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February 27, 2025 40 mins

What happens when celebrities like Kanye West or Russell Brand say they’ve found Jesus? Should we cheer, cringe, or both? From the Apostle Paul’s rocky start to today’s public faith declarations, the Wyatt Matters team takes an honest look at how real conversion happens—and why we often get it wrong.

Then host Steve Wyatt walks us through the heart of true conversion: it’s not about spotlight faith, emotional fireworks, or celebrity status—it’s about following Jesus with humility and persistence. Whether you’re brand new to faith or skeptical of those who claim it, this episode invites you to see conversion through a lens of grace, clarity, and truth.

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