June 22, 2025 • 27 mins
In the very first episode of Unhinged, host and hype girl Phoebe Parsons sits down with Mikki Fisher to unpack the psychological theory that every Disney princess represents a different mental health disorder. From Snow White’s delusions to Ariel’s identity crisis, no tiara is safe. It’s chaotic, controversial, and weirdly therapeutic.
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Speaker 1 (00:05):
Apodjay Production.
Speaker 2 (00:10):
I don't even know how to start this because I
haven't even gone through.
Speaker 1 (00:15):
How are we starting my podcast? Welcome to Unhinged.
Speaker 2 (00:23):
This is a podcast about the unfiltered, unhinged, and uncomfortably
relatable shit that you only talk about in your closest
group chat. I'm phoebe Well. Welcome to Unhinged. And Mickey Fisher.
Speaker 3 (00:37):
Hello, I'm very excited to be here because I feel
like I'm embody unhinged and what that means and what
that is please deepen my soul.
Speaker 1 (00:44):
That's how I feel.
Speaker 2 (00:45):
I'm so happy that you are my first guest, because
when you have a podcast that has called something like unhinged,
it's I feel like people could be borderline offended if
you're invited to be on the show.
Speaker 3 (00:56):
And to be fair, you did really well because I
didn't know the name of it until like two minutes ago,
and I said, what's the name of the new podcast?
Speaker 1 (01:04):
And he said Unhinged. I said perfect.
Speaker 2 (01:06):
I mean, and today we are jumping right in and
we are talking about Disney princesses because I feel like
as millennials, Disney is something that is so ingrained in us,
and I just feel like it really says a lot
about our upbringing and probably it really probably explains a
bit about why we are the way we are in adults.
Speaker 3 (01:28):
Oh absolutely, Like I'm pretty sure Disney princesses like our
blood type, and that's who inspired us. That's what we
learned about love through, you know, like taking a bite
out of a poisonous apple and hoping a prince will
come along and kiss us back to life. Like, that's
why we learned everything.
Speaker 1 (01:46):
One and all your dreams come true.
Speaker 2 (01:51):
But have you noticed in recent artwork, they've all had
work done, They've all had some cosmetic work done to
their faces because they're looking for a.
Speaker 3 (01:59):
Little bit the Disney princesses and also us.
Speaker 2 (02:06):
So I'm not sure if you're across there is actually
a theory going around social media right now where there's
a psychiatrist who believes that every Disney princess embodies a
different mental health disorder or condition. Okay, that feels right,
and that's what I want to chat to you about today.
And I think I just want to set the precedence
as someone who has several mental health conditions. I'm also medicated.
(02:26):
I'm in no way pointing fun of any of them.
I just want to chat about them because I feel
like maybe it will help you understand them all, maybe
it will help you understand yourself more.
Speaker 3 (02:36):
It's like doing a personality quiz, you know. That's what
I feel. I feel like anything. That's why it's like,
you know what friend's character are you?
Speaker 1 (02:43):
What?
Speaker 3 (02:43):
Disney Princess are you what? I don't know whatever? And
it's like that tells me so much about you.
Speaker 2 (02:48):
But I also think that the innuendo in Disney and
some of these things that will like chat about in
a second, it's not something you pick up until you
rewatch it again as an adult, kind of like movies
or like TV shows, Like you know, when you watch
something like ten Things I Hate About You back, or
you listen to Spice Girls Too Become one back as
an adult and you're like, damn, my mum, really let
me sing about sexual intercourse at seven years old.
Speaker 3 (03:10):
This is literally because I've got three young kids and
so and we listen only pretty much to like nineties
music and musical theater. Right, I'm like, my guys, today
we're learning about Brittany. We're listening to every single song
she's ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, done for you.
Speaker 1 (03:29):
I'm not even like work bitch comes on and my kids,
I mean, that's not a great moral.
Speaker 3 (03:34):
And like my son especially, he's a boy band kid,
and so like he's like, you know, getting into the
sexual literally this morning, and I'm like, get a boy
crowd so croud.
Speaker 1 (03:49):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (03:49):
So basically I hear. I experienced that every single day.
Love it so to set the presidents.
Speaker 2 (03:55):
Firstly, when you were a child, who was your favorite
to see Princess Belle?
Speaker 1 (04:00):
Yes?
Speaker 2 (04:01):
Yeah, mine was Cinderella. Oh okay, it's changed in adulthood.
So as an adult, do you have a different favorite
one or.
Speaker 3 (04:08):
I've been Bell from the beginning and I'm still team Bell.
Speaker 1 (04:12):
Hello Bell? Was you a guest on?
Speaker 2 (04:15):
Guest On?
Speaker 1 (04:15):
May I have my book? Please? How can you read this?
There's no pictures? Well, some people use their imagination.
Speaker 3 (04:22):
I love reading, she loved reading. I have brown hair,
she has brown hair.
Speaker 2 (04:29):
I feel like as a child, the looks one really
got to you. Like you associated with the one that
you look the most like, which I think is true
about a lot of things. But in my adult life,
I think I am very much team Ariel now because
I think she's very misunderstood Yeah, she's chaotic, she's a
hot mess, all of things which are relate to. So
we're going to start with Ariel. Okay, her diagnosis, yeah,
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is that she's a hoarder and she has compulsive decision making.
Speaker 1 (04:54):
Hoarder is so that's funny.
Speaker 2 (04:56):
It's very accurate though, because she has a cave full
of literal human junk that she guards with her life.
Speaker 1 (05:03):
Yeah, but I'm like, is that hort or?
Speaker 3 (05:05):
Is that a special interest? Well, she calls them who's
it's and what's its galore? I know, but it's like
she's obsessed with human life. So to me, I'm like,
that's like a forty year old who's got a house
full of Pokemon. That's like they love pokemon, right they
do you still consider that halting? No, Like she puts
her life on the line. Remember that shark tries to
come in attack and she's like, bitch.
Speaker 1 (05:25):
Get away from my my special thing. These are my things.
Speaker 2 (05:30):
So I just feel like that is also like evidence
that you're a great collector, but also the evidence is
there that you probably need an intervention or at the
bare minimum some Maricondo like, yeah, we need to decide what,
like which of these like forks fill you with joy, right,
I mean I did used to brush my hair with
a fork when I was a child.
Speaker 1 (05:51):
That had a really big impact on me.
Speaker 2 (05:53):
But I feel like again she's she explicitly says it,
you know that bit in the song where she's like,
you want thinghama bots, I forgot twenty.
Speaker 1 (06:02):
Hairs, No big deal. I want more? No, you don't.
You don't need more, You've got enough.
Speaker 3 (06:12):
Yeah, yeah, true, And it's like they're consumerism, although like
at least it's all secondhand things, you know what I mean?
Speaker 1 (06:18):
Absolutely?
Speaker 2 (06:19):
I mean I feel like, in comparison to the compulsive
decision making, the hoarding is probably the least.
Speaker 1 (06:24):
Of just.
Speaker 2 (06:26):
Because Sis gave up her voice and her family for
a man she had never had a two way conversation with.
Speaker 1 (06:34):
Yeah, she said that Dick looks like could be that good.
Speaker 2 (06:38):
I mean, we've all done it, but I feel like
she our version of impulse decisions is like making an
impulse purchase, but with hers, there's no return policy on that.
You have literally given up your entire life for this man.
Speaker 1 (06:54):
I feel like when you think about her age as well,
so this is I'm pretty sure she's like not even
sixteen she is a child, well she's the younger sister. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (07:02):
Literally, And so when I was that age, and if
there was like a handsome prince and I was like
I just want to be a real girl with legs
or whatever, and this handsome prince is like interested me,
or I'm obsessed with him.
Speaker 1 (07:15):
Like a stalker, whatever it is.
Speaker 3 (07:18):
If I had some camp octopus come and sing me
a song and say like, my bad, how bad do
you want this boy? I think I'd probably say yes,
just even for the plot at that age, because like
when you're when you're fifteen years old, you're not thinking
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about like consequences.
Speaker 1 (07:42):
You're just like I want to I want to be
with that boy. It's actually true.
Speaker 2 (07:47):
I did probably mold myself a little bit to my
crush at the time. Like one time I was dating
this sorry not dating this guy, looking upon this guy
in primary school. He liked like tomboy girls, and I
am like the least tomboy girl you could possibly bleed
meat in your entire life. And I was like, that's it.
I'm gonna be tom boy. I'm throwing away all of
(08:09):
my pink attire. I'm doing this. I'm doing that because
he is gonna like me. He didn't like me. I
was just dressing up essentially. When I went on my
very first date, I was in grade six or grade seven,
so in primary school, and I can't do horror. And
the boy I was dating at the time, to the
age of eleven, was like, let's go to the movies
(08:30):
and see what lies beneath? Do you like scary movies?
And I was like, I fucking hate them. I can't
even watch Laura in Order without not sleeping. So we
went to see that movie. I have never been so traumatized.
I had to move my bed into my sister's room
for three months because I couldn't sleep in a room
by myself.
Speaker 1 (08:45):
And you gave all of that up for hoy for
a boy at eleven. So we like, who are we
to judge? Ariel? Who are we to judge?
Speaker 2 (08:54):
You get it sis, you get that dick, You swap
your tail for legs, and you enjoy that vagina.
Speaker 1 (09:00):
A thousand pers Oh true dat? Yeah all right? Bell,
Oh my girl.
Speaker 2 (09:05):
Stockholm syndrome. Yeah, I mean the writings are on the wall, right,
she fell for her captor because he gave her a library. Yeah, well,
I understand that though like, but we're big reading girls.
Speaker 1 (09:15):
Yes, so I still like those stories.
Speaker 3 (09:18):
Like if I'm like, like all the books, like so
many of the books I read are about a captor
and they fall in love, and so I'm like, are
you interested in colts? I'm obsessed with colts, not being
in them, just to clarify, just running them, just.
Speaker 1 (09:38):
Creating them and then walking away. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (09:42):
So I'm just obsessed with like really just trapping people
inside of them.
Speaker 1 (09:46):
No, I just mind them so interesting?
Speaker 2 (09:49):
Why no? I get it though, because my pipe dream
is to have a library in my house. Unfultuately, that
shop to shit because I live in an apartment because
cost of living, I'm never going to have a library
in my house. So if a man presented me with
a library, I would probably stay too.
Speaker 1 (10:03):
Yes, on he looked like a monster. I think it also.
Speaker 2 (10:06):
Goes to show that her love language is gifts, and
I don't think that's her fault, because your love language
when you're young, assuming again, she's probably fifteen sixteen, Like
this is a child.
Speaker 1 (10:17):
It's she still as a hymen, does she? Because he's
pretty aggressive?
Speaker 3 (10:23):
Actually maybe not, but yeah, I think he like he
screams at her. He scares her and then God forbid,
he turns around and gives her a beautiful yellow dress,
and she's like, he loves me.
Speaker 1 (10:34):
He's just damaged. It's giving childhood trauma.
Speaker 3 (10:37):
It's giving like she has experienced, you know, trauma in
her past, and so you know, she's just attaching that.
Speaker 1 (10:46):
I don't know it feels relative to me.
Speaker 2 (10:47):
I'm going to assume that it's coming from her mom
because her dad's in the movie and he's a beautiful
little Inventor member. He's that tiny little guy, but her
mom is not. Actually, do any of them have moms?
Although the good question I feel like I'm just having
an epiphany.
Speaker 3 (11:01):
Or their parents always die, yeah, or it's an evil stepmom.
Speaker 1 (11:04):
Yeah yeah, true.
Speaker 2 (11:06):
Ariel doesn't have a mum, Bell doesn't have a mum,
Elsa dies snow white.
Speaker 1 (11:10):
Oh my god, none of them have mums. Okay, well
that no wonder they're not making decisions, No wonder they're
choosing these awful, horrible men. I mean, they're not that
horribleer no.
Speaker 2 (11:23):
And I mean we've all had toxic relationships. This is
an example that I have from when I wasn't in
my teens, I was in my twenties. My last year,
I was dating this toxic guy. Yeah, it's actually my grandboyfriend.
I'm kidding. I was dating a guy in my twenties
and it was horrific. It was so toxic, it was
so tumultuous. And one year on my birthday, I was
living with my mum at the time, he broke into
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the house into my mum's house and left a box
of Macarons in the fridge because I love Macarons. And
at the time, I was like, that is so cute,
And in hindsight, I'm like, that is fucked up.
Speaker 1 (11:55):
Do you know what?
Speaker 3 (11:55):
Though? The book that I'm reading at the moment is
about it's like everyone's like read it.
Speaker 1 (12:00):
It's so weird and it has like.
Speaker 3 (12:02):
Forty trigger warnings. At the beginning of it, I loading
like parablysm and I'm.
Speaker 1 (12:06):
Like, what am I getting myself?
Speaker 2 (12:08):
I saw your Instagram story about this the other That's what.
Speaker 3 (12:11):
This guy does in the book. He'll like break into
a house and do nice shit. And at first I
was like, oh, my god, so scared, but I'm like, well,
he's kind of lovely, and then I'm like, oh, we're
like this is a very slippery slope that we're on.
But I think that too.
Speaker 2 (12:24):
It all falls back into the same pattern, and it's
not that you're falling for the guy, it's that you're
falling for the potential and.
Speaker 1 (12:30):
Like the what ifs.
Speaker 2 (12:32):
Yeah, you know, like she's looking at the beast and
she's like, I know, deep down he's a good person,
but he breaks furniture and he rips things, and he
has a tail, and he roars and he's very hairy.
Speaker 3 (12:48):
But like the fact that she she does understand red flags,
because Gaston is obviously a big, giant, walking red flag.
But he's like if he's like ninety percent of the
guys getting around these days.
Speaker 2 (13:01):
I mean, I don't know what this says about me,
but I'd fuck gast On.
Speaker 1 (13:07):
I probably would, but I wouldn't date him.
Speaker 3 (13:09):
I probably would for a bed back in the day,
for sure.
Speaker 1 (13:13):
Oh back in the day one, Yeah.
Speaker 3 (13:15):
I would have dated him, and he would have been awful,
and I would have been obsessed with him and in
love with him, or at least like I would have
convinced myself that.
Speaker 1 (13:25):
Do you think I'm odd? It's just that I'm not
sure I fit in here. There's no one I can
really talk to.
Speaker 2 (13:32):
A little bit more modern Elsa. Yeah, bipolo slash unmedicated anxiety.
Speaker 1 (13:40):
Oh, the anxiety.
Speaker 2 (13:41):
It's not very hard to see that she operates in
very dramatic extremes. She is very low and then she
is very high. She's got big mood swings, and you
can't tell what's going to happen when she's in one
of her manic episodes. Yeah. Okay, so we first meet Elsa.
She will not come out of her room, she will
(14:01):
not talk to anyone. She's noncommunication, she's nonverbal in a
low Yeah. Then all of a sudden she comes out
to celebrate Coronation Day. Then she flips a fucking switch,
loses her shit, bucks up the coronation day for everyone, disappears,
builds up ice castle.
Speaker 1 (14:20):
You never see her again.
Speaker 2 (14:22):
Yeah, true, true, true, very traumatic pendulum swing.
Speaker 1 (14:28):
Yeah, I see that.
Speaker 3 (14:29):
It's just unfortunate that she shoots ice from her hand
because of that, that makes her more dangerous.
Speaker 1 (14:35):
Yeah. Yeah, but the reason.
Speaker 2 (14:37):
Actually no, it's sort of giving medicator to me because
as someone who has also medicated for anxiety, I can
say that the line she literally sings conceal, don't feel,
and that to me is giving someone who's on a
hundred milligrams of zolof today. She is doing anything she
can to conceal those feelings because she knows.
Speaker 1 (14:59):
What's going to happen. You know.
Speaker 2 (15:01):
It's like, that's why I busy myself with work all
the time, because if I stop and slow down, I
don't want to be alone with my own thoughts. That's terrifying.
So I get it.
Speaker 3 (15:09):
Yes, and she knows that she like doesn't trust herself, she.
Speaker 1 (15:12):
Knows she can be a danger to.
Speaker 2 (15:14):
Others and even trust herself and a sister.
Speaker 1 (15:16):
My god, she truly just needs therapies. It's a lonely life.
Speaker 2 (15:19):
Yeah, yeah, it's a very very lonely life.
Speaker 1 (15:23):
But like she can sing, you know what I mean?
Can sing, and sometimes, like the best artists are the
most troubled.
Speaker 2 (15:30):
I feel like you can't really be a good artist
unless you have some trauma or some baggage or something. Yeah,
you know, there's got to be some emotion behind those notes.
Speaker 1 (15:41):
But I still do love love, love.
Speaker 2 (15:42):
The dynamic of frozen, and that your sisters love saves her,
not the man's, because you don't need a man's. You
just need love. You don't really matter where it's coming from. Yeah,
as long as it's.
Speaker 1 (15:52):
Reciprocal, that is the main thing.
Speaker 2 (15:58):
As long as everyone is of a legal age. Speaking
of snow White, of not being as the youngest of
them all, she gives very young energy to me.
Speaker 3 (16:09):
Yes, she is like a genuine child.
Speaker 2 (16:11):
A genuine child diagnosed with OCD yes.
Speaker 1 (16:16):
Think about it.
Speaker 2 (16:17):
She walks into a stranger's house in the middle of
the woods and obsessively starts cleaning it.
Speaker 1 (16:22):
Mm hmmmm hmm.
Speaker 2 (16:23):
No one's asked you to do that. That's a coping mechanism.
That's not an active kindness or an active service.
Speaker 3 (16:30):
And like all her little friends, like the seven Dwarves,
what does the psychologists reckon about them?
Speaker 2 (16:36):
Okay, well, this is what I reckon about them. It's
one thing to obsess over doing the cleaning yourself, but
she also micromanages the Dwarf's hygiene. So you know how
she asks them to wash their hands before dinner, which
I think is a fair request, like washing your hands
before you eat is fine, But she's very particular about
the method in which they wash their hands. There's a
whole song about it. Fuck up because he is not
(17:01):
interested in doing it to the way that she is
whole in them for this incredibly high hygiene standard.
Speaker 1 (17:07):
Yeah, and he kind of has enough.
Speaker 2 (17:09):
Yeah, one of them ends up swallowing the soap like
it's it's a lot.
Speaker 3 (17:12):
That's like just my every day with my kids. I
was just like, that's like four o'clock every day. So
I'm like, snow White, I get you, girl, Like that.
Speaker 2 (17:23):
Is hard, Okay, So maybe I'm being too hard on her.
Speaker 3 (17:27):
Yeah, maybe she's just she like I think if you
had seven children and they're not her kids, but just
like for argument's sake, she's well, they look like they
look like, well they they have gone look after us,
that's what they've gone.
Speaker 1 (17:40):
They have like she's just down them alone, abandoned in
a house in the woods.
Speaker 3 (17:44):
Literally, she's like she's goldilocked them. She's just wandered on
in and they've gone they're the captor. They're like okay, whatever,
there the bell, you know, and she's walked in and
she's just like wash your hands, do this. But she's
cleaning up the house, and they're quite happy to, like,
you know, give her the responsibility of all of that.
Speaker 1 (18:02):
They're like fucking finally, you know.
Speaker 3 (18:06):
And if I was like trying to micromanage seven children.
Speaker 1 (18:09):
Adults, whoever they are. I'd probably be a fucking drill
sergeant too.
Speaker 2 (18:13):
You've got three and that sounds like a lot. I
mean I've got none. I've got a tiny dog who's
not even two kilos and that's enough for me.
Speaker 1 (18:21):
Like my lizard is probably bigger than your dog. I
love your lizard.
Speaker 2 (18:27):
But again, I really resonated as a child with the
way that she is so friendly to all the animals.
And I used to stand on my balcony with my
finger out like this, waiting for a bird to fall
onto my finger. Wouldn't recommend that in Queensland because we
had fucking plovers in our backyard and you don't want
a plover to land on your finger because you're going
to lose an eye. But beautiful sentiment being friends with animals.
Speaker 3 (18:49):
I definitely did a lot of singing in the backyard
for many, many different reasons. I genuinely thought life was
a musical and maybe I just had a lot.
Speaker 1 (18:58):
Going on in my life. I still do. It's okay,
It's okay, and I'd be like looking out the window, snow.
Speaker 2 (19:04):
What was actually the first movie I ever saw at
the cinema. My dad took me to see it, and
I am still I can still remember. It's probably my
first memory. I was so scared when the Witch came
out with the Apple.
Speaker 1 (19:15):
Too scary for me. It's scary.
Speaker 3 (19:18):
I think I watched it once and then it scared
me and I didn't watch it again. And I'm not
watching the remake because everyone says it sucks.
Speaker 2 (19:26):
My friend took her we're all daughter to see it
at the movies because she thought it was like for kids.
Speaker 1 (19:31):
Oh and it's not. It's definitely not.
Speaker 2 (19:33):
I just it okay. Well, it's also quite dark and
quite scary. Next is Aurora aka Sleeping Beauty. Yeah, and
she has deep depression.
Speaker 1 (19:45):
Oh right, I thought she had like what's it called,
like nick nicclepto.
Speaker 2 (19:51):
Actually, so I interpreted it as like a deep depressive episode. So,
for example, one thing goes wrong in her life and
she's like, fuck this, I'm going to bed for one
hundred years, which I actually respect because as an ANXIOU,
when one thing goes wrong in my life, I wish
I could roll over and go to sleep, But I
wouldn't sleep for a hundred years because I'd be replaying
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that scenario over and over and over in my head.
Same that being able to sleep it off would actually
be probably a lot easier.
Speaker 3 (20:21):
Because otherwise it's just like being trapped in some sort
of prison and then like but the Prince coming along
and kissing.
Speaker 1 (20:29):
Her out of it.
Speaker 2 (20:31):
I mean, the prince comes along and kisses most of
them out of it. Snow White.
Speaker 1 (20:36):
Aurora.
Speaker 3 (20:37):
I'm quite grateful for the new way that Disney is
sort of like moving because you know, there's less. I
think there's like mums now maybe like these children who
actually know they still kill off the parents.
Speaker 1 (20:52):
Yeah time. Well, actually I don't think her parents died.
I think she was snatched. Oh at the start, I
have staked so long.
Speaker 3 (21:02):
Sleeping Beauty was one that I like watched and I liked,
but it wasn't one of my favorites.
Speaker 2 (21:06):
It is kind of though, a bit of nothingness in
comparison to the other ones, Like it's a little bit
like Vanilla.
Speaker 3 (21:11):
Well, I feel like everything that happens before she falls
asleep is pretty boring.
Speaker 1 (21:16):
Yeah, I mean sleep for most of the movie. To
be honest, now I think about it, it kind of
all sucks.
Speaker 2 (21:22):
In her defense, I'm asleep most of the time, I'm
watching a movie, so I can't you know. And then
to finish it off, we have Cinderella, Oh yes, who
is a classic ye of codependency, also no boundaries. So
firstly she let her stepsisters and her stepmum ruin her
fucking life, doesn't ask for help, carries on like is
(21:47):
she people please today? Massive people please? Huge people, massive
people please? Are I think the codependency isn't just evident
in like you said, the animals that she befriends, or
just the prince at the end. Think about the fairy godmother. Yeah,
she forms this instant, probably slightly healthy attachment to a
woman who gave her a makeover once and then disappeared.
Speaker 3 (22:10):
In her defense, I would too if I literally like had.
Speaker 1 (22:15):
Step mom and these like shitty stepsisters, and I was
just their slave.
Speaker 3 (22:22):
And my only friends were animals, like not even full
fucking animals, but rodents.
Speaker 1 (22:27):
They were my only friends.
Speaker 2 (22:29):
Of that one girls with the cheese and he couldn't
even do his pants on.
Speaker 3 (22:32):
Yeah literally, and like and I could talk to them,
but I can't talk to them, And like that was
my everyday in and out. And then a fairy godmother
came along and was like, here's a beautiful dress. She
couldn't get rid of me. There's no way she couldn't
get rid of me. I would be like, you're my mum.
Speaker 1 (22:49):
Now.
Speaker 2 (22:49):
I mean the way that I relate to this as
well is it kind of is the same energy as
when you meet a goal drunk at a nightclub or
at a bar or something. Yeah, and it's like you
form this instant attachment. Yeah, that is incredibly strong, and
all the time spent is like you might wash and
dry your hands and like linger at the dryer for
a little bit, but you've gone deep. You're attached. You've
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probably exchanged instagrams, exchanged phone numbers.
Speaker 1 (23:14):
Like that is BD. Yeah, it's a deep bond that infiltrates. Yeah,
she's your brads.
Speaker 2 (23:21):
Yeah, you've trauma bonded essentially. And I feel like that
is a similar energy that the Fairy Godmother and Cinderella
kind of give.
Speaker 1 (23:29):
Yeah yeah, yeah trauma.
Speaker 3 (23:30):
Well maybe this is just my like whimsical thinking, but
I'm like, well, she's the she the fairy Godmother came
along and she changed her life, Like she really is
just her fairy godmother, and so I'd be obsessed with
her also.
Speaker 2 (23:45):
Yeah, I mean I want someone to call me a
fair godmother.
Speaker 1 (23:49):
Yeah yeah, yeah, yes, I take it as well.
Speaker 2 (23:52):
I think the codependency also comes like she needs to
be saved. She's a classic goal.
Speaker 1 (23:57):
He needs to be saved.
Speaker 2 (23:58):
So she has one dance with Prince Charming at the ball.
I don't think they even really talk, and she's like,
it's fine, and he'll save me. He didn't even ask
for my name, but he knows my shoe size.
Speaker 1 (24:09):
That is, do you know what that is?
Speaker 3 (24:11):
That's when like back in the day, when you'd go clubbing.
I say back in the day because it truly was.
It was back way back in the day. I'm pushing
thirty six.
Speaker 1 (24:18):
It was a long time. It was a long time ago.
Speaker 3 (24:21):
And when you're drunk and then you meet a guy
at the club and you know, it's like like, what,
what's this song like falling in love in the club
or what? And like truly, all of a sudden, you
are just like dancing with this guy and you're just
having this absolute romance within like an hour, dancing to
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pit Bull.
Speaker 2 (24:43):
And why did I know you were going to say,
because that was the era that I was dancing. I
think it's there's something in his work, like in those
songs that is so all consuming. Because I had that
experience with he was actually a friend at the time,
and then we were dancing at the club and that
song give me reading. It's like about like one night,
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this is it.
Speaker 1 (25:08):
We've always got one night.
Speaker 2 (25:10):
Yeah, and somehow ended up back at his place and
I was like, what the fuck have you done? You've
just lost a friend.
Speaker 1 (25:17):
That song was a meat cute.
Speaker 2 (25:18):
Literally, it's dangerous if your song should not be listened
to if you are more than three drinks deep.
Speaker 1 (25:25):
Because you will be like, that's my husband.
Speaker 2 (25:27):
Now things will happen that guy, and suddenly Cinderella won't
look so tragic.
Speaker 3 (25:31):
Yeah, he buys you three drinks and you're like, I'm
gonna marry this guy. And then and then you wake
up the next morning and you're like, who the I
don't even know who his fucking name.
Speaker 2 (25:39):
I mean, in this economy, probably take a lot less
than that. Do you know how much three drinks is
the RP on three drinks in twenty twenty five?
Speaker 1 (25:47):
Yeah, true, true, true, true true. You're like you are
my husband.
Speaker 2 (25:49):
So in summary, I feel like these girls don't need
princes no need therapy, therapy and medication. You know, like
we watch these things as children and we look on
it and think it's so magical, but in hindsight as
an adult, you're watching on thinking, babe, you need a
man tool health care plan. They will have child of
drama to trauma, and.
Speaker 3 (26:11):
Then they end up in these like drastic relationships. They
get love bombed so quickly. I mean, they really are
just us.
Speaker 2 (26:19):
But I think it's okay because they've got beautiful soundtracks
and the magic still lives on.
Speaker 1 (26:24):
I'm just going to gloss over the fact.
Speaker 2 (26:26):
That we have spoken about everything today, try and continue
to find the magic to get the first forty eight
hours of.
Speaker 3 (26:34):
Their relationship with this guy that they've known for like
literally two days and so where like, and that's all.
Speaker 1 (26:40):
Anything that happens after that is not my business, right,
I mean people can change.
Speaker 2 (26:44):
Yeah, I mean I don't know about like the.
Speaker 3 (26:47):
Beast, but you know what, that's not that's not my responsibility.
Speaker 1 (26:52):
That's not much. That's none of my life. It's not
my monkeys.
Speaker 3 (26:55):
As soon as it said the end, we got cut
off from knowing anything that happened after that.
Speaker 1 (27:00):
It's not on us Mike mother would be so furious.
That's okay, I mean what, she doesn't know what would
kill her, right
Apodjay Production.
Speaker 2 (00:10):
I don't even know how to start this because I
haven't even gone through.
Speaker 1 (00:15):
How are we starting my podcast? Welcome to Unhinged.
Speaker 2 (00:23):
This is a podcast about the unfiltered, unhinged, and uncomfortably
relatable shit that you only talk about in your closest
group chat. I'm phoebe Well. Welcome to Unhinged. And Mickey Fisher.
Speaker 3 (00:37):
Hello, I'm very excited to be here because I feel
like I'm embody unhinged and what that means and what
that is please deepen my soul.
Speaker 1 (00:44):
That's how I feel.
Speaker 2 (00:45):
I'm so happy that you are my first guest, because
when you have a podcast that has called something like unhinged,
it's I feel like people could be borderline offended if
you're invited to be on the show.
Speaker 3 (00:56):
And to be fair, you did really well because I
didn't know the name of it until like two minutes ago,
and I said, what's the name of the new podcast?
Speaker 1 (01:04):
And he said Unhinged. I said perfect.
Speaker 2 (01:06):
I mean, and today we are jumping right in and
we are talking about Disney princesses because I feel like
as millennials, Disney is something that is so ingrained in us,
and I just feel like it really says a lot
about our upbringing and probably it really probably explains a
bit about why we are the way we are in adults.
Speaker 3 (01:28):
Oh absolutely, Like I'm pretty sure Disney princesses like our
blood type, and that's who inspired us. That's what we
learned about love through, you know, like taking a bite
out of a poisonous apple and hoping a prince will
come along and kiss us back to life. Like, that's
why we learned everything.
Speaker 1 (01:46):
One and all your dreams come true.
Speaker 2 (01:51):
But have you noticed in recent artwork, they've all had
work done, They've all had some cosmetic work done to
their faces because they're looking for a.
Speaker 3 (01:59):
Little bit the Disney princesses and also us.
Speaker 2 (02:06):
So I'm not sure if you're across there is actually
a theory going around social media right now where there's
a psychiatrist who believes that every Disney princess embodies a
different mental health disorder or condition. Okay, that feels right,
and that's what I want to chat to you about today.
And I think I just want to set the precedence
as someone who has several mental health conditions. I'm also medicated.
(02:26):
I'm in no way pointing fun of any of them.
I just want to chat about them because I feel
like maybe it will help you understand them all, maybe
it will help you understand yourself more.
Speaker 3 (02:36):
It's like doing a personality quiz, you know. That's what
I feel. I feel like anything. That's why it's like,
you know what friend's character are you?
Speaker 1 (02:43):
What?
Speaker 3 (02:43):
Disney Princess are you what? I don't know whatever? And
it's like that tells me so much about you.
Speaker 2 (02:48):
But I also think that the innuendo in Disney and
some of these things that will like chat about in
a second, it's not something you pick up until you
rewatch it again as an adult, kind of like movies
or like TV shows, Like you know, when you watch
something like ten Things I Hate About You back, or
you listen to Spice Girls Too Become one back as
an adult and you're like, damn, my mum, really let
me sing about sexual intercourse at seven years old.
Speaker 3 (03:10):
This is literally because I've got three young kids and
so and we listen only pretty much to like nineties
music and musical theater. Right, I'm like, my guys, today
we're learning about Brittany. We're listening to every single song
she's ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, done for you.
Speaker 1 (03:29):
I'm not even like work bitch comes on and my kids,
I mean, that's not a great moral.
Speaker 3 (03:34):
And like my son especially, he's a boy band kid,
and so like he's like, you know, getting into the
sexual literally this morning, and I'm like, get a boy
crowd so croud.
Speaker 1 (03:49):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (03:49):
So basically I hear. I experienced that every single day.
Love it so to set the presidents.
Speaker 2 (03:55):
Firstly, when you were a child, who was your favorite
to see Princess Belle?
Speaker 1 (04:00):
Yes?
Speaker 2 (04:01):
Yeah, mine was Cinderella. Oh okay, it's changed in adulthood.
So as an adult, do you have a different favorite
one or.
Speaker 3 (04:08):
I've been Bell from the beginning and I'm still team Bell.
Speaker 1 (04:12):
Hello Bell? Was you a guest on?
Speaker 2 (04:15):
Guest On?
Speaker 1 (04:15):
May I have my book? Please? How can you read this?
There's no pictures? Well, some people use their imagination.
Speaker 3 (04:22):
I love reading, she loved reading. I have brown hair,
she has brown hair.
Speaker 2 (04:29):
I feel like as a child, the looks one really
got to you. Like you associated with the one that
you look the most like, which I think is true
about a lot of things. But in my adult life,
I think I am very much team Ariel now because
I think she's very misunderstood Yeah, she's chaotic, she's a
hot mess, all of things which are relate to. So
we're going to start with Ariel. Okay, her diagnosis, yeah,
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is that she's a hoarder and she has compulsive decision making.
Speaker 1 (04:54):
Hoarder is so that's funny.
Speaker 2 (04:56):
It's very accurate though, because she has a cave full
of literal human junk that she guards with her life.
Speaker 1 (05:03):
Yeah, but I'm like, is that hort or?
Speaker 3 (05:05):
Is that a special interest? Well, she calls them who's
it's and what's its galore? I know, but it's like
she's obsessed with human life. So to me, I'm like,
that's like a forty year old who's got a house
full of Pokemon. That's like they love pokemon, right they
do you still consider that halting? No, Like she puts
her life on the line. Remember that shark tries to
come in attack and she's like, bitch.
Speaker 1 (05:25):
Get away from my my special thing. These are my things.
Speaker 2 (05:30):
So I just feel like that is also like evidence
that you're a great collector, but also the evidence is
there that you probably need an intervention or at the
bare minimum some Maricondo like, yeah, we need to decide what,
like which of these like forks fill you with joy, right,
I mean I did used to brush my hair with
a fork when I was a child.
Speaker 1 (05:51):
That had a really big impact on me.
Speaker 2 (05:53):
But I feel like again she's she explicitly says it,
you know that bit in the song where she's like,
you want thinghama bots, I forgot twenty.
Speaker 1 (06:02):
Hairs, No big deal. I want more? No, you don't.
You don't need more, You've got enough.
Speaker 3 (06:12):
Yeah, yeah, true, And it's like they're consumerism, although like
at least it's all secondhand things, you know what I mean?
Speaker 1 (06:18):
Absolutely?
Speaker 2 (06:19):
I mean I feel like, in comparison to the compulsive
decision making, the hoarding is probably the least.
Speaker 1 (06:24):
Of just.
Speaker 2 (06:26):
Because Sis gave up her voice and her family for
a man she had never had a two way conversation with.
Speaker 1 (06:34):
Yeah, she said that Dick looks like could be that good.
Speaker 2 (06:38):
I mean, we've all done it, but I feel like
she our version of impulse decisions is like making an
impulse purchase, but with hers, there's no return policy on that.
You have literally given up your entire life for this man.
Speaker 1 (06:54):
I feel like when you think about her age as well,
so this is I'm pretty sure she's like not even
sixteen she is a child, well she's the younger sister. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (07:02):
Literally, And so when I was that age, and if
there was like a handsome prince and I was like
I just want to be a real girl with legs
or whatever, and this handsome prince is like interested me,
or I'm obsessed with him.
Speaker 1 (07:15):
Like a stalker, whatever it is.
Speaker 3 (07:18):
If I had some camp octopus come and sing me
a song and say like, my bad, how bad do
you want this boy? I think I'd probably say yes,
just even for the plot at that age, because like
when you're when you're fifteen years old, you're not thinking
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about like consequences.
Speaker 1 (07:42):
You're just like I want to I want to be
with that boy. It's actually true.
Speaker 2 (07:47):
I did probably mold myself a little bit to my
crush at the time. Like one time I was dating
this sorry not dating this guy, looking upon this guy
in primary school. He liked like tomboy girls, and I
am like the least tomboy girl you could possibly bleed
meat in your entire life. And I was like, that's it.
I'm gonna be tom boy. I'm throwing away all of
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my pink attire. I'm doing this. I'm doing that because
he is gonna like me. He didn't like me. I
was just dressing up essentially. When I went on my
very first date, I was in grade six or grade seven,
so in primary school, and I can't do horror. And
the boy I was dating at the time, to the
age of eleven, was like, let's go to the movies
(08:30):
and see what lies beneath? Do you like scary movies?
And I was like, I fucking hate them. I can't
even watch Laura in Order without not sleeping. So we
went to see that movie. I have never been so traumatized.
I had to move my bed into my sister's room
for three months because I couldn't sleep in a room
by myself.
Speaker 1 (08:45):
And you gave all of that up for hoy for
a boy at eleven. So we like, who are we
to judge? Ariel? Who are we to judge?
Speaker 2 (08:54):
You get it sis, you get that dick, You swap
your tail for legs, and you enjoy that vagina.
Speaker 1 (09:00):
A thousand pers Oh true dat? Yeah all right? Bell,
Oh my girl.
Speaker 2 (09:05):
Stockholm syndrome. Yeah, I mean the writings are on the wall, right,
she fell for her captor because he gave her a library. Yeah, well,
I understand that though like, but we're big reading girls.
Speaker 1 (09:15):
Yes, so I still like those stories.
Speaker 3 (09:18):
Like if I'm like, like all the books, like so
many of the books I read are about a captor
and they fall in love, and so I'm like, are
you interested in colts? I'm obsessed with colts, not being
in them, just to clarify, just running them, just.
Speaker 1 (09:38):
Creating them and then walking away. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (09:42):
So I'm just obsessed with like really just trapping people
inside of them.
Speaker 1 (09:46):
No, I just mind them so interesting?
Speaker 2 (09:49):
Why no? I get it though, because my pipe dream
is to have a library in my house. Unfultuately, that
shop to shit because I live in an apartment because
cost of living, I'm never going to have a library
in my house. So if a man presented me with
a library, I would probably stay too.
Speaker 1 (10:03):
Yes, on he looked like a monster. I think it also.
Speaker 2 (10:06):
Goes to show that her love language is gifts, and
I don't think that's her fault, because your love language
when you're young, assuming again, she's probably fifteen sixteen, Like
this is a child.
Speaker 1 (10:17):
It's she still as a hymen, does she? Because he's
pretty aggressive?
Speaker 3 (10:23):
Actually maybe not, but yeah, I think he like he
screams at her. He scares her and then God forbid,
he turns around and gives her a beautiful yellow dress,
and she's like, he loves me.
Speaker 1 (10:34):
He's just damaged. It's giving childhood trauma.
Speaker 3 (10:37):
It's giving like she has experienced, you know, trauma in
her past, and so you know, she's just attaching that.
Speaker 1 (10:46):
I don't know it feels relative to me.
Speaker 2 (10:47):
I'm going to assume that it's coming from her mom
because her dad's in the movie and he's a beautiful
little Inventor member. He's that tiny little guy, but her
mom is not. Actually, do any of them have moms?
Although the good question I feel like I'm just having
an epiphany.
Speaker 3 (11:01):
Or their parents always die, yeah, or it's an evil stepmom.
Speaker 1 (11:04):
Yeah yeah, true.
Speaker 2 (11:06):
Ariel doesn't have a mum, Bell doesn't have a mum,
Elsa dies snow white.
Speaker 1 (11:10):
Oh my god, none of them have mums. Okay, well
that no wonder they're not making decisions, No wonder they're
choosing these awful, horrible men. I mean, they're not that
horribleer no.
Speaker 2 (11:23):
And I mean we've all had toxic relationships. This is
an example that I have from when I wasn't in
my teens, I was in my twenties. My last year,
I was dating this toxic guy. Yeah, it's actually my grandboyfriend.
I'm kidding. I was dating a guy in my twenties
and it was horrific. It was so toxic, it was
so tumultuous. And one year on my birthday, I was
living with my mum at the time, he broke into
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the house into my mum's house and left a box
of Macarons in the fridge because I love Macarons. And
at the time, I was like, that is so cute,
And in hindsight, I'm like, that is fucked up.
Speaker 1 (11:55):
Do you know what?
Speaker 3 (11:55):
Though? The book that I'm reading at the moment is
about it's like everyone's like read it.
Speaker 1 (12:00):
It's so weird and it has like.
Speaker 3 (12:02):
Forty trigger warnings. At the beginning of it, I loading
like parablysm and I'm.
Speaker 1 (12:06):
Like, what am I getting myself?
Speaker 2 (12:08):
I saw your Instagram story about this the other That's what.
Speaker 3 (12:11):
This guy does in the book. He'll like break into
a house and do nice shit. And at first I
was like, oh, my god, so scared, but I'm like, well,
he's kind of lovely, and then I'm like, oh, we're
like this is a very slippery slope that we're on.
But I think that too.
Speaker 2 (12:24):
It all falls back into the same pattern, and it's
not that you're falling for the guy, it's that you're
falling for the potential and.
Speaker 1 (12:30):
Like the what ifs.
Speaker 2 (12:32):
Yeah, you know, like she's looking at the beast and
she's like, I know, deep down he's a good person,
but he breaks furniture and he rips things, and he
has a tail, and he roars and he's very hairy.
Speaker 3 (12:48):
But like the fact that she she does understand red flags,
because Gaston is obviously a big, giant, walking red flag.
But he's like if he's like ninety percent of the
guys getting around these days.
Speaker 2 (13:01):
I mean, I don't know what this says about me,
but I'd fuck gast On.
Speaker 1 (13:07):
I probably would, but I wouldn't date him.
Speaker 3 (13:09):
I probably would for a bed back in the day,
for sure.
Speaker 1 (13:13):
Oh back in the day one, Yeah.
Speaker 3 (13:15):
I would have dated him, and he would have been awful,
and I would have been obsessed with him and in
love with him, or at least like I would have
convinced myself that.
Speaker 1 (13:25):
Do you think I'm odd? It's just that I'm not
sure I fit in here. There's no one I can
really talk to.
Speaker 2 (13:32):
A little bit more modern Elsa. Yeah, bipolo slash unmedicated anxiety.
Speaker 1 (13:40):
Oh, the anxiety.
Speaker 2 (13:41):
It's not very hard to see that she operates in
very dramatic extremes. She is very low and then she
is very high. She's got big mood swings, and you
can't tell what's going to happen when she's in one
of her manic episodes. Yeah. Okay, so we first meet Elsa.
She will not come out of her room, she will
(14:01):
not talk to anyone. She's noncommunication, she's nonverbal in a
low Yeah. Then all of a sudden she comes out
to celebrate Coronation Day. Then she flips a fucking switch,
loses her shit, bucks up the coronation day for everyone, disappears,
builds up ice castle.
Speaker 1 (14:20):
You never see her again.
Speaker 2 (14:22):
Yeah, true, true, true, very traumatic pendulum swing.
Speaker 1 (14:28):
Yeah, I see that.
Speaker 3 (14:29):
It's just unfortunate that she shoots ice from her hand
because of that, that makes her more dangerous.
Speaker 1 (14:35):
Yeah. Yeah, but the reason.
Speaker 2 (14:37):
Actually no, it's sort of giving medicator to me because
as someone who has also medicated for anxiety, I can
say that the line she literally sings conceal, don't feel,
and that to me is giving someone who's on a
hundred milligrams of zolof today. She is doing anything she
can to conceal those feelings because she knows.
Speaker 1 (14:59):
What's going to happen. You know.
Speaker 2 (15:01):
It's like, that's why I busy myself with work all
the time, because if I stop and slow down, I
don't want to be alone with my own thoughts. That's terrifying.
So I get it.
Speaker 3 (15:09):
Yes, and she knows that she like doesn't trust herself, she.
Speaker 1 (15:12):
Knows she can be a danger to.
Speaker 2 (15:14):
Others and even trust herself and a sister.
Speaker 1 (15:16):
My god, she truly just needs therapies. It's a lonely life.
Speaker 2 (15:19):
Yeah, yeah, it's a very very lonely life.
Speaker 1 (15:23):
But like she can sing, you know what I mean?
Can sing, and sometimes, like the best artists are the
most troubled.
Speaker 2 (15:30):
I feel like you can't really be a good artist
unless you have some trauma or some baggage or something. Yeah,
you know, there's got to be some emotion behind those notes.
Speaker 1 (15:41):
But I still do love love, love.
Speaker 2 (15:42):
The dynamic of frozen, and that your sisters love saves her,
not the man's, because you don't need a man's. You
just need love. You don't really matter where it's coming from. Yeah,
as long as it's.
Speaker 1 (15:52):
Reciprocal, that is the main thing.
Speaker 2 (15:58):
As long as everyone is of a legal age. Speaking
of snow White, of not being as the youngest of
them all, she gives very young energy to me.
Speaker 3 (16:09):
Yes, she is like a genuine child.
Speaker 2 (16:11):
A genuine child diagnosed with OCD yes.
Speaker 1 (16:16):
Think about it.
Speaker 2 (16:17):
She walks into a stranger's house in the middle of
the woods and obsessively starts cleaning it.
Speaker 1 (16:22):
Mm hmmmm hmm.
Speaker 2 (16:23):
No one's asked you to do that. That's a coping mechanism.
That's not an active kindness or an active service.
Speaker 3 (16:30):
And like all her little friends, like the seven Dwarves,
what does the psychologists reckon about them?
Speaker 2 (16:36):
Okay, well, this is what I reckon about them. It's
one thing to obsess over doing the cleaning yourself, but
she also micromanages the Dwarf's hygiene. So you know how
she asks them to wash their hands before dinner, which
I think is a fair request, like washing your hands
before you eat is fine, But she's very particular about
the method in which they wash their hands. There's a
whole song about it. Fuck up because he is not
(17:01):
interested in doing it to the way that she is
whole in them for this incredibly high hygiene standard.
Speaker 1 (17:07):
Yeah, and he kind of has enough.
Speaker 2 (17:09):
Yeah, one of them ends up swallowing the soap like
it's it's a lot.
Speaker 3 (17:12):
That's like just my every day with my kids. I
was just like, that's like four o'clock every day. So
I'm like, snow White, I get you, girl, Like that.
Speaker 2 (17:23):
Is hard, Okay, So maybe I'm being too hard on her.
Speaker 3 (17:27):
Yeah, maybe she's just she like I think if you
had seven children and they're not her kids, but just
like for argument's sake, she's well, they look like they
look like, well they they have gone look after us,
that's what they've gone.
Speaker 1 (17:40):
They have like she's just down them alone, abandoned in
a house in the woods.
Speaker 3 (17:44):
Literally, she's like she's goldilocked them. She's just wandered on
in and they've gone they're the captor. They're like okay, whatever,
there the bell, you know, and she's walked in and
she's just like wash your hands, do this. But she's
cleaning up the house, and they're quite happy to, like,
you know, give her the responsibility of all of that.
Speaker 1 (18:02):
They're like fucking finally, you know.
Speaker 3 (18:06):
And if I was like trying to micromanage seven children.
Speaker 1 (18:09):
Adults, whoever they are. I'd probably be a fucking drill
sergeant too.
Speaker 2 (18:13):
You've got three and that sounds like a lot. I
mean I've got none. I've got a tiny dog who's
not even two kilos and that's enough for me.
Speaker 1 (18:21):
Like my lizard is probably bigger than your dog. I
love your lizard.
Speaker 2 (18:27):
But again, I really resonated as a child with the
way that she is so friendly to all the animals.
And I used to stand on my balcony with my
finger out like this, waiting for a bird to fall
onto my finger. Wouldn't recommend that in Queensland because we
had fucking plovers in our backyard and you don't want
a plover to land on your finger because you're going
to lose an eye. But beautiful sentiment being friends with animals.
Speaker 3 (18:49):
I definitely did a lot of singing in the backyard
for many, many different reasons. I genuinely thought life was
a musical and maybe I just had a lot.
Speaker 1 (18:58):
Going on in my life. I still do. It's okay,
It's okay, and I'd be like looking out the window, snow.
Speaker 2 (19:04):
What was actually the first movie I ever saw at
the cinema. My dad took me to see it, and
I am still I can still remember. It's probably my
first memory. I was so scared when the Witch came
out with the Apple.
Speaker 1 (19:15):
Too scary for me. It's scary.
Speaker 3 (19:18):
I think I watched it once and then it scared
me and I didn't watch it again. And I'm not
watching the remake because everyone says it sucks.
Speaker 2 (19:26):
My friend took her we're all daughter to see it
at the movies because she thought it was like for kids.
Speaker 1 (19:31):
Oh and it's not. It's definitely not.
Speaker 2 (19:33):
I just it okay. Well, it's also quite dark and
quite scary. Next is Aurora aka Sleeping Beauty. Yeah, and
she has deep depression.
Speaker 1 (19:45):
Oh right, I thought she had like what's it called,
like nick nicclepto.
Speaker 2 (19:51):
Actually, so I interpreted it as like a deep depressive episode. So,
for example, one thing goes wrong in her life and
she's like, fuck this, I'm going to bed for one
hundred years, which I actually respect because as an ANXIOU,
when one thing goes wrong in my life, I wish
I could roll over and go to sleep, But I
wouldn't sleep for a hundred years because I'd be replaying
(20:12):
that scenario over and over and over in my head.
Same that being able to sleep it off would actually
be probably a lot easier.
Speaker 3 (20:21):
Because otherwise it's just like being trapped in some sort
of prison and then like but the Prince coming along
and kissing.
Speaker 1 (20:29):
Her out of it.
Speaker 2 (20:31):
I mean, the prince comes along and kisses most of
them out of it. Snow White.
Speaker 1 (20:36):
Aurora.
Speaker 3 (20:37):
I'm quite grateful for the new way that Disney is
sort of like moving because you know, there's less. I
think there's like mums now maybe like these children who
actually know they still kill off the parents.
Speaker 1 (20:52):
Yeah time. Well, actually I don't think her parents died.
I think she was snatched. Oh at the start, I
have staked so long.
Speaker 3 (21:02):
Sleeping Beauty was one that I like watched and I liked,
but it wasn't one of my favorites.
Speaker 2 (21:06):
It is kind of though, a bit of nothingness in
comparison to the other ones, Like it's a little bit
like Vanilla.
Speaker 3 (21:11):
Well, I feel like everything that happens before she falls
asleep is pretty boring.
Speaker 1 (21:16):
Yeah, I mean sleep for most of the movie. To
be honest, now I think about it, it kind of
all sucks.
Speaker 2 (21:22):
In her defense, I'm asleep most of the time, I'm
watching a movie, so I can't you know. And then
to finish it off, we have Cinderella, Oh yes, who
is a classic ye of codependency, also no boundaries. So
firstly she let her stepsisters and her stepmum ruin her
fucking life, doesn't ask for help, carries on like is
(21:47):
she people please today? Massive people please? Huge people, massive
people please? Are I think the codependency isn't just evident
in like you said, the animals that she befriends, or
just the prince at the end. Think about the fairy godmother. Yeah,
she forms this instant, probably slightly healthy attachment to a
woman who gave her a makeover once and then disappeared.
Speaker 3 (22:10):
In her defense, I would too if I literally like had.
Speaker 1 (22:15):
Step mom and these like shitty stepsisters, and I was
just their slave.
Speaker 3 (22:22):
And my only friends were animals, like not even full
fucking animals, but rodents.
Speaker 1 (22:27):
They were my only friends.
Speaker 2 (22:29):
Of that one girls with the cheese and he couldn't
even do his pants on.
Speaker 3 (22:32):
Yeah literally, and like and I could talk to them,
but I can't talk to them, And like that was
my everyday in and out. And then a fairy godmother
came along and was like, here's a beautiful dress. She
couldn't get rid of me. There's no way she couldn't
get rid of me. I would be like, you're my mum.
Speaker 1 (22:49):
Now.
Speaker 2 (22:49):
I mean the way that I relate to this as
well is it kind of is the same energy as
when you meet a goal drunk at a nightclub or
at a bar or something. Yeah, and it's like you
form this instant attachment. Yeah, that is incredibly strong, and
all the time spent is like you might wash and
dry your hands and like linger at the dryer for
a little bit, but you've gone deep. You're attached. You've
(23:11):
probably exchanged instagrams, exchanged phone numbers.
Speaker 1 (23:14):
Like that is BD. Yeah, it's a deep bond that infiltrates. Yeah,
she's your brads.
Speaker 2 (23:21):
Yeah, you've trauma bonded essentially. And I feel like that
is a similar energy that the Fairy Godmother and Cinderella
kind of give.
Speaker 1 (23:29):
Yeah yeah, yeah trauma.
Speaker 3 (23:30):
Well maybe this is just my like whimsical thinking, but
I'm like, well, she's the she the fairy Godmother came
along and she changed her life, Like she really is
just her fairy godmother, and so I'd be obsessed with
her also.
Speaker 2 (23:45):
Yeah, I mean I want someone to call me a
fair godmother.
Speaker 1 (23:49):
Yeah yeah, yeah, yes, I take it as well.
Speaker 2 (23:52):
I think the codependency also comes like she needs to
be saved. She's a classic goal.
Speaker 1 (23:57):
He needs to be saved.
Speaker 2 (23:58):
So she has one dance with Prince Charming at the ball.
I don't think they even really talk, and she's like,
it's fine, and he'll save me. He didn't even ask
for my name, but he knows my shoe size.
Speaker 1 (24:09):
That is, do you know what that is?
Speaker 3 (24:11):
That's when like back in the day, when you'd go clubbing.
I say back in the day because it truly was.
It was back way back in the day. I'm pushing
thirty six.
Speaker 1 (24:18):
It was a long time. It was a long time ago.
Speaker 3 (24:21):
And when you're drunk and then you meet a guy
at the club and you know, it's like like, what,
what's this song like falling in love in the club
or what? And like truly, all of a sudden, you
are just like dancing with this guy and you're just
having this absolute romance within like an hour, dancing to
(24:41):
pit Bull.
Speaker 2 (24:43):
And why did I know you were going to say,
because that was the era that I was dancing. I
think it's there's something in his work, like in those
songs that is so all consuming. Because I had that
experience with he was actually a friend at the time,
and then we were dancing at the club and that
song give me reading. It's like about like one night,
(25:08):
this is it.
Speaker 1 (25:08):
We've always got one night.
Speaker 2 (25:10):
Yeah, and somehow ended up back at his place and
I was like, what the fuck have you done? You've
just lost a friend.
Speaker 1 (25:17):
That song was a meat cute.
Speaker 2 (25:18):
Literally, it's dangerous if your song should not be listened
to if you are more than three drinks deep.
Speaker 1 (25:25):
Because you will be like, that's my husband.
Speaker 2 (25:27):
Now things will happen that guy, and suddenly Cinderella won't
look so tragic.
Speaker 3 (25:31):
Yeah, he buys you three drinks and you're like, I'm
gonna marry this guy. And then and then you wake
up the next morning and you're like, who the I
don't even know who his fucking name.
Speaker 2 (25:39):
I mean, in this economy, probably take a lot less
than that. Do you know how much three drinks is
the RP on three drinks in twenty twenty five?
Speaker 1 (25:47):
Yeah, true, true, true, true true. You're like you are
my husband.
Speaker 2 (25:49):
So in summary, I feel like these girls don't need
princes no need therapy, therapy and medication. You know, like
we watch these things as children and we look on
it and think it's so magical, but in hindsight as
an adult, you're watching on thinking, babe, you need a
man tool health care plan. They will have child of
drama to trauma, and.
Speaker 3 (26:11):
Then they end up in these like drastic relationships. They
get love bombed so quickly. I mean, they really are
just us.
Speaker 2 (26:19):
But I think it's okay because they've got beautiful soundtracks
and the magic still lives on.
Speaker 1 (26:24):
I'm just going to gloss over the fact.
Speaker 2 (26:26):
That we have spoken about everything today, try and continue
to find the magic to get the first forty eight
hours of.
Speaker 3 (26:34):
Their relationship with this guy that they've known for like
literally two days and so where like, and that's all.
Speaker 1 (26:40):
Anything that happens after that is not my business, right,
I mean people can change.
Speaker 2 (26:44):
Yeah, I mean I don't know about like the.
Speaker 3 (26:47):
Beast, but you know what, that's not that's not my responsibility.
Speaker 1 (26:52):
That's not much. That's none of my life. It's not
my monkeys.
Speaker 3 (26:55):
As soon as it said the end, we got cut
off from knowing anything that happened after that.
Speaker 1 (27:00):
It's not on us Mike mother would be so furious.
That's okay, I mean what, she doesn't know what would
kill her, right
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