What 3 Year Old Needs Skincare??

Hey Lifers,
Britt is struggling today. She’s come down with an illness and we are rolling the dice today.
Laura’s on her first outing without Poppy at 6 weeks old and she’s learnt that she’s not the most considered or prepared parent. 

Laura and Keeshia have both been sent beautiful cards from listeners and we truly do have the best listeners in the world. However, Britt has checked with reception and nothing. No deliveries for Britt 😂

Britt had a sleepover at Keeshia’s house and has used products that were not meant for her.
Is Oasis men’s Taylor Swift? The whole team was meant to go to the concert on the weekend but Keeshia ended up being the only one to make it and she’s never seen more affection or love be shared between millennial/Gen X men and she’s even been to football grand finals!

The other day Britt shared how a friend of hers had accidentally text the guy she had been briefly dating instead of her friend telling him that there were "no hot men on the plane" and that she was disappointed. We asked what you accidentally sent and your stories did not disappoint!

Shay Mitchell has launched a new children’s skincare brand called Rini that makes products like sheet masks for… 3 year olds. Shay has said that it was inspired by her own girls wanting to do ‘what mummy does’ with her face masks and that “Rini isn’t about beauty it’s about self-care.”

We speak about whether we are living in the final stage of capitalism where children’s unblemished skin is an untapped market and the conditioning of beauty standards in kids. At what age do you think kids should be introduced to skincare beyond sunscreen and gentle cleanser?

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Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:00):
Can I just read you this one message?

Speaker 2 (00:01):
First?

Speaker 1 (00:01):
The message batter and I said, I feel so sick.
I just want to hug a sad face. And he goes,
I'm hugging you with all my tentacles.

Speaker 2 (00:08):
This is squid.

Speaker 1 (00:11):
Do you want me to hug you?

Speaker 3 (00:12):
I know it doesn't do what it should do for me.

Speaker 2 (00:16):
I'm a bit like I, but I hate it. Turn
it off? And he said, three octopus, octopi, octopusses. Do
we call it an octopi an octopus?

Speaker 1 (00:27):
That's a million dollar question, Laura, And actually answer.

Speaker 2 (00:29):
I think it doesn't. I think it's just octopus octopy.

Speaker 1 (00:33):
It's just an octopus, octopuses. I don't octopussy, octopi. It's
not Octopi's octopuses.

Speaker 2 (00:41):
It's octopuses.

Speaker 1 (00:44):
Have you seen the octopuses.

Speaker 4 (00:45):
It's not octopus octopusses. Apparently, the most widely accepted plural
for octopus is octopuses, while some may use octopi, the
Greek derived octopodes or octopuses octos.

Speaker 5 (01:02):
Cut it edit deal, Let's go home, Hi guys, and
welcome back to another episode of Live on CD.

Speaker 2 (01:19):
I'm Laura.

Speaker 1 (01:20):
I'm just hanging on, but I'm also, Brittany britt sends
this message today.

Speaker 6 (01:27):
Oh, I thought, oh that's rock, that's rough Man's feeling
down already.

Speaker 1 (01:32):
It's just to give context because no one needs the context.
I was going to play it off like everything's fine.

Speaker 2 (01:37):
I don't even know if I'll make it in.

Speaker 3 (01:39):
I've tried to leave the house three times and I
have to run back to the toilet.

Speaker 2 (01:43):
I'm trying. I feel fine for like a few minutes.
Dump dump, dumb. You've been here and you're holding.

Speaker 1 (01:49):
On because there's nothing left in me. Yes, guys, I
wasn't gonna talk about it, but here we are.

Speaker 2 (01:55):
I got gastro Is that for need to make it
a podcast content?

Speaker 3 (01:59):
I do want to say, were rolling the dice. I'm
here without Poppy. It is my first outing out of
the house without her since she was born.

Speaker 2 (02:07):
I mean, the kid's only six weeks old.

Speaker 1 (02:08):
We're not sure where she is.

Speaker 3 (02:09):
No, I have a wonderful babysitter who came and she's
just taken her for a walk round.

Speaker 2 (02:13):
She's doing laps around the pool. Because it's not that
we're actually in.

Speaker 1 (02:16):
The city, but not even city city. There's nothing really around.

Speaker 2 (02:19):
She's doing laps around.

Speaker 3 (02:20):
The block, and I am keeping a very safe distance
away from you so that I can be back in
full fledge on this podcast.

Speaker 2 (02:26):
And no one come at me. Yeah they should.

Speaker 1 (02:29):
We're meters away from each other. We don't like each other,
so we don't touch, we don't make out. We're not
making out.

Speaker 2 (02:34):
Anymore, so much time together. It's weird when we hug.

Speaker 1 (02:37):
And I have sanitizer here and everyone gets a bit.

Speaker 2 (02:40):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (02:40):
I also just spray. I sprayed Britney with sanitizer like
it was perfume. So I think we're fine.

Speaker 2 (02:44):
She'd put my eyeballs, should be good to go.

Speaker 3 (02:46):
I just want to add. I mean, you know, I
know that I said I mentioned this a couple of times.
I did really say that I was going to have
a more considered maternity lead this time.

Speaker 2 (02:54):
You never said that I did. I was like, you know,
if I have number three, I'm going to do it different.
I knew you were lying. I did it the same.

Speaker 3 (03:00):
I did it exactly the same, if not probably worse,
to be honest, we were like, she's not having a
Yeah we're not. But I also do think that number
three makes you like the most casual parent, like I am,
so relaxed. I am so casual. Sometimes I'm like, where's
the baby? Oh, she's there, she's fine. Put someone put
the brake on the pram, Like I am just put

(03:20):
on the brack.

Speaker 2 (03:21):
That's a joke. Everyone, That is a joke.

Speaker 1 (03:24):
No.

Speaker 2 (03:24):
Like, is she live somewhere relatively flat? No, I actually
live on a hill. She live on a big hill.
How do you feel now?

Speaker 6 (03:30):
You said just said it was your first time away
from Poppy? No, I do outing to be fair.

Speaker 3 (03:35):
So Danny, who is a she's been our babysitter since
the girls were born, like since Marley was born.

Speaker 1 (03:39):
So I've known Danny for six years, very selfishly having
her own kids.

Speaker 3 (03:42):
And she's, yeah, she arrived today with her own baby,
and she was like, just she's got Poppy in the
pram and she's just wheeling around the block for a
couple of hours. I do feel weird being without her,
and I feel as though I miss her. But when
I say casual, I mean I am just like the
most relaxed parent. All the stuff that gave me anxiety,
I don't have anymore, Like the weird sounds that time,
and like the overpacking or like the planning.

Speaker 2 (04:03):
And I say this is someone who I left the house.
You definitely don't overpack every day you've come in to back.

Speaker 1 (04:09):
Fuck forgot the wipes, Fuck forgot the nap Like every
day you're not you're not packing, not overpacking.

Speaker 2 (04:14):
Okay.

Speaker 3 (04:14):
So I left the house to do some errands on Friday,
like just passed and it was like a day of errands.
So like left the house, I had to come Wait
did I come to North City?

Speaker 2 (04:23):
Who knows? Who cares, it's not important. I drove around.

Speaker 3 (04:26):
It literally was like from one errand to another errand
to another errand, and like so she done. You know,
and kids when they're six weeks old, they're shitting and
we in all the time, right, it's just like Brittany.
So just like Brittany today. So she'd done a couple
of you know, well she'd had any blowouts, but she'd
had a few nappy changes. Anyway, she'd been in the
car seat and I could hear her like I was like,

(04:46):
that's gonna be a good one. Anyway, I get her
out of the car seat and she has done like
a full blowout all up her back, all over her
onesie everywhere, And so I was like, okay, So it's
a onesie change. So I strip her off and I
do this in the boot as well. That's like my
change table when I'm on the go, and anyway, I'm
quite far away from Bondai.

Speaker 2 (05:04):
So I strip her off in the.

Speaker 3 (05:05):
Boot and I go to my handbag to get my
onesie out that of course i've packed. Ex I'm like
a really thorough parent who packs lots of things. And
then you realize you didn't put the handbrake on the car. No,
and then I really yeah, goes down there a baby
in the car roll away. Anyway, That's why we were
converhensive insurance. That's why I'm here without puppy today. Everyone,
that's the end of the story.

Speaker 2 (05:26):
Terrible to okay.

Speaker 3 (05:27):
So I go to my bag, I open it up,
no Onesie, and I was like, oh damn it, baby's
gonna have to just travel around in a nappy today.

Speaker 2 (05:34):
Go to get the nappy. No nappy, no nappy, no Onesie.

Speaker 3 (05:38):
I had her wrapped in a swattle like baby Jesus
for an hour and a half. Just that's okay, just
like Kumbai, Yeah, with my baby literally in just the
tidy swaddle.

Speaker 2 (05:50):
Lucky. It was a slightly warm day. Did she pooh again?
She wee? She didn't pooh, but I just was. I
was like, why is my child naked in a car seat?
This is too much. You've always wanted to be in
a mother, I really am. I grounded her.

Speaker 1 (06:03):
You're so far from an Earth mama. Sorry you were
not on Earth Mama. No.

Speaker 3 (06:07):
I think I'm just disorganosed chaos. I don't know if
it gets any better from here. And so then this
morning I was like, I'm in a pack, which means
I overpacked. I packed like an entire box and nabbies.

Speaker 2 (06:15):
Why do you just leave some in the car. Yeah,
that's why I did.

Speaker 3 (06:17):
I put the whole box in, which means that in
probably about a month, I'll run out again and then
I'll be without nappies.

Speaker 6 (06:22):
There's something that happened to me last week, Britt that
I'm sorry that you're feeling bad because I planned on
doing this that when you were feeling normal. So now
I kind of feel like I'm maybe kicking you a
little bit while you're already down. So two days ago,
if you listened to the start of us gun Cut,
you would have seen that Laura.

Speaker 2 (06:37):
Got a beautiful gift from Haley. One of our life
is Hailey, we love you, honestly.

Speaker 3 (06:43):
It's It was the only thing I had in my
car that day, thank god, because I hadn't taken it
out of.

Speaker 2 (06:49):
The car after.

Speaker 3 (06:51):
So she had no pants on. But she was wearing
a cute jumper for a six month old.

Speaker 2 (06:54):
So it had a pee imbroidered on it. Right. This
was a gift. Just to bring it up to speed
in case you missed it.

Speaker 3 (07:00):
One of our beautiful Life has sent a gift for
Poppy in the mail. She sent it to work and
it wasn't the gift so much. It just had the
most gorgeous card that came with it that meant a
lot to us or to me, so I read it
out on as gun card.

Speaker 6 (07:11):
Well, speaking of beautiful cards, last week I actually went
to our hairdresser.

Speaker 2 (07:15):
I have adopted this hairdresser, Alex from britt.

Speaker 6 (07:17):
He's fantastic, and as I went to leave, he's like,
oh my gosh, hang on, wait there, I've been keeping
this for you for weeks. One of my clients asked
me to give you this gift. She obviously knows that
you come here and that she loves the podcast, and
he handed me this beautifully wrapped card and this little present,
and so I brought it in and it says it's
this gorgeous card, and it says just a little note

(07:40):
to say thank you for being brave enough to share
your experience for the purpose of helping others. I feel
teary reading this cloud is incredible and it has changed
my life.

Speaker 2 (07:48):
You're amazing. Keep going.

Speaker 6 (07:49):
And she's put a heart with her name. I'm not
sure because it's an ADHD podcast. I'm never sure whether
to be like, this is the person who sent it,
but just a first name. And then she also gave
me this little key ring of a cloud.

Speaker 2 (08:02):
Oh that's so gorgeous.

Speaker 6 (08:03):
Is that the most beautiful thing in there?

Speaker 2 (08:06):
What she send in there? If you snort the card
you'll get some dex fed. But I just thought it
was so lovely. And she just left it with him
because she knew it would make his way to me.
We've got the best lifers, we do.

Speaker 5 (08:19):
You don't sorry, Has anyone checked reception today?

Speaker 1 (08:24):
Do I have any pending gifts?

Speaker 5 (08:26):
No?

Speaker 1 (08:26):
I'm really happy for you guys. It must be really
nice to get gifts from lifers. I wouldn't know, but
I can only imagine that it's a special feeling and.

Speaker 3 (08:36):
Just out of curiosity, why the fuck are maybe, Oh dear,
I know he said it last week, was saying it again.
We do feel very privileged to have you all, and
we love our community and price love joking. I don't
need anything.

Speaker 2 (08:49):
Britt lavesy as well.

Speaker 3 (08:50):
So if anyone wants to send a card to Britt,
no remember how you got You did get a delivery.
Everyone knows that Brit is obsessed with chicken nuggets and
one of our life has set her plush size. I
don't even know the like thirty centimeters. It was actual
the plush size of chicken dinosaurs fluffy.

Speaker 2 (09:03):
It was actually Delilah Tho. I kept one. I gave
one to the girls. It was like Delilah's favorite toy
for ages.

Speaker 1 (09:10):
I went to Keisha's house last week and I was like,
this is that's the wrong episode, but this is my
vibe adult sleepovers. We had an adult sleepover. I still
live in Sydney. I didn't need to stay there, but
I made a choice too. We had a wonderful time.
But Kisha, what I want to say, I think you
need to do some rearranging at your house. So I
it was like a hotel, right, the fun is off.

(09:32):
This comes off the back of the first time you
had a sleepover. You were like, Oh, I get why you're.

Speaker 6 (09:36):
So obsessed with sleep recommendations now, because sorry, the beds domains.
I've got it dialed. I've absolutely got it dialed. My
whole sleeping environment is great. But now you're telling me
I've got some functue that's off.

Speaker 1 (09:46):
It's not funk shue. It's not that. That's why I
keep coming back for sleepovers now the beds. So I'm
just gonna pop over for a sleep Keisha. The bed's
really comfy. But I got toast delivered to she made
the toet, she made my coffee.

Speaker 2 (09:57):
The bed was amazing.

Speaker 1 (09:58):
She tucked me in, she plugged my It was like
I was giving him like a five star I was like,
this is five star hotel.

Speaker 2 (10:04):
Until I went to the shower.

Speaker 1 (10:06):
So I'm in the shower. It's great, pressure felt nice.

Speaker 2 (10:08):
You got a lot of a lot of great products.

Speaker 1 (10:11):
The window.

Speaker 2 (10:12):
It's always nice having a shower in someone else's shower.
You can use all their things.

Speaker 3 (10:15):
So all these products lined up like their loofer in
places you shouldn't that a loofed my vagina.

Speaker 2 (10:21):
Just loof of your back crack put a hanging back up.
No one's gonna know.

Speaker 1 (10:23):
But then as I was you, it is cool, right
because everyone has so many different products lined up in
their shower. So Keisha's whole she had like a side
window and there was so many products. Some of them
were like medical base because I could see that obviously
her partner's a doctor. I was like, he's chosen that
one for sure. It was like whatever. Anyway, I was like, oh,
what am I gonna use? And then she was that
fancy rich girl that had ASoP in there, and I

(10:44):
was like, oh nice. So there's an ASoP pump, so
I'm like, I'm going for the azop. So I start
pumping and I'm like, somebody doesn't wash my body, Like
something doesn't.

Speaker 2 (10:53):
Feel right now.

Speaker 1 (10:54):
This aesop was amongst all the other condiments, shower condiments.
And then I swivel it around and it's dog shampoo.
She has dog shampoo amongst her body wash in the shower.

Speaker 2 (11:07):
I do too, to be fair, do yeah?

Speaker 3 (11:09):
Because I washed my dog in the shower and no
one else is showering in there, so I know on shampoo.

Speaker 6 (11:13):
Oh no, I think the difference is the fact that
it's ASoP, because I would never You guys know, I'm
a tight ass. There is no sorry to ASoP. It's
expensive as fuck. There is no way that I'm spending
that money, not only on shampoo for myself, but definitely
not for the dog that's about to go and roll
in mud two seconds later.

Speaker 2 (11:30):
My partner, he has moments, has been real.

Speaker 6 (11:33):
Bougie, like, he's really specific in particular, if he likes something,
he likes it and he will order it on repeat.

Speaker 2 (11:39):
So he won't buy it for you, but he'll buy
it for the dog. Yes, I was.

Speaker 6 (11:41):
Equally offended, and I was like, she doesn't need ASoP.

Speaker 2 (11:44):
She was found on this side of the road. That
does mean she doesn't need She needs more. She deserves this.
How did you go with your ASoP shampoo? No flathers,
no ticks off leaves.

Speaker 1 (11:54):
Today I'm thriving, And I was like, move you made,
I've just washed myself. I didn't have time to re
wash myself.

Speaker 2 (11:59):
I how to fly my ace. It's really now. I
smell like Bonnie. I smell like you don't well after
you sleep over it. I ended up going to Oasis.

Speaker 6 (12:08):
We were going to go together, but you ended up
not being able to come, and I devastated.

Speaker 3 (12:11):
I also was supposed to go, but then I thought
that taking Poppy to an Oasis concert was.

Speaker 2 (12:15):
Like too next level cash.

Speaker 6 (12:17):
I actually saw people there with a baby that was
proper newborn. It had the headphone things on. But I
did think it was an interesting choice.

Speaker 3 (12:23):
I was pretty keen on goal, like as in, like
I was committed, and then I think it was Otis
on Friday night and about Wednesday, my wonderful husband sat
me down and had like just a light kind of
conversation with me around invention. Yeah, he did, like, let's
call it an inter let's call it an intervention. He
was like, firstly, doing a lot more work than you

(12:45):
said you were going to, so that's okay.

Speaker 2 (12:46):
Gonna support you in all the ways I can.

Speaker 3 (12:48):
But also Oasis seems like an unnecessary commitment.

Speaker 2 (12:52):
But why are you going on.

Speaker 3 (12:53):
A boat trip to Oasis? And I was like, I
don't really know. He's like, do you know any songs?
And I was like, yeah, mo Wander.

Speaker 2 (13:03):
And I think they played that last. You'd have to
go for like five hours to.

Speaker 3 (13:06):
Go, Yeah, he was like, I don't think that taking
a six week old to Oasis is a good, good idea.

Speaker 2 (13:11):
Well, I'm glad you went. I had a brilliant time.

Speaker 6 (13:14):
Just wanted to say I do have a slightly controversial
opinion that will probably get me.

Speaker 2 (13:18):
Some heat, But I feel like it was like a
cultural moment.

Speaker 6 (13:21):
I feel as though I've never seen that amount of
people be so excited. And I actually heard a Zara
from Shameless talking about this last week because she went
in Melbourne the week before and she was talking about
how much female performers have to do, like it has
to be a production, you know, like pink swinging from
the acrobat things. Taylor Swift has so many costume changes.

(13:41):
The Gallaghers not so much. They actually just wear They're
very basic, like the zip up jacket kind of vibes.
I think Noel had just like a casual shirt with
a shirt underneath on. They did next to no crowd work,
but even the break's sixty years old.

Speaker 2 (13:58):
The guy ain't doing a cartwheel and a split.

Speaker 1 (14:00):
No, it's not that because they hate each other.

Speaker 6 (14:02):
They're just these like guys from Manchester that are just
back to basics, you know. And the music was incredible,
But I think Oasis is what Taylor Swift is for
ex and millennial men, as in, like when I was there,
I was like, this was the fanfare of Taylor Swift,
but now I'm getting the guy version. I have never
in my entire life seen so much emotion come out

(14:23):
of men. I've never seen them hugging so much. I
saw men kissing and.

Speaker 2 (14:28):
Like they really really took it up and not and
it was beautiful. It was very healing culturally. I was like,
we're getting there, healing, We're coming back together.

Speaker 1 (14:36):
Because they were one of the biggest bands in the
world for a long time, like they literally took over.
And if you think about it, I'm sure the age
demographic Keisha of the men that were there were probably
thirty five plus. I would say thirty five to sixty
because a lot of the younger people don't know them.

Speaker 2 (14:51):
Yeah, I'd say that the average age was probably about fifty.

Speaker 6 (14:54):
But obviously they've got people that you know, cross the generations,
and I think that a lot of people might have
even been there that younger that had their parents listening
to them.

Speaker 2 (15:02):
So there was a lot of like.

Speaker 6 (15:03):
Families, but particularly men, particularly men having the.

Speaker 2 (15:07):
Best night of their life, having the biggest feeling.

Speaker 3 (15:09):
I do think though, that if Taylor Swift doesn't come
back to her when she's sixty, no one's expecting the
lega tars and the splits. I reckon she could stand
there and just belt out a few tunes and we'd.

Speaker 2 (15:17):
Be okay with that.

Speaker 1 (15:18):
I do think the expectation is far different on women
than it is to man.

Speaker 2 (15:22):
One hundred percent.

Speaker 1 (15:23):
What men do you know? What male performer do you
know that goes out and puts on a level like that?

Speaker 2 (15:27):
Yeah, no, it's true.

Speaker 1 (15:29):
No Mars dancers, Michael Jackson.

Speaker 2 (15:31):
Timberlake technically does, but apparently not as good as he
used to.

Speaker 6 (15:35):
I think it is also genre specific. They obviously do
like Rick pop of the nineties. It's genre as well,
but it's also like.

Speaker 1 (15:42):
Their whole mo is give no focks and everyone knows
still now that they hate each other. They don't even
want to be there. They've literally said that it's like, hey,
this is a money to up. It's a money grab.
We got offered a lot of money. You'd fucking no,
we don't like each other.

Speaker 2 (15:54):
Which is good to perform.

Speaker 3 (15:55):
I was literally about to say that I was about
to say, I do think that come back tours are
nineteen nine percent.

Speaker 2 (16:00):
We've run out of money from the first tour.

Speaker 3 (16:03):
We made so much then that we went kind of silent,
spent it all, and now we're seventy and we got
some debts.

Speaker 2 (16:09):
I take a big mansions and some bills.

Speaker 1 (16:11):
I do think that's a part of their story though,
and why this tour is so big. Obviously they're a
huge band, but.

Speaker 2 (16:17):
Because they're so publicly hated.

Speaker 1 (16:20):
Each other for so long, and everyone knows that, the
fact that they've said, you know what, we will get
back together, everyone knows it is one time only, like
this is the only time that you will ever get
to see them again in existence. And there's something about
the story that makes you want to see them more.

Speaker 2 (16:35):
It does make it more alluring. I think it's because
we don't see it very much.

Speaker 6 (16:38):
Usually when bands are playing together, it's very much we
all love each other, and I mean, I don't know
if we want to talk about this now, but we
have a very exciting episode coming out on Friday with
a member of a female group. Were they still love
each other so much, can you imagine what the dynamic
would be like? If they actually hated each other, but

(16:59):
they got back to you just want to see it.
It was particularly interesting because most of the time, if
one of them was performing a song that they had written,
it was kind of like their song.

Speaker 2 (17:09):
They were the lead singer. The other one would leave
the stage.

Speaker 6 (17:13):
I didn't know if that was because they needed a
break or because they were just like, I impulse the
fuck out of it.

Speaker 2 (17:18):
Well, they probably also.

Speaker 1 (17:19):
Don't know what to do because they're not part of it.
So what are they just gonna sit on stage troddling
their thumbs like waiting for their time. I'd go of
stage two.

Speaker 2 (17:25):
They're probably an nap.

Speaker 3 (17:26):
I have a question because you just kind of seated
Friday's episode, which I'm not on because I was still
in my half baked MaterniT we leave, Are we dropping
over the bread crumbing or are we blow the load?

Speaker 1 (17:37):
There's been some blowing moments in my life.

Speaker 2 (17:40):
No, not my life.

Speaker 1 (17:41):
There've been some big moments in this podcast where I'm like, Wow,
this is a moment, like this is cool. I can't
beef I get to speak to this person. Kim Kardashi
in last week was one, but this was like taking
me back to about twelve, thirteen fourteen.

Speaker 2 (17:53):
That's how I felt when we got to interview Hanson.

Speaker 1 (17:57):
Similar, yeah, very similar songs of the time we have
on Life on cut A real life Spice Girl. Spice Girl,
a real life one. If you told me I was
going to sit down and talk to a Spice Girl,
I would have said, no fucking way.

Speaker 3 (18:13):
It is so cool, doesn't eyone remember like being back
in primary school high schol think we would have been
a high schoolouldn't weere we went?

Speaker 2 (18:18):
Spic girls were massive. You were in primary school. I
was in high school.

Speaker 6 (18:20):
I was actually one year old and Spice Girls got together,
which I told her and she was so lovely about it,
and I was like, I'm sorry, I kind of almost
missed the boat.

Speaker 3 (18:30):
I remember being at school and every like all your
girls and your friendship group would get assigned a Spice
Girl and you would play the role of one of them,
and you'd have to like and.

Speaker 2 (18:39):
Reenact or choreographs some dance to the song.

Speaker 1 (18:42):
And I always had My outfit was always the crop
top and I was sporty.

Speaker 2 (18:46):
Spice and I used to do cartwheels.

Speaker 1 (18:47):
We used to have the band out the front, and
I would always have the crop top on and I
was the sporty Spice one.

Speaker 2 (18:52):
And no one ever wanted to be Ginger Spice. They
just did it.

Speaker 1 (18:55):
Well, Jerry, I've lived out my dreams.

Speaker 6 (18:58):
We have Melsey Sporty on the podcast on Friday, well,
and can I just.

Speaker 1 (19:04):
Say she was sporty, super sporty.

Speaker 2 (19:06):
She was so likable. She's so funny.

Speaker 6 (19:08):
She's so down to earth, and I'm like, how you
this likable media training with like? But I feel like
it's the opposite. She's a scout, like she's from Liverpool.
She hasn't lost.

Speaker 2 (19:19):
That like really grounded, gritty.

Speaker 6 (19:22):
I had expectations. I was so excited and she still
blew those expectations out of the water for me. So
I absolutely loved the chat. And she's so generous with
her time as well.

Speaker 1 (19:31):
Definitely not media training, she's just so nice. She's just
so really nice.

Speaker 2 (19:35):
Laura, We're gonna go to Toddy's altogether.

Speaker 3 (19:37):
Oh my god, I'm down stamping up with the sparks girl,
don't stop that room on the episode.

Speaker 6 (19:43):
In episode But the thing that was really nice, and
it was a bit of an exclusive, is that she
revealed to us how she met her Australian partner.

Speaker 2 (19:51):
They've been together for about two and a half years now. Now,
let's not talk about the whole episode.

Speaker 6 (19:54):
Well, she's never spoken about how she met him before,
so yes, there's a little there's a little extra bread
crumb for what's coming on Friday. But we are going
to do something kind of special. You guys know that
YouTube is our whole jam at the moment, and so
what we're going to do is that.

Speaker 2 (20:09):
And there's a couple of steps to this. So let
me just take a second.

Speaker 6 (20:13):
On Thursday evening, we're going to release a video of
Mel on Instagram.

Speaker 2 (20:17):
If you comment on that video with what it says,
it will likely be Mel.

Speaker 6 (20:22):
We are going to send you a link to a
pre released screening of the entire episode that you can
watch on YouTube. So you'll only be able to get
it through that link if you're a subscriber to our YouTube,
and it's free, so it's not like a paid thing.
So yeah, the way we'll work, comment on the video
with the particular word, we'll send you the link and
then you can watch the.

Speaker 2 (20:39):
Whole episode early before it actually comes out. What's our words?
Should we go?

Speaker 6 (20:43):
Spicy comment? Spicy sporty. I was thinking, mel comment sporty.

Speaker 2 (20:49):
Clearly we have.

Speaker 6 (20:49):
Things to work out behind the scenes, but it will
be very clear in the cat shot.

Speaker 1 (20:53):
But yeah, you don't want to miss that. That was
like definitely a favorite of mine. So if you guys
listen to ask gun God, I was telling a story
about my friend that is deep in the dating trenches.
She's deep in the Mariana trench, which we all know
is a very deep do we all know that you don't,
But she's anyway, she's in a deep trench.

Speaker 2 (21:10):
But I'm living for her.

Speaker 1 (21:11):
Stories because she's in the front line. Really, she really is.

Speaker 2 (21:14):
She's taken it for the team at a moment, and then.

Speaker 1 (21:16):
She's delivering for us. She's delivering the goods. But I
was telling you about a story. She recently went to
Melbourne with a friend that were on different flights and
so she was messaging her friend, she was messaging a
guy she was seen simultaneously. She went to message her
friend and say there's no fitties on the plane. And
now she's UK based, so fitties mean like fit hot guy.

(21:37):
So she was trying to tell a friend that there's
no fitties here.

Speaker 2 (21:39):
But she was writing it to the guy that she
was started dating.

Speaker 1 (21:43):
So she messaged this poor guy kept going like just
so you know, there's no one hole on the plane.

Speaker 2 (21:47):
Anyway.

Speaker 1 (21:47):
This went back and forward for a long time, but
we had a laugh and I thought, oh, she's not alone.
I remember that the reason Askuncut started was because I
accidentally sent a hideous photo to the guy that I
was dating, and I was supposed to send it to
my sister. We did a call out, what did you
accidentally send?

Speaker 3 (22:03):
I did notice, Keisha in that episode of Asking Cut
when I was listening back that you deleted out how
I said I sent a message to my sister about
my mom, but I actually send it to my mom.

Speaker 2 (22:12):
Is really good though, I'm glad.

Speaker 3 (22:15):
I was like, that's actually probably a really I don't
think I did.

Speaker 2 (22:18):
No, I don't think she no. I'm pretty sure you
just must have been distracted. Want me to cut it out?
I don't think I did.

Speaker 1 (22:25):
Are you sure that's in it?

Speaker 2 (22:26):
Just recapping on that.

Speaker 3 (22:28):
So I was bitching about my mom and I sent
it to my mom.

Speaker 2 (22:33):
I love my mom. But she she was like, that's okay, sweetie,
And I was like, oh God, dig up. Laura dig up.

Speaker 1 (22:39):
All right, let's get into it. What did you accidentally send?
I accidentally sent a pick of my sexy youngdies to
the undertaker that was organizing my mom's funeral.

Speaker 2 (22:47):
Oh that's do we call them an undertaker? Yeah, that's
their name. My granddad was an undertaker. At one point.

Speaker 6 (22:52):
Once said that they were carrying like the body down
a set of stairs, and because of all the gases
in the body, the person like half sat up and
all these gas came out like a burp, and they
thought that it was the person was still alive.

Speaker 2 (23:04):
To be fair, that's pretty much Brittany at the moment.
She's I called it gas.

Speaker 3 (23:08):
Today we've edited out a few burps and a few
farts anyway, okay, no.

Speaker 1 (23:12):
No farts, no, not yet, not yet, one burp, several whatever.

Speaker 3 (23:17):
I accidentally sent an engagement invite to the wrong person.
I sent it to the guy who cheated with my
now husband's ex girlfriend.

Speaker 2 (23:24):
This is really confusing. He accepted the invite.

Speaker 3 (23:27):
And I very awkwardly had to tell him that it
was an error.

Speaker 2 (23:32):
That's so funny. Oh why did he accept it?

Speaker 3 (23:36):
Surely you're like, I mean free feed, nice to mingle
and meet some new people. Weddings are always a lovely event.
I've been to some that I don't know the people
that well, okay, my nice's time. My friend and I
went on separate dates.

Speaker 2 (23:46):
One night.

Speaker 1 (23:47):
My date went to the toilet and I message saying,
how are you going? I ment to send it to
my friend to ask her how her date was going.
So she's asking how his shit was going. It was
like a toilet during a shit and she's like, how
you going in there? Like he's like, fine for asking.

Speaker 3 (24:01):
Yesterday, our friend asked me to send a pick and
video of a resort I stayed in as she is
considering booking it and no idea how. But instead of
sending it to her, I sent it to a guy
I knew from high school and didn't realize until later
that afternoon when he sent me a message saying it
was like a nice holiday, So that's innocent.

Speaker 6 (24:18):
I imagine being the person receiving it, you'd be like,
why on earth you said?

Speaker 2 (24:21):
Like, this is such a weird way to brag.

Speaker 1 (24:23):
This is a longer one, but it just funny. A
few years ago, a group of friends and I had
been playing cards against humanity. Now, if you know the game,
it's the opposite of PC. When organizing the night, we
had a group called Cards against Humanity. So the next day,
after a few drinks playing the game, I messaged the
group saying, Hey, I wish we could all enjoy another
night reveling in Daniel Ratcliffe's asshole. Now for context, this

(24:47):
was one of the cards in the game. Fast forward
a few hours, and when I hadn't heard from the group,
I was thinking, Wow, tough crowd, and I decided to
message again. To my horror, I had instead sent it
to the local builder who had to our home the
day before, to quote our renovation.

Speaker 3 (25:02):
Sure Li wrote, imagine getting a rogue message from someone
that was I wish we could revel in Daniel Ratcliff's
asshole again.

Speaker 2 (25:12):
You'd be like, what the fuck? What happened?

Speaker 3 (25:14):
When I was at a quote this is good? My
ex and I were in the middle of separating. I
screenshot his messages and sent them to a friend, but
I actually sent them to him, bagging him out. Oh
we've all done that, Yeah, but and I did once.
Yeah on the toilet, Nah, a different one and this
reminds me of it. So I was going through a breakup.
I'd been in relationship for like three years.

Speaker 2 (25:34):
We lived together. He was a lovely one that every
soft and I'm like, oh, he's just nice. It just
wasn't right.

Speaker 3 (25:38):
I'd gone and moved into a girlfriend's house, and he
thought that maybe I just needed some time, and I
was just like, you know, figuring some things out.

Speaker 1 (25:44):
I thought you were coming back.

Speaker 2 (25:45):
He thought I was coming back. Yeah, he had hopes
had that time.

Speaker 3 (25:48):
Anyway, what dash those hopes is when I accidentally sent
him all the rental listings that I was looking at
instead of sending them to a girl. And so I
took a screenshot. I took a screenshot off my desktop
and sent something to him. But in all the tabs
was just like all of the rentals that I was
looking at. He was like, yes, so I guess where
I guess you're moving on.

Speaker 1 (26:06):
You've never said that.

Speaker 3 (26:07):
I just remembered it when I saw that, and I
was like, oh, that's right. I was at an asshole.

Speaker 1 (26:11):
After six years, sometimes we can still be hit with
those memories.

Speaker 2 (26:14):
Yeah, trauma.

Speaker 3 (26:15):
I do put things into a box up in a shelf,
and every source and I go through that filing cabinet just.

Speaker 2 (26:19):
For you guys, listen. Listen to this one.

Speaker 1 (26:22):
I accidentally messaged my mom saying, oh, can you just
do it in a cup and I'll use a syringe.

Speaker 2 (26:26):
I can't be fun to have sex straight to the mom.
Do it in a cup and I'll use a syringe.

Speaker 3 (26:38):
When I was a teenager, I actually text my mom
instead of my boyfriend about how it felt when he.

Speaker 2 (26:43):
Came inside of me and how it turned me on.

Speaker 3 (26:45):
For a context, my parents are hardcore born again Christians.

Speaker 1 (26:50):
Oh my god, you would die, especially with how like
the detail I love when he comes in me.

Speaker 2 (26:57):
Oh god, okay, last one.

Speaker 3 (27:00):
Instead of this is something you'd do, Laura, I probably
have done it, it was me. I sent this in instead
of texting my husband. I posted in my work group
chat about how I just had to fish my son'
shit out of the toilet with my blade with.

Speaker 5 (27:11):
My bare hands, because shit, it was actually my blocked toilet.

Speaker 2 (27:17):
But the thing is, I would send that, but mean
to send it to my work chat.

Speaker 3 (27:20):
I want people, because I wear your work. I want
you guys to know what I have to go through
in a day. You have no idea, but the bare
hands part, that's a choice.

Speaker 2 (27:28):
Put some gloves on. You don't have to go in
raw dog. Sorry, who has gloves sitting around the house?
I have a box of.

Speaker 1 (27:34):
To clean up BONDI shit. I have a box of gloves.
Shit once, but I have them from my medical days.
But I had a box of I have one hundred
gloves now they're great, whole box of gloves. Best thing
I ever did. I'm not putting.

Speaker 2 (27:46):
I'm not fishing out a raw do you know what
I think it?

Speaker 3 (27:48):
It's because when you're a parent, you become desensitized to shit,
so you'll fish.

Speaker 2 (27:51):
It out anywhere.

Speaker 3 (27:52):
I'll pull it out of a buttole if it's stuck
in there, it's fine with your bare hands. Actually, yeah,
you know how. Sometimes a dog will eat a hairball
and then bit will be inside them. The other bit
will be hanging by a hair Lola's had that before,
so I had to give her hand.

Speaker 2 (28:05):
Oh why Lola eating hair I don't know. If she's four,
she'll eat anything.

Speaker 3 (28:09):
Vision Okay, all right, I have a question for you guys.
You can answer it metaphorically in your own head if
you like. How young do you think is too young
to start on skincare?

Speaker 2 (28:21):
Like starting, start, Start, on birth. Get that baby's skin
nice and glow. Everyone.

Speaker 1 (28:26):
You know how much I love skin.

Speaker 3 (28:27):
Well know that this has been going around for a
while because you guys might remember Drunk Elephant was in
a bit of Hot water a while ago for advertising
their brightening vitamin C serum to really like like teenagers
were going hot and crazy for it, and like we
all know, teenagers don't need vitamin C serum.

Speaker 2 (28:40):
What they need is apricot scrub. Okay, goddamn it and
the ives.

Speaker 3 (28:45):
You need to scrub your skin until it's red, raw
and bare, because we all did it and you deserve
it to.

Speaker 1 (28:49):
No, absolutely, do not do that. That's the worst advice you.

Speaker 3 (28:51):
I know, but we did, and we'm okay, we'll get
into this. But the reason why we're talking about this
is Shaye Mitchell. If you don't know who she is,
because I didn't know who she.

Speaker 1 (28:59):
Is, but you don't know who anyone is. Shane Michilli
is a She's a very successful actress from Pretty Little Liars,
which is like six seasons or something. She'd done loads
and then she sort of she sort of faded away
from the acting scene and she got married, had kids
and went into business.

Speaker 3 (29:13):
Yeah, and she's also Yeah, she's an entrepreneur. And I've
looked at her social media and I would say that
she kind of without meaning to, I would definitely say
that she sits within a bit of an influencer space
as well, because her kids are very front and center
on her social media and she does a lot of
different brand work and whatnot.

Speaker 2 (29:29):
Her kids are involved in it.

Speaker 3 (29:30):
So she has come under a fire and gotten herself
into a bit of hot water with the new brand
that she is releasing. So she's just started as children's
skincare brand that's called Rennie. It's co founded with another mom.
Her name is Esa Song, and this skincare line is look.
It's branded really cute, it's got really nice packaging. The

(29:50):
picture though, however, that they used to launch on social
media is an extremely young girl wearing a hydration sheet mask,
and it says that the line is aimed at young
children ages three plus and it launches with such products
as a sheet mask featuring cute animal designs like puppies
and unicorns and pandas a hydrogel facial mask and after

(30:12):
sun facial mask for children.

Speaker 2 (30:14):
Dun dun, duh.

Speaker 1 (30:15):
Before we unpack it, I want to read her response.
So she said her girl's curiosity at birthday parties and
face paint disasters was the inspiration behind this brand quote.
This has been three years in the making, inspired by
my girls, the curiosity and all the little moments that
made me realize how early it starts, from birthday parties
and face paint to wanting to do what mummy does

(30:37):
with her face masks. It was only a matter of time.

Speaker 4 (30:40):
Now.

Speaker 1 (30:40):
This is an Instagram story post that she did. She clarified,
Renny isn't about beauty. It's about self care, about teaching
our kids that taking care of themselves can be fun,
gentle and safe. Kids are naturally curious, and instead of
ignoring that, we can embrace it with safe, gentle products
that parents can trust and sweet moments that bring us closer. Now,

(31:01):
it's been very divisive in the comments, and there's a
lot of different subgroups that have threads about.

Speaker 2 (31:06):
Here a new one.

Speaker 1 (31:07):
Well, yeah, but there are a lot of She's got
a lot of support as well. But it's aimed at
age three plus. I think that is insane that a
three year old should even have skincare on their radar.
They don't even know what skin care is. They don't
know what face mask is. And I don't care how
curious your kid is at three.

Speaker 3 (31:23):
No, And I also like, I mean, that's clearly what
people have gotten irate about. I think if she hadn't
put an age demographic on it at all, if she
hadn't aged it, I actually think she would have gotten
away with it, because there are so many skincare brands
that are out there that are aged, and they are
marketed and targeted to children, and they fly under the radar.
They do it through their packaging, they do it through
their types of advertising, through their hooks. The reason why

(31:46):
I think that she's really come under fiery is because
she's said for ages three plus, which just sounds absolutely ridiculous.
The only thing I do question is it's not like
she's put together a three step skin routine.

Speaker 2 (31:57):
It's not like she's saying babies need to tone, wash
and moisturize.

Speaker 3 (32:01):
She's just said, Okay, she's created these sheep masks, which
I do agree sits in a fine line of being
like absolutely inappropriate for children, But I think more so
it's just adds to this concept that we constantly have
to consume it's capitalism. It's like, how else can we
make money or brand things that are targeted to the
advertising of children and make money off this type of
increased consumerism.

Speaker 6 (32:22):
That's actually exactly what one of the comments on her
post read it said.

Speaker 2 (32:26):
It was by Rebekelly twenty one.

Speaker 6 (32:29):
We're living in capitalism's final boss level, where a child's
unblemished face is just another untapped market sell a calming
face mask so they can relax from what exactly snack
time existing.

Speaker 3 (32:42):
I just want someone to make a sheet mask of
a baby's face so that I can wear it, because
every time I look at my children's skin, I'm like,
it's so perfect.

Speaker 2 (32:48):
I want to climb inside that face. It's just too much,
too fun. We know kind ablecta of me.

Speaker 1 (32:53):
We know kids don't need skin care. We know they
should have moisturizer. On everyone's post, some moisturize your whole
Yeah they are you supposed to moisturize your baby body.

Speaker 2 (33:00):
I think they're supposed to have sunscreen.

Speaker 1 (33:01):
No that I think we little baby Yeah, babies and kids.

Speaker 2 (33:05):
Of course you're supposed to keep moisturing.

Speaker 1 (33:07):
It's otherwise you can get dehydrated skin like a normal moisturizer,
normal suncream.

Speaker 2 (33:11):
That's it.

Speaker 1 (33:11):
But it's the idea of projecting beauty standards onto kids
that don't even know what a beauty standard is, so
all of a sudden. I mean, we didn't have to
face that till probably maybe fourteen or fifteen, which was
quite late. I think because we didn't have Instagram, we
didn't have a comparison culture when we were growing up.
It is so much younger now, Like I have friends
with kids who have seven year old who are wanting

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to put lashes on their eyes, who wanting to put
their nails on, and that's because it is everywhere, and
if they don't feel like they're doing it, they feel
left out. So I understand. I don't want to shit
on Shane Mitchell at all. It didn't make me enraged.
I don't think it's necessary at all, but it didn't
make me enraged. I think I understand it because that's
where society's gone now. That doesn't mean I agree with it.

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I think she just market it incorrectly.

Speaker 2 (33:55):
So she said.

Speaker 1 (33:56):
When I did some reading, she was saying, Look, the
idea came from I was on a family holiday in Mexico.
One of my girls got too much sun and needed
to put some Alvira on her face, and like, that's
what I did. So I started to put something on
a face and then she didn't like it because it
was sticky and yucky. And that is where my idea
was born. And I was like, oh, what if we
have something that kids love that is just good for them?

(34:17):
And I know there's nothing like toxic in there. I
know it's really gentle. And she's like, that's where it's
stemmed from.

Speaker 6 (34:22):
But those products already exist though, right Like those things
already exist. The thing that didn't exist is that the
child was the targeted consumer, you know. And I think
there's been a really big push in the last probably decade,
maybe longer, I don't know, but to have these clean, nontoxic,
non harsh that are being used on children, and I
think that a lot of mums get behind that. The

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difference is is that the actual, like the marketing of
this product is literally done on a.

Speaker 2 (34:48):
Child that's four years old. And that's what feels so uncomfortable.

Speaker 1 (34:50):
The targeted consumer isn't kids, kiss the consumer is still parents.
The kid, the three year old's not buying it.

Speaker 2 (34:56):
They don't have any money.

Speaker 1 (34:57):
It's made to look cute, but the targeted audience are
still parents.

Speaker 2 (35:01):
I have a couple of different feelings about this.

Speaker 3 (35:03):
Firstly, I mean, regardless of the sun's safety aspect, you
shouldn't be making an aftercare for your kids because you
should be protecting your kid's skin in the first place
from sun damage, rather than trying to correct the damage
that you've allowed your kids to because like, if your
kids get sunburned, that's your fault, that's it.

Speaker 2 (35:18):
I do agree. I disagree with that. I disagree with that.

Speaker 1 (35:21):
There is so easy in Australia especially, you can put
suncream all day. We've just seen that, like thirty of
the top brands of suncream haven't done anything. It is
so easy to get burnt, even with protection.

Speaker 3 (35:32):
Do you want to know why I disagree with it
because I have a six year old and she's had
sunburn and I'm talking mild sunburn once in her entire life,
once the tiniest bit of pink. It is so easy
to avoid it if you are diligent with sun protection.
Make your kids wear hats, make your kids wear sunscreen.

Speaker 6 (35:47):
What brit is referring to when we actually have an
episode coming up with a dermatologist quite soon. Where we
unpack a lot of this is that the testing in
Australia of sunscreen products, I lack a lot of the brands,
so no, the Australian ones are, but a lot of
the that are sold in Australia do not get their
SPF tested in Australian conditions, and so that's why there
was that whole thing this year.

Speaker 2 (36:07):
A lot of you will be like, oh, yeah, I
saw stuff.

Speaker 6 (36:09):
About this in the news where all of these sunscreens
were having to be taken off the shelves because they
weren't at the SBF that they claimed to be. So
I think, you know, there is a level where I'm like,
if you think you're putting SBF fifty on your child,
but what you're actually putting on is SBF six.

Speaker 3 (36:24):
Yeah, but I'm not just talking about that though. There
needs to be three forms of protection. Firstly, I mean,
and I know that we're not getting into this, but
put a hat on your kids, put sunscreen on, put
long sleeve swimmers on so that they can't get burnt
through it, and then also be in the shade if
it's the middle of the day, Like I will you
know say that to the cows come home and look.
I think that the most important part of this, and
like what you're saying, Kish is that it's the advertising

(36:46):
to kids. I know it hasn't been yet brit in
terms of like it's the adults who are going to
be buying this, but a lot of young children, not
three year olds they don't have any income, but a
lot of young kids, like ten year olds, eleven year olds,
have a disposable income where they're getting pocket money, they
are actually receiving income for doing jobs around the house
or whatever that's really standard and really normal, or they're
saving their extra from their lunch money. And a lot

(37:08):
of them who have access, especially to social media, are
being targeted by these brands. It is conscious, it is intended,
and we already have childcare, like I said, childcare aimed
and focused skincare brands that exist in Australia. The first
one that comes to mind is All Kinds.

Speaker 2 (37:23):
Have you guys ever walked into an All Kinds shop?

Speaker 3 (37:25):
You probably would never walk into an All Kinds shop
cash because you're not their target market. I walked past
it yesterday in Buene Junction. This is no shit on
the brand at all. Like their products are really cute.
The girls love them. They love their lip glosses. They
create these like little lip glosses that come with an
attached keychain so you can clip them onto your school backpack.

Speaker 2 (37:42):
Right, Like that's where it starts.

Speaker 3 (37:43):
But everything it's from, like foaming body washes and mooses
and different things, it's all aimed and packaged at children.
It's advertised to children, and you walk past that store
and a kid thinks it's a toy store, they just
b line for it. Right, So we already have brands
that do that. We already have grow To skincare from
Zoe Foster Blake. It's a skincare line that's created for children.

(38:04):
But I would agree that that has been specifically marketed
to the adults who are already buying go To and
they want something that they know is safe and toxins
free and etcetera, etcetera. I think where this becomes something
that people get really angry about, it's twofold one. It's
the three year old age bracket that we've put in it,
Like children don't need a three step routine. It's the
sheep mass aspect that feels very adult and also the

(38:27):
fact that it's attached to a personality. I think when
a brand is faceless, they receive less heat the fact
that she is the figure behind the brand, and she
is the person, it's easier to pinpoint and go, you're
the problem. It's not the brand that's the problem. It's
the person that becomes kind of like the head on
the beast.

Speaker 2 (38:44):
That's a greater issue here.

Speaker 3 (38:45):
And I do think that we there is so much
over marketing that happens to children, and there is so
much adultifying kids in the clothes that they wear, especially
young girls, in the clothes that they wear, in the
way that they dress, they do their hair, in the
makeups that they can access, in the skincare. We really
age up small young girls far faster than we do

(39:08):
small young boys.

Speaker 6 (39:09):
I think that I was thinking about, you know, when
we were kids and we all had Lipsmacker, Do you
guys remember that, Like there were all these makeup brands.
I know, I used to have makeup that I would
put on and some pretend high heel shoes, and like,
I think that we've kind of come to terms with
the fact that especially little girls and maybe little boys,
but for me, I was a little girl, so I
always wanted to kind of mimic what mum was doing.

Speaker 2 (39:31):
And this is the first time.

Speaker 6 (39:33):
That I've really seen that we're now extending that into skincare,
and I'm like, oh, wow, we actually are turning over
a bit of a new page. Like look, maybe this
has existed for longer than I'm aware of. I obviously
don't have children of my own, but for some reason
this did feel.

Speaker 2 (39:48):
Like it was a step too far for.

Speaker 6 (39:49):
Me, and I was like, this is just getting insane,
Like the expectations of what parents are supposed to be
getting for their children so that they can be cool
and they can be fitting in is getting out of control.

Speaker 2 (40:00):
Worry, would your kids even stand still long enough to
have a sheep?

Speaker 3 (40:03):
That's the ridiculous thing of it, right, Like Lola would
put a sheet mask on and then she'd be so
sensory she'd take it off within two seconds.

Speaker 2 (40:08):
But I do think it's the conditioning, That's what I mean.

Speaker 3 (40:11):
I don't know if it's necessarily us as adults being
like so done with the beauty standards. I think we're
done with the conditioning that children are exposed to because
it starts so so young, and I don't have it.
Don't get me wrong. I don't have an issue with
things like smackos. I don't have an issue with the
girls having lip gloss. I don't even have an issue
with the girls playing with makeup as a creative outlet,

(40:31):
like they've got little makeup sets. If they want to
play with it and put it on, so long as
they're not doing it because they feel.

Speaker 2 (40:36):
Like it's for a beauty reason, They're.

Speaker 3 (40:39):
Just doing it because it is akin to face paint,
that's fine. I think it's it's an issue when we
have situations like the Sephora girls and the Sephora kids
and the drunk Elephant kids who are, like I said,
eleven years old. They have been conditioned through social media
and they've decided that they want the vitamin C serum
which is going to make their skin wrinkle free. And

(41:00):
Pauless like your skin has already wrinkle free in Pauless,
you're eleven. So I think my issue is the conditioning,
not so much what the product is. It's walking into
and I don't want to say the brand because we
went in there on the weekend to go and get
some kids clothes. It's walking into a really well known
kid's clothing shop and seeing that all the kids, the
little girls close from three year old up until whenever middrifts,

(41:25):
Like why is a three year old needing a mid.

Speaker 2 (41:27):
Drift or a crop top? Why are they needing cropped pants?
Why are the.

Speaker 3 (41:30):
Shorts for little girls short shorts, whereas the shorts for
boys are normal length shorts. For me, it's the confusion
as to why we are treating children as though they're adults,
and why are we providing products for them as though
they're adults.

Speaker 6 (41:43):
The one line I really wanted to kind of hone
in on is that Shay's response to this was really
isn't about beauty, It's about self care.

Speaker 2 (41:50):
Do kids even fucking need self care? Like? Where do
we stand on that? Like, at what point do we
introduce self care to a child?

Speaker 3 (41:58):
Kids need self care, but they don't need an adult
version of self care. We do self care as adults,
like putting on a face mask, listening to meditation, whatever
it is. Kids don't need that version of what self
care looks like. They need to go outside and play,
They need to have high time. Yeah, they need quiet time.
They need their parents to be involved. In their activities.
Their version of self care is getting a hug, is

(42:20):
having their head scratched yas.

Speaker 2 (42:22):
Yeah, so free is all.

Speaker 3 (42:24):
Of those connection points, and like, you know, you might
maybe there might be a mum out there who maybe
does a sheet mask with their little girl as a
once off, little funny.

Speaker 2 (42:33):
Cute thing to do.

Speaker 3 (42:35):
But if a child starts to feel like they need
to work this into their weekly routine in order to
upkeep some sort of standard, then I think that that's
really like quite a deep and gross issue that we're
imprinting these things on kids so young that they need
to buy into the beauty standards that adults have already
been sold for so many years.

Speaker 6 (42:53):
I just featured a child honest Sunday afternoon being like,
I need my face mask because I've got daycare.

Speaker 2 (42:58):
Tomorrow and I'm just really stressed.

Speaker 1 (42:59):
Out of all. They're like, yeah, I think I've had
good They're gonna.

Speaker 3 (43:01):
Look wund their teenagers or it's like that one week
where they're like, it's my full body shower what do
we call it?

Speaker 2 (43:07):
And everything shower?

Speaker 3 (43:07):
Yeah, they're like seven and they're like, I've got to
have my everything shower.

Speaker 2 (43:11):
Mom. You're like, well, the fuck? What do you hate?

Speaker 3 (43:12):
And everything?

Speaker 1 (43:13):
Do you know what?

Speaker 2 (43:13):
I like? Though?

Speaker 3 (43:14):
Okay, and I do think we're going to see a
shift in this because most of the advertising to children
these days happens across social media, it really does. Like
TikTok's and Instagram. It's such an insidious and easy way
for brands to access kids because they know that kids
are on the site. YouTube is another enormous one. Like
so much advertising happens on YouTube kids, and you would
think a brand like this is very brand safe for children,

(43:34):
but it's the messaging behind it that's not brand safe.
With the changes that are happening in Australia, with kids
no longer being able to access social media or YouTube
until they're sixteen years old, I think that's going to
have a massive impact and the access that brands have,
and in the power that parents have to protect their
children from that access as well. So I think that
we will see a shift, maybe not in places like

(43:55):
the States, but I definitely think in Australia we might
have a greater chance of preserving their childhood.

Speaker 2 (44:00):
For a little bit longer. It is our suck and
our sweet of the week. Brittany, what is your suff.

Speaker 1 (44:05):
My suck is that I couldn't go to Oasis. I
was supposed to be going to Oasis. Keisha was only
going because I got us tickets.

Speaker 2 (44:12):
Well we all did. We were meant to go for work,
but it didn't happen.

Speaker 1 (44:14):
But I couldn't go, and I just had so much.
I had some personal things happening that I had to
go and deal with, and I just couldn't go. And
it was not an easy decision, mind you. It was
traumatizing and I will never forget it. But I did
listen to the set list all day thinking of you, Kisha.

Speaker 3 (44:30):
Y're my wonder and my suite was Maya is I
get to like every time I get to spit see
baby Maya is my sweet.

Speaker 1 (44:39):
But baby Mayra is now walking. She's like I took
her a swimming lessons. She's doing She's really thriving. So
my sweet is just going and seeing her. And I'm
the only person outside of Jane Sherry, like outside of
her parents that she's really comfortable with. She still gets
a bit scared for people, just want anyone us to
hold up, but she will run to me every time,
and I like, that's a You're in the fail.

Speaker 2 (45:00):
Yeah, that is such a flex flex.

Speaker 1 (45:02):
She fell over the other day and heard herself and
was crying and Sherry picked her up and she wanted
me flex flaering. I mean, yeah, the briberies worked.

Speaker 3 (45:12):
Okay, So my suck for the week is Pubby had
her six week vaccinations last week on Thursday, which do
you know what?

Speaker 2 (45:19):
It's my suck. But actually was fine, casual mom. The
kid stab her again, give a five. No, I forgot
how aggressive it is.

Speaker 3 (45:28):
They have to do like two jabs, like one jab
in each leg at the same time, and you've got
to like they do, and they've got such tiny, little
little chicken legs and then they let little chicken legs out.

Speaker 2 (45:39):
On both sides.

Speaker 3 (45:40):
So anyway, she got her axes and then she was
a bit off for a day or two.

Speaker 2 (45:43):
Whatever.

Speaker 3 (45:43):
She's she's genuinely fine. But I don't like seeing her cry.
She never cries.

Speaker 2 (45:47):
Why don't they do it like how they do with dogs.
They distract them with a treat.

Speaker 3 (45:51):
Well, I was going to try and breastfeeder. I was like,
can I not just breastfeeder and then you can do
like one and two? Because I feel like I was
if I was feeding her she would be way way
better with it, and they were like, no, we just
find it easier and faster to do two at the
same time and then you can give her a feed afterwards.
So anyway, she had a vaxis. It was fine, And
my sweet for the week is so if you listen
to Dude Earning Dads, you might know this, but I

(46:12):
hadn't really spoken about it on here much. Ellie has
been super sick. So Ellie Matt's mum who lives with us.
She for the past eight weeks has been holy hell,
Like we honestly thought she was not going to make
it through this sickness in and out of hospital.

Speaker 2 (46:26):
She's lost so much weight.

Speaker 3 (46:28):
She's been really really unwell, and we didn't have a
diagnosis as to why, which was just the worst. Anyway,
she went into hospital again about a week and a
half ago and she got a diagnosis and she was
diagnosed with a sickness called seediff, which is like a
crazy ass hospital bacteria that's like really resistant to different antibiotics.
And she was basically just she was also like you,

(46:49):
brit just shitting herself.

Speaker 2 (46:51):
Cue.

Speaker 3 (46:52):
But it was really really bad and she has now
been on a full course of the correct antibiotics, and
she's just made such a comeback. It's like watching her,
like her personality come back, because she has just been
an absolute shell of herself for literally eight weeks. And
then the other night we sat on the couch and
we watched the Traders Final together and we.

Speaker 2 (47:12):
Just it was so good.

Speaker 3 (47:13):
It's so good if you've been into the celebrity Traders, UK,
I'm gonna go the final.

Speaker 2 (47:18):
Fuck, Who's the best night of my life?

Speaker 1 (47:19):
All right, you're like, that's for another day.

Speaker 3 (47:20):
We really late, No, genuinely, it was so nice to
just be able to have some time with her where
she was really excited about something because she's not been healthy.
She's not been excited about anything for eight weeks, and
it's good to see her like you know, on the men.
Now that's it from us, guys, I'm back here with you.
All that feels good too.

Speaker 1 (47:37):
I'm glad Ellie's better because it was touching.

Speaker 2 (47:39):
What about meha, be glad? I'm back. Yeah, you're back.
You never left.

Speaker 1 (47:43):
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