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Speaker 1 (00:00):
This episode was recorded on cameragle Land. Hi guys, and
welcome back to another episode of Life Uncut.
Speaker 2 (00:09):
I'm Brittany and I'm Laura, and this is our radio
show all packaged up in a cute, tight little bundle.
Speaker 1 (00:15):
It's the highlights of the week. We have a national
radio show.
Speaker 2 (00:18):
If you are new to the podcast, welcome, But this
is the radio show version, not the normal podcast episode.
Speaker 1 (00:24):
So if you're super confused, just go and listen to
Wednesday's app. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (00:28):
Hey, I loved one of the chats today. We were
speaking to Lipstick Investigations, which is it's like an investigation.
Speaker 1 (00:36):
We're speaking to a woman behind it, Natalia, and her.
Speaker 2 (00:38):
Job is she gets hired to go on like track
people and find out if they're cheating.
Speaker 1 (00:43):
And I think it's so fascinating. I always like, I mean,
I'm not going to say I ever entertained the idea,
but I always thought about it when I was surprised. No,
of course not. But like when you're getting cheated on
and you're not sure if it's truth or not, like
your brain goes to some pretty crazy places to try
and uncover the truth flat out. Yeah, I always say,
like I'm just busy. I always say, like, there's no
(01:05):
better detective than like a woman scorned. Natalie is not
even scorned, she's just doing the work for the people
who have been or a woman that's paid by a
woman scorned. Yeah, but also interestingly because there's this real
advantage about the fact that she is a woman working
in this industry, being a private investigator, because mostly it's
a male dominated industry. And she said it's really easy
for her to get into night clubs and to be
(01:25):
able to follow men around and go relatively undetected. It's
fascinating to me the reasons why people get a private
investigator and feel the need to.
Speaker 2 (01:35):
But it's weird to me to think, like you could
just be like walking out of your house to work
and there's someone following you that you have no idea.
Like when you put it like that, does it make
it okay because you've paid someone.
Speaker 1 (01:44):
It's also crazy that that can be legal. But that's
what happens with paparazzi, right, Like totally, I mean an investor,
a private investigator could be following you. You might have
no idea. For people who work in media or who
you know are relative celebrities, you could walk out in the
front of your house and not know that someone's following you,
or you could be walking on the street with your
kids and have some dude hiding in the bushes taking
photos of you. Like it's all weird, all of it.
(02:05):
But as long as you're in a public setting, it's
so fine for these people to film and to kind
of document what it is that you're doing.
Speaker 2 (02:11):
Yeah, and I was surprised how many people actually take
her up on it, Like, I knew that you'd be busy,
but I didn't think this should be like proper flat
out and I knew people would consider it like you
know what, you never know it, Yeah, you don't think
that many people go through with it and actually hand over
the money and go and investigate.
Speaker 1 (02:26):
But it's yea fascinating chat. Well look, if you thought
that was shocking, let me tell you something else that's
really going to get you going. Have you guys seen
the new It's a new TV show called the Floor.
It's like a game show where they have flash cards
that show up and you've got to answer all the
questions on the flash car. So basically like name whatever
it is on the flash car, like quick Speed trivia, yes,
rapid fire yea. And I've discovered that I'm very good
(02:49):
at bird names. It's a skill and I never knew
I needed it. I never knew it would come in handy.
I'm not convinced. I didn't even know I was good
at bird names, but I'm pretty good at telling and talking.
Speaker 2 (02:59):
About Yep, you nailed the cook a barrel or congratulations.
Speaker 1 (03:02):
No, it was the Kingfish. That's where I really I know,
I know that's where I really look. I came a
little bit unstuck. But you guys will see a skill, technicality,
a skill. You never knew that Laura Byrn had is
birds and I wish that it was something else, but
it's not. Dock. We just lost the listeners or hang around.
I don't know. If they stick through to listen to it,
(03:22):
then we might then. Anyway, guys, it's coming up now.
Speaker 2 (03:26):
Okay, So my entire algorithm online Laura is weddings. No surprise,
I am getting married. So you know, it just becomes
your whole life, like everything you get fed.
Speaker 1 (03:34):
Yeah, mine is just babies and birth videos. As soon
as Instagram realized that I was pregnant, it was just
spitting out birth interesting. You don't want that on your algorithm.
I've seen enough. Maybe if you give him birth you do,
I've done enough. I love the wedding stuff that's been
fed to me. I absolutely love it. I get for you.
Speaker 2 (03:51):
I get a lot of ideas from it, and I
get a lot of first dances and things like that,
really cute.
Speaker 1 (03:55):
But there is this one that he's going viral on
TikTok at the.
Speaker 2 (03:58):
Moment, and I actually am sugar to my call that
this is a thing that is happening.
Speaker 1 (04:03):
I could not imagine ever doing this to her guest
have listened to this.
Speaker 3 (04:08):
So I am currently sitting in my car and we
have been here literally like a total of fifteen minutes,
and the bride comes up to me and tells me
that my outfit is inappropriate for her wedding. And that
was a supposed dress code that I didn't know existed
(04:28):
because I never got a wedding invitation mailed to my house.
It was a text message that my husband received. But
in twenty twenty five, is this what bride'es do to
the guest?
Speaker 4 (04:39):
Now?
Speaker 2 (04:40):
Okay, So just to set this up a little bit more,
this woman went to this wedding with her husband, and
the invite came through the husband. She drove two hours
to get there with two kids. She never saw a
formal invite. She gets in there.
Speaker 1 (04:54):
Now she's wearing like a three quarter dress, beautiful dress,
but it's not over sumach dress with a pattern.
Speaker 2 (05:00):
It's very geometric of blues, colored blocks and stuff like that.
Like it's very pattern So if the dress code said
no patterns, it's pole opposite to that, right, But she
doesn't even know what the dress code is.
Speaker 1 (05:12):
Within fifteen minutes.
Speaker 2 (05:13):
The bride told her to leave the wedding. I actually
cannot believe the audacity of the bride to do that.
Speaker 1 (05:19):
I have on my wedding.
Speaker 2 (05:21):
My dress code is no big patterns, like big loud patterns,
which would probably include this, to be honest. But I
can hand on heart say, if I arrive and there
is a guest in a pattern or a dress, there
is no part of me there would ever in a
million year's dream of kicking that person out, Like are
your aesthetics more important to you than the.
Speaker 1 (05:41):
People you're supposed to love? You might not kick them out,
but would you bitch about them behind their back? I
would get them to stand off to the side. I'd
be like, could you just stand outside behind a tree?
No way to your mom and you're like, Mom, just
go and stand over there. No look, I mean crazy. Also,
if you're inviting people to your wedding and you care
more about your dress code than the people that are coming,
I think that says a lot about the type wedding
that you want. And it's not about celebrating with your
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family and friends. It's about having the photos for proof afterwards.
Don't get me wrong, I understand that people have dress
codes for a reason. It can be very, very frustrating
when you have a dress code and someone purposefully and
willfully chooses to not abide by it. Like when I
sent you a photo of address and I was like,
I like this one, Britta, and you were like, that's patterned,
and I was like, yeah, that's nice. Though I said
(06:23):
can I wear this? And I said it's a bit
of a pattern but if you want, yeah, that's good.
I lie to that because you left it open, because
what I say is no, do it. No, I'm joking. No.
Speaker 2 (06:33):
I was at a wedding once and I'd love to
know what it would take for you, Laura to ask
someone to not be at your.
Speaker 1 (06:38):
Wedding, Like were honestly nothing. Oh look, if you came
naked to my wedding, I might tell my uncle to
put some pants on. But like, you know, apart from that,
I don't think I had a dress code. Actually I did.
Do you know what went out on our wedding invitation?
That was a dress code sexy? Yeah. So I left
my husband in charge of organizing that side of things,
Like he did the invites and everything, and we did
(06:59):
it on that online wedding platform where like you kind
of feel everything out and it sends out an automated
digital wedding and vibe. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (07:06):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (07:07):
And because we weren't really sure of all the prompts
at the time, Matt went on and he just filled
out like funny shit that he thought would get changed,
and so he wrote dress sexy and that went out
to all our guests.
Speaker 2 (07:18):
And I came with side boob. I had a little
bit of side boob out and I got in trouble.
Laura was like, put your boob away.
Speaker 1 (07:25):
I was like, well, we never got in you look great,
You look great. But it was a fantastic about a
sideboob and look, some people did dress sex with my wedding.
I'm okay with it. I also went backless to look
I understand, and I think this doesn't just go for weddings,
it goes for kind of any event. I think it's
fine to have a dress code if you've got a
certain idea in mind. But if someone rocks up and
they aren't in that dress code, they're probably not going
(07:46):
to feel that comfortable already. They're already probably going to
feel like an outlier or like they got it wrong.
And making and drawing attention to that just makes you
a bit of an asshole, rather than you know, accepting
that you know, okay, well it's not ideal, but it's
not a big deal either. I don't know. For me,
I just think that's yeah. I think it's gross and
I would never, never, ever, ever in my life would
(08:08):
I pull someone up for not dressing a way that
I thought was appropriate. Also, I do not care what
year we are in.
Speaker 2 (08:15):
Ever, you don't send a wedding invitation by a text
message like we are not there yet, And if you
are sending your invites out, stop being so lazy. Online
is fine. Everything is online a text message?
Speaker 1 (08:26):
You know what it makes me know, it makes me
think that he got a formal invite and he had
an RSVP'd, and so the groom sent a text message
to be like, hey, do you come into the wedding.
I would absolutely put money on the fact that a
formal if someone's that anal about their dress code, a
formal invitation went out and that man just did an
RSVP properly. So maybe they were already a bit of
a liability couple. Maybe there's more to this. Get him
(08:49):
on the phone, will follow up next live from the
United States. No, I reckon, there's more to this. Okay,
we'll get our investigators on it now. Britt, Why does
this sound so serious and very ominous? You have been
giving me shtick about something for a shtick. You give
me shtick about something for almost a year now, almost
(09:10):
It could be a multitude of things. I took on
a hobby. I don't know where it came from. I
don't know what sparked it, but about a year ago
I got really into house plans. He did you got this?
Speaker 2 (09:21):
It started slow to be fair, likeet little few plants
crept in and then you're like, oh, let me try
and see if I can cut a stem and propagate
and neck minute, your house is a jungle.
Speaker 1 (09:30):
So I got so deeply obsessed with house plans and
like doing the best by my house plants that I
went online one night. It was like late at night,
and an ad popped up on social media, and it
was an ad for it's called an indoor forest and
it has like all the right lead lights that like
produce the right amount of you know, the right amount
(09:50):
of light to have in your house to keep their
plants healthy. But it's a vertical thing that you install
from the ceiling to the floor. And I haven't even
seen this. Yeah, I know. I bought it. Okay, it arrived.
I'm embarrassed to say how much it cost. And my
husband saw it and he was like enough, He's like,
you can't buy things that take up a whole space
in our house. Give me like ballpark figure nah, no,
(10:13):
barrels under cost me nine hundred dollars. It was like,
oh my god, I am dedicated to the house plants. Okay,
I love them. I care about them. I often on
a weekend sneak out and buy more houseplants. Okay, it's come,
make you send it back. No, he let me keep it,
but we haven't installed it. He's like, it's not anyway,
there's not what you're talking about. We should, we should,
we should, but we won't. Now. I love my houseplants.
(10:36):
I love how therapeutic it was for me that I
discovered this, that it brings me just so much joy.
It's probably the only time when I'm at home on
a weekend and I'm doing my house plans that I
feel as though my brain is at peace, genuinely, and
I think that that's why I love it so much.
I'm happy for you.
Speaker 2 (10:53):
I'm confused where this is going, but I'm glad you
found your piece. Well.
Speaker 1 (10:57):
I came across the study recently and it was there
was no about it. And it's called Grandma hobbies, and
I think I slot, I slot hardcore right in there.
But grandma hobbies are making a comeback. And I'm talking
things like bird watching and clay art and crocheting, things
that you would have thought are uncool because your nana
would have done them back in the day. All the
cool kids are doing him now and guess what one
(11:18):
of them is house plants.
Speaker 2 (11:20):
I'm sorry, Can I tell you what my grandma used
to do? She didn't crochet, she didn't knit, she didn't.
Speaker 1 (11:24):
Do any of that. She just dray whiskey. No, she
raced pigeons.
Speaker 2 (11:30):
When I used to love going to grandma's house because
at the back she had a full avery of homing
pigeons and you would race them. They would have to
do a job, like deliver a letter or something, and
they'd race and then they'd have to come back to you.
Speaker 1 (11:40):
So like I was never exposed to those grandma homes.
That feels way more niche than like knitting, for example,
we're making doilies or whatever. My other one was a
race car driver. She'd fully like I had hectic Where
did you grow up?
Speaker 4 (11:54):
Well?
Speaker 1 (11:54):
I grew up important quarry, but they didn't. I had
have had a very adventurous family. But please please go forth.
What else is coming? Okay? Well, my parents, like my
mom and my grandma, crocheting big in our family. We
were a big family of crochets. Pottery. You know how
everyone these days like signing up to go and do
pottery classes where you sit there and spin a wheel.
Ah love that. But also if you're someone who's been
(12:16):
taking on grandma hobbies, there is now studies and proof
to say just how good that is for your mental health,
so you don't let anyone like Brittany hockleypoop poo it. Okay,
I'm going to tell you that it is a good thing.
You could be going out drinking on a Saturday night,
or you could be at home knit in a blanket.
Speaker 2 (12:29):
Okay, hear me out. I'm not against it. Pottery I
could do. I tried to learn crocheting ones when I
was young. I don't have the patience for it. I
just can't sit still long enough. But one thing that
I found so funny and I hope no one takes
offense by this.
Speaker 1 (12:44):
When I met my fiance Ben, I would look.
Speaker 2 (12:46):
At Ben and think he was really cool, right Like
I was like, okay, he's a giant, Like he's really big,
he's an athlete.
Speaker 1 (12:52):
Is I got a perception of what I thought he
would be and it was it was not reality.
Speaker 2 (12:56):
And in the early days he told me, like growing up,
one of his favorite hobbies and something that he's really
proud of now is is bird watching. Like Ban, my
fiance is a birdwatcher. He loves watching birds. He used
to in his spare time read bird books, and he
has bird books. He knows every bird, he knows their call,
he knows what he's got all these facts because.
Speaker 1 (13:18):
He let go out on like an exhibition of bird watching.
He doesn't take binoculars with him. Of what level of
bird watching are we at? Are you going on bird
watching holidays when you're away overseas? It has died down
a little bit.
Speaker 5 (13:28):
Now.
Speaker 2 (13:28):
I don't know if he's trying to bury it for me,
but I think it was, because that is crazy. After
you guys are married, birdwatching is very normal. He learned
it from his grandma, So he was raised a lot
by his grandma, and it is a grandma hobby, right.
They used to go out and watch a birdwatch and
he learned to love it. So he learned everything through
his grand and then when she passed away, he just
kept watching.
Speaker 1 (13:47):
Oh, I do think it's beautiful. Yeah, I agree. I
think that's so sweet. I do think that there must
be an age where most of us hit when bird
watching comes into the sphere, because I know so many
people who enjoy it. I'm waiting for it to hit
me now that I'm like, now that I'm deep in
the gardening, bird watching is only a hop skip away.
Speaker 2 (14:03):
Oh, You should see how excited he is by the
Australian fauna and flora, like, oh, it's a whole new
world we have, you.
Speaker 1 (14:09):
Know, the Kooka burrough. That was mind blowing for him
and it's been a real adventure it is. Okay, here's
my one and only trivia fact that I know. If
you ever have me on your trivia team, I'm actually
terrible at it. But one I do know is guess
what the kooka barra is the world's biggest kingfish. There
you go. Everyone, don't say you don't come in to
learn anything. It's a kingfisher. Kingfisher, you said, kingfish, which
(14:30):
is a fish in.
Speaker 4 (14:32):
I love that fact so much.
Speaker 1 (14:34):
That's our headline. It is the world's biggest one.
Speaker 2 (14:37):
Though you were right, don't ever have Laura on your
trivia team.
Speaker 1 (14:42):
You heard it hear first. Now, Britt, have you seen
the new TV show The Floor.
Speaker 2 (14:48):
It's like, I haven't sat down and gotten into it yet,
but I heard a lot about it, mainly from you.
Speaker 1 (14:53):
To be honest, if you haven't seen it, it's on
Channel nine and I was watching it the other night
with my mother in law. And if you haven't seen it,
look this is the concert. You have like a square
of floor, so stupid to explain. It's such a stupid game. Okay,
so we're on the floor, got it. So you're an
expert in whatever field. For example, I could say I'm
an expert in kids books because I read so many
(15:13):
of them. And then you pick your little You have
like a little square on the ground, and everyone who's
on the floor has a square of their expertise, right,
and the person next to you could have an expertise
in flags or I don't know, chocolate brands, could be anything.
And you go and you jewel them basically just show
an image of it, and you've got to like quickly
say the name of whatever it is. Who are you
(15:34):
jeweling the person next to you to get their piece
of square so that you can get more of the show.
Speaker 2 (15:39):
A chocolate person could hypothetically take a book person.
Speaker 1 (15:43):
Squees, god, exactly, thank you, Oh my god, stay with me, everyone, Sorry,
it's very convoysied. Now. I know probably no one cares
about this, but I discovered something the other night. Because
I'm self proclaimed, I'm very bad at trivia, Like, you
do not want me on your trivia team. I don't
know anything. I don't know where anything is. I don't
know a single thing about nothing. But I learned something
(16:03):
that I'm quite good at from watching the floor. So
somebody had their Their area of expertise was birds. Now,
we were talking about birds the other day, and I
know what you're gonna bring up, but let me tell you,
I got every single one of those bird names right
when we were watching the floor. And I think that
maybe my new grandma hobby that I'm going to take
on should be bird watching. I am a bird connoisseur.
Speaker 2 (16:23):
Just to get people up to date, Laura has been
bragging about how much he knows about birds.
Speaker 1 (16:28):
I just want to play this grab from a couple
of days ago. Here's my one and only trivia fact
that I know is guess what the kooka bar is
the world's biggest kingfish. There you go, everyone, don't say
you don't come in to learn it's a kingfisher. Kingfisher.
You said kingfish, which is a fish in that? Okay,
So kingfish is what you said you're an expert in,
(16:49):
which is in fact not a bird. I meant kingfisher.
You all know what I meant. I was close enough. Well,
you've been bragging about this non stop, this little bird obsession.
I'm not I'm just like really proud of myself because
I know that being savvy in bird names is not
particularly cool, or knowing what birds are is not particularly cool.
But for some reason, I just think that, like as Australians,
(17:11):
a lot of us have a knack for knowing bird names. Well,
we all need a skill in life. Yeah, some people's
is more important than mine.
Speaker 2 (17:17):
Well, we're gonna hold our own little game show here
at the pickup our own little bird watching the floor
game show. I actually have printed off eight birds, Laura,
and I'm gonna quick fire hold them up to you.
Speaker 1 (17:28):
I have the pictures in front of me.
Speaker 2 (17:29):
This is quick fire, rapid fire. That's yes, Laura, thank you.
That is what quick fire means.
Speaker 1 (17:34):
I am going to hold up for birds and you.
Speaker 2 (17:36):
Are going to say what it is straight away if
you don't know it.
Speaker 1 (17:39):
And I feel like the time is up, I will
be going on to the next bird. Okay, are you ready?
Speaker 4 (17:43):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (17:43):
Let's play this properly though, Guys, what do I win?
Speaker 6 (17:45):
Nothing?
Speaker 1 (17:45):
Respect on hundred thousand dollars like the floor. I'm ready
for Will and Woody. Respect from Willem Woody, will Woody,
you're hearing this all right?
Speaker 2 (17:53):
Ready?
Speaker 1 (17:53):
Yes, and the pick up the four bird watching extravaganza
starts now. Flamingo, magpie eagle, well kind crusted eagle? No, wrong,
big wing? De No? Not okay, that's not a point
next one. It is an eagle though, Oh it's a
rosella what what direction? What do you mean direction? It's
(18:15):
facing the it's a kind of direction.
Speaker 2 (18:18):
Ok. Okay, it's actually an eastern rosella hummingbird.
Speaker 1 (18:22):
Yep, oh, castulary castlewarry yup, dezy. Oh, I don't know
what that is. It looks like a No, it's a
big a gala. Yeah, oh that's it mate, six point five? No,
I got seven out of eight. Who are you taking
(18:43):
a point off for? You didn't know what kind of
eagle it was? That's true. What is it? It's a
balled eagle?
Speaker 2 (18:49):
Not bad?
Speaker 1 (18:50):
Is I think? Maybe this is my I'm gonna I'm
gonna work on this and just to be clear, and
is eastern. This should become a benchmark because I think
we should do this weekly. I am exciting. That was
for the people in the car, for everyone out there
who is a birdwatcher, I'm here for you. I think
I've just isolated the rest of the Australian audience, but
I'm okay with well.
Speaker 2 (19:09):
I would like to figure out an animal that I
have an expertise in.
Speaker 1 (19:12):
And do a quiz and myself. All right, we're coming
to your next week.
Speaker 4 (19:17):
Now.
Speaker 1 (19:17):
If you were listening to the show yesterday, you would
know that I am I am the most skilled at
birds across the land. Actually I didn't do as well
as I thought I would. And the backstory to this
is that I watched an episode of the new game
show The Floor, and I learned that I had a
hidden skill of knowing bird names. And I feel deeply
proud of this. I don't know why we did a
(19:39):
bird quiz. I like quick fire bird quiz. I held
up people. I did so well. I got one wrong
one point five. I just didn't know the bald part
of the eagle, but I knew it was an eagle,
and look, can I just say I will die on
this hill. The only bird I didn't get was a stalk,
and that's because it wasn't flying, it was just standing.
No one knows what a stalk looks like when it's
standing if it is mid flight with a baby in
(19:59):
its mouth, you would know. I feel like a real
bird expert would know. Well, I'm mean, I'm close. You
were good to be David Attenborough. Next, I'm going to
be looking at you know, the fish and the trawling
and everything else that's happening in the world where he's had.
Speaker 2 (20:09):
It was weird how much you knew, Like, it's a
weird skill to have.
Speaker 1 (20:12):
Can I tell you? It was weirder the fact that
you kind of were like weely upset and then angry
that you didn't.
Speaker 2 (20:17):
Have a test upset angry I had foma. I also
want a quiz, but you you're.
Speaker 1 (20:22):
Not proven yourself to be particularly good at any one animal.
Oh wow, I know they're fighting words, Laura, I didn't
know whe were there. Well, we are, but Britt has
I mean you've spoken about a little bit over the
last two days you felt personally victimized. Yeah, I just
wanted an animal quiz as well that the bird quid
quizzed for me. And so the one animal that you
seem to know better than other animals but not particularly well,
(20:46):
I don't think is dogs. So you said, where's my quiz?
I want an animal quiz, And what we have done
is we've gone out of our way to create, to replicate,
to see if you were, in fact an expert in dogs,
and if you can win in some of my floor.
Since I clearly won the bird game.
Speaker 2 (21:03):
I'm cracking my knuckles. I'm so excited about this. How
many dogs do we have?
Speaker 1 (21:07):
Roll the game show music? We've got eight dogs. And
the way this is gonna work is it's like flashcards.
Speaker 4 (21:11):
Guys.
Speaker 1 (21:11):
I know it's more of an audio medium, but just
hereierus out. I'm in a hold of a picture of
the dog. Ye, you're gonna tell me what kind of
dog it is? And then for everyone you get right,
you get a Point's pretty easy to get it. I
run the quiz yesterday got all right? Well that's for
anyone who was listening to the show. Okay, and it's
gonna start right now. What is this dog? Maltese or multipoo?
Absolutely not bish on freeze fish freeze. Don't know how
(21:36):
to say this freeze. Okay, that's wrong. Don't correct me
where you were wrong in the first place, because I
know it. Now, keep going, okay, schnauz off good, Yeah, no,
just a normal one, but that's fine. Ready and next yep, good,
Oh this is the little one.
Speaker 2 (21:54):
Will On You don't know ready, Jack Rash, great, well done,
well done, Brottweiler, very good.
Speaker 1 (22:02):
This sounds an easy one. You didn't get it. You
you're China. You talk too long, Jerman Shepherd. Yeah, all right,
well we did it. You've only got fifty percent, right,
that's why we needed more.
Speaker 6 (22:21):
To get, say, you hard dogs. Sorry, they were not
mainstream dogs. She got like a magpie. Sorry, I got
a Becheon freeze. It sounds like I'm kind of breakfast
in Paris.
Speaker 1 (22:34):
To be fair, And I didn't even know what a
Bishon freeze was, but I've seen a few of these
dogs before. Bijeon free freeze. No, it's freeze, Bijeon Freeze.
Well whatever, great. Sorry. Producer Grace is sitting there and
she's like, well, what's it called? No one cares about that.
Speaker 7 (22:51):
I was, I would, but I'm sure everyone's very confused
by what we're doing right now.
Speaker 1 (23:03):
Why didn't you put my own dog in there? Do
you know what? Maybe we could start our own game
of the floor, but actually just have listeners call up
with their things that they're good at. We could do
this actually with listeners, because you know, there'd be people
who are much more skilled than what wek I know
it's going to be hard to find. We will scour
the nation, but we might find someone who knows dogs
better than bringing Hockley. Now, do you know something that
(23:24):
has like come into my algorithm recently? A plant?
Speaker 4 (23:27):
No?
Speaker 1 (23:28):
I mean I'm pretty hardcore on the plant content as well,
But no, I have been served quite a few private investigators.
And what I mean when you get on someone's explore page,
how did you end up here? No, there's a couple
of accounts that I follow that I am absolutely obsessed with,
and they're female investigators who go in and try and find,
(23:49):
like you know, husbands who are cheating, or like you know,
find the truth behind the mystery. And if you've ever
been in a relationship where you just like don't know
your elbow from your butt, like honestly, you might have
felt as though maybe hiring a private investigator is your
only hope in getting the answers that you're probably looking for. Okay, yeah, okay,
(24:09):
I mean I've never done it. I absolutely had moments
in my past relationship where I thought like, could I
be that person, like, could I hire someone? I'm surprised.
Is that a retrochical question? Can I answer it?
Speaker 2 (24:20):
I'm surprised you haven't ever done it, because it's definitely
like a tendency that I feel like could come out
for you.
Speaker 1 (24:26):
No, No, I don't think that. I think it's like,
you've got to be in a pretty hard situation to
get to the point of hiring a private investigator. Yeah,
but I would love to know how do people get
into this, Like what are the kinds of things that
they are trying to uncover? And like in terms of
when someone has a suspicion and actually getting someone and
employing them on the case, how often is it that
their suspicions are usually true? Or do have Natalia who's
(24:49):
on the phone. So Natalia is a private investigator. She
works for a company called Lipstick Investigations. Great, and she's
been doing it for twelve years. And Natalia, welcome to
the show.
Speaker 4 (24:58):
Hi, how are you going?
Speaker 1 (24:59):
Thank How did you get into this line of work? Like,
how did you get into being a private investigator?
Speaker 4 (25:05):
Well, my friends do like to call me a stalker
just a little bit time. Yeah, I always exposed the truth,
you know, Look, so twelve years ago it was just
a taste course. It was a certificate three in investigative services. Yes,
so unfortunately, look, I don't do about tape courses anymore,
(25:27):
so you have to go through a current private company.
So yeah, and so was.
Speaker 2 (25:33):
There something that happened in your life, like something that
sort of set you off? Were you trying to look
at things in your own life or a relationship, or like,
there has to be something that made you want to
solve these crimes.
Speaker 4 (25:43):
Look, when I was younger, I grew up watching like
Bronica Mars and James Bond and like Larra Cofts and
all that sort of thing. So I was like all
female empowerment, you know, and I always just to have
a lot of girlfriends who lets say, oh, look I
think my boyfriend's cheating on me. I just have all
these hard feelings there are a way that we can
find out if it's cheating. And I'm like, you know what,
I'll just following him and see what is up to
(26:04):
for the day. And it's just pretty much Yeah. So
it was just a knack from the beginning of it,
you know. So I just thought, okay, actually actually quite
good to this.
Speaker 1 (26:13):
So is that the most common kind of things that
you get called into where it's like women who think
their husbands are cheating on them? Or is there a
specific type of like I don't even know. Do we
call it a crime, a crime against emotions? I don't know,
but a moral crime? A moral crime? Like what is
the most frequent thing that you get called to do?
Speaker 4 (26:30):
So we do do a lot of infidelity based work,
So a lot of like cheating husband, cheating wife, boyfriend's girlfriends,
anything that you can think of, pretty much, and it's
looked quite unfortunate, but it's fortunate in a way because
there's always going to be a teeter to.
Speaker 2 (26:45):
Say, do you think there's like one case. I don't
know if you're like how much your allowed to tell us,
but is there a case that you can tell us
about that was just so crazy, like you couldn't even
believe it.
Speaker 4 (26:55):
Yes, early in my career, actually I had a jog
where a male was out with his female companion. She
was actually his mistress, and he had told his wife
that he was coming home and the wife had said
that to him that she was working late from work,
so she wasn't going to be in the house but
she actually was in fact in the house and inside
(27:16):
the closet the years. So he actually went to the
Marrital home and took his mistress to the home, not
knowing that his wife was actually inside the bedroom closet.
Speaker 1 (27:28):
Do that to yourself? What a dirt bag?
Speaker 4 (27:31):
Right?
Speaker 1 (27:32):
And then did she like string out at the right moment.
Speaker 4 (27:37):
So the male and his mistress actually went into the
Maryor home and then maybe about five to seven minutes later,
the mistress comes out, and then maybe about five minutes
after that, about six cock Car's name, the wife's just
running out trying to like attack the mistress. The husband's
trying to pull apart the wife and the mistresses. Oh
my god, it was intense. Like even just remembering it
(27:58):
right now, I lost for words.
Speaker 1 (28:00):
And that was just now. I want to know, when
you go out and you and you follow someone or
you're investigating someone, how often is it that the conclusion
is they've actually been cheating? Like is it kind of
a done deal that if you get called onto the
scene to kind of take over this, that the likelihood
that there's cheating there is pretty high.
Speaker 4 (28:19):
Well, technically, like once you have that feeling like you're
partner's cheating on you, and you hire us. We're the
last step. So for you to have to hire us,
you know that it's happening, and we're just there to
provide the evidence at the end of the day. So
there has been obviously some cases in my twelve years
of working that it's just sometimes paranoia like it's not happening,
(28:40):
that could be from a past trauma, from a past relationship,
and we're just there to be evidence based at the
end of the day. So I'd say seventy percent yes
if you think that your partners cheating on you and
your partner's cheating on you, and thirty percent that it
might just not be that and it's just an insecurity.
Speaker 2 (28:56):
Have you ever been sprung Like have you ever been
figured out by the so that you're tailing?
Speaker 4 (29:01):
Oh? Of course, Like I'm not invisible. I mean sometimes
I'm invisible, but no, Like, look, I thought I had
bright red hair early in my career, so I had
it died, I was sub known as a Yeah, I
was known as the spy with the bright red hair,
and now I've got bright blue hair. So like, look,
I'm not that invisible, but you'd be surprised people don't
(29:23):
actually do pay attention to you, Like if you're they're cheating,
you're not looking around and going hey who's that? Like
who's this? Who's that?
Speaker 2 (29:29):
Yeah, if I saw the same person like around my suburb,
you know, and I kept seeing them like someone with
red hair, my mind doesn't go to like, oh, they're
an investigator following me. You're just like, well, I've been
seeing that person a lot, Like you don't put the
two together, to be fair, though, Like I don't think
I have a very good like face name recall and
I reckon.
Speaker 1 (29:46):
I could see the same person a couple of times
before even realizing that there was like you know that
there was a toiling here. Do you think being a
woman has helped you in this industry or do you
think it's been a hindrance at all?
Speaker 4 (29:57):
Oh No, it's actually been a there's over many benefits
from being a female in his industry. You know, sometimes
you can get into nightclubs if you just flip with
the security guards a little bit. It's like, especially if
your subject is going into a nightclub, they just got
to security guards. He's like, I am a private investigator,
Like I think that that guy's cheating on his partner
and the security guards.
Speaker 1 (30:18):
They love it.
Speaker 4 (30:18):
They'll be like, oh my God, really, like can we
get on this? Like do you want us to help you?
It's like to write this go and yeah, like we'll
help you, like whatever you need, just tell us like
who is it? Who is it? And I'm like, well,
I can't tell you who it is? But they just
love it. But being a female, it's Yeah, there's so
many upsides to it. Like I said, you get into
more places people don't really pay attention to you.
Speaker 1 (30:39):
So yeah, Tlia, I find it's so fascinating. Like I said,
There's definitely been times in my past where I've contemplated.
I've never I've never hired one. If you never have, God,
I don't think I'm ever gonna have to my current husband,
but as current I have to hire someone like you
(31:00):
has been now. But God, you're doing God's work and Talia,
you're doing God's work.
Speaker 4 (31:05):
Oh. Sometimes, like, look, it is a high job. People
don't think that it's hard, but it is mentally demanding,
you know, and sometimes you're like you're there at your
client's worst points. You know, it's like they don't want
to be someone. Yeah, they don't want to hire someone
to see if their husband or wife they're cheating on them,
you know, and once you find out that they are,
and you give them the evidence, you kind of become
(31:26):
like a little bit of a counsel of them to know.
But in saying that, you can't really have a bias
opinion either. So some clients come to and they say, oh,
even my husband, a dictat, is cheating on me, and
I'm like, oh, no, I can't really say that.
Speaker 1 (31:38):
Yeah, totally.
Speaker 2 (31:39):
Oh, thank you, Natalia. It was a pleasure to talk
to you. And hey, if anyone's listening Lipstick Investigations, if
you if you've got a suspicion about a partner, you
know who to call.
Speaker 1 (31:48):
Yeah, you might get a boom and calls after this
thanks to.
Speaker 4 (31:50):
Talia, Thank you so much.
Speaker 2 (31:54):
We talk a lot about cheating here and on our
podcast Life Uncut, in terms of all different kinds of
relationship in infidelity, And I want to know, do you
think there's ever a time it's okay to publicly humiliate
somebody off the back of infidelity, which I know seems
like an obvious answer.
Speaker 1 (32:12):
Cheating is like the one thing that, like nothing riles
people up in when it comes to relationships as much
as the conversation around cheating does. Do I think it's
okay to publicly humiliate them? No, I think it makes
you a bit petty. But I've also been in the
situation where I've been cheated on and at the time
really thought about publicly humiliating them because you want, you
want some sort of indication. You want people to know.
(32:34):
You want like their friends and their family and their
mum to know like what an asshole they are.
Speaker 2 (32:40):
Of course, but there's something for me that doesn't sit
right with the idea of public humiliation. Ever, I don't
know why whatever even is done, there's something that when
I see it go down, I just really feel for them,
even if they've done the wrong thing. This is exactly
what has happened in this story online. There's a husband
that found out that his wife was cheating on him,
(33:00):
and it was his fortieth birthday party. So he had
this huge party with like family and friends, and he
got up to do his speech, you know.
Speaker 1 (33:07):
Like thank you for coming, blah blah blah blah.
Speaker 2 (33:08):
Yeah, Basically, he had known his partner was cheating on him,
so he saved it for this moment. He calls her
up on stage, and he makes it look like he's
doing this beautiful thank you and he has a gift
to her and how important she is.
Speaker 1 (33:21):
And all this stuff.
Speaker 2 (33:22):
He gets her to take a wedding ring off because
he alludes to the fact that.
Speaker 1 (33:25):
You know, she deserves an upgrade. He plans the kiss
of death on her.
Speaker 2 (33:29):
He basically kisses her like quite firmly and strongly. But
the kiss of death is this idea. It's like in
the It's like a mafia thing. Whence a mafia person
finds out that someone has betrayed them, they give them
what they call the kiss of death, which means like,
I know you've betrayed me and something's about to happen.
So he does that, which is very dramatic. Now you
need to listen to how crazy this is.
Speaker 4 (33:48):
After even though it's my event, get.
Speaker 5 (33:51):
Her a little song, right, I know everything, I know.
Speaker 1 (34:09):
Everybody, and.
Speaker 2 (34:11):
I wasn't.
Speaker 1 (34:16):
He sounds terrific.
Speaker 2 (34:18):
He goes on to say like he's seen some sexy things,
he's seen some body parts.
Speaker 1 (34:22):
He starts to go like crazy at her.
Speaker 2 (34:25):
The video goes so much longer than that, but he's
basically just staying in front of everyone, humiliating her even
though she's done the wrong thing obviously, but the fact
that this was so premeditated to save it for a
public moment get her up Lula into a false sense
of security that he's gonna like say she's amazing and
then go.
Speaker 1 (34:43):
Oh, he sounds nah. I think like listening to that,
he sounds so aggressive and sounds truly horrible. And I guess,
like I understand that if you've been cheated on, your
hurt and you probably won't have a big reaction everything,
but I don't know. I think listening to that, like
you almost come across as the villain your well, if
you come across so petty. I mean, I've definitely heard
of like people standing at the altar and waiting until
(35:05):
it was time to do their vows, and that was
the opportunity that they took to you know, tell everyone,
the family, the friends, everyone who's there, to tell them
that actually their partner had been cheating on them. But
we actually received a message which is you know, to
the pickup, which is kind of along this line of things.
So this was someone who works with an Australia who
works in a very prominent hospital, and it said this
(35:26):
one of the doctors and a senior executive at our
hospital got caught having an affair. The senior executive was
a woman, mind you. The husband of the exec used
her phone to send an email to leak their affair,
and the email was sent to the entire hospital staff.
Every single hospital staff. Thousands of people received the email
(35:48):
from her saying this is what I've done, and this
is like the person I'm doing with. It was like
was written by her, but it was written by her husband.
It was written well, actually there's a bit more detail
to this. It was written by the husband, and it
was saying, like just letting you on what they've been
doing while they're supposed to be on working hours. How humiliating.
Speaker 4 (36:05):
Look.
Speaker 1 (36:06):
But then is that okay? No, I don't think any
of it's okay. But at the same time, I also
understand it. I do understand why someone could be so
hurt and feel so betrayed that they act in a
way that's so not congruent with how they would normally
behave because they just want everyone to know what an
awful person their partner's been. Do I actually think it's okay?
Would I ever do it. No, I think it's totally petty,
(36:29):
but I also understand why some people feel that's the
only option to enact some sort of revenge.
Speaker 2 (36:33):
I remember when my ex many moons ago. Now I
was living his double life and he was marrying someone
else simultaneously, like complete double life.
Speaker 1 (36:41):
But I remember when I found out.
Speaker 2 (36:42):
All I wanted to do was out him to everyone
I knew, like I wanted to humiliate him, but I
didn't have it in me, so all I could bring
myself to do was steal all his toilet paper from
his house and next time we need a poop.
Speaker 1 (36:53):
He didn't anything to wipe his butt. I don't even
think that touched the size. Literally it didn't, and that's
don't think. No, he didn't. He wouldn't. Just had shower
This episode was recorded on cameragle Land. Hi guys, and
welcome back to another episode of Life Uncut.
Speaker 2 (00:09):
I'm Brittany and I'm Laura, and this is our radio
show all packaged up in a cute, tight little bundle.
Speaker 1 (00:15):
It's the highlights of the week. We have a national
radio show.
Speaker 2 (00:18):
If you are new to the podcast, welcome, But this
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Speaker 1 (00:24):
So if you're super confused, just go and listen to
Wednesday's app. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (00:28):
Hey, I loved one of the chats today. We were
speaking to Lipstick Investigations, which is it's like an investigation.
Speaker 1 (00:36):
We're speaking to a woman behind it, Natalia, and her.
Speaker 2 (00:38):
Job is she gets hired to go on like track
people and find out if they're cheating.
Speaker 1 (00:43):
And I think it's so fascinating. I always like, I mean,
I'm not going to say I ever entertained the idea,
but I always thought about it when I was surprised. No,
of course not. But like when you're getting cheated on
and you're not sure if it's truth or not, like
your brain goes to some pretty crazy places to try
and uncover the truth flat out. Yeah, I always say,
like I'm just busy. I always say, like, there's no
(01:05):
better detective than like a woman scorned. Natalie is not
even scorned, she's just doing the work for the people
who have been or a woman that's paid by a
woman scorned. Yeah, but also interestingly because there's this real
advantage about the fact that she is a woman working
in this industry, being a private investigator, because mostly it's
a male dominated industry. And she said it's really easy
for her to get into night clubs and to be
(01:25):
able to follow men around and go relatively undetected. It's
fascinating to me the reasons why people get a private
investigator and feel the need to.
Speaker 2 (01:35):
But it's weird to me to think, like you could
just be like walking out of your house to work
and there's someone following you that you have no idea.
Like when you put it like that, does it make
it okay because you've paid someone.
Speaker 1 (01:44):
It's also crazy that that can be legal. But that's
what happens with paparazzi, right, Like totally, I mean an investor,
a private investigator could be following you. You might have
no idea. For people who work in media or who
you know are relative celebrities, you could walk out in the
front of your house and not know that someone's following you,
or you could be walking on the street with your
kids and have some dude hiding in the bushes taking
photos of you. Like it's all weird, all of it.
(02:05):
But as long as you're in a public setting, it's
so fine for these people to film and to kind
of document what it is that you're doing.
Speaker 2 (02:11):
Yeah, and I was surprised how many people actually take
her up on it, Like, I knew that you'd be busy,
but I didn't think this should be like proper flat
out and I knew people would consider it like you
know what, you never know it, Yeah, you don't think
that many people go through with it and actually hand over
the money and go and investigate.
Speaker 1 (02:26):
But it's yea fascinating chat. Well look, if you thought
that was shocking, let me tell you something else that's
really going to get you going. Have you guys seen
the new It's a new TV show called the Floor.
It's like a game show where they have flash cards
that show up and you've got to answer all the
questions on the flash car. So basically like name whatever
it is on the flash car, like quick Speed trivia, yes,
rapid fire yea. And I've discovered that I'm very good
(02:49):
at bird names. It's a skill and I never knew
I needed it. I never knew it would come in handy.
I'm not convinced. I didn't even know I was good
at bird names, but I'm pretty good at telling and talking.
Speaker 2 (02:59):
About Yep, you nailed the cook a barrel or congratulations.
Speaker 1 (03:02):
No, it was the Kingfish. That's where I really I know,
I know that's where I really look. I came a
little bit unstuck. But you guys will see a skill, technicality,
a skill. You never knew that Laura Byrn had is
birds and I wish that it was something else, but
it's not. Dock. We just lost the listeners or hang around.
I don't know. If they stick through to listen to it,
(03:22):
then we might then. Anyway, guys, it's coming up now.
Speaker 2 (03:26):
Okay, So my entire algorithm online Laura is weddings. No surprise,
I am getting married. So you know, it just becomes
your whole life, like everything you get fed.
Speaker 1 (03:34):
Yeah, mine is just babies and birth videos. As soon
as Instagram realized that I was pregnant, it was just
spitting out birth interesting. You don't want that on your algorithm.
I've seen enough. Maybe if you give him birth you do,
I've done enough. I love the wedding stuff that's been
fed to me. I absolutely love it. I get for you.
Speaker 2 (03:51):
I get a lot of ideas from it, and I
get a lot of first dances and things like that,
really cute.
Speaker 1 (03:55):
But there is this one that he's going viral on
TikTok at the.
Speaker 2 (03:58):
Moment, and I actually am sugar to my call that
this is a thing that is happening.
Speaker 1 (04:03):
I could not imagine ever doing this to her guest
have listened to this.
Speaker 3 (04:08):
So I am currently sitting in my car and we
have been here literally like a total of fifteen minutes,
and the bride comes up to me and tells me
that my outfit is inappropriate for her wedding. And that
was a supposed dress code that I didn't know existed
(04:28):
because I never got a wedding invitation mailed to my house.
It was a text message that my husband received. But
in twenty twenty five, is this what bride'es do to
the guest?
Speaker 4 (04:39):
Now?
Speaker 2 (04:40):
Okay, So just to set this up a little bit more,
this woman went to this wedding with her husband, and
the invite came through the husband. She drove two hours
to get there with two kids. She never saw a
formal invite. She gets in there.
Speaker 1 (04:54):
Now she's wearing like a three quarter dress, beautiful dress,
but it's not over sumach dress with a pattern.
Speaker 2 (05:00):
It's very geometric of blues, colored blocks and stuff like that.
Like it's very pattern So if the dress code said
no patterns, it's pole opposite to that, right, But she
doesn't even know what the dress code is.
Speaker 1 (05:12):
Within fifteen minutes.
Speaker 2 (05:13):
The bride told her to leave the wedding. I actually
cannot believe the audacity of the bride to do that.
Speaker 1 (05:19):
I have on my wedding.
Speaker 2 (05:21):
My dress code is no big patterns, like big loud patterns,
which would probably include this, to be honest. But I
can hand on heart say, if I arrive and there
is a guest in a pattern or a dress, there
is no part of me there would ever in a
million year's dream of kicking that person out, Like are
your aesthetics more important to you than the.
Speaker 1 (05:41):
People you're supposed to love? You might not kick them out,
but would you bitch about them behind their back? I
would get them to stand off to the side. I'd
be like, could you just stand outside behind a tree?
No way to your mom and you're like, Mom, just
go and stand over there. No look, I mean crazy. Also,
if you're inviting people to your wedding and you care
more about your dress code than the people that are coming,
I think that says a lot about the type wedding
that you want. And it's not about celebrating with your
(06:02):
family and friends. It's about having the photos for proof afterwards.
Don't get me wrong, I understand that people have dress
codes for a reason. It can be very, very frustrating
when you have a dress code and someone purposefully and
willfully chooses to not abide by it. Like when I
sent you a photo of address and I was like,
I like this one, Britta, and you were like, that's patterned,
and I was like, yeah, that's nice. Though I said
(06:23):
can I wear this? And I said it's a bit
of a pattern but if you want, yeah, that's good.
I lie to that because you left it open, because
what I say is no, do it. No, I'm joking. No.
Speaker 2 (06:33):
I was at a wedding once and I'd love to
know what it would take for you, Laura to ask
someone to not be at your.
Speaker 1 (06:38):
Wedding, Like were honestly nothing. Oh look, if you came
naked to my wedding, I might tell my uncle to
put some pants on. But like, you know, apart from that,
I don't think I had a dress code. Actually I did.
Do you know what went out on our wedding invitation?
That was a dress code sexy? Yeah. So I left
my husband in charge of organizing that side of things,
Like he did the invites and everything, and we did
(06:59):
it on that online wedding platform where like you kind
of feel everything out and it sends out an automated
digital wedding and vibe. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (07:06):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (07:07):
And because we weren't really sure of all the prompts
at the time, Matt went on and he just filled
out like funny shit that he thought would get changed,
and so he wrote dress sexy and that went out
to all our guests.
Speaker 2 (07:18):
And I came with side boob. I had a little
bit of side boob out and I got in trouble.
Laura was like, put your boob away.
Speaker 1 (07:25):
I was like, well, we never got in you look great,
You look great. But it was a fantastic about a
sideboob and look, some people did dress sex with my wedding.
I'm okay with it. I also went backless to look
I understand, and I think this doesn't just go for weddings,
it goes for kind of any event. I think it's
fine to have a dress code if you've got a
certain idea in mind. But if someone rocks up and
they aren't in that dress code, they're probably not going
(07:46):
to feel that comfortable already. They're already probably going to
feel like an outlier or like they got it wrong.
And making and drawing attention to that just makes you
a bit of an asshole, rather than you know, accepting
that you know, okay, well it's not ideal, but it's
not a big deal either. I don't know. For me,
I just think that's yeah. I think it's gross and
I would never, never, ever, ever in my life would
(08:08):
I pull someone up for not dressing a way that
I thought was appropriate. Also, I do not care what
year we are in.
Speaker 2 (08:15):
Ever, you don't send a wedding invitation by a text
message like we are not there yet, And if you
are sending your invites out, stop being so lazy. Online
is fine. Everything is online a text message?
Speaker 1 (08:26):
You know what it makes me know, it makes me
think that he got a formal invite and he had
an RSVP'd, and so the groom sent a text message
to be like, hey, do you come into the wedding.
I would absolutely put money on the fact that a
formal if someone's that anal about their dress code, a
formal invitation went out and that man just did an
RSVP properly. So maybe they were already a bit of
a liability couple. Maybe there's more to this. Get him
(08:49):
on the phone, will follow up next live from the
United States. No, I reckon, there's more to this. Okay,
we'll get our investigators on it now. Britt, Why does
this sound so serious and very ominous? You have been
giving me shtick about something for a shtick. You give
me shtick about something for almost a year now, almost
(09:10):
It could be a multitude of things. I took on
a hobby. I don't know where it came from. I
don't know what sparked it, but about a year ago
I got really into house plans. He did you got this?
Speaker 2 (09:21):
It started slow to be fair, likeet little few plants
crept in and then you're like, oh, let me try
and see if I can cut a stem and propagate
and neck minute, your house is a jungle.
Speaker 1 (09:30):
So I got so deeply obsessed with house plans and
like doing the best by my house plants that I
went online one night. It was like late at night,
and an ad popped up on social media, and it
was an ad for it's called an indoor forest and
it has like all the right lead lights that like
produce the right amount of you know, the right amount
(09:50):
of light to have in your house to keep their
plants healthy. But it's a vertical thing that you install
from the ceiling to the floor. And I haven't even
seen this. Yeah, I know. I bought it. Okay, it arrived.
I'm embarrassed to say how much it cost. And my
husband saw it and he was like enough, He's like,
you can't buy things that take up a whole space
in our house. Give me like ballpark figure nah, no,
(10:13):
barrels under cost me nine hundred dollars. It was like,
oh my god, I am dedicated to the house plants. Okay,
I love them. I care about them. I often on
a weekend sneak out and buy more houseplants. Okay, it's come,
make you send it back. No, he let me keep it,
but we haven't installed it. He's like, it's not anyway,
there's not what you're talking about. We should, we should,
we should, but we won't. Now. I love my houseplants.
(10:36):
I love how therapeutic it was for me that I
discovered this, that it brings me just so much joy.
It's probably the only time when I'm at home on
a weekend and I'm doing my house plans that I
feel as though my brain is at peace, genuinely, and
I think that that's why I love it so much.
I'm happy for you.
Speaker 2 (10:53):
I'm confused where this is going, but I'm glad you
found your piece. Well.
Speaker 1 (10:57):
I came across the study recently and it was there
was no about it. And it's called Grandma hobbies, and
I think I slot, I slot hardcore right in there.
But grandma hobbies are making a comeback. And I'm talking
things like bird watching and clay art and crocheting, things
that you would have thought are uncool because your nana
would have done them back in the day. All the
cool kids are doing him now and guess what one
(11:18):
of them is house plants.
Speaker 2 (11:20):
I'm sorry, Can I tell you what my grandma used
to do? She didn't crochet, she didn't knit, she didn't.
Speaker 1 (11:24):
Do any of that. She just dray whiskey. No, she
raced pigeons.
Speaker 2 (11:30):
When I used to love going to grandma's house because
at the back she had a full avery of homing
pigeons and you would race them. They would have to
do a job, like deliver a letter or something, and
they'd race and then they'd have to come back to you.
Speaker 1 (11:40):
So like I was never exposed to those grandma homes.
That feels way more niche than like knitting, for example,
we're making doilies or whatever. My other one was a
race car driver. She'd fully like I had hectic Where
did you grow up?
Speaker 4 (11:54):
Well?
Speaker 1 (11:54):
I grew up important quarry, but they didn't. I had
have had a very adventurous family. But please please go forth.
What else is coming? Okay? Well, my parents, like my
mom and my grandma, crocheting big in our family. We
were a big family of crochets. Pottery. You know how
everyone these days like signing up to go and do
pottery classes where you sit there and spin a wheel.
Ah love that. But also if you're someone who's been
(12:16):
taking on grandma hobbies, there is now studies and proof
to say just how good that is for your mental health,
so you don't let anyone like Brittany hockleypoop poo it. Okay,
I'm going to tell you that it is a good thing.
You could be going out drinking on a Saturday night,
or you could be at home knit in a blanket.
Speaker 2 (12:29):
Okay, hear me out. I'm not against it. Pottery I
could do. I tried to learn crocheting ones when I
was young. I don't have the patience for it. I
just can't sit still long enough. But one thing that
I found so funny and I hope no one takes
offense by this.
Speaker 1 (12:44):
When I met my fiance Ben, I would look.
Speaker 2 (12:46):
At Ben and think he was really cool, right Like
I was like, okay, he's a giant, Like he's really big,
he's an athlete.
Speaker 1 (12:52):
Is I got a perception of what I thought he
would be and it was it was not reality.
Speaker 2 (12:56):
And in the early days he told me, like growing up,
one of his favorite hobbies and something that he's really
proud of now is is bird watching. Like Ban, my
fiance is a birdwatcher. He loves watching birds. He used
to in his spare time read bird books, and he
has bird books. He knows every bird, he knows their call,
he knows what he's got all these facts because.
Speaker 1 (13:18):
He let go out on like an exhibition of bird watching.
He doesn't take binoculars with him. Of what level of
bird watching are we at? Are you going on bird
watching holidays when you're away overseas? It has died down
a little bit.
Speaker 5 (13:28):
Now.
Speaker 2 (13:28):
I don't know if he's trying to bury it for me,
but I think it was, because that is crazy. After
you guys are married, birdwatching is very normal. He learned
it from his grandma, So he was raised a lot
by his grandma, and it is a grandma hobby, right.
They used to go out and watch a birdwatch and
he learned to love it. So he learned everything through
his grand and then when she passed away, he just
kept watching.
Speaker 1 (13:47):
Oh, I do think it's beautiful. Yeah, I agree. I
think that's so sweet. I do think that there must
be an age where most of us hit when bird
watching comes into the sphere, because I know so many
people who enjoy it. I'm waiting for it to hit
me now that I'm like, now that I'm deep in
the gardening, bird watching is only a hop skip away.
Speaker 2 (14:03):
Oh, You should see how excited he is by the
Australian fauna and flora, like, oh, it's a whole new
world we have, you.
Speaker 1 (14:09):
Know, the Kooka burrough. That was mind blowing for him
and it's been a real adventure it is. Okay, here's
my one and only trivia fact that I know. If
you ever have me on your trivia team, I'm actually
terrible at it. But one I do know is guess
what the kooka barra is the world's biggest kingfish. There
you go. Everyone, don't say you don't come in to
learn anything. It's a kingfisher. Kingfisher, you said, kingfish, which
(14:30):
is a fish in.
Speaker 4 (14:32):
I love that fact so much.
Speaker 1 (14:34):
That's our headline. It is the world's biggest one.
Speaker 2 (14:37):
Though you were right, don't ever have Laura on your
trivia team.
Speaker 1 (14:42):
You heard it hear first. Now, Britt, have you seen
the new TV show The Floor.
Speaker 2 (14:48):
It's like, I haven't sat down and gotten into it yet,
but I heard a lot about it, mainly from you.
Speaker 1 (14:53):
To be honest, if you haven't seen it, it's on
Channel nine and I was watching it the other night
with my mother in law. And if you haven't seen it,
look this is the concert. You have like a square
of floor, so stupid to explain. It's such a stupid game. Okay,
so we're on the floor, got it. So you're an
expert in whatever field. For example, I could say I'm
an expert in kids books because I read so many
(15:13):
of them. And then you pick your little You have
like a little square on the ground, and everyone who's
on the floor has a square of their expertise, right,
and the person next to you could have an expertise
in flags or I don't know, chocolate brands, could be anything.
And you go and you jewel them basically just show
an image of it, and you've got to like quickly
say the name of whatever it is. Who are you
(15:34):
jeweling the person next to you to get their piece
of square so that you can get more of the show.
Speaker 2 (15:39):
A chocolate person could hypothetically take a book person.
Speaker 1 (15:43):
Squees, god, exactly, thank you, Oh my god, stay with me, everyone, Sorry,
it's very convoysied. Now. I know probably no one cares
about this, but I discovered something the other night. Because
I'm self proclaimed, I'm very bad at trivia, Like, you
do not want me on your trivia team. I don't
know anything. I don't know where anything is. I don't
know a single thing about nothing. But I learned something
(16:03):
that I'm quite good at from watching the floor. So
somebody had their Their area of expertise was birds. Now,
we were talking about birds the other day, and I
know what you're gonna bring up, but let me tell you,
I got every single one of those bird names right
when we were watching the floor. And I think that
maybe my new grandma hobby that I'm going to take
on should be bird watching. I am a bird connoisseur.
Speaker 2 (16:23):
Just to get people up to date, Laura has been
bragging about how much he knows about birds.
Speaker 1 (16:28):
I just want to play this grab from a couple
of days ago. Here's my one and only trivia fact
that I know is guess what the kooka bar is
the world's biggest kingfish. There you go, everyone, don't say
you don't come in to learn it's a kingfisher. Kingfisher.
You said kingfish, which is a fish in that? Okay,
So kingfish is what you said you're an expert in,
(16:49):
which is in fact not a bird. I meant kingfisher.
You all know what I meant. I was close enough. Well,
you've been bragging about this non stop, this little bird obsession.
I'm not I'm just like really proud of myself because
I know that being savvy in bird names is not
particularly cool, or knowing what birds are is not particularly cool.
But for some reason, I just think that, like as Australians,
(17:11):
a lot of us have a knack for knowing bird names. Well,
we all need a skill in life. Yeah, some people's
is more important than mine.
Speaker 2 (17:17):
Well, we're gonna hold our own little game show here
at the pickup our own little bird watching the floor
game show. I actually have printed off eight birds, Laura,
and I'm gonna quick fire hold them up to you.
Speaker 1 (17:28):
I have the pictures in front of me.
Speaker 2 (17:29):
This is quick fire, rapid fire. That's yes, Laura, thank you.
That is what quick fire means.
Speaker 1 (17:34):
I am going to hold up for birds and you.
Speaker 2 (17:36):
Are going to say what it is straight away if
you don't know it.
Speaker 1 (17:39):
And I feel like the time is up, I will
be going on to the next bird. Okay, are you ready?
Speaker 4 (17:43):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (17:43):
Let's play this properly though, Guys, what do I win?
Speaker 6 (17:45):
Nothing?
Speaker 1 (17:45):
Respect on hundred thousand dollars like the floor. I'm ready
for Will and Woody. Respect from Willem Woody, will Woody,
you're hearing this all right?
Speaker 2 (17:53):
Ready?
Speaker 1 (17:53):
Yes, and the pick up the four bird watching extravaganza
starts now. Flamingo, magpie eagle, well kind crusted eagle? No, wrong,
big wing? De No? Not okay, that's not a point
next one. It is an eagle though, Oh it's a
rosella what what direction? What do you mean direction? It's
(18:15):
facing the it's a kind of direction.
Speaker 2 (18:18):
Ok. Okay, it's actually an eastern rosella hummingbird.
Speaker 1 (18:22):
Yep, oh, castulary castlewarry yup, dezy. Oh, I don't know
what that is. It looks like a No, it's a
big a gala. Yeah, oh that's it mate, six point five? No,
I got seven out of eight. Who are you taking
(18:43):
a point off for? You didn't know what kind of
eagle it was? That's true. What is it? It's a
balled eagle?
Speaker 2 (18:49):
Not bad?
Speaker 1 (18:50):
Is I think? Maybe this is my I'm gonna I'm
gonna work on this and just to be clear, and
is eastern. This should become a benchmark because I think
we should do this weekly. I am exciting. That was
for the people in the car, for everyone out there
who is a birdwatcher, I'm here for you. I think
I've just isolated the rest of the Australian audience, but
I'm okay with well.
Speaker 2 (19:09):
I would like to figure out an animal that I
have an expertise in.
Speaker 1 (19:12):
And do a quiz and myself. All right, we're coming
to your next week.
Speaker 4 (19:17):
Now.
Speaker 1 (19:17):
If you were listening to the show yesterday, you would
know that I am I am the most skilled at
birds across the land. Actually I didn't do as well
as I thought I would. And the backstory to this
is that I watched an episode of the new game
show The Floor, and I learned that I had a
hidden skill of knowing bird names. And I feel deeply
proud of this. I don't know why we did a
(19:39):
bird quiz. I like quick fire bird quiz. I held
up people. I did so well. I got one wrong
one point five. I just didn't know the bald part
of the eagle, but I knew it was an eagle,
and look, can I just say I will die on
this hill. The only bird I didn't get was a stalk,
and that's because it wasn't flying, it was just standing.
No one knows what a stalk looks like when it's
standing if it is mid flight with a baby in
(19:59):
its mouth, you would know. I feel like a real
bird expert would know. Well, I'm mean, I'm close. You
were good to be David Attenborough. Next, I'm going to
be looking at you know, the fish and the trawling
and everything else that's happening in the world where he's had.
Speaker 2 (20:09):
It was weird how much you knew, Like, it's a
weird skill to have.
Speaker 1 (20:12):
Can I tell you? It was weirder the fact that
you kind of were like weely upset and then angry
that you didn't.
Speaker 2 (20:17):
Have a test upset angry I had foma. I also
want a quiz, but you you're.
Speaker 1 (20:22):
Not proven yourself to be particularly good at any one animal.
Oh wow, I know they're fighting words, Laura, I didn't
know whe were there. Well, we are, but Britt has
I mean you've spoken about a little bit over the
last two days you felt personally victimized. Yeah, I just
wanted an animal quiz as well that the bird quid
quizzed for me. And so the one animal that you
seem to know better than other animals but not particularly well,
(20:46):
I don't think is dogs. So you said, where's my quiz?
I want an animal quiz, And what we have done
is we've gone out of our way to create, to replicate,
to see if you were, in fact an expert in dogs,
and if you can win in some of my floor.
Since I clearly won the bird game.
Speaker 2 (21:03):
I'm cracking my knuckles. I'm so excited about this. How
many dogs do we have?
Speaker 1 (21:07):
Roll the game show music? We've got eight dogs. And
the way this is gonna work is it's like flashcards.
Speaker 4 (21:11):
Guys.
Speaker 1 (21:11):
I know it's more of an audio medium, but just
hereierus out. I'm in a hold of a picture of
the dog. Ye, you're gonna tell me what kind of
dog it is? And then for everyone you get right,
you get a Point's pretty easy to get it. I
run the quiz yesterday got all right? Well that's for
anyone who was listening to the show. Okay, and it's
gonna start right now. What is this dog? Maltese or multipoo?
Absolutely not bish on freeze fish freeze. Don't know how
(21:36):
to say this freeze. Okay, that's wrong. Don't correct me
where you were wrong in the first place, because I
know it. Now, keep going, okay, schnauz off good, Yeah, no,
just a normal one, but that's fine. Ready and next yep, good,
Oh this is the little one.
Speaker 2 (21:54):
Will On You don't know ready, Jack Rash, great, well done,
well done, Brottweiler, very good.
Speaker 1 (22:02):
This sounds an easy one. You didn't get it. You
you're China. You talk too long, Jerman Shepherd. Yeah, all right,
well we did it. You've only got fifty percent, right,
that's why we needed more.
Speaker 6 (22:21):
To get, say, you hard dogs. Sorry, they were not
mainstream dogs. She got like a magpie. Sorry, I got
a Becheon freeze. It sounds like I'm kind of breakfast
in Paris.
Speaker 1 (22:34):
To be fair, And I didn't even know what a
Bishon freeze was, but I've seen a few of these
dogs before. Bijeon free freeze. No, it's freeze, Bijeon Freeze.
Well whatever, great. Sorry. Producer Grace is sitting there and
she's like, well, what's it called? No one cares about that.
Speaker 7 (22:51):
I was, I would, but I'm sure everyone's very confused
by what we're doing right now.
Speaker 1 (23:03):
Why didn't you put my own dog in there? Do
you know what? Maybe we could start our own game
of the floor, but actually just have listeners call up
with their things that they're good at. We could do
this actually with listeners, because you know, there'd be people
who are much more skilled than what wek I know
it's going to be hard to find. We will scour
the nation, but we might find someone who knows dogs
better than bringing Hockley. Now, do you know something that
(23:24):
has like come into my algorithm recently? A plant?
Speaker 4 (23:27):
No?
Speaker 1 (23:28):
I mean I'm pretty hardcore on the plant content as well,
But no, I have been served quite a few private investigators.
And what I mean when you get on someone's explore page,
how did you end up here? No, there's a couple
of accounts that I follow that I am absolutely obsessed with,
and they're female investigators who go in and try and find,
(23:49):
like you know, husbands who are cheating, or like you know,
find the truth behind the mystery. And if you've ever
been in a relationship where you just like don't know
your elbow from your butt, like honestly, you might have
felt as though maybe hiring a private investigator is your
only hope in getting the answers that you're probably looking for. Okay, yeah, okay,
(24:09):
I mean I've never done it. I absolutely had moments
in my past relationship where I thought like, could I
be that person, like, could I hire someone? I'm surprised.
Is that a retrochical question? Can I answer it?
Speaker 2 (24:20):
I'm surprised you haven't ever done it, because it's definitely
like a tendency that I feel like could come out
for you.
Speaker 1 (24:26):
No, No, I don't think that. I think it's like,
you've got to be in a pretty hard situation to
get to the point of hiring a private investigator. Yeah,
but I would love to know how do people get
into this, Like what are the kinds of things that
they are trying to uncover? And like in terms of
when someone has a suspicion and actually getting someone and
employing them on the case, how often is it that
their suspicions are usually true? Or do have Natalia who's
(24:49):
on the phone. So Natalia is a private investigator. She
works for a company called Lipstick Investigations. Great, and she's
been doing it for twelve years. And Natalia, welcome to
the show.
Speaker 4 (24:58):
Hi, how are you going?
Speaker 1 (24:59):
Thank How did you get into this line of work? Like,
how did you get into being a private investigator?
Speaker 4 (25:05):
Well, my friends do like to call me a stalker
just a little bit time. Yeah, I always exposed the truth,
you know, Look, so twelve years ago it was just
a taste course. It was a certificate three in investigative services. Yes,
so unfortunately, look, I don't do about tape courses anymore,
(25:27):
so you have to go through a current private company.
So yeah, and so was.
Speaker 2 (25:33):
There something that happened in your life, like something that
sort of set you off? Were you trying to look
at things in your own life or a relationship, or like,
there has to be something that made you want to
solve these crimes.
Speaker 4 (25:43):
Look, when I was younger, I grew up watching like
Bronica Mars and James Bond and like Larra Cofts and
all that sort of thing. So I was like all
female empowerment, you know, and I always just to have
a lot of girlfriends who lets say, oh, look I
think my boyfriend's cheating on me. I just have all
these hard feelings there are a way that we can
find out if it's cheating. And I'm like, you know what,
I'll just following him and see what is up to
(26:04):
for the day. And it's just pretty much Yeah. So
it was just a knack from the beginning of it,
you know. So I just thought, okay, actually actually quite
good to this.
Speaker 1 (26:13):
So is that the most common kind of things that
you get called into where it's like women who think
their husbands are cheating on them? Or is there a
specific type of like I don't even know. Do we
call it a crime, a crime against emotions? I don't know,
but a moral crime? A moral crime? Like what is
the most frequent thing that you get called to do?
Speaker 4 (26:30):
So we do do a lot of infidelity based work,
So a lot of like cheating husband, cheating wife, boyfriend's girlfriends,
anything that you can think of, pretty much, and it's
looked quite unfortunate, but it's fortunate in a way because
there's always going to be a teeter to.
Speaker 2 (26:45):
Say, do you think there's like one case. I don't
know if you're like how much your allowed to tell us,
but is there a case that you can tell us
about that was just so crazy, like you couldn't even
believe it.
Speaker 4 (26:55):
Yes, early in my career, actually I had a jog
where a male was out with his female companion. She
was actually his mistress, and he had told his wife
that he was coming home and the wife had said
that to him that she was working late from work,
so she wasn't going to be in the house but
she actually was in fact in the house and inside
(27:16):
the closet the years. So he actually went to the
Marrital home and took his mistress to the home, not
knowing that his wife was actually inside the bedroom closet.
Speaker 1 (27:28):
Do that to yourself? What a dirt bag?
Speaker 4 (27:31):
Right?
Speaker 1 (27:32):
And then did she like string out at the right moment.
Speaker 4 (27:37):
So the male and his mistress actually went into the
Maryor home and then maybe about five to seven minutes later,
the mistress comes out, and then maybe about five minutes
after that, about six cock Car's name, the wife's just
running out trying to like attack the mistress. The husband's
trying to pull apart the wife and the mistresses. Oh
my god, it was intense. Like even just remembering it
(27:58):
right now, I lost for words.
Speaker 1 (28:00):
And that was just now. I want to know, when
you go out and you and you follow someone or
you're investigating someone, how often is it that the conclusion
is they've actually been cheating? Like is it kind of
a done deal that if you get called onto the
scene to kind of take over this, that the likelihood
that there's cheating there is pretty high.
Speaker 4 (28:19):
Well, technically, like once you have that feeling like you're
partner's cheating on you, and you hire us. We're the
last step. So for you to have to hire us,
you know that it's happening, and we're just there to
provide the evidence at the end of the day. So
there has been obviously some cases in my twelve years
of working that it's just sometimes paranoia like it's not happening,
(28:40):
that could be from a past trauma, from a past relationship,
and we're just there to be evidence based at the
end of the day. So I'd say seventy percent yes
if you think that your partners cheating on you and
your partner's cheating on you, and thirty percent that it
might just not be that and it's just an insecurity.
Speaker 2 (28:56):
Have you ever been sprung Like have you ever been
figured out by the so that you're tailing?
Speaker 4 (29:01):
Oh? Of course, Like I'm not invisible. I mean sometimes
I'm invisible, but no, Like, look, I thought I had
bright red hair early in my career, so I had
it died, I was sub known as a Yeah, I
was known as the spy with the bright red hair,
and now I've got bright blue hair. So like, look,
I'm not that invisible, but you'd be surprised people don't
(29:23):
actually do pay attention to you, Like if you're they're cheating,
you're not looking around and going hey who's that? Like
who's this? Who's that?
Speaker 2 (29:29):
Yeah, if I saw the same person like around my suburb,
you know, and I kept seeing them like someone with
red hair, my mind doesn't go to like, oh, they're
an investigator following me. You're just like, well, I've been
seeing that person a lot, Like you don't put the
two together, to be fair, though, Like I don't think
I have a very good like face name recall and
I reckon.
Speaker 1 (29:46):
I could see the same person a couple of times
before even realizing that there was like you know that
there was a toiling here. Do you think being a
woman has helped you in this industry or do you
think it's been a hindrance at all?
Speaker 4 (29:57):
Oh No, it's actually been a there's over many benefits
from being a female in his industry. You know, sometimes
you can get into nightclubs if you just flip with
the security guards a little bit. It's like, especially if
your subject is going into a nightclub, they just got
to security guards. He's like, I am a private investigator,
Like I think that that guy's cheating on his partner
and the security guards.
Speaker 1 (30:18):
They love it.
Speaker 4 (30:18):
They'll be like, oh my God, really, like can we
get on this? Like do you want us to help you?
It's like to write this go and yeah, like we'll
help you, like whatever you need, just tell us like
who is it? Who is it? And I'm like, well,
I can't tell you who it is? But they just
love it. But being a female, it's Yeah, there's so
many upsides to it. Like I said, you get into
more places people don't really pay attention to you.
Speaker 1 (30:39):
So yeah, Tlia, I find it's so fascinating. Like I said,
There's definitely been times in my past where I've contemplated.
I've never I've never hired one. If you never have, God,
I don't think I'm ever gonna have to my current husband,
but as current I have to hire someone like you
(31:00):
has been now. But God, you're doing God's work and Talia,
you're doing God's work.
Speaker 4 (31:05):
Oh. Sometimes, like, look, it is a high job. People
don't think that it's hard, but it is mentally demanding,
you know, and sometimes you're like you're there at your
client's worst points. You know, it's like they don't want
to be someone. Yeah, they don't want to hire someone
to see if their husband or wife they're cheating on them,
you know, and once you find out that they are,
and you give them the evidence, you kind of become
(31:26):
like a little bit of a counsel of them to know.
But in saying that, you can't really have a bias
opinion either. So some clients come to and they say, oh,
even my husband, a dictat, is cheating on me, and
I'm like, oh, no, I can't really say that.
Speaker 1 (31:38):
Yeah, totally.
Speaker 2 (31:39):
Oh, thank you, Natalia. It was a pleasure to talk
to you. And hey, if anyone's listening Lipstick Investigations, if
you if you've got a suspicion about a partner, you
know who to call.
Speaker 1 (31:48):
Yeah, you might get a boom and calls after this
thanks to.
Speaker 4 (31:50):
Talia, Thank you so much.
Speaker 2 (31:54):
We talk a lot about cheating here and on our
podcast Life Uncut, in terms of all different kinds of
relationship in infidelity, And I want to know, do you
think there's ever a time it's okay to publicly humiliate
somebody off the back of infidelity, which I know seems
like an obvious answer.
Speaker 1 (32:12):
Cheating is like the one thing that, like nothing riles
people up in when it comes to relationships as much
as the conversation around cheating does. Do I think it's
okay to publicly humiliate them? No, I think it makes
you a bit petty. But I've also been in the
situation where I've been cheated on and at the time
really thought about publicly humiliating them because you want, you
want some sort of indication. You want people to know.
(32:34):
You want like their friends and their family and their
mum to know like what an asshole they are.
Speaker 2 (32:40):
Of course, but there's something for me that doesn't sit
right with the idea of public humiliation. Ever, I don't
know why whatever even is done, there's something that when
I see it go down, I just really feel for them,
even if they've done the wrong thing. This is exactly
what has happened in this story online. There's a husband
that found out that his wife was cheating on him,
(33:00):
and it was his fortieth birthday party. So he had
this huge party with like family and friends, and he
got up to do his speech, you know.
Speaker 1 (33:07):
Like thank you for coming, blah blah blah blah.
Speaker 2 (33:08):
Yeah, Basically, he had known his partner was cheating on him,
so he saved it for this moment. He calls her
up on stage, and he makes it look like he's
doing this beautiful thank you and he has a gift
to her and how important she is.
Speaker 1 (33:21):
And all this stuff.
Speaker 2 (33:22):
He gets her to take a wedding ring off because
he alludes to the fact that.
Speaker 1 (33:25):
You know, she deserves an upgrade. He plans the kiss
of death on her.
Speaker 2 (33:29):
He basically kisses her like quite firmly and strongly. But
the kiss of death is this idea. It's like in
the It's like a mafia thing. Whence a mafia person
finds out that someone has betrayed them, they give them
what they call the kiss of death, which means like,
I know you've betrayed me and something's about to happen.
So he does that, which is very dramatic. Now you
need to listen to how crazy this is.
Speaker 4 (33:48):
After even though it's my event, get.
Speaker 5 (33:51):
Her a little song, right, I know everything, I know.
Speaker 1 (34:09):
Everybody, and.
Speaker 2 (34:11):
I wasn't.
Speaker 1 (34:16):
He sounds terrific.
Speaker 2 (34:18):
He goes on to say like he's seen some sexy things,
he's seen some body parts.
Speaker 1 (34:22):
He starts to go like crazy at her.
Speaker 2 (34:25):
The video goes so much longer than that, but he's
basically just staying in front of everyone, humiliating her even
though she's done the wrong thing obviously, but the fact
that this was so premeditated to save it for a
public moment get her up Lula into a false sense
of security that he's gonna like say she's amazing and
then go.
Speaker 1 (34:43):
Oh, he sounds nah. I think like listening to that,
he sounds so aggressive and sounds truly horrible. And I guess,
like I understand that if you've been cheated on, your
hurt and you probably won't have a big reaction everything,
but I don't know. I think listening to that, like
you almost come across as the villain your well, if
you come across so petty. I mean, I've definitely heard
of like people standing at the altar and waiting until
(35:05):
it was time to do their vows, and that was
the opportunity that they took to you know, tell everyone,
the family, the friends, everyone who's there, to tell them
that actually their partner had been cheating on them. But
we actually received a message which is you know, to
the pickup, which is kind of along this line of things.
So this was someone who works with an Australia who
works in a very prominent hospital, and it said this
(35:26):
one of the doctors and a senior executive at our
hospital got caught having an affair. The senior executive was
a woman, mind you. The husband of the exec used
her phone to send an email to leak their affair,
and the email was sent to the entire hospital staff.
Every single hospital staff. Thousands of people received the email
(35:48):
from her saying this is what I've done, and this
is like the person I'm doing with. It was like
was written by her, but it was written by her husband.
It was written well, actually there's a bit more detail
to this. It was written by the husband, and it
was saying, like just letting you on what they've been
doing while they're supposed to be on working hours. How humiliating.
Speaker 4 (36:05):
Look.
Speaker 1 (36:06):
But then is that okay? No, I don't think any
of it's okay. But at the same time, I also
understand it. I do understand why someone could be so
hurt and feel so betrayed that they act in a
way that's so not congruent with how they would normally
behave because they just want everyone to know what an
awful person their partner's been. Do I actually think it's okay?
Would I ever do it. No, I think it's totally petty,
(36:29):
but I also understand why some people feel that's the
only option to enact some sort of revenge.
Speaker 2 (36:33):
I remember when my ex many moons ago. Now I
was living his double life and he was marrying someone
else simultaneously, like complete double life.
Speaker 1 (36:41):
But I remember when I found out.
Speaker 2 (36:42):
All I wanted to do was out him to everyone
I knew, like I wanted to humiliate him, but I
didn't have it in me, so all I could bring
myself to do was steal all his toilet paper from
his house and next time we need a poop.
Speaker 1 (36:53):
He didn't anything to wipe his butt. I don't even
think that touched the size. Literally it didn't, and that's
don't think. No, he didn't. He wouldn't. Just had shower
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