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May 26, 2025 27 mins
"Did you hear? A little birdy told me. Don't tell anyone I said this."

Human beings love to gossip. We all talk about other people – sometimes it's a good thing and sometimes it's not.

But where do we draw that line? Where and how did we learn to gossip? Are there benefits?

We talk to the creator of the "Normal Gossip" podcast, Kelsey McKinney. Her new book is all about how we talk about other people.

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