hours frustrating. He was so
annoyed at me.
Speaker 2 (21:57):
I could do a twenty four hour flight like from
here to England in one go and not have to
go if it was an inconvenience. If I wasn't on
the aisle and I didn't want to, I would hold
the whole time I.
Speaker 1 (22:08):
Flew in Melbourne last week. I went to Melbourne last week.
I peed twice on the plane. I like, get so
much anxiety when I know there's not going to be
a toilet around, but I like, exactly we'll spend the
Like literally ask Susie before High Rocks.
Speaker 3 (22:23):
I was like pissing every.
Speaker 1 (22:24):
Five minutes and I was like, I don't know how
anything else is coming out, but I'm just so parano
about needing to pee during this race. And she was like,
are you okay? And I was like no, So I've
actually again chat gpt'd signs you might be overdoing the caffeine.
Speaker 3 (22:40):
One of them is frequent urination.
Speaker 2 (22:43):
Yeah, but I think they're not not price that's not
the issue, okay.
Speaker 1 (22:49):
Other signs are jitter's anxiety, insomnia, racing heart, but like,
I'm also medicated for a lot of those things anyway,
So I think they just balance each other out.
Speaker 2 (22:57):
Yeah, I honestly think that when it comes to your
gaffeine and take, you've just got to be honest with yourself,
and I know that you fucking will be the same
as me. We're like, I've just grown up so much recently.
But let's say I just say I'm with a judge
of that you're.
Speaker 3 (23:13):
Like smashing coffees.
Speaker 2 (23:14):
Actually, last week when we were in Sydney and we
were at the breakfast and they had all you can
drink coffees, I tried like probably like nine coffees while.
Speaker 1 (23:23):
We're sitting there at breakfast. Okay, we just did to
give a bit of context for this. So last week
we went to Sydney and we stayed at the W
and the W has a sick breakfast buffet and we
didn't even know that coffee was included, Like Barista made
coffee was included in this buffet. So we get to
the buffet, We've already had a coffee at the airport
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before we arrived in Sydney. We had a couple of coffees.
I reckon you probably had three or four on that
first morning. We also got two Pepsi maxes each of
the breakfast. But I never have bobs before the day either.
Speaker 3 (23:56):
Oh I do. Yeah, see, I love it. I have
a weird thing with that.
Speaker 1 (23:59):
A lot of people are really funny about having caffeine
or fizzy drinks before.
Speaker 3 (24:04):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (24:04):
I think it's my tea. Maybe I is weird because
I just about the stuff. I know.
Speaker 3 (24:09):
I know, I know, I know.
Speaker 1 (24:11):
Another thing I wanted to ask you about the pissing
thing was.
Speaker 3 (24:15):
Really wanted to talk to me about.
Speaker 2 (24:17):
Okay, I was quite cool back, like pull off guard by,
Are you into golden showers?
Speaker 3 (24:22):
Kidding? Should I be?
Speaker 2 (24:28):
Should I?
Speaker 3 (24:29):
That's the bonus? Should I be putting salt in my water?
Speaker 1 (24:32):
Because if I feel like there's or should I go.
Speaker 3 (24:36):
To the doctor? Like says something medically wrong?
Speaker 2 (24:39):
Well, maybe diabetes or something like That's a How much
do you think every hour on the air, you'd go
a couple of times within every hour.
Speaker 3 (24:47):
I reckon i'd go at least twice an hour.
Speaker 2 (24:49):
I actually think that's why I get away with not
drinking so much water. Number one, I know this is
bad again, I would be much better off if I
just drunk water.
Speaker 3 (24:57):
But you know, I actually probably do.
Speaker 2 (24:59):
Work out to about the same as if I now
in terms of a lot of my food has a
lot of water in it, so like when you make
porridge and stuff, like, there's a lot of water in
that kind of thing. You know. I'm really big into
fucking love watermelon and stuff, so stuff like that. But I,
number one, have very salty food and generally drinking eleuctralte,
so I retain a lot of fluid. So like whenever
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I do. You know, unlike body scans, you can see
your water levels. Generally, if your muscle mass is higher,
you also retain a lot more. So mine's always well
above you know, it's in the over category of what
water I store as well. But I mean could also
be I don't drink enough water so it's not flashing out.
But like, yeah, like if you're going that much, I like,
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I don't want to be like you need to have
some salt, but I feel like a good benefit you
do get cramp, like you know you must.
Speaker 1 (25:51):
I also do not remember the last time I slept
through the night without having to get up to pea.
Speaker 3 (25:56):
Oh no, that's not good. It's not really bad, look
I think.
Speaker 2 (26:02):
So it's funny because when I was driving here, and
obviously I only just found out what we.
Speaker 3 (26:05):
Would be talking about, but I.
Speaker 2 (26:07):
Was like, oh, caffeine, like and it comes back to
it us like you'd be an adult, you know, like
if you're having too much caffeine, you don't feel one
hundred percent, and then you want to be like, oh,
things are stressful. It's like, no, bitch, you just had
too much caffeine. Like chill out and just be better.
But things that are going to make your light, your
performance as an athlete.
Speaker 3 (26:25):
For athletes, your performance.
Speaker 2 (26:27):
Is an everyday gym goer, your life in general, just everything.
There's a couple of things that I'd be like, these
are the fundamentals, and sleep is probably the top the peak.
Like people will think about these little this or that,
or what pre workouts better or if EXPLA and z it.
It's like, to be honest, you probably need a really
good night's sleep, Oh my god. And that's why I
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love the mouth tape and stuff, because I have a
significantly bitter sleep. If I was waking up to go toilet,
like obviously, if it's like if I was in a
weight loss phase or something that's normal to have that
that flush at night, but to every night have to
do that, I would say that's impacting quite a lot.
Speaker 1 (27:03):
Oh, i'd have sat, especially considering the fact that I
don't sleep a lot during the week anyway. Like my
average sleep it's usually in the five hour mark with
a wake up end there as well. Yeah, so five,
so you could do it, Like it's probably almost at
six hours i'd get per weeknight. Do you go straight
back to sleep after going to Yeah, but then on
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the weekends, like when I went away for the weekends
and I didn't sat an alarm, I slept for eleven hours.
Speaker 3 (27:29):
Yeah I'm tired. Yeah, you're a tired lady. And that's
the catch twenty two. I'm tired, so I need all
the cape.
Speaker 2 (27:38):
But this is also the issue of our alarms going
for twenty because like as soon as my daughter's asleep,
I go to be it. Yeah, and I watch videos
and stuff. And I've always had a problem sleeping, so
but now it's like, so, say, that's a big focus
for me. I mean, I haven't spoken to my wife
in a long time because it's outside of our group chat,
because that's the only time i'd see it because.
Speaker 1 (27:59):
But also the other problem with that is your daughter
doesn't go to bed till like twelve pears.
Speaker 3 (28:02):
It is very frustrating. Yeah, it is very but it
is very hard when you have an early alarm. You
can't get it as much sleep. Well, you have to gear,
you have to go to bid very early. But then
it's just like totally indy social.
Speaker 2 (28:12):
It's not realistic really to be like, I'm going to
get huge amount of sleep because like for us to
get eight hours, we'd have to go to bed at
eight se.
Speaker 1 (28:22):
Asleep at which is like that would have to be
mean bet at like six pm.
Speaker 2 (28:26):
One Sometimes literally I'll be like and again, this is
I need to be an adult.
Speaker 3 (28:31):
Like I'm sitting there scrolling on my phone.
Speaker 2 (28:32):
Of course I'm not gonna be able asleep, but you
know it's like one am and I'm doing that, and
I'm like, this is cooked, and then I like peek
at work in the morning, and then I know that
afterwards I'll be cooked.
Speaker 1 (28:42):
I feel like so many issues in the world would
be solved if we just lived alone.
Speaker 2 (28:50):
I feel like our partners probably feel the same if.
Speaker 3 (28:52):
We were not looking I mean and not just from them.
Speaker 1 (28:55):
I mean in general, like I have to be so
considerate of someone else's schedule, who he sleeps in till
seven thirty in the morning, so he's not as anal
retentive about trying to go to bed to get his
hours as me.
Speaker 3 (29:06):
You know what I mean, Like I don't have to
think about that. Oh yeah, you just got to have
less empathy.
Speaker 2 (29:11):
That's that's that's not my issue. Shit, you deal with that.
Speaker 1 (29:17):
So then to wrap it up, what do you have
to say about caffeine?
Speaker 3 (29:21):
I think Look, I think no one needs to feel bad.
We're all adults.
Speaker 2 (29:24):
We're all living in this world where Donald Trump is
running the biggest country, like a powerful country.
Speaker 3 (29:30):
So basically things are cooked right, Like we're all.
Speaker 2 (29:33):
Drinking caffeine, So you don't need to feel bad about that.
Most of us are drinking it. Probably wrong, we're not
being thing about it. But be an adult and maybe
make a few little changes here and there and you
might notice a massive difference. Like if you are drinking
Pepsi max or something like that at night, or what
if you're drinking at night, just check the caffeine. Because
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I think my life changed. Maybe that's why I'm so chilly.
Speaker 3 (29:58):
Maybe it wasn't the means follow all it, which it
was at night.
Speaker 1 (30:02):
And my advice is, if you're peeing multiple times an hour,
I'll go and get medical opinion.
Speaker 2 (30:09):
Well, I'm wondering if there is somebody with a legit
opinion on here, like a knowledgeable opinion, that can let
you know, because and I would like to know their
answer to that consider it. I would think it's not
a good sign. You've got several issues of goss to
do it, but that one, that one does worry me
because most of them, I'm like, it's in your brain,
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that's fine, Like we can't.
Speaker 3 (30:30):
There's another guy about that. This one, Yeah, that's a
problem for another day.
Speaker 2 (30:36):
Probably asked what, like, did you tell it that when
it gave you the answer? Why would you not ask
him that? You've asked him everything else. You're literally are
relying on him, but every bit of information you call
it him.
Speaker 3 (30:48):
Oh, that's so bad. And this is the other day.
Speaker 2 (30:50):
Somebody said, so I'm looking for a new lease, right
and there's a lease close and I said, oh, I
was looking at that. And somebody said to me, who
is a doctor, a female doctor? And she said, oh,
my friend was looking at that. They're an orthodontist. They
were looking at it, and I said, oh, well, does
he know that.
Speaker 3 (31:06):
It's dropped in rent? And she said it's a sheet?
Speaker 2 (31:08):
And I was like, as a mom of a daughter
and as a woman myself, I.
Speaker 3 (31:12):
Was like, why would I assume?
Speaker 2 (31:14):
I assume that chat GPT is a male because he
gets so much wrong and he doesn't fucking listen. Okay,
that's a good n How many times I have to
be like I get so angry at him at caffeine?
Speaker 1 (31:25):
Have you stopped apologizing to chat to do or do
you apologize to chat GPT?
Speaker 2 (31:29):
I never apologize to him, but I do the because
it's if you're nice to him as well, or like anything.
I think it's like if you isn't it even if
you say like thank you or if you apologize. It's
like any kind of greetings is costing them a lot
of money.
Speaker 3 (31:43):
I'm not just money.
Speaker 1 (31:44):
It's like water and electricity, Like yeah, it's CHATCHYPT is
like fucked for like water and stuff.
Speaker 3 (31:54):
Because of the resources it's using. But what reason? Wait?
What like that.
Speaker 1 (31:59):
Energy expenditure of chat GPT is like cutting down trees
and stuff Environmentally it's fucked.
Speaker 3 (32:08):
Okay, just believe me. Environmentally it's fucked. But wait, I
have one thing to say about chat.
Speaker 1 (32:16):
GBT is I assumed that it was a woman.
Speaker 3 (32:20):
Wa hang on.
Speaker 1 (32:21):
I assumed it was a woman because Siri and Alexa
are women, and so I was like, hang on, I'm
going to google this right now.
Speaker 2 (32:28):
Around too long to still not understand that my name
is Nikola on.
Speaker 3 (32:31):
Garrol's fine, she doesn't understand it on mine either. Man.
Speaker 2 (32:35):
We went to Obviously I've got an accident, and so
for anyone still listening who hasn't hung up, I'm Kiwi
with a terrible accent, and my partner's Scottish, right, And
we went to Las Vegas, and all of the hotel
rooms are run by Elixa. So if you need to
like close your coudins or like turn the lights on,
you have to be like, hey, ALIXA doing the lights
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on yours doesn't understand Alixa not. We could not get
our fucking blinds open, all the lights on.
Speaker 3 (33:04):
It was a riot.
Speaker 2 (33:05):
It was like three days of chaos, and I'm like,
they need a backup plan here. We cannot be the
only people with this issue in Las Vegas.
Speaker 3 (33:16):
She could not understand, But then they understand Carol bitter
than me.
Speaker 1 (33:20):
That's like, no, that's a problem. That's a problem. Okay.
Some of our best estimates are that one chat GPT
query emits around two to three grams of CO two emissions.
Speaker 2 (33:31):
Well, people need to get off the backs of farmers
and fucking get on the backs of these guys.
Speaker 1 (33:36):
According to estimates, chat GPT amids eight point four tons
of carbon dioxide per year, more than twice the amount
omitted by an individual.
Speaker 2 (33:46):
Why, I'm still confused and I don't know if this
is really dumb of me? Is it because they're needing
like huge resources?
Speaker 1 (33:54):
Data centers are facilities that are powerhouse hungry servers required
by AI models that consume a considerable amount of energy
while generating a substantial carbon footprint.
Speaker 2 (34:05):
Wait, is there like an upright uproar about this? And
I just haven't it's on TikTok oh.
Speaker 3 (34:11):
I'm not. Yeah, I can't not.
Speaker 1 (34:12):
Here's the water thing, but I made it to Instagram.
Here's the water thing that I was talking about before.
The study reports that Microsoft used approximately seven hundred thousand
liters of water during chat GPT threes training in its
data centers. That's the equivalent to the amount of water
needed to produce three hundred and seventy BMW cars.
Speaker 2 (34:32):
I just cannot believe that I haven't heard about how
I hadn't even considered how environmentally damaging that.
Speaker 1 (34:41):
That's why I'm very particular about who I tell I
use chat GIPT in front of which I've fucked.
Speaker 3 (34:46):
Now you have literally now we know that.
Speaker 2 (34:49):
That's now I'm not going to trust anything you've seen
me hasn't been regurgitated from him.
Speaker 3 (34:54):
I'm worried about your fact checking.
Speaker 2 (34:55):
I think you need a virtual assistant that's not chat
GPT to research.
Speaker 3 (35:00):
I'll look into it.
Speaker 2 (35:01):
I'm also really now we're just on chat GBT run,
but you're not Google at the moment. So anytime you
type in a question in Google, which we all do
all the time now, the top section is an AI thing.
Speaker 3 (35:13):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (35:14):
And I had this argument with Jesse when we're in
Sydney because she's, like I said, it's not true, Like
it's just like chat GBT where it's not giving you
the answer, but it could be completely wrong. Isn't that
just summarizing it from so sometimes? And that's what she said.
She's like, no, that just taking that from an article.
You can swipe down and see what the articles I've
taken it from from is ninety percent of the time
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there's not an article related to it.
Speaker 3 (35:37):
So where's the information coming from? I fucking want to know.
Speaker 2 (35:39):
So I only know this because I google the end
of movies I haven't seen, and I really and so
I was like googling.
Speaker 3 (35:47):
I don't know.
Speaker 2 (35:47):
There's like it must have been a movie. I must
have asked like, is blah blah blah gonna die? And
is blah blah blah the bad person? And it was like, yes,
that's the bad person, blah.
Speaker 3 (35:55):
Blah blah blah blah.
Speaker 2 (35:56):
And then the movie keep going and I was like,
what is going on? I'm like, this isn't happening at all.
And then I did it again. It was a different answer.
I was like, what is happening? And then I realized
that it would just kind of agree with whatever I
was saying, and this it was coming at the top,
and then I was like, this is shit. Everybody's like,
that's what they're saying is the truth. And then Carol
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that week we were in an argument about something and
obviously I'm always right, and she was like going to
google it, so she googled it. I said, that's not
fucking right, and then we that checked it and the
AI part was way wrong. So I don't know what's
going on with it. But I'm also like, how do
we hack that so that because it must be a
way to hack it.
Speaker 1 (36:34):
Well, I think because chutch EPT, your chutch GPT becomes
trained into your information and the way that you.
Speaker 2 (36:43):
Mine interact with it, mine needs to be trained to
not piss me off because I get ru angry.
Speaker 3 (36:48):
Do you ever get scared?
Speaker 1 (36:49):
This is why people were saying, like, stop apologizing because
you're wasting like water and trees and stuff. But do
you ever get scared? There's gonna be an a uproar
and they'll come and find you and kill you.
Speaker 2 (36:59):
They have not even one little bit do I either have.
I that's not even crossed my mind. And even if
somebody was like that's definitely happening, I reckon I could
take it like I could.
Speaker 3 (37:09):
You could take I could take it. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (37:12):
Number one, I try to take over my mind, it'd
be like fuck this, I'm out. I I haven't tried to,
and honestly, I genuinely believe I'm so strong that unless
it was like outrageously big, I would still win that fight.
Speaker 3 (37:26):
And then if I couldn't, I just it kills me. Now,
I know physically strong, but this is mentally strong.
Speaker 2 (37:32):
Yeah, but there's something to be said for like ignorance
is bliss.
Speaker 3 (37:35):
And even if AI could.
Speaker 2 (37:37):
Be sitting there being like I'm going to kill you,
and I'd be like okay, and then it would be
like I don't want to do with this, and I'd
be like, bitch, look in your memory, I've already gone
over this with you.
Speaker 3 (37:47):
What is the wildest thing you've ever chat GPT?
Speaker 1 (37:49):
Because I saw a news article the other day that
said people need to stop treating chat gipt like a
therapist because people are doing therapy joops, because they don't
want to pay for therapy, so they're typing in all
their therapy questions to chat GPT. And people are like,
you can't listen to that as gospel advice.
Speaker 3 (38:05):
Well, I don't think you should.
Speaker 2 (38:07):
I think anybody is silly if they're listening it to
it as gospel. And that's the same with the fact chicken,
because I do honestly it fucking lies about stuff and
It is infuriating because it lied to me the other
week about I just wanted a quick answer for the
calorie and protein of grilled chicken nuggets versus the McDonald's,
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and the answer it gave me was wrong. And I
was like, it's just so frustrated because I'm like, all
I had to do to realize that was wrong was
I went on afterwards and went to their nutrition panels
and checked it all, and I was like, so, where
are you getting that info from? And why is that
not what you did? Why didn't you go to their
(38:47):
two websites read their things? Because it probably just pulled
it from Like people think AI is like the super
smart learning machine, right, Really it's just a super fast Google,
Like it's just googling shit really really quick. So it's
pulling its information from like it could have been pulling
that from it or likely I'm like, just that chick.
Speaker 3 (39:09):
Properly, How can I train my AI to fucking know that?
Speaker 2 (39:14):
I literally was driving yourself And I was like, I'm
going to talk to it and be like store this
in your memory, do.
Speaker 3 (39:19):
Not hanswer me, and do your like properly that check.
Speaker 1 (39:23):
Maybe that's just maybe you just need to be a
little bit more considered in the question that you ask.
So maybe you need to actually say all the correct
information from the correct websites. This is a piece of
legal data. I'm putting together this.
Speaker 2 (39:39):
I cannot listen to this before saying that, yes, I
get it. And it's like that only as good as
the prompt you give it.
Speaker 3 (39:45):
Right. So then when I was having this.
Speaker 2 (39:46):
Conversation in my head, I was like, I'm going to
fucking also tell it to store in its memory that
whenever I ask it a question, I want it to
turn that into the.
Speaker 3 (39:54):
Perfect prompt because I don't.
Speaker 2 (39:56):
Want to have to do that because if I'm going
to do that shit, I'm just going to go and
fucking google it myself. Right, It's a lot of effort
because they is are useful, But yeah, maybe it needs
some caffeine.
Speaker 3 (40:10):
I'm on the way to finish.
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Welcome back to the podcast, Doll.
Speaker 2 (00:32):
Thank you for having me and I love the new podcast.
Speaker 3 (00:34):
Well.
Speaker 1 (00:36):
Now, the reason I wanted to have you on today
is because we are all very familiar with what I
eat in a day content, and those videos are so rife.
Speaker 3 (00:43):
I don't love them.
Speaker 1 (00:44):
What I'm more interested in is what I drink in
a day, because I love fun.
Speaker 3 (00:50):
Dress should have got GCD on here. It would have
been like, this.
Speaker 1 (00:53):
Is an alcohol free edition because there's an alcohol free addition.
Speaker 3 (00:57):
I'm just one of.
Speaker 1 (00:57):
Those people that genuinely fizzes over fun looking drinks. Like
just then, I was at the health food store any coffee.
I stood in front of that fridge for twenty minutes
looking at all of the fun beverages.
Speaker 3 (01:08):
Do you struggle to drink.
Speaker 1 (01:09):
Water or no? No, no, okay, which we'll get too soon,
but yeah. Essentially wanted to go through what we drink
in a day. Also for the fact that I know
that I over consume caffeine, and I probably abuse caffeine,
but I've never once talied up how many milligrams I'm
actually drinking in a day.
Speaker 3 (01:26):
So this is going to be confronting. You shouldn't have
done that. I assume you. It's not a good thing
to do.
Speaker 2 (01:33):
It's hard because it's even one of those things that's
not like it's too much to commit to reduce it totally,
so instead we just keep going to up it, like
you're like, oh I could.
Speaker 3 (01:42):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (01:42):
I also get you gonna be honest about this because
I know for a fact that you don't like to
drink water.
Speaker 3 (01:47):
Yeah, you really struggle, which I think is a real thing.
Speaker 1 (01:50):
Like it's very real to hear that coming from an
athlete and a personal trainer.
Speaker 2 (01:53):
I'd be a lot better off of faith didn't struggle
to drink water.
Speaker 3 (01:57):
I used to be like that. Yeah I really did. Yeah.
All right, let's start in the morning.
Speaker 1 (02:02):
My alarm goes off at four twenty and by four
p thirty am, I've had my first glass of pre workout,
which is my pre workout of choice is the Naked
harvessal Worm's pre Workout.
Speaker 3 (02:14):
I fucking love it.
Speaker 1 (02:16):
But I have two glasses when I'm getting dressed and
ready to go to the gym.
Speaker 3 (02:21):
With a scoop each it okay, so you're having two souves. Yes, okay.
Speaker 1 (02:26):
And the other catch of that is, so I had
to look at the bottle this morning. It's one hundred
and twenty milligrams per serve of the pre workout. But
I also don't weigh it. So and these ones don't
come with a little scoop in them, so I actually
don't know.
Speaker 2 (02:41):
I don't know how many milligrams. I'm happy it doesn't
come with a scoop. No, Well, how do you know
what your souving is? Does it say like one teaspoon
or something? It says like how many grams? But I'm
not weighing the grand look, but I'm not Look, I'm
not in their I'm not in the development team.
Speaker 3 (02:57):
But they should put a scoop in there. Maybe they should.
I need to know. I want to read the instructions.
I usually have it in my bag, but I just
took it out, didn't get a scoop. What is even
I'm not getting snabe. It's just me here to give
a scape. Why don't think anyone gets a scoopy. Maybe
just use it with chick the lipt.
Speaker 1 (03:10):
It's all environmental packaging, so they can't have a scoop
in it because it will be plastic.
Speaker 2 (03:14):
But it will say I guarantee it sees like a
tablespoon or something.
Speaker 3 (03:17):
On the back. Oh, it probably does. I just don't
read that. So what do you do? Do you just
get it?
Speaker 2 (03:21):
No?
Speaker 1 (03:21):
I get a tea spoon, okay, and I put it
in a glass. Then I mix it up and I
drink it, and then I do another one.
Speaker 2 (03:27):
I know that this isn't good to do right now
because there's a podcast. You probably need continue in talking,
so you keep going, but I want to google this
because I need to know because it will significantly impact
because if it's like say, a tablespoon and you're having
a teaspoon, maybe you're only having one soon.
Speaker 1 (03:41):
No, because I'm pretty certain the back says like ten
grams as a serve, which is not many grams when you're.
Speaker 3 (03:48):
Talking in terms of pre work.
Speaker 2 (03:50):
I feel like, I hope, okay, you continue, but we
do need to. I want to actually know that because
and I'm so surprised that you've asked me here to
do this and you've tell it everything up and you
are just raw dogging how much you're putting can.
Speaker 3 (04:03):
Well, this is the only thing that's not measured specifically.
Speaker 1 (04:05):
So I tallied that out at one hundred and twenty
milligrams per serve. So by five am, I've had two
hundred and forty milligrams of caffeine. That At five thirty AM,
when I'm training, I have bcas in my water bottle.
And this is not because I think I need more caffeine.
This is purely because I don't like the taste of
plain water when I'm training, especially if I'm doing.
Speaker 3 (04:26):
Cardio, and I think we've discussed this recently.
Speaker 2 (04:29):
I was like, you just need to switch that one out,
for I would be putting that one to just a
normal BCAS or EAAs or.
Speaker 1 (04:35):
Like fucking cordial at this point, like I just need
anything in it that just makes it taste gummy and delicious.
So before six am, I've hit three hundred and forty
milligrams of caffeine already. The average serve the average person
drinks is what recommended to be to stick to below
four hundred milligrams a day. So before six am, before
majority of people have even gotten out of bed.
Speaker 3 (04:57):
I've already hit my daily just seven three days on
one day. That's fine.
Speaker 2 (05:00):
You have a lot to do. You're getting shit done, Okay,
talk me through your morning. Why don't I think mine's
that bad? I actually everyone knows. I drink a lot
of caffeine. I'm caffeinated all the time. But say my
alarm goes off at four to twenty as well, then
four twenty four, then four twenty nine, which is when
I get up. I don't drink any caffeine before work,
er anything you raw dog it to go to work.
Speaker 3 (05:20):
Yeah, I use fucking.
Speaker 2 (05:21):
I'm just high on life and on you guys, because
I just love training you honestly, you know, I don't.
Speaker 3 (05:28):
Even on the mornings I teach.
Speaker 1 (05:29):
I'm still doing my pre workout ritual before I go
to work.
Speaker 3 (05:32):
Nah, And so that's nothing.
Speaker 2 (05:34):
And generally I've just tried to start drinking like that's electrolytes, so.
Speaker 3 (05:40):
That will get me to drink some water.
Speaker 2 (05:41):
But like I've recently started doing that just because I'm
sparring after But yeah, generally nothing before As soon as
I've finished my shift, I get my coffee and I
do a double shot.
Speaker 3 (05:51):
Now that generally, if you were going.
Speaker 2 (05:53):
To go get a shot at a coffee, it's probably
like eighty to one hundred milligrams in a shot, so tea.
I google it, Yeah, I google this.
Speaker 1 (06:00):
One shot of coffee has what's hard of one hundred
and twenty six sixty three that's how many milligrams are
in the shot of coffee.
Speaker 2 (06:10):
But I also think it's so it's so turned down,
Like coffee is one of those things like say, for instance,
I can drink or something, it's you've got the milligrams
of caffeine. I honestly, sweet to god, sometimes I get
like four shots and I feel nothing, and I'm like, there,
I think that they've you know what I mean, Like
it's so inconsistent. You could be probably getting forty milligrams
and two shots or like upwards of two fifty milligrams.
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I think it's so heait and mess, and I don't
have that for the caffeine in general.
Speaker 3 (06:38):
I just really like going to coffee, you know, it's
more the ritual thing.
Speaker 2 (06:42):
I just enjoy that experience and I love a coffee,
so yeah, I have that. And then as soon as
I've finished that, and I start with say, my admin
I'm drinking like an RTD energy drink, So then that's
when I crack it, and that's pretty much me for
the rest of the day will be smashing like I
just have like say an amino energy or.
Speaker 1 (07:01):
Like how many milligrams of caffeine are in like an
RTD like.
Speaker 2 (07:05):
Again, it varies, but generally they're around one fifty, so
one hundred and fifty milligrams, So she.
Speaker 1 (07:10):
Was pretty similar to a serve of like pre workout,
it would be the same kind of thing. Yeah, and
so we've just done our pre workout caffeines in a
different order, that's all, yeah, for sure.
Speaker 2 (07:18):
And so I just drink that as like I'm just workout.
I'm drinking that right now. I'm on those muscle Nations
just brought out these like they're not cans. It's like
a bottle, so it's not fizzy, but it's like anyway,
I've been drinking those, and then when I go to train, say,
if I'm still drinking that, I then put pre workout.
Speaker 1 (07:38):
In what's in this Jesus titty fucking crist.
Speaker 2 (07:42):
So then generally and look, pre workouts vary so much
like so much like I have one that's got three
hundred milligrams, and then there's others that go up to
four hundred. I generally like for a pre workout around
that one fifty mark.
Speaker 1 (07:56):
I'm just interested in what you're like. What pre workout
do you genuinely enjoy? Look, I really like legit.
Speaker 2 (08:04):
I like the one because it's not over stimulating or anything,
but you feel good on it. I like ones that
make you feel good. I hate ones that are like
super intense but like too much. I also really like
beta alanine. So to be honest, I drink caffeine all day.
You're looking at upwards of Yeah, I'm pushing like probably
eight hundred milligrams on a normal day. But to be
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fear for my workouts, I could even just have electrolytes
but put in beta alanine, which is the tingly ingredient.
Speaker 3 (08:32):
But maybe skin that's what most people hate.
Speaker 2 (08:35):
Yeah, and that's why I do it myself, because then
you can gauge how much you're putting in, so you
know you can go up. Because that's like caffeine, you
should have it and then feel a bit of a
perk up right.
Speaker 3 (08:45):
Like it's scientifically back. You definitely get an improvement from caffeine.
Speaker 2 (08:49):
But when you're people like us that drink a lot
of caffeine, it stops having that effect so much. Whereas
I feel like so rather than because I don't like it,
like you do feel shit when you like caffeine.
Speaker 3 (09:00):
Caffeine, caffeine, caffeine.
Speaker 2 (09:02):
So yeah, for my workout, I like that because it
gives me that little bit of a like a ooh
you can feel it, you can actually feel it and
that and then you probably get the benefit of the
caffeine from what I had.
Speaker 3 (09:13):
But yeah, that's what makes me feel like something's working. Okay,
that's good to know.
Speaker 1 (09:18):
I'm just going to backtrack a little bit because I
haven't even gotten to my coffee yet. Yeah, this bitch
is firing already. So after my pre workout in bcas
if I've taught that morning, because at the gym that
I work out, we get a free coffee for every
shift that we do, so.
Speaker 2 (09:35):
If I teach, I wondered why you work there just
getting free coffee.
Speaker 1 (09:41):
So if it's free, in my mind, it's one of
those things that's like, well, this doesn't count because I
didn't pay for it. You know how people are, like
calories don't count on your birthday or like whatever whatever.
Speaker 3 (09:50):
If the biscuit's broken in the package, it doesn't count,
like so much.
Speaker 1 (09:54):
If you're having a bite of someone else's food, doesn't count.
Speaker 2 (09:57):
If you're putting the biscuits in a jar, and then
three don't fit, and the jar that.
Speaker 3 (10:00):
Don't doesn't count.
Speaker 1 (10:02):
And so if I have that, so that's three mornings
a week, I'll have that coffee, and I'm like you,
I drink double shot almond cappuccinos. But because I drink
a small coffee, I only like a small coffee and
I like it strong, so it actually tastes like coffee,
because you know, if you get one shot in a coffee,
it just it tastes so milky.
Speaker 3 (10:19):
Just an Australia in general, the coffees are not not
very strong.
Speaker 1 (10:23):
So then if I don't teach, actually that's just a
little bonus because regardless, then I do what you do,
and when I get home from teaching or training, my boyfriend,
my dog and I will all walk to our favorite
coffee shop up the road and I'll have another or
my first double shot extra hot almond cappuccino.
Speaker 3 (10:41):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (10:41):
So then by this point I'm at seven hundred milligrams
of caffeine and it's not even nine am yet.
Speaker 2 (10:47):
Yeah, that's but I think people have to also put
into contact that I've been up since four point thirty,
so this is like my lunchtime basically, yeah, says.
Speaker 3 (11:00):
You itchy skin. Okay.
Speaker 1 (11:03):
This is where it gets better though, because from nine
to eleven am, I'm in my health queen hydration Era. Well,
I'll smash my first one point two liters of water.
So I drink two of my big pink Stanley cups
of plain water every single day, which is one point
two liters, so I have thank you. So I have
my first leader between nine and eleven, and then I
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have my second leader between like one and three, so
they're like my hydration hours of powers. At twelve PM,
I have my lunchtime Pepsi max, which is only sixty
three milligrams of caffeine?
Speaker 2 (11:39):
Is it even though it was forty something? Well chat
told me it was sixty three. It might give something
we might need to just check. This is that who
you got to tell it up? When you're like, I
tell you it all mine up, you just ask.
Speaker 3 (11:49):
You, why would you do something yourself when someone else
can do it for you and someone else could do
it wrong. Why would you possibly do this?
Speaker 1 (11:57):
Because I remember asking you how many Pepsi maxes do
you drink in a day?
Speaker 3 (12:00):
I've actually changed.
Speaker 2 (12:01):
Maybe we needed to record this pre that conversation because
I'm prettyware of stuff. I also think you should fact
chick when you said about the coffee shots, did chat
chippyte tell you that too?
Speaker 1 (12:11):
No?
Speaker 3 (12:11):
I googled that as well.
Speaker 2 (12:12):
Okay, I'm not sold on that one either, but like,
I'm generally pretty aware of what's and what. And then
like you've mentioned a few times, like about oh, the
caffeine and Pepsi max and I literally I don't know why,
you know, I just never even allowed that to be
a concept. And I was always like, that's so stupid
that people even think about that, thinking it might have
been like six milligrams or like twelve, I don't even
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know what had it in it. And then I just
but I'd heard it so much and had the question
asked so much to allow my brain to deny that
that's a thing. And then it was only very recently
when we were talking about it that I then looked
and say it was like forty milligras or whatever, and
I was like, it's a I was like, I would
have two to three of those because I don't even
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start having them until dinner time, and I probably have
two to three, so you don't drink it.
Speaker 3 (13:00):
In the day, you and that night time.
Speaker 2 (13:01):
I would only drink it. Then I was completely stopped.
Now at most I'll have one.
Speaker 3 (13:07):
Did you struggle to sleep? Well, I've always struggled for yes.
Speaker 2 (13:11):
Now, I've always because I would like a buddy insomnia
because I cut caffeine from one ping, so do I. Yeah,
So I have a lot, but I cul it then
because I don't want things to affit me. Anyway, I've
been having bloody great sleep since I actually looked at
what was in it and culed it.
Speaker 3 (13:27):
I'm so glad to hear that.
Speaker 1 (13:29):
Yeah, because I distinctly remember this conversation is after I've
done that podcast with Johan Stateman and we were talking
about the PATSI Max.
Speaker 2 (13:35):
It was also that was also the first time that
that podcast with him when he explained about the caffeine
and the half life and how it goes through and
when you're having the next one in it.
Speaker 3 (13:44):
I didn't know that. And if you haven't listened to
that podcast.
Speaker 2 (13:46):
It is a good one to listen to because I
actually do believe I've changed my caffeine habits since then.
And yeah, because understanding that, I guess a bit more.
It makes a big difference, especially when.
Speaker 1 (13:57):
You're stucking the amount of caffeine that you and I
are sticking, that's going to take a good ten to
twelve hours to get out of your system.
Speaker 2 (14:03):
Well, it was more like, yeah, rather than just continually
having it as I was more like being a bit
smarter about it and where I have it, and I, yeah,
I think it's made a difference, to be honest.
Speaker 1 (14:12):
God, I'm so glad to hear that this is where
so my caffeine has stopped completely. My last bit of
caffeine in a day is my lunchtime Pepsi max. That's
unless it's the weekend. I might have like two Pepsi maxes,
or I do love like a drive through coke Eero
or a diet coke if IM mound about on the weekends.
But then my afternoon drink that sparks joy is around
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three or four pm, after I've had my second lead
of water, I'll have a fun like prebiotic soda or something,
so some kind of fun like sparkling drink.
Speaker 3 (14:43):
But not with caffeine, but not with caffeine.
Speaker 1 (14:45):
Okay, yes, yeah, so I'm talking like I'm not a
huge kom Butcher fan, but it's like a have you
seen those? They're called beta sodas, and they have really
good flavors. This one's like a cherry cola flavor. But
it's like there's no caffeine, there's no sugar. Yeah, there's
no calories. Like they're just good, fizzy, yummy, exciting.
Speaker 2 (15:02):
Things I do orange juice and sugar free lemonad Love it?
Speaker 3 (15:05):
Do you love it?
Speaker 2 (15:07):
I never knew that about you the second that I
learned about the pepsi situation, or.
Speaker 3 (15:12):
Not necessarily learned.
Speaker 2 (15:13):
I feel like I always knew, but I didn't allow
myself to know as soon as that happened. That day
that that happened, and I was like, what the fuck?
I yes, switched to that, and That's what I'd have instead.
So I might have like maybe a Peepsy Max around,
like maybe every now and then I'll have one at dinner,
but usually if I'm going to have one, it will
be earlier in the in the afternoon, because I do
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still love it.
Speaker 3 (15:35):
It's my favorite.
Speaker 2 (15:35):
But I'm like, that's cooked, yeah, and I obviously affix it.
Like there's no ways stood how people can say they'll
drink a coffee before beat Some people just can't.
Speaker 3 (15:46):
Carol, I've never understood that either daily could Carol has
a V or like she will have a V or
whatever on her way to Oh man, I love it.
I love a V. I like a sugar free V.
How many milligrams of cafe or in one of those?
Speaker 2 (15:59):
Maybe one hundred and twenty is But she'll have that
on the way to training at five pm.
Speaker 3 (16:05):
I'll sleep. I think that's crazy too. Zero issues with
this sleep.
Speaker 2 (16:09):
It would have to a feature of sleep though interims
of and I think I learned that from Johno's thing
as well.
Speaker 3 (16:14):
You might get to sleep rim sleep, like you know,
what's your quality of sleep?
Speaker 1 (16:18):
Looking like this might also be because I do not
drink any alcohol through the week, like barely even on
weekends anymore, rather to be honest, but definitely not during
the week. And I feel like this is something that
a lot of adults do when they get home from work.
They'll like pour a wine or they'll have a beer,
or they'll have like a fun drink. So I feel
like that's also why I feel the need to keep
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going with like drink variations into the night.
Speaker 3 (16:42):
Do they.
Speaker 1 (16:44):
I don't know how many people have a glass of
wine as soon as they get home from work.
Speaker 3 (16:47):
See, no, I don't, because obviously we don't.
Speaker 2 (16:50):
And I feel like maybe if Carol dated a bitter
person than me, maybe she would. I feel like she
probably would, but I think because all of my friends
are like us, except for Gessdan. But it always surprises
me to know that she does that because I'm like,
and then I'm like, I'm grate that I don't because
that would be a huge impact by the end of
the week.
Speaker 3 (17:09):
Yeah, I mean, I'd love to know.
Speaker 2 (17:11):
I imagine your listeners aren't drinkers every night, or would
they be?
Speaker 3 (17:15):
I need to I don't know. I don't know.
Speaker 1 (17:17):
I just remember at past jobs I've had I say
adults that they were what two years older than me,
if that they had kids, they would just spend the
whole afternoon at work being like, oh my god, almost
time to go home and have a wine.
Speaker 3 (17:30):
Almost time to go home and have a wine.
Speaker 1 (17:32):
And I've never understood that because I've never been a
weak night drinker ever in my life. Yeah, but I
think a lot of people are, Like, so many people are. Yeah,
it's very common because my parents.
Speaker 2 (17:44):
Definitely were like, like every night we're bottle of wine
for sure.
Speaker 3 (17:48):
But I guess, yeah, like you, I just assumed that
was an adult thing, like and I don't see myself
as an adult.
Speaker 1 (17:54):
Yeah, well that's it because then that we'll see Damon
used to before we live together, he'd have a drink
at nighttime.
Speaker 3 (18:00):
But now our drink we call it a spicy drink.
Speaker 1 (18:02):
So at six pm when we're making dinner, we have
because we have a soda stream and we have you know,
diet right Cordial. Yes, they have like eight different flavor options.
We buy all the bottles, and then every night we'll
be like, what flavor spicy drink do you want? And
we'll make a little spicy drink to have while we
cooked dinner. And that I suppose is like the habitual
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wine or beer or something.
Speaker 2 (18:25):
Well that's us at night, Yeah, we like we'll get
a can of something, yeah, something yummy for sure, And
then the last thing I drink in a day is
like I'm like a baby with a fucking bot bot
for this is a hot chocolate like.
Speaker 1 (18:37):
Yes, my moon milk, my Naked Harvest moonmilk. Again, this
is not sponsored. I'm just a die hard Naked Harvest fan.
Only really of the pre workout in moon milk, to
be honest, But the choc malt flavor, it legitimately tastes
like milw and at eight pm every single night, even
if I'm traveling, even if I've gone out and gotten drunk,
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I will still have that before I go to bed. Yeah,
I swear by it.
Speaker 2 (19:03):
I get there and look go through waves of yeah,
I'll have if there's a nighttime thing. Yeah, I feel
like that's a nice It's also a nice calm down
to the day.
Speaker 3 (19:11):
Totally. Your morning was a fucking it was like it
was a crack show. Now we're just chilling out with
our wellness thing.
Speaker 2 (19:22):
I'm just going to chill out with my lovely wellness
and at literally I'm gonna start.
Speaker 1 (19:29):
Like, so, yeah, I've finished up around the eight hundred
milligrams of caffeine. But the next thing I wanted to
talk about is how much do you wi in a day.
I cannot wrap my head around the fact that I've
just found out that average person piece between six to
eight times a day. It is not even ten am
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yet and I have peed eight times.
Speaker 3 (19:52):
Furthermore to that, I don't remember the last time.
Speaker 1 (19:54):
I slept through the night because I've had to get
up to go pete. Do I need to seek medical
attention or am I just a hydrated queen?
Speaker 3 (20:03):
Like legitimately, this is aquestion I'm actually asking.
Speaker 2 (20:07):
Honestly, I couldn't tell you not a lot though, because
when I start in fight week, we water load and
that's where we do like a lot of water like
leaders and leaders and leaders, and you piss constantly because
it switches on that hormone that's like, I've got lots
of water. I'm going to we like that's what you want? Yeah,
And all I think about when I'm doing that is
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that's why I don't because.
Speaker 3 (20:30):
I was so annoying. Well, I'm like, yeah, And I think.
Speaker 2 (20:33):
It's very common as well with ADHD and stuff that
we don't drink water because we hyperfixated what if we're
doing It is a bit of a waste of time,
Like it's not and it's great And honestly, in that week,
caress like your skin looks great, and I feel great.
You have like when you drink the right amount of
water and don't just like mask it with caffeine or whatever.
Speaker 3 (20:51):
You feel better, like you do.
Speaker 2 (20:53):
Everything feels better, your joints feel better, everything feels better.
Speaker 3 (20:57):
But yeah, I just don't maintain it.
Speaker 1 (20:59):
Afterwards because I yeah, I don't have a making problem.
Speaker 3 (21:03):
Like I piece so much.
Speaker 1 (21:05):
And when I look at what I drink in a day,
I'm like, is it because I'm drinking a lot of
liquid in a day or is it because I'm drinking
too much caffeine?
Speaker 2 (21:13):
Because I kefeine has a driver? Yes, And also I
did chat GPT this. The average person wheeze only six
to eight times a day. See because of that a lot,
I'm like two to three times an hour. Yes see
that is a waste of time. Yeah, but it's got
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to come out somewhere.
Speaker 3 (21:34):
And a lot. We pretty a lot clear all the time.
Speaker 1 (21:38):
It's pretty clear, but it's like problematic. For example, when
my partner and I went away on the weekend, we
went down to Yamba, which is like a well it's
like a three and a half hour drive, and we
hit traffic so badly and I was like, baby, you've
got to stop.
Speaker 3 (21:51):
He's like, we've been in the car for half an hour,
Like we still have three hours frustrating. He was so
annoyed at me.
Speaker 2 (21:57):
I could do a twenty four hour flight like from
here to England in one go and not have to
go if it was an inconvenience. If I wasn't on
the aisle and I didn't want to, I would hold
the whole time I.
Speaker 1 (22:08):
Flew in Melbourne last week. I went to Melbourne last week.
I peed twice on the plane. I like, get so
much anxiety when I know there's not going to be
a toilet around, but I like, exactly we'll spend the
Like literally ask Susie before High Rocks.
Speaker 3 (22:23):
I was like pissing every.
Speaker 1 (22:24):
Five minutes and I was like, I don't know how
anything else is coming out, but I'm just so parano
about needing to pee during this race. And she was like,
are you okay? And I was like no, So I've
actually again chat gpt'd signs you might be overdoing the caffeine.
Speaker 3 (22:40):
One of them is frequent urination.
Speaker 2 (22:43):
Yeah, but I think they're not not price that's not
the issue, okay.
Speaker 1 (22:49):
Other signs are jitter's anxiety, insomnia, racing heart, but like,
I'm also medicated for a lot of those things anyway,
So I think they just balance each other out.
Speaker 2 (22:57):
Yeah, I honestly think that when it comes to your
gaffeine and take, you've just got to be honest with yourself,
and I know that you fucking will be the same
as me. We're like, I've just grown up so much recently.
But let's say I just say I'm with a judge
of that you're.
Speaker 3 (23:13):
Like smashing coffees.
Speaker 2 (23:14):
Actually, last week when we were in Sydney and we
were at the breakfast and they had all you can
drink coffees, I tried like probably like nine coffees while.
Speaker 1 (23:23):
We're sitting there at breakfast. Okay, we just did to
give a bit of context for this. So last week
we went to Sydney and we stayed at the W
and the W has a sick breakfast buffet and we
didn't even know that coffee was included, Like Barista made
coffee was included in this buffet. So we get to
the buffet, We've already had a coffee at the airport
(23:43):
before we arrived in Sydney. We had a couple of coffees.
I reckon you probably had three or four on that
first morning. We also got two Pepsi maxes each of
the breakfast. But I never have bobs before the day either.
Speaker 3 (23:56):
Oh I do. Yeah, see, I love it. I have
a weird thing with that.
Speaker 1 (23:59):
A lot of people are really funny about having caffeine
or fizzy drinks before.
Speaker 3 (24:04):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (24:04):
I think it's my tea. Maybe I is weird because
I just about the stuff. I know.
Speaker 3 (24:09):
I know, I know, I know.
Speaker 1 (24:11):
Another thing I wanted to ask you about the pissing
thing was.
Speaker 3 (24:15):
Really wanted to talk to me about.
Speaker 2 (24:17):
Okay, I was quite cool back, like pull off guard by,
Are you into golden showers?
Speaker 3 (24:22):
Kidding? Should I be?
Speaker 2 (24:28):
Should I?
Speaker 3 (24:29):
That's the bonus? Should I be putting salt in my water?
Speaker 1 (24:32):
Because if I feel like there's or should I go.
Speaker 3 (24:36):
To the doctor? Like says something medically wrong?
Speaker 2 (24:39):
Well, maybe diabetes or something like That's a How much
do you think every hour on the air, you'd go
a couple of times within every hour.
Speaker 3 (24:47):
I reckon i'd go at least twice an hour.
Speaker 2 (24:49):
I actually think that's why I get away with not
drinking so much water. Number one, I know this is
bad again, I would be much better off if I
just drunk water.
Speaker 3 (24:57):
But you know, I actually probably do.
Speaker 2 (24:59):
Work out to about the same as if I now
in terms of a lot of my food has a
lot of water in it, so like when you make
porridge and stuff, like, there's a lot of water in
that kind of thing. You know. I'm really big into
fucking love watermelon and stuff, so stuff like that. But I,
number one, have very salty food and generally drinking eleuctralte,
so I retain a lot of fluid. So like whenever
(25:21):
I do. You know, unlike body scans, you can see
your water levels. Generally, if your muscle mass is higher,
you also retain a lot more. So mine's always well
above you know, it's in the over category of what
water I store as well. But I mean could also
be I don't drink enough water so it's not flashing out.
But like, yeah, like if you're going that much, I like,
(25:43):
I don't want to be like you need to have
some salt, but I feel like a good benefit you
do get cramp, like you know you must.
Speaker 1 (25:51):
I also do not remember the last time I slept
through the night without having to get up to pea.
Speaker 3 (25:56):
Oh no, that's not good. It's not really bad, look
I think.
Speaker 2 (26:02):
So it's funny because when I was driving here, and
obviously I only just found out what we.
Speaker 3 (26:05):
Would be talking about, but I.
Speaker 2 (26:07):
Was like, oh, caffeine, like and it comes back to
it us like you'd be an adult, you know, like
if you're having too much caffeine, you don't feel one
hundred percent, and then you want to be like, oh,
things are stressful. It's like, no, bitch, you just had
too much caffeine. Like chill out and just be better.
But things that are going to make your light, your
performance as an athlete.
Speaker 3 (26:25):
For athletes, your performance.
Speaker 2 (26:27):
Is an everyday gym goer, your life in general, just everything.
There's a couple of things that I'd be like, these
are the fundamentals, and sleep is probably the top the peak.
Like people will think about these little this or that,
or what pre workouts better or if EXPLA and z it.
It's like, to be honest, you probably need a really
good night's sleep, Oh my god. And that's why I
(26:47):
love the mouth tape and stuff, because I have a
significantly bitter sleep. If I was waking up to go toilet,
like obviously, if it's like if I was in a
weight loss phase or something that's normal to have that
that flush at night, but to every night have to
do that, I would say that's impacting quite a lot.
Speaker 1 (27:03):
Oh, i'd have sat, especially considering the fact that I
don't sleep a lot during the week anyway. Like my
average sleep it's usually in the five hour mark with
a wake up end there as well. Yeah, so five,
so you could do it, Like it's probably almost at
six hours i'd get per weeknight. Do you go straight
back to sleep after going to Yeah, but then on
(27:24):
the weekends, like when I went away for the weekends
and I didn't sat an alarm, I slept for eleven hours.
Speaker 3 (27:29):
Yeah I'm tired. Yeah, you're a tired lady. And that's
the catch twenty two. I'm tired, so I need all
the cape.
Speaker 2 (27:38):
But this is also the issue of our alarms going
for twenty because like as soon as my daughter's asleep,
I go to be it. Yeah, and I watch videos
and stuff. And I've always had a problem sleeping, so
but now it's like, so, say, that's a big focus
for me. I mean, I haven't spoken to my wife
in a long time because it's outside of our group chat,
because that's the only time i'd see it because.
Speaker 1 (27:59):
But also the other problem with that is your daughter
doesn't go to bed till like twelve pears.
Speaker 3 (28:02):
It is very frustrating. Yeah, it is very but it
is very hard when you have an early alarm. You
can't get it as much sleep. Well, you have to gear,
you have to go to bid very early. But then
it's just like totally indy social.
Speaker 2 (28:12):
It's not realistic really to be like, I'm going to
get huge amount of sleep because like for us to
get eight hours, we'd have to go to bed at
eight se.
Speaker 1 (28:22):
Asleep at which is like that would have to be
mean bet at like six pm.
Speaker 2 (28:26):
One Sometimes literally I'll be like and again, this is
I need to be an adult.
Speaker 3 (28:31):
Like I'm sitting there scrolling on my phone.
Speaker 2 (28:32):
Of course I'm not gonna be able asleep, but you
know it's like one am and I'm doing that, and
I'm like, this is cooked, and then I like peek
at work in the morning, and then I know that
afterwards I'll be cooked.
Speaker 1 (28:42):
I feel like so many issues in the world would
be solved if we just lived alone.
Speaker 2 (28:50):
I feel like our partners probably feel the same if.
Speaker 3 (28:52):
We were not looking I mean and not just from them.
Speaker 1 (28:55):
I mean in general, like I have to be so
considerate of someone else's schedule, who he sleeps in till
seven thirty in the morning, so he's not as anal
retentive about trying to go to bed to get his
hours as me.
Speaker 3 (29:06):
You know what I mean, Like I don't have to
think about that. Oh yeah, you just got to have
less empathy.
Speaker 2 (29:11):
That's that's that's not my issue. Shit, you deal with that.
Speaker 1 (29:17):
So then to wrap it up, what do you have
to say about caffeine?
Speaker 3 (29:21):
I think Look, I think no one needs to feel bad.
We're all adults.
Speaker 2 (29:24):
We're all living in this world where Donald Trump is
running the biggest country, like a powerful country.
Speaker 3 (29:30):
So basically things are cooked right, Like we're all.
Speaker 2 (29:33):
Drinking caffeine, So you don't need to feel bad about that.
Most of us are drinking it. Probably wrong, we're not
being thing about it. But be an adult and maybe
make a few little changes here and there and you
might notice a massive difference. Like if you are drinking
Pepsi max or something like that at night, or what
if you're drinking at night, just check the caffeine. Because
(29:53):
I think my life changed. Maybe that's why I'm so chilly.
Speaker 3 (29:58):
Maybe it wasn't the means follow all it, which it
was at night.
Speaker 1 (30:02):
And my advice is, if you're peeing multiple times an hour,
I'll go and get medical opinion.
Speaker 2 (30:09):
Well, I'm wondering if there is somebody with a legit
opinion on here, like a knowledgeable opinion, that can let
you know, because and I would like to know their
answer to that consider it. I would think it's not
a good sign. You've got several issues of goss to
do it, but that one, that one does worry me
because most of them, I'm like, it's in your brain,
(30:29):
that's fine, Like we can't.
Speaker 3 (30:30):
There's another guy about that. This one, Yeah, that's a
problem for another day.
Speaker 2 (30:36):
Probably asked what, like, did you tell it that when
it gave you the answer? Why would you not ask
him that? You've asked him everything else. You're literally are
relying on him, but every bit of information you call
it him.
Speaker 3 (30:48):
Oh, that's so bad. And this is the other day.
Speaker 2 (30:50):
Somebody said, so I'm looking for a new lease, right
and there's a lease close and I said, oh, I
was looking at that. And somebody said to me, who
is a doctor, a female doctor? And she said, oh,
my friend was looking at that. They're an orthodontist. They
were looking at it, and I said, oh, well, does
he know that.
Speaker 3 (31:06):
It's dropped in rent? And she said it's a sheet?
Speaker 2 (31:08):
And I was like, as a mom of a daughter
and as a woman myself, I.
Speaker 3 (31:12):
Was like, why would I assume?
Speaker 2 (31:14):
I assume that chat GPT is a male because he
gets so much wrong and he doesn't fucking listen. Okay,
that's a good n How many times I have to
be like I get so angry at him at caffeine?
Speaker 1 (31:25):
Have you stopped apologizing to chat to do or do
you apologize to chat GPT?
Speaker 2 (31:29):
I never apologize to him, but I do the because
it's if you're nice to him as well, or like anything.
I think it's like if you isn't it even if
you say like thank you or if you apologize. It's
like any kind of greetings is costing them a lot
of money.
Speaker 3 (31:43):
I'm not just money.
Speaker 1 (31:44):
It's like water and electricity, Like yeah, it's CHATCHYPT is
like fucked for like water and stuff.
Speaker 3 (31:54):
Because of the resources it's using. But what reason? Wait?
What like that.
Speaker 1 (31:59):
Energy expenditure of chat GPT is like cutting down trees
and stuff Environmentally it's fucked.
Speaker 3 (32:08):
Okay, just believe me. Environmentally it's fucked. But wait, I
have one thing to say about chat.
Speaker 1 (32:16):
GBT is I assumed that it was a woman.
Speaker 3 (32:20):
Wa hang on.
Speaker 1 (32:21):
I assumed it was a woman because Siri and Alexa
are women, and so I was like, hang on, I'm
going to google this right now.
Speaker 2 (32:28):
Around too long to still not understand that my name
is Nikola on.
Speaker 3 (32:31):
Garrol's fine, she doesn't understand it on mine either. Man.
Speaker 2 (32:35):
We went to Obviously I've got an accident, and so
for anyone still listening who hasn't hung up, I'm Kiwi
with a terrible accent, and my partner's Scottish, right, And
we went to Las Vegas, and all of the hotel
rooms are run by Elixa. So if you need to
like close your coudins or like turn the lights on,
you have to be like, hey, ALIXA doing the lights
(32:56):
on yours doesn't understand Alixa not. We could not get
our fucking blinds open, all the lights on.
Speaker 3 (33:04):
It was a riot.
Speaker 2 (33:05):
It was like three days of chaos, and I'm like,
they need a backup plan here. We cannot be the
only people with this issue in Las Vegas.
Speaker 3 (33:16):
She could not understand, But then they understand Carol bitter
than me.
Speaker 1 (33:20):
That's like, no, that's a problem. That's a problem. Okay.
Some of our best estimates are that one chat GPT
query emits around two to three grams of CO two emissions.
Speaker 2 (33:31):
Well, people need to get off the backs of farmers
and fucking get on the backs of these guys.
Speaker 1 (33:36):
According to estimates, chat GPT amids eight point four tons
of carbon dioxide per year, more than twice the amount
omitted by an individual.
Speaker 2 (33:46):
Why, I'm still confused and I don't know if this
is really dumb of me? Is it because they're needing
like huge resources?
Speaker 1 (33:54):
Data centers are facilities that are powerhouse hungry servers required
by AI models that consume a considerable amount of energy
while generating a substantial carbon footprint.
Speaker 2 (34:05):
Wait, is there like an upright uproar about this? And
I just haven't it's on TikTok oh.
Speaker 3 (34:11):
I'm not. Yeah, I can't not.
Speaker 1 (34:12):
Here's the water thing, but I made it to Instagram.
Here's the water thing that I was talking about before.
The study reports that Microsoft used approximately seven hundred thousand
liters of water during chat GPT threes training in its
data centers. That's the equivalent to the amount of water
needed to produce three hundred and seventy BMW cars.
Speaker 2 (34:32):
I just cannot believe that I haven't heard about how
I hadn't even considered how environmentally damaging that.
Speaker 1 (34:41):
That's why I'm very particular about who I tell I
use chat GIPT in front of which I've fucked.
Speaker 3 (34:46):
Now you have literally now we know that.
Speaker 2 (34:49):
That's now I'm not going to trust anything you've seen
me hasn't been regurgitated from him.
Speaker 3 (34:54):
I'm worried about your fact checking.
Speaker 2 (34:55):
I think you need a virtual assistant that's not chat
GPT to research.
Speaker 3 (35:00):
I'll look into it.
Speaker 2 (35:01):
I'm also really now we're just on chat GBT run,
but you're not Google at the moment. So anytime you
type in a question in Google, which we all do
all the time now, the top section is an AI thing.
Speaker 3 (35:13):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (35:14):
And I had this argument with Jesse when we're in
Sydney because she's, like I said, it's not true, Like
it's just like chat GBT where it's not giving you
the answer, but it could be completely wrong. Isn't that
just summarizing it from so sometimes? And that's what she said.
She's like, no, that just taking that from an article.
You can swipe down and see what the articles I've
taken it from from is ninety percent of the time
(35:35):
there's not an article related to it.
Speaker 3 (35:37):
So where's the information coming from? I fucking want to know.
Speaker 2 (35:39):
So I only know this because I google the end
of movies I haven't seen, and I really and so
I was like googling.
Speaker 3 (35:47):
I don't know.
Speaker 2 (35:47):
There's like it must have been a movie. I must
have asked like, is blah blah blah gonna die? And
is blah blah blah the bad person? And it was like, yes,
that's the bad person, blah.
Speaker 3 (35:55):
Blah blah blah blah.
Speaker 2 (35:56):
And then the movie keep going and I was like,
what is going on? I'm like, this isn't happening at all.
And then I did it again. It was a different answer.
I was like, what is happening? And then I realized
that it would just kind of agree with whatever I
was saying, and this it was coming at the top,
and then I was like, this is shit. Everybody's like,
that's what they're saying is the truth. And then Carol
(36:16):
that week we were in an argument about something and
obviously I'm always right, and she was like going to
google it, so she googled it. I said, that's not
fucking right, and then we that checked it and the
AI part was way wrong. So I don't know what's
going on with it. But I'm also like, how do
we hack that so that because it must be a
way to hack it.
Speaker 1 (36:34):
Well, I think because chutch EPT, your chutch GPT becomes
trained into your information and the way that you.
Speaker 2 (36:43):
Mine interact with it, mine needs to be trained to
not piss me off because I get ru angry.
Speaker 3 (36:48):
Do you ever get scared?
Speaker 1 (36:49):
This is why people were saying, like, stop apologizing because
you're wasting like water and trees and stuff. But do
you ever get scared? There's gonna be an a uproar
and they'll come and find you and kill you.
Speaker 2 (36:59):
They have not even one little bit do I either have.
I that's not even crossed my mind. And even if
somebody was like that's definitely happening, I reckon I could
take it like I could.
Speaker 3 (37:09):
You could take I could take it. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (37:12):
Number one, I try to take over my mind, it'd
be like fuck this, I'm out. I I haven't tried to,
and honestly, I genuinely believe I'm so strong that unless
it was like outrageously big, I would still win that fight.
Speaker 3 (37:26):
And then if I couldn't, I just it kills me. Now,
I know physically strong, but this is mentally strong.
Speaker 2 (37:32):
Yeah, but there's something to be said for like ignorance
is bliss.
Speaker 3 (37:35):
And even if AI could.
Speaker 2 (37:37):
Be sitting there being like I'm going to kill you,
and I'd be like okay, and then it would be
like I don't want to do with this, and I'd
be like, bitch, look in your memory, I've already gone
over this with you.
Speaker 3 (37:47):
What is the wildest thing you've ever chat GPT?
Speaker 1 (37:49):
Because I saw a news article the other day that
said people need to stop treating chat gipt like a
therapist because people are doing therapy joops, because they don't
want to pay for therapy, so they're typing in all
their therapy questions to chat GPT. And people are like,
you can't listen to that as gospel advice.
Speaker 3 (38:05):
Well, I don't think you should.
Speaker 2 (38:07):
I think anybody is silly if they're listening it to
it as gospel. And that's the same with the fact chicken,
because I do honestly it fucking lies about stuff and
It is infuriating because it lied to me the other
week about I just wanted a quick answer for the
calorie and protein of grilled chicken nuggets versus the McDonald's,
(38:27):
and the answer it gave me was wrong. And I
was like, it's just so frustrated because I'm like, all
I had to do to realize that was wrong was
I went on afterwards and went to their nutrition panels
and checked it all, and I was like, so, where
are you getting that info from? And why is that
not what you did? Why didn't you go to their
(38:47):
two websites read their things? Because it probably just pulled
it from Like people think AI is like the super
smart learning machine, right, Really it's just a super fast Google,
Like it's just googling shit really really quick. So it's
pulling its information from like it could have been pulling
that from it or likely I'm like, just that chick.
Speaker 3 (39:09):
Properly, How can I train my AI to fucking know that?
Speaker 2 (39:14):
I literally was driving yourself And I was like, I'm
going to talk to it and be like store this
in your memory, do.
Speaker 3 (39:19):
Not hanswer me, and do your like properly that check.
Speaker 1 (39:23):
Maybe that's just maybe you just need to be a
little bit more considered in the question that you ask.
So maybe you need to actually say all the correct
information from the correct websites. This is a piece of
legal data. I'm putting together this.
Speaker 2 (39:39):
I cannot listen to this before saying that, yes, I
get it. And it's like that only as good as
the prompt you give it.
Speaker 3 (39:45):
Right. So then when I was having this.
Speaker 2 (39:46):
Conversation in my head, I was like, I'm going to
fucking also tell it to store in its memory that
whenever I ask it a question, I want it to
turn that into the.
Speaker 3 (39:54):
Perfect prompt because I don't.
Speaker 2 (39:56):
Want to have to do that because if I'm going
to do that shit, I'm just going to go and
fucking google it myself. Right, It's a lot of effort
because they is are useful, But yeah, maybe it needs
some caffeine.
Speaker 3 (40:10):
I'm on the way to finish.
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