November 13, 2025 • 46 mins
In the first hour of the show, Wes and Flounder praise Walker for his Hornets broadcast appearance last night before the guys talk about the Hornets win over the Bucks and tell you if this is where Bryce needs an explosion game.
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Speaker 1 (00:08):
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Speaker 2 (00:23):
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It is a chill and thrill or thrill and chill.
What are we doing first here? According to Cannon, Yeah,
(00:44):
we got a thrill. We're thrilling first and then we're chilling. Yeah,
we'll all right. It's a thrill and chill Thursday on
Wes and Walker. Will thrill in maybe like the first
couple of hours, and then I guess we chill or
is it all thrilling?
Speaker 1 (00:57):
And then we chill after the show.
Speaker 3 (00:58):
Yeah, okay, I'd say I really chill thrill of the
fans and then we chill outter what do you.
Speaker 2 (01:03):
Guys want the fans, the listeners let us know on
the fandal text line seven oh four five seven oh
ninety six ten again that's seven oh four five seven
oh ninety six ten. You know how you're a great
legend in this business is when a certain show I
think starts their programs fifty percent of the time the
last two weeks by reiterating what you had just said
(01:24):
to us earlier, like what we do with Boom, I
mean the og game Spider, if you will, the true
game Spider. So shout out to Boom ONTs more. We're
doing it again percent rate. You're giving me the white guy,
you say, game Spider, Yeah, game Spiner. Well I am
white man, I know I am, I know for sure.
I mean, but you got flaved though, so you got
to give me that spin up. Well, like that's fifty
(01:44):
percent of the time too. Every once in a while,
I'll go, I'll put what I'm saying, I was about
to phrase that in a way I absolutely should not
phrase that, and I'll leave that up to your old imagination.
But yes, you know, I probably should have put a
little bit more flavor on it. But sometimes I don't
have flavor.
Speaker 3 (02:01):
Yeah, I mean, you know, I just couldn't imagine them
down Baby, and them down there in Louisiana say, hey, man,
are you a game spinner.
Speaker 2 (02:10):
It's a little nerdy, it's a it's a little it
needs some seasoning.
Speaker 3 (02:16):
It sounds good, you know what I'm saying? Yeah, yeah,
why does that Willy the way he says it's smooth.
It sounds good when it's coming out. It's just that
last little sure that we got to tweak. Well, No,
this is look, this is who I am. Man like this.
Speaker 1 (02:28):
You know sometimes I need a little bit more season
at home. And tell you a Gray said, baby, I'm
a game spider.
Speaker 2 (02:36):
I probably got a fifty percent rate on that actually
sounding very good as well. All right, people, right again
on the FanDuel text line. Again, that number is seven
oh four five, seven oh ninety six ten, and man,
we got some good news.
Speaker 4 (02:48):
To talk about.
Speaker 2 (02:49):
Yeah, how about the Hornets getting a dub last Yeah,
how about it? How about the Hornets balling out against Milwaukee. Okay,
there was no Giannis, but we looked damn good right
from the mill. Yeah, that's you know, we didn't have
our two best players and they didn't have their best one.
Who is I mean, I guess historically a good player.
(03:10):
It's like their best three. Yeah, he's their best four. Yeah,
I think you're probably right if you say he's their
best five. But even still the Hornets, I will say
they looked pretty dominant, the score being one eleven to
one hundred at the very end of this game. It
was only that close because I think college interesting basketball
names actually graced us with their presence in the fourth quarter.
(03:31):
How about Mark Spear or not Spears? Excuse me, Sears
was in there. You also had Pete Nance get some
run like all of these other and scored ten points
in lots four minutes. That's right, Pete Nance went for
ten points. Anyways, that was all garbage time. It didn't matter.
The Hornets got the dub.
Speaker 3 (03:49):
They looked fantastic, but they did, man, And so you
were happy for them just to get a win on
the board bring some positivity to news. What the Hornets
just has not been great with the injuries and all
the things that we talk about to feel like the
same song and dance, So for them to go out
there and get a win, uh. And I felt like
that was one of the reasons I had changed my pick,
because they played the Lakers pretty competitive for the most
part in that game, and so I felt like, I said, man,
(04:12):
you know, no Joannis tonight, I said, I think those boys,
they're a little bit upset how that Lakers game ended,
So I felt like that they would be able to
get this thing done, and they did.
Speaker 2 (04:21):
And shout out to Flounder for saving the prediction for
all of us not going hornets. He went Bucks, and
so whatever Flounder has been saying here recently, you usually
take the opposite route.
Speaker 5 (04:32):
Wait win thirty.
Speaker 3 (04:36):
So you can't use your powers like that, and it
has to come natural. It's got to be organic. The
things that you say, you can't just you know what
I'm saying, to take gods. They know when you're trying
to do that. I'm saying, yeah, they know. They don't
want to sing your heart. They are just shaking their
head at you right now.
Speaker 6 (04:50):
I have a bad feeling for Panther fans going into tomorrow.
Speaker 2 (04:54):
Oh no, really, you're feeling good about them. Huh, that's
not good, by the way, Yes, So I do appreciate
all the love. It's very weird self indulging. It's perhaps
more self indulging by admitting that it's self indulging, and
then you get in this inception of selfishness. But let's
just go ahead and address it. I appreciate all the
love for being on TV last night. A lot of
(05:16):
people writing in here on the Fandel text line, a
lot of love on Twitter. I really appreciate it. I
will tell you this. A couple of things that are
surprising about people responding to my TV appearance. One did
not expect to get that much love for the suit.
I need it from the actual og fashion god. Yeah,
well talk to me. I'm sitting there last night.
Speaker 3 (05:38):
You didn't You didn't tell me you were doing I didn't,
which was because it's surprising, but I didn't tell. So
I think that's why you get my love, because I
saw you do it before and the suit. It was
cool you would dress nice, but last night where you
would casket fresh. Okay, you know what I'm saying. Yeah,
we got blood and Guts going on the TV, and
I got the Hornets game going on the other one,
(05:59):
and I just happened to look down. I was like, oh, bleep,
that's Walker okay. And then my son says something. He's like, oh,
that's Walk on TV. I said yeah.
Speaker 1 (06:07):
I said, let's turn him up. And then I looked
at the suit. I said, oh, that boy ready to night.
Speaker 3 (06:11):
I said, he looked like an NBA analyst at the
finals tonight. Man, I told you looked like a Russian
assassin out there, because you know he got the little
drago looking here, du going a little bit minus the blonde,
so you know he's got the what do they call it?
Speaker 1 (06:25):
Volume? The volume was volume, man, Okay, you know, I
don't know the words for it, but volume.
Speaker 6 (06:32):
Yeah, your hair for you, You got to do your
own hair. Yeah, yeah, I ain't none of that happening
back then.
Speaker 3 (06:40):
Even he used to put his own makeup on back there,
So now ain't no glam squad.
Speaker 2 (06:45):
Yeah, yeah, you're doing everything yourself. Yeah, you got to
come right there. But I saw him with the jet
black suit.
Speaker 3 (06:50):
The tie gave it a nice pope and then the
light was hitting it just right there.
Speaker 1 (06:55):
That is the one good thing my hornets caught.
Speaker 6 (06:57):
Man.
Speaker 3 (06:57):
You can take some good pictures on that court board,
you fresh. You could take some real good pictures out there.
You know, I didn't take any thirst trap pictures last night.
I probably should have to put him out the GRAM
or something like that. My Graham needs a renovation. It
needs a lot. The most important part though, Yeah, did
you get that text?
Speaker 4 (07:15):
Fhm?
Speaker 3 (07:15):
I was saying, oh baby, you look good tonight. I
didn't get that text.
Speaker 1 (07:18):
No, I did not.
Speaker 2 (07:19):
Yeah, she she was more complimenting me, saying how well
I was doing. And I appreciated that, but it was
more for the job, you know, to be honest with you, No,
not really, not really thought yeh didn't have fresh suit.
Speaker 3 (07:32):
You want the woman to be not saying that she
would because she might have been just playing it cool.
She maybe didn't want to boost walk up too much.
She's already giving them to compliment. You want that text
to say you know you're looking real good, honey. Yeah,
I mean she did want Yeah, she doesn't want my yeah,
all right. She was looking at it, ready to crawl
(07:53):
through the screen. But she said, I'm not gonna, you know,
give this man too much. I'm already complementing a job
that he's doing.
Speaker 4 (07:59):
Right.
Speaker 2 (07:59):
She she's a little careful and how much praise she
gives me because she doesn't want me, in my ego
to get too big.
Speaker 5 (08:05):
And so I've always thought to you, like fitty very
big ego.
Speaker 2 (08:08):
Yeah, is that right? Please don't say that again. Don't that.
Don't you do that. We got people riding in panther
bo says casket fresh bro even your I never heard
that one looked white.
Speaker 1 (08:18):
I haven't either.
Speaker 2 (08:19):
It's it's a dark way to say, but.
Speaker 1 (08:23):
I do like it and it sounds very Southern.
Speaker 2 (08:25):
Yeah, I honestly think of Russian Assassin is the best
compliment that I've ever gotten out.
Speaker 1 (08:33):
I'd say I liked it, man, because it was because
is that one of the ones you got?
Speaker 4 (08:36):
Tailor?
Speaker 1 (08:37):
It looked like it, That's what I'm saying. So Showers
was right.
Speaker 3 (08:40):
I said, my dog looked like he is ready to
go in the build and put together you know what
I'm saying, the rifle and find the target and get
the job done.
Speaker 5 (08:49):
I mean he was more tailored than Travis Kelcey.
Speaker 1 (08:51):
Yeah, God like that.
Speaker 4 (08:54):
That's a right.
Speaker 2 (08:55):
That was a little bit of game spitting like that
was that was goodness. I mean, y'all, Okay, this needs
to happen more often. I've I've gone through three legitimate
spit takes. I don't do this often, but you guys
have the great lines and I appreciate that. And and
here's the other thing. You know how I've talked about
how I have a very weird body. I look like
a little bit of the wacky, flailing and inflatable arm
(09:19):
flailing food.
Speaker 1 (09:20):
Man.
Speaker 2 (09:20):
So like my arms are real long, they're too long
for my body. They're also very skinny. All that to say,
suits don't fit me very well off of the rack,
but I used to try to make it work here.
I am sound and bougie off the rack. Man, you
can't accuse me. You can't accuse me. I buy off
of the rack, now, Okay, I do that because one,
I don't have money like that. Target money is not
(09:43):
Balenciaga money. Some very different. But but if you go
get your suits altered, slash tailored, it's a life changer
for people that.
Speaker 1 (09:53):
And then hold on out.
Speaker 3 (09:55):
You know, Walk doesn't give himself enough credit because this
is coming off of when you want to suit to
that party that time with the turtleneck and you were
dead fresh too. Yeah, so that's what I'm saying, man, Man,
thank you. Yeah, that's what I do. And I'm not,
you know, I'm not. I don't dance unless I hit
mut No. I know when I saw it last night,
I said, oh my dog is fresh up this. You
(10:15):
got to make sure you, like I said, keep getting
on suits and getting them tailored. Man, you were ready
to go last night, info on point everything on point man.
I said that boy looked like he was ready for
the finals. Put them up there with Barkley and them
fan me down. Goodness, gracious. I appreciate all the love
man from everybody, right and inn I do want to
read a couple of these other texts. I mean, okay,
(10:36):
it all just became about my outfit because Mac was
saying the same thing.
Speaker 4 (10:39):
Yeah, Mac.
Speaker 2 (10:40):
He wrote in saying, hey, he's doing a great job
of representing us radio dudes. And apparently he called me hot.
And I appreciate it for Mac. I can recognize that.
I appreciate it. Love the love, the love from Mac.
I think somebody wrote here in a text message that
was sent like at the very beginning of the show,
and we got a lot to comb through here. Someone
wanted an NBAH raft style breakdown on my suit last night.
(11:02):
And they don't want it from me. They want it
from me, They want it from you. They want the
NBA draft style breakdown. No fire or fizzle here. I
don't want that. Just give me it. I got you.
Just give me a draft, all right.
Speaker 3 (11:13):
We got Walking Mayll coming in in six six around
two hundred and fifteen, two hundred and twenty pounds out.
The suit fits just right because the shoulders. That's a
key to a suit, you know what I'm saying for
anybody that wants to be able to pull it off. Dude,
the shoulders match. Yes, nice broad shoulders. Brings out the
suit very well. And then he's going all black there,
so he's given the all business vibe, but the tie
(11:35):
gives some pop.
Speaker 1 (11:36):
He's got some stripes in there.
Speaker 3 (11:38):
It's little design, so it gives it just enough that
where it's not too dark with it doesn't look like
he's going to somebody's funeral. But he looks like a
guy that's all business and he's coming in ready to go.
It's a great suit tailored very well. Whoever did that
chef's kiss for that? And he brings it out every
which way. The tall framing that he seems to, you know,
be self depreciating about at time, I thought, really brought
(12:01):
the suit out. So this is a first round level
suit right here. I love the projection here. I think
it could go down in a Hall of fame. All right,
thank you very much, Yes, all right. I don't know
how to handle all of this. This isn't even something
I hear from Olivia. To be honest with you, not
all of this Okay, Twitter, Wes Flounder Mac got a
(12:22):
lot of love from y'all today, and I'm overwhelmed.
Speaker 2 (12:25):
I'm overwhelmed with all the compliments. Okay, how about we
actually talk about what the Hornets did last night?
Speaker 1 (12:30):
Yeah, go for it. How about.
Speaker 2 (12:33):
We should we should talk about what the Hornets did
because it was a monster victory for him, So let's
talk about that. Maybe we take a quick break and
then we try to get this thing back on the
rails after what was a great breakdown from Wes Bryant
who was in on the green room and be a
draft suit breakdown there as well. Let's talk about the
Hornets win, the Panthers, are they in trouble? All that stuff.
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We're about to hit you in the face with it.
On Western Walker Sports Rady ninety two seven WFNZ.
Speaker 1 (13:06):
Just a.
Speaker 2 (13:20):
Happy birthday to the show that turns three years old tomorrow,
and neither one of us are going to be here tomorrow,
which is sad. I'm going to be flying to Kansas
City for yes another wedding. It is the first wedding
on this wedding marathon that I have three of the
next four weekends that's right now. Doesn't mean I'm gonna
miss every Friday. I'm just gonna miss this one because
(13:40):
I got a fly to Kansas City.
Speaker 1 (13:42):
Pray for me.
Speaker 2 (13:42):
I'm gonna need it because of everything going on with
the airlines right now. Oh yeah, yeah, I'm not happy.
I'm a little scared.
Speaker 1 (13:48):
What time is your fight?
Speaker 2 (13:49):
I think it's I actually forget.
Speaker 3 (13:55):
This is one of those times, a lot of times
when they say, oh you need to get that three
hours are now, you definitely have.
Speaker 1 (14:00):
Have to heed that or even earlier. Well that's why.
Speaker 6 (14:04):
You might as well just go straight from the show
and you'll get through TSA by the time you're supposed
to go.
Speaker 2 (14:10):
Yeah, I'll go home, I'll pack, I'll get my tent,
an extra, extra extra change of clothes, and then just
act like Tom Hanks in the terminal.
Speaker 1 (14:20):
Yep, mister God.
Speaker 2 (14:21):
I forget who his name is anyways, But yeah, I'm
gonna have to do that, and so I'm a little
scared about that. It's the only flight I'm gonna have
to take during wedding season. But boy, oh boy, wedding
season is going to hit so Happy Birthday to the show.
Yes again, I hate to harp on this. It's all
very uncomfortable. It's also my birthday, just to not dodge that,
because I know a couple people have already said happy
(14:42):
birthday to me. So thank you very much for the
happy birthday wishes right as well? Goodness, grat happy, it's appy,
happy g day. What does that mean? Happy today?
Speaker 4 (14:54):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (14:54):
Thirty three years ago today, I became a gangster already three.
Not a gangster, but a gangst.
Speaker 4 (15:00):
I thirty pre.
Speaker 1 (15:00):
Feel babe, you bet?
Speaker 3 (15:03):
I say, oh, I'm about to say you've been say
I've been feeling old. But everybody you know, mother bleeps
me because I say it. I know I don't like
hearing it. Yeah, and I don't consider myself old in
the least. But like, I was talking to one of
my coworkers at the d N and he's like thirty,
and I was like, yo, I said you because I
was asking him about women. I said yeah, I said,
you go out and you hang out stuff like that.
(15:23):
He's like, no, I'm too old for that. I said,
I swear you like twenty nine. He's like, I'm thirty.
Speaker 4 (15:27):
I was like, shut up.
Speaker 1 (15:29):
Yeah, I mean I don't feel what people say. Yeah,
I got.
Speaker 2 (15:33):
Called on one time. I did Victor Navorski, Thank you,
Stanford p Yes Nivorski. Yeah that's the guy in the terminal.
Speaker 1 (15:40):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (15:41):
I feel older, clearly, but also not too old. Tonight,
go out and have fun, and you know, I mean
now I can't jump nearly as high as I used to.
I think when we went to the park and I dunked,
it might've been my last time.
Speaker 1 (15:56):
I don't know everything out.
Speaker 2 (15:57):
Yeah, I don't know if I'm doing that again. To
be honest with you, Yeah that was thirty year old Walker.
Now it's thirty three year old. Now you just need
to get loose. You just gotta get that body going
and then you'll be able to go. It's going to
take a little while.
Speaker 1 (16:11):
Maybe got thirty three.
Speaker 2 (16:13):
Well, I mean it's probably like six months training to
get back up there so I can dunk it on
a ten foot rim.
Speaker 1 (16:20):
That's probably what it's going to take. But we have
people right again again.
Speaker 2 (16:25):
On the Fandel text line, Jonathan from Gastonia, it says Walker,
nothing about your target shopping ass screams gangster.
Speaker 3 (16:31):
Yeah it's true, Okay, it's always somebody want to come
in with the Hey, I know you guys call each other,
your friends call each other things that you're not as well.
I mean, you know and you can be Ye, gangster
is a universal term.
Speaker 1 (16:46):
You could be.
Speaker 3 (16:46):
My dog is gangster with his job because he's up
here doing this thing on a high level.
Speaker 5 (16:51):
So you control what the gangster the gangster words hold on.
I don't so.
Speaker 2 (16:57):
I don't know if it's me being naive and not
realizing he was making fun of me. I did not
take offense to it nearly as much as you guys
did jumping in front of said bullet to defend me.
I appreciate the defense nonetheless, but maybe I'm just too
stupid to realize that I was being insulted.
Speaker 6 (17:11):
I mean, he's from Gastonia. I mean most of those
people you wouldn't want to see in a set on.
Speaker 3 (17:16):
That little gas house gangster mama from gaston None wrong
with that family, got a fair point. Yeah, god, the
best looking people in gas Onia. Though that's from now
I say that, Are you from Gastonia? No I'm not,
but I did the teen I did spend a nice
amount of time in my childhood and uh yeah, just
the genetics are from gastonia, so that that's how it
all starts.
Speaker 2 (17:34):
All right, enough enough of the feel good, enough of
the birthday wishes. We don't feel good anymore. It's trying
to feel bad, you know. No, all right, no, no, no,
we can feel good about a different topic. All right, sports, Yeah, eight,
Undersaber says, can we.
Speaker 1 (17:50):
Please talk about trading LaMelo?
Speaker 4 (17:52):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (17:52):
Sports, let's do it.
Speaker 2 (17:54):
What No, the Hornets looked great last night and they
won one eleven to one one hundred.
Speaker 1 (18:01):
It's funny.
Speaker 2 (18:01):
I think if we were to focus on one storyline
coming into the season, the center position was supposed to
be the weakest on this team. Yeah, look, we can
speak about it in context. Do I think Ryan Kalchbrenner
and Musadiyabat form one of the best center rotations in
the league.
Speaker 1 (18:17):
I do not.
Speaker 2 (18:18):
I do not think when they go up against Jokich
that they're going to hold him down, especially after what
he did last night. Wimby a healthy Joel Embiid. Yeah,
we're probably gonna get got in a lot of those matchups.
But the fact that Kakrenner is showing what he is
by never missing field goals, it's a good start. Probably
a good player if you never miss, even if you
are shooting constantly in the restricted area. It also is
(18:41):
probably pretty helpful to a basketball team. When Musadiabat just
averages thirteen offensive rebounds a game, seemingly might be a
little bit of an exaggeration. They also haven't been out
rebounded West in a single game this year. They are
among one of the best defensive rebounding teams in the
and I don't mean like top ten, I mean top three.
(19:04):
They aren't allowing offensive rebounds, and then on the other end,
they are grabbing second chance opportunities. Moose in calk rent
A playing together last night, I thought they were sensational.
I thought this was Kachrenner's best game of his young career.
And oh, by the way, he had his first child
within the past twenty four hours, going off of very
little sleep, something I don't know about at my old age,
(19:25):
but compartmentalizing having a kid, and then, in my opinion, again,
playing your best game. Rim Deterrents blocking shot doesn't surprise
me at all. And perhaps that's that super dad strength
that just infiltrates you as soon as you see your offspring.
But boy, oh boy, he played like a grown man
last year. Yeah, I don't know what it is like
when I used to work with my sales job. You know,
you love to talk about my jobs.
Speaker 3 (19:46):
One I used to work my sales job in which
we you know, we were paid one hundred percent commission, right,
And whenever somebody was having a child, boy, you used
to see those numbers going ham, Okay, this is whatever
it is with people. They get that initial euphoria of
having a kid, and you think about the responsibilities ahead
and the things that you need to do. So my
(20:07):
man came out there last night and said, I need
to make sure I stay in this league. So I
got a ball out so I can take care of
this daughter that I've just had and if I have
more kids after that. So as soon as he came
out and made the first bucket and got an a one,
I said, oh, he's gonna have one at night. I
didn't know how big the game was gonna be, but
I said, oh, my man's gonna ball out the night.
Speaker 4 (20:26):
Well.
Speaker 2 (20:27):
So he was eight of eight from the field. He
tied a season slash career high with seventeen points. He
almost had a double double. He was nine rebounds, one
rebound away there, and again the rimmed deterrence is something
we didn't see last year. Just flat out a better
defender than Mark. Straight up. I had a lot of
love for Mark Williams our show did we did, But
(20:49):
defensively he would just have forty burgers scored on him.
There was that stretch where forty for you Vucevic, here's
thirty six, Daniel Gafford, why don't you not miss a
shot and go for thirty eight? How about twenty in
the first half? That interests you because this is your opportunity.
Miles Turner, he got going from deep. It's going to
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be something Kkbrenner struggles with to stretch the defense out
to the perimeter. That's something that Mussadiyabate can help with.
But it's pick your poison. You either get stretched out
to the three point line or you get punished down low. Yeah,
you can't do it all. But I think you saw
him deter so many guys on fast break opportunities because
Kalkbrenner is rushing down the floor, so you're not allowing layups,
you're not allowing easier shots. I mean, they I think,
(21:35):
and I don't think it was the record, but they
posted one of the best marks in the season, like
a top five mark so far in the NBA season
on the lowest field goal percentage allowed at the rim
last night. That's Kalkbrenner, that's Musadiya bat So the fact
that a weakness isn't nearly as big of a weakness
as we thought it was going to be coming into
(21:55):
the season. These are the little things that you get
to grab onto in terms of hope. I'm not saying
they're a top ten center rotation in the league, but
I also don't think they're bottom five. I don't think
they're bottom three. And we thought maybe that wasn't only
entirely possible, but maybe even probable.
Speaker 3 (22:10):
Yeah, and I don't want to say that I saw
this coming by any stretch. Yeah, but I just found
it hard to believe that a guy that was a
four time defensive player of the Year in a conference
was going to come in and struggle with defense in
the NBA. So that's why I can't say I'm completely
surprised by his defensive prowess, because again, I mean that
is serious pedigree. This isn't a guy that was a
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one time even a two time and those are impressive feats,
but to be four time, I was like, yeah, man,
I felt pretty good that on that end of the
floor he was going to make his presence felt.
Speaker 1 (22:41):
And I mean, he's just a shot blocker, man.
Speaker 3 (22:44):
And I think that's one of those things that a
lot of people sometimes when you go back behind the
curtain and the fans, you think on the outside, would
you feel like their rookies in that fear of the unknown?
So you're just like, man, we got to go find somebody.
We got to go find somebody. When the whole time,
I feel like Coach Lee knew we got the guys
that we need right here in this building.
Speaker 2 (23:02):
So we got people writing in ultra nostalic says, Yeah,
the show was high on Mark, which'all were still realistic
about him in his shortcomings on defense.
Speaker 1 (23:09):
Yeah, no doubt, I think we had hope.
Speaker 2 (23:10):
Part of it was because he was one of the
players that we developed a decent personal relationship with. He
came on a show like thirty four or five times
something like that and would always even talk before and
after with us.
Speaker 1 (23:21):
Great guy.
Speaker 2 (23:22):
Offensively was a really skilled offensive rebounder, two rim runner
all that, but defensively Charles Lee wanted an anchor and
he couldn't do that the way that Kalchbinner is given
that kind of defense. And the other thing to note here,
you don't have LaMelo, you don't have Brandon. It's the
new additions that are helping you out. It's all of
the rookies, who again were fantastic, and it's Colin Sexton,
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who I thought really got things going last night. Just
as soon as he touches the basketball, he's a blur.
He just makes things happen. He steals at least four points,
two buckets, three buckets a game, and that's why he
was the postgame interview. I thought, again, you look at
the additions, it feels like they knocked a lot of
the stuff out of the park with what they did
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this offseason in terms of hope, slash, needing to help
if Flamelo can't play a game, everything that we felt
good about in the off season seems to be paying dividends.
Speaker 4 (24:17):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (24:18):
And I think also too, when you talk about a
changing of the culture on and off the court, but
just talking about on the court, I think you have
now got your foundation, You've got your baseline now with
this rookie class, like, You've got guys that feel like
that if they continue, and it's very very early in
their careers, but these guys will end up contributing to
the Hornets on large scales and small scales for a while.
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And to be able to knock down you know, potentially
four guys, but three for sure that are going to
come in and contribute and they're just doing their thing
and making their imprint on this organization right away. Then
that's something that's invaluable when you talk about trying to
build a franchise.
Speaker 2 (24:59):
Yeah, and just last a couple points here with the Hornets.
The offense, it's been very good pretty much all season long,
and there are better performances than others as you might
expect throughout the course of an eighty two game season,
even without LaMelo, even without Brandon. I just thought the
defense was really good last night. They were so active,
they came out with a purpose immediately. They kept that
all the way through the game, I would say, largely,
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and if they didn't, if there was any slippage, I
thought Charles Lee did a great job using his timeouts
and those moments to stop momentum immediately. You allow you
didn't allow the five point run to become a twelve
to two run. You saw the five oh, and you said, no,
we're good, right you saw five oh, like fitty and
you had to call time out and pull over. Okay,
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that's what happens if you're Charles Lead And I liked
that idea. So you're not going to have a bunch
of hand of Hidalgos running out there defensively this year,
but they were very good. In Hidalgo sixteen steals. I'd
be cool with that from the whole team, right, No,
I'd be cool with eight steals for the entire team.
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Hannah Hidalgo doubled it last night in what was I
don't know, like, is it crazy to say it's.
Speaker 3 (26:09):
One of the best performances say, it is easily one
of the best performances that we'll ever see in college
basketball period. She did something neither men nor women players
have ever done. But she broke the NCAA record of
fourteen steels. She had sixteen of those to go along
with forty points as well, So you know, forty points,
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sixteen steals. She had nine rebounds, yeah, man, she was
on one and oh yeah, she did all that in
twenty eight minutes of play.
Speaker 5 (26:39):
Who were they playing?
Speaker 3 (26:41):
They played Acron, But she's she's special man.
Speaker 6 (26:45):
Yeah, that's crazy, dude. I couldn't even do that on
the video.
Speaker 4 (26:48):
Game, right.
Speaker 1 (26:49):
No.
Speaker 2 (26:49):
I love that you bring that up, because me and
my buddy we would create, of course, all sorts of
fake players all the time, and sometimes we would combine forces.
Excuse me, forty four point forty four points sixteen steals.
I'm so greedy. I want that extra rebound to get
her a triple double. And she didn't get the triple double. Yeah,
just terrible.
Speaker 5 (27:10):
I'm sure she's devastated.
Speaker 1 (27:11):
Yeah, I know.
Speaker 2 (27:12):
So we used to do the creative player thing. And
you know, my nickname Mailman. My buddy's name was Big Red,
So we made Big Red Mailman, okay, okay. And the
way that we would would the way that we would,
you know, construct this players of course, ninety nine sliders
on everything, just amazing. At every single aspect of the sport.
We would try to get quintiple doubles every single game.
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The hardest thing to do was get the steals. Couldn't
get the steals sometimes, so you'd get everything else. It
was easy to get the points easy to get the rebounds,
you just go Russell Westbrook rebound hog and then you
would just shoot it immediately to get the assist. And
we couldn't get the double digit steals. So I love
that you brought up the video game reference, because yeah,
you can't even do it on two K, you can't
do it on NBA Live. If you did, you might
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get ten for an individual player, and she got sixteen
last night Handah dog Go for Notre Dame. In case
we didn't provide enough context here, she had again forty
four points, sixteen steals, nine rebounds, four assists, sixteen of
twenty five from the floor in less than thirty minutes
played against Akron. One of the best performances ever. Yeah,
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I mean it was absolutely spectacular.
Speaker 3 (28:19):
She is the calls for today's fire or fizzle as well,
because as I was sitting there last night doing my games,
and we have like our work chain that we're talking
on and stuff like that, and I remember my coworker
texting us in that she had like twenty eight points
and I believe like ten steals or something like that
at halftime, and I was like WHOA. I was like okay,
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And then when you see the final stat line. I
was just like, you have got to be kidding me.
I mean, she had one steal where it was just
straight up debo and she's a she's a little old
thing out there, and the girl drove to the basket
and she came and gave one of those two hands
getting your chest, grabbed a basketball and she just ripped
it out, went down and made it an acrobatic layup
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for and one. And I mean she's a very emotional
player too. She gets very fired up when she's out there,
so she was I mean, she was talking to herself
after the first three, which she does often. But she
is a special, special talent she got.
Speaker 2 (29:14):
She was ripping people like I got ripped against Terry
Sanmer those years ago.
Speaker 1 (29:18):
I felt sorry.
Speaker 2 (29:18):
I've been there, Aftron, I'm sorry, Zips, I've been there.
Speaker 3 (29:22):
We also had an Ni naiaighteen that scored one hundred
and seventy two points last night on the women's side,
women's basketball was crazy, and then Walker Mell's forty nine
has been off a little bit more than they could chew.
Last night, women's basketball making tiktoks coming to LSU's competition,
and they said they're about to play some and then
they got mopped up.
Speaker 1 (29:43):
Real good, Why mind you do?
Speaker 2 (29:45):
It's LSU, It's Kim maulk.
Speaker 3 (29:50):
Yeah, pretty good. I mean there's they lost one seventeen
to fifty nine. They made a video said, they made
a video said we're dancing because LSU was finally playing
some competition talking about them.
Speaker 1 (30:02):
And then you lose one seventeen to fifty nine.
Speaker 5 (30:05):
You tried, you tried, and.
Speaker 6 (30:07):
Kim Mokey brought it up. She had a receipt, stunning.
She usually is someone that lets those things go. Yeah right,
I mean it's Kim Moe. It ain't thinking, you're not thinking,
you're not thinking. It's hey, let's put out a TikTok
and they show you why that you should not put
out that TikTok.
Speaker 2 (30:24):
Yeah, pretty, you're right. Crazy crazy night in women's hoops
last night. I'm hoping that the Panthers don't get meat
this bad because I've been thinking about it. Okay, this
game is monstrous in terms of how we feel about
this season, and I think the foundation it's laid here, Okay,
to have a letdown performance and to really steer things
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the exact opposite direction from where this team was heading
just two weeks ago. So you destroyed the Falcons thirty
to nothing the first time you played them. Love to
see it. I would imagine that they're not too thrilled
about that. This is a Falcons team that also desperately
needs a win in order to salvage their season. You're
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going into Atlanta, Okay, this is a passing offense that
isn't playing all that well. Regardless of who's the most
to blame, coach, quarterback, wide receivers all love it. Not
playing all that well if you can't run the football
because they do sell out to stop the run, and
they're able to get loose in pass rush because they
do have some talented pass rushers down there, and we've
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known this. Like, I don't want to speak this into existence.
I don't want to be doomsday guy because I'm not
saying it's going to be doomsday. I'm not saying I
believe that this is going to happen. I do want
to try to illustrate what's on the line here, Like,
if we're talking about significance of games for Carolina, this
is to me an extremely significant game on top of
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it just being a good old fashioned division rivalry, monster
game for Bryce and the boys here to try to
make something happen. And if you get beat by double
digits against the Hawkins after getting beat by one of
the worst teams in the NFL, it's a tough schedule
the rest of the way. Well, it's a big one
for Carroll. Yeah, this is huge.
Speaker 3 (32:08):
And the thing is too, you got to be able
to show at this point that you have a second pitch.
So there are storylines coming in and flaws were exposed
last week, and that's the thing. Some teams lose games
and you might have something that you weren't good at
that particular week, but you're still good at overall, or
maybe a flaw amongst a lot of great things that
you're able to do before this call on offense. This
is a big one because you got to be able
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to prove that you can, you know, attack teams down
the field and make teams play honest. And that's a
situation you don't necessarily want to be in to make
teams feel like that they have to play you honest,
and they should feel that way coming into a game,
regardless of the fact they may be able to point
out small weaknesses and say, hey, you know, if we
stop this guy, the rest of that court, they're okay,
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But we can do this, this and this and this,
not the fact that we got to be able to
prove that we can actually have a very competent passing
game that can win us games if we need it to.
Speaker 2 (33:00):
So here's the question as we go into the next segment.
Does Bryce need a blow up game for people to
get on the Bryce wagon? Can he play like he
did against I don't know, Dallas, where it's really the
running game, getting things going again and he just is accurate,
goes for one hundred and fifty, not throwing it at
harm's way real pedestrian box score? Or do we need
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the blow up game from Bryce for people to get
all the way in restore some faith even the people
that did believe in him that are now off the
Bryce wagon? What do you need from Bryce this game
and really the rest of the way do you need
the three hundred yarder?
Speaker 1 (33:38):
That's my question?
Speaker 2 (33:38):
Fandal text line seven oh four, five seven oh ninety
six to ten. We come back talking panthers on the
other side of.
Speaker 4 (33:43):
The break, Biggie Biggie, I might put that on.
Speaker 2 (34:02):
Jumping the gun a little bit, get a little loss
of the sauce. That's how you know you're comfortable, though. Man,
When you just start bobbing the head because the music
is so good, and then you turn on the microphone
and you just want to bring what's happening off of
the air to the air.
Speaker 6 (34:15):
I get too comfortable, though. I don't want to have
to use the button. You'll never have to use that
with me.
Speaker 3 (34:20):
I don't want to say never, But I feel people
like this type of off kilt of stuff that we do.
Speaker 6 (34:27):
Man, who do you think is most likely to have
the button used on them on the show?
Speaker 2 (34:30):
Well, I mean it's happened to me. I said the
S word and talking the S word instead of talking junk.
That was with the Angel Rees Caitlin Clark thing, That's
what it was.
Speaker 4 (34:42):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (34:42):
If I haven't used it in any context like that
where people made me angry, or when the forty nine
ers lost the Super Bowl, or when wake for Says
lost important games, I don't think I had.
Speaker 5 (34:52):
It used on me because we were arguing that Victor cruise.
Speaker 2 (34:55):
Yeah, I don't think the famous Victor Cruz incident. You
got really close? Yeah, which one? There was one time
you almost said the S word. Yeah, I mean it was.
I mean it got so close to where me and
Flounder looked at each other, and Flounder didn't know if
he should just go ahead and do it because you
might have said it was But I don't think you.
Speaker 1 (35:14):
I don't think you dropped the t on it. I
think it was shi.
Speaker 5 (35:18):
I don't think you were mad.
Speaker 6 (35:19):
I think you were very comfortable and you just got
really close.
Speaker 2 (35:21):
Yeah, no, it was no, it was not anger. It
was just you were chilling. You got real comfortable. Yeah,
you was just chilling. It was a thrilling, chill Thursday,
and you just decided to, you know, toy with the
FCC a little bit and toy with the dumb button.
It's happened to me once? Did it happen to me
one other time? But I don't think it was all
that anyways. I think it was just the one time
and it was hilarious. Is it never happened to me
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at seven thirty ever? And we didn't even have a
dumb button. We're bad influenced a long time. Yeah, I know, WFNZ,
we are bad influences. Let's go to the Fandel text line.
I asked before we went to the break, do you
just need the three hundred yard from Bryce Young to
be on the Brice wagon? If not the three hundred
yarder spiritually something similar to that. A lot of text
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messages coming in on this zero expectations, Rights, you're asking
the wrong question. A defense will always have a game plan.
Sometimes you beat them strength on strength, pat yourself on
the back. Other times you make adjustments to your plan
rather than letting your QB not look like a fool,
QB look like a fool whatever. Okay, there's nuance here,
except I think with people providing that it's not like
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the wrong West. I mean, there's a reason that we
have debates. It's because everything is full of nuance when
it comes to creating a game plan on how to
beat a football team. Right, Bryce Young against Dallas I
thought played well. Clearly, he wasn't the star in that game.
It was Rico Daubdle running all over him and it's
a bad defense. But Bryce did what he needed to
do to win. So how do we calculate just how
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good he was? He didn't play like a star. Also
didn't really need him to play like a star in
the games that he's played well outside of maybe the
second game against Arizona or the second half of that
game against Arizona, which was good, they had a chance
to win it eventually didn't count some game winning drives.
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We've got drives where Bryce is making real plays. But
I think my question is if Bryce is going to
massively turn the tide. I wonder if fans just need
an unassailable argument, like or if Bryce needs an unassailable argument. Hey,
these last three games, I just threw for over two
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point fifty a pop, didn't have any interceptions, throwing on target,
top five and big time throws. Do you need that
kind of stress a stretch excuse me, Wes, in order
to get everybody on your side again, or do you
think that there is something to point at if he,
I don't know, gives us a bunch of games like
he did against Dallas and Miami and so on and
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so forth.
Speaker 1 (37:52):
Yeah, No, that's what the people want.
Speaker 3 (37:54):
That's what they need to see from their quarterback because
they need to see that because uh yeah, we hear
a little bit of chat during the wins, but then
the fans, it feels like they tend to see the
objective of the game playing more. When they win, as
long as Bryce doesn't turn the ball over, they're okay
with what happens. Like he could come out and throw
for three touchdowns with just one hundred and seventy yards.
But if they win the game and he doesn't turn
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the ball over, then fans are okay with that. But
it's when it gets magnified that if they lose or
they don't play well and then he might have a
turnover or he the passing game is not explosive, then
that's when all of the blame comes. And that's when
he's not good enough and all those things come. But
he needs a game. I mean, we can't forget at
the end of last season, the last three games he
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goes seven touchdowns to zero interceptions. And he also needs
to have a game like he had maybe the last
time in Atlanta, where he goes seventy three and a
half percent completions, two hundred and fifty one yards, three
touchdowns with no picks.
Speaker 1 (38:51):
We didn't hear any of that.
Speaker 3 (38:52):
When he's throwing touchdowns and he's turning around and putting
up the touchdown sign before the ball goes in. People
were loving it then and so that's that's the thing. Yes,
he does need to put up some numbers that are,
you know, worthy of quieting people who do not believe
in him. So I'm with you one hundred percent. He
definitely needs to have some games this season that you
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could consider in the signature category.
Speaker 2 (39:16):
Yeah, And I think it's interesting you bring it up.
They were loving it then what Bryce was doing, and
it's not like he was going crazy. He had the
really good game against Atlanta. I don't believe he threw
for three hundred, but he had four touchdown passes and
it was a high up the.
Speaker 3 (39:28):
Game at the end of the year, right, Yeah, Yeah,
he was two foifty one three touchdowns.
Speaker 1 (39:31):
There you go.
Speaker 2 (39:31):
Yeah, so awesome, awesome game from Bryce and gives us
the moment where he turns around with Tommy Trimble catching
the touchdown. Yeah, that was good stuff. And even if
you weren't loving it, the Bryce haters were pretty quiet
during that stretch, or they were quieter. Maybe you were
projecting it all along.
Speaker 6 (39:47):
There.
Speaker 2 (39:48):
There are those people out there, but you didn't have
a whole lot of evidence to.
Speaker 1 (39:51):
Go off of in those few games, I would say.
Speaker 2 (39:54):
So the other disconnect I would say is something you
brought up we can go back to last year, and
that's a snippet of Bryce Young's career that we should
have let have its day. But it's one of those
same arguments where all right, c J. Stroud had a
crazy rookie year. How far in the past do we go.
It's not happening as much now. It's not happening as
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consistently now because things change in the NFL. People learn
what makes you tick. Teams change weapons, change offensive lines. Right,
how many things need to go right in order for
you to provide some level of consistency, which I just
don't think we're getting from Bryce right now. And that's
where all of this kind of gets lost in the sauce.
Bill Barnwell wrote about every possible QB change scenario this offseason,
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and when he wrote about the Panthers, here's what he
had to say about Bryce Young. Young's promising end to
twenty four hasn't led to a step forward in twenty
twenty five. Young's sack rate is down and his success
rate is up as a passer, which are both positives,
but his interception rate has risen for the second consecutive season.
The twenty twenty three, number one overall pick is averaging
just five point six yards per attempt, the worst mark
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in the league for any full season starter. Offensive line
injuries haven't held, but Young has only seven deep completions
all season. And he also this is the one to
me that I don't think has been referenced a lot.
Bryce Young has the fourth worst off target rate in
the NFL on passes that aren't deep attempts, making it
difficult for Carolina to sustain drives with steady completions.
Speaker 1 (41:26):
It's tough.
Speaker 2 (41:28):
I think what complicates all of this is that Bryce
was good.
Speaker 1 (41:33):
He wasn't.
Speaker 2 (41:34):
In my opinion, I don't think he was amazing. I
don't think he was a Pro Bowl level guy. But
in the end of his second year, in that stretch
against good defenses, he showed you the goods. And that's
really all I needed to see. As somebody that still
is very much on the fence about Bryce being that guy,
I've got may I think ceiling down on him, but
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it doesn't mean you can't win with him like I
think you can. But I would like to see a
lot more, and we saw it last year. I just
need to know if that was a mirage or not,
and if that's something that can happen consistently.
Speaker 3 (42:08):
Yeah, And that's a great question that you bring to
the table too, Man, because as we've been talking about
this week, it felt like that the coaching staff felt
more comfortable calling plays with more aggression. You know, there
are so many factors to figure out why this offense
cannot get over the hump, as far as throwing for
reasonable amounts of yards and really attacking teams. I mean,
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you look in the Tampa Bay game last year, he
had two hundred and ninety eight yards with a touchdown.
Against Kansas City, he goes for two sixty three. Denver
he had two twenty four with two touchdowns. So there
were games that I think made people feel comfortable. And
also we can't forget that Philadelphia drive. He goes down
and he's a pass away from nailing the game winner there.
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So I felt like that the coaching staff was coaching
with a little bit more freedom, he was playing with
a little bit more freedom, and the receiving corps had
a little bit of a different makeup, bit more vets
out there. Because I think too, and I think especially
it's glaring now, I think we underestimate and obviously this
guy's not. You know, I'm not sitting up there saying like, oh,
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this guy's an All pro or whatever the case may be.
But I think you miss having a veteran receiver in
this court right now, like a David Moore, a guy
that really knows the system, that can get open, that
knows where to go, veteran receivers. And that's what I
keep trying to tell people, like even on the Fandel
text line, when I'm having conversations texting with people, and
I'm like, people think that you should have or when
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they look at some of these quarterbacks around the league
that are doing well without household names. But I keep stressing,
do you have system fits? Do you have guys that
fit what it is that you want to do with
the skill set that they bring to the table. They
don't have to have all of the goods, but do
you have something that's conducive to this offense? And so
I think if you have a guy out there, like
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a David Moore that knows the system, knows where to go,
knows what to be, knows the routes, knows all that
stuff and can get open, that helps you out a
lot because like I said, it feels like you're a
little bit your hand tie behind your back a little
bit because, like I said, your number one guy's a
rookie who's still learning on the fly. Your number two's
a second year receiver it it doesn't look like he's
getting it. Your number three is another rookie that doesn't
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really know what he's doing yet, and he's small, and
he's kind of fast, but not really fast. So it's
a it's an interesting core that you have here that
can kind of complicate some things when you're trying to
expose defenses. But no, as far as the off target
rate on balls that aren't deep balls yet, no, Bryce
has missed some throws as well.
Speaker 2 (44:35):
It's so funny. I think that that sat to me.
None of these stats are catch alls. We need to
apply everything to this situation and try to evaluate it
as best as we can. But in terms of being
an interesting stat the fact that he's off target and
at a higher rate than most qbs in the NFL
on passes that aren't deep balls, that's that's interesting because
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that's all their threat and the argument that we're not
taking deep shots. Yeah, I would like to see it
because Bryce has been pretty accurate on those throws and
we're not seeing it as much. And so then we
go back to Dave Canalis and say, why aren't those happening?
Except I think Dave Canais is drawing them up and
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maybe Bryce isn't throwing it trusting his arm to throw
it that far downfield, But the numbers say you should
trust it Bryce, like I Coker, there was I keep
going back to the Saints game. Coker's open man, he
needs he needs to let it rip. Yeah, and it
doesn't mean that it happens every game, but there's there's
more crossers here there. There's uh, there was a zone
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coverage that New Orleans was playing and then Coker runs
a dig route from the right and it's there, and
then he checks down to Rico like come.
Speaker 3 (45:49):
On and that and that stuff is gonna be magnified
when things aren't going well, because you know, you can
point to you know, every quarterbacks game and they gotta
miss some guys. But yeah, I mean to your point,
he's got to get some of the layups. He needs
a little bit more layups, and you've got to be
able to do those types of things. Because that was
something that like a lot of people want Caleb Williams about,
it's not taking the layups and things like that. So
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quarterbacks are gonna always have throws that they miss. But
for Bryce, you know, obviously these things are going to
be magnified when things aren't going well. So he's got
to be able to make those throws too, all right.
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It is a chill and thrill or thrill and chill.
What are we doing first here? According to Cannon, Yeah,
(00:44):
we got a thrill. We're thrilling first and then we're chilling. Yeah,
we'll all right. It's a thrill and chill Thursday on
Wes and Walker. Will thrill in maybe like the first
couple of hours, and then I guess we chill or
is it all thrilling?
Speaker 1 (00:57):
And then we chill after the show.
Speaker 3 (00:58):
Yeah, okay, I'd say I really chill thrill of the
fans and then we chill outter what do you.
Speaker 2 (01:03):
Guys want the fans, the listeners let us know on
the fandal text line seven oh four five seven oh
ninety six ten again that's seven oh four five seven
oh ninety six ten. You know how you're a great
legend in this business is when a certain show I
think starts their programs fifty percent of the time the
last two weeks by reiterating what you had just said
(01:24):
to us earlier, like what we do with Boom, I
mean the og game Spider, if you will, the true
game Spider. So shout out to Boom ONTs more. We're
doing it again percent rate. You're giving me the white guy,
you say, game Spider, Yeah, game Spiner. Well I am
white man, I know I am, I know for sure.
I mean, but you got flaved though, so you got
to give me that spin up. Well, like that's fifty
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percent of the time too. Every once in a while,
I'll go, I'll put what I'm saying, I was about
to phrase that in a way I absolutely should not
phrase that, and I'll leave that up to your old imagination.
But yes, you know, I probably should have put a
little bit more flavor on it. But sometimes I don't
have flavor.
Speaker 3 (02:01):
Yeah, I mean, you know, I just couldn't imagine them
down Baby, and them down there in Louisiana say, hey, man,
are you a game spinner.
Speaker 2 (02:10):
It's a little nerdy, it's a it's a little it
needs some seasoning.
Speaker 3 (02:16):
It sounds good, you know what I'm saying? Yeah, yeah,
why does that Willy the way he says it's smooth.
It sounds good when it's coming out. It's just that
last little sure that we got to tweak. Well, No,
this is look, this is who I am. Man like this.
Speaker 1 (02:28):
You know sometimes I need a little bit more season
at home. And tell you a Gray said, baby, I'm
a game spider.
Speaker 2 (02:36):
I probably got a fifty percent rate on that actually
sounding very good as well. All right, people, right again
on the FanDuel text line. Again, that number is seven
oh four five, seven oh ninety six ten, and man,
we got some good news.
Speaker 4 (02:48):
To talk about.
Speaker 2 (02:49):
Yeah, how about the Hornets getting a dub last Yeah,
how about it? How about the Hornets balling out against Milwaukee. Okay,
there was no Giannis, but we looked damn good right
from the mill. Yeah, that's you know, we didn't have
our two best players and they didn't have their best one.
Who is I mean, I guess historically a good player.
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It's like their best three. Yeah, he's their best four. Yeah,
I think you're probably right if you say he's their
best five. But even still the Hornets, I will say
they looked pretty dominant, the score being one eleven to
one hundred at the very end of this game. It
was only that close because I think college interesting basketball
names actually graced us with their presence in the fourth quarter.
(03:31):
How about Mark Spear or not Spears? Excuse me, Sears
was in there. You also had Pete Nance get some
run like all of these other and scored ten points
in lots four minutes. That's right, Pete Nance went for
ten points. Anyways, that was all garbage time. It didn't matter.
The Hornets got the dub.
Speaker 3 (03:49):
They looked fantastic, but they did, man, And so you
were happy for them just to get a win on
the board bring some positivity to news. What the Hornets
just has not been great with the injuries and all
the things that we talk about to feel like the
same song and dance, So for them to go out
there and get a win, uh. And I felt like
that was one of the reasons I had changed my pick,
because they played the Lakers pretty competitive for the most
part in that game, and so I felt like, I said, man,
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you know, no Joannis tonight, I said, I think those boys,
they're a little bit upset how that Lakers game ended,
So I felt like that they would be able to
get this thing done, and they did.
Speaker 2 (04:21):
And shout out to Flounder for saving the prediction for
all of us not going hornets. He went Bucks, and
so whatever Flounder has been saying here recently, you usually
take the opposite route.
Speaker 5 (04:32):
Wait win thirty.
Speaker 3 (04:36):
So you can't use your powers like that, and it
has to come natural. It's got to be organic. The
things that you say, you can't just you know what
I'm saying, to take gods. They know when you're trying
to do that. I'm saying, yeah, they know. They don't
want to sing your heart. They are just shaking their
head at you right now.
Speaker 6 (04:50):
I have a bad feeling for Panther fans going into tomorrow.
Speaker 2 (04:54):
Oh no, really, you're feeling good about them. Huh, that's
not good, by the way, Yes, So I do appreciate
all the love. It's very weird self indulging. It's perhaps
more self indulging by admitting that it's self indulging, and
then you get in this inception of selfishness. But let's
just go ahead and address it. I appreciate all the
love for being on TV last night. A lot of
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people writing in here on the Fandel text line, a
lot of love on Twitter. I really appreciate it. I
will tell you this. A couple of things that are
surprising about people responding to my TV appearance. One did
not expect to get that much love for the suit.
I need it from the actual og fashion god. Yeah,
well talk to me. I'm sitting there last night.
Speaker 3 (05:38):
You didn't You didn't tell me you were doing I didn't,
which was because it's surprising, but I didn't tell. So
I think that's why you get my love, because I
saw you do it before and the suit. It was
cool you would dress nice, but last night where you
would casket fresh. Okay, you know what I'm saying. Yeah,
we got blood and Guts going on the TV, and
I got the Hornets game going on the other one,
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and I just happened to look down. I was like, oh, bleep,
that's Walker okay. And then my son says something. He's like, oh,
that's Walk on TV. I said yeah.
Speaker 1 (06:07):
I said, let's turn him up. And then I looked
at the suit. I said, oh, that boy ready to night.
Speaker 3 (06:11):
I said, he looked like an NBA analyst at the
finals tonight. Man, I told you looked like a Russian
assassin out there, because you know he got the little
drago looking here, du going a little bit minus the blonde,
so you know he's got the what do they call it?
Speaker 1 (06:25):
Volume? The volume was volume, man, Okay, you know, I
don't know the words for it, but volume.
Speaker 6 (06:32):
Yeah, your hair for you, You got to do your
own hair. Yeah, yeah, I ain't none of that happening
back then.
Speaker 3 (06:40):
Even he used to put his own makeup on back there,
So now ain't no glam squad.
Speaker 2 (06:45):
Yeah, yeah, you're doing everything yourself. Yeah, you got to
come right there. But I saw him with the jet
black suit.
Speaker 3 (06:50):
The tie gave it a nice pope and then the
light was hitting it just right there.
Speaker 1 (06:55):
That is the one good thing my hornets caught.
Speaker 6 (06:57):
Man.
Speaker 3 (06:57):
You can take some good pictures on that court board,
you fresh. You could take some real good pictures out there.
You know, I didn't take any thirst trap pictures last night.
I probably should have to put him out the GRAM
or something like that. My Graham needs a renovation. It
needs a lot. The most important part though, Yeah, did
you get that text?
Speaker 4 (07:15):
Fhm?
Speaker 3 (07:15):
I was saying, oh baby, you look good tonight. I
didn't get that text.
Speaker 1 (07:18):
No, I did not.
Speaker 2 (07:19):
Yeah, she she was more complimenting me, saying how well
I was doing. And I appreciated that, but it was
more for the job, you know, to be honest with you, No,
not really, not really thought yeh didn't have fresh suit.
Speaker 3 (07:32):
You want the woman to be not saying that she
would because she might have been just playing it cool.
She maybe didn't want to boost walk up too much.
She's already giving them to compliment. You want that text
to say you know you're looking real good, honey. Yeah,
I mean she did want Yeah, she doesn't want my yeah,
all right. She was looking at it, ready to crawl
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through the screen. But she said, I'm not gonna, you know,
give this man too much. I'm already complementing a job
that he's doing.
Speaker 4 (07:59):
Right.
Speaker 2 (07:59):
She she's a little careful and how much praise she
gives me because she doesn't want me, in my ego
to get too big.
Speaker 5 (08:05):
And so I've always thought to you, like fitty very
big ego.
Speaker 2 (08:08):
Yeah, is that right? Please don't say that again. Don't that.
Don't you do that. We got people riding in panther
bo says casket fresh bro even your I never heard
that one looked white.
Speaker 1 (08:18):
I haven't either.
Speaker 2 (08:19):
It's it's a dark way to say, but.
Speaker 1 (08:23):
I do like it and it sounds very Southern.
Speaker 2 (08:25):
Yeah, I honestly think of Russian Assassin is the best
compliment that I've ever gotten out.
Speaker 1 (08:33):
I'd say I liked it, man, because it was because
is that one of the ones you got?
Speaker 4 (08:36):
Tailor?
Speaker 1 (08:37):
It looked like it, That's what I'm saying. So Showers
was right.
Speaker 3 (08:40):
I said, my dog looked like he is ready to
go in the build and put together you know what
I'm saying, the rifle and find the target and get
the job done.
Speaker 5 (08:49):
I mean he was more tailored than Travis Kelcey.
Speaker 1 (08:51):
Yeah, God like that.
Speaker 4 (08:54):
That's a right.
Speaker 2 (08:55):
That was a little bit of game spitting like that
was that was goodness. I mean, y'all, Okay, this needs
to happen more often. I've I've gone through three legitimate
spit takes. I don't do this often, but you guys
have the great lines and I appreciate that. And and
here's the other thing. You know how I've talked about
how I have a very weird body. I look like
a little bit of the wacky, flailing and inflatable arm
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flailing food.
Speaker 1 (09:20):
Man.
Speaker 2 (09:20):
So like my arms are real long, they're too long
for my body. They're also very skinny. All that to say,
suits don't fit me very well off of the rack,
but I used to try to make it work here.
I am sound and bougie off the rack. Man, you
can't accuse me. You can't accuse me. I buy off
of the rack, now, Okay, I do that because one,
I don't have money like that. Target money is not
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Balenciaga money. Some very different. But but if you go
get your suits altered, slash tailored, it's a life changer
for people that.
Speaker 1 (09:53):
And then hold on out.
Speaker 3 (09:55):
You know, Walk doesn't give himself enough credit because this
is coming off of when you want to suit to
that party that time with the turtleneck and you were
dead fresh too. Yeah, so that's what I'm saying, man, Man,
thank you. Yeah, that's what I do. And I'm not,
you know, I'm not. I don't dance unless I hit
mut No. I know when I saw it last night,
I said, oh my dog is fresh up this. You
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got to make sure you, like I said, keep getting
on suits and getting them tailored. Man, you were ready
to go last night, info on point everything on point man.
I said that boy looked like he was ready for
the finals. Put them up there with Barkley and them
fan me down. Goodness, gracious. I appreciate all the love
man from everybody, right and inn I do want to
read a couple of these other texts. I mean, okay,
(10:36):
it all just became about my outfit because Mac was
saying the same thing.
Speaker 4 (10:39):
Yeah, Mac.
Speaker 2 (10:40):
He wrote in saying, hey, he's doing a great job
of representing us radio dudes. And apparently he called me hot.
And I appreciate it for Mac. I can recognize that.
I appreciate it. Love the love, the love from Mac.
I think somebody wrote here in a text message that
was sent like at the very beginning of the show,
and we got a lot to comb through here. Someone
wanted an NBAH raft style breakdown on my suit last night.
(11:02):
And they don't want it from me. They want it
from me, They want it from you. They want the
NBA draft style breakdown. No fire or fizzle here. I
don't want that. Just give me it. I got you.
Just give me a draft, all right.
Speaker 3 (11:13):
We got Walking Mayll coming in in six six around
two hundred and fifteen, two hundred and twenty pounds out.
The suit fits just right because the shoulders. That's a
key to a suit, you know what I'm saying for
anybody that wants to be able to pull it off. Dude,
the shoulders match. Yes, nice broad shoulders. Brings out the
suit very well. And then he's going all black there,
so he's given the all business vibe, but the tie
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gives some pop.
Speaker 1 (11:36):
He's got some stripes in there.
Speaker 3 (11:38):
It's little design, so it gives it just enough that
where it's not too dark with it doesn't look like
he's going to somebody's funeral. But he looks like a
guy that's all business and he's coming in ready to go.
It's a great suit tailored very well. Whoever did that
chef's kiss for that? And he brings it out every
which way. The tall framing that he seems to, you know,
be self depreciating about at time, I thought, really brought
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the suit out. So this is a first round level
suit right here. I love the projection here. I think
it could go down in a Hall of fame. All right,
thank you very much, Yes, all right. I don't know
how to handle all of this. This isn't even something
I hear from Olivia. To be honest with you, not
all of this Okay, Twitter, Wes Flounder Mac got a
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lot of love from y'all today, and I'm overwhelmed.
Speaker 2 (12:25):
I'm overwhelmed with all the compliments. Okay, how about we
actually talk about what the Hornets did last night?
Speaker 1 (12:30):
Yeah, go for it. How about.
Speaker 2 (12:33):
We should we should talk about what the Hornets did
because it was a monster victory for him, So let's
talk about that. Maybe we take a quick break and
then we try to get this thing back on the
rails after what was a great breakdown from Wes Bryant
who was in on the green room and be a
draft suit breakdown there as well. Let's talk about the
Hornets win, the Panthers, are they in trouble? All that stuff.
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We're about to hit you in the face with it.
On Western Walker Sports Rady ninety two seven WFNZ.
Speaker 1 (13:06):
Just a.
Speaker 2 (13:20):
Happy birthday to the show that turns three years old tomorrow,
and neither one of us are going to be here tomorrow,
which is sad. I'm going to be flying to Kansas
City for yes another wedding. It is the first wedding
on this wedding marathon that I have three of the
next four weekends that's right now. Doesn't mean I'm gonna
miss every Friday. I'm just gonna miss this one because
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I got a fly to Kansas City.
Speaker 1 (13:42):
Pray for me.
Speaker 2 (13:42):
I'm gonna need it because of everything going on with
the airlines right now. Oh yeah, yeah, I'm not happy.
I'm a little scared.
Speaker 1 (13:48):
What time is your fight?
Speaker 2 (13:49):
I think it's I actually forget.
Speaker 3 (13:55):
This is one of those times, a lot of times
when they say, oh you need to get that three
hours are now, you definitely have.
Speaker 1 (14:00):
Have to heed that or even earlier. Well that's why.
Speaker 6 (14:04):
You might as well just go straight from the show
and you'll get through TSA by the time you're supposed
to go.
Speaker 2 (14:10):
Yeah, I'll go home, I'll pack, I'll get my tent,
an extra, extra extra change of clothes, and then just
act like Tom Hanks in the terminal.
Speaker 1 (14:20):
Yep, mister God.
Speaker 2 (14:21):
I forget who his name is anyways, But yeah, I'm
gonna have to do that, and so I'm a little
scared about that. It's the only flight I'm gonna have
to take during wedding season. But boy, oh boy, wedding
season is going to hit so Happy Birthday to the show.
Yes again, I hate to harp on this. It's all
very uncomfortable. It's also my birthday, just to not dodge that,
because I know a couple people have already said happy
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birthday to me. So thank you very much for the
happy birthday wishes right as well? Goodness, grat happy, it's appy,
happy g day. What does that mean? Happy today?
Speaker 4 (14:54):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (14:54):
Thirty three years ago today, I became a gangster already three.
Not a gangster, but a gangst.
Speaker 4 (15:00):
I thirty pre.
Speaker 1 (15:00):
Feel babe, you bet?
Speaker 3 (15:03):
I say, oh, I'm about to say you've been say
I've been feeling old. But everybody you know, mother bleeps
me because I say it. I know I don't like
hearing it. Yeah, and I don't consider myself old in
the least. But like, I was talking to one of
my coworkers at the d N and he's like thirty,
and I was like, yo, I said you because I
was asking him about women. I said yeah, I said,
you go out and you hang out stuff like that.
(15:23):
He's like, no, I'm too old for that. I said,
I swear you like twenty nine. He's like, I'm thirty.
Speaker 4 (15:27):
I was like, shut up.
Speaker 1 (15:29):
Yeah, I mean I don't feel what people say. Yeah,
I got.
Speaker 2 (15:33):
Called on one time. I did Victor Navorski, Thank you,
Stanford p Yes Nivorski. Yeah that's the guy in the terminal.
Speaker 1 (15:40):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (15:41):
I feel older, clearly, but also not too old. Tonight,
go out and have fun, and you know, I mean
now I can't jump nearly as high as I used to.
I think when we went to the park and I dunked,
it might've been my last time.
Speaker 1 (15:56):
I don't know everything out.
Speaker 2 (15:57):
Yeah, I don't know if I'm doing that again. To
be honest with you, Yeah that was thirty year old Walker.
Now it's thirty three year old. Now you just need
to get loose. You just gotta get that body going
and then you'll be able to go. It's going to
take a little while.
Speaker 1 (16:11):
Maybe got thirty three.
Speaker 2 (16:13):
Well, I mean it's probably like six months training to
get back up there so I can dunk it on
a ten foot rim.
Speaker 1 (16:20):
That's probably what it's going to take. But we have
people right again again.
Speaker 2 (16:25):
On the Fandel text line, Jonathan from Gastonia, it says Walker,
nothing about your target shopping ass screams gangster.
Speaker 3 (16:31):
Yeah it's true, Okay, it's always somebody want to come
in with the Hey, I know you guys call each other,
your friends call each other things that you're not as well.
I mean, you know and you can be Ye, gangster
is a universal term.
Speaker 1 (16:46):
You could be.
Speaker 3 (16:46):
My dog is gangster with his job because he's up
here doing this thing on a high level.
Speaker 5 (16:51):
So you control what the gangster the gangster words hold on.
I don't so.
Speaker 2 (16:57):
I don't know if it's me being naive and not
realizing he was making fun of me. I did not
take offense to it nearly as much as you guys
did jumping in front of said bullet to defend me.
I appreciate the defense nonetheless, but maybe I'm just too
stupid to realize that I was being insulted.
Speaker 6 (17:11):
I mean, he's from Gastonia. I mean most of those
people you wouldn't want to see in a set on.
Speaker 3 (17:16):
That little gas house gangster mama from gaston None wrong
with that family, got a fair point. Yeah, god, the
best looking people in gas Onia. Though that's from now
I say that, Are you from Gastonia? No I'm not,
but I did the teen I did spend a nice
amount of time in my childhood and uh yeah, just
the genetics are from gastonia, so that that's how it
all starts.
Speaker 2 (17:34):
All right, enough enough of the feel good, enough of
the birthday wishes. We don't feel good anymore. It's trying
to feel bad, you know. No, all right, no, no, no,
we can feel good about a different topic. All right, sports, Yeah, eight,
Undersaber says, can we.
Speaker 1 (17:50):
Please talk about trading LaMelo?
Speaker 4 (17:52):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (17:52):
Sports, let's do it.
Speaker 2 (17:54):
What No, the Hornets looked great last night and they
won one eleven to one one hundred.
Speaker 1 (18:01):
It's funny.
Speaker 2 (18:01):
I think if we were to focus on one storyline
coming into the season, the center position was supposed to
be the weakest on this team. Yeah, look, we can
speak about it in context. Do I think Ryan Kalchbrenner
and Musadiyabat form one of the best center rotations in
the league.
Speaker 1 (18:17):
I do not.
Speaker 2 (18:18):
I do not think when they go up against Jokich
that they're going to hold him down, especially after what
he did last night. Wimby a healthy Joel Embiid. Yeah,
we're probably gonna get got in a lot of those matchups.
But the fact that Kakrenner is showing what he is
by never missing field goals, it's a good start. Probably
a good player if you never miss, even if you
are shooting constantly in the restricted area. It also is
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probably pretty helpful to a basketball team. When Musadiabat just
averages thirteen offensive rebounds a game, seemingly might be a
little bit of an exaggeration. They also haven't been out
rebounded West in a single game this year. They are
among one of the best defensive rebounding teams in the
and I don't mean like top ten, I mean top three.
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They aren't allowing offensive rebounds, and then on the other end,
they are grabbing second chance opportunities. Moose in calk rent
A playing together last night, I thought they were sensational.
I thought this was Kachrenner's best game of his young career.
And oh, by the way, he had his first child
within the past twenty four hours, going off of very
little sleep, something I don't know about at my old age,
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but compartmentalizing having a kid, and then, in my opinion, again,
playing your best game. Rim Deterrents blocking shot doesn't surprise
me at all. And perhaps that's that super dad strength
that just infiltrates you as soon as you see your offspring.
But boy, oh boy, he played like a grown man
last year. Yeah, I don't know what it is like
when I used to work with my sales job. You know,
you love to talk about my jobs.
Speaker 3 (19:46):
One I used to work my sales job in which
we you know, we were paid one hundred percent commission, right,
And whenever somebody was having a child, boy, you used
to see those numbers going ham, Okay, this is whatever
it is with people. They get that initial euphoria of
having a kid, and you think about the responsibilities ahead
and the things that you need to do. So my
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man came out there last night and said, I need
to make sure I stay in this league. So I
got a ball out so I can take care of
this daughter that I've just had and if I have
more kids after that. So as soon as he came
out and made the first bucket and got an a one,
I said, oh, he's gonna have one at night. I
didn't know how big the game was gonna be, but
I said, oh, my man's gonna ball out the night.
Speaker 4 (20:26):
Well.
Speaker 2 (20:27):
So he was eight of eight from the field. He
tied a season slash career high with seventeen points. He
almost had a double double. He was nine rebounds, one
rebound away there, and again the rimmed deterrence is something
we didn't see last year. Just flat out a better
defender than Mark. Straight up. I had a lot of
love for Mark Williams our show did we did, But
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defensively he would just have forty burgers scored on him.
There was that stretch where forty for you Vucevic, here's
thirty six, Daniel Gafford, why don't you not miss a
shot and go for thirty eight? How about twenty in
the first half? That interests you because this is your opportunity.
Miles Turner, he got going from deep. It's going to
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be something Kkbrenner struggles with to stretch the defense out
to the perimeter. That's something that Mussadiyabate can help with.
But it's pick your poison. You either get stretched out
to the three point line or you get punished down low. Yeah,
you can't do it all. But I think you saw
him deter so many guys on fast break opportunities because
Kalkbrenner is rushing down the floor, so you're not allowing layups,
you're not allowing easier shots. I mean, they I think,
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and I don't think it was the record, but they
posted one of the best marks in the season, like
a top five mark so far in the NBA season
on the lowest field goal percentage allowed at the rim
last night. That's Kalkbrenner, that's Musadiya bat So the fact
that a weakness isn't nearly as big of a weakness
as we thought it was going to be coming into
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the season. These are the little things that you get
to grab onto in terms of hope. I'm not saying
they're a top ten center rotation in the league, but
I also don't think they're bottom five. I don't think
they're bottom three. And we thought maybe that wasn't only
entirely possible, but maybe even probable.
Speaker 3 (22:10):
Yeah, and I don't want to say that I saw
this coming by any stretch. Yeah, but I just found
it hard to believe that a guy that was a
four time defensive player of the Year in a conference
was going to come in and struggle with defense in
the NBA. So that's why I can't say I'm completely
surprised by his defensive prowess, because again, I mean that
is serious pedigree. This isn't a guy that was a
(22:31):
one time even a two time and those are impressive feats,
but to be four time, I was like, yeah, man,
I felt pretty good that on that end of the
floor he was going to make his presence felt.
Speaker 1 (22:41):
And I mean, he's just a shot blocker, man.
Speaker 3 (22:44):
And I think that's one of those things that a
lot of people sometimes when you go back behind the
curtain and the fans, you think on the outside, would
you feel like their rookies in that fear of the unknown?
So you're just like, man, we got to go find somebody.
We got to go find somebody. When the whole time,
I feel like Coach Lee knew we got the guys
that we need right here in this building.
Speaker 2 (23:02):
So we got people writing in ultra nostalic says, Yeah,
the show was high on Mark, which'all were still realistic
about him in his shortcomings on defense.
Speaker 1 (23:09):
Yeah, no doubt, I think we had hope.
Speaker 2 (23:10):
Part of it was because he was one of the
players that we developed a decent personal relationship with. He
came on a show like thirty four or five times
something like that and would always even talk before and
after with us.
Speaker 1 (23:21):
Great guy.
Speaker 2 (23:22):
Offensively was a really skilled offensive rebounder, two rim runner
all that, but defensively Charles Lee wanted an anchor and
he couldn't do that the way that Kalchbinner is given
that kind of defense. And the other thing to note here,
you don't have LaMelo, you don't have Brandon. It's the
new additions that are helping you out. It's all of
the rookies, who again were fantastic, and it's Colin Sexton,
(23:47):
who I thought really got things going last night. Just
as soon as he touches the basketball, he's a blur.
He just makes things happen. He steals at least four points,
two buckets, three buckets a game, and that's why he
was the postgame interview. I thought, again, you look at
the additions, it feels like they knocked a lot of
the stuff out of the park with what they did
(24:07):
this offseason in terms of hope, slash, needing to help
if Flamelo can't play a game, everything that we felt
good about in the off season seems to be paying dividends.
Speaker 4 (24:17):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (24:18):
And I think also too, when you talk about a
changing of the culture on and off the court, but
just talking about on the court, I think you have
now got your foundation, You've got your baseline now with
this rookie class, like, You've got guys that feel like
that if they continue, and it's very very early in
their careers, but these guys will end up contributing to
the Hornets on large scales and small scales for a while.
(24:40):
And to be able to knock down you know, potentially
four guys, but three for sure that are going to
come in and contribute and they're just doing their thing
and making their imprint on this organization right away. Then
that's something that's invaluable when you talk about trying to
build a franchise.
Speaker 2 (24:59):
Yeah, and just last a couple points here with the Hornets.
The offense, it's been very good pretty much all season long,
and there are better performances than others as you might
expect throughout the course of an eighty two game season,
even without LaMelo, even without Brandon. I just thought the
defense was really good last night. They were so active,
they came out with a purpose immediately. They kept that
all the way through the game, I would say, largely,
(25:21):
and if they didn't, if there was any slippage, I
thought Charles Lee did a great job using his timeouts
and those moments to stop momentum immediately. You allow you
didn't allow the five point run to become a twelve
to two run. You saw the five oh, and you said, no,
we're good, right you saw five oh, like fitty and
you had to call time out and pull over. Okay,
(25:42):
that's what happens if you're Charles Lead And I liked
that idea. So you're not going to have a bunch
of hand of Hidalgos running out there defensively this year,
but they were very good. In Hidalgo sixteen steals. I'd
be cool with that from the whole team, right, No,
I'd be cool with eight steals for the entire team.
(26:03):
Hannah Hidalgo doubled it last night in what was I
don't know, like, is it crazy to say it's.
Speaker 3 (26:09):
One of the best performances say, it is easily one
of the best performances that we'll ever see in college
basketball period. She did something neither men nor women players
have ever done. But she broke the NCAA record of
fourteen steels. She had sixteen of those to go along
with forty points as well, So you know, forty points,
(26:32):
sixteen steals. She had nine rebounds, yeah, man, she was
on one and oh yeah, she did all that in
twenty eight minutes of play.
Speaker 5 (26:39):
Who were they playing?
Speaker 3 (26:41):
They played Acron, But she's she's special man.
Speaker 6 (26:45):
Yeah, that's crazy, dude. I couldn't even do that on
the video.
Speaker 4 (26:48):
Game, right.
Speaker 1 (26:49):
No.
Speaker 2 (26:49):
I love that you bring that up, because me and
my buddy we would create, of course, all sorts of
fake players all the time, and sometimes we would combine forces.
Excuse me, forty four point forty four points sixteen steals.
I'm so greedy. I want that extra rebound to get
her a triple double. And she didn't get the triple double. Yeah,
just terrible.
Speaker 5 (27:10):
I'm sure she's devastated.
Speaker 1 (27:11):
Yeah, I know.
Speaker 2 (27:12):
So we used to do the creative player thing. And
you know, my nickname Mailman. My buddy's name was Big Red,
So we made Big Red Mailman, okay, okay. And the
way that we would would the way that we would,
you know, construct this players of course, ninety nine sliders
on everything, just amazing. At every single aspect of the sport.
We would try to get quintiple doubles every single game.
(27:34):
The hardest thing to do was get the steals. Couldn't
get the steals sometimes, so you'd get everything else. It
was easy to get the points easy to get the rebounds,
you just go Russell Westbrook rebound hog and then you
would just shoot it immediately to get the assist. And
we couldn't get the double digit steals. So I love
that you brought up the video game reference, because yeah,
you can't even do it on two K, you can't
do it on NBA Live. If you did, you might
(27:56):
get ten for an individual player, and she got sixteen
last night Handah dog Go for Notre Dame. In case
we didn't provide enough context here, she had again forty
four points, sixteen steals, nine rebounds, four assists, sixteen of
twenty five from the floor in less than thirty minutes
played against Akron. One of the best performances ever. Yeah,
(28:17):
I mean it was absolutely spectacular.
Speaker 3 (28:19):
She is the calls for today's fire or fizzle as well,
because as I was sitting there last night doing my games,
and we have like our work chain that we're talking
on and stuff like that, and I remember my coworker
texting us in that she had like twenty eight points
and I believe like ten steals or something like that
at halftime, and I was like WHOA. I was like okay,
(28:40):
And then when you see the final stat line. I
was just like, you have got to be kidding me.
I mean, she had one steal where it was just
straight up debo and she's a she's a little old
thing out there, and the girl drove to the basket
and she came and gave one of those two hands
getting your chest, grabbed a basketball and she just ripped
it out, went down and made it an acrobatic layup
(29:01):
for and one. And I mean she's a very emotional
player too. She gets very fired up when she's out there,
so she was I mean, she was talking to herself
after the first three, which she does often. But she
is a special, special talent she got.
Speaker 2 (29:14):
She was ripping people like I got ripped against Terry
Sanmer those years ago.
Speaker 1 (29:18):
I felt sorry.
Speaker 2 (29:18):
I've been there, Aftron, I'm sorry, Zips, I've been there.
Speaker 3 (29:22):
We also had an Ni naiaighteen that scored one hundred
and seventy two points last night on the women's side,
women's basketball was crazy, and then Walker Mell's forty nine
has been off a little bit more than they could chew.
Last night, women's basketball making tiktoks coming to LSU's competition,
and they said they're about to play some and then
they got mopped up.
Speaker 1 (29:43):
Real good, Why mind you do?
Speaker 2 (29:45):
It's LSU, It's Kim maulk.
Speaker 3 (29:50):
Yeah, pretty good. I mean there's they lost one seventeen
to fifty nine. They made a video said, they made
a video said we're dancing because LSU was finally playing
some competition talking about them.
Speaker 1 (30:02):
And then you lose one seventeen to fifty nine.
Speaker 5 (30:05):
You tried, you tried, and.
Speaker 6 (30:07):
Kim Mokey brought it up. She had a receipt, stunning.
She usually is someone that lets those things go. Yeah right,
I mean it's Kim Moe. It ain't thinking, you're not thinking,
you're not thinking. It's hey, let's put out a TikTok
and they show you why that you should not put
out that TikTok.
Speaker 2 (30:24):
Yeah, pretty, you're right. Crazy crazy night in women's hoops
last night. I'm hoping that the Panthers don't get meat
this bad because I've been thinking about it. Okay, this
game is monstrous in terms of how we feel about
this season, and I think the foundation it's laid here, Okay,
to have a letdown performance and to really steer things
(30:47):
the exact opposite direction from where this team was heading
just two weeks ago. So you destroyed the Falcons thirty
to nothing the first time you played them. Love to
see it. I would imagine that they're not too thrilled
about that. This is a Falcons team that also desperately
needs a win in order to salvage their season. You're
(31:08):
going into Atlanta, Okay, this is a passing offense that
isn't playing all that well. Regardless of who's the most
to blame, coach, quarterback, wide receivers all love it. Not
playing all that well if you can't run the football
because they do sell out to stop the run, and
they're able to get loose in pass rush because they
do have some talented pass rushers down there, and we've
(31:29):
known this. Like, I don't want to speak this into existence.
I don't want to be doomsday guy because I'm not
saying it's going to be doomsday. I'm not saying I
believe that this is going to happen. I do want
to try to illustrate what's on the line here, Like,
if we're talking about significance of games for Carolina, this
is to me an extremely significant game on top of
(31:50):
it just being a good old fashioned division rivalry, monster
game for Bryce and the boys here to try to
make something happen. And if you get beat by double
digits against the Hawkins after getting beat by one of
the worst teams in the NFL, it's a tough schedule
the rest of the way. Well, it's a big one
for Carroll. Yeah, this is huge.
Speaker 3 (32:08):
And the thing is too, you got to be able
to show at this point that you have a second pitch.
So there are storylines coming in and flaws were exposed
last week, and that's the thing. Some teams lose games
and you might have something that you weren't good at
that particular week, but you're still good at overall, or
maybe a flaw amongst a lot of great things that
you're able to do before this call on offense. This
is a big one because you got to be able
(32:29):
to prove that you can, you know, attack teams down
the field and make teams play honest. And that's a
situation you don't necessarily want to be in to make
teams feel like that they have to play you honest,
and they should feel that way coming into a game,
regardless of the fact they may be able to point
out small weaknesses and say, hey, you know, if we
stop this guy, the rest of that court, they're okay,
(32:50):
But we can do this, this and this and this,
not the fact that we got to be able to
prove that we can actually have a very competent passing
game that can win us games if we need it to.
Speaker 2 (33:00):
So here's the question as we go into the next segment.
Does Bryce need a blow up game for people to
get on the Bryce wagon? Can he play like he
did against I don't know, Dallas, where it's really the
running game, getting things going again and he just is accurate,
goes for one hundred and fifty, not throwing it at
harm's way real pedestrian box score? Or do we need
(33:23):
the blow up game from Bryce for people to get
all the way in restore some faith even the people
that did believe in him that are now off the
Bryce wagon? What do you need from Bryce this game
and really the rest of the way do you need
the three hundred yarder?
Speaker 1 (33:38):
That's my question?
Speaker 2 (33:38):
Fandal text line seven oh four, five seven oh ninety
six to ten. We come back talking panthers on the
other side of.
Speaker 4 (33:43):
The break, Biggie Biggie, I might put that on.
Speaker 2 (34:02):
Jumping the gun a little bit, get a little loss
of the sauce. That's how you know you're comfortable, though. Man,
When you just start bobbing the head because the music
is so good, and then you turn on the microphone
and you just want to bring what's happening off of
the air to the air.
Speaker 6 (34:15):
I get too comfortable, though. I don't want to have
to use the button. You'll never have to use that
with me.
Speaker 3 (34:20):
I don't want to say never, But I feel people
like this type of off kilt of stuff that we do.
Speaker 6 (34:27):
Man, who do you think is most likely to have
the button used on them on the show?
Speaker 2 (34:30):
Well, I mean it's happened to me. I said the
S word and talking the S word instead of talking junk.
That was with the Angel Rees Caitlin Clark thing, That's
what it was.
Speaker 4 (34:42):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (34:42):
If I haven't used it in any context like that
where people made me angry, or when the forty nine
ers lost the Super Bowl, or when wake for Says
lost important games, I don't think I had.
Speaker 5 (34:52):
It used on me because we were arguing that Victor cruise.
Speaker 2 (34:55):
Yeah, I don't think the famous Victor Cruz incident. You
got really close? Yeah, which one? There was one time
you almost said the S word. Yeah, I mean it was.
I mean it got so close to where me and
Flounder looked at each other, and Flounder didn't know if
he should just go ahead and do it because you
might have said it was But I don't think you.
Speaker 1 (35:14):
I don't think you dropped the t on it. I
think it was shi.
Speaker 5 (35:18):
I don't think you were mad.
Speaker 6 (35:19):
I think you were very comfortable and you just got
really close.
Speaker 2 (35:21):
Yeah, no, it was no, it was not anger. It
was just you were chilling. You got real comfortable. Yeah,
you was just chilling. It was a thrilling, chill Thursday,
and you just decided to, you know, toy with the
FCC a little bit and toy with the dumb button.
It's happened to me once? Did it happen to me
one other time? But I don't think it was all
that anyways. I think it was just the one time
and it was hilarious. Is it never happened to me
(35:43):
at seven thirty ever? And we didn't even have a
dumb button. We're bad influenced a long time. Yeah, I know, WFNZ,
we are bad influences. Let's go to the Fandel text line.
I asked before we went to the break, do you
just need the three hundred yard from Bryce Young to
be on the Brice wagon? If not the three hundred
yarder spiritually something similar to that. A lot of text
(36:05):
messages coming in on this zero expectations, Rights, you're asking
the wrong question. A defense will always have a game plan.
Sometimes you beat them strength on strength, pat yourself on
the back. Other times you make adjustments to your plan
rather than letting your QB not look like a fool,
QB look like a fool whatever. Okay, there's nuance here,
except I think with people providing that it's not like
(36:26):
the wrong West. I mean, there's a reason that we
have debates. It's because everything is full of nuance when
it comes to creating a game plan on how to
beat a football team. Right, Bryce Young against Dallas I
thought played well. Clearly, he wasn't the star in that game.
It was Rico Daubdle running all over him and it's
a bad defense. But Bryce did what he needed to
do to win. So how do we calculate just how
(36:49):
good he was? He didn't play like a star. Also
didn't really need him to play like a star in
the games that he's played well outside of maybe the
second game against Arizona or the second half of that
game against Arizona, which was good, they had a chance
to win it eventually didn't count some game winning drives.
(37:09):
We've got drives where Bryce is making real plays. But
I think my question is if Bryce is going to
massively turn the tide. I wonder if fans just need
an unassailable argument, like or if Bryce needs an unassailable argument. Hey,
these last three games, I just threw for over two
(37:30):
point fifty a pop, didn't have any interceptions, throwing on target,
top five and big time throws. Do you need that
kind of stress a stretch excuse me, Wes, in order
to get everybody on your side again, or do you
think that there is something to point at if he,
I don't know, gives us a bunch of games like
he did against Dallas and Miami and so on and
(37:52):
so forth.
Speaker 1 (37:52):
Yeah, No, that's what the people want.
Speaker 3 (37:54):
That's what they need to see from their quarterback because
they need to see that because uh yeah, we hear
a little bit of chat during the wins, but then
the fans, it feels like they tend to see the
objective of the game playing more. When they win, as
long as Bryce doesn't turn the ball over, they're okay
with what happens. Like he could come out and throw
for three touchdowns with just one hundred and seventy yards.
But if they win the game and he doesn't turn
(38:15):
the ball over, then fans are okay with that. But
it's when it gets magnified that if they lose or
they don't play well and then he might have a
turnover or he the passing game is not explosive, then
that's when all of the blame comes. And that's when
he's not good enough and all those things come. But
he needs a game. I mean, we can't forget at
the end of last season, the last three games he
(38:36):
goes seven touchdowns to zero interceptions. And he also needs
to have a game like he had maybe the last
time in Atlanta, where he goes seventy three and a
half percent completions, two hundred and fifty one yards, three
touchdowns with no picks.
Speaker 1 (38:51):
We didn't hear any of that.
Speaker 3 (38:52):
When he's throwing touchdowns and he's turning around and putting
up the touchdown sign before the ball goes in. People
were loving it then and so that's that's the thing. Yes,
he does need to put up some numbers that are,
you know, worthy of quieting people who do not believe
in him. So I'm with you one hundred percent. He
definitely needs to have some games this season that you
(39:13):
could consider in the signature category.
Speaker 2 (39:16):
Yeah, And I think it's interesting you bring it up.
They were loving it then what Bryce was doing, and
it's not like he was going crazy. He had the
really good game against Atlanta. I don't believe he threw
for three hundred, but he had four touchdown passes and
it was a high up the.
Speaker 3 (39:28):
Game at the end of the year, right, Yeah, Yeah,
he was two foifty one three touchdowns.
Speaker 1 (39:31):
There you go.
Speaker 2 (39:31):
Yeah, so awesome, awesome game from Bryce and gives us
the moment where he turns around with Tommy Trimble catching
the touchdown. Yeah, that was good stuff. And even if
you weren't loving it, the Bryce haters were pretty quiet
during that stretch, or they were quieter. Maybe you were
projecting it all along.
Speaker 6 (39:47):
There.
Speaker 2 (39:48):
There are those people out there, but you didn't have
a whole lot of evidence to.
Speaker 1 (39:51):
Go off of in those few games, I would say.
Speaker 2 (39:54):
So the other disconnect I would say is something you
brought up we can go back to last year, and
that's a snippet of Bryce Young's career that we should
have let have its day. But it's one of those
same arguments where all right, c J. Stroud had a
crazy rookie year. How far in the past do we go.
It's not happening as much now. It's not happening as
(40:15):
consistently now because things change in the NFL. People learn
what makes you tick. Teams change weapons, change offensive lines. Right,
how many things need to go right in order for
you to provide some level of consistency, which I just
don't think we're getting from Bryce right now. And that's
where all of this kind of gets lost in the sauce.
Bill Barnwell wrote about every possible QB change scenario this offseason,
(40:39):
and when he wrote about the Panthers, here's what he
had to say about Bryce Young. Young's promising end to
twenty four hasn't led to a step forward in twenty
twenty five. Young's sack rate is down and his success
rate is up as a passer, which are both positives,
but his interception rate has risen for the second consecutive season.
The twenty twenty three, number one overall pick is averaging
just five point six yards per attempt, the worst mark
(41:01):
in the league for any full season starter. Offensive line
injuries haven't held, but Young has only seven deep completions
all season. And he also this is the one to
me that I don't think has been referenced a lot.
Bryce Young has the fourth worst off target rate in
the NFL on passes that aren't deep attempts, making it
difficult for Carolina to sustain drives with steady completions.
Speaker 1 (41:26):
It's tough.
Speaker 2 (41:28):
I think what complicates all of this is that Bryce
was good.
Speaker 1 (41:33):
He wasn't.
Speaker 2 (41:34):
In my opinion, I don't think he was amazing. I
don't think he was a Pro Bowl level guy. But
in the end of his second year, in that stretch
against good defenses, he showed you the goods. And that's
really all I needed to see. As somebody that still
is very much on the fence about Bryce being that guy,
I've got may I think ceiling down on him, but
(41:56):
it doesn't mean you can't win with him like I
think you can. But I would like to see a
lot more, and we saw it last year. I just
need to know if that was a mirage or not,
and if that's something that can happen consistently.
Speaker 3 (42:08):
Yeah, And that's a great question that you bring to
the table too, Man, because as we've been talking about
this week, it felt like that the coaching staff felt
more comfortable calling plays with more aggression. You know, there
are so many factors to figure out why this offense
cannot get over the hump, as far as throwing for
reasonable amounts of yards and really attacking teams. I mean,
(42:29):
you look in the Tampa Bay game last year, he
had two hundred and ninety eight yards with a touchdown.
Against Kansas City, he goes for two sixty three. Denver
he had two twenty four with two touchdowns. So there
were games that I think made people feel comfortable. And
also we can't forget that Philadelphia drive. He goes down
and he's a pass away from nailing the game winner there.
(42:50):
So I felt like that the coaching staff was coaching
with a little bit more freedom, he was playing with
a little bit more freedom, and the receiving corps had
a little bit of a different makeup, bit more vets
out there. Because I think too, and I think especially
it's glaring now, I think we underestimate and obviously this
guy's not. You know, I'm not sitting up there saying like, oh,
(43:11):
this guy's an All pro or whatever the case may be.
But I think you miss having a veteran receiver in
this court right now, like a David Moore, a guy
that really knows the system, that can get open, that
knows where to go, veteran receivers. And that's what I
keep trying to tell people, like even on the Fandel
text line, when I'm having conversations texting with people, and
I'm like, people think that you should have or when
(43:33):
they look at some of these quarterbacks around the league
that are doing well without household names. But I keep stressing,
do you have system fits? Do you have guys that
fit what it is that you want to do with
the skill set that they bring to the table. They
don't have to have all of the goods, but do
you have something that's conducive to this offense? And so
I think if you have a guy out there, like
(43:54):
a David Moore that knows the system, knows where to go,
knows what to be, knows the routes, knows all that
stuff and can get open, that helps you out a
lot because like I said, it feels like you're a
little bit your hand tie behind your back a little
bit because, like I said, your number one guy's a
rookie who's still learning on the fly. Your number two's
a second year receiver it it doesn't look like he's
getting it. Your number three is another rookie that doesn't
(44:17):
really know what he's doing yet, and he's small, and
he's kind of fast, but not really fast. So it's
a it's an interesting core that you have here that
can kind of complicate some things when you're trying to
expose defenses. But no, as far as the off target
rate on balls that aren't deep balls yet, no, Bryce
has missed some throws as well.
Speaker 2 (44:35):
It's so funny. I think that that sat to me.
None of these stats are catch alls. We need to
apply everything to this situation and try to evaluate it
as best as we can. But in terms of being
an interesting stat the fact that he's off target and
at a higher rate than most qbs in the NFL
on passes that aren't deep balls, that's that's interesting because
(44:59):
that's all their threat and the argument that we're not
taking deep shots. Yeah, I would like to see it
because Bryce has been pretty accurate on those throws and
we're not seeing it as much. And so then we
go back to Dave Canalis and say, why aren't those happening?
Except I think Dave Canais is drawing them up and
(45:20):
maybe Bryce isn't throwing it trusting his arm to throw
it that far downfield, But the numbers say you should
trust it Bryce, like I Coker, there was I keep
going back to the Saints game. Coker's open man, he
needs he needs to let it rip. Yeah, and it
doesn't mean that it happens every game, but there's there's
more crossers here there. There's uh, there was a zone
(45:42):
coverage that New Orleans was playing and then Coker runs
a dig route from the right and it's there, and
then he checks down to Rico like come.
Speaker 3 (45:49):
On and that and that stuff is gonna be magnified
when things aren't going well, because you know, you can
point to you know, every quarterbacks game and they gotta
miss some guys. But yeah, I mean to your point,
he's got to get some of the layups. He needs
a little bit more layups, and you've got to be
able to do those types of things. Because that was
something that like a lot of people want Caleb Williams about,
it's not taking the layups and things like that. So
(46:11):
quarterbacks are gonna always have throws that they miss. But
for Bryce, you know, obviously these things are going to
be magnified when things aren't going well. So he's got
to be able to make those throws too, all right.
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For more than 30 years The River Cafe in London, has been the home-from-home of artists, architects, designers, actors, collectors, writers, activists, and politicians. Michael Caine, Glenn Close, JJ Abrams, Steve McQueen, Victoria and David Beckham, and Lily Allen, are just some of the people who love to call The River Cafe home. On River Cafe Table 4, Rogers sits down with her customers—who have become friends—to talk about food memories. Table 4 explores how food impacts every aspect of our lives. “Foods is politics, food is cultural, food is how you express love, food is about your heritage, it defines who you and who you want to be,” says Rogers. Each week, Rogers invites her guest to reminisce about family suppers and first dates, what they cook, how they eat when performing, the restaurants they choose, and what food they seek when they need comfort. And to punctuate each episode of Table 4, guests such as Ralph Fiennes, Emily Blunt, and Alfonso Cuarón, read their favourite recipe from one of the best-selling River Cafe cookbooks. Table 4 itself, is situated near The River Cafe’s open kitchen, close to the bright pink wood-fired oven and next to the glossy yellow pass, where Ruthie oversees the restaurant. You are invited to take a seat at this intimate table and join the conversation. For more information, recipes, and ingredients, go to https://shoptherivercafe.co.uk/ Web: https://rivercafe.co.uk/ Instagram: www.instagram.com/therivercafelondon/ Facebook: https://en-gb.facebook.com/therivercafelondon/ For more podcasts from iHeartRadio, visit the iheartradio app, apple podcasts, or wherever you listen to your favorite shows. Learn more about your ad-choices at https://www.iheartpodcastnetwork.com
Dateline NBC
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