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Speaker 1 (00:05):
Apogae Production.
Speaker 2 (00:22):
Welcome back to another episode about I ad Mom podcast.
Speaker 1 (00:27):
Oh.
Speaker 2 (00:28):
I was going to say, who was it that told
me there are only a few fridays? Took me?
Speaker 3 (00:31):
It was you. Yeah, it was like somebody else's Instagram
that said like six Fridays until Christmas and that was
last week.
Speaker 1 (00:39):
So now we're at five.
Speaker 2 (00:40):
My kids have got two weeks left of school and
then they're on the Christmas holiday.
Speaker 1 (00:44):
Wonderful.
Speaker 3 (00:45):
Yeah, so glad you're paying all those fees, I know,
I know for them to be on holidays, Yeah, all
the time.
Speaker 2 (00:52):
And then that's the end of year eleven and then
we've got one year left. I'm kind of like, I'm excited,
like I feel resentful to paying another year of school fees.
Oh yeah, I'm like, I'm you're done a bit. Yeah,
I'm done.
Speaker 3 (01:07):
You're sort of like, well, are you really going to
use anything that you're doing at school in order for
me to pay these fees.
Speaker 2 (01:13):
I don't really understand how schooling works, which is hilarious
for me to say because my kids are like nearly
finished with it and I still don't get how it
works in Brisbane. But from what I can gather, the
only thing they have to pass next year is English.
Speaker 3 (01:28):
Oh yeah, that's right, because they're not doing is it
an Atar? Yeah, they're not doing their final exams because
they've been doing the tape course, which then adds to
that particular, doesn't it.
Speaker 2 (01:37):
Yeah, so they've already passed that rage. So they've finished
the course. They've passed, and then they get their certificate
and then I think there's like a graduation thing next year,
but that's now given them the equivalent of a high
Atar school.
Speaker 1 (01:52):
So it's done. Great.
Speaker 3 (01:54):
It takes a lot of stress out of it. Do
you want to hear something that's super stressful though? I
went to an eighteenth birthday party on the weekend.
Speaker 1 (02:03):
That was super stressful. I was like that I couldn't cope.
Speaker 3 (02:07):
I was watching them all, and I was watching them
all like there were foreign objects, and I was like, oh.
Speaker 1 (02:11):
My gosh, Oh my gosh, oh my gosh.
Speaker 3 (02:12):
And then this one where he was like getting so
drunk and because it was like really stormy weather, so
we were sort of majority inside and it's a beautiful
home and then he's like getting real like sideways and
then there were drinks going sideways and he's trying to
talk and his eyes are fucking crossing, and.
Speaker 1 (02:28):
I was like, oh my god, this is so scary.
You're so scary. And then I looked at him.
Speaker 3 (02:32):
I said, bro, put the drink down while you're walking
to the toilet. Just put it down, I said, because
I am not coping with watching you spill it all
over the floor.
Speaker 1 (02:41):
Just put drink down. Anyway, he looked at me and goes, right,
oh mum, Like this was like, did you pull by
somebody else's kid?
Speaker 2 (02:48):
Did you really think through your outfit before you went
twen eighteenth birthday?
Speaker 3 (02:53):
I made sure that I wore jeans and a top
and it was not like crazy, but it was like probably.
Speaker 1 (03:01):
Actually more in their age group. Yeah, I think about it.
Speaker 2 (03:05):
Yeah. I wondered whether you tried to match the vibe
I did.
Speaker 1 (03:07):
I think I did.
Speaker 2 (03:08):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (03:09):
I also, because my girls weren't invited to the eighteenth
and solo parenting, I was like, well, what do I
do with you girls? So that was the first night
that that stayed home after dark by themselves for a
period of time. Oh yeah, I mean it was an eighteenth.
I wasn't going to get sideways at it, you know,
So I just went around haw did a glass of wine,
(03:31):
sang happy that they did all that, went home.
Speaker 1 (03:33):
Yeah, they were fine.
Speaker 3 (03:34):
They did not close their eyes though, because I was thinking,
it's like nine point thirty ten when I sort of
come home, but I didn't leave until later because of
the storms. And then I got back thinking maybe.
Speaker 1 (03:46):
There I sleep in front of the.
Speaker 2 (03:47):
TV absolutely not wired, switched on.
Speaker 1 (03:50):
No, no, yeah, no, we're fine.
Speaker 2 (03:52):
Even my girl's age rate, Like if we get home late,
every light in the house is on.
Speaker 1 (03:58):
Yeah. No, it was the same kid, It was the
same look. So did it go well? They did well.
They were very tired.
Speaker 2 (04:03):
Next, at least the storm didn't knock out the power.
Speaker 1 (04:05):
Imagine that.
Speaker 2 (04:06):
I imagine that as.
Speaker 3 (04:09):
Soon as I got to the party, So like, what's that?
I think a five minute drive away, my phone just
started getting peppered with messages. Hi mom, I just got
peppered with messages for like the two hours or two
and a half hours that I was there.
Speaker 2 (04:22):
Yeah, they've got an actual phone, like.
Speaker 1 (04:24):
A no, but they've got the iPads.
Speaker 3 (04:26):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (04:27):
Imagine if your WiFi was imagine if you know power, yeah,
and your WiFi was out.
Speaker 1 (04:32):
Imagine, Oh my gosh. I would hope that they would
go to the neighbor. I forgot about the Wi Fi sitch.
Speaker 2 (04:39):
Yeah, shit, you need to get like a old school
like nock your phone or something like a burner, like
something that will call out.
Speaker 1 (04:50):
A proper burner?
Speaker 3 (05:00):
Am I a mad mum for redirecting the conversation? When
they come to me with hard questions, I give them
the opportunity by saying to them I appreciate the question.
I'm going to let you know that the answer could
be a little bit confronting. So it's one of those
moments that if you really don't want to know, then
(05:24):
you shouldn't really ask. Yeah, this is where it started was.
I've been very honest and open about how many like
fucking massive conversations we've been having at home, especially with
Grace at the moment, and it always is just really big.
Speaker 1 (05:41):
Topics right at their time.
Speaker 3 (05:44):
And we've talked about that through your years of your
girls doing the same thing, and I just sort of
get to that place where I can feel myself like
internalizing and just having like a moment of like, oh fuck,
like how do I answer this? How much information is
too much information for her age group? Because I still
(06:04):
believe that everything is age appropriate, right, Yeah, my friends
were sort of coming from the angle of going Yeah,
but Rach, if you're not telling her, she will find
out her own way through other people's sources of information,
which means I Eipad, laptop, phone.
Speaker 2 (06:20):
Yeah, and then you get no control over how it's
said and how much detail exactly.
Speaker 1 (06:25):
Again, though, you come to that point where I was.
Speaker 3 (06:28):
Like, right, we could be really honest with this, or
I can tell you when you're ready to know everything
about it everything.
Speaker 1 (06:37):
Yeah, this has been a number of topics, Katie. This
is not just one, right.
Speaker 2 (06:41):
Just asking a lot of questions about like sex, ye, yeah, sex, sexuality,
conversation she's hearing at school that isn't necessarily involving her,
but like her friends are.
Speaker 1 (06:54):
Chatting about it.
Speaker 3 (06:56):
So then I'm super pumped that she's coming to me
to ask me. You're wanting my overview, sort of leaning
on me, which is what I want. I want her
to come and talk to me about it first and foremost.
Obviously her friends are an important role as well, but
I feel like some of the topics that we were covering,
even her twelve year old friends are going to have
(07:18):
different takes.
Speaker 1 (07:19):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (07:20):
I used to find that it was the friends with
older siblings. Yeah, that would often know more information and
stuff like that, and they would be sharing stories about
what their older sister was telling them.
Speaker 3 (07:35):
So then I was like having this moment with this
conversation with like and there was a couple of parents
right around the table. I didn't go into detail. Again,
I don't want to share like all the finder details
because again I trust her and she trusts me in
what we talk about. But Katie, I put it out
to the table. It was like, how much is too much? Though,
(07:56):
like where do we draw the line? And they go,
but you didn't really answer the question. I was like,
but I did answer the question. They gave her the
opportunity to like not have to know everything, because really,
at the end of the day, she wants to know
a little bit.
Speaker 1 (08:08):
She doesn't want to know the whole thing.
Speaker 2 (08:10):
How did she word the question?
Speaker 3 (08:11):
The first one was like, what does sleeping together mean? Okay, Katie,
if I wanted to, I could just go to town
on it.
Speaker 1 (08:18):
But I did. Then I sort of redirected it slightly.
Speaker 2 (08:21):
Yeah, yeah, so what was your answer? What I sleep time?
Speaker 3 (08:25):
She said, what do sleeping together mean? And I went, oh,
that's a great question. Where did this come from?
Speaker 1 (08:30):
Okay?
Speaker 3 (08:30):
Yeah, and she said, at school, there's two particular people
and they were talking about how they spent the weekend
together and they slept together.
Speaker 2 (08:38):
Okay, I mean, okay, that's.
Speaker 1 (08:40):
Okay, Well it's about seven.
Speaker 2 (08:43):
Oh yeah, there's two different meanings. I'm guessing which the
meaning is. But technically sleeping together is just sleeping in
the same bed. I mean that.
Speaker 3 (08:56):
I think they were just trying to rephrase it. So
I just said to her, That's why I said to her,
where does this come from? Because I thought she's going
to say to me, two of the girls had a
sleeper and they slept together. I was going to go
down that track. Yeah, you know, you're already three steps
ahead of every conversation that you're having. Yeah, these though,
these conversations like keep happening over the kitchen bench, or
these late night conversations, I'm going to call it late
(09:19):
night conversations with Gracie. I have to ask these questions
to know where they're coming from, to be able to
navigate the answer. Yeah. Again, going back to when you
put this out to other parents, some other parents like
were you're not telling other truth?
Speaker 1 (09:32):
I was like, no, no, I am telling.
Speaker 3 (09:34):
Other truth and I'm being truthful. I said, this is
just a different vibe to parenting these days. I said,
if I went to my mother at twelve and started
asking these questions, I would have been shut down. Yeah,
I said, my mom and I we didn't have an
open relationship like that where I would just ask.
Speaker 1 (09:50):
All of these questions.
Speaker 3 (09:52):
Number one, I was oblivious to it, didn't care one
single bit.
Speaker 1 (09:55):
Number two, we had Dolly Doctor.
Speaker 2 (09:57):
Yeah, right, yep.
Speaker 3 (09:59):
And I was trying to explain this to my girls, going, well,
you know, I didn't have the relationship that you've got
with me. You feel comfortable to ask me all of
these wonderful questions about life. I had a magazine. Yeah,
I had a Dolly Doctor where the section was closed
off and you had to peel the thing off, and
then you would open up and you would get these
pages that had this information in it, which was all
(10:20):
through a question and answer kind of vibe.
Speaker 2 (10:22):
Isn't it funny how when we grew up it wasn't
okay to ask those questions. We'll talk about that. So
it was supposed to be a very private. You should
feel shame if you're interested, That's what I mean.
Speaker 3 (10:35):
But we like even Dolly Doctor for instance, Like even
Dolly the magazine was targeted at twelve to fifteen year olds,
and then at fifteen, sort of sixteen, you were sort
of looking for the Cleo because in the Cleo was
like full sex sections where you could like read.
Speaker 1 (10:50):
About all of that no word of li Katie.
Speaker 3 (10:52):
That's how I learned half of my questions like, oh
my god, is that why I'm feeling that way?
Speaker 1 (10:56):
Or am I oh wow, that's why my body parts
look like that? Do you know what I mean?
Speaker 3 (11:01):
I did not ask my mother no, and so now
I'm like, I'm not not answering the question. I'm redirecting
them until I feel comfortable with my answer to her
and that it is age appropriate.
Speaker 1 (11:16):
Does it make it?
Speaker 3 (11:17):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (11:17):
So when you say to her, like, how much information
do you need? Because that whole thing you talk about
of once you know you can't unknow, Yeah, does she
want to know all the gory details?
Speaker 1 (11:29):
Yeah, exactly what happens?
Speaker 3 (11:31):
Why I redirect it back to her and go, well,
look where did this come from and what situation we're
talking about? Number one is a great way to talk
about what's going on but number two, it's sort of
like giving me an insight as to how far I'm
going to take it. Yeah, it'd be different if she
came and she was like, I saw this, and I've
heard this and and I don't understand that. My head's
in overwhelm. I would get that and I would go there, Yeah,
(11:53):
because that's where we're at.
Speaker 1 (11:55):
But this is you know, this is where it was
based from.
Speaker 3 (11:57):
But fuck me, Katie, parenting is getting harder and I
don't want to do it now.
Speaker 2 (12:02):
I remember driving past.
Speaker 3 (12:04):
We've got a lot of mate, You've got a lot
of adult shops along the same strip towards you out.
Speaker 2 (12:08):
Yeah, I know, I don't know. Like there's some really
kinky people in my neighborhood. I feel like, because there
are a lot of adults that.
Speaker 3 (12:16):
Same strip, I don't know how they Yeah, it makes
so much money.
Speaker 1 (12:20):
Again, there's kinky motherfucker. Yeah. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (12:22):
But I remember driving past adult shops when my girls
were younger, and Amelia said once she went, I know
what they're selling there, and I went to she went, yep,
strip of poles and sex wax.
Speaker 3 (12:40):
I was like, yeah, yeah, gosh, those poles are expensive too,