RHOA Recap: An Un-Grenada-ble Trip

The crew is back with another RHOA recap! The peaches are headed to Grenada, but not before the ladies make sure those donations are packed up - well, some of them anyway. Carlos, Dustin, and Claudia unpack the latest drama, including Brit’s party planner speaking out and a surprising country club lawsuit. With Season 16 winding down, they share their reunion predictions and guess how it will all end. Tune in for the tea!

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Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:01):
Welcome to Reality with the King. It's me Carlos Kings,
the King of Reality TV and one of the most
sought after executive producers in reality television with over ten
years of production experience. Twice a week on Reality with
the King, we'll sit down with my friends across the
entertainment industry, recap our favorite reality shows and revisit unforgettable

(00:24):
moments that we are still talking and tweeting about. All right,
so let's get it to the latest episode.

Speaker 2 (00:33):
This was a great introduction. By the way, we missed
your Claudia. Welcome back.

Speaker 1 (00:37):
I'm happy that you're here. Let's get write in to it.
You were missed for sure. The fans went crazy when
you weren't here last week, so we're happy that you're back.

Speaker 2 (00:46):
All right.

Speaker 1 (00:47):
So look, the episode of the Real Housewife of Atlanta
started off with Smia doing some charity work. What I
love about this scene is Shami and her daughter before
the girls, Kelly and Brick got there.

Speaker 2 (01:00):
Samia house of the castle.

Speaker 1 (01:02):
So to see that garage lifted up and those massive ass.

Speaker 3 (01:08):
Boxes backed up to the heavens that they was, I
love it.

Speaker 1 (01:13):
Mm hm, I I loved it so much and I
love the fact that she said when she when she
talks about her daughter living in privilege and how she
really wants to be able to teach her that you
are blessed and you have to pay it forward. I
thought that was that was beautiful before we get to
the killy and britt of it all. To me, this
scene solidified the importance of Shmia being on the show,

(01:37):
because not only does she bring a lot of wealth
and access to it, but it's the humility as a
mother of what she's teaching her daughter growing up in privilege.
Because listen, I'm gonna say this to y'all. I'm a
fan on TikTok of seeing black rich kids.

Speaker 4 (01:55):
I can watch all day.

Speaker 1 (01:58):
It puts a small on my face just discover Robert
Smith's daughter. She's like in her early twenties and she's
on TikTok living her best life.

Speaker 2 (02:08):
So that shit makes me happy. So I was happy
to see that.

Speaker 5 (02:10):
I love seeing that. I love that part of seeing
Shemia's storyline. I mean, let's keep it a buck, especially
after this episode. Not everybody got the bread they say
they have, okay, and it's nice to see Shemiah who
but doesn't even talk about her bread softly, show us
how she has it, and the fact that she you know,
some people get a few dollars you can tell new
money is usually arrogant and obnoxious, and Shemi is not.

(02:32):
Like she married a very wealthy man and they've been
together for ten years. And I love that she's instilling
that into her daughter instead of being a little brat,
you know, kind of she could easily be a spoiled
brat and she's not. And I thought that's a really
great lesson and I love, love love seeing that. I
love seeing that for Shemi, Like that was a very
important scene to me, especially you know, within a world
of Instagram posturing, you know, to kind of like instill

(02:57):
that early on because she didn't have to, because she
really got happen to.

Speaker 3 (03:01):
I thoroughly enjoyed that scene. First of all, Shamiah was
tailored up and then Gucci.

Speaker 4 (03:05):
Pants and shit.

Speaker 3 (03:06):
I don't know who her tailor is, but they had
cut that shit on her. She was in that Gucci
in that garage, that little beautiful black daughter of hers
with her beautiful little braids, running around and just being
a thriving child, well adjusted, articulated, articulating her little thoughts
and reasoning like that on camera.

Speaker 4 (03:25):
We love shit like that.

Speaker 3 (03:26):
That's what makes us love the Real Housewives of Atlanta,
And we do get attached to the children of these ladies.
We love watching them grow up on TV, seeing them
progress and watching them be rich black kids. It's just
like when Barack Obama won the election. I couldn't wait
to see them little girls running across that white house
lawn and the little rothschild coats and wool two peet

(03:48):
little hats and shit. I love seeing that. So I
love this scene. Samia's garage was full of shit to
give away, which was in a sharp contrast of what
we saw from Britt when she came over with that
quilted northern and I believe it was a box of
sanitary nepkins as well, and so you.

Speaker 4 (04:07):
Know, it was a bit different. But I loved this
scene and it was good to see.

Speaker 3 (04:12):
I also liked seeing Kelly and Shamiah and Britt having
conversation over Shiya. I liked seeing her watch her mama
and her mama's friends talk that sort of in the community.
That's what teaches our little black girls how to be
little black girls.

Speaker 4 (04:28):
And I love seeing her looking up listening intently to
what they were saying.

Speaker 3 (04:32):
That was just good TV and that's why we love
Shemiah being on this cast.

Speaker 1 (04:36):
So yes, no, I thought so too. So you brought
up Kelly and Britt arriving. Brett arrived with some stuff,
and she did bring up the event that was in
last week's episode. Claudea, you weren't there for that one,
so not sure you know what's been going on. But
Brett had an event, Hey, Tisha, she had an event

(04:59):
that went a at a country club I believe is
where she said they live, and a lot of people
were unable to eat. And there's been such fodder on
social media about this. Britt in last night's episode brought
it up again and just pretty much said that's not

(05:19):
her standard when it comes to not feeding people, not
having an event of her standard. And there's a lot
of things happening on the blogs about what's been going
on with Brid's situation. Have you guys been seeing this?

Speaker 5 (05:34):
I saw that bullshit all the way from Saint Martin. Okay,
that was some bullshit. First of all, how do you
have an event where just what seven eight people get
food and everybody else is supposed to be peasants, And
at first she did say that they weren't even supposed
to be seated, that they're supposed to be standing around
and like just kind of like just to give in
ambiyonce and like use everybody that's there as unpaid extras,

(05:57):
and like Brett, look, if you don't have it, you
don't have you don't have to show it, you know
what I'm saying. I remember when I was on the show, Yo,
y'all show me putting together some Ikea furniture. It was
when my real front show was being delivered in the
moving truck. Was lay, y'all play me. But it's all right,
you don't have to go in there. Everybody ain't rich.
And I feel like on Instagram and on social media
and on on reality shows, everyone feels this immense pressure

(06:20):
to be wealthy when they're not. Meanwhile, you're breaking the bank,
you're renting clothes. Ooh, there's so many other people I
could put on blasts right now, especially from the other
show we did it together, Carlos anyways, but like people lie,
and it's like I feel that in one regard. It's
like I understand the pressure like you have to like
put this image, but in this case it backfired. It
made her look super ridiculous. Obviously with the wardrobe. I

(06:42):
know this is last week's episode. I mean, obviously you're
not used to being at a country club like that.
If you think that's the way you address to go
on a golf course. They don't like you to wear
heels because you dama made the course. You got to
replacedvits like you like, that's golf etiquette. No one in
their right mind when I go to the celebrity golf
trendment said I'm invited to and you know, islands and

(07:02):
stuff like that. Bermuda was my last one. There's no
heels on the course. You have to wear a collared
shirt and proper foot attire. I remember one time I
tried it, like the shirt like Carlos has on. I
remember I tried it one time with a tank top
and they let me because I was a celebrity. But
it was definitely very much against golf etiquette. That was
so ridiculous. And that's someone that doesn't know what she

(07:24):
was doing. And Kelly clocked it. She said, I don't
see none of her neighbors seem to know who she is,
Like they don't know, the members don't recognize her. Britt,
I think you keep failing by trying to be something
you're not. And we would like you more if you
just kept it a buck about who you really were.
If you can't afford to feed twenty people that don't
try to feed, they don't have an event like that,
just have it for the girls, because now you look dumb,

(07:46):
and you got a lawsuit, Now you look crazy.

Speaker 2 (07:48):
What is this lawsuit that Britt has right now?

Speaker 4 (07:52):
I know because I don't really care about it.

Speaker 3 (07:54):
To me, like the whole digging into the lawsuit shit
is like just extra. We saw enough on the show
when we saw that there wasn't enough food to go around,
So there's no more that we need to know to me, like,
obviously she wasn't proactive or her team whoever was responsible
for planning and organizing her event, they did not have
a plan B in place. That should not have been

(08:16):
a need for one. Either you have food or you don't.
And once herself and whoever else was making decisions for
her was made aware that there was an issue with
the food, it's a very simple fix.

Speaker 4 (08:27):
You put the car down get it together.

Speaker 3 (08:29):
If they don't have the supplies there, you order from
somewhere else, even if it's gotta be wings. You know
what I'm saying. You just order it and get it
to the people. Open that bar up, put a car
down on that bar, open that bar up. Get everybody drunk,
and make amends for the obvious oversight. The digging into
these lawsuits and Fulton County and all this other shit.

Speaker 4 (08:47):
That's just a bit much for me personally.

Speaker 3 (08:49):
It's just me, So I didn't really invest too much
time into looking at it.

Speaker 5 (08:53):
So you saying the lawsuit isn't worth a three two
plai charman that Brit brought to the fundraiser. Listen, listen.
I just can't with Britt this whole episode. Like every time,
like I take my foot up a BRIT's neck for
like an episode or two or whatever, she do something

(09:16):
stupid like this, Like, first of all, these people in Grenada,
Grenada need stuff, and you over here bring in like
the bare minimum, like and here's the thing again, you
don't if you don't have it, you don't have it.
But what's obnoxious is showing up with the Hermes bag
and bringing two rolls of toilet paper in some some
tampons or some pads like that's like where and then oh, my,

(09:39):
my team, she's always blame it on our team. Will
you are clearly on a losing team. If the team
can't deliver for you, go through that closet and bring
some clothes that you don't wear anymore, like stuff that
you want to already posted on Instagram. Like it's not
that hard, you know. I just feel like she did
again did herself with DIOS service by doing that, she
looked ridiculous carrying how I look like bringing a Hermes

(09:59):
bag and I'm bringing you twelve dollars worth of supplies.

Speaker 2 (10:04):
Yeah, yeah, no, it is the case.

Speaker 1 (10:06):
And then you know, the party planner did release a
statement pretty much saying that the event was not of
her liking either due to some restrictions that she was under.
So listen, it's one of those things where as reality producer,
you follow the reality. Obviously this happened before the episode aired,

(10:28):
but it is something that people are talking about when
it comes to what Claudia is saying, which is when
you get on reality television and there is this perception
of living beyond your means, and that's why I always
tell people, and I've said this every week on this month,
and I live blah blah blah. You really just have
to be yourself. And I promise you, if you go

(10:50):
in being yourself, you will always, always, always win the audience.
You mean I win one hundred percent of them, because
no one does, but you will win the large majority
of them because when you give people an excuse to
talk about stuff like this, because everybody is talking about
these things that have on earth. I do agree with

(11:11):
the fact that, look, let's focus on the show. But
the problem that's happening is so much is happening outside
of the show that is carrying the season. And that's
why this is the first season in a very long
time or maybe ever where the fourth wall is constantly

(11:32):
being broken. And we saw that with Porsche and Drew said, down, Porsche,
don't do nor more.

Speaker 2 (11:43):
Sit down baby at this point.

Speaker 5 (11:46):
Don't do any more reality because you are not delivering
this season. You're not and you're so cute. She's such
a cute girl and she used to be. She's not
giving like she's another one that's not like listen, Porsche,
like you were the most anticipated return to reality TV
people wanted to see you and hear your story. And
I know you were kind of cut at the feet

(12:06):
a little bit with Simon not letting you record in
the house, but you still could have talked about things
that we cared about, these fake beas with Drew, these
bad sit downs where you're getting you know, Drew fucking clowns.
She read you down. You looked you lost that one.
And she used to be so much funnier in her
green screens and she's not. It's giving grasping for straws,
and I feel like there's like some sort of desperation,

(12:27):
like I know I don't have it. I gotta try
to give something. So it said she's just saying mean
shit in her green screens instead of just like keeping
in the buck. All right, all right, I was tripping.
I know Drew Ane messing with my ex, you know,
but I just I'm being yo. We would laugh more
if you just admitted I was being a petty bitch,
Like I would appreciate that more than just acting like
it's a bigger deal than it's not when it's really not.

(12:47):
Like it's just a lot of posturing this season.

Speaker 3 (12:51):
Yeah, one of my favorite things about Porsche ever since
he's been on the show. Was her kind of in
the moment, one hundred percent off the dome, quick witty retorts, comebacks,
you know, funny things to say, like when her and
Kenya before Kenya departed, when they were at that dinner
at the Bank at the Vault, I think it was
called or the Bank, whatever that restaurant was, and they

(13:12):
were joking about the soulful menu in a funny way
and Porscha's yeam bite.

Speaker 4 (13:17):
They was going back and forth. That was funny.

Speaker 3 (13:19):
I like that Porscha and I haven't seen that much
of her that side of her personality this season. And
when you know, again most of your earlier point, Carlos,
when there's so much going on off the show, obviously,
we know that Porscha is going through the shit she's
going through with Simon, and to her credit, she's been
as forthcoming about that as she can off camera in

(13:39):
interviews on her YouTube channel. But when it comes to
the show itself, it's a different presentation, and I think
that that's where the disconnect is happening for me and
a few other viewers. Even though she looks gorgeous like
a dial on the screen, we're hearing the things that
she's saying, it's not really lining up with the shit
she's doing, Like the light.

Speaker 4 (14:00):
Did I say that? What's I talking about that? Did
I say that?

Speaker 3 (14:02):
When you were literally on a high mic off camera
saying this stuff? You know what I'm saying. It just
kind of is a misalignment. And I want better for Porsche.
I feel like season seventeen, all this shit will be
worked out that needs to be worked out for her
to exist kind of in the fullness of her personality
on this cast, and maybe we'll see more, I'm hoping,

(14:23):
And I'm also looking forward to the reunion because, make
no mistake, Porsche Williams is very well aware of.

Speaker 4 (14:28):
The criticism she's receiving.

Speaker 3 (14:30):
She's very well aware of what people are and are
not saying, and I think that her performance at the reunion,
which I believe they take this week, should be interesting.

Speaker 2 (14:40):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (14:41):
So Porsche did address the things you brought up, dustand
so Porscha after YouTube channel subscribe to a Porsche for Real.

Speaker 2 (14:49):
She did speak about what.

Speaker 1 (14:52):
We talked about before, which is stuff happening that we're
not seeing, but also what's going on with her and
Drew being over it. So listen, I'm gonna say this.
I am over this working with Dennis. I think it's
the storyline has run its course.

Speaker 2 (15:12):
It's not juicy.

Speaker 1 (15:14):
It's something that should have been three episodes max, only
because unless Drew was really sleeping with Dennis, I don't
care about this storyline.

Speaker 2 (15:27):
I don't care.

Speaker 1 (15:27):
About the idea of, well, y'all, you're filming with my
baby daddy, you filming with my husband. I think for
the audience this and this is just me being honest,
it's taking us out of the real moment because we're
confused as to why Episode thirteen I think was last night.

(15:51):
We are still talking about something that happened episode one,
and they addressed it, and I think Portia and Drew
sit down really showed me that they both seem seemed
to care about it, you know what I mean, Like
I didn't feel connected to it.

Speaker 2 (16:11):
I didn't think they were connected to it.

Speaker 1 (16:13):
Porscha said that Drew is dating her producer Black. She
later revealed that Dennis allegedly said it to her. She
said that in her professional Drew alleged that Porsche is
dating somebody else and.

Speaker 5 (16:27):
Future, she said, we don't protect one and not protect
the other. But Bravo, I don't like that they protected
Porsche by not saying Future's name. Who's a known thought
in Atlantica. Anyone could scoo feature. Okay, he's so easy
to gain, all right, he's just raw dog with everybody. Porsche,
be careful before you get a bacteria infection if you

(16:49):
are messing with him, because he clearly doesn't use comments
with all those kids, like you can't like not show
hear the name that they're saying about Porsche. But then
put a picture of a guy that Drew's allegedly with
and she said it wasn't true and then blur his
face off. I just don't like that. That's very unfair.
And those are the kinds of things that make me
still have to keep pressure on her. And that's actually

(17:11):
Bravo's fault, right in editing. That's not right, and that
turns the viewers off where there seems to be favoritism,
Like what's good for the goose better be good for
the motherfucking Ganda, because that ain't right. Why we protecting
one but we ain't protecting the other. Now Drew has
to deal with false allegations allegedly right, and it's okay
for us and no Black's name, but it okay for
us to know future future, future future. I said it.

(17:34):
Fugure mask off, fucking mask off.

Speaker 3 (17:38):
Okay, I love futures and music. Everybody know that's one
of my favorite rappers. So the thought of him imports
the dating I was turned on. You know what I'm saying.
But you know, I think they look good together.

Speaker 4 (17:50):
But you know, I understand why. It's the thing. I
get it.

Speaker 3 (17:54):
And also I just want to say, March Madness is
one of the greatest rap songs of all time. I
want the orchestra to play March man Is when I'm
shaking my peers hands is I'm walking up the aisle
to except my ship.

Speaker 5 (18:08):
He's dope for music. I love his music. Listen, that's
great music. Listen. I get it. Porscha, I get it, Porscha,
I'm not. We listen. He's not an ugly eye either.
We get it. But like I'm just talking about the
fact of protecting context, protecting one out the other. Let's
keep it fair here, keep it fair. That's not me dragon.

Speaker 1 (18:26):
I think did you what I thought was interesting is
and the reason why everybody is commenting about being future,
even Claudia is because on the the the mid season trailer,
his name wasn't bleed, but in the episode it was bleed.

Speaker 2 (18:49):
That's why it was confusing, because.

Speaker 1 (18:52):
It's out there already, right, just based on that, And
then I do know it was something that Simon alleged
that happened. And I think that's the reason why Drew
mentioned his name too, because Simon alleged that during his
his his his time on social media. But listen, perhaps
a cease and desist was sent over. But I think

(19:15):
listen to Just's point. If it's true, and we don't
know if it's true. If it's true, it's not a
bad thing to day Porsche. If it's true Porsche, I
think we all aliked Look furuture appears to be a
good time, and ain't nobody mad if.

Speaker 2 (19:29):
It's a good time.

Speaker 5 (19:30):
And she very well may not have dated him, and
it may be just Simon being a hater and throwing
that out there. My point is not whether or not
she did or she didn't. That's her business. If she's,
like listen, she going through a divorce from from Simon,
she can date who she wants to date, and that's like,
that's keeping a buck. My point was the inconsistencies, like
protecting Porsche's alleged hookup but not protecting Drew's alleged up

(19:54):
when they're both in the same position going through messy divorces,
Like let's have you know, maybe the black allegation with
supposed it was Drew is not true either, and I
feel like we don't know that either want to be
true or false, but like have the same energy for both.
That's what I had a problem with.

Speaker 2 (20:12):
Yeah, I just got a problem with the whole storyline.

Speaker 1 (20:14):
I thought, listen, it was cute episode one, maybe episode
five when the whole thing came about with like whether
or not Shemia got the message wrongly delivered to Drew
about Drew's album paying for Polar's tuition.

Speaker 2 (20:31):
So to me.

Speaker 1 (20:32):
Yeah, I just think it was one of those things
where I was like, I honestly don't care, and as
I was watching the scene, I think they both just
did not seem to even give a shit either.

Speaker 2 (20:46):
I'm glad they made up about it in.

Speaker 1 (20:48):
That episode, but I think it just has no I
think it's did Wait, child, we are just getting started.
This is reality with the King and I'm Carlos King.

(21:10):
Let's get back into the show.

Speaker 5 (21:13):
It seemed like it's just dragging. Like in the past,
it seemed like this is what some of the White
Housewives shows would do. No shade, like, I'm not being
racist like that, but I'm saying like, it seemed like
the more White Housewives franchises would be stuck on a
very small issue for many, many weeks and you're like,
oh my god, she didn't go to the bar mits,
but who gives damn. Like seven episodes later, we're still
talking about it. And the Atlanta Housewives always had big

(21:36):
like the reads were big, the big, big drama where
you're like, all right, I get it. So it was exciting.
This is giving kind of scrambling for storyline. Let me
drag this for like six, seven, eight, nine episodes because
if like, it's not that big of a deal some
of the stuff. And now we're still we're looking at
a meet up lunch between Drew and Porsche that should
have happened episode three. In episode thirteen, we're all she's

(22:00):
doing the entire time is bringing up black trying to
embarrass her, and then Drew is popping off back and
do we think they're going to get back on and
cool again before the end of the season. I don't
think so. I don't think there's enough time for him
to get back cool. I don't think so. What do
you think?

Speaker 4 (22:13):
Yeah?

Speaker 3 (22:13):
And to be fair, Porscha had a lot of shit
she couldn't talk about this season, right, so I'm sure
she was searching for things to dig deeper into and
present on camera. I just wish they would have picked
something else, because this shit with Drew and this student's
filming scenes and all of that shit is just it
is literally belabored. At this point, we have had it

(22:35):
with that situation, and everybody's had it.

Speaker 4 (22:38):
Were just ready to move on collectively.

Speaker 3 (22:40):
I was much more entertained by Porsche the dialogue they
had at the table in Grenada, when they were all
sitting down and her finally saying, maybe I did you know.

Speaker 4 (22:51):
To take it too far or whatever, Let's move on.

Speaker 3 (22:53):
I was happy to see that because there's so much
other shit that they could be talking about.

Speaker 4 (22:58):
Fatrius back.

Speaker 3 (23:00):
Why hasn't anybody talked about where things were before she lived?
Why can't we see her and Porsche talk about them
patching up their friendship? Because the explanation that we were
giving when Faedro returned it wasn't enough to me.

Speaker 4 (23:13):
We want to see the healing.

Speaker 3 (23:14):
That could be something that Porsche could lean into that's
really authentic that we could see, you know what I mean,
because there's so much that we can't see other than
pulling this shit out of their asses about Drew and
Dennis and all this other shit that just don't make
any sense.

Speaker 5 (23:27):
The ogs are kind of letting us down. They're letting
us well, I think to me, like when you think
Fajr parks, like for years, there were some people that
are her fans or Housewives fans that really wanted the
return of Phaedro to the show. And when Porsche wasn't
there for a while, people really wanted her to come back.
And they came back, and they're really not giving. They're

(23:47):
not giving because they're refusing to address the elephants in
the room or they can't. Phaeda, like you would be
the talk of the town if like we would really
have a serious conversation about the big life that you know,
all that stuff, but they're like staying away from that,
and all you're coming with is these weird faces. It
looks like your top teeth are missing, like the blonde hair,

(24:08):
like you're not really giving, You're being mean to people.
Once again, you don't even know, and that's why people think.
I don't know what people think my issue with portrait phagers,
and I'm not going to spend more time on it.
But the same thing happened when I got on the show.
She went on. Ellen Degeneral is talking about me before
she even met me. It doesn't like why you going
in like you don't know these people and you're going

(24:29):
in before you even do one scene with them. It's
different if you do a commentary, but you're going into
this friend circle late in the game and being a
mean girl out the gate. And I don't think it's
I don't think it's giving like the shade that she thinks.
And it's not funny like it could be. I think
it's funny. It's not funny.

Speaker 3 (24:45):
What we also know for sure is that Fader's not
quick on her feet on that reunion stage with no notes,
and so I think that she's going to be in
for a rude awakening when they get on their stage,
because these ladies have watched this shit and they've seen
the things that have been said, and they watched the
show for previous years. I think we're going to see

(25:06):
some interesting conversations on that reunion stage.

Speaker 5 (25:09):
I just found it really funny for Asia to sit
there and call Brit I mean a girl about town,
PHAs now, Phaja parks Fai phaser PHAs now, don't get
me to talk and honey, boom boo, because you're not
the woman the Christian that you try to portray yourself
to be. You're very much in these streets with lots

(25:30):
of rappers on air mattresses with ankle bracelets back in
the day, allegedly, and you have done your dirt, so
that may not be the area, like lying, fraud and
hoism may not be the area that you may want
to attack. Maybe attack on something else, because you know,
never attack on things that you're guilty of. So you're
strong suits you can attack on. You're smart, you're educated,

(25:51):
you've been to school, got a big ass, you know
you those are your strong suits. But like when you
are like before you even like get to know this,
girls like you was really coming for people that you're
kind of like, what's the difference between you and Britt?

Speaker 2 (26:04):
Actually, so I do want to talk about.

Speaker 1 (26:06):
Speaking of which, I want to talk about the shade
that Phaedra made to Angela because Claudia is the last
week we did talk about Padri's return, and I said, like,
oh my gosh, it was funny. I was laughing, you know,
the little shade here and there. I thought was funny.
Obviously I'm not that person, so it's not at my expense,
but I thought it was fun like shade, right, I

(26:29):
will admit in this episode.

Speaker 2 (26:32):
When Paedra.

Speaker 1 (26:34):
Talked about Angela and she said how she is the
oldest looking younger person she's ever met, and hopefully her
personality is more youthful than her face, I was.

Speaker 2 (26:50):
I didn't like that. And the reason why I don't
like is because, look, I come from the old school Housewives.
I love. I love a good shade of good read.
When Nini and Shary ready.

Speaker 1 (26:59):
To about the doggy tea, your carving repossessed your baseball knees,
you know, put them put them knees on a treadmill.

Speaker 2 (27:08):
Your skin can use of bleaching.

Speaker 1 (27:11):
Those ladies were friends before the show happened, and this
happened season four or four years into the show. So
when they read each other about their appearances. The reason
why we all laughed about it is because those two
had a friendship and we saw a history between Nienie
and Charae that warranted shade to not just be about

(27:33):
you know, your gate is broken.

Speaker 2 (27:35):
Or your car got repossessed. They said, bitch, I'm gonna
go for the gusto. But they earned it. Nieni and
Scharay earned the.

Speaker 1 (27:42):
Right to come for each other's physical appearance. And I
feel like Phaedra attacking Angela's physical appearance without even physically
meeting her. I just felt I didn't feel good about it.
I didn't like get at all.

Speaker 5 (28:01):
I thought it was especiallylashbacks of phasia. Phaedria is a
She's not a renovation. She's a complete tear down and
rebuild of what she looked like when she first got
on the show. Let's keep it a buck, okay, Phaedra,
you have your audacity to sit here and say, Angela
looks like the oldest young person you've ever seen. Angela
is the most natural person on that show. Clock that's

(28:22):
he the most natural body is snatched, doesn't have a
ridiculous looking bbl her waist. She looks good. She's had
some work done on her face. She we talked about that,
the nose, whatever, but she's pretty natural in comparison to
a lot of reality stars and for her torself, come
out there out the gate and say that she once again,
you're attacking something that you're weak in yourself. We all

(28:43):
see the throwbacks when you first came on that show
looking like someone's grandma.

Speaker 3 (28:47):
Okay, and for you, yes, and that was just what
a year ago, you know what I'm saying, right, And
that's the thing I mean, friend, I'm sorry, but physical appearance,
it's just subjective, right, Like people, everybody has an opinion
on what's attractive to them and what's not.

Speaker 4 (29:04):
And that's just a dangerous water to plan.

Speaker 3 (29:06):
Now if we arguing, you know what I'm saying, and
we're at that level and we're going there.

Speaker 4 (29:11):
Then fuck it, let the shit fly.

Speaker 3 (29:13):
But unprompted, unsolicited, unwarranted, just going after Angela's physical appearance
like that, it wasn't cool, you know what I'm saying.

Speaker 4 (29:21):
It just wasn't It didn't look good, it didn't land well.

Speaker 3 (29:24):
It was not a way to return when you just
came back off the heels of you saying some crazy
shit in the first place, which is why you are
part of this show for all that time. It's not
the way to come back in. I would like to
see just her be funny outside of punching down, you
know what I'm saying, Like it's a way to do
it without being mean spirited.

Speaker 5 (29:46):
It's given because she came in late in the season
that she feels like she got to come out guns
blazing and like just kind of make a splash. But
the old Phaser that had you know, some funny reads
come in with that and that's enough. It's almost like overcome. Okay,
I haven't been here for I missed eleven episodes, so
let me come in here, attack Angela. Attack this when
attack this? Want attack this one when? Okay, we get

(30:07):
reading as part of this. But like, Angela hasn't done
anything to you.

Speaker 4 (30:11):
Yet, right, it's got to make sense. It's got to
make sense.

Speaker 1 (30:14):
Yeah, when it was when it was to that degree,
like I said, listen calling Kelly and Garden known because
she's short, Okay, Like you know, like okay, that's whatever, right,
Bristol girl about town, Okay whatever, even even in this episode, now,
look I did because I'm.

Speaker 2 (30:32):
Very honest, right, and fair when she said.

Speaker 1 (30:35):
Drew, I don't hope I Drew stuff, but she alsoul
trained like that to be as funny, you.

Speaker 3 (30:41):
Know what I mean, like you could it was funny
but right, it was funny.

Speaker 2 (30:47):
Yes, that was the thing.

Speaker 1 (30:48):
It's one of the things where you can make a
joke that can be a little bit age is.

Speaker 2 (30:55):
But I think the thing that threw me off about.

Speaker 1 (30:59):
Angela was just Angela said two seconds before that, shady bye.

Speaker 2 (31:04):
I see Fedra looking forward to meeting her. Then damn
she blew her head off.

Speaker 1 (31:09):
And the thing about Drew because to me, it was
more so about Drew's profession, right, like I know, watch
her old stuff that she dances, soul trained like that
to me is.

Speaker 2 (31:19):
Lighthearted. Again, I'm not Drew, so I don't know how
she took it.

Speaker 1 (31:23):
But if I'm being honest, right, I was turned off
by the Angela disc but the Drew soul trained comment.
I did laugh out loud because I thought was like, okay,
that's that's funny. But I do think this.

Speaker 2 (31:35):
I do think this. I was looking forward to seeing.

Speaker 1 (31:40):
Faedra's life in this episode because she is back and
I wanted to see her at home. I wanted to see,
mister president.

Speaker 4 (31:48):
Beautiful kid.

Speaker 5 (31:49):
She's got beautiful.

Speaker 1 (31:51):
Yeah, because she's a housewife right right, she's holding a peach.
I did expect to see some faith your personal story
in this episode, whether it was this is me being honest,
whether it was Faedra packing to go to Grenada while
her kids were there and she's telling them like.

Speaker 2 (32:12):
You know her. Because Faedra is a great mom.

Speaker 1 (32:15):
So anytime you get to see Fadra being a mom,
it balances out.

Speaker 2 (32:20):
Her lethal shade.

Speaker 1 (32:22):
And I think because and this this is I'm being honest,
because we're not seeing and it's been two episodes, I know,
but Faedra is coming in hot, and I think what
could have been a balance of a kool off is
if we would have been settled in her life and
been welcomed with her at home with the kids getting

(32:45):
ready for Grenada uppacking, so that this lethal shade doesn't
feel like uh, Because I think what we're all experiencing
is every time we see Faja pop up on screen,
it's like a lethal shade that comes down to confessionals
and it's like, give us, give us a beat. Like
we were twelve weeks in and we got to come
a little bit and.

Speaker 5 (33:06):
It's not as funny as what it used to be,
you know what I mean. She's definitely I think I
think she's lost a step when it comes to like
her funny reads. And maybe she's like feeling awkward because
she hasn't been around and she's a bit rusty. But
for her to come, see, I didn't like the shade
for Drew's career because I like so I was like,
you know what, I'm all about fair and balance. So
let's talk about Phada's career because she always prides herself

(33:29):
on being a brilliant attorney. So let's if you do
a simple Google search of Phaja Parks and Bobby Brown,
let me just give you a quote from Bobby Brown. Meanwhile,
Brown said of Parks in his book, I won't cast
aspirations on her lowering skills, but I will say that
when she was my lawyer, I usually wind up going
to jail. So, you know, she likes to talk shit
about people's careers and stuff. But like in the words

(33:50):
of Cynthia Bailey, win a case. You know, so then
she became an undertaker because her career in law was
as dead as the bodies that she said she wanted
to curate and fix and work on. So you come
in here with this whack ass jokes for people who
actually do have a career. Listen, you can say a
lot of things about Drew, you can call her a liar,
you can question some of her her truth, but what

(34:11):
you cannot do is come for the girl's talent. I
did a movie with this girl. She's a great actress
and she's a great singer, and you can't come for
the career. And even saying soul trained, honey, you look
like you as a dancer on Soul Trained, with the
looks that you had up until the last three years
when you finally got a lace front, because you're the
one that gives nineteen sixties nineteen seventies was around back
when there was black and white television. So you coming

(34:33):
for someone else's age career. And again that's not where
you should be. Phaedria. Use your strong suits, huge, use education,
use your degrees. But instead you're falling flat. And the
reason I'm really reading and it seems like when she
doesn't have a Kenya to go up against, she's not
really giving anything.

Speaker 2 (34:51):
We need.

Speaker 5 (34:51):
You need Apollo, and you need Kenya, because you're not
giving anything. You're not you're giving, you're giving. This is
just another check. She's got a lot of reality shows
she's on, which I give her congress on that she's
making a lot of money Traders, all House of Villains,
all these shows I think she's doing. And this seems
like a stop along the way. It doesn't seem as invested,
because maybe you'd have better things to say. You're a

(35:12):
smart girl. You could do better than these lazy reads
you've been doing. I don't like them.

Speaker 3 (35:16):
Yeah, I agree with Claudia. I think we had a
great opportunity to be reintroduced to Faedra, right, this is
she She was in such a unique and great position,
right like getting put back on to the fucking Real
Housewives of Atlanta after a multi year hiatus like that.
Quiet said that Candy Birds had benched her for all
them years, you know what I'm saying over at the Housewives.

Speaker 4 (35:37):
So for her to be able to come back and have.

Speaker 3 (35:39):
The opportunity to reintroduce yourself to the audience, that was
a hell of an opportunity.

Speaker 4 (35:44):
And so far, I don't want.

Speaker 3 (35:45):
To speak prematurely, but two episodes in it looks like
the opportunity has been.

Speaker 5 (35:49):
Because she came.

Speaker 4 (35:50):
I don't think there was any strategy in place whatsoever.

Speaker 3 (35:53):
You know what I'm saying. I think she just started filming.
At least that's what it appears to be.

Speaker 4 (35:57):
To me.

Speaker 5 (35:57):
It's giving letdown and I feel like with all that, listen,
there's no doubt that Fada was not a good housewise
what she was on the show. I will give her that.
If she came with like half of that talent and
that presence, it would make it. She would quickly rise
to be like one of the stars of the show.

Speaker 4 (36:14):
Right.

Speaker 5 (36:14):
We'd be like, Yo, this is what we missed because
you don't have Nini, you don't enough Kenya, you don't
have like you know, the ogi's really like that. She
could have easily walked in and kind of ran it,
but instead she went this route. And I think she
should just came in with funny reads, not just that's
not enough just to buy that paycheck, you know, it's
not enough. I don't know, are we getting paid to

(36:37):
make facial expressions? Well, Carlos, you owe me four hundred
thousand dollars.

Speaker 2 (36:47):
Off story. I'm trying to make sure this thing cooks.

Speaker 5 (36:50):
That's how Look I got Fagers whole season and ten seconds.
Uh oh, not a garden nome. I love little people. Wait,
let me hide my top teach.

Speaker 2 (37:05):
Please, I'm not mad.

Speaker 5 (37:07):
I'm just honest. You know, you know it rain drops whatever?
Is it? Just the bottom teeth and at the time
of what we're doing. I know that's a new trend
where people fix the top teeth and at the bottom.
But she got the reverse. I don't know, but fed
go back to what made you great when you came
on the show, being funny line about new dates and

(37:28):
all that. But it's okay. It still made it for
an interesting story. But this we're here attacking Angela and
other people before you even meet them, Like, at least
meet them then we can justify it. We'll be with
We'll be with you when you write yeah, and also
think this.

Speaker 2 (37:40):
I'm in with this.

Speaker 1 (37:41):
I also because as somebody who worked on the show,
I love Listen. Nothing is better than a face off,
like face and face you know what I mean, Like
a face to face off. You know what I'm saying,
Like listen Fedra versus Kenya face to face Me to
Co season five, six, seven, eight nine, Like that's I

(38:05):
love a face and face face off. So I think,
to your point, if that's going to be a read,
I think, say it to their face so that it
can be a ping pong and I and I think then,
I think then the audience would appreciate it and would
appreciate the read. Because even when you and Nini had
y'all back and forth and again on.

Speaker 2 (38:25):
My podcast, when I asked.

Speaker 1 (38:27):
The legend the icon the Queen Nini leagues, of all
the battles you had in your career Housewives, which one
was your most Like, I'm forgetting how I praised it,
but like it was yeah, like you're formidable opponent. And
she said, Claudia Jordan, thank you. I'm like, hey, Kim Zosiak,

(38:50):
she said, if I had to give to any of
these girls, Claudia and I think it's because she appreciated
and I'm gonna speak be Nini, she can speak for herself.
I think it's because Nini appreciated this girl came to
me with the read to my face as a newbie,

(39:11):
and that back and forth ping pongrus was respected. Clauda
didn't hide behind anything, like she said to your face.

Speaker 2 (39:18):
So I think when these re.

Speaker 1 (39:22):
Reads are iconic when it's face to face and not rehearse.

Speaker 2 (39:26):
To me, Claudia, I said face to face child, all right,
so we're gonna I said face to face, Sudie. So
when we.

Speaker 6 (39:38):
Look at the.

Speaker 1 (39:40):
First of all, Claudia, does it getsphasor of rougher buddy
with faces?

Speaker 2 (39:45):
Does it faces where you and I be going?

Speaker 1 (39:47):
At some times it's the funniest.

Speaker 2 (39:51):
Look back because I'm such a fantom of mother. I
live that. On Tuesday mornings, I watched it again.

Speaker 1 (40:00):
Hey, y'all.

Speaker 5 (40:01):
In the comments, I'll come of say something. I know
I'm not supposed to being the comments, but I do,
right because I like to hear if there's something we're missing.
There's no jealousy or hate towards any of these women.
These I'm so far removed from that. That was ten
years ago, you guys. I live in Dallas. I'm not
trying to get on Atlanta. I've been gone for literally
eleven years. Actually it's not about that. But when I'm

(40:21):
asked to do commentary, I'm going to comment commentates on
what I feel and what I think. Whether I was
on the show or not, it has nothing to do
with it. I can provide a little extra context because
I did work with some of these people and I
know how the reality game goes to an extent, So
please don't take my honesty for any kind of bit.
I'm not bitter or jealous of Porsche or Phaser. I
have a very fucking amazing life, glowing hairline, real, everything, real,

(40:48):
I'm happy, I look young. It's not that.

Speaker 3 (40:52):
This is a commentary, so we're here to give commentary.

Speaker 4 (40:57):
You know what I'm saying. That's why I stay out.
You can, you.

Speaker 6 (41:05):
Can?

Speaker 5 (41:05):
I can?

Speaker 6 (41:06):
I do that.

Speaker 2 (41:08):
Not not a trust.

Speaker 3 (41:12):
Give you guys topefully that we need to get your
sacred endorsement line.

Speaker 4 (41:18):
And show.

Speaker 2 (41:20):
Anywhere moving on. This is called a transition.

Speaker 5 (41:23):
Okay, I just want to put that to bed. It's
not that. But if you want me to be fake,
I can be fad fake things and be like, oh.

Speaker 1 (41:29):
Well, Claudia, I think you should know by now when
you weren't here for a week.

Speaker 2 (41:33):
They missed you. So listen.

Speaker 1 (41:36):
The ones who get it getting The ones who don't
just never will And that's fine, that's fine, it's fine.
But I appreciate everybody who tunes in because at the
end of the day, We're obviously provided some commentary for
you guys to watch, and I, along with Claudia and Dustin,
we all appreciate you taking time on a Monday night
to watch us. Okay, So, whether you disagree with Claudia,

(41:56):
Dustin or be, I appreciate you opportunity again.

Speaker 2 (41:59):
And I know they do tool.

Speaker 4 (42:02):
In this square. Do you see what she is doing?

Speaker 5 (42:13):
These are real too. I'm just fat.

Speaker 2 (42:16):
This is the thing. This is the thing.

Speaker 1 (42:19):
I don't know how y'all can hate Claudia because listen, listen,
this is me. This social media, don't do it even
if you disagree with the person. I always think it's
best to just say at least the chick is funny
or the guy's fuddy.

Speaker 2 (42:38):
Like you don't have to like Claudia, but come.

Speaker 5 (42:40):
On, my real ones like me, and I just that
the ones that like me love me, and the ones
that hate me, I haven't met me yet.

Speaker 1 (42:51):
All the tears let me last night, moderator, give my ts.

Speaker 5 (42:57):
Yeah, not rented, nuther hair. I will rent if I'm
hosting a reunion. I rent because I might kind of
wear it again, but I don't not my everyday life. Okay,
now that we're clear.

Speaker 1 (43:19):
Okay, So thank you Alabama, SAVI love you. Okay, let's
get into some of the girls arriving Granada are all
of our mutual friends. Cynthia Belly admitted that she's in love.
The guy is younger.

Speaker 2 (43:35):
I want to talk about this really.

Speaker 1 (43:36):
Fast because I think it's important. Cynthia is with a
younger man. She did not just close his age, so
I'm not he lives in Absterdam. Everything that I'm saying,
she disclosed herself. She's sat on the after show and
it made me sad, and I want to bring this up,
not only for Claudia and Dustin to talk about, but

(43:59):
I know this lot of people in these comments who
love when we talk about relationships, Cynthia said on the
after show as she was talking about her new love
and she was telling Drew some of this too.

Speaker 2 (44:12):
She said.

Speaker 1 (44:14):
Dating him feels different because he treats her nice. And
she said she almost broke it off with him because
he was just too nice, and she had to capture
something and say why as a twice divorced woman, don't

(44:37):
I think I deserve a man who is just nice.
She said, he wants to be around her, he likes
to kiss her he likes to hang out with her,
and she said she never knew what that felt like.
And I felt sad for her, but also happy for
her that she got that. So I want you guys
to speak about that too. Listen, all of us are single.

(45:00):
That stuff I relate to, just like that.

Speaker 2 (45:04):
Relate to in terms of claw Claw.

Speaker 5 (45:08):
Not everyone here. I just said, that's not true.

Speaker 1 (45:12):
I don't know who at the end of the day.
Is that something you took relate to. I thought I
was powerful.

Speaker 4 (45:19):
I think with Cynthia. Cynthia is a unique case, right.

Speaker 3 (45:23):
Cynthia moved to New York City when she was eighteen, okay,
and got thrust right into like the modeling world. She's dated,
you know, men who are very powerful, very rich, and
very complicated, you know what I'm saying, at a very
early age. She was exposed to that sort of dating
environment and that sort of relationship.

Speaker 4 (45:41):
And she's been famous.

Speaker 3 (45:42):
For a long fucking time, and so she's had she
hasn't had the opportunity to kind of like land anywhere,
you know what I'm saying, Especially in relationships they didn't
necessarily pan out.

Speaker 4 (45:54):
So hearing her say that she feels that.

Speaker 3 (45:56):
Shit now that makes me feel so happy for her.
I love her very much much and I'm glad that
she's happy. She deserves all of that shit, and everything
she said on the show was real. We all know
we've been known, but to see her share it with
the world that felt good. And people have to remember,
Cynthia hasn't lived a regular life, you know what I'm saying.
Her life has been unique especial for a long fucking time.

(46:18):
The majority of her adult life, she hasn't had what
we would all consider most people consider to be a
normal dating life. So to hear her have that takeaway
now feels good and it looks good on her.

Speaker 4 (46:29):
She looks very happy.

Speaker 5 (46:30):
I feel I hate that she feels like well not
I can't saund she feels, but it sounds like she
feels like maybe like she didn't deserve it, or like
that she's surprised that anyone wouldn't be lining up to
treat Cynthia Bailey amazing. Cynthia is a very nice person.

Speaker 1 (46:50):
She really is nice, very nice and not to countch
Off Laudia, Cynthia will literally give you her last dollar
the jacket off of her back. Cynthia is top five
of one of the most genuine giving people.

Speaker 2 (47:10):
Like when I say give, like, I've been in.

Speaker 1 (47:12):
Situations with Cynthia where she's like, I'm gonna take care
of this, and I said, Cynthia, I'm a man.

Speaker 2 (47:17):
You're not gonna take care of aiding around me.

Speaker 1 (47:20):
I got you since, but she does it with such love,
So Claudia, I can.

Speaker 5 (47:25):
Agree and like that says a lot about the dating
pool that someone that is as kind, beautiful, successful as
as Cynthia feeling at this age right not to age Shamber,
because I'm right behind her.

Speaker 4 (47:38):
Right.

Speaker 5 (47:38):
Just saying at this age like this, many years have
gone by where you haven't felt the love that you
deserve is insane to me. But I understand. I've been
having a lot of conversations with girlfriends about this, Like
I feel a lot of and I want to go
live and talk about this. Maybe when we finally do
the show Miami, we can talk about this. A lot
of women, a lot of women.

Speaker 1 (47:59):
How much right y'all could never y'all could never make Jordan,
I'm sorry.

Speaker 5 (48:07):
A lot of women feel like almost that they have
to be apologetic of their success, and especially now, this
constant remind is in the media like black women are
doing so much better than black men, and that's probably
causing some kind of a divide, you know, it's making
it us versus them, And a lot of women that
are successful a lot of times get penalized by their
men and they kind of try to humble you in

(48:28):
the relationships. So while you're thinking, isn't this great, I
booked something else and he's like, you know, I didn't
get a callback from my business, or a business is struggling,
and it's like, instead of like writing for each other,
it becomes a competition. And i think in Cynthia's life,
she's probably had a lot of that, especially if you're
a model dating and not saying Leanne was like that.
I'm not saying that about him, but if she dated

(48:48):
it in that world, it's very difficult when you're booking
your guy isn't in business. Like we all had to
publicly see the things that happened with Peter, right, and
I'm sure that had to be difficult for him when
to see in contrast, wifey is flourishing and you're getting
the bad rap, right. That's not an easy position to
be in. So I'm sure she had to downplay a

(49:10):
lot of time, and now she's not downplaying anything. She's comfortable,
she's happy. I talked to her about a couple weeks
ago for like an hour, and we caught up on
all things, and she was just so happy, Like it
seems like very simple and just and fun, and it
sucks that you got to wait this long to get
that and you're often punished for your success.

Speaker 1 (49:29):
And the advice she gave everybody that I know I
always lived by. She says she will never ever ever
have a public relationship. She says she would never post
them on social media. She says she would never do
recarpet with him. She said, I've learned the hard way
and that's not going to happen. And look, she's happy.

(49:51):
She's happy, she's happy, so she's not off. To Cynthia Bailey,
you found love, honey, getting that.

Speaker 5 (49:55):
Back broke by your young en. I love it for you.

Speaker 1 (50:01):
Yes, I want to get into Drew versus Shemiah.

Speaker 2 (50:12):
I'm over this too. I'm listening. I mean, I listen.

Speaker 1 (50:18):
I'm glad it's over. At least I hope it is
a child because again I always ask people, is it
that deep? And I think when it comes to Jewish Shamia.
I think Shamia and Drew, I think they know what
it was and they have to talk about something again.

(50:41):
I think it fell flat.

Speaker 2 (50:42):
Now.

Speaker 1 (50:43):
I don't know what buffet Drew sligh Dora had, but
she ate when she told Samiah, who she referred to
as a lap dog, well, a head dog will holler.

Speaker 2 (50:59):
Ju So the doors having.

Speaker 1 (51:00):
Her best season that she's ever had as her presidence
on the show, Absolutely that was an excellent read and
it was to her face.

Speaker 4 (51:10):
Yeah, it was quick, very quick. I think that. I
don't know. I'll just leave it on the positive.

Speaker 3 (51:17):
Yes, Drew is having the best season she's had in
quite some time, and I'll enjoy on this is episode
what twelve thirteen thirteen thirteen. I am enjoying Drew at
this point of this season.

Speaker 4 (51:29):
I'm enjoying Drusidora on the Real Housewives of Atlanta. I've
never said that. I can say that tonight.

Speaker 5 (51:35):
I like her on this I again, I've been away
from the show for like a decade, but I like
what I'm saying. I like that she says it to
your face. She never comes off mad, like she's not yelling.
She does it with like a calm she doesn't raise
her voice. She's like, oh okay, waits her turn to
get you with the read. I don't like that Shamiyah
and Drew have a thing because I do like them both,

(51:57):
and I would like them to kind of get over this.
I also think maybe Shamia's storyline is also affected by
her husband. I wanted a film as much, but you know,
so she's so, you know, when there's a little bit
of a deficiency, like I'm sure she would love to
be able to show her amazing relationship with a very
wealthy and loving man. And when you don't have that
as you're not able to do as much. Your storyline
does become their interpersonal relationships with amongst the girls. So

(52:18):
you got to have to stretch out an argument with Drew,
and you know what I mean, Like, I think that's
probably the reason why that's still going on. And I
feel like they're trying to make Drew the bad girl,
bad guy of this group. Why, you know, I think
Kelly said everyone has a problem with Drew. I'm like,
do they all have a problem with Drew?

Speaker 3 (52:38):
What's her problem with Drew? Do you guys remember what
Kelly's problem is with Drew? Because that's a real question.
I don't know what it is. I must have missed it.

Speaker 2 (52:45):
No, I think listen and y'all know me. I love Kelly.
I'm a Kelly fan. I think I think Kelly. Kelly
is the host of the trip.

Speaker 1 (53:00):
I think Kelly may have been approach to bring Drew
up and that was her way to find a natural way,
because when I say, it felt flat and it made
no sense, and I think Kelly, being a newbie, was
sort of like I guess but if you look around
the room, Drew does not have a problem with anybody.

Speaker 2 (53:17):
But yeah, I don't Kelly. But yeah, Kelly, Yeah, but
that would.

Speaker 5 (53:31):
But Carlos, like you said, like sometimes you have to
your giving instructions. I don't want to, it's not really
and they're like, well we need it and.

Speaker 1 (53:43):
So or find a way to bring this up so
we can talk about it.

Speaker 4 (53:48):
You I'm sorry, go ahead, let's go ahead, go ahead.

Speaker 2 (53:52):
I'm just gonna say I thought it was funny because
when Kelly brought up like.

Speaker 1 (53:57):
Okay, so let's talk about this, they didn't show who
said it, and maybe I didn't catch it, but somebody said.

Speaker 2 (54:04):
I was about to go left, like yeah, yeah, they.

Speaker 1 (54:08):
They kind of just knew, like we're at a dinner
table off the country, we got to talk about it.

Speaker 2 (54:14):
So that's what That's what I thought of too.

Speaker 3 (54:16):
Do you think brit was prompted when she brought up
Apollo and his wife sure ain't being invited to their event?

Speaker 1 (54:23):
Yes, because I think for them it was sort of
like Fadri's here, let's bring up something to get her
to cook. It fell flat because Fedra, and this is
the thing about this is a thing about producing. You
have to know your audience. And by your audience, I
mean the cast Aedra and Apollo have not been together in.

Speaker 2 (54:49):
I think nine years.

Speaker 1 (54:52):
Aedra doesn't give two fs about what Apollo does as
a married man, and that's why I'm on phaedrus side
when it comes to her saying like he's married to
another woman and has been for a very long time.
I think Britt was, you know, proposition to bring it up.

(55:14):
And I also think too because I also thought too, like,
well it fell flat while wasn't in there.

Speaker 2 (55:19):
And then.

Speaker 1 (55:22):
I wonder you guys agree with this. I think it
was kept in because.

Speaker 2 (55:27):
You forget Britt is.

Speaker 5 (55:28):
There and.

Speaker 1 (55:31):
Listen, I'm being very I'm being very honest, and I
said this last week. I started off this season praising Brit,
I said Britt, I said, I love me some Brett.
Britt seems to be that girl. I am starting to
feel bad for brit because I feel like she's fading

(55:52):
and and it makes me sad because I felt like
brit Edie has so much potential, and it does make
me sad to watch the possibilities of who she could.

Speaker 2 (56:06):
Have become stayed away.

Speaker 1 (56:08):
I believe we have two or three episodes left, guys, and.

Speaker 2 (56:16):
I just I do feel like even last.

Speaker 1 (56:20):
Week, like, look, hey Bread, if you're watching, look you bet.

Speaker 2 (56:27):
This is my advice to you.

Speaker 1 (56:28):
I would celebrate the fact that you're being talked about again,
because there was this dry spell after the incident at
the hairspot, and last week's your event, we did talk
about you. Now, granted it wasn't the greatest thing to
talk about. But one thing pat Tie Labille always said,
when people stop talking about you, that's when you need

(56:51):
to be worried. And my advice to brid is people
aren't talking about you in the way they used to,
and that worries me for her, her and her only
sort of like second win did come last week because
I feel like good press a bad press.

Speaker 2 (57:08):
Get my name right, but I do put bad for bread.

Speaker 4 (57:12):
I do. Brit got done a disservice when.

Speaker 5 (57:15):
Kenya was removed from her storyline.

Speaker 3 (57:17):
Because you had that and Kenya's removed from the cast
ended up overshadowing everything that we know about Brit and
don't know about Brett.

Speaker 4 (57:26):
All we do know about Brit is.

Speaker 3 (57:28):
That she was the young lady who was in conflict
with Kenya Moore and that conflict resulted in Kenya's departure
from the show. That's all we know, and her mama moved.
That's all we know about brit Edie, you know what
I'm saying. And that scandal that all the hoopla, scuttle
but and shit talking that was going on surrounding Kenya's
departure from the show has completely overshadowed britt Edie's presence

(57:51):
on this cast. She's scrambling to connect with these ladies,
and the scenes that we were watching even on the
some of the after show scenes that I've seen where
her and Phaedra and Porsche are filming together, you can
see her trying to connect or find a bridge amongst
the two of them to kind of like fall into
their groove of banter, and unfortunately.

Speaker 4 (58:11):
It just misplaced.

Speaker 3 (58:12):
I think that that story just got way bigger than
what else she had to offer on this cast, and
now we're kind of looking at it with our poems up,
like what's up? You know what I'm saying. I don't
think that was fair to her. This is why Kenya
should have never left the cast, because we could have
seen them duke it out fine, resolve or not watch
everybody pick sides. We should have just really leaned into

(58:34):
it instead of interrupting it abruptly like that because we
all lost out and so.

Speaker 4 (58:39):
The bridge I agree.

Speaker 5 (58:40):
I'm going to first go back to the talk about Phaedra.
I think Faedra and now will get Faser pops right here,
so y'all take note when I say something positive too. Okay,
look look this, Yeah, she's pretty, she's done that. I
really want to hate them, you one of them. Phadria

(59:02):
is too smart to fall for that bait. And I
actually sided too with Fader when they brought up Apollo
either with poor instructions from the producer or that's all
brit had. And she was like, I feel myself fading
in this scene, let me say something to get the
cameras back on me. That's what it gave. But us
knowing how reality works, it probably was some direction like, hey,

(59:22):
we're not hearing from you, say something about port Faedra
and Fader again. Way too seasoned, I will say, way
too smart to fall for that. She's not gonna get
into an apollo thing that was many relationships ago, like
he's married, she's then moved on with you know, other
people and all that and so so uh, you know,
that was never gonna really fly. So it definitely whoever

(59:44):
gave her that direction, I kind of feel like they
set Brit up for a little bit of failure in
that moment. I also feel overall in this show that
Britt is really in over her head. Maybe she thought
that she would come play with the girls, you know,
rent a little ormez purse, go to a dealership and
show herself buying cars and that would be enough to
portray this wealthy lifestyle and that would be enough. But

(01:00:06):
really it's really not. You can't fake it. Like the
fans of reality and the commentators are too smart and
we clock too much. We've seen it all We've seen
people fake storylines, and the fans can smell a fake
like a fake existence a mile away. So you're better
off going in saying I'm trying to get there and
I'm not. I'm I'm trying to get my line up
the ground. But she wanted to come in like already,

(01:00:29):
so big time established. I'm which I got all this
going on. Well, guess what the internet salutes are gonna
do that thing. They're gonna look it up, They're gonna
find lawsuits, they're gonna find that your business isn't really successful.
They do it to everyone like you got to know that,
and I do. I know, I do read her down,
but I do think they did not do her a
favor of putting her on the show as a housewife
out the gate. I think she should have been a
friend first, get her feet wet, see how things goes.

(01:00:51):
Because oh, I also will say this. I know I'm
getting long winded and I don't want to be that.
It's very apparent from her times on this show that
Britt doesn't really have any female friends. She's not a
girl's girl, because she does feel like she kind of
she thinks the way to get a moment is to
just be mean to another girl, like even when she
was talking to Angela, your husband doesn't even now let
that Jarrett his wife, And it was so it was

(01:01:13):
so much anger in her face. I'm like, why are
you so happy to tell a woman that her husband
doesn't claim her and you're a married woman where people
say you're in a lave at her marriage now saying
she is, but there's things about her like it doesn't
seem much she knows valid girl code at all.

Speaker 4 (01:01:28):
And this is what I mean.

Speaker 3 (01:01:30):
You're making a great point, Claudia, because this is exactly
what I be talking about when I say that people
can not be conflict centered on these shows and expect
to be successful on an ensemble cast. It's got to
be more than that, you know what I'm saying, Like,
you can't just come out of left field with these
very serious allegations, very dark, taking the show into a

(01:01:52):
very dark fucking place, like unnecessarily.

Speaker 4 (01:01:55):
It just does not add up, It doesn't make sense.

Speaker 3 (01:01:58):
And that's what happens every time she finds herself in conflict.
We saw brit do that with Kenya whenever at that
Bangball dinner, we saw her do it with Angela at
the Bailey cue for Juneteenth. We saw do it with
Angela at the Peace brunch that they had. We're seeing
her do it now, you know it just it's got
to be more than just that. But before I saw

(01:02:18):
brit on the show, when she was announced as cast,
I was immediately drawn into her look. I thought she
had a sharp, edgy, you know, personal style that I
thought would translate really well onto camera on screen. And
I thought that she was much more confident than the
way I'm seeing her show up in these scenes on camera.
It almost looks like she's fearful of being disliked in

(01:02:43):
the aftermath or in the wake of what happened with
Kenya's departure. So she's walking on eggshells with these ladies
and not really. I don't know what the deal is,
but there's a disconnect there, And I just wish that
she was a little bit more confident and a little
bit more transparent on this cast because aesthetically.

Speaker 5 (01:02:59):
And when we when Kelly said that Drew had beef
with everybody, really it's really Britt that has had beef
with everybody there. If you think about it, She's yelled
at Angela she's mad at like she's the one. That's
why I've been popping off with everyone, and I think
she thinks that's the way to be relevant, Like let
me argue with people so I can be ready. You know,
I can get to read and be on the blogs

(01:03:19):
for that week. But that's fine. We do need a
good read on these shows. But it has to be
rooted in, like the stake's got to be there, like
the stakes like a friend that you have to kind
of get together. We care about that, but not you
just come in hot. That's why I don't like what
Fat is doing now, coming in hot against people you
don't even know yet and you haven't had one scene yet.
It doesn't make sense. And that's what britsmane doing her

(01:03:39):
entire time on Housewives.

Speaker 2 (01:03:40):
I think, yeah, yeah, yeah, no, I listen. I agree,
And we have again two or three more.

Speaker 1 (01:03:50):
Episodes left when it comes to this season, and look,
I'm just happy that we get to like in with
the storyline that I felt dragged a little bit too long,
and I think the girls probably felt the same way too.

Speaker 2 (01:04:05):
In hindsight, right in hindsight, looking on it, like.

Speaker 1 (01:04:09):
Okay, I forgot I brought this up again for a
whole nother week.

Speaker 2 (01:04:13):
So I am looking forward to the reunion. I think
it's gonna be a very fun, shady one. Andy did
tweet he wanted people people.

Speaker 1 (01:04:24):
To submit questions, which means it is happening very soon.
A lot of people are saying allegedly it is happening
this week. But I will say I'm looking forward to this.

Speaker 5 (01:04:35):
Is gonna be just like more of the mean shit,
like mean when it's warranted, right when someone did something
really horrible to you, they'd be a reason to be
mean back, but not just coming in and just talking shit.
And I will say this, and I think I saw
comment about this. Honestly, I feel like Cynthia deserves a
peach on this season way more than Phaedra. Cynthia was
the glue. Cynthia was great in getting people to talk

(01:04:56):
and open up. She had a great moment with py Hey,
you guys, mark this another moment. I'm anna say something
nice about Porsche. There was a great scene with Cynthia
and Porsche where they were talking and I feel they
felt like Cynthia really got through to her, and it
really to me, knowing what I know from what I
you know when I used to talk to Cynthia about
this all the time, how far they've come from when
they had an actual physical altercation showing real growth between

(01:05:18):
Porsche and Cynthia. Again, hey saying something positive. I thought
that was beautiful, right, And so I feel like Cynthia
has definitely earned it more than a Phaedra and at
this point even brit because Cynthia has been the glue
and been a voice or reason and has you know,
provided I think more than two of the others.

Speaker 3 (01:05:40):
Yeah, Cynthia did her damn thing this season, for real.
She was an incredible friend of the show. Peachworthy for sure.

Speaker 4 (01:05:46):
Yep, yeah, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:05:47):
And again, I I'll end by saying this, if you
are a former housewife, especially if you are an OG,
and I'm sorry, guys, OG means you have to have
started see than one.

Speaker 2 (01:06:01):
You're not a You could be a legacy. You could
be what you're not, a VET thank you.

Speaker 1 (01:06:06):
Legacy or a vet OG's meet season one, So stop
over using OG, ohky digress. If you are an OG
housewife and your acts back to appear on the show,
my advice to you is follow the Cynthia Billy blueprint
and be a friend be a friend's And the reason

(01:06:28):
why I will say more to the ogs because when
they started Housewives season one, it was a very different time.
It was a very different time, and those girls gave
everything that they could to the show, and I think rightfully,
so rightfully, so they just don't they're not in that

(01:06:48):
same hit space to give to give the same amount
and and and do you think there.

Speaker 5 (01:06:52):
A lot of the I'm sorry to cut you off.
Do you think some of that comes from like back
when it first started, right, blogs and commentary wasn't as
big as it is now. So now people are editing
what they would do now normally with well, on the blogs,
they ready for this, so let me adjust as before
they just lived their life and they were more authentic.

Speaker 1 (01:07:13):
Yeah yeah, look, well about the percent. I said this
at nauseum and I'm never going to change this. Social
media killed the reality star.

Speaker 2 (01:07:26):
And when I say that, it's gone.

Speaker 1 (01:07:32):
Are the days of a reality star coming on the show,
not already having glam set their looks, not already meeting
with hiring a publicist.

Speaker 2 (01:07:45):
I met somebody. I'm not gonna say who, so don't
ask me messy rain drops.

Speaker 1 (01:07:49):
I met somebody before the show started and they said
to me, I'm the publicist of so and so, not.

Speaker 5 (01:07:54):
A publicist before you even get on air.

Speaker 6 (01:07:57):
I I'm not gonna say what show was called, darnge.

Speaker 5 (01:08:10):
I want to know who it is, and am a journalist.
It's my job to try to.

Speaker 1 (01:08:13):
Get to.

Speaker 2 (01:08:16):
I'm not gonna say who. But I remember saying.

Speaker 1 (01:08:21):
Take advantage against when you spend money you don't really have. No,
I'm not gonna but I'm not gonna say don't spend
money that you don't have. But if you do, got
the money, girl, do what you want to do, child, right,
I'm gonna answer you second camera. So the thing is
this take advantage of the network publicist, who whose job

(01:08:45):
that the network is paying them to publicize you? So
social media because a lot of these girls come in
wanting to be this person of feeling like I know
the audience wants this and and I and and it
makes me sad. It's the reason why I really don't
watch as much reality TV as I used to, because

(01:09:08):
I can spot a fake. It's hard for me to
watch these shows with these new girls. Not I'm talking
about Lanta, I'm talking about just the general population of
reality television. These new girls come in, they study the format,
and you should always study any job you have, but
study the fact that they were themselves. Don't come in

(01:09:28):
trying to be this person. Don't come in trying to
be that person. And once the show airs, they cater
to the social.

Speaker 2 (01:09:36):
Media fans who love them.

Speaker 1 (01:09:39):
And it's great to have fans, but also no, you
can't live or die by the fans because they'll love
you one episode.

Speaker 2 (01:09:46):
We see it with Shemiah.

Speaker 1 (01:09:48):
A lot of people love Shamia the first couple of weeks,
and now people are saying Samiah, bye girl, and that's just.

Speaker 2 (01:09:59):
You are so.

Speaker 6 (01:10:02):
Person.

Speaker 4 (01:10:05):
No, I think it was look Carlos, but it would
have been her.

Speaker 5 (01:10:13):
Hey, Rangels, who do you think it was?

Speaker 1 (01:10:15):
I do think it was I have done anyway. But Claudia
is fucking hilarious. Okay, answer this question, Carlos, you our producer.
If Kenya was under reunion, what would you think? Claudia
doesn't answer this too, Okay, I'll start first. I strongly

(01:10:38):
feel that kenya story has yet to be told fully,
and as a vet that she is, I would love
to see her and Brent have a conversation.

Speaker 3 (01:10:53):
Yeah, Kenya needs to be on that reunion. That is
a huge opportunity to hope Bravo and the powers that
be take advantage of without a doubt, without questioning, ken
you should be on that reunion. We want to see
what she has to say. We want to see her
and brit talk about that shit. We want to see
her talk about it with the cast. There's no way

(01:11:15):
that she should not be at this reunion in my opinion,
and they should not tease it. They shouldn't even put
it in the trailer for that motherfucker. Just let her
walk out in part whatever of the reunion and let.

Speaker 4 (01:11:27):
Them ladies do what they do.

Speaker 3 (01:11:29):
She ken If y'all are listening, Kenya Moore needs to
come onto their reunion stage at some point, and I
really hope it's not too much.

Speaker 5 (01:11:37):
I don't think she will not because then I think
they won't ask her because of maybe legalities. But I
think I agree with both of you. I think it
would actually offer us a great segue and opportunity to
get her back on form next season. And for the
people that say, oh, the ratings, the ratings are not
what they used to be and they're slipping and Phaji
when she came back to not return to bring the

(01:11:58):
ratings they thought listen are different now it's a different
time with video on demand, right, But there is no
there is a no, there's no way in the world
that Kenya coming back to the union. Letty, let Kenya
and Britt now touch each other, but have it out
and resolve it in front of us. Have a moment
of like like Black Girl magic where they hug it

(01:12:19):
out and guess what it's set up for next year
and then we can see what is going to be.
Can you imagine like it would actually gives Britt a
chance to be an actual housewife and have a story.

Speaker 2 (01:12:28):
All right, that's a Claudia think I so much?

Speaker 4 (01:12:29):
Dustin, thank you?

Speaker 2 (01:12:31):
Where can they see Justin on tour? Right?

Speaker 3 (01:12:36):
You can see me on tour? Look at Dustin is
my name on all social media platforms.

Speaker 4 (01:12:40):
All the information is there.

Speaker 3 (01:12:43):
You can go to Dustin Rosslive dot com and get tickets.
I'll see y'all in La June twelfth, and see in Chicago,
see you in Philly, see you in Houston, see in Dallas,
see in DC, see in Atlanta. And we're on our way,
So pull up on us, y'all.

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Speaker 4 (01:13:40):
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Speaker 3 (01:13:41):
We hung out in New York and had a motherfucking blast.
That is my boy, and I'm so happy to see
him doing his thing with this trial. I love to
see him.

Speaker 2 (01:13:49):
Yeah, he's doing good. He's doing good. All right, We'll
see y'all next Monday.

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