RHOA Recap: From BFFs to WTFs?!

Hey Reigndrops! It’s Tuesday, and your faves — Carlos, Dustin, and Claudia — are back with a fresh #RHOA recap! Angela Oakley is stepping into her role as the new bone collector, Ralph has dinner with a few peaches, and we have to ask: is this the beginning of the end for Porsha and Shamea’s friendship? The crew dives deep into the shifting power dynamics at play, and Carlos breaks down why this just might be his favorite episode of the season so far.

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Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:01):
Welcome to Reality the King. It's me Carlos Kings, the
King of Reality TV and one of the most sought
after executive producers in reality television with over ten years
a production experience. Twice a week on Reality with the King,
we'll sit down with my friends across the entertainment industry,
recap our favorite reality shows and revisit unforgettable moments that

(00:25):
we are still talking and tweeting about.

Speaker 2 (00:30):
Rain droves.

Speaker 1 (00:31):
We are here to talk about the most recent episode,
episode ten.

Speaker 2 (00:35):
I believe yes, episode ten.

Speaker 1 (00:38):
It was called Meditation and Mediation I believe was the
episode title of the latest episode of the Real Housewives
of Atlanta. Before we get started with our recap and
diving into the conversation, I will say this, this was
my favorite episode of the season. I love this episode

(01:00):
and the reason why I love this episode is because
every scene.

Speaker 2 (01:08):
Mattered.

Speaker 1 (01:09):
When I say mattered. It was nice to see Kelly
with her girls. It was nice to see Angela in
her investments properties and really speak about being in depth
two million dollars in depth based on her investments.

Speaker 2 (01:25):
Like that honesty.

Speaker 1 (01:28):
I appreciate it, and obviously we get into the other conversations.
But in terms of this episode. It was my favorite
for those reasons. But I want to start off by
talking about let's just get into it. It's the scene
that sort of kicked off this episode, which was.

Speaker 2 (01:50):
Because I, you know, being told.

Speaker 1 (01:53):
That my facial expressions give a lot away and I am.

Speaker 2 (01:56):
Going to have all my shade glasses so that.

Speaker 3 (02:00):
You need a layer. You need a layer, right bro?

Speaker 2 (02:04):
Because of it? Okay fall weather gap, Okay, Look.

Speaker 1 (02:10):
Shamia met with Ralph ralph Is Dreu Sidoras, a strange
husband who lives in the basement. They are going through divorce.
On top of that, Porsche also walked in. And I'm
being very honest when I say this, it was hard
to watch that scene.

Speaker 2 (02:32):
From from a It was hard to watch it because
it just didn't feel good. It didn't feel good. I'm
just being I'm being I'm being very honest, and it
didn't feel good to watch it because.

Speaker 1 (02:47):
One thing I've learned producing The Real Hospitals of Atlanta
season six, and this is this is coming from an
openly gay man who has never been married. But one
thing that I've learned from season six and obviously later
in life creating Lemon Marriage franchise is the sanctity of marriage,

(03:07):
and how when it comes to married couples there is
this sort of rule you have when you.

Speaker 2 (03:12):
Are interfacing with someone's wife or husband.

Speaker 1 (03:15):
And the reason why I brought up season six is
because that was the season where Pedra and Kenya have
this big beef about Kenya texting Apollo. Now, to Apollo's credit,
years later on my podcast Thank You very Much, he
admitted that he lied that Kenya wanted him. He admitted
he lied right, So Kenya's been vindicated now when it

(03:40):
comes to Kenya texting him regardless, and Kenya admit it
on camera she was wrong for texting him in hindsight
and she texted him thank you, thank you, babe. I
think it was I learned through that season how you
just can't on camera, on camera be seen with someone's

(04:00):
And I remember us going to Mexico and Phedra told
Kenya she wanted to slap was it the dog pits
out of her mouth or something, Dustin or Claudia, because
because in Mexico, her and Candy walked in and she
saw King get Apollo talking.

Speaker 3 (04:22):
Oh yeah, I remember that.

Speaker 2 (04:23):
I remember that, and I was I was there for that.

Speaker 1 (04:26):
So to watch that scene in this recent episode. It
was hard for me to watch because of the history
of it and on top of the fact that, let's
have a real conversation. We know that Porscha is not
happy with Drew based on Drew filming with.

Speaker 2 (04:42):
Dennis, so it was hard to watch. It was hard
to watch, but we'll love to get your thoughts on it.

Speaker 4 (04:47):
Shame on Smiya and Porsta and I actually liked Samiyah.
I do then playing our faces like they met up
and oh, Porsia happened to stop by. No, y'all are
best friends. Y'all ca calculated that, y'all set that up.
We're gonna go film a scene with with with Ralph
to pay back Drew. I will say this, The difference

(05:07):
between the two groups is when Drew and Dennis are filming,
we see them in a music and working capacity for
the most part, right, Like, I ain't seen them trashing.
They're not dragging Porsche. I've not seen that. I've not
seen that. But the entire lunch with Shamiah, Porsche and
Ralph was dragging Drew, So you can't be I think

(05:30):
Porscha would have been better served if she never did
this and then you know, she could stand on business
about I really stand on the fact that I don't
want you filming with my my ex. I think it's
wrong because to then go and film with someone who
a strange current, a strange husband. You know, you just
canceled out your complaint. Actually you made yourself look worse.
And I think she should she could have done without

(05:51):
that scene. I think she did herself no favors in
that scene. It was messy, it was mean, and it
was like playing in our face, like, oh, I didn't know,
and you know, I just felt like they set that
up for paypack and let's just call it what it is,
you know, Like and Ralph, I'm gonna speak to you, Ralph,
Dennis isn't letting Drew talk. She's not talking greasy about

(06:14):
Porsche to Dennis. That's not happening, right. But with Ralph,
that is the mother of the kids. You may not
like her anymore, love be in love with her anymore,
with Drew anymore, but that is still the mother of
your kids. And you're meeting up with basically her ops
at this point, and you're allowing the shit talking about
the mother of your kids. And I think that was
real raggedy Ralph. I think that was whack and I

(06:37):
felt I too, was like this, this doesn't feel good.
It did not feel good to me.

Speaker 5 (06:42):
Yeah, I think what did not feel good about the
scene was the dishonesty about the intention of it.

Speaker 3 (06:48):
Right for me, it ain't that deep.

Speaker 5 (06:50):
Porscha, you mad at Drew because she filmed with Dennis,
so you fielm with Ralph to get her back full stop.
It was that simple, right, I think that? And okay,
you know Shemiah said that she was meeting up with
Ralph to discuss his podcast or something or whatever he
had coming up.

Speaker 1 (07:07):
Yeah, his podcast Kings and Queen's Corps. I believe something
along those lines.

Speaker 5 (07:10):
I wish him much success as a person who has
been podcasting for over ten years. I won an NAACP
Image Award for podcasting and not in the shit talking category.
I wanted in best News and Information category, so as
a legitimate voice in the podcasting space. They didn't discuss
anything about producing a podcast at that table, and I
think that that is the part that fellas lit the

(07:32):
flat with the viewers. Also, Shemiah setting that up so
that Porscha could come film with Ralph. You know, it
doesn't help with the allegations that she is incessantly appearing
in a supportive role or supportive capacity in her friendship
with Porsche. That's why people say that shit, because you

(07:52):
do things like allow her, at least in our view,
to go unscathed with being disrespectful about your song to
Shamiah about her song, and just not being what most
people consider a good friend to be. But then Samiah
eagerly stepped right into the mess and set up a
dinner with Ralph and film with him. Porscha was in

(08:14):
at that dinner table, moving Ralph's fingers, and you know,
it was different things that she was doing to directly
antagonize Drew. And I ain't mad about it, because if
that's where they're at in their relationship, so be it.
But just say that shit. It would have been so
much better to see portion in her confessionals, like her
ass was feeling with my baby daddy, I'm finna go
film with Ralph.

Speaker 3 (08:33):
We're going to dinner.

Speaker 5 (08:34):
And then she sat down and her and Shamiah ordered
all that food and them drinks and they laugh.

Speaker 3 (08:38):
Just stand in it. We all know what it was like.

Speaker 5 (08:41):
Just stand in it. That's where I was at with
it and Ralph. Since we're speaking about Ralph, Ralph, think
about sometimes you have to zoom on and look at
the big picture. Ralph is on this show in a
subordinate capacity. He's Drew's estranged husband. His only experience getting
to the attention at the cameras from the Real Housewives
of Atlanta and Bravo bring to people is it he

(09:03):
is presented or appearing in some capacity connected to Drew.
Right now, they ain't fucking with each other. He's in
the basement, she's upstairs. The only chance he gets to
talk about anything on camera is if he's talking about her.
What better position as an opt than to link up
with her other opts and do it on camera. My
thing is just stand in it and say it. Y'all
not meeting to discuss no damn podcasts, y'all mean up

(09:25):
because all of y'all, including Samia, you know what I'm saying,
they really don't fuck with Drew like that, And so
my thing is just say it.

Speaker 3 (09:32):
That's it.

Speaker 2 (09:34):
I have to agree with you, and you hit the
nail on the head.

Speaker 1 (09:38):
I think if on the onslaught right, if if Shami
and Porscha devised this scheme and had a very girlfriend moment,
you know what I'm saying, like and would have been
silly with it, like let's dress up as like private
investigators wearing all black with our glasses on.

Speaker 4 (09:56):
You know what I mean.

Speaker 1 (09:57):
I think if the to your point that, if the
intention of the scene was pay back to the bitch,
call me karma, I think we all would be like,
oh my, y'all being petty. If this is Housewives, let's
be petty. I actually agree with you. I think if
it was made, I think if it was colored to
be seen as on the nose, it is what it

(10:20):
is you feel in my mom you know, I think
we all would have been like I then go ahead.

Speaker 2 (10:27):
I actually agree with you with that, because to talk
about I'll be to laugh.

Speaker 1 (10:36):
But to have wrapped, as Shamilla say, we're meeting about
a podcast because Samia appeared on one episode of a podcast,
I think it was insulting the intelligence of the audience.
And if it was what we just said it was,

(10:59):
I think they would have been more forgiveness.

Speaker 4 (11:01):
Yeah, that was corny. That was corny, and there was
I didn't see that one moment of magic between Shemiah
and Ralph that would make me want to tune into
a podcast with them. I'm sorry.

Speaker 5 (11:14):
I like Shmia's speaking voice. I want to hear more
of it. I think she has one of the most
beautiful speaking voices, and she can sing her ass off.

Speaker 2 (11:20):
She does.

Speaker 5 (11:21):
She doesn't sound like Drew, who can sing too, but
they have distinctly different voices.

Speaker 4 (11:25):
Porsche, she she doesn't and I like and I do
like her for the most part, but I don't like
the way she's been moving the last two episodes. I
think she I guess we gave her so much credit
for being so much more like above this, you know,
being the wife, being stable, being a very much a
support system for Porsche throughout all the years, being actually wealthy,

(11:46):
actually having the things, not having to rent the clothes
and all that kind of stuff. She has the things,
like everything that that should have set her up to
be a good housewife. But it didn't take very long
for her to get put back in this box. And
I'm sure it was frustrating for Shemiah to get this
lapdog label. Nobody wants that label. But you're not helping
yourself when I guess we all want like we're rooting

(12:09):
for you, Shamia, like you know, like the Tyra Banks clip,
we were rooting for you. We were all rooting for you.
Like I think it would have made her look so
dope and so powerful to still be a friend to Porsche,
but to hold her accountable and say, hey, friend, if
we're gonna do it, like y'all said, be intentional, make
it a thing, be funny with it. But to play
in our faces and be like I think Porsche said

(12:30):
something like, oh, Shamia was meeting with him, and I
was came by girl, girl, by go play with your mom,
but don't play with us, because we're not stupid. And
it's very obvious, like if me and my friend were
going to do a scene, we would text each other
what we're gonna do, and like, okay, you go first,
and now pop up and act like I just came
to meet you for drinks. We're not dumb. This is
season sixteen. We've seen shenanigans before, and I think that

(12:52):
was really why. And I really think the worst person
in that scene was Ralph dropping tea about his wife
messing with time allegedly, and then he lied by the
way about him filing for divorce. Because if you go
look up the divorce papers, guess who's label listen as
the petitioner exactly, So guess who the what petitioner means,

(13:17):
ladies and gentlemen. Petitioner is the one who instigates the divorce.
The respondent is the one who responds. So you said
that you filed first, Ralph.

Speaker 5 (13:28):
So the day that that happened, there was a joke
online about them racing to the courthouse to file first,
and everybody remembers Drew getting there first. So I was
kind of confused by him saying that as well in
that scene because we're fans of this show. That was
news directly related to what's going on with the show,
and we remember that.

Speaker 1 (13:45):
So I was like, damn, Like Claudia a journalist, Okay,
so the think's Claudia, call me b Arthur.

Speaker 2 (13:54):
Okay, wait where are these?

Speaker 4 (13:56):
How many you have got wardrobe dreams?

Speaker 5 (14:00):
He got that drawer glasses like Sanford and Son, remember
Rial Fox. You soafing that drawer with all them glasses
in it.

Speaker 3 (14:05):
That's it.

Speaker 2 (14:06):
I love a faith prop Okay.

Speaker 1 (14:09):
So, Claudia, apparently you have done your research, So do
you know what time Drew filed first, do you have
that the document's handy.

Speaker 4 (14:21):
I don't have the time, but I also have some
more tea because I actually called Drew before we went
on the air, That's why I was late getting it together.
And I said, Drew, tell me what's good, Like, did
you mess with Dennis? What's up with this whole Dennis piece?
And she said no, And I asked Dennis to clear
this up. She said, remember when Ralph said that Dennis
gave he gave Dennis his blessing to work, right, she said,

(14:45):
the actual text and the reason why Porte didn't actually
show the real tax she just kind of was reading
it you don't see it was because it actually said
I'm not trying to fuck Drew. I'm trying to get
the money. But Porscha read it out of context to
make it seem like, nah, like I'm turning her down
for sex. Nah, I'm just trying to get to the money.

(15:07):
That's the truth. Said. She has screenshots of it, and
we were on she was trying to, you know, show
me on FaceTime. So maybe that comes up at the reunion,
maybe that comes up in your interview tomorrow. I'm sorry
I bought you to her. I'm sorry. Whenever that happens,
I need you to ask her for this look at

(15:28):
her and Porsche. But she told me that that's what
the actual text was, not a half asseds mischaracterization of
what was said. So that's what a liar does though, Okay,
and that's been very effective on lots of reality shows
throughout the years. What people will do is take ten

(15:48):
to fifteen, twenty percent of the truth, even fifty percent
of the truth, and we'll have part of a text,
but if you read it out of context, it can
mean anything. I need to see the entire conversation, and
that's how you know who's really full of shit?

Speaker 5 (16:02):
Well, why she says she ain't never kissed the girl?
And then who said she kissed the girl on the
show too?

Speaker 4 (16:08):
What she probably did like about that?

Speaker 5 (16:10):
Yeah, you know, Bravo, it's good for right running at
the beautiful bee footage. You know what I'm saying. They
roll right to it every time. Yeah, I've kissed the girl,
I've never kissed the girl, and we'd be like Drew
right because I love her on this show. But it
just gets the waters get a little murky when it
comes to accuracy and honesty over there, that's all right, No.

Speaker 4 (16:32):
Ready to be out it and we have we respecially
our gay brother. Maybe she wasn't ready to be out
it as a you know, as the l you know.

Speaker 5 (16:40):
What I'm saying, which we don't know if she's is
or not. You know what I'm saying, We don't know that.

Speaker 2 (16:45):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (16:45):
I do want to touch on that briefly too, because listen,
we're not here to out anybody.

Speaker 2 (16:51):
That's that's that's and I don't.

Speaker 4 (16:53):
Think she's a lost I'm not calling her lesbian.

Speaker 1 (16:54):
Oh no, no no no no no no no no, no, no,
no no.

Speaker 2 (16:57):
I want to talk about the comment that I would saying, no, no,
not for you, Claudia.

Speaker 1 (17:01):
I was saying that based on what was aired and
what Raph said. You know, watching Ralph in that scene,
it's evident that he doesn't like Drew anymore, you know
what I mean?

Speaker 2 (17:17):
And and it was that I again.

Speaker 1 (17:21):
There, there's there's several reasons why that scene was hard
to watch. Raps disdain for his wife, and it's evident
that he just does not like her.

Speaker 2 (17:32):
Now, look, I don't know who who who Drew is
at home?

Speaker 1 (17:37):
Right, I don't know who she is as a wife
or mother. Obviously, Raph knows more about his current wife
they're still.

Speaker 2 (17:43):
Married legally than we all do. But I think for me.

Speaker 1 (17:48):
It was it was hard to watch him mention that, yeah,
I divorced her because she allegedly was with top right,
who is Mimi Fausis X who is currently on Basketball.

Speaker 2 (18:05):
Wives as Minglee's girlfriend or a strange friend?

Speaker 4 (18:10):
And please look on Tie's opportunistic ass, okay, trying to
go from reality show to reality show to just be
in scenes with different people on different shows. And Ty,
I don't care if you get mad about me saying this,
because I already said it before, and I'm saying it
with my whole chest. Just tall to me and you
got muscles, but we ain't gonna be at the same parties.

(18:30):
I'm just saying, you are going from different reality shows
to be with different people, and I would be a
little bit side on in that situation right there as well.
So I'm sorry, Carlos, but I have strong feelings about that.
I told me me about Tie the moment I first
met her, I didn't have a good feeling about her,
and I just think she's very opportunistic, like every girlfriend
and man everybody you mess with is like on TV.

(18:51):
Really okay, sorry, and I digress, so allegedly Drew now
ming Lee, who else? Who else? Maybe that's three in
like how many years now? If I was with three
basketball players, y'all call me the biggest hole. Y'all do
call me the biggest hole? And I had sections damn
not in twenty twenty five. And okay, keep the same energy,

(19:14):
that's all I'm saying. Opportunistic time, freaky time, shoot and
shot at the basket and at.

Speaker 2 (19:20):
The so Claudia, Uh, I was wing.

Speaker 3 (19:28):
Claudia is best friends with MEMI. Man, that's how she feels.
How she feels dust. I'll just listen.

Speaker 5 (19:35):
This is that's women ship. I ain't got nothing to
do with that. That's women ship. I'm staying completely out
of that.

Speaker 3 (19:40):
Bro. You already know.

Speaker 4 (19:42):
They said Claudia might have to ask brit for her
pistols so she don't get me basketball?

Speaker 2 (19:48):
Y'all are we we want we involving that? So look, Hi,
I wanted to break this up. Uh Claudia spit fire
during receipts. Maybe you are well.

Speaker 1 (20:04):
I I really am intrigued. When they flashed back to
Drew saying wow. Okay, so Ralph says, sorry, guys, have
a scatter bread. Claudia just took me to a whole
another world and I'm in Pluto with Gail King and

(20:25):
I need to get back down on Earth.

Speaker 4 (20:28):
That that was a scamming the line they did not.

Speaker 1 (20:31):
Send the spaceship. Okay, okay, I'm back on Earth. Thank you,
Gail King and Katy Perry. All right, look, okay, I'm back.
So when Ralph intimated that he filed for divorce because
Drew was allegedly messing with Tie, they did flash back
to a scene of Drew saying in the middle of

(20:55):
a sentence, because you know, I want to make sure
I give all the contexts in the middle of the sentence,
since Drew does say she was there for me.

Speaker 2 (21:02):
When I needed her.

Speaker 1 (21:04):
Along those lines, it did appear that it could have
been more than friends, or it could have been taken
out a context that we didn't see the entire scene.

Speaker 2 (21:13):
So when you.

Speaker 1 (21:14):
Guys did see that, did y'all take that as confirmation
or not?

Speaker 3 (21:16):
One hundred percent?

Speaker 5 (21:18):
That confirmation I didn't even need in my From my perspective,
I felt like they had a relationship that was more
than Platonic I did you, and it's no secret she
changed the subject every time they talked about it. In
the season fifteen reunion, when Drew sang on stage and
Ralph came out and he said, first chair at the
reunion they were they talked about it, Drew changed the subject.

(21:41):
Candy spoke as plainly as she could about what she
knew about it. It was what it was, you know,
And Drew has been adamant about the fact that she,
you know, has not had that sort of relationship with
a woman. The facts and shit we see appears to
present otherwise whatever. Chara even said that, remember when Chari

(22:01):
at that reunion season fifteen, she said somebody had dropped
off some copies of messages to the chateau.

Speaker 3 (22:07):
And the message.

Speaker 5 (22:08):
They passed the messages around at the reunion and read them,
and I will never forget Candy and Kenya were looking
at the damn the message and Kenya was like, oh oh,
and Candy was like, do we be texting like that?
Do I send you stuff like that? So everybody felt
that way. Ralph came on and said that, like Claudia
has made a great point earlier, maybe Drew's not ready

(22:31):
to talk about that part yet. But it would read
better to the audience if she would say that as
opposed to know I didn't or no, I'm not, just
say I don't want to talk about it right now,
like Kyle Richard's be saying, they threatened, They asked Kyle
all the time. You know what I'm saying, what's up
with you in Morgan you guys fucking around or whatever?

Speaker 3 (22:50):
And she never says no.

Speaker 5 (22:51):
She never says slides for years, slide, two years, now, slide.

Speaker 2 (22:57):
Let's have a real conversation.

Speaker 1 (22:58):
I love Kyle Richards, baby, but let's clock it.

Speaker 5 (23:02):
So that's what it is. But that's also the difference.
You get what I'm saying, That's the difference. Drew says, No,
Kyle just says when I'm ready, not right now.

Speaker 1 (23:12):
I'm not.

Speaker 4 (23:13):
Obviously I'm not in the community. I'm in no community
right But when people have talked to me and educating
me about it, about outing people and all that kind
of stuff, like I've been told, not scolded, but told like, yo,
you leave that alone. Like if someone's not ready to
say whatever, you leave it alone. And I just kind
of feel like, do we need to be mindful and

(23:34):
I'm not saying I mean, I never seen that scene
with Drew talking about Ty before. You know, I've heard
my things that I've heard as well, but I never
saw that. So I was never gonna say anything about
it until I saw that scene because to me, that
scene confirmed it. Ye that she set it on camera.
So if she said it on camera, that's something that
she's okay with us knowing. Right, But like, I just

(23:55):
feel like, is there a different set of standards when
it's a girl, Like, is it like we are we
being extra hard on her because it's a woman.

Speaker 5 (24:05):
Oh No, it's the opposite. It's the polar opposite. She
can go ahead. She's married to a man. People perceive
her as a heterosexual woman to the world. That's why
there's so much scuttle but and conversation around her alleged
bisexual tryst with Tie and whoever else she may have
been involved with. Right, But she can go on from

(24:26):
that live a very happy life with a man in
a relationship.

Speaker 3 (24:29):
We see it replicated time and time again.

Speaker 5 (24:32):
If a man, however, admitted to having some sort of
sexual experience with another man is forever he's got the
scarlet letter for the rest of his life, so it's
actually it's the opposite.

Speaker 4 (24:44):
No, No, I agree what you're saying with that part. Sure,
one thousand percent. Once a man, I mean, you know,
I definitely work with people that are definitely never been
comfortable with that. I get it. I mean as far
as it's like forcing her to admit it, forcing her
to admit it, like, no, you need.

Speaker 2 (25:00):
You mean in the constructs of reality television.

Speaker 4 (25:04):
Yeah, and you need to say. I totally agree with
what you're saying. Doesn't about when a man admits to that,
he's he has a scarlet letter for the rest of
his life. And there's a lot of women I will
never date a guy that's my set. I get all that.
But I'm saying, as far as like really being pressed
to admit it, we want you to tell us and
admit it on television in this reality show. Do you think,
like as I hear a lot of people talking about

(25:25):
this with this.

Speaker 2 (25:26):
Scandal, No, And I'll say this to you.

Speaker 1 (25:30):
Dothin did a very good point of explaining the juxtaposition
between Kyle Richards and what is being said about Drew
right now.

Speaker 2 (25:40):
In Drew's defense. In Drew's big defense.

Speaker 1 (25:43):
We have not seen Drew and Tie photograph together hanging
out backstage at ties w A. You know what I mean, Like,
like Kyle and Morgan have been seen together in very
intimate saties and let's have a real conversation here. Kyle
did a music video with Morgan where they simulated kissing

(26:05):
and were this closed and never touching lips.

Speaker 2 (26:07):
So in Drew's defense, that wasn't the case.

Speaker 1 (26:10):
And I think that's the difference, Claudia, as as you
asked a really good question. The reason why we have
the audience is like, Kyle, if you are lesbian, that
is your choice, but you're gonna stop playing our face.

Speaker 4 (26:20):
She's taunting, toying with me with it appears.

Speaker 1 (26:24):
That way the music video assimulating it.

Speaker 2 (26:28):
It was sort of like, what are you doing here?

Speaker 1 (26:30):
And y'all got matching tattoos together, Claudia, they're filming.

Speaker 2 (26:34):
They were filming together.

Speaker 1 (26:37):
They talked about how they first met, and I think
that's the reason why we wanted more. I think the
thing with Drew, and that's why I was like, Ralph,
if that is your truth you guys on a reality show,
that's fine, But I think when you are exposing anyone's sexuality,
whether it's a woman or a man or they it
is dangerous territory because that is that on persis comfortability

(27:01):
to be able to do it. And I'm not going
to go dark here, but a lot of bad things
can happen to a person who's not ready to say that,
regardless of what ch'all may talked about, because he said
out of his own mouth, she said it to me,
Ralph bro it's a difference that she said it to
you and not the world, so bors Moore did.

Speaker 4 (27:25):
Weren't they having problems before those allegations about him disappearing
or was it Flora like all that time? And he's
trying to like it was that's what made them most
men and he seems like the guy to be like, oh,
I'm with this, let me jump in, you know, if
that's the case, But like, wasn't he missing and doing
a lot of fun shit before that?

Speaker 5 (27:41):
They came onto the show with very obvious issues in
their marriage that they were vulnerable enough and brave enough
to share with us, right, So that was not the
straw that broke the Camels back from the viewers perspective,
but Ralph definitely said that that was the reason why
he filed, which was the very direct question that Shmia
asked him. So for him, maybe that was it, you

(28:02):
know what I'm saying. I also think that Ralph, it
just it felt so it just did not land well
with the viewers. And I think it was because Ralph
was obviously motivated by you know, a he was coming
from a place of it being like, this is my
time to say what I got to say because Drew's
not let me film. I don't have anything else any

(28:23):
other reason the film. They invited me here, I'm about
to say what I have to say. And that's why
his guns were really blazing during that conversation. And it's
a sad way to go out to me, but that's
what I believe that I saw.

Speaker 4 (28:36):
It's one thing where you don't have kids, like together,
like you know, portion of time and right or whatever. Right,
it's one thing we don't have kids. But then when
you have kids and like you're on TV and a
medium that's going to live forever, right, Honestly, kids can
act as social media and all that kind of stuff.
And see your dad saying that's about her mom. Their
mom where and I'm sure the mom has not had
a chance to have that kind of conversation with those babies,

(28:57):
you know what I mean, Like, I just think that
was just kind of stink like that. Ralph, I like,
you know, you're you're playing nasty now you're you're there's
other ways to handle this, I.

Speaker 2 (29:06):
Think, Yeah, No, her people hurt others and that's what
I got from it.

Speaker 1 (29:12):
Child, we are just getting started. This is reality with
the King and I'm Carlos King. Let's get back into
the show. I want to transition into Angela Oakley. Okay,

(29:38):
So Alay has several investments investment properties, excuse me, and
one of them, she invited Portia to to play tennis
because she said that because Portia made that comment about,
you know, the husband situation, she didn't feel she didn't
want her to come to her house, right, which to me,
I was like, that's funny because I was right, and

(30:00):
and that to.

Speaker 2 (30:00):
Me is like fun shade. So I really thought that
was hilarious.

Speaker 1 (30:04):
So they're playing tennis and in this moment, Angela decides
to sit Porsia down and really talk to her about
her friend Shamia. Angela decided to reveal that she drew
and Shamia had a conversation where Shamia mentioned some of

(30:30):
the issues that she does have with Porsia. In this conversation,
Angela told Porsche that Shamia is mad at you for
not attending her wedding, and not only that that you
supposedly did not want her to join the show The
Real Housewives of Atlanta, which by the way, I loved

(30:52):
it with shows break the fourth wall because we as
the audience, we were stabbing enough to know give us
all the information that we're able to to really understand
the root of it. Porscha breaks down in tears, cover
her face with a fan, and decides to leave Dustin

(31:14):
and Claudia.

Speaker 2 (31:15):
What were your thoughts on that entire exchange.

Speaker 3 (31:18):
First of all, great scene.

Speaker 5 (31:20):
Angela was holding court literally on that tennis court running
the show.

Speaker 3 (31:25):
Shout out to my friend Carrie.

Speaker 5 (31:27):
It's Carrie on Twitter who said that our h o
A and it sends for Real Housewives Oakley Comma Angela,
okay because this is her season.

Speaker 2 (31:35):
Uh Carrie, Yes, I love him. Hi Carrie, I'll follow him.
He's amazing.

Speaker 3 (31:41):
We fuck with you, Carrie.

Speaker 5 (31:42):
But that that that was just an example. Angela masterfully right,
got the most emotion we've seen out of Porsche all season.
Angela pulled it out of on that tennis court, putting
that fan in front of her face like that and
not being able to continue in the scene and it
reaching an emotional place that broke that barrier, that shield

(32:05):
that Porscha's been filming with all season, which is creating
the disconnect between her and her fans. We want to
know your emotions. We want to know how you feel
about Simon giving you hell. We want to know you
know what the real deal on you and Shemia's relationship
is because we've seen it for many, many years. Remember,
Shemia has been appearing on this show as a friend
of since season five, so she's not a new character

(32:28):
the court. To the core viewership of this show. We
know the history. We remember seeing Faedro do like this,
We remember seeing Faedro do that, saying that Shemiah alluding
to her, alleging that Shemiah was having a sexual relationship
with Candy and Todd and it wasn't true. We remember
all of those things, so we know the breaks that
have taken place in the friendship of Porsche and Shemiah,

(32:51):
and we.

Speaker 3 (32:51):
Want to see it.

Speaker 5 (32:53):
Another point, I want to make Angela might have first
share at that reunion. Carlos, You've talked about the importance
of that. She's been the focus. She's instrumental to several
of the stories that are taking place this season. Okay,
and based on the midseason trailer, she got some more
big ass moments to come. Angela might take that first

(33:14):
season first chair spot at the reunion opposite Porscha, So
it'll be good to see.

Speaker 2 (33:20):
I agree.

Speaker 4 (33:21):
I didn't see tears. I saw a fan in front
of a face, and I've been around lots of girls
with fake tears, and until I see water streaming down
your face, I'm not buying it. I felt like she
knew at that point, I'm looking really bad right now
and I'm going to cover my face and I just
can't continue. She thinks I think she's my laptop girl.

(33:43):
Bye girl, by listen. I know bad acting when I
see it because I do it all the time on
to be so I'm not buying one went bar Away
shot the whole family. I know bad acting. Portray girl,
I'll see you. We see each at that. No no, no, no,
no no no. Angela was very very brilliant for not

(34:03):
letting Porsche come to her house after what Porsche did
with Fallin at Fallon in Simon's house. So I thought
that was super dope and it was also like a
callback to that season when that happened. You can't show
me that that being called, being deemed that you feeling
like your friend thinks that she's your lapdog would make
you that upset. And then in the next scene at

(34:24):
the Panther by Porsche thing, you were so cold to
your friend. It's it's the mathe math, and I'm not
buying it, and I'm not quick to just give passes
on that. I'm sorry I called BS when I see BS,
and I agree with you. Angela just the way she's
moving like she goes right to the edge, but then
but not enough where she's being messy or inappropriate. She

(34:48):
holds the girls accountable and she makes them explain and
she makes some answer and then she tells the truth.
I do feel like Shemia did need a push. I
do think that the problem with Shemia and Porsche's friendship
dynamic is an balance of power. I think that Shemia's
esteem self esteem is not low, but lower than Porscha's, right,
so she probably feels like Porscha's like the big dog

(35:09):
and she's like, you know, she's in her shadow a
little bit. Whether no matter how many times we tell
Shemia how beautiful she is, how dope she is, she
gotta going on, I think internally she feels less than
and I think Porsha plays a hand in that by
the way she dismisses Smia's feelings. It seems, you know,
you can see that there's an imbalance of power there,

(35:31):
that it feels like one's here and one's there, when
really they're probably more like this.

Speaker 5 (35:35):
You know, it's so funny because so many people, so
many of us right have that takeaway from watching them
on the show. But the minute you just take a
step into like their social media accounts or any glimpse
into the real lives that these ladies lead, Shemiah is
by she is in no way a subordinate to Porscha

(35:55):
in real life. I think that we are as viewers,
just met Porscha first, and we're quite literally introduced to
Shamiah as Porsha's friend.

Speaker 3 (36:04):
But now that they have even footing on the show.

Speaker 5 (36:07):
I think it is a bit of a culture shock
for Porsha I think there's some resentment and jealousy there
and just some things that she's gonna have to face,
truly identify and accept and work through. Because the way
she did Shamiah when she was previewing her single at
the bank at that Vauda Angela's dinner, in addition to
a myriad of other instances where we felt like Porscha

(36:28):
was not the best friend to Shamiyah, it's a reckoning time.
So we're going to see now, We're going to see
people like Angela Oakley, people like Kelly Farrell. They are
having conversations with Samiyah that are forcing her to say
some shit out loud that she hasn't said out loud before.
And if Porscha reacts to that, it's gonna tell immediately

(36:49):
who she's always been in that friendship. You'll be able
to tell immediately by her reaction.

Speaker 4 (36:53):
So I do like about this season that there are
women that I don't think that Kelly and Angela are
actually coming from a mean place. I think in past
seasons you may have seen people carrying bones back to
get a scene to be messy. It does feel like
they're actually trying to give to me a like real
girl kind of girl, the girl women and women kind

(37:13):
of advice, like girl, like, you know, say something, speak
up for yourself and not it doesn't feel like mean spirited.
It doesn't feel like they're just trying to get a scene.
So I do like that about this season. And I
know people like to say I'm a POORTI hated listen.
I like holding people accountable. I'm not saying anything different
than than Angela Oakley, Okay, but she's just saying it
better and smoother and cuter, you know, and with less

(37:35):
cuss words. But she's like, I agree with how she's moving,
She's seeing things, She's coming to a new friend group
and saying, wait, hold on, this don't seem right. This
ain't sitting right with me. And I think there's nothing
wrong with calling that out. You can call people out
and that does not mean you're being a hater. Because
if someone is not evolving from their past bad behavior
and still moving in the same way and not really learning,

(37:57):
then until they stop them, we gonna stop. Can't stop.
I won't stop. I'm just saying we're just you know,
we're calling it out. And I would like to see
like her like evolved Porscha. I mean, I think I've
said it before, y'all. I think she's adorable. She has
a body of tea, she's funny, and when she's in
her like fun bag and not being a mean girl,
Porsche is a fun time. But all this stuff that

(38:18):
she's doing that she got when she kind of got bigger,
is making her less appealing. The thing that we liked
about it where she was like kind of like that dinghy,
kind of naive, kind of came off kind of I
don't know any better her oh two hundred and sixty
five days in a year. We laughed with her like
we laughed at her, but we also laughed with her too,
and it made her more charming. This mean girl thing

(38:38):
does not work for her. It's not cute. It's not cute.

Speaker 1 (38:42):
Yeah, So I want to because one thing about our
conversation that's very different than other people who recap the
shows is we do sort of go deeper when it
comes to the nature of some of this behavior. Somebody
in the comment said something that I want to I
want to address because I with them, Shamia, and.

Speaker 2 (39:02):
It's also something you brought on to Claudia.

Speaker 1 (39:07):
There's a power dynamic let's be rid, let's have a conversation.

Speaker 2 (39:12):
There is a power dynamic in Shamia.

Speaker 1 (39:15):
And portious friendship, just like there was a power dynamic
in Nini and Cynthia's friendship. Yeah, and and Claudia, it
doesn't you two clocked it, because I didn't think about
that until tonight, until you two said it.

Speaker 2 (39:29):
Angela and Kelly.

Speaker 1 (39:33):
Yeah, they made sure to bring out shamia in securities
to the forefront because they.

Speaker 2 (39:42):
Were moving story along.

Speaker 1 (39:44):
And they also want to in a weird way, and guys,
stay with me on this. In a weird way, Angela
and Kelly were trying to empower Samia to stand up
for herself and and and and I thought it was
something so interesting to watch because I remember producing Atlanta

(40:05):
Housewives and Claudia, you were their season seven. All of
the girls wanted Cynthia to wake up and and this
is their.

Speaker 2 (40:14):
Words, not mine, right, Claudia. A lot of those girls
were like.

Speaker 1 (40:18):
Cynthia, Nini called your husband a bitch. It looks like
your Nini's lap dog. Are you afraid of Niini? It
was something that Cynthia had to deal with and the
beauty of Cynthia. Years later, she admitted this on my podcast,
so listen to that. She said, because I came on

(40:39):
the show with Niini, I felt indebted to her. She
was my friend and and I thought I was just
being a genuine friend by like, this woman is my
friend on the show, so I'm a ride for her.

Speaker 2 (40:54):
And it wasn't until she got out of the cloud of.

Speaker 1 (40:56):
The show that she was able to sort of see
the dynamic shifting. I think for Shamiah and Portia's friendship,
and I want all three of us to be real,
especially Claudia, not that you're not real, but you have
a lot of female friends, and I want to hear
a lot from you.

Speaker 2 (41:15):
I know that in some friendships there are power dynamics.

Speaker 1 (41:18):
Yeah, in friendships there are queen bees, let's be real,
And especially in female friendships, there are queen bees. And
when I say queen bees, what I mean by that
is every friend group has one person who is sort
of like the leader, right, and then everyone else falls
in line. Not that they're submissive or weak, it's just

(41:40):
it's the dynamic of their friendship. That I have a
friend group where that's the case in my friend group.
Years later, I've been in all types of friend groups,
my current friend group, it is that way. And one
of my friends recently said to me, and I thought
it was so funny. We've been friends for like fifteen
years and he said the sem a three weeks ago.

(42:00):
He said, Bitch, I want you to know I have
no problems being Carlos Kings plus one.

Speaker 2 (42:07):
Baby, I'm here for it. I want all the perks
that comes along.

Speaker 1 (42:12):
With being your friend. Bitch, I want you to know
I am jealous of you. I don't want your life,
but baby, I want the perks. And we got a
good laugh at it because he is so confident in
his own looks, in his own career.

Speaker 2 (42:26):
He's not in the in the industry.

Speaker 1 (42:28):
But I thought it was interesting because it showed that
we could talk about the elephant in the room and
not be somebody that that's not able to address it.
And I think the thing is this, and let's be real,
it is challenging, and Claudia, I want to get your
thoughts on this. Porscha is the star of her friend group, right,

(42:52):
it doesn't mean that Smiah is less of a star.

Speaker 2 (42:57):
Right.

Speaker 1 (42:58):
And because Porscha and Shamiah grew up together, one person
career accelerated to the high heavens and another person didn't as.

Speaker 2 (43:09):
Big as Portia's.

Speaker 1 (43:10):
And I think what Shamia is craving for, and I
will love to ask her this, but I think what
Shamia's craving for is some acknowledgement of I am now
here and I want us to be together in this
And I think I think she probably feels afraid to

(43:33):
have that conversation because she's afraid of the response. So,
Claudia and your female friendships, would you say that's the
case in terms of like this subtle hierarchy that is
left unsaid.

Speaker 4 (43:45):
Yes, it's true, But I feel like, you know, when
in my friend groups, I will say I'm in that position,
and that's not in a cocky way. A lot of
them didn't know each other until I introduced them. So
like my birthday trip, there was twelve of us and
they all made toast to me, right, and they all
the one thing they all said was you brought us

(44:06):
all together. Does that mean I'm the most successful of
the group. Absolutely not. Tracey Evans was there any Alanza's there,
she's on SWAT, she's you know these that countless My
friend's chancey runs to businesses. They are That doesn't mean
I'm better than them, richer than them, more beautiful than them.
It does not mean that in a I brought them
all together so they was like some I have some

(44:28):
history with all of them, and I'm usually the initiator
of hey, let's all go to a rube, Well let's
all do this. But there's two types of women, right.
There's some that love being in the Beyonce role, and
they they like they kind of can look down. Not
that Beyonce does that, but I'm saying the obvious star, right,
and then they're they're they're not conscious of it. They

(44:48):
don't even realize like they're being rude or whatever. I
feel like, because I feel like I'm in that role
with my friends, I go extra out of my way
to big up my friends extra to make it feel
like I know, I wanted to feel like it's here,
and then it's here. If anything, it's here, and it's
here like damn, it are the same. The only thing

(45:08):
I have not even over them, is I initiate us
getting together. But I think that some women you learn
a lot from, You learn a lot about a person
by who they surround themselves with. A confident woman will
surround ourselves with other women, more beautiful, more successful, and
then get more attention than them and be totally fine,

(45:30):
like that's my dog right there, we here together. Insecure
women will want to be the star of their group
and surround themselves with women they know they don't get
as much attention, don't have it as pope as them,
And that tells you all you need to know about
that friend circle and how they probably treat each other,
and how one's probably gonna feel a little less than

(45:51):
I think that. I think it's nothing more powerful than
a group of women that are very closely yoked, equally yoked,
or even different kinds of yo hi yokes us, and
they all exist in harmony. I just think that with
I think that I'm not saying Poorsia purposely does that
touch me in but you can tell that one feels
more above and one feels my below.

Speaker 5 (46:13):
Yeah, I'm with Claudia on this one. I think there's
definitely a way to responsibly be a leader in a
friendship circle or a leader in a friendship group if
you're a person who has more acts. First of all,
we can start with personality, right. Some people just have
larger personalities they're willing to go first and speak up
first and do things first, and so they naturally assume

(46:34):
that leadership role. I got a huge motherfucking personality, and
I don't mind taking the lead in my friendship circles
that by no means indicates me looking at them less
than or anything like that. First of all, I love
the fuck out of all of my friends, and I
ride for mine. All my friends know that. It's no secret,
no question. Number two, I celebrate my friends just because

(46:56):
I have a certain type of job or I have
certain access to different environments and different shit. They have
incredible professional lives as well, and they have big personalities
as well, and we celebrate each other. We lift each
other up. There's a way to be the responsible leader,
and there's a way to be the friend of a
leader as well. That's responsible. That does not include jealousy
or ego or stupid ass issues that will arise from

(47:19):
ego and jealousy. There's no place for that in friendship. So,
if you're a leader, if you're a person who does
assume their role for whatever reason, and you give a
fuck about your friends, you care about their emotions and
how they're made to feel, you're always aware of that,
and you're not gonna kiss their ass or go do
things in a way that makes them feel even more different.

(47:42):
But you're gonna make sure that they're celebrated. You're gonna
make sure that you do the things that come naturally anyway.
So to me, it boils down to the authenticity of
the friendship. If you really riding and you're prime example,
Carlos and Claudia, I've known both of y'all for years.
You have both worked in entertainment for years prior to
the little shit.

Speaker 3 (48:01):
That the things that I do.

Speaker 5 (48:02):
Now, you know what I'm saying, I've never felt like
little dog, they're like little you know what I'm saying.
I've never felt that way, And I've always had a
tremendous amount of respect for the things that you all
have done, your accomplishments. It just goes back to the
root of the friendship. So what we're watching on TV
is because there are some fundamental cracks in their friendship

(48:23):
that are directly related to ego, to jealousy, to sharing
the spotlight, to not speaking up. You know what I'm saying,
You have to really show up one hundred percent in
a friendship in both extremes that we're seeing in the
friendship of Shamia and Porsche. Both of them could have
done a better job being honest with each other. Both

(48:43):
of them could have done a better job prioritizing their relationship.
But from what we've seen on the TV, Porsche has
not been as good of a friend to Shamiya as
we've seen Shamiah be to Porsha.

Speaker 4 (48:56):
That's it for me and putting my I try to
put myself in people's shoes, and for Portia, I understand
in a way how she may feel. Right, this is
my area, this is where I like, this is my
thing that I have my show. And then when my
friend comes along that you know, maybe you little little
maybe you do little dog or a little sister, I

(49:16):
don't know, but she comes along and like the first
few weeks, like everyone was like Samia Shamia, Shmia, I
could see how someone that's not that I could see
all that she would feel like you're encroaching on my territory,
you know what I mean. Not that it's right or
not that it's wrong. I'm just saying I could just
be I just just be sympathetic to how she may feel.

(49:37):
You know, and maybe if she's not that secure, maybe
she feels like someone's encroaching upon the thing that I
have over you, or the thing that I have the
one thing that's mine. This is my area. Not that
it's right, but I could see it.

Speaker 5 (49:47):
I just think you even using the words over you,
like the thing I have over you, just to me
that that is the thing right there in her mind.
That's what I'm saying, like the fact that that even
exists me personally, I'm not gonna be around nobody that
I can't trust. To me, that's the number one way
to be not safe. You hear crazy ass true crime
stories all the time about the best friend who was

(50:08):
really jealous or whatever.

Speaker 3 (50:09):
The fuck. The minute I see any indication.

Speaker 5 (50:12):
Of jealousy or snake ass behavior, any of that type shit,
you'll never hear from me again, real shit, because that's
a safety issue at that point, and it's no place
for that sort of perspective in real friendship. To me,
it's no way that Porsche should have ever. I don't
care what we don't know she actually felt like this.

(50:33):
We're judging based on what we've been seeing, on what
we've been shown on the show, Right But to me,
there's no way that she should have ever felt like
this show was something that a person, a motherfucker she
brought on the show. You know what I'm saying, can't
be a part of We wouldn't even know Samia as
your friend. Un Listen, you didn't bring her on the
damn show, Porsche. So for you to have that idea

(50:53):
that you don't want to share in that way or
share the spotlight, that's kind of fucked up to me,
Like that ain't what a good friend looks like.

Speaker 1 (51:01):
This is what the reason why this episode's my favorite
is because these are the type of topics I want
to talk about because it's relatable.

Speaker 2 (51:07):
It's relatable to the friendships, whether.

Speaker 1 (51:09):
It's gays, girls, men, these are relatable topics. And I
think bafe on what happened at Porscha's event, Right, So
Porscha learns this information and she decides not to talk.

Speaker 2 (51:24):
To Shemi about it. Right, all the girls are at
the event, and then.

Speaker 1 (51:29):
Kelly, Kelly decided to tell Shmiah, like, look, just so
you know, Angela told Portia what you said about her,
and we you know, I know, we pinky swar, you know,
which that's not the greatest thing right to say, I'm
gonna tell you all something about pinky swear. I think

(51:50):
the thing is this, The difference between a Beyonce and
Kelly is this Beyonce and Kelly both were in the
group together, and Beyonce as the lead singer, so she
always by position literally positioned, was always two steps ahead
of the rest of the girls in the group. Right,
But they both had a dream of startup. And what

(52:12):
I would like to know from Porsche and Shamia? And
this is just me being real. Did Shamia ever tell Porsche, right, hey,
I really want to be a housewife?

Speaker 2 (52:23):
Can you put me on? Because you know what I mean?

Speaker 1 (52:26):
Like if me and Dustin, me and you are boys,
and and and and this happened to me.

Speaker 2 (52:34):
In my life. Thank you, Dustin, Save me, Lord Jesus.

Speaker 1 (52:37):
Where somebody assumed that I didn't give much to them,
and I said, how am I supposed to know you
wanted this? If you didn't tell me, like you're walking
around here mad at me, Well you should have get
you you. I wanted some camera time too, if you
would have told me, I would say, Okay. Me and
Dustin met as friends. I met as a fan of Dustin. Right,

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I was a fan of Dustin's reviews and his acting
skills alongside Justse Smilett Honey. So I was a fan
of Dustin and me and Dustin friendship developed because of
just me admiring his skill set. And then when I
was doing all this stuff with his YouTube channel, I
obviously know you had a podcast, and I said, you
want to help my my YouTube and recap some stuff

(53:21):
with me. And when people start to like Dustin so
much so, Claudia, let's talk about real friendship. Some people
would say Dustin needs to host a reunion instead of Carlos.

Speaker 2 (53:34):
Kick Carlos off and have Dustin do it.

Speaker 1 (53:37):
I never once kicked Dustin off of my channel because
he was getting all this attention.

Speaker 2 (53:41):
If anything, I embraced it because at.

Speaker 1 (53:43):
The end of the day, I'm not We're not just
with each other, but we also have a real friendship.
And I know Dustin's dreams and I'm here to help
Dustin fulfill all his dreams that.

Speaker 2 (53:51):
I'm able to do. Stay thin with you, Claudia.

Speaker 1 (53:54):
People, you got Claudia on your show, kick her off,
and I'm like, I like her recapping Atlanta Housewives, says
to me. Y'alln't gotta like it, but I think it
makes sense and I'm here to help Claudia live about
her dreams. I am curious in real life, did Shamia
ever tell Porsche I would like to be an Atlanta housewife?

Speaker 2 (54:14):
Can you put in a word?

Speaker 1 (54:16):
And if Shamiah never told Porsha, how is it Porsia's
fault that she didn't give her a recommendation? If Shamia
never said that to her, and that's the conversaituation they
should have.

Speaker 2 (54:31):
And I'm gonna say this and let y'all cook.

Speaker 1 (54:34):
When Shamiah was put on the spot to address it,
I saw a little girl afraid to speak up for herself.
And I felt so bad for Shamiah because I want
to go deep with Shamiah. I need to know what
was Shamiah told in her childhood. Whereas a grown woman,

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she has this visible fear of telling her truth.

Speaker 2 (55:01):
And I felt really, really sad for her.

Speaker 4 (55:04):
Didn't she say on the show though? Or didn't? Okay,
I'm seeing people say that. Also. Candy brought her on
the show as well, but didn't shouldn't admit that she
did see evidence that Porscha did in fact, make a
recommendation the show. So to Porscha's credit, she did. She did,
she did recommend her. But but there's one thing you recommend,

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you know, and you recommend someone with something, but then
people really embrace them like you may not think they're
gonna embrace them like that. You're like, oh, yeah, you
come on the show, it's all good, But then they
saw giving you lots of love. Maybe there's that, But Porsche,
you're still a star. Like listen, no matter what I
say about you, my critique of some of your behavior,
you're still a star. Like, no one's taken your shine
away with you. You have a huge fan base, You

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have lots of opportunities people like you have a lot
of people that do like you. Even with your you know,
your little messes, you do like you never have to worry.
I've worked with a really big personality one time that
like would be so intimidate, not intimidate, bothered by people
that we're nowhere near his level of fame or wealth,
and it was mind blowing, Like you, how much further
have to go to be on that level? Like you're good,

(56:08):
but there are some people that are bothered by just
a little bit of Shine getting away from I'm not
saying that's Portia's case, but Portia did recommend her for
the show.

Speaker 5 (56:17):
She did has been recommended several times. Candy has spoken
at lengths about how she fought for many seasons to
you know, she advocated, catered for Sama to be a
part of this cast.

Speaker 3 (56:28):
Right.

Speaker 5 (56:30):
Another note I think that we need to speak about
related to the Porscha, Shamia and Angela of it all right.

Speaker 3 (56:38):
Again, they got mad at Candy.

Speaker 5 (56:40):
For her speak on the videos over the years, right,
and they felt like she was dragging the cast. But
those speak on the videos are now turning out to
be a great resource and a great time stamp for
what the fuck has happened. So Marlowe was on Speak
on It a couple seasons ago and she spoke about
this was when this was season thirteen, when they went

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to New Orleans and all that shit was going on.
There was an I remember Big Freeda came on the
show and there was an argument at the table. Marlow
speaks at length and Candy speak on the video about
Samia getting upset with her. If you remember, at that table,
Samiah was chiming in and she was nailing Marlow at
that table, and it was because there had been another

(57:21):
conversation off camera, just like the one that had taken
place in this season where Marlow said Marlow and Shamia
were arguing and Marlow said something about Samia's husband. According
to Marlow, this is straight out of Marlow's mouth to Candy,
Marlow said something about Samia's husband in some capacity, and
apparently Shemia said like, he wouldn't want you, and Marlow was.

Speaker 3 (57:43):
Like, yo, man, hell fuck me. If he'll fuck you,
you know, he'll fuck me.

Speaker 5 (57:46):
And Shemiah was highly offended by that, and you can
see in her disposition in the scenes that followed at
the table and all that other shit, that that was
a real issue for her. So a lot of people
have been sharing that clip and comparing and contrasting it
to Shemia's nonchalant nature. When Angela expressed to her that
she was upset about what she over, her porschas saying

(58:09):
off camera, might I add you know what I'm saying
about Angela's husband.

Speaker 3 (58:15):
So I don't know. I think that.

Speaker 5 (58:20):
I just think that there's deeper issues going on here
when they're showing themselves as who they really are to
each other. Remember the conversation that went on about Charles
and and what Porscha said that was off camera, So
those ladies were that was not for the show. That
was not you know, conversation to move story along or

(58:42):
say something to antagonize Angela. That was really real shit
that they was kicking outside that pool. That was real
feelings they were sharing that weren't really for the show
or for our consumption. So it just makes you think
on a deeper level, like what's really going on here?
You know what I'm saying. And I think that's why
people have started to this resounding conversation about holding this

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person accountable or holding that person accountable.

Speaker 3 (59:06):
But that flows flat on me because.

Speaker 5 (59:08):
As soon as Cynthia held Kenya accountable, y'all was on
her ass for weeks saying she was a horrible friend
of Kenya, she was a bad friend of Kenya. She
should have did this different, she shouldn't have said that.
So at this point, I'm just enjoying the show. If
the conversations happened on camera and we can make some
sort of determination based on that, that's it. That's what

(59:30):
I'm doing, because when it comes down to True Blue accountability.
When it comes down to a person really standing on shit,
it doesn't land the way that we think it would
on the fans. So that's why you don't play to
the fans. And that's why I don't even read the
comments because I feel like it's a place for people
to share their thoughts. It's not a place to seek

(59:50):
inspiration or to use as a compass when you're performing
as a part of these casts. And I think that's
another part of the disconnect when it comes to their
friend and shit, because the fans have a lot to
say about their friendship and that history.

Speaker 4 (01:00:04):
Two things also, Shamia's husband didn't want her to go
on the show, right, there's that. And one thing we
are forgetting about in regards to Porsha and Shia's friendship
is Shamiah didn't even know why Porsche didn't come to
her wedding. That was that had to be like wait, what,
I'm just finding this out now, you know, like you

(01:00:25):
holding things in for years Like that is like you
not telling me, I don't know, this is bananas, Like
if you're not coming to my wedding even though I
had three however, that had right as my bestie I'm
gonna need to know that day what the reason is.
I need to know right away. You know, that's got
to be you know that was that was deep. That
moment right there, that was pretty deep.

Speaker 1 (01:00:46):
Let's get into that because one of the things that
was said was Porscha told Shama, then I go to
your wedding because we weren't speaking pretty much speaking, and
Shamiyah said she never knew that, and that she was
told something about her, something about not being able to
fly and the comfortability of it. And then you know,

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black Twitter child, Black Twitter loves of receipt.

Speaker 2 (01:01:12):
That's why, to Edessa's.

Speaker 1 (01:01:13):
Point, when you are on these shows, you have to
like remember what you say. One of the things that
Claudia Jordia one of the things was in a previous season,
Porcha said she didn't go because I think it was

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something dealing with.

Speaker 2 (01:01:37):
Blood clots or something.

Speaker 4 (01:01:39):
On the plane with.

Speaker 5 (01:01:43):
The Philippines, Porscha said she couldn't get a seat of
first class flight and it was a long flight because
remember Candy and Carman were laughing at the table that
was in the heat of their disagreement, and they were
laughing about not being able to recline on the plane
and and that being her reason for not going.

Speaker 1 (01:02:00):
Yeh, so the fans saw that. So it's one of
those things where could two things?

Speaker 2 (01:02:06):
Could two things be true?

Speaker 1 (01:02:08):
Or did y'all feel like what you said, Claudia, This
friendship is so fractured that they don't have the ability
to be real with each other based on the whatever's
happening in the moment.

Speaker 4 (01:02:24):
Seems like Portia's dismissive of Shemia, like, yeah, whatever, get
over it. You know, if I can make it, I'll
make it. And then I it feels like Shamia is
afraid to, like really call to the carpet if my
best friend's not making one of my three weddings, or
if I wedding to however many I want answers, and
I would hold them accountable because I don't feel inferior
to my best friend.

Speaker 1 (01:02:41):
She went to for the record portrait that go to
the wedding in Atlanta.

Speaker 4 (01:02:46):
Well that's convenient. I mean, if I just got to
drive down the street, drive up eighty five, that's not
a big deal. That's not a big sacrifice. I need
you to get on a plane. You my bestie. And
if I said I'm an offer to BUYO ticket. HEFA,
you better be there. I'm just saying, but I feel
like that may feel like not being able to communicate
with someone that you do love. They do, I'm sure

(01:03:07):
they love each other, right, That's got to be a
horrible feeling, like feeling like you can't really say until
you had the nudging of two women you kind of just.

Speaker 5 (01:03:16):
Met, which at that point, the other person is obviously
going to be in defense mode. Right If we're now
discussing some deep, deeply buried, deep rooted, deep seated issues
at the behest of some people that we really don't
even know, like that, you know what I'm saying, Porscha
is automatically going to be on defense mode, and that's
why we're seeing the breakdown that we're seeing right now

(01:03:39):
in their friendship. Since the airing of this episode on Sunday,
Shamia is done press I saw her doing some inner.
She did watch What Happens Live on Sunday and spoke
very clearly and plainly about her disappointment and the breakdown
of her friendship with Porsche, and she said that Andy
asked her what she pausing or stopping, and she said,
at this point she is the friendship. So Shamia is

(01:04:02):
being more vocal now than she's ever been about it,
and she has definitely been empowered from whatever source or
for whatever reasons to speak her truth. I really enjoy
Shamia on this show. Seeing her as a housewife has
been great for me. I'm happy to see her on camera.
I think she's got a great, big personality that translates

(01:04:24):
well into television. And I like Shamia on this show.
I've always felt like Shamiah was wronged with that Phaedrus
shit and the Candy situation, So seeing her in this arc,
I'm enjoying it. I want to see more of it,
and I also respect friendship. So no matter what my
personal opinion is on who's right or wrong, we're talking about.

Speaker 3 (01:04:44):
A twenty plus year of friendship from.

Speaker 5 (01:04:46):
When they was kids, you know what I'm saying, Like,
that's something that you covered and you revere. Sometimes that
reverence has to start in the midst of a breakdown
or be you know, it has to be derived from
a breakdown sometimes, So maybe they can fix it.

Speaker 3 (01:04:59):
I'm hoping the best, but this.

Speaker 2 (01:05:01):
Is how I feel destined.

Speaker 1 (01:05:03):
Just because you grew up with somebody as kids or
teenagers and you guys were the best of friends as teens.
Sometimes that doesn't translate when you are grown. And I
think a lot of people stay friends because of the
history of the years they've known each other.

Speaker 2 (01:05:22):
I'm just gonna be honest here.

Speaker 1 (01:05:24):
I'm being very honest when I say this, and I
know Atlanta I lived there for years. Portia Shamia as
adult women are not in the same friend group, and
I think they both should talk to each other.

Speaker 2 (01:05:40):
I don't see them being friends.

Speaker 1 (01:05:42):
I think they're friends because of the history of the number.
I think Shamia in real life has our own group
of friends, and Portia in real life has our own
group of friends. I think they will always have. I'm
hoping this a respectful relationship, but I've been one thousand percent.
They're not the same type of chicks. They're just not.

(01:06:04):
And I think somebody has to say it like I
did growing up. Me and you, Yes, we known each
other since we were this age, but in my forties
we don't.

Speaker 2 (01:06:14):
I don't.

Speaker 1 (01:06:14):
We're not the same but different people, and it's okay,
it's okay. I don't think portion Shamia should be friends.
I'm sorry, they're not the same woman. They have two
separate friend groups. They it's obvious, but they gotta have
that tough conversation with each other, just like how Nini
and Cynthia. On Nini's Leaks podcast watch it, she interviewed Cynthia.

Speaker 2 (01:06:37):
It was a great conversation.

Speaker 1 (01:06:38):
I love the I love the interview because Nini and
Cynthia both said, I'm paraphrasing that we like who we
are today. We won't ever be back like we were,
but if we stumble upon each other at dinner, we
can talk.

Speaker 2 (01:06:54):
But gone are the days of Nanni.

Speaker 1 (01:06:57):
And Cynthia talking on the phone ten times a day,
all the days of them going on vacation together. But
they can coexist and get a good key, key, have
a cocktail, keep a movement. I think Shuni and Porsche
needs to have that level of prenticeship.

Speaker 4 (01:07:09):
Yeah, I agree. And also people change. I mean, listen,
there's no secret that Porsia's sister also felt away about
how she's been treated by her as well, you know
what I mean. So it's not like this is an
isolated incident, and maybe she's changed, maybe the fame from
you know, she definitely blew up, you know, and some
people act differently to us people. You can't start treating
people like they're your assistant or they're you know, hold

(01:07:31):
my bag, take my picture, you know, all that kind
of stuff, you know. And sometimes if fame comes quickly,
sometimes it makes people kind of like, you know, kind
of be filmed themselves and be a little bit, I
don't know, unconcerned about other people's feelings, are a little
bit colorblind to it, where you don't even like notice
that you're doing it, you know, because all the everybody
else is fawning over you and fans and whatever you need.

(01:07:53):
And then you start treating people that are close to
you like there's a help not saying she's doing that.
I'm just a hypothesis, hypothetically speaking. But you know, it's okay,
and nostalgia is not enough of a reason to stay
friends if it's hurting you both of them.

Speaker 1 (01:08:13):
Yeah, yeah, So all right, So next week, Dustin, Claudia, Smia,
and Portscha have their famous well infamous, I should say,
sit down. So we will be back next week and
talk about that in the rest of the episode.

Speaker 2 (01:08:26):
But thank you to so much for another great recap.

Speaker 1 (01:08:29):
Claudia, you are on tour, honey, not cowboy Carter, but
cop Boy, Claudia last let them know what you got
going on.

Speaker 4 (01:08:39):
Baby. We were in Indianapolis, Chicago for two shows in
Saint Louis. Just got to Atlanta today. We're gonna be
in Greensboro on Thursday, Atlanta shows on Saturday, and then
Charlotte on Sunday. I'll be in Atlanta all week. I

(01:08:59):
actually had a long conversation with Cynthia yesterday. We talked
for like over an hour. We get to catch up.
I'm so glad we got to talk about a bunch
of things like shout out to you, Cynthia, I love you.
That was fantastic. And she's like, I've be seeing with y'all.
She's like, you're built for that. I love what you're saying.
She likes the commentary and all of that. So yeah,
it's busy with that. Also, I really have to say

(01:09:19):
on this Wednesday on my podcast with Erica cop we
just got a huge booking. You know, I'm a political nerd,
but we have the Minority Speaker of the House, Hakeem Jeffreys,
joining us all of it. Yes, we're talking about messaging
of the Democratic Party, the things that Trump is doing,
and just a lot of things that. I am so
excited to please tune in this Wednesday Live on I'm

(01:09:43):
accidentally informed with myself and Erica Cop it's gonna be
a big shot for us.

Speaker 2 (01:09:47):
So yes, I love that. And dust is also on tour,
so Dustin, you have many.

Speaker 3 (01:09:55):
Dates a dude.

Speaker 5 (01:09:56):
Man, God is good and he told me you can
talk to shit, so I get to go. You know
what I'm saying. I'm very excited. Tickets are available now.
Go to Dustin rosslive dot com and you can have
access to tickets to all the shows. We're kicking things
off May twenty fourth in Pittsburgh. May thirty first, we'll
be in Seattle and then there's a litany of other

(01:10:16):
cities listed as well, So please.

Speaker 3 (01:10:18):
Come out and laugh. We're gonna have a good time.
And I can't wait to.

Speaker 5 (01:10:20):
See everybody on the road and shout out to everybody
who's already purchased tickets.

Speaker 3 (01:10:24):
I'll get so.

Speaker 5 (01:10:24):
Many tweets and dms and shit from people who bought
tickets and it really warms my heart.

Speaker 3 (01:10:29):
So thank you, and I'm excited come see me.

Speaker 4 (01:10:32):
I love seeing good people winning YouTube.

Speaker 3 (01:10:34):
Thank you my friends, Same to you, same you love you.

Speaker 1 (01:10:38):
Yes, Yes, Robert Allen said, tell Dustin how sexy he
is to me?

Speaker 2 (01:10:41):
Team Shami.

Speaker 3 (01:10:42):
Thank you, Robert Allen, and yes I am Team Shamid.

Speaker 2 (01:10:45):
That's right, all right, well, thank you, Jasin Banking, Claudia.

Speaker 1 (01:10:52):
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