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February 11, 2025 • 62 mins

Hey Lifers,

First up, please vote to save Matt in the jungle here!
Laura is slightly concerned about Lola's 'spontaneity' if they end up being sent to South Africa to be there for the final of I'm a celeb. She's developed a new way to release her rage 🌙.

Britt has asked one of us to be a very important person involved in her wedding, but it's not Laura... Laura knows exactly why she wasn't asked. If you had the option of seeing your friend's wedding dress before their wedding day without their permission, would you take a sneak peak? Be honest!

It's valentine's day this week. We're here to celebrate all of the Valentines, the galentines, the palentines and the ... dogentines. Would you rather a 'traditional' valentines gift like flowers, chocolates etc, or something more 'practical'?

Do you think it's okay to vent to your friends about your partner? We unpack what Jake said to Ashleigh on MAFS about 'breaking the trust' after she went to speak with one of the other contestants about some of the horrible things he said about other women during the photo ranking challenge. We speak about what makes it okay to vent and what makes it a bit of a betrayal to your partner.

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
This episode was recorded on Cameragle Land. Hi guys, and
welcome back to another episode of Life.

Speaker 2 (00:14):
I Cut.

Speaker 1 (00:14):
I'm Laura, I'm Brittany. Hi Brittany. I'm happy to be here.
We are recording this slightly early this week.

Speaker 3 (00:20):
Yeah, which I know that that makes no difference to
anyone else, but the reason for that is because I
may not be here if you all continue to vote
for my husband.

Speaker 1 (00:28):
Yeah, there we go. We did open.

Speaker 2 (00:29):
We just prepped the episode and we were like, okay,
so let's not start with voting for Matt.

Speaker 1 (00:36):
We'll ease into that. And then we're two seconds in
we're like, wait for Matt. Laura wants to go to Africa.

Speaker 3 (00:40):
Britt was like, please, can we just let's talk about
the wedding dress or like, We've got other things on
the list, Lola mooning me, Valentine's Day, There's quite a
few things. And I was like, I think I need
to get the vote for Matt in early so that
way I really have a hot chance of going to
Africa next week.

Speaker 2 (00:53):
I do love that we had the discussion and Laura's like, no,
I agree, and we're like, hi, guys, and she goes Africa.

Speaker 1 (00:58):
Matt vote ten times link.

Speaker 3 (01:00):
We'll put the link in the show notes. You can
vote on ten play anyway. Brit you went wedding dress
shopping this week. If you're not up to date on
the wedding dress saga thus far, it's not a saga.

Speaker 1 (01:10):
BRIT's having a great time. That's a term on you.

Speaker 3 (01:12):
Well, the saga is more a saga for us internally
because you haven't shown anyone the dress. You're keeping it
completely to yourself, which means a choice that I made, yes,
but to the extreme because often people take like one person,
BRIT's going to every wedding dress appointment by herself.

Speaker 1 (01:29):
Well, I went at the start.

Speaker 2 (01:30):
My friend Kim came, who's you know, she's one of
my really good friends. She is also has been like
my stylist for a couple of years just because she's
my friend. We went on The Bachelor many years ago,
so she came at the start like the first few meetings.
But she hasn't come since it's been made, so she
hasn't seen it either.

Speaker 3 (01:45):
So Kim was actually the stylist on the Bachelor, and
that's how you guys became friends and now as much
as your best friends. She also styles you for pretty
much everything anyway. Yea, it makes sense that you would
take her.

Speaker 1 (01:56):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:56):
I don't want people to think that I have a
stylist like on my books, because I absolutely do not.
I'm very lucky that I have a friend that happens
to be stylist.

Speaker 1 (02:03):
That has style.

Speaker 2 (02:04):
But yeah, so the saga is not a saga. But
I did go last week.

Speaker 3 (02:09):
No, no, No, it's a saga for me because I want
to know. I want to be included.

Speaker 2 (02:12):
Yeah, Laura hates not having control, and like she doesn't
know what the dress is.

Speaker 1 (02:17):
She doesn't know anything about it.

Speaker 2 (02:18):
Big small, tight, fluffy, loose, high neck, turtlenecks, backless, like
you don't know anything.

Speaker 3 (02:25):
The problem is is because I've seen in stricter feathers. No,
I've seen all of your reference images, and the issue
is is that every single thing you've just described is
in your reference image.

Speaker 1 (02:35):
So I'm pretty sure your dress is all of the above.
That's what I've expected. There's three. It's an amalgamation of everything.

Speaker 3 (02:41):
Yep, you're gonna walk down the aisle looking like you're
in the mask singer. No, that's the next reality TV
show that it's doing.

Speaker 2 (02:49):
Everyone I think we can safely say I'm never going
on the mask singer. We know that I can't sing.
I have the voice of a dying cat.

Speaker 1 (02:55):
No imagine. Actually I am walking down the aisle. But
it's one of those dresses where it depends on the
angle you look at.

Speaker 2 (03:00):
It's like an illusion, like it's a different dress on
each angle, like the back corner of one dress. One
of those cars that's that metallic paint, and it depends
on the light that you're in of color you see. No,
it's so I had my like quote unquote final fitting.
So it's not the final fitting, but it's the first
time I saw my dress done. There's obviously things to change,
like hems and putting things on and taking things off,

(03:22):
like fine tuning, but it was the first time I
actually put it on, and I just love it, like
I just love it, and I just can't.

Speaker 1 (03:31):
Wait to see it.

Speaker 2 (03:33):
And so spilling the beans here, Like we actually did
have a private moment Laura, Keisha and myself a couple
of days ago where like, well, I sat them down
and I said, I need to ask you something, and
I also love that The first response was, hang on,
should we save it for the podcast, and I was like, no.

Speaker 1 (03:47):
This is a real moment. This is like a real
life moment.

Speaker 2 (03:51):
Because Keisha and Laura aren't my bridesmaids, which I know,
and I wasn't Laura's bridesmaid, and I know a lot
of people don't understand that because from the outside we
are all so tight.

Speaker 1 (04:01):
But it's it's different, not actually, yeah, we don't actually
like each other, no, but it's different because we love
through the tears.

Speaker 2 (04:10):
Well, like Laura and I have been business partners and
friends for years, but when you choose to only have
two or three, you know there are lifelong friends, there
are siblings, there are it's just different and so we.

Speaker 1 (04:21):
All understand that, but a lot of the lifers didn't
understand that.

Speaker 3 (04:24):
Well, We've had so many conversations over the years around it.
For me, in my situation, I had four bridesmaids, and
all of my bridesmaids were people that I was made
of honor for their weddings. And also they were every
single one of them I've known for more than ten years,
so like they were like long lived. I was like
four years off the commission, and I was sorry for it,
but also like you signed my wedding certificate, like you

(04:44):
played a really important role in my wedding, and like
was included in all the.

Speaker 1 (04:47):
Things I made. It not legal accidentally, No, it's still legal.

Speaker 3 (04:51):
You just put smiley face on there. So it's super
unfucking necessary. But there's a reason. There's a reason why.
I was like, oh, that's the only job I'm giving her.

Speaker 1 (04:59):
On the day I literally signed her wedding.

Speaker 2 (05:03):
S divie, I didn't know I couldn't do it, and
then I put a smiling face and like a kiss
at the end.

Speaker 1 (05:07):
Laura's like, you can't.

Speaker 2 (05:09):
That's it forever, and I was like, sorry, I didn't
realize it was such a big thing anyway.

Speaker 3 (05:14):
No, it's not like getting your universe's certificate. It's not
like anyone frames it.

Speaker 1 (05:17):
And puts on their wall. Yeah. Well never. I don't
even think i've seen it. I don't know where it is.
Do you know what I did to mine? By accident?
You know how when you're no my degree. Oh I
didn't realize one day. You know, when you've got to
start a ballpoint pen, you've got to roll it around
to get it going.

Speaker 4 (05:32):
One time I was trying to get a pen going,
so I could write something and I.

Speaker 1 (05:35):
Was like that texture feels weird and the other things around.

Speaker 4 (05:39):
I've drawn scribbles to get to on my actual degree
and I was like, well, I don't use it anyway.

Speaker 1 (05:45):
That's so funny.

Speaker 2 (05:46):
You never look at them anyway unless you're a doctor. No, congratulations,
you do. But I don't even know where money is irrelevant.
So yeah, So I've got three bridesmaids and they're all
my sister, my lifelong friends.

Speaker 1 (05:58):
Like it just you guys didn't fit.

Speaker 2 (06:00):
Sorry, in the nicest way possible, I didn't want a
huge bridal party.

Speaker 1 (06:06):
Yeah, we get a baby.

Speaker 2 (06:07):
Yeah, And no, I'm not explaining to you guys, like
you know, I'm just letting everyone else know. But I
did sit them down and I said, like, you guys
know that I'm having a small bridal party. And unfortunately
you didn't make the cut. But you are my closest
people and like you are my besties, and I want
you to still be a part of the day, and
I want you to be there with me getting ready
for me. But then you just have to take your seat,

(06:28):
like you don't get to go sit up the front.

Speaker 3 (06:29):
I'm gonna say something here, which may be controversial.

Speaker 1 (06:33):
I think that if you are a.

Speaker 3 (06:35):
Very close friend who doesn't have to be a bridesmaid,
it gets to do all the things that the bridesmaids do.
You are the fucking elite friend. Because being a bridesmaid sucks.
Is so much work, it's so expensive.

Speaker 2 (06:46):
It doesn't suck for my bridesmaids because I've made it
as easy as possible. I have no expectations of anyone.
I'm making sure everything's organized for them. I'm not like, yes,
they're flying there, but I'm paying their accommodation there, I'm
paying their dresses, I'm paying their hair, and like there's nothing.
I want nothing from them. And I made that choice.
I don't want anyone to feel the pressure. But so
I asked the girls if they would come on the

(07:07):
day and do everything like they're part of it.

Speaker 1 (07:09):
And I started crying and it was a really emotional moment.

Speaker 2 (07:12):
And then Keisha brought up the fact that I had
secretly asked Keisha to do this huge favor for me.
I asked Keisha if she would actually be in charge
of taking my wedding dress to my wedding.

Speaker 3 (07:25):
Yeah, this is where the real this is the point
of contention. In our friendship group. I don't care about
the bridesmaid requests, but the dress interesting. Also, Keisha's as
big as the dress, She's not gonna be able to
carry it.

Speaker 1 (07:38):
Actually, it actually is a.

Speaker 4 (07:39):
Big responsibility, I've realized, and I'm not particularly reliable, so
I'm curious as to why I was chosen.

Speaker 1 (07:45):
As long as you definitely take your ADHD medication, I
feel safe.

Speaker 4 (07:52):
Like you are taking it to Bali ride, she gets
to the airport, she's forgot to pack it.

Speaker 1 (07:57):
I wouldn't be surprised. I feel like I miss something. Toothbrush. Yeah,
wedding dress.

Speaker 2 (08:03):
Fuck no, I asked you to take my weddingdress because
I'm actually not coming from Australia. I'm gonna be gallivantin
around the world for a while and I can't be
taking my dress over. So I was like, who out
of my friends can I trust? And no offense Laura,
But Kesha's name came before yours.

Speaker 1 (08:17):
It's because you know I will look. It's like I
will look.

Speaker 2 (08:20):
You've left really important things on your car a lot.
They've fly They've flown off as you're driving. You lose everything, guys.

Speaker 3 (08:26):
I the other day we were walking to work and
I was like, fuck my phone and she was like, yeah,
it's in the console in the car.

Speaker 1 (08:31):
And I got back to the car and no, it
was not in the console. It was on the roof.
I just left it on the roof of the car.
Do you leave a lot on the roof?

Speaker 3 (08:38):
Actually yeah, it's because like when I have full hands,
I like to put some things on the roof and
then I like to just walk away from it.

Speaker 1 (08:44):
But that's we're joking. That's not it. It should puts wedding
dress on the roof.

Speaker 2 (08:50):
Sydney Harbor Bridge, on the way it's just like flying
through their No, it's not that I think you would
forget it. I absolutely know you would get my dress
there if you had to.

Speaker 1 (08:57):
But I would look. But I know that you would look.
I don't trust you that way. I take a little peek.
You would, wouldn't you. Yeah, I'd just try it on.

Speaker 5 (09:07):
We are better, She posted the following day, one hundred percent.

Speaker 1 (09:14):
That's what you do. I just don't trust you not
to peek.

Speaker 3 (09:17):
We once had someone wrote in or ask on cut
and she walked in on her mother in law trying
on her wedding dress. Her husband to be had let
his mom try on his soon to.

Speaker 1 (09:30):
Be wife's wedding dress and Britt that would be me.
I'll do it. I'd get read to watch the door.
That's so weird. It's so it's so weird. And she
watched the door make sure brit doesn't come.

Speaker 2 (09:45):
So that is why I chose Keisha. YEH understand, I
don't personally. Also, it was a choice as friendship choice
in terms of.

Speaker 1 (09:51):
Like you are hierarchy, I get it.

Speaker 2 (09:55):
Yeah, that sucks because you have been on the scene.
Two to three is longer than Keisha.

Speaker 1 (09:59):
But irrelevant. She puts in the groundwork though.

Speaker 2 (10:02):
It was a favor as well because my sister's traveling too,
and I said to Sherry, I would love you too,
but she's traveling with a baby. You're traveling with two kids.
When you've got kids and all of their stuff that
you're traveling with as well, it's too much to then
put a potentially small or gigantic wedding dress into your luggage.

Speaker 3 (10:20):
So a potentially small or gigantic three wedding dresses and
to your luggage multiple outfit changes.

Speaker 1 (10:25):
Why do you carry no? Potentially don't think I'm going
to be able to take any luggage over with me.

Speaker 2 (10:30):
I'm kid, you're going to need a cart and potentially
oversized luggage.

Speaker 3 (10:35):
Well okay, well, speaking of like luggage and how carrying
things and all this, this is a nice segue into
me talking about Africa. Okay, okay, you're allowed, thank you,
thank you. I really have been trying to hold this
one in for a while. So if Matt makes it
through to the final, I will get to go to
Africa with the girls.

Speaker 1 (10:53):
But it is like a blast trip, like I would
have to fly.

Speaker 3 (10:56):
Over there, get the girls over there, and then we
would do like the Ah reunion. Yeah, everyone's back together
and they get on a flight and come home. The
problem is is that the flight is horrific. It's like
you fly from Sydney to Singapore, have a layover Singapore
to Johannesburg, Johannesburg to hood.

Speaker 1 (11:13):
Sprints something in the middle of nowhere.

Speaker 3 (11:15):
Right there's like a little jungle town and it's all
through the night. So the Singapore layover is like middle
of the night with two kids. So I potentially, if
he's doing well and everything goes well, I will potentially
get a call up like with twenty four hours notice.
I will have to rally the kids and be on
a plane.

Speaker 1 (11:34):
I actually feel for you.

Speaker 3 (11:36):
I don't know how I am going to do essentially
like twenty four hour international flight by myself with two
kids with only a one hour layover in Singapore and
get them from.

Speaker 1 (11:45):
One part of the airport to be I've got an idea.
Put them in a wedding dress bag and drag them
along the ground. Just drag that.

Speaker 2 (11:52):
You're going to need to do the phone ahead where
you know when you get off the plane there's always
people waiting with like the little carts. You're gonna have
to have a cart. I got my mama cart.

Speaker 1 (12:01):
Titch you.

Speaker 2 (12:01):
Yeah, my mom and I got a cart because we
didn't have a We didn't have a very long layover,
so we had to get on a cart.

Speaker 1 (12:07):
Not a wheelchair. I didn't put a chair. We had
to get there.

Speaker 3 (12:11):
I'm not worried about anything except for Lola. Like she's
the wild card of our family. I have no idea
how she is going to go. Molly fine suitcase is predictable,
Pram also predictable.

Speaker 1 (12:23):
Lola like Poo knows how that's going to go.

Speaker 3 (12:26):
And she's going through this phase at the moment hit
me out. So she's got this new thing that she
does when she's really mad. So firstly she used to
go through phase where she would hit me, and now
she stopped hitting me. That's great because we had a
big conversation about how you can't hit mummy, like you know,
mommy doesn't hit you, you can't hit mummy like an
anger response, Yeah.

Speaker 1 (12:44):
Yeah, yeah.

Speaker 3 (12:45):
Like when she's so filled with rage, she wants to
hurt someone, usually it's me, and she stopped doing that now.

Speaker 1 (12:51):
But now what she started doing.

Speaker 3 (12:52):
Is she's so filled with rage that she strips naked
and moons me. So she is butt naked, like pulling
her butt, cheeks apart and screaming, oh.

Speaker 1 (13:03):
She she pulls them in the full bird time for you.

Speaker 3 (13:06):
And all I'm imagining is being midnight in Singapore airport
with a kid with no pants.

Speaker 1 (13:11):
On streaming at me, mooning me. Where does that come from?
Like has she seen? Like that's a real, a really
particular thing to be.

Speaker 2 (13:18):
Like I'm gonna moon mom, like I'm gonna move you
know what, I'm so angry, I'm gonna pull my pants
out and bend over Like that is a real commitment
to the anger.

Speaker 3 (13:26):
Have you never been so angry that you just wanted
to bend over and pull your butt cheeks?

Speaker 2 (13:29):
Oh?

Speaker 1 (13:29):
You should see Ben and I. When I fight, it
takes it as an as an offer. He's like, that
was quick, makup moon straight straight down the camera. I
don't know where it comes from.

Speaker 3 (13:39):
It comes from like this inability to get the rage out,
and so yeah, it just I can't respond to it
because if I get angry or I get like, if
I even say anything, all I'm doing is reinforcing that
she's gotten a reaction from me. So I have to
just walk away. And then I start laughing because it's
so ridiculous.

Speaker 1 (13:59):
You can't let her see you. Of course not.

Speaker 3 (14:01):
It is the most ridiculous thing I've ever experienced. My
child is so angry at me that she rips her
pants off and moons me.

Speaker 1 (14:07):
But imagine how many relationships would be solved that's the
way you solved a fight.

Speaker 2 (14:12):
Like, I actually think that something is faulted by my
four year old. But imagine if you guys were fighting,
you and Matt, and then he just pulled his pants
out and bent over, the.

Speaker 1 (14:19):
Fight would be over because she'd be like, like, it's
actually really funny. I think it could be like a
conflict resolution. I think i'd get the X my husband.
We're going to do a social experiment the next time, everybody.
Next fight I have with Ben, I'm just gonna bend
over the next part I have with you, Britt, I'm
just gonna get we both do it.

Speaker 2 (14:39):
Though we're both looking over, we're just like fighting back
when forth without butt.

Speaker 4 (14:46):
I'm just here going we need a fucking hrd apartment Ace.
He's just like a I don't know how parents are
in moments like that. I don't know how you have
the self control not to erupt with laughter. Like, I
don't know how you're able to not just situations like that,
but any situation where you know you have to not react.

Speaker 1 (15:06):
I don't know how you control yourself when things are
that funny.

Speaker 3 (15:09):
No, because you're all so mad at the same time,
you know, Like I'm like, if she's yelling at me
and getting like frustrated and then she moons me like yes,
it definitely dissolves the situation quite fast. But I'm still
annoyed that we've gotten to a point of this, you
know what I mean, So like I don't feel like
super joyful and like, ah, that's funny, little lie. I mean,
I walk away and I do laugh, but I'm like, oh,

(15:30):
this kid is testing me.

Speaker 5 (15:31):
It.

Speaker 2 (15:31):
But surely that's a de escalation from like hitting physically,
Like surely I would.

Speaker 1 (15:38):
Rather be mooned than be smacked in the face. Probably
depends where you are though.

Speaker 2 (15:41):
Imagine if you get onto the I'm Slippery final and
she's so mad she just moons live TV.

Speaker 3 (15:45):
She's like, fuck this, this is the problem. If she
hasn't had enough sleep, it's a very big possibility. So
we shall see everyone keep watching. Also, please vote, like,
just go and vote if you haven't voted, old beg you.

Speaker 1 (15:58):
Britt will give you a puppy. Just vote. Vote. I've
been given puppies out for years years from you. I
will give a puppy out.

Speaker 2 (16:04):
Matt will no, we do want to see him at
the end, so do vote. And there's like we want
to see you in South Africa.

Speaker 1 (16:09):
That would be fun.

Speaker 3 (16:10):
Thank you because you can't see me in South Africa.
I want to go on a Safari.

Speaker 1 (16:14):
I just say, yeah, it's actually incredible.

Speaker 3 (16:17):
I think I deserve it, so like, don't bother voting
for him. It's a vote for Matt is a vote
for me everyone. The link is in the bio.

Speaker 1 (16:23):
This is a vote for Lola's buttole Well, just in
case you don't know.

Speaker 2 (16:28):
And I don't want to rub this in for any
of the single people that don't have a Valentine.

Speaker 1 (16:32):
But it's Valentine's Day on Friday. Man, that comes around quick,
doesn't it. Ye, But it doesn't matter if you're single,
then you have Gallentines.

Speaker 2 (16:39):
Yeah, so you can celebrate with your best year or
Valentines like a pal yeah.

Speaker 1 (16:44):
Or dogging times can celebrate with your dog. It is
Valentine's Day.

Speaker 2 (16:48):
And since I've been with Ben the last two Valentine
three Valentine's Day.

Speaker 1 (16:54):
Doggon times should happen. Did see it like really getting
into great?

Speaker 2 (17:00):
I definitely tried to brush over it, but you'd be
brought it back.

Speaker 5 (17:03):
Oh.

Speaker 1 (17:03):
I didn't mean best reality. I just like spend a
day with you dog. Oh my god.

Speaker 2 (17:07):
We can't even talk about that. That's another thing, is
we'll get into it. No, I don't think we can
which nothing here. It's just something we heard on the grapevine.
That's not I thing we need to be like nothing,
no buciality.

Speaker 1 (17:16):
Here, but happy Valentine's everyone, happy.

Speaker 2 (17:19):
Dog and timees it's Valentine's Day if you listen to
this on Wednesdays.

Speaker 1 (17:24):
Valentine's Day in two days time. But I am a
lucky woman to have been as my partner, Like he's
always been so romantic? Can he?

Speaker 2 (17:34):
Since I have met him? Because we're long distance, he always,
like has been that person that sends me different kinds
of gifts, not even for Valentine's Day. He'll send me
things just to say I'm thinking of you, Like the
cutest things he sent me giant.

Speaker 1 (17:45):
Blown up cards before.

Speaker 2 (17:46):
There's just a picture of us that he blew up
just to say I love you, Like he's such a
sweet guy.

Speaker 4 (17:50):
I've just had a flashback. I think it was two
years ago, but I can't be sure. You and I
were driving in the car on the way to work,
and we were talking about Valentine's presence, and you and
I were both saying what we hated, and you were
saying box flowers and I was saying teddy bears.

Speaker 1 (18:06):
I was like, it's really childlike, so strange. Why would
you get someone that you love? And then you got
home to box flowers in the shape of a Teddy Bear.
Yeah yeah, I like dried and meant to last for
a year. That was a really low point for me.

Speaker 2 (18:20):
So I accidentally did sit on a particular kind of
present and that is what Ben had already ordered me.

Speaker 1 (18:26):
So there was a moment. Well that has set.

Speaker 2 (18:28):
The tone for a future Valentine's Day. So I did
get an early Valentine's Day present from Ben. I guess
when you send the presents from overseas, you can't really
work out the day that they're going to get there.

Speaker 1 (18:37):
So it came a couple of days early. Guess what
I got.

Speaker 3 (18:41):
Roses, which is also pretty triggering after being on a bachelor.

Speaker 2 (18:45):
I got an entire care package of supplements. Supplements, I
got multi vitamins and iron.

Speaker 1 (18:52):
Oh, no, I got you yep. I got a giant
protein powder. But did it come in the shape of
a row? That's the important there.

Speaker 2 (19:01):
It was teddybear protein powder. No, I got a giant
protein powder protein bars. Then I got amino acids that
apple flavor. Then I got sent collagen. I got magnesium
for recovery, and then I got creating with a note
that said, hey baby, Creatine's really important for women and
their brain function. My brain function specifically, he has research

(19:25):
that I need brain function help and put a supplement
package together and sent it and I couldn't stop laughing
because I was like, this is not what I was expecting,
but low key, it's the best Valentine's Day present I've
ever received.

Speaker 3 (19:36):
I think it is a very thoughtful one, considering that
you're training a lot for dancing with the Stars, So
I'm for it. You're gonna use that more than you're
gonna use a giant dried Teddy Bear flower.

Speaker 1 (19:46):
Like that just screams, I don't know you.

Speaker 2 (19:49):
Also, just I just remembered the best part about the
Teddybear flowers was that he paid extra to have them
last longer so that you could you could have them
for like up to six months.

Speaker 3 (19:58):
And Brittany threw them away and he was like, hey,
how all those flowers going, And you were like, they died,
but they hadn't died, and that's how you got sprung.

Speaker 2 (20:04):
Sorry, man, but I just thought that was If anyone's
like thinking of Valentine's Day presence, I think it's really
cool to maybe think outside the box and not necessarily
be overly romantic for me. I was like, this is
actually so thoughtful, Like every single thing he brought me,
it actually cost a lot to buy that stuff for yourself,
and it's thoughtful because I evidently need some brain help,

(20:25):
but I need recovery help.

Speaker 1 (20:26):
Yeah, I don't know.

Speaker 3 (20:27):
I have conflicting feelings about Valentine's Day because obviously, on
one hand, I work in retail, and the creation of
Valentine's Day was to help boost economy and help boost retail.

Speaker 4 (20:36):
You know what's a good gift, Tony may jewelry yet
swipe up, swipe up my husband.

Speaker 3 (20:41):
Also, you get a poppy in with a necklace Tony
Marie hashtag No, but it was right, Like so, I mean,
this is probably a bit too much information, but statistically
across retail, February is a very low month for sales.
There isn't any event apart from Valentine's Day, and you've
just gone through the massive sales of Black Friday of Christmas.
You've then had your Boxing Day sales, and January is

(21:02):
kind of a bit of a no man's land, like
everyone's still on a high from Christmas, but then there
isn't anything that gives you an uplift in retail sales
apart from Valentine's Day, so it was really created as
a commercial holiday, I guess. And for me, I'm like, Okay,
it's nice. It's nice to have a day to celebrate
your partner, blah blah blah blah blah, But so much
of the products that you can buy around Valentine's Day

(21:24):
are just so deeply NAF, like NAF looking flowers, NAF
looking cards. For me, I'm kind of like, it's nice
to do something special, but I also have a bit
of a like an ick to the complete consumerism around
absolute junk that's going to end up in a landfill
very shortly afterwards, Like I hate it.

Speaker 1 (21:40):
Hence the protein powder allim. Yeah, yeah, creating that's what
every woman wants. Who doesn't want brain function?

Speaker 3 (21:46):
Yeah, on a Saturday morning.

Speaker 1 (21:49):
It's such a back ending compliment, though, isn't it.

Speaker 3 (21:51):
Do you know something that we are going to talk
about which does also kind of link into rain functions, Well, no,
it doesn't link into brain function.

Speaker 1 (21:58):
It links into love and to love because it has
something to do with maths.

Speaker 3 (22:02):
We used to do a segment on this pod like
forever ago called confessionals, and it was as much of
a staple as what Accidentally Unfiltered is. And I received
a couple of messages in the last week, and one
of them in particular, which was like, hey, what happened
to confessionals? Like they just disappeared one day and you
guys stopped doing them.

Speaker 2 (22:19):
I also got the same message, So she really wanted
it back up, guys.

Speaker 1 (22:22):
I got it too. She wanted to make sure that
confessionals came back. I think we've all been creating division.

Speaker 3 (22:29):
I've forgotten about it, right, Well, there's one person who
desperately wanted confessionals to come back.

Speaker 1 (22:34):
This is for you.

Speaker 3 (22:35):
No, we weren't thinking about it, and we were talking
about it in our WhatsApp group that we have and
some of the confessionals that we used to have come
in bought it on Illegal to absolutely hilarious and it
was such a fun segment that we used to do
on the show.

Speaker 1 (22:46):
So we're going to bring it.

Speaker 3 (22:47):
Back in light of Maths, in celebration of the abomination
and whatever whatever we're going to call Maths and whatever
it is this year, we are bringing back Confessionals. And
we both did individual callouts on our socials.

Speaker 2 (22:58):
She feel like this is just going to betive of
like who's following is more fucked up, like because we're.

Speaker 1 (23:02):
Both put in for the confessionals, yours and mine.

Speaker 3 (23:05):
No, there are some things that I cannot read out
that you guys confess to because they are illegal or
they are like so morally corrupt that I was like,
I can't even read this out and then laugh about
it because I feel so deeply uncomfortable for anyone who's wondering.

Speaker 4 (23:19):
That joke that we made a couple of minutes ago
surrounding best reality is in reference to confessionals.

Speaker 3 (23:24):
Yes, yes, so there is a line and some of
you crossed it, but that's okay. Like we said, we
listen and we don't judge.

Speaker 1 (23:29):
I judge that.

Speaker 2 (23:31):
The other thing I want to say the pistiality before
we get canceled is not that this makes it I
don't know.

Speaker 1 (23:36):
It doesn't make it better.

Speaker 2 (23:37):
It wasn't penetrative, so like otherwise we don't know, because
otherwise I would have reported it. If you're fucking an animal,
don't tell me because I'm going to report you, like
I will report you.

Speaker 1 (23:46):
That's our line.

Speaker 4 (23:48):
How proud should we all be of ourselves that that's
the lie moral obligation.

Speaker 3 (23:54):
I think it's important because, like we do these call
outs for confessionals part of this so that the benchmark
is that you're completely anonymous. We'll read them out, we'll
all have a giggle. But you know, you can kind
of like absolve your sins. Tell us what you tell us,
what you've done. It doesn't mean that you're not going
to hell, but it just means you got it off
your chest. However, if we did receive something that was
completely morally bankrupt and actually needed to be reported illegal, of.

Speaker 1 (24:16):
Course we would.

Speaker 3 (24:17):
So like, I know, we make jokes, but like, let's
just get that out in the open.

Speaker 1 (24:20):
Let's do that. I did get some cooked ones.

Speaker 3 (24:23):
I'm gonna kick this off. So here are your confessionals.
When my husband goes down on me, I think of
his dad. I'm not even that attracted to his dad,
but it always makes me come fast.

Speaker 1 (24:35):
You should think you are attracted to your dad.

Speaker 3 (24:38):
You should never tell your husband that that's not recoverable.

Speaker 1 (24:41):
I'm going bullshit.

Speaker 2 (24:42):
You don't think about someone's dad if you're not attracted
to him. There's some daddy your dad, Tony.

Speaker 1 (24:52):
I'm kidding. I'm kidding. Opportunity she took it. You're never
going to be able to meet Tony in the flesh.
She's picking him up for Dancing with the Stars in
like a week. She's taking him to the concert. Well,
it's gonna be a fun night for you after that,
isn't it. I said, sorry, Keisha, my mom's there as well.

Speaker 2 (25:13):
Okay, okay, I'm never gonna get that image out of
my head, Keshan. I caught my father in law on camera.

Speaker 1 (25:20):
Well, sorry, I didn't even plan that.

Speaker 2 (25:22):
I caught my father in law on camera sniffing and
licking my sex toys.

Speaker 1 (25:30):
You should hear his reason in front of him. Then
she did a dot dot dot and she didn't tell me.
And I wrote back and I said, what's the reason?
Let me see if she's written back. She caught her
father in law sniffing and licking.

Speaker 2 (25:44):
Okay, this is her vibra. I am reported, this is
happening live. She's typing live. I've written back to her
and said, oh my god, what is his reason?

Speaker 1 (25:51):
I need to know. It's the it's the typing. I
feel sick. I'm not well, guys. Is the anticipation killing you?
She's it's been typing for a bit.

Speaker 2 (25:59):
It's a I'm Goh my god, I actually want to cry.

Speaker 4 (26:03):
I was saying, like his reason, that means that she's
confronted him about it and asked him why.

Speaker 1 (26:10):
Did she walk in on it?

Speaker 2 (26:11):
Like she caught him on camera, So she's obviously confronted
him and said, like, why were you licking my sex toys?

Speaker 1 (26:16):
But what reason do you come from that? I thought
it was a lollipop?

Speaker 2 (26:19):
Okay, oh, oh my god, this is happening live. We've
got the sex toy message. I'm reading this for the
first time. His reason for doing it.

Speaker 1 (26:27):
He knew that they were there a ka.

Speaker 2 (26:29):
He admitted that he had gone through my wardrobe before,
like this basket is high out of reach, out of
sight of children or anyone for that matter. So he's
known that they're there. Because he knew they were there,
the curiosity just.

Speaker 6 (26:41):
Got the better of him, so so he said that No,
he said that his reason was just he was curious
as to what her sex toyts melt like. He just
said that, Oh, it's honestly the most horrendous situation I've
been put in, and I got told I had to
forgive him because I was putting a rift in the.

Speaker 1 (26:59):
Fel She told the whole family. So she got gas slided,
she got dildo sniffing victim blamed by her stepdad. That
is the most messed up story.

Speaker 4 (27:13):
And I've been told you just had to get over that.
You just have to get over it because you're causing
a problem in this family, not.

Speaker 1 (27:19):
Him breaking into your room and sniffing your sex toys.

Speaker 3 (27:22):
Like you could never sit around at Christmas dinner table again,
could you?

Speaker 1 (27:25):
Wow?

Speaker 3 (27:26):
Wow, I'm never going to be the same person that
I was before we did this. And this is maybe
why we stopped doing this segment.

Speaker 1 (27:30):
I think it was I would get the ear.

Speaker 2 (27:32):
Let's like knut this out for a second, not the
right term, let's not not this out. I would get
the eck if I found like my partner secretly sniffing
my sex toys like that.

Speaker 3 (27:41):
Yeah, if you found out the bend sniff just sex toys,
you'd have the eck from him?

Speaker 1 (27:45):
Would you leave it? If there was a camera in
my room.

Speaker 2 (27:47):
It's different if like you were getting into it and
he was using the sex toys and you're in it
and then he like licked it for some I don't
know if it was. If that was a thing, you'd
be like, okay, like I get that that's maybe a
sexual kink. But it's different when it's like a sea,
like if there was a secret.

Speaker 1 (28:01):
Or what I think you saw that if you.

Speaker 2 (28:03):
Saw Matt creeping in when you went there getting that
butt plug off?

Speaker 1 (28:07):
That don't have a butt plug, but thank you? What
was what was on? Yeah? You had a butt plug? Cockering? Oh, cockery, okay,
cock good for him if you saw.

Speaker 3 (28:15):
Him that wouldn't give you the earn not really, ill
just be a bit like why we washed it afterwards?
It smells like dead ole. Wll just sniff that the
detle's downstairs in the cuppet.

Speaker 1 (28:26):
Go sniff the deadoles. Continue on.

Speaker 3 (28:30):
One time I was dating this guy who I know
had cheated on me, So I did a dump in
his kitty litter tray.

Speaker 1 (28:36):
Oh I got the same one.

Speaker 2 (28:38):
No, actually, mine wasn't cheating. I took a dump in
the guy I was seeing cat little box? Why, I
asked her, I love, I'm really following up on the confessional?

Speaker 5 (28:48):
Whoa?

Speaker 2 (28:48):
I said, I need context? Why were you breaking up?
Was the toileting use? She said, oh, my gosh. Well,
we were slipping together on and off, and fast forward
eight months in and we were back to being on again.
And I was trying to keep up the sex appeal,
and so instead of making a massive splash in the
toilet bowl when I took a shit, I thought it
would be better to do it in the catty little box.

Speaker 3 (29:09):
In the kitty little box, that's no, none of that
makes sense.

Speaker 2 (29:13):
I decided that it wouldn't make any noise. So off
I went and took a shit there while he was asleep.
I put some of the litter on top.

Speaker 1 (29:20):
Left it. No, she left it.

Speaker 2 (29:23):
Why wouldn't you put it in the toilet with the
scoot She put the litter on top and just covered it.

Speaker 1 (29:27):
I'm sorry, a cat doesn't do a human size shit.
He's gone to know, well, she reckons.

Speaker 2 (29:33):
He woke up the next morning, saw it, picked it
up with gloves, was like, well, that's a big poo,
and then.

Speaker 1 (29:38):
Put it in the bin. She reckons. He didn't know.
How big is your cat? Is it a lion? If
it's doing a poo like a human sized poos can't
be true? Sometimes I it's true.

Speaker 3 (29:49):
Sometimes I feel self conscious about Buster because Bustard.

Speaker 1 (29:52):
This is too much information.

Speaker 3 (29:53):
Buster's poos are so gigantic that they look like a
human pooh, And like every so often if there's one
in the backyard or something, I worry that a visitor
is going to think I've just gone out and had
a nature pooh.

Speaker 4 (30:03):
If I had any friend that I would think would
do that, it was probably me, probably bushpoo.

Speaker 3 (30:09):
All right, Okay, Next one, I wipe my son's toilet
training potty with my husband's towel because he is useless
and incapable of doing it.

Speaker 1 (30:19):
No, you should just leave your.

Speaker 3 (30:20):
Husband just if you're putting shit on your No, I
think what you do, because like when you have a
kid's potty, you just rinse it and then you tip
it into the toilet, so there's no there's no poo
or Wii in it, but it's just like the water
is in it, but it's obviously contaminated. It's definitely not clean,
no dead all in that yet, and she's just then
wiped the inside out.

Speaker 1 (30:36):
With his towel.

Speaker 3 (30:37):
You should just if you feel that strongly about your husband, like,
leave him.

Speaker 1 (30:40):
I think or got a therapy. This one's sad. He
just keeps getting pink eye infections and wondering why.

Speaker 2 (30:45):
I know after twelve years of faking it. I came
once last year after story. I know, after thirty minutes
of oral sex, and now I'm just obsessed.

Speaker 1 (30:54):
We're good for you.

Speaker 3 (30:56):
What do you mean you're obsessed with with coming? So
it's like something just got unlocked.

Speaker 1 (31:00):
No, it's only happened once.

Speaker 4 (31:02):
I think to me, I read that's like I understand
that as for the first time it happened, and now
I'm obsessed with it.

Speaker 1 (31:09):
So I think such ones because twelve years says a
long time, so big faking commitment. Also, did you tell
him after twelve years that that was the first time?
You probably know. He's like, that's different, what happened. He's like,
why are you screaming?

Speaker 3 (31:22):
He's a different person, potentially good for you. Maybe maybe
we're happy that you're living your best life. When I
was a kid, I accidentally sat on my friend's guinea
pig and I killed it. I never told her the truth,
and I acted totally dumb when she found it. She's
lived with this lie her whole life.

Speaker 1 (31:37):
You sat on a guinea pig. I think you have
to live with that lie. Yeah, if it's a complete accident.

Speaker 2 (31:43):
Have you heard mich Chury's story did like our radio Migury,
he had a pet guinea pig, and he decided that
he wanted it to be free, like live freely, which
is great in theory in terms of like it was
a free range guinea pig. That's not wild animals though,
No in cages, no, But he wanted it to feel
like it was free. So he built like a huge

(32:05):
area in their backyard for it so that it felt
like it was a free range guinea pig. But they
didn't put a canopy on it, so they just put
a little fence around the outside, had no ceiling, and
they were watching it out the back one day and
they watched it happen live. A hawk, like a seahawk
eagle came down and just picked it up and took
it away in front of him.

Speaker 1 (32:21):
Was like trauma, Tace. I was like, what did you
think was gonna happen when you had a free range
guinea pig? You were asking for.

Speaker 2 (32:29):
It anyway, Rest in peace, Okay, my accident, baby, wasn't
an accident.

Speaker 1 (32:33):
I did it on purpose. No, No, that's no very bad.
Did you can't? Baby?

Speaker 3 (32:39):
Well, I mean, like, you can't baby trap someone and
then expect them to be you did.

Speaker 1 (32:43):
Don't know what me. She said, it was the best
decision she ever made.

Speaker 3 (32:47):
Okay, I put laxatives in my boss's coffee every single
day because I can't stand the guy. Imagine your pa
putting laxatives in your coffee and thinking you've got something
wrong with your bad.

Speaker 2 (32:58):
I probably think they were bell cancer or you've just
made him regular.

Speaker 1 (33:02):
And so when you stop being his pa, he's going
to be super constipated and wondering why.

Speaker 2 (33:06):
No.

Speaker 3 (33:06):
I think that man's got loose bows at about eleven
o'clock every day and he doesn't know why what's happening here.

Speaker 2 (33:12):
I want to finish with the rankest one, and then
we're gonna save and we're gonna have to save some
because they're too discussing. I know this is bad, but
when I was an apprentice sixteen, me and the other
apprentice used to chop up our toenails and add it
to our really mean managers to bully lunch.

Speaker 1 (33:29):
She never found out. She just thought it was crunchy. Nah, Nah,
you would know.

Speaker 3 (33:35):
You would not know if you cut up to bully.

Speaker 1 (33:39):
It's a toe Bully were speaking of mass confessionals.

Speaker 4 (33:47):
There was something that happened this week on the show
that I'm actually still not one hundred percent sure how
i feel about it in my own relationship, and I
wanted to ask both of you how you kind of
conduct yourselves in this situation.

Speaker 1 (33:57):
Have you asked your partner to rank you by photo?
Did you hear photos? Laura and kiss Mary? Fuck kill?
What you really?

Speaker 3 (34:07):
We would pick if you really want to blow up
your relationship, just print off photos of all your friends
and ask your partner to rank you.

Speaker 1 (34:14):
See how it goes?

Speaker 4 (34:15):
Well, This actually came off of the back of that
insane like how can we be at season twelve and
they don't know how to do fake it? Fake it,
fake it, fake it, Zip your fucking mouth shut and
just do what you know is right.

Speaker 3 (34:28):
Right, Well, we actually had a really if you guys
didn't hear it so on the weekend's pick up episode
that would have dropped on Saturday.

Speaker 1 (34:35):
Like literally just a couple of days past.

Speaker 3 (34:37):
If you haven't listened to that, go back and have
a listen, because we interviewed John Aiken and one of
the experts, Yes, expert relationship expert. Obviously there's a lot
of what's the right word because it's not controversial, but
a lot of people have some very strong opinions around
the experts and why they pair the peoples together, you know,
the different personalities.

Speaker 1 (34:57):
I think it is.

Speaker 2 (34:57):
Controversial, Like I definitely felt it was sometimes, And I
even said to John, I'm like, surely you're not doing
this thinking that they're gonna work out.

Speaker 5 (35:05):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (35:05):
Absolutely, And it's like, how can you, as someone who
is and does work as a psychiatrist or even as
a counselor, like consciously and morally pair people together when
it seems as though they're just going to destroy each other? Like,
surely that that is just a conflict of interest in
terms of what you do for work. John had a
very interesting take on the ranking of people and how

(35:26):
it really highlights someone's emotional EQ. And it's like it
is the writing on the wall for that relationship and
the writing on the wall for whether that person understands
the process of that experiment, right, Because it's like it
may take you quite a while to figure out someone's EQ,
but that he's like it's like black and white. If
they've ranked you low down, you know, straight away that

(35:46):
they are someone who is like going to be so
challenging for you to maintain or navigate a relationship with.
He's like and most couples just don't ever recover from
that understandable. Interesting, it's kind of like a fast way
to figure out that there's shit that you've been yeah,
match with like a shit dude. Well, actually that is
exactly what happened with this particular couple I'm talking about,
So Ashley and Jake, they are the ones who were
both teachers, and the story of Jake looked like he

(36:10):
was just this really lovable, kind of geeky pe teacher
who was ready to be in a good relationship.

Speaker 1 (36:16):
And then the way that his character was positioned to.

Speaker 4 (36:20):
Be this really really lovely guy, and then the photo
ranking challenge happened, and the things that he said about
all of these other women just took a cliff dive,
Like it was just like, oh my gosh, was that
like were you hiding or who you were?

Speaker 1 (36:33):
Some of the things that he said about the other women,
which his partner, his wife, Ashley, had a real.

Speaker 4 (36:37):
Issue with, were things like she's got crazy eyes, she
looks like she'd stand at the end of a bed
and murder you in the night, or stand with a
knife or something like. I'm paraphrasing, but you get my point. Basically,
he was talking about all of these women in really
really derogatory ways that were quite strange like and completely unnecessary.

Speaker 1 (36:55):
He could have just said, that's how attractive I think
they are, that's not for me. Yeah.

Speaker 5 (37:00):
Wow.

Speaker 4 (37:00):
Other thing that he said that was deeply problematic was
I'm not racist, but I'm into Caucasians. You know, like
there's a difference between having a preference for a physical
attribute and trying to claim that you're not like racially
motivated to pick a certain person.

Speaker 1 (37:15):
But I don't know.

Speaker 3 (37:16):
I also kind of think in these instances it really
highlights like his behavior and the things he was saying.
He's tried to pass it off as though he was
just making a joke, and I think it shows how
much some people don't understand the line of negging and
it's like, that's not a joke, it's actually really fucking
mean what you've just said. And trying to pass it
off as a joke and telling me that I don't

(37:36):
get your humor. Those excuses don't fly anymore. I think
in terms of relationships, and I think that people are
very aware and when you see it play out on TV,
it really makes you go wow, like he's a flog.

Speaker 1 (37:48):
That's your first reaction to that.

Speaker 4 (37:49):
And exactly like what John said, that actually just shows
me that they have no emotional intelligence. So this thing
happened after the photo ranking challenge. So actually when and
spoke to what I'm assuming was probably her closest friend
on the show in Sierra, and she kind of vented
about what Jake had said, and I am assuming that
she was kind of a bit like, Hey, this really
really fucked up thing just happened, and I need to

(38:10):
talk to someone about it and I need to unpack
it with somebody. What happened the following day was where
I really started to raise my eyebrows because Ashley sat
down with Jake and she basically said to him, Hey,
just so you know, it's obviously going to come up
on the couch with the experts and everyone in the
same room. I did go and talk to Sierra about this,
and her husband Billy was there as well, so I

(38:30):
spoke with both of them about some of the things
that you said in the photo ranking challenge about the
other women. And it was Jake's response that I really
kind of gassed that. And I don't know whether I
don't know whether everyone feels this way, but essentially this
is what he said.

Speaker 2 (38:45):
I am shocked to hear that, you know, my wife's
like talking about Behama back.

Speaker 1 (38:49):
Yeah, in a bit fired up.

Speaker 5 (38:50):
At the moment.

Speaker 2 (38:52):
Syah, fine, I am regretting going and talking to Sierra
and the way I've gone about it.

Speaker 1 (38:58):
Or I'm not someone who like kind of airs the
dirty laundry around.

Speaker 2 (39:05):
I wouldn't do that to her.

Speaker 1 (39:07):
It's knowing that Ashs went behind my back. Yeah, she
broke my trust.

Speaker 4 (39:12):
If you have a situation unfolded within your relationship, is
it okay to go and air the dirty laundry? Is
it okay to talk about the things that you have
a problem with with your friends, or is that being
disloyal to your partner.

Speaker 2 (39:26):
I think that there's two sides to this question, because
what happened in this particular relationship is that she went
and told the people that he was speaking about what
he had said about them. So there's two different things, right, Like,
she's gone and reported that, Hey, my husband said all
these shitty things about you. That's different to going and
unloading on a friend about other issues harshal Yeah, well,

(39:48):
other issues that you might just be having in your relationship.
You know, It's one thing to go and say to
your friend of Ben and I are having these huge
fights at the moment, like he's been doing this.

Speaker 1 (39:57):
I don't agree with this.

Speaker 2 (39:58):
It's another to go and say, hey, Ben said that
he hates you because you're a bitch.

Speaker 1 (40:04):
Do you know what I mean?

Speaker 2 (40:04):
Like, it's different when you're unloading and actually hurting someone's
feelings by telling them what your partner did for me,
that's very evident that she didn't want that relationship to work.
And maybe in that situation it was just a TV situation.
I don't want to just put it all on maps,
but reality TV does make you do things that maybe
you wouldn't have normally done in a relationship that wasn't

(40:25):
being filmed to create a drama.

Speaker 3 (40:27):
I agree with you to some extent, but also when
you think about it, in the closed network of the show,
the only people that she does have to speak to
about something that she's unhappy with in her relationship, if
she needs to confide in someone or she needs to
vent about her partner. The only people that she has
to do that with are other people from the show,
and so she's chosen someone who she thinks is one

(40:47):
of her close friends, who wasn't necessarily the main target
of the things that were said, you know, But I
do think it raises a bigger question because I think
it's normal and natural to speak to your friends when you.

Speaker 1 (41:00):
Are in conflict with your partner.

Speaker 3 (41:01):
You know, it's normal, especially as women, and I don't
want a gender stereotype, but I think it does play
a role. We do talk to our friends when we're
feeling that there's conflict in our relationships. But there is
a line as to how much do you share and
are you sharing it because you're frustrated or are you
sharing it because you're trying to paint them in a
certain way. But I also think that it can come
down to this idea of like, you can overshare to

(41:24):
your friends about your partner, and sometimes if you are
an oversharing type personality type, you may be inclined to
overshare on the negative things because they're the stuff that
you need to talk about more, They're the things that
you need to vent about. And then I guess like,
where is the line between when it's venting and it
turns into what feels like or might feel like character
assassination if you were the partner to be the you know,

(41:46):
the fly on the wall in that situation, I think
it is very healthy and normal to talk to your
friends about your relationship grievances. However, I also think that
if you were on the flip side of it and
it was you found out that your partner had been
sharing that information, you would also feel a level of hurt.
So there has to be some understanding of Okay, how

(42:09):
would they feel if they knew that I was saying
xyz am I reporting on my biased side of this
argument what I felt was the case from this argument,
am I painting them in a way that makes them
look like a total asshole when they're not a total asshole?
I think that there are all questions because it depends
on what's being done right. Like I mean, I know
that for example, when I was going through my ex

(42:31):
situation where I was getting cheated on and everything else,
a manipulation tool that was used in that relationship was
to make me feel bad for talking to my sister
or to my mom about the fact that he cheated
on me because he was like, well, now your family
are gonna hate me.

Speaker 1 (42:47):
Why did you tell your mom?

Speaker 3 (42:48):
Because now I can never go and see your family
get at Christmas time or whatever because they're going to
hate me. And at the time, I had this real
sense of guilt because I was like, fuck. Now now
like yeah, my parents and my family are angry at him,
and my friends are angry at him, and now we're
never going to be able to be this cohesive friendship group.
But looking at it now that I'm out of that relationship,
I'm like, oh no, that was accountability for your actions,

(43:10):
Like you had toxic behavior. You did really bad things
in that relationship, and you would punish me when I
spoke about it to my friends because it made you
look bad.

Speaker 2 (43:19):
I also think you can fall into a trap of
only sharing the negatives of a relationship and then your friends.
I mean, your friends are always going to be biased.
They're always going to take your side and be understanding
of what you're saying. They're going to relate to situations
that you might have been into the past, but those
situations with people close to you are biased. They're going
to ninety percent of the time made that statistic up.

(43:41):
Most of the time, they're going to take your side
unless they are going to be really objective, which doesn't
happen often. When a friend comes to you and they
want to vent and they want to talk about something
shitty that someone has said or done, you're always going
to be like, I totally feel you, I hear you.
They're going to be a great person. So I think
you have to be really careful to sort of like
compliment sound when you're in a way like make sure
that you are sharing the good things as well, unless

(44:03):
there aren't any good things, and then maybe you do
need to hear some tough love from your friend. But
you need to be careful who you pick and what
you share. I think there are different friends and family
members for different things.

Speaker 1 (44:14):
Yeah, totally.

Speaker 4 (44:14):
I actually agree with that, and I'm trying to think
about that in my own situation. I am very much
the type of person who feels like I need to
talk with my friends when I have issues. But I
think it's because I am fortunate enough, and both of
you have done this quite a number of times for me.
I don't think that you give me particularly biased takes,
you know, I know that you have my best interests
at heart. And so both of you have said things

(44:36):
to me before where you've kind of been like, yeah,
but maybe this is where he was coming from, or
maybe you should think about it from this particular perspective,
or could this have been what he meant? And that's
actually been really really helpful for me. I think the
one thing that I've tried to be careful of, and
this is only because I've done it wrong before and
had to then learn from that, is picking people to

(44:59):
talk two who are not going to hold onto that
grudge with your partner.

Speaker 1 (45:04):
If you do repair things. You know, there's some like
some friends.

Speaker 3 (45:08):
Who it depends on what the thing is, it does,
depends on how bad it is, It depends on what
the grievance is because sometimes, you know, sometimes we're in
relationships and we can forgive. But it takes our friends
who have seen the hurt and seen the damage that
that person cause a lot longer to forgive because I
don't know, I mean, they don't have as much skin
in the game. They don't understand why there's this forgiveness there,

(45:29):
and they've seen or heard all the bad things. They've
been there for all the crying and the discussions around
like what it was that I kept saying, Hey, but
you know, it's obviously works both sides, but whatever it
is that they've done, and then it's like this emotional
whiplash from your friends as well that they have.

Speaker 1 (45:44):
To be like, cool, right now, we're okay again. I
guess you're a good guy.

Speaker 2 (45:47):
It is a double edged sword, though, because when you
flip it and put yourself in the situation. If you
have a really big fight with your partner and then
he goes and tells his friends and or his family
and he tells you, my initial response will be like,
why did you go and tell everyone? Now they're all
going to hate me. So I understand from both sides,
but there is an aspect of everyone in a relationship
needs to understand that it is not healthy and it

(46:10):
is not natural and normal to keep everything to yourself
like that is an impossible ask of any situation. Everyone
is going to share something with one person.

Speaker 1 (46:19):
Even I believe this.

Speaker 2 (46:20):
I genuinely believe this. People that say I promise I
will never tell a soul a secret, they're lying. Every
single person will tell.

Speaker 1 (46:28):
Someone the time.

Speaker 3 (46:30):
Sorry, sorry, no, do you know what I mean, I
agree with what you're saying. I do think that people
can keep secrets. I know, let me finish that, but
I think you should be smart enough to think that
maybe they won't because there will be secrets that you
tell someone in life and they are so incredibly trustworthy
that they don't share it with another person. But the
problem is is that often they tell one person that

(46:52):
they think is trustworthy, and the issue is that they're
a little bit removed from the promise, and so then
they can tell someone else and then that that's how
it spreads, is because there's this like lack of feeling
as though that they have a sense of responsibility to
the promise that was made.

Speaker 2 (47:08):
Well, there's loads of research on it. It could be
really interesting to talk about it all. There's loads of
research on the fact that it's almost impossible for someone
to keep a secret like and not share it in
some capacity to feel a weight, even if it's with
their closest person that they trust, they loved one or
their partner, or they have to write it down in
a journal to feel like they're not carrying the weight
of it.

Speaker 5 (47:25):
Like.

Speaker 2 (47:25):
There's a lot of research to say that not many
people can literally like have the same I'll take it
to the grave.

Speaker 3 (47:30):
Hence why we now have confessionals back for you to
all absolve yourself if your sins. I have a like
an experience that happened to me and Matt when we
were away in Fiji. I think it was with my
sister and my brother in law. It was like our honeymoon,
but we went away on like it was kind of
like a honeymoon or my sister's fortieth all kind of
merged in together. When you've got kids, it's kind of different.

(47:51):
You don't you don't get to celebrate the normal milestones
that you might do if you do things in like
the traditional linear pattern. So we were away and we
had like a little tip over something that was nothing,
but I was a bit pissed off at Matt. I
can't remember what it was, but in the scheme of things,
it was just like we just annoyed each other really
and I'd gone into the bedroom to ask my sister
something and I was like, I just like had a.

Speaker 1 (48:12):
Moan about him. I was like, oh, fucking Matt, blah blah.

Speaker 3 (48:14):
Blah, whatever it was, and I was very much in
the wrong. It was an unnecessary moment for me to vent.
It was not going to be a long stemming issue
in our relationship. He just pissed me off and I
could have gotten over it, and I didn't really have
to tell anyone, but I chose to, and I told
my sister and Matt overhurt and he was.

Speaker 1 (48:37):
He was so hurt.

Speaker 3 (48:38):
He called me aside and he was like, Hey, I
know you're mad at me. He's like, but what you
just did is so much worse. He's like, you just
painted me in a certain way to your sister. We're
all on holidays together, Like, why make me sound like
I'm an asshole?

Speaker 1 (48:52):
He's like, what are you going to gain from that?
And he absolutely was right.

Speaker 3 (48:56):
But in my defense, I'm like, as my sister, of
course I complained to I complained about every do.

Speaker 1 (49:00):
It every day.

Speaker 3 (49:01):
You just don't know, you know, exact literally, And it
was it was a real like kind of like him
holding up a mirror to the fact that sometimes the complaining,
we just do it because it's making conversation. It's not
actually something that's necessary. It doesn't necessarily move the relationship forward.
And so I think that it's being aware of like
where that line is absolutely have the big conversations that

(49:23):
you need to vent and get off your chest. But
if you're just bitching about your partner, to bitch about
them like that really erodes someone's well one, if they
find out about it, it roads their fucking trust in you.
But secondly, it erodes that person's opinion of your partner.
And that sucks as well, because that's amazing and I
would hate to ever influence Alicia's opinion of him.

Speaker 1 (49:41):
Yeah, but I think I don't know.

Speaker 2 (49:42):
My opinion on that is, I actually think it's okay
that that you were complaining about something insignificant to the
closest person in your life.

Speaker 1 (49:49):
The problem is he heard it. Are you just.

Speaker 2 (49:53):
And I don't want to say, like bitch behind people's backs,
but like, it's do it better if you complain. If
that was me in that situation and you complained about
something insignificant, it doesn't change my opinion of Matt.

Speaker 1 (50:04):
I'm just like, yeah, feel's girl, Like, you know, we
all go through it.

Speaker 2 (50:07):
It's just unfortunate that Matt heard that and then that
escalated the situation. I just think it's truly impossible for
everyone or anyone to live a life and have a
relationship and being those situations where you've never been about
your partner. There are no two humans in the entire
world that don't annoy each other in a relationship, or
don't have issues, or don't have roadblocks. It's a natural

(50:27):
part of a relationship. I think it's just you've got
to be careful of the frequency who you're doing it too.

Speaker 1 (50:33):
Are they going to find out?

Speaker 3 (50:35):
But also I think it's about be selective about what
you share. Yeah, I think that that would be the
other thing.

Speaker 4 (50:39):
Can I give my take on this particular situation because
Jakes ended up leaving the show like because he was
basically held accountable. The reason I had such a reaction
to it is because of exactly what you discussed about
your ex boyfriend, who was questioning why you would go
and talk to your mum and your sister about, you know,
the cheating.

Speaker 1 (50:56):
Oh yeah, it's a manipulation technique.

Speaker 4 (50:58):
I actually thought that this was incredibly manipulated. These people
have been married on a show, you know, like they
haven't known each other for very long, so it's not
like she would have seen the warning signs of him
actually being like this for very long. I think They've
known each other for like three weeks by this point,
so I think it was incredibly reasonable for her to
need to go and talk to someone about it because
of how confronting the things that he had said were.

(51:19):
And so him flipping that and being like, wow, you
really broke my trust. I'm like, you do only have
three weeks worth of trust built, so trust yet she's
actually just so like, she's finding you so abrasive because
of what you've said. And I thought, no, that was
you not being accountable for the things that you'd said.
And I think that that's why he ended up leaving
the show, because he didn't want to take accountability for it,

(51:41):
and he was held accountable by everyone in the room
and the three experts, and I think that that was
why I was like, oh, no, she had a rewrite
to go and talk to someone about that because she
was so confronted by it, and now you flipped it.
And then I started to think, well, when this happens
in my relationship, am I doing the wrong thing by
going and talking to you guys about it whenever I
have problems? Like I wasn't sure whether that was me

(52:03):
actually doing the wrong thing, but I guess it's one
of those situations where it kind of depends on what's
happened and who you're talking to. Ah Maths providing the
never ending source of like what not to do in
your relationships.

Speaker 2 (52:14):
A lot of people seem to be like making some
hasty exits on Maths this season.

Speaker 1 (52:18):
I think they're interesting. I don't think they've had these
many mass exits. Yeah, I don't know.

Speaker 4 (52:22):
I feel as though it's like what they're in the
twelfth season now. I think that people are clocking onto
the fact that you know, they're going to be made
out to be their villain, and so instead of staying
around and being able to be torn to shreds, they're
kind of like just cutting their losses and going I'm out.

Speaker 3 (52:38):
Yeah. But it's interesting because up until other seasons, everyone's
always been like, why don't these people just leave? And
then they're like I have to stay on the couch,
and it's got to be like, you know, two stays
and everyone's got to be in unison. But now it's
like people are not abiding by the Maths rules anymore
and they're just leaving whenever the fuck they want to leave,
which would be an absolute producer nightmare for how to
run this show, but it does make it interesting. Three

(52:59):
men have gone yeah only man, Well, there'd be more
in store anyway. Guys, it is time for our suck
and sweets of the week. What is your suck, Brittany,
my suck is this?

Speaker 1 (53:13):
Don't come for me. It's so top level.

Speaker 2 (53:15):
But I ordered a huge, extra large tub of ice
cream delivered to my house, like it's.

Speaker 1 (53:21):
What I do. It's just what I do.

Speaker 2 (53:22):
You probably saw my stories, but they're pretty expensive. It
was like fifty bars for the proper ice cream from
like the Messinas and Anitas, you know, like the luxurious
ice cream for a tub.

Speaker 1 (53:32):
Now delivery, it's fifty bars for like a one leader tub. Well,
I'm sorry it is one point five, of course it was.
But also that's fucking madness.

Speaker 2 (53:40):
So I yep, I ordered it, and I made the
decision to go try a new flavor that I didn't like,
and I well that I didn't like it.

Speaker 1 (53:48):
I didn't like it. I thought i'd love it. I
got it fifty bucks. I went hard.

Speaker 2 (53:51):
I got half a tub worth of the same one,
and I didn't like it. So I was pretty upset
by that.

Speaker 1 (53:55):
That's devastating. It is devastating, top level, top level devastating.

Speaker 3 (53:58):
I would have thought that your suck would have being
that like truly horrific video you posted on your Instagram
of you just like smacking Craig in the face with
your butt again.

Speaker 1 (54:06):
My dance partner with a butt. It was with a badge.

Speaker 3 (54:09):
Yeah, sorry, I was trying to be a bit more diplomatic,
but yeah, sure with the fight.

Speaker 2 (54:12):
But I did get stuck around my crutch, got stuck
around my dance partner's neck.

Speaker 1 (54:16):
Yes, And I.

Speaker 2 (54:17):
Happened deliberately, not deliberately. I did happen to have it
on film. It's on my Instagram if you missed it.
That's actually my sweet And I say that because I'm
having so much fun dancing. The fails of my dancing
are the funnest part. Like I'm just I'm just laughing
so much. I'm going to training and I'm sore and
i'm bad at we're bruised, but we're trying all these

(54:38):
new things, all these lips that you're supposed to be
able to do, and they're not working. And I love
it because I can't stop laughing, Like I'm just in hysterics.

Speaker 1 (54:45):
I haven't laughed so much.

Speaker 2 (54:46):
In so long, and I know that, well, I don't know.
I have high hopes I'm going to get them.

Speaker 1 (54:50):
Before the show. I have high hopes I'm going to
get them.

Speaker 2 (54:54):
We're really practicing hard, and there's been a few times
that we are getting them. It's just not happening every
time at the moment. But I love the fails, like
they're my favorite part of the dance pactic.

Speaker 1 (55:03):
It's also just.

Speaker 3 (55:03):
Really cool to like do something completely new as an
adult and try a new skill and like and get
good at something that you actually find challenging. That was
probably the biggest thing that I loved about Dancing with
the Stars. I was like, this is not easy for me,
and it feels really challenging, and I enjoy getting better
at it. Like I'm not good, but it was like
it was, I don't know, I really loved it. Yeah,
I'm having the time of my life and I'm really

(55:25):
trying to okay. I read an article that Zendea wrote recently,
and did you I don't know if you guys saw it,
So did you know Zendea was on Dancing with the Stars.

Speaker 1 (55:33):
Yeah, like she's done like loads of seasons. Yeah, she did.
She was sixteen. She have you seen her dances?

Speaker 2 (55:39):
Yeah, she's one of those people that she's incredible.

Speaker 1 (55:42):
Her jive dance is like one of the dances that
went downe in history. It's amazing. Well, I'm amazing. When
I read this article, I was like, Wow, I didn't
know Zendea was on Dancing with the Stars, and I
went and watched her dancing, and I was like, how
did you not win that? She's incredible. She is like
a quadruple threat.

Speaker 2 (55:54):
She's a model, she sings, she's beautiful, she's nice, she's
an actor. She dances like she's incredible. Anyway, it's something
that she wrote in the article because she was sixteen.

Speaker 1 (56:02):
She wrote the article.

Speaker 2 (56:03):
Recently is like reflecting back, and she said, I wish
I had fun on it. She's like, I didn't have fun.
I took it so seriously and you get so stressed
about competing and being in it and nailing it and
not getting the move. She's like, I wish I just
went back and enjoyed it for what it was really fun,
time to learn something new, to dance, to enjoy, like
dancing is incredible. And so because I read that I'm

(56:24):
looking at it differently, like it's a competition. Of course
I want to win the Mirror Ball, but I don't
even have that in mind. Every day I'm like, this
is one opportunity that I'll never get to do again,
and I just want to enjoy it. It's a better
process now because I'm not stressing because I get really
anxious in competitions. I'm a competitive person, but I don't
enjoy competition, if that makes sense. Like I want to

(56:44):
do the best I can do, but it gives me
wild anxiety thinking that people are going out being like
I'm going to smash her, like I'm good, you know, Like.

Speaker 3 (56:51):
No one doing Dancing with the Stars is thinking I'm
going to smash her.

Speaker 1 (56:54):
No, it hasn't. No Harry. So I watched Harry's story.

Speaker 2 (56:58):
So Harry has been released on Dancing Stars and the
other day I carry you Harry.

Speaker 1 (57:02):
He's a boxer.

Speaker 2 (57:03):
I saw Harry's story and it really scared me because
he's like he was like I'm coming for you guys,
Like whoever's.

Speaker 1 (57:10):
On doing like the fight shit.

Speaker 2 (57:11):
Yeah, but it was it was funny, like he wasn't
being mean or anything, but he was like there's been
some other people released on dancing like I'm coming for you.
We're coming for you dogs and he said dog like
and I was like, oh my god, he's.

Speaker 1 (57:20):
Coming for me.

Speaker 5 (57:21):
I'm the only other person released. And then I got
wild anxiety because I was like, he's coming. So I
don't like competition like that, but yeap. So that's my
stuck in my sweet Well.

Speaker 3 (57:31):
My stuck for the week is I had a really
hectic night with Lola last night. It took me to
two and a half hours to get home to bed
and a few screaming matches.

Speaker 1 (57:39):
Britt, you were on the phone for some of it.
I did witness it.

Speaker 3 (57:42):
I brit called me yesterday and I was like, sorry,
I've just been sitting outside under the sprinklot and it
was like what, just.

Speaker 1 (57:48):
Like, are you okay? Do you need the dog?

Speaker 3 (57:50):
And I just needed I was It was such a
hot day in Sydney and I needed to escape the
kids for a bit. I'd put them to bed and
I was like, I wanted so bad to go for
a swim, but I didn't get to the beach and
so I was like, okay, I'm just going to go
and sit under the hose and It was probably the
best ten minutes of the day.

Speaker 1 (58:05):
I did have a mental image for what it was
going to look like. Everyone didn't look good and I
didn't even put Swimmerson.

Speaker 3 (58:10):
I just sat in my underwear and my bra and
nickers in my backyard under the sprinkler.

Speaker 1 (58:13):
Yeah. I was like, wow, is this where we are
in life?

Speaker 3 (58:15):
No, it was a really hard night just trying to
get the kids into bed and it went on for
over two hours of non stop repetitive yelling in protest
about wanting to go to bed.

Speaker 1 (58:27):
So that was a tricky night. Did you try mooning her? Yeah,
that's what you should have mooned her to a room.

Speaker 3 (58:33):
Not having anyone to tag team with when the parenting
gets hard is really really full on. And then my
highlight for the week is that Mary had her first
day of school. So Marley's been to school for two
days now and she absolutely blitzed her. She's so brave,
she's so confident.

Speaker 1 (58:49):
Oh and now it's her reward, She's going to South
Afrigona is two days. I'm putting out, you're a child genius.

Speaker 2 (58:55):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (58:55):
But she did really, really well, and I had like
some learning reading tests and stuff, and she blitzed it
because she's like a little child genius, and yeah, it
was just it was really sweet.

Speaker 1 (59:04):
And then getting there in the afternoon to pick her up.

Speaker 3 (59:06):
Although to all the moms out there who had to
deal with like the shorter hours of so like kinder
for the first week or two is like starts at
nine thirty and finishes at two thirty. So you get
to work, you've literally just done a few emails, and
then you're back at the school to pick them up again.

Speaker 2 (59:19):
I don't understand how so many people can physically do that,
like nine people with nine to five jobs.

Speaker 1 (59:24):
That's asking a lot. No, they can't.

Speaker 3 (59:25):
But you have to just like figure this week at
school out right, like you just make you make sacrifices.
You tell work that you got to finish early for
a week because you've got to pick your kids up.
But I came into school and she was so excited
when she walked out of her little classroom with her
teacher and everything, and she was sitting there with hat
on that they'd made and they'd colored it in and
had like my first day of KINDI so just the
cutest thing I've ever.

Speaker 1 (59:46):
Seen, wholesome.

Speaker 3 (59:47):
Yeah, and then I cried, So I love that so
cute in the car by myself, like really cruel, we not.
I No, it's like just a tiny baby. And now
she's at school. Yeah, that's it.

Speaker 1 (59:57):
Occasionally you look like you're going to cry. She's just
so cute.

Speaker 4 (01:00:00):
I have such a Sorry La Laurie, I love you too,
but I have such a soft spot for Miley May.
I just think she's such a beautiful little girl. And
like I was at your house a couple of weeks
ago and I was like, show me your school uniform,
and she was like running me through. This is my
dress and then this is the winter one, and like
this is what I'm gonna wear, and she's talking.

Speaker 1 (01:00:17):
Me through like she'sself ready for it.

Speaker 3 (01:00:20):
And also, like I think because she started a little
bit later, like you know you can when they're like
on that cusp between five or six, so like no,
four or five, she said, when she's five.

Speaker 1 (01:00:28):
She's not six, but she was just so ready.

Speaker 3 (01:00:30):
So so like she ran into school like she was
so excited and her little buddy was waiting there for a.

Speaker 5 (01:00:37):
Kill me.

Speaker 1 (01:00:37):
Anyway, guys, that is it from us. Hopefully I'll be
in the African jungle. But who knows.

Speaker 3 (01:00:42):
Good luck, Go vote for mad This is the last
time I'm going to say it.

Speaker 1 (01:00:46):
Actually, do another. No, it's the last one. I'm not
gonna say it again. Please please please. We did say
it this much for you. Don't worry. No, we said
it every single episode for you.

Speaker 2 (01:00:58):
Yeah, I'm all about it, but also I think it's
the last time today.

Speaker 1 (01:01:02):
Hey, everyone, please vote for Matt. We'll link in the notes.
And you know, the droum keep saying you're accident unfiltered
in and you're confessionals.

Speaker 2 (01:01:09):
Anything that you want us to know will always give
you anonymous Send it to Instagram and just put at
the top like ask gun card or confessional, whatever it is.

Speaker 1 (01:01:15):
We can put them into a nice, tidy little pile. Yeah,
give us a review.

Speaker 3 (01:01:19):
If you haven't reviewed us, don't don't give us a
two review, Like that'd be me.

Speaker 1 (01:01:25):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:01:25):
It's interesting when people sometimes write amazing reviews, like the
review is incredible. The reviews are like, couldn't love this more?
Love the girls love every episode. Then you get like
a two star it's.

Speaker 1 (01:01:35):
Because they've hit the wrong button.

Speaker 4 (01:01:36):
And we got one recently that said something along the
lines of I just want to be best friends with
all of you and it was forced up.

Speaker 1 (01:01:46):
I was like, what does it take to get the
food once?

Speaker 2 (01:01:50):
What is It's so funny but anyway, leaves a review
only if it's good.

Speaker 1 (01:01:53):
And don't forget to you, m Tay Dad tell you Doug.
Tear friends and share the love because we love love.

Speaker 4 (01:02:01):
Bakamada Bagabata, Baba Bakamade
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