Trump's Address Recap, The Leftist Reaction & DOGE Dividend Possibility

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Yah, finding that members continue to engage in wilful and
concerted disruption or proper decorum. The Chair now directs the
Sergeant at Arms to restore order removes this gentleman from
the chamber. Members are directed.

Speaker 2 (00:54):
Well, that was that was a white trash moment. Good heavens.
I I don't think that I have ever in my
whole life, I don't think that I have ever seen
anything like what I just saw on the floor last night.

(01:14):
Was it was pretty stunning, this move to disrupt whatever
they were doing, to cause problems. There were times when
I couldn't even hear what Potus was saying, and he
kept having to stop. And there were I mean a

(01:36):
number of Democrats that were were told that were escorted out.
And I just don't know that I've ever seen anybody
go to the point of yelling over the President of
the United States, and not just yelling over him, but

(01:59):
then like trying to stop him from speaking. That's the difference,
because I see some of these stupid people, they're like, oh, well,
Marjorie Taylor Green, y'led a whole bunch. Marjorie Taylor Green
may have objected, but she didn't stop the whole flipping proceeding.

Speaker 3 (02:19):
I mean, Al Green stopped the whole thing.

Speaker 2 (02:23):
He was he was loud, he stood up, he was
shaking his cane, and then there were a number of
other ones who were yelling also, and it was just
such a bad look for Democrats. All they had to
do was show up and be normal. All they had
to do, show up, be normal.

Speaker 4 (02:40):
That's it.

Speaker 2 (02:41):
You know, it's not hard. I mean you we all
do it every day, do we not. You show up
to work and you're normal. You know, you don't try
to raise hell, you're not a jerk. You show up,
You do what you gotta do. You go to the
grocery store, normal, right, You go to your kids games
or whatever, normal right. Not Democrats. No, they got to

(03:04):
be the biggest freaks in the room. They got to
be the ones who constantly caused problems. And then they
sit here and they wonder, well, gee, why did anybody
vote for us? Well, let me tell you why nobody
vote for y'all because of the optic last night.

Speaker 3 (03:19):
The optic.

Speaker 2 (03:20):
Last night you had the President of the United States, who,
by the way, was sweetly honoring the thirteen year old
cancer survivor. I'm going to play some of that, because
that was one of the most heartwarming moments I've ever

(03:41):
seen and it was him. And then there was another
young man who had applied to go to West Point
and Potus told him at the inauguration last night that
he was going to West Point. So I want to
highlight this optic for you. If we have that the
thirteen year old cancer survivor and he was the one

(04:01):
who became an honorary Secret Service agent.

Speaker 3 (04:04):
Watch this.

Speaker 2 (04:05):
This is one of the highlights.

Speaker 4 (04:06):
And tonight, DJ, We're going to do you the biggest
honor of them all. I am asking our new Secret
Service Director, Sean Curran to officially make you an agent
of the United States.

Speaker 3 (04:28):
Best surprise face ever.

Speaker 2 (05:05):
That's so great. I loved that moment. That was such
a great moment. The thirteen. Now not to be a
bummer with all of it, but here's the optic I'm
talking about.

Speaker 3 (05:17):
You have this situation.

Speaker 2 (05:19):
His face was the best face in the world. You
have his story, and then you have the story of
the young man who which we'll play later, who wanted
to go to West Point and he was accepted right
on the Flactually, you know, go ahead and play that.
He was accepted. Right, poet has told him you're in.
You're going to west Point Cadet. You're going to west Point.

Speaker 3 (05:41):
Watch this. This is the other great, great moment that
they had.

Speaker 2 (05:46):
And I'm just shocked at how many people insisted on
just sitting down. Do we have this one? This was
the west Point Cadet. This was the other great moment
for that night. Okay, yeah, let's go ahead.

Speaker 4 (06:01):
And athlete a really good athlete, they say, A brilliant
student with a four point four six. That's good GPA.
And his greatest dream is to attend the US Military
Academy at west Point.

Speaker 2 (06:27):
So great, such a d he said in his head
and his mom it's so great.

Speaker 4 (06:38):
Great stories, right, and Jason, that's a very big deal
getting in. That's a hard one to get into. But
I'm please to inform you that your application has been accepted.

Speaker 2 (06:51):
What a great object. I want to get into the
meat potatoes of his speech here, but this is what
I want to really highlight. So this was so this
was These were two stories. In addition to Potis talked
about lacoln Riley. He talked about Joscelyn Hungary. He talked
about those families who've been victimized by illegal immigration and

(07:16):
the criminality that goes along with it. Democrats set the
camera cut away at one point at one moment, and
it showed Wie Wasserman Schultz and I can't remember her name,
the rep from Michigan, and they were sitting there, one
of Wasserman Schultz in her pink jacket, the other representative

(07:38):
with like a pink accent, sitting there looking sour. And
it was right after the moment. Had to think that
the cameraman did it on purpose. It was right after
the moment that he had told DJ, after DJ had
his surprise face, et cetera. And they had a quick
shot after this and it showed w Wasserman Schultz and

(08:02):
the other I think it was Dingle that were sitting
there looking glum and sour. And then when there was
a wider shot of the room, all of the Democrats
side and this is it's not unusual for Democrats not
to cheer for Republican achievements or parts of the Republican agenda,
but this was different. This was very different.

Speaker 3 (08:26):
This was about.

Speaker 2 (08:26):
Acknowlogy, not Republican achievements, but two young men and they
couldn't even be bothered. They couldn't be bothered to clap
for the Nungries. They couldn't be bothered to clap for
Lncoln Riley. They couldn't be bothered to clap for the
young woman that they had. She was the one who
we talked about her yesterday was seriously injured in a

(08:48):
volleyball game by a man who was playing on the
women's team opposing them. This is the shot that we're
talking about. I mean, what is your problem that you
can't applaud for these things? Aren't there some things that
are sort of shared. Not everything has to be through

(09:09):
the lens of Republican or Democrat. But you wouldn't know
that by watching Democrats last night, because they sat on
their asses and they refused to even so much as
clap when they were talking about these things that these
victims' families went through, or these young women.

Speaker 3 (09:23):
We get it.

Speaker 2 (09:24):
You hate legal immigration and you want to traffic in
as many people across the border as possible, which is
why you do absolutely nothing when you have the opportunity
to curtail the deluge that's coming across the southern border.
I get it, we all get it, But could you
maybe get over yourselves for five seconds and acknowledge that

(09:46):
there are greater things than your politicization in the room,
maybe thirteen year old DJ, or maybe the young cadet,
or maybe the families of these victims who've had to
suffer from the policies that you've created that encourage the criminality.

Speaker 3 (10:07):
They chose to not be human.

Speaker 2 (10:11):
That is the optic last night, and then they wonder
why they lose. People voted for normal, normal, normal people
doing normal stuff, having normal problems, living normal lives. They
chose normal. They didn't choose men playing dress up. They

(10:40):
sure as hell didn't choose a lawless border. They didn't
choose any of that. They chose normal. And Democrats could
have given them normal last night. The most basic thing
they could have done. For everything you want to say
about Republicans, the most basic thing they could have done

(11:04):
was to just be normal.

Speaker 3 (11:10):
Be normal.

Speaker 2 (11:12):
Don't show up with your auctioneer paddles with stupid contrite
says written on them, just or just trite sayings on them.

Speaker 3 (11:18):
It's stupid.

Speaker 2 (11:19):
They showed up with these little auctioneer paddles. One side said, well,
I think they had all different signs. One sign said
musk live lies, and then the other was what was
it musk lies false? There were several. Did they all
get the same ones? I don't know. I don't know

(11:40):
if they did or not. So all they had to
do normal. They didn't have to wear pink. I find
it incredibly ironic that people showed up last night wearing pink.
But heaven forbid, you asked them to tell to define
what a woman is. But if it's to their advantage,

(12:02):
these prostitutes for the cause will wear pink.

Speaker 3 (12:06):
So lame.

Speaker 2 (12:08):
They they wouldn't be normal. It's so not hard. They
couldn't show up. They couldn't applaud for just basic things
that are shared should be shared issues, and they couldn't
do it. And then they just can't understand for the
life of them, guys, why it is that no one

(12:33):
votes for them? Why is it? I can't imagine why?
For watching last night, can you imagine blowing? I mean,
how many more opportunities are they gonna blow?

Speaker 3 (12:44):
How many more?

Speaker 4 (12:47):
Now?

Speaker 2 (12:47):
The speech last night, there were two things. I thought
it was a I thought Trump struck the right tone,
and that was gonna be tricky for him, because you've won,
and you won to telegraph that not only to your
base but to your supporters in Congress. You want to
keep that momentum going, but you don't want to look

(13:10):
like a jerk. At the same time, the left is
always gonna hate him no matter what he says. But
I actually thought he hit the right tone and he
was funny and there was some levity. We're gonna talk
about this because there were there were several things that
he did right, one thing he did not go far
enough on, and one thing he didn't do at all,

(13:31):
and we got to talk about those. So we're gonna
get into all of that here. We've got a really
really busy day. We've got a lot on deck. We're
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sure that we get to all of that. And then
of course we've got a couple of guests. We're gonna
be looking at to some of the We're gonna be
looking at taxes, tariffs in the economy. That was one
of the things that he really really needed to hit

(13:53):
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But oh well, it's called the Guardian. More than half
of the adults, they said in the study. It it's
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(15:28):
But they said more than half of adults and a
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(16:37):
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(17:04):
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want to bring mammoths back. I don't know, but they've
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(17:26):
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Speaker 4 (19:15):
Do you want to keep it going for another five years? Yeah, yeah,
you would say, Pocahonta says, yes.

Speaker 3 (19:30):
The rage clapping.

Speaker 9 (19:33):
Can we en?

Speaker 3 (19:34):
I ask you for people?

Speaker 2 (19:36):
Were more people We're showing all the did you see
her how hard she clapped? And it was it was
one of those weird slow serial killer claps. First off,
welcome back to the show, Dana Lash with you bottom
of this first hour. First off, let's full stop. There
are difference in claps, okay, right, So you have the

(19:57):
you know, polent, little like what is it an opera clap?
When they do that, they're like hmm or a golf
clap whatever, I don't know. There's a little barely clapping
because it might be ghost hmm. And then there's the
more like yeah, that's great, like I really appreciate what
you just said. Then there's the excited like Valley Girl
Amy Seal clap right, and then you have like the

(20:19):
clap that affirms. It's more of a a like the
Shilah buff gift where he's yes, like I am affirming you.
And then you have what she is doing. We call
this kids the serial killer clap. So there's another movement
that goes along with the serial killer clap. Right, So,

(20:40):
not only do you have the I'm trying not to
hit the mic. Not only do you have the but
you got to stare like a psycho at the person
to whom you are addressing the clap. So in her
mind as she is doing her rage clap, I mean
it's purposeful, and she's got she's so offended. She's so
so offended, you can, oh my gosh, it's just almost

(21:02):
the perspiration almost created a cloud of rage over her
in the room. I mean, she's rich, she's like m
her jaws clenched, her lips are pursed together, her fingers
even though she's clapping, her fingers are pressed together. She's tense,
her thumb is stretched out, tense I mean her arms
or I mean it's rigid. She's probably imagining violent acts

(21:24):
with every clap she's rage clapping. I just wish she
would have said foka and not poka hantas. I did
not feel bad about this broad first off, if you
are unfamiliar with the stuff that she's claimed in her life,
hold up, hold up, wait, full stop right.

Speaker 3 (21:40):
Now, wait do do do?

Speaker 9 (21:41):
Do?

Speaker 2 (21:41):
Do?

Speaker 10 (21:41):
Do?

Speaker 2 (21:43):
Am I gonna get excited for even like humming it,
casting it?

Speaker 3 (21:47):
So are you guys?

Speaker 2 (21:48):
I wrote about her extensively back in the day. Do
you guys remember because she said she was a Native American, right,
I don't even remember what all nations she was claiming
membership to. Just to remind you how ridiculous this woman is, guys,
she wrote a she had a book called Pow Wow
Chow Recipe Indian Recipes, right, Indian recipes because she's an Indian, right,

(22:15):
she was telling her she was literally marketing herself at
Harvard as the first woman of color that's on the
bar whatever, why.

Speaker 3 (22:22):
Does can be?

Speaker 2 (22:23):
And remember they ran her DNA. It was actually Cherokee
genealogist that ran it. And they said that the closest
she ever came to Cherokee in terms of genealogy was
maybe being near the blood of those her ancestors murdered
when they were rounding them up for the trail of genocide.
But I digress. So she said that she was Cherokee.

(22:44):
She's Cherokee, you know, you know the famous Cherokee recipe
Kane of cold omelets.

Speaker 3 (22:51):
With crab meat.

Speaker 2 (22:54):
It's a French recipe, but apparently, uh, Cherokee. They were
great French food connoisseurs. Did you know this? Oh my gosh,
they loved Worcestershire sauce and probably could pronounce it better.

Speaker 3 (23:08):
They loved all of that. They loved imported mustard.

Speaker 2 (23:10):
Did you know because that's in her recipe, we're told
that the crab dip.

Speaker 3 (23:16):
Is a fake.

Speaker 2 (23:17):
Elizabeth Warren is a famous Cherokee food and nobody questioned
it because she was a Democrat. And they were like,
maybe no one will notice that we're putting up this
blonde haired, blue eyed, white woman and saying that she's
a Cherokee Democrats. Nobody will know. So I don't feel

(23:40):
in no ways bad. I smiled at that one. All Right,
we've got I want to get into some of this
other audio and that we have. So two things that
Potis did, I thought that he did, and I thought, well,
one thing that he did, I think he needed to
do more of.

Speaker 3 (23:54):
One thing he didn't do. First is this. I loved
when he.

Speaker 2 (24:00):
Was he talked about tariffs, but I think that he
needed to do more when he talked about tariffs. I
think that he needed to go a little bit deeper.
And I say this because I think that some people
need to realize. I mean, we all understand how it works,
we need to understand his strategy for it.

Speaker 3 (24:18):
He talked about it. Audio some by five. This was
part of it.

Speaker 4 (24:23):
Listen, our farmers starting on April second, it may be
a little bit of an adjustment period. We had that
before when I made the deal with China fifty billion
dollars of purchases, and I said, just bear with me,
and they did. They did. Probably have to bear with
me again, and this will be even better. That was great.
The problem with it was that Biden didn't enforce it.

(24:45):
He didn't enforce it. Fifty billion dollars of purchases and
we were doing great, but Biden did not enforce it,
and it hurt our farmers. But our farmers are going
to have a field day right now, So.

Speaker 2 (24:57):
To our farmers have a lot of fun.

Speaker 4 (25:00):
I love you too, I love you too.

Speaker 3 (25:03):
He uh.

Speaker 2 (25:04):
He talked about making how it would He talked a
little bit about how it would benefit American households. Audio
SoundBite six. This is part of the tariff talk.

Speaker 4 (25:16):
Stories like Jeff's remind us that tariffs are not just
about protecting American jobs. They're about protecting the soul of
our country. Tariffs are about making America rich again and
making America great again. And it's happening, and it will
happen rather quickly. There'll be a little disturbance, but we're

(25:38):
okay with that. It won't be much. No, you're not.
And look and look where Biden took us very low,
the lowest we've ever been.

Speaker 2 (25:50):
I actually thought, you know, other for other than this,
and there's one other myths that he had. I thought
his speech was pretty spot on. But people understand tariffs
and understandation when you're talking about tariffs in terms of
equalizing everything.

Speaker 3 (26:05):
It's not that people are dumb.

Speaker 2 (26:06):
And and I think that people need to get over
being afraid of asking so what does this mean? Explain
this because not everybody can study every facet of politics.
I mean, you all have families, derays, and you're working
your butts off, and you know, you're trying to pay
down the deficit that we've got.

Speaker 3 (26:24):
I get it.

Speaker 2 (26:25):
That's the it's on the part of the shoulders of
the politicians to do this. And one of the things
that Trump needs to do is have a thirty second
elevator pitch explaining, you know what, this is what my
strategy is, and I understand what a strategy is. I
don't know if I entirely agree with all of it,
but I totally do get it because we're being kicked
around by all these other countries and then when we say, hey,
if you're going to sit here and tax our goods,

(26:48):
then we're going to reciprocate, which is one of the
things that Trump mentioned yesterday. So spare me the weeping
and gnashing of the teeth of this fake bs about
free trade or fair trade when it's never afforded to
the United States, and I think it's completely within our
interest to advocate for such which is the leverage that
he is using tariffs for. He needs to explain this
in a thirty second elevator pitch to Americans, busy Americans

(27:12):
who are too busy to sit here and start reading
about econ one oh one and going back to their
school days. He needs to explain it in a way
where look, this is what it is, my strategy for it,
and the remaining fifteen seconds make people understand, Okay, it's
going to be tough, but there are going to be
trade offs, and it's going to be less tough because
of that. He needs to say it like that. I

(27:34):
would have done it differently. I would have had tax
cuts first and then have messed with tariffs because people
need to see that movement in their money. They need
to see them keeping more of their own money before
you start talking to people about increasing the cost, even
if it's temporarily of other items. That is something that

(27:56):
I think we all understand. And by the way, for
every it is okay to not entirely agree a million
percent with a politician because you have a soul and
a brain, and I seriously doubt any of you even
agree with your spouses on one hundred percent of everything.
So you have permission. I'm giving it to you right now.

(28:20):
It's okay to not agree with a million percent. You
would be a zombie if you did. It's okay to
have questions. It's okay to be like I don't entirely
get it. I don't entirely understand the the line of
importance of all of this or the order of it.
Excuse me, the order of doing terrifts before tax cuts.

(28:42):
I think that people are much more amenable to tariffs
after they've seen some reduction in their their financial burden
because of tax cuts being made permanent.

Speaker 3 (28:52):
That's what I would have done differently.

Speaker 2 (28:54):
Now, I also understand that we're on the edge of
a knife economically, and maybe there's maybe that's later he
can explain that reason, but it is so important. Here's
why it's so important that he's got to keep everybody
on the same page on this. Those are the people
that made your coalition, the people that got tired of Democrats,
the people that were tired of the endless spending and
the unaccountability. They went over and they voted for Trump.

(29:18):
This was one of the big reasons. The three big reasons, immigration,
the woke stuff, and money. Those are the three big
reasons that people left the left or left the middle
and voted for the right. So it's not a party party,
it's a coalition. You have the party and then there's
other people that are helping the party.

Speaker 3 (29:34):
That's your coalition. In order to keep those people, you're
going to have to deliver.

Speaker 2 (29:41):
They're going to have to deliver, Which brings me to
my second point.

Speaker 3 (29:46):
He made.

Speaker 2 (29:46):
He mentioned this to Democrats, but he didn't say to Republicans.
He said, you're all gonna be one to to pass
those tax cuts. You know, you might not get elected.
He needs to be telling that to Republicans. The biggest
hurdles to his agen weren't on the right side. So
when you're standing up, you have, you know, stage right
and then House right, so it's House left, stage right.

(30:08):
It wasn't those people, the Democrats sitting on the right
side that he needed to address that too. It was
the Republicans that he had sitting on that were on
his left that he needed to make that statement too.
And he I understand that it was a celebratory mood,
but I think there was a little room for a
little bit of sternness and severity and pointing down out

(30:29):
those Republicans and saying, you know what, I didn't give
you leave. I didn't get a mandate in November for
you all to pass a continuing resolution that literally does
nothing more then perpetuates and continues Biden's existing fiscal framework,
including all current spending levels. That's not what I got

(30:52):
a mandate to do. He should have put them on
blasts in front of the American people. And I was
just a pointed that he didn't because he is the
only one with the ability to pressure these lawmakers in
the way that is required to make them bend to

(31:12):
the voter's will on this. That's why he's there, to
make these people bend to voters will, because clearly they're
not listening to us. But maybe if he gets there
and he's real strict with him, then maybe they'll listen
to him. He needed to do that, and he did
not do that because they are his biggest hurdle. They

(31:34):
are the people who are saying, yeah, let's add three
hundred and forty five billion dollars in additional spending. Yeah,
let's not actually cut anything, let's continue the Joe Biden
rate of spending, which is exactly what is in that
cr And it's not even a budget, it's not a bill,
it is a resolution. It is a continuing resolution. So
they're like, yeah, well, let's just go ahead and continue.

(31:54):
We'll go ahead and do this and we'll add not
a big deal. They will cost him his legacy and
his success and his legacy and how history will view
him is going to depend on what they're doing. So
I really wish that he would have taken that moment
and there was enough good stuff where he could have

(32:15):
brought it back and everybody would have been happy, but
the message would have been sent. He needed to be
strict with them.

Speaker 3 (32:22):
The tariffs.

Speaker 2 (32:23):
I thought he could have gone into more, because you
can't just say, well, it's you know, it's going to
be a little rough, but then it won't be. You
give people a little bit more than that. And I
think too, if he's up there and he's telling people, look,
you know what, we're gonna have tax cuts again, I
think the order of things should have been tax cuts
and then you mess with tariffs. Now it is what
it is. He needs to finesse that a little bit.

(32:45):
He needs to say, you know, and we got tax
cuts on the way, don't we Republicans got lee. I
would have just literally have paid cash money to have
cameras on the faces of some of those representatives to
see their reaction. Good heavens what that's million dollar video.
And that was such a missed opportunity. It would have
been so great if you'd have been like, you know,
and you know the tariffs, you know, and it's going

(33:06):
to straighten itself out. Bear with me, Follow me in this,
follow me in this. I know what I'm doing. We're
going to get it straighten out. But in the meantime,
these Republicans, they're going to make my tax cuts, my
twenty seventeen tax cuts permanent to make sure you got
the relief that you need. That's the message that he
needed to push last night, and he didn't do it.

Speaker 3 (33:29):
And that's it was a great speech.

Speaker 2 (33:30):
Don't get me wrong, But I'm telling you guys, it
is all kind of It's all going to come down
to the economy, every damn bit of it. And that
is a message that needs to be resonating throughout the GOP.
We have several other things too to hit, including the
media reaction. They're all freaking out, as you can expect.

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Speaker 2 (36:00):
For the record, and this is disgusting.

Speaker 11 (36:03):
The President made a spectacle out of praising a young
man who serves thus far survived pediatric cancer, as if
the President had something to do with that. This was
in the midst of him praising Doge. Doge cuts, among
other things, have cut off funding for ongoing research into pediatric.

Speaker 2 (36:26):
Oh my gosh, I what is the matter with you?
I got to ask, what is she's talking about last night?
That's Rachel Mattow. She's discussing DJ the thirteen year old
he had brain cancer.

Speaker 3 (36:42):
He beat brain cancer.

Speaker 2 (36:43):
They gave him five months to live, and they made
him an honorary Secret Service agent. And he was calling
on childhood cancer rates, and he was talking about cancer
rates and he made mention of Health and Human Services Secretary.
You know, Kennedy, why is that such a bad thing?

(37:03):
And the only person who is claiming that Trump is
acting like he cured it himself is Rachel Maddow. I mean,
you know, maybe this kid survived that, but is he
going to survive you bitches saying this crazy stuff about him?

Speaker 3 (37:16):
What does the matter with you?

Speaker 2 (37:17):
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Speaker 12 (38:31):
But I think this was a lesson in finding one
thing that you let yourself feel. And I let myself
feel joy about DJ. And I hope he's alive for
another you know, ninety five years, right, And I hope
he lives and the life he wants to live.

Speaker 3 (38:49):
He wants to be a cop.

Speaker 12 (38:50):
He knows what he wants to do, and maybe when
you have childhood cancer that crystallizes for you. And I
hope he has a long life as a law enforcement officer.
But I hope he never has to defend the United
States Capitol against Donald Trump supporters. And if he does,
I hope he isn't one of the six who loses
his life to suicide. And I hope He isn't one
who has to testify against the people who carried out

(39:12):
acts of seditious conspiracy and then live to see Donald
Trump pardon those people.

Speaker 3 (39:16):
I can believe.

Speaker 2 (39:17):
I can't imagine anyone that hates Trump so bad that
you can't even you can't even stand up and acknowledge
a cancer survivor, a thirteen year old cancer survivor, and
just be like, that's great that he got that honor.
That's so nice that he got that. No, that was
Nicole Wallace over. It wasn't scene in or MSNBC, MSBC.

Speaker 3 (39:37):
Uh and I she stands you. He doesn't kill himself.
What is the matter with you?

Speaker 7 (39:46):
The kid with terminal cancer? She hopes he won't kill himself.

Speaker 3 (39:49):
Hey does.

Speaker 2 (39:50):
If the media wants to know why no one likes them,
I got an example for you.

Speaker 9 (39:59):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (40:00):
We played Rochelle Matdow. We played her a little.

Speaker 2 (40:03):
She did the same thing. Why can't you just say
that was a nice moment. Why can't you just see
this is the difference between I'm gonna toot my own horn.
It's the difference between me and the left cane. Because
I can call balls and strikes and I can be
like this is a nice moment. They can't do that,
and I don't do it because I'm trying to be nice.

Speaker 3 (40:23):
I clearly don't care about that.

Speaker 7 (40:25):
The only thing you ever get wrong is how I
feel about old people.

Speaker 3 (40:27):
Well, it's not my fault that you hate them.

Speaker 2 (40:30):
I can't anythink that they're all suspicious and potential murders.
It's not my issue. You're gonna have to talk with
the Lord about that. One had to bring it up,
dn't you had to bring it up? Just sorry?

Speaker 3 (40:42):
You gotta say anything about the thirteen year old the
old people?

Speaker 2 (40:44):
No, I but why can't they just go that was
a nice moment.

Speaker 3 (40:50):
They can't even say that.

Speaker 2 (40:51):
They can't do anything that makes They don't want to
look like they're humanizing Trump, even if that means snobbing
this thirteen year old. So this is what I'm talking about.
They have no They refuse to be normal. They think
that being normal is like admitting that Trump won. That's
the psychology of it. Think about it. How messed up

(41:15):
is that I can't even acknowledge this thirteen year old
survivor because it might give anybody, might give someone the
impression that Trump did something nice.

Speaker 3 (41:25):
I can't acknowledge that.

Speaker 2 (41:28):
You clearly have lost when you can't even do that
much and they have lost. All they had left was
any dignity that they may have had, which I after
last night, I don't think they do. I I don't.
I really don't have any words. I think that they're
gonna have to study the mental breakdown of people. You know,

(41:51):
what did twenty sixteen do to you?

Speaker 3 (41:53):
It broke my brain.

Speaker 2 (41:54):
That's they're gonna have to They're gonna have to study this.
This is wild and there's I mean, we've got a
lot more of it too.

Speaker 3 (42:02):
I wanted to switch it up.

Speaker 2 (42:04):
This is a very interesting story because you guys know,
I like watching what happens with the commis right, and
we've talked with Stephen Yates quite a bit about the
Panama Canal. So you know, way back when the United
States helped build the Panama Canal, Panama gets to govern it.
You know, that's the thing UH and China has has

(42:26):
They took like two of the biggest bookending ports, Crystobal
and Balboa, on either side of the Atlantic and the Pacific.

Speaker 3 (42:36):
And in order to keep from having.

Speaker 2 (42:38):
To go all the way around South America, you know,
you've got obviously, uh this waterway in Panama, and it's
a very valuable excuse me, very valuable waterway. It's choke point.
And China had their big bookending ports through C. K.
Hutchinson Holdings that was a Hong Kong based entity, and
as you know, China took back Hong Kong because Britz

(43:00):
decided for some insane reason to give it up and
they took over Hong Kong and there were riots and
people getting arrested and it was awful. And that's where
that company is located, or at least dom sealed out
of and I mean they're.

Speaker 3 (43:14):
Under CCP control.

Speaker 2 (43:16):
And it was the first thing, the first agenda, the
first trip for Rubio, and I thought that was very
interesting that that was his first trip. I wrote about
this over at Substack and I sent it out. I
think it was out this morning and you can, I
highly encourage you to read it. I sent it out

(43:38):
this morning, and it gets into because there are other ports,
but those are the two biggest ones that are on
either side of the canal, and it was announced yesterday
that Blackrock has purchased it. They've acquired those ports from C. K.

(44:03):
Hutchinson it was a multi part transaction worth about twenty
two point eight billion, the companies announced yesterday, And in
addition to those Panama Canal ports, the deal with C. K.
Hutchinson includes forty three additional ports across twenty three countries.

(44:23):
And I, like I said, I was very curious about
this because it was one of Rubio's very first trips.
If you remember, he went and this was, you know,
very beginning of February. It was that he had gone
to in a January beginning of February, he was he
had already gone to Panama and he wanted to end

(44:46):
the participation of Panama in China's Belt and Road initiative.
So he went down there to talk to Panama's president
Jose and he was saying that Washington would take the
necessary measures if Panama doesn't immediately take steps to end
China's influence and control over the canal.

Speaker 3 (45:09):
I mean, this was like one.

Speaker 2 (45:10):
Of his first trips. That's a that to me signals
something's going down. He immediately he's in, he's sworn in,
and he's immediately dispatched to Panama. Interesting because remember Panama
was flirting around with Belton Road. They were going to
be a part of it. China was flirting around with
the Panamanian government, and there were a lot of there

(45:34):
were a lot of a lot of rumors about what
was happening. They said that, for instance, people were saying
that China was being more and more aggressive in the waterway.
It was, in fact, some described it as more aggressive.
Others said it was quote out of control. They had

(45:57):
granted its power to influence all those Hong Kong companies.
Told you that the US envoy was the one who
when he went down there. He went down there like
mid January, I think, right before Rubio, right as Rubio
was going through the confirmation process, and they had Marchio Corone,
who was the US envoy for Latin America. He went
down there, and he had been saying, look, this is

(46:23):
he was saying that it wasn't Mulino's fault, that China's
presence was quote completely out of hand. He said that
it was under previous Panamanian governments that allowed China's presence
to get out of control.

Speaker 3 (46:38):
Now that's a very interesting description. What does that mean?

Speaker 2 (46:41):
The creeping presence, He said everything throughout the entire canal zone.
He said everything from the ports, to the logistics, to
the telecommunications infrastructure. He said, it's not just about the
national security of Panama or even the United States. It's
the entire Western hemisphere. And their influence has been steadily

(47:03):
grown in Latin America. They've been their satellite images showing
the construction they were building, all kinds of bridges and
everything else in this area. And there were a lot
of concerns like this is really fueling Chinese's China's interests.
So Rubio was dispatched and unlatched Panama from China's Belton Road.

(47:26):
Now China was livid, as you can imagine. So then
we have this situation with acquiring these two ports. Now
it was twenty two point eight billion dollar deal. That
sounds like in terms of Washington d C. Money doesn't

(47:47):
sound like a lot, does it. I know it's crazy
to say that, but I'm just the government cannot come
in outright, so it has to be an economic thing.
Wondering if they did not cut a deal with Blackrock,
because this is what the point of my post was.
So Blackrock was bad, but now it's good again. And

(48:08):
I said, you aren't the only one confused or concern
or concerned that such a move implies what a move
implies regarding existing national security or potential hostilities in the area.
I mean, it's a big optic win for Trump because
now you got an American corporation taking control of the

(48:30):
Panama Canal from China those ports. But I still remember
all the Blackrock stories. You know, Blackrocks as investors should
triple their allocations in Chinese assets despite increasing regulatory risks.

Speaker 3 (48:42):
This came out.

Speaker 2 (48:42):
This was a Wall Street Journal in Bloomberg piece back
in August of twenty one, Reuters Blackrock MSc I draw
scrutiny from US House Committee on China. It said that
US Congressional Committee on China was investigating asset management giant Blackrock.
They were questioning whether or not they were facilitating investments
into blacklisted Chinese companies, et cetera, et cetera. I mean,
you get the general idea. And the Wall Street Journal

(49:04):
had a piece out a couple of days ago where
they were celebrating. In fact, the headline was quote black
Rocks woke era is over. We're going to talk to
Will hild about that later this week, because it's they
were They're being celebrated as having ended all that stuff.

Speaker 3 (49:19):
But have they? And it's interesting that it's just now
being announced.

Speaker 13 (49:24):
You know.

Speaker 2 (49:24):
Literally, this Wall Street Journal piece was from like three
days ago, right as the steal is going down.

Speaker 3 (49:30):
Was it something that was floated out there to.

Speaker 2 (49:32):
Make everybody feel better about Blackrock being the one to
buy these these ports? And I'm saying it, I don't,
I don't have I don't know, I don't know the
people who run black Rock, I don't. I'm just questioning
it everything that's been reported, because you guys remember, like
a couple of years ago, we were all going wild
over black Rock. Carol Roth wrote a whole book, You
Will Own Nothing and Be Happy. What was one of
the big players in her book black Rock? All the

(49:56):
companies that they invest in, even if they walk away
from dee I and Wokery, What about the companies they
invest in and build up? What are their policies even
if black Rock walks away from ESG. What are the
policies of the companies that they are investing in and
building up.

Speaker 3 (50:10):
That's like a question that we all have.

Speaker 2 (50:12):
So I'm wondering, were they the only entity that the
US government could use to run China out of the
Panama Canal with money, because this was a priority for
the administration right out of the gate, Like Rubio, the
ink would even dry, and he's down there and then

(50:33):
this deal comes in.

Speaker 3 (50:34):
You got the Wall Street Journal piece.

Speaker 2 (50:36):
It's just all very coincidental, and to me it suggests
a very increased concern for national security and China's plans
for that waterway. Very interesting. Definitely a story you got
to keep an eye on. So I don't know, I mean,
it's I don't know if there was anybody else. Is

(50:57):
it moderately better? I mean, I think anything's better than
the CCP, but there we had a lot of questions.
So that's definitely something to keep an eye on. We
have more on the way and coming up at the
bottom of the hour, James Fishback will join us. You
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Out of spite. That's what they're saying. That's what they're saying.

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(53:29):
I think measles and chicken pox obviously are two different things,
but a lot of questions about this. I mean, I
don't have a problem with certain vaccines, they just don't
certain ones that I'm.

Speaker 3 (53:38):
Like, eh, maybe you can wait, maybe like the.

Speaker 2 (53:40):
Scheduling some of them, you know, like with the obviously
the Rohona, I'm like hype, brand new injection. No thanks.
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anybody who was on the shuttle bus you're urged to
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all this kid came into contact with. That's insane, good heavens.
So I don't know, I don't know, people, This is
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Speaker 3 (56:24):
We've been going over the.

Speaker 2 (56:25):
Joint address that Potus gave last night, and now I
was pretty pleased with it. I wanted a little bit
more on the tariffs. I wanted a little bit. I
think the American people need to have this explain to
them in a thirty second elevator pitch, which if anybody
can do it, Potus could do it.

Speaker 3 (56:43):
And I really wanted him.

Speaker 2 (56:45):
And the only thing I didn't get was I really
wanted him to go after those Congressional Republicans about implementing
these recommended doche cuts because their recommendations are coming in
and yet I keep seeing, like the cr that was
recently passed to the House, it's literally just continuing the
current fiscal framework from former President Biden, which was you know,

(57:08):
the heinous spending. It's just continuing that, kicking it down
the road for another fiscal year. So where we need
those cuts implemented. And I that was always going to
be the the fight was making sure that these Congressional Republicans.

Speaker 3 (57:23):
They love it.

Speaker 2 (57:24):
They talk about they're like, oh, we love Doge. They
go on Fox all the time, we love Doge. But
then when push comes to shove and they're in there
trying to implement these cuts, they cowered out and they
run away. There was a really good suggestion a couple
of weeks ago in this whole debate about it, like
we know, when do taxpayers get some relief. James Fishback
is the CEO of Zoria UH and he's the he's

(57:46):
the CEO and he's also an advisor not just to
pot Us, but also to Doge, and he came up
with the Doge dividend. And I like it, not just
for the consonants, but you know, I like the I
like the idea that I like the idea of taxpayers
keeping more of their money. I've got some questions about it, though,

(58:06):
because we're all nervous because we've had so much spending
the last four years, and these Republicans in Congress are
making me a little nervous.

Speaker 14 (58:13):
Now.

Speaker 2 (58:13):
James joins us via Skype. James, it's a pleasure to
have you. Thank you so much for joining us. And
I appreciate you wanting to claw back money for the taxpayer.

Speaker 3 (58:21):
I'm all for that. Talk to us about this because.

Speaker 2 (58:24):
From what I did, I read it right like you
had this in a dream, Like you came up with
this idea.

Speaker 3 (58:29):
You like woke up.

Speaker 2 (58:30):
I dream about like you know, flying seahorses and stuff,
and you dream about you know, money and tax cuts.

Speaker 3 (58:36):
Tell me about the origin of this.

Speaker 10 (58:39):
It was, in fact a dream, Dana. I'm happy to
report I dream about a lot of weird stuff, but
economic policy is one of them. Having been a macro
investor for the past decade, and the proposal, to your
point is called the Doge dividend. It's quite simple. It's
take twenty percent of whatever President Trump saves with DOGE
over the next couple of years and send it right

(59:01):
back to hard working taxpayers who sent it to DC
in the first place. Why would we send it back
Because DC misused and abused their harder earned tax dollars.
They sent their money to DC data to support education
and infrastructure. What we ended up supporting was Dei scholarships
in Myanmar and a Iraqi Sesame Street instead. That is

(59:24):
called breach of contract, and when there's breach of contract,
you need to pay restitution. The restitution here goes to
the taxpayer. Over the past five years, the government has
spent about thirty trillion dollars. The taxpayer directly through income tax,
has covered about twenty trillion of that, roughly seventy percent.

(59:44):
So when you cover seventy percent of the bill, you're
entitled for a refund. And that's what this plan represents.
Honored that the President supports it, and I met with
Senators and House members last week in DC to help
get this over the line. It's long overdue. And it
also helped incentivize Americans to your point, to put the
foot to the fire for congressional Republicans and to say, look, guys,

(01:00:07):
enough is enough. The Biden fiscal framework of the past
four years will not work. We've got to hold you accountable,
and we've got to have tax payers end up reporting waste,
fraud and abuse that they see. Why would they do that?
Because the more the Doge saves, the bigger their Doge
dividend check is. And our hope is that these checks
would go out next year.

Speaker 2 (01:00:27):
Where the concern that I that I hear from some
friends like Carol Roth is a very good friend of mine.
You know, I don't want to say retect. She still
kind of is an investment, but she says she, I mean,
everyone loves the concept of the idea. I think what
the concern that some folks have is that it could
maybe perhaps further inflame inflation. And I think people are
nervous because we have, like I said earlier, you know,

(01:00:49):
we have these recommended cuts, but so far Congress isn't
doing anything to actually to implement any of this, which
makes everybody nervous because then they go, Okay, well, where's
the what is the money? Then, where's it coming from?
Is it because it's all borrowed, so where's it coming from?

Speaker 10 (01:01:04):
Yeah, it's a good question.

Speaker 15 (01:01:05):
Now.

Speaker 10 (01:01:05):
I was one of the few macro investors in twenty
twenty one railing against the Biden administration for printing all
that money and for the Fed keeping rates at zero,
So I recognized the risk from inflation back then, and
I got to tell you this time is very different.
Let's see why. The first is look at the macro
backdrop data. When the last time we sent out large
checks like this, what was happening. There was a labor shortage,

(01:01:26):
there were supply chain dislocations, the pandemic, the labor lockdowns,
the shutdowns of schools and small businesses, So you artificially
constrained supply at the very time that you were fueling demand.
Let's not forget though, data stimulus checks were just about
thirteen percent of the six trillion dollars that was printed
by Joe Biden during COVID. The rest of the money

(01:01:48):
went to federal unemployment benefits, went to PPP loans, went
to all sorts of fiscal boondoggles up and down the economy.
And so oftentimes we placed the blame on stimulus checks.
Put again, when they're just thirteen percent of the six
trillion dollars of fiscal stimulus, it's hard to put the
blame just on them. Now look at the macdrop, the
macro backdrop. Today. Energy prices are coming down, we're raining

(01:02:12):
in spending, we're deregulating the economy. It couldn't be more
different today versus what we saw under Biden in twenty
twenty one. And then for folks who were concerned about
sending out checks to a large number of Americans, we
don't just do this during COVID Day, and now we
do this every single year. We send out tax refund
checks to folks who paid a little bit more than
their withholding would have suggested because of deductions. And just

(01:02:34):
last year, for example, we sent out one hundred million
households a check that was on average thirty one hundred dollars.
Most Americans what do they do with that tax refund check?
They use it to pay down debt. And the act
of paying down debt is not inflationary, it's actually deflationary. Look,
most Americans actually took out debt during the Biden years

(01:02:55):
to keep up with inflation. It's not just the national
debt that's gone up, it's America can household debt that's
gone up. And so Dana, when we're able to give
Americans a refund, they can pay down some of the
debt that Joe Biden and Kamala Harris forced them to
take on by shooting inflation up to forty year highs
and so across the board. Whether it's the macro backdrop,

(01:03:17):
the supply picture, or the fact that we regularly do
this and most Americans use these savings, use these refunds
to pay down debt. I'm just not concerned about the
inflationary picture today as I normally what I trust Americans
to do right with these checks. And I'll tell you
most taxpayers. Remember, this check does not go to every
Tom Dick and Harry. It goes to taxpayers, and taxpayers

(01:03:38):
are a responsible bunch. They don't buy crab legs and
go to the Gucci store. They use this to reorganize
their finances and to pay down debt. That's what the
data suggests. And again the macro backdrop is disinflationary today,
whereas whereas under Joe Biden's leadership it was massively inflationary.

Speaker 2 (01:03:56):
Yeah, we're talking. We're talking about the Doge dividend for
those who are who are turning it, tuning into the program.
James Fishback is joining us as CEO of a Zoria
because we had obviously, you know, the joint the joint
address last night. And I always, I always find it,
especially when it comes to I believe the income tax
should be abolished, the I R I should be abolished.

(01:04:16):
I believe in a consumption tax. Uh, you know, limited
government spending. Take everything back to Article one, Section eight.
We would have you know, such a we would we
would be so far out of the red, we'd be
so deep into the black if we actually were. I know,
it's like a fairy tale because you're asking the government
to be responsible, and a lot of people they think,
you know, when you look at a tax refund, I
mean you're giving an interest free loan to the government.

(01:04:37):
That's essentially what it is. And I don't think a
lot of people understand that. I mean, that's that's what
do you what do you what is your thought on that?
Because that's how I've always viewed. I mean, it's your money.
You're letting the government have it. You don't get anything
extra out of it. And I'm and I always questioned,
like am I looking at this wrong?

Speaker 3 (01:04:52):
Like how do you? How do you view that issue?

Speaker 10 (01:04:55):
I view it exactly the way you did. It's a
tax free loan. And by the way, when you give
the government money and they don't hold up their end
of the bargain, which is to say, they don't spend
that money data taking care of our vets, taking care
of our roads and bridges, taking care of schools whether
they're in East Baltimore or East Palestine, then guess what,
We've got a problem. And so when you look at

(01:05:18):
it over the past five years, it turns out the
taxpayer overpaid their taxes because that money was sent to
Bagdad for Sesame Street and to Columbia for a transgender opera.
And so when you overpay for something data, whether it's
at Costco or Walmart, you're allowed to come back and

(01:05:38):
get a refund. You're entitled to restitution. It's no different
for the government. So much of the government's problems data
and you talk about it on your show all the time.
I've been following you for a very long time, is
so much of the government's issues stem from them not
wanting to be held to the same standards as a
household or a private business. If a private business wrung you,

(01:06:00):
whether it's a landscaper or whether it's a catering company,
and they don't deliver, you get a refund. When the
government wrongs you and spends your tax money and abuses
it on all sorts of woke nonsense in foreign countries,
you deserve a refund. And look, President Trump is a
transformative president for many reasons, but one of them is

(01:06:21):
that he doesn't hold government to a different standard than
we would hold our own households or our own local businesses.
That's why he won this historic mandate. The fact that
he supports this, Honestly, it's really humbling and honoring. But
I got to tell you, Dana, he gets the credit
for this. He built DOJE. He's creating the framework for
which these savings are even happening, and so I think

(01:06:43):
it sends more than anything. People want to try to
crunch the numbers. I'm always welcome to do that as
a trader and an investor. But I got to tell
you the immeasurable dynamic here is what symbol it sends
to Toby and Edith in West Virginia, who pay over
their lifetime on average, let's call it, two hundred and
seventy thousand dollars of federal income tax, and for the

(01:07:04):
first time, the same government that for the past four
years has called them racist and xenophobic and targeted them
for the way that they pray and the beliefs that
they hold sends them a check and says, effectively, you overpaid,
We are sorry, and let us restore the social contract
between the taxpayer and his government. That is a perfect

(01:07:28):
way to celebrate two hundred and fifty years of our country.
Our founding fathers would want it no other way. When
the government wrongs you, just as when a private business
wrongs you, you are due for restitution and more than anything.
That's what the DOGE dividend calls.

Speaker 2 (01:07:43):
For, isn't I mean, isn't the overpaying part of it
that's all done on credit as well, isn't it? I mean?

Speaker 3 (01:07:49):
Because we're dealing with borrows money.

Speaker 10 (01:07:52):
It is, that's right. And by the way, the federal
government forced us to borrow money in our name to
fund this number. We are the ultimate whold holders of
the US debt. Chuck Schumer doesn't get a debt call
our grandkids. Our children are on the hook for that.
And so they forced us into debt to send twenty
million dollars to Irock for sesame Street, to send forty

(01:08:14):
billion dollars to USAID for all sorts of Marxist nonsense.
They put that on us, and we are saying enough
is enough, We want a refund. Remember of the thirty
trillion dollars in government spending data over the past five years,
twenty trillion of it, seventy percent was directly funded by

(01:08:35):
the taxpayer, not even borrowed, but directly funded through tax receipts.
And so when you fund that stuff and you overpay,
and you misuse and abuse, you've got to tell the taxpayer,
I'm sorry. And what better way to apologize, What more
genuine apology than one that says, here is restitution, Here
is a check. And look, the five thousand dollars check

(01:08:56):
number is based off of the assumption that we hit
two trillion in savings. That's not preordained or predestined. If
it's only one trillion, then the check goes to two
hundred to twenty five hundred. If it's only five hundred billion,
that's awfully low by our estimates at Azoria, then it's
twelve hundred and fifty. I got to tell you, you and I,
as taxpayers data, we don't necessarily I save us with
humility for you and me, we don't necessarily need twelve

(01:09:18):
hundred and fifty dollars. It'd be nice. I think probably
you and I would donate that to charities of our
choice that support our values locally. But it's really about
the symbolism of the government after all of these years
of defrauding us, saying we are sorry, here is a
small portion of your money back. I got to tell
you that's going to increase trust in the federal government,

(01:09:39):
and that is a precondition for really supercharging the Golden
Age under President Trump's leadership.

Speaker 2 (01:09:44):
Last question for you. Talking with James Fishback, CEO of AZORIA,
I don't know that we've ever had a discussion about
all of the different ways that we can lower our debt,
lower our tax burden, and it's really refreshing because I
don't remember us ever having conversation like this and people
in DC actually taking it seriously for a really long time,

(01:10:04):
like no, like, you know, not to slam other Republicans,
but I don't think doge would have been something that
they would have been interested in entertaining as an idea,
even you know, eight years ago, ten years ago before
Trump with this. This is why I get so frustrated
because these cuts that are being recommended, I don't even
care if it's two billion. I don't care if it's
two hundred billion. At this point, it's like every bit matters.

(01:10:26):
We're on the edge of this knife. You know, economically,
you know this, you talk about this, how how realistic
and how frustrating is it knowing that you know, all
of the all of these taxpayers and the coalition on
the right is all these people that came over to
vote to make November happen. This was one of the
things that motivated them. And there are lawmakers that are

(01:10:46):
dragging their feet. And I know that Musk had said
two trillion is ideal. It might be really tough to
get to that, and I really hope that we do.
But what about pressuring some of these lawmakers to get
going on this because now we have the tariff battle,
which makes more sense when you put it in the
context of, well, we also have tax cuts on the way,
and we also have all of these other Doge cuts,

(01:11:07):
and we're going to be decreasing spending. So it's kind
of a trade off in terms of an economic hardship,
which I wish was a messaged a little bit more
last night. But how do you deal with the problem
of those people in Congress, because ultimately it's all got
to go through them.

Speaker 3 (01:11:23):
Big question.

Speaker 10 (01:11:24):
You're speaking hard truths which are hard for a lot
of members of Congress, including in our party, to accept.
The truth is, Dana, they have been part of the problem.
Article one didn't just give them the power of the purse,
it also gave them the power to cut back on
that spending. Doge should not even have to exist. Congress
should have been applying oversight to usaid for all of

(01:11:45):
this crap that they wasted our hard earned money on.
And so it's kind of cute how they're running around
and Doge this and Doge that. But as you pointed out,
that cr was just the Biden status quo continued, and
that's why we need bold executive action from President Trump
and from Elon to continue doing this work, because I

(01:12:06):
got to tell you the truth, I don't trust a
lot of these members of Congress to actually do this
work because it wasn't until Trump and Elon and Doge
came around that they really had nothing to apply, no
cuts to speak of. Remember a lot of this USAID
stuff was directly authorized by Congress under Article one. It's

(01:12:26):
time for them to look in the mirror and take responsibility.
That might be hard to swallow. That's not a popular
thing for me to say in my meetings in the
Senate of the House as they were last week. I
don't get a lot of friends for saying that, but
it's just the truth, and Americans wherever they are, need
to accept that. If you're a member of Congress, where
were they over the last five years when we were
sending all this crap to a rock or to Columbia

(01:12:46):
or to Menmark. It's time to speak up and Doge
is doing that. But Congress is going to have to
get on the train before it leaves the station.

Speaker 2 (01:12:54):
No, James Fishback would love to have you back. I
would always love to talk about this, especially I feel
like we're going to be fighting it out a little bit.
House members. So a pleasure and appreciate your words. Thank
you so much for joining me.

Speaker 10 (01:13:04):
Thank you, of course, thank you, Dana.

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Speaker 10 (01:17:00):
And to my.

Speaker 4 (01:17:01):
Fellow citizens, America is back.

Speaker 2 (01:17:11):
One of the things that I liked about watching the
State of the Union because normally I, you know, unless
I do because it's my job, but and you know,
if I think that they're gonna I watch for particular issues.
But I noticed, did you watch Vance and Johnson behind him?

(01:17:31):
It was like watching two brothers in the backseat of
a car, wasn't it. Like Johnson is the smarmy one
and Vance was the guy who's like, is there a fight? Yeah,
it's a fight. That's yeah, like that guy. I got
that total vibe from them. Welcome back top of this
third hour. That was how Trump started his address last night.

(01:17:52):
The media is losing their minds. You guys want to
You guys want to hear more. Yeah, you do. So
we've got let's see where do we start. Do we
start with uh, let's see Democrats? Do we start with
booty juice? Do we start? Actually, let's talk with the
DNC chair audio some by twenty eight and all yesterday.

Speaker 3 (01:18:17):
They were all apoplectic all day yesterday.

Speaker 2 (01:18:19):
The DNC chair does not like mister Musk.

Speaker 10 (01:18:26):
What would be your message to Elon Musk and is teenage?
Those dudes who are currently firing for a civil servants, well,
go to health.

Speaker 4 (01:18:33):
I mean, the reality is what you're doing is destroying
our country.

Speaker 2 (01:18:36):
That's what he just told yourself, just told the voters
to go to hell, go to hell, career civil servants.
That phrase makes me want to vomit. I'm I just
react viscerally to hearing that phrase. And look, keep in mind,
and I really shouldn't have to say this. I need

(01:18:56):
people to not be sensitive. I have I'll the email
from people who are like, well this, you know that
I worked in a government job or whatever. You know,
I agree with you, I follow your show. It's still
a little hard to take.

Speaker 3 (01:19:07):
I appreciate that. I get that.

Speaker 2 (01:19:09):
I really feel like a lot of the IYRE isn't
aimed at those folks, you know what I mean. I
feel like the people that deserve the IYRE are the
ones who go, well, I don't have to tell you
what I do in a week. Well, you're not telling them.
You're telling us the tax pay and by god, I
got every mandate. I own you as much as I
pay in tax. I could buy and sell you. So

(01:19:31):
do not give me that. I will physically come to
your house. And if I have to force your fingers
to type out what you did in a week, oh
my gosh. The one thing that will make me absolutely
unhinged is for anybody in any publicly funded position to
tell me or you that we don't have the right
to know what they do. By god, I pay mid

(01:19:53):
six figures in taxes. You don't get to tell me that.
And if you feel like you do, I'm going to
send you an in voice and you can refund me
what I am owed, since I'm not getting the return
on my investment, which is your authority comes from us.
Without us, you ain't got nothing. And I don't feel
at all bad about saying it, because that's the reality.

(01:20:15):
That's how it should be said. Oh it's still bad.
Oh they lost their minds and then you had Do
I want to play Stephen Colbert? I really don't feel
like it. Do I really want to? I mean, he's
so insufferable. He's still on air, he's on at night.

(01:20:38):
What is he on? I don't even know. Isn't that
like what one hundred and ten year old people watch?
They watch Stephen Colbert?

Speaker 9 (01:20:48):
Yeah?

Speaker 3 (01:20:48):
Yeah, yeah, No, the people who uh what's his face?

Speaker 9 (01:20:52):
Uh?

Speaker 15 (01:20:53):
What?

Speaker 9 (01:20:53):
Uh?

Speaker 2 (01:20:54):
Willard who's the guy who's on the Today Show? And
he would tell everybody that was Smucker's jam it's their
birthday and smuckers Willard Scott, Yeah, it's the Willard Scott Club.
Those are the people that still watch no offense that
they watched the Colbert. They watch him. He was talking
about their little the little paddles audio someun by twenty six.

(01:21:14):
Go ahead, those little auctioneer auction paddles, that's what they were.

Speaker 3 (01:21:19):
I thought it was pickleball. Can I just tell you
real quick.

Speaker 2 (01:21:22):
I'm sorry. I have never even seen a pickleball instrument.
I don't even know what pickleball looks like. It's probably
a ball that looks like a pickle. I don't even know,
and I don't know is it ping pong whatever. I
was trying to ask my husband lesson and was like,
what are those little I.

Speaker 3 (01:21:36):
Didn't even know.

Speaker 2 (01:21:36):
I was like one of those little skivity rock paddles
that they got there. What is that?

Speaker 3 (01:21:41):
What are they?

Speaker 2 (01:21:42):
The little paddles that they were holding up? I don't
know anyway, twenty six the.

Speaker 16 (01:21:46):
Man barked out one appalling claim after another. But don't
you worry the Democrats getting ready to fight back with.

Speaker 10 (01:21:52):
Their little paddles.

Speaker 16 (01:21:53):
Okay, that is how you save democracy by quietly dissenting
or bidding on an antique t set. It was hard
to tell what was going on. I'm just kidding. That
was very cool Democrats. In fact, I made my own sign.

Speaker 2 (01:22:17):
I still don't think he's funny because he comes off
as I mean that It wasn't that. What he was
saying wasn't funny. It's just his delivery. He's so full
of spite and you could tell.

Speaker 3 (01:22:27):
That whenever he tries to deliver something.

Speaker 2 (01:22:28):
I thought the paddles were stupid, by the way, when
were they support everybody? Like most of one lady was
fanning herself with it? What at what point were they
supposed like? False? Said one musk lies. But then I
saw several who got what paddle? Do you get two paddles?
Was it bothersome for them that they could only basically

(01:22:50):
have two messages?

Speaker 3 (01:22:52):
Because she only had two sides? You know, I don't
know one.

Speaker 2 (01:22:55):
What was it? Rashida Tully became a meme because she
just brought a whiteboard. Why are you that dumb? Who?

Speaker 3 (01:23:00):
Why would you do that?

Speaker 2 (01:23:02):
Why, dear heavens, would you just bring a whiteboard and
hold up a whiteboard? You're inviting a whole entire Reddit
army to mem you.

Speaker 3 (01:23:13):
Oh and they did. They're glorious. They're absolutely glorious, but
they will. I really do believe that they just don't
know how to react.

Speaker 2 (01:23:26):
They they and I'll play it because every now and
then he has to say it the obvious thing. See
there it is right there, got lee with that? Oh
got our little picknap blanket audio sound bite twenty four.

Speaker 3 (01:23:42):
I do think that there's some truth in this. Listen
it is.

Speaker 15 (01:23:46):
I have to say. You can really sense John King,
You can really sense Republicans with a pep in their
step and Democrats rather demoralized. I mean understandably so, given
the fact that Republicans control the House, the Senate, and
the White House. Not to mention a conservative lean on

(01:24:09):
the US Supreme Court, but beyond that, even when Republicans
are out of power, you sense like an energy quite
often when and when Democrats are controlling things. The Democrats,
and not to be cliche about it, but just say,
you do not know how to.

Speaker 3 (01:24:31):
Be They don't know how to be an opposition party.

Speaker 2 (01:24:32):
I don't feel like hanging on for the five thousand
walking seconds Christopher walking seconds it takes for him to
say this. They do not know how to be an
opposition party. They do not know how to do They
don't know how to do graceful, smart opposition because they've
had a BILLI Club this whole time. They have no idea.
They've got to relearn that, and they just they are
a mess. Everyone's sitting here talking about the fragility of

(01:24:54):
the coalition on the right, which I acknowledge, and I've
been one of the first to talk about it.

Speaker 3 (01:24:57):
I get that.

Speaker 2 (01:24:58):
But no one's talking about whatever goopy mess the left
is right now. What is happening with these people? Nobody
knows they're a mess. They're not. They can't even be
on the same page. But they're little, They're little paddles.
They can't even be on that same page. Audio somebody
twenty one. This was a hot mic moment, and I

(01:25:18):
thought it was hysterical because Johnson noticed it after he
said it, and he just kind of moved the mic away.
We'll try to be real subtle with it. Watch this,
by the way.

Speaker 10 (01:25:28):
I think the speech is going to be great, but
I don't know how to do this five years.

Speaker 1 (01:25:33):
The hardest thing was doing it there in Biden.

Speaker 10 (01:25:35):
Doing the speech with a stupid.

Speaker 3 (01:25:37):
Campaign spe Look at it.

Speaker 2 (01:25:39):
He saw that mic and he's like, what cut that down?
I didn't think what they said was bad. It was right.

Speaker 3 (01:25:44):
But I like what he said.

Speaker 2 (01:25:45):
It was when it was Biden. It was a stupid
campaign speech. I will say too. One of the other
things that when Trump walked in last night. So there
were a couple of things I wrote about this if
you again, if you're attack, if you get my substack,
I wrote about this last night talking about the lack
of decorum from Democrats last night. Uh, there were two

(01:26:10):
instances where I guess they just decided to just stay
to hell with a norm.

Speaker 4 (01:26:15):
Uh.

Speaker 2 (01:26:15):
The actually it's not what it's it's one thing to heckle.
I don't really even like the heckling. But for you
can talk all you went to about Marjorie Taylor Green,
they weren't standing. She never stood up and waved a
kine and like refused to sit down and was shouting
down like entire sentences of the president. You can say
what you want, but that she never did that. I
don't care what you think about her. She didn't do it.

Speaker 3 (01:26:37):
Al Green did it. That wasn't even how it started though.

Speaker 10 (01:26:42):
Uh.

Speaker 2 (01:26:42):
According to CNN, and Manu Raju wrote about this, and
I cited it in the newsletter. H Democrats boycotted along
standing tradition, so Democrats in the House and Senate usually
they joined what is known as the escort Committee to
walk with the president in to the chamber and through
like you know, statue into the they escort the president inside.

(01:27:05):
There wasn't a single Democrat that joined the escort committee.
You have had Republicans that have previously joined the escort
committee for Democrat presidents. Not a single Democrat wanted to
do it for Trump last night, and CNN pointed, quote
knew and assign a protest. House and Senate dem leaders
didn't leave to join the escort committee despite being called

(01:27:28):
to do so, and the escort committee typically escorts the
president in A spokesperson for Hikim Jeffries told me, quote
it speaks for itself. So their insolence didn't start during
the address. It started way before when you couldn't see,

(01:27:50):
when the cameras weren't rolling, and there were others who
were escorted out even after al Green.

Speaker 3 (01:27:56):
That is just shameful.

Speaker 2 (01:28:00):
Their respect for the office is predicated upon whether or
not they control it, just like their respect for the
powers of Scotus is dependent upon whether or not they've
got one of their people in to be able to
make the calls for nominations. But this was such a

(01:28:20):
bad look.

Speaker 3 (01:28:22):
I've never seen it. Have you came. Have you ever
seen the speaker have to call for the Sergeant arms.

Speaker 7 (01:28:29):
No, I haven't seen it, not like that, especially.

Speaker 14 (01:28:33):
I do.

Speaker 2 (01:28:34):
What do you think if I were sergeant at arms,
they'd be like, I've been waiting for this, you know,
because you don't do anything.

Speaker 7 (01:28:38):
Because there's two levels for actually three levels. Technically number
one is like, hey, settle it down and then hopefully
they comply. If they don't, then the speakers like Sergeant
at arms, let's get them settled down. And then the
third levels if they still don't want to settle down,
is kicking them out of the chamber. So they actually
have many chances leading up to that whole getting kicked
out thing, yep, but it was that Al Green wanted

(01:29:01):
to be kicked out.

Speaker 3 (01:29:02):
Yep.

Speaker 2 (01:29:03):
Jennifer Hemingway is the current Sergeant at arms, and so yeah,
they you gotta.

Speaker 3 (01:29:08):
Escort, You got to escore people out.

Speaker 2 (01:29:09):
You got to get people out of there if they're
not if they're not going to behave themselves.

Speaker 3 (01:29:12):
But I I mean, because they can carry a firearm
and all that.

Speaker 2 (01:29:16):
I'd be like, I've been waiting all my life for
this because normally, you know, they're the person who opens
the door. You know, it's mister the President of the
United States. So we got a lot to hit, a
lot still to hit, and then coming up towards like
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Speaker 6 (01:30:53):
And now all of the news you would probably miss.
It's time for Data's Quick five.

Speaker 2 (01:30:58):
An undercover cops up as a power ranger to stop
a thief. I choose you wait, no, that's Pokemon. Sorry
wrong po Let's see No, I don't know they were
There were half a dozen officers, so it looks like
it was in like a carnival. But they they laid
out a bunch of culprit. They laid out the culprit.

(01:31:19):
He was stealing phones and wallets from people at carnival
and they saw Polo. They published footage of the arrest. Yeah,
they were dressed up as power rangers. That's actually a
really good I'm gonna be on I'm not gonna lie
because then you don't know, like you dress somebody up
as a power ranger, you know, is that a space
going No, I don't know anything about power rangers. No,

(01:31:41):
it's a real one that looks like a space gunt.
But then people they're not gonna be like that's a cop.
They're just gonna be a power ranger. He's a reveler.

Speaker 3 (01:31:47):
Okay, Nope, he can have totally arrashed him.

Speaker 2 (01:31:49):
Take you down to the ground. That had to be
really confusing for the culprit. Like, give a bunch of
dudes dressed up as power rangers. They're adult onesies essentially,
you know, they're not flattering, and he's arrested by all
of this. I bet it was confusing at first.

Speaker 3 (01:32:04):
Let's see.

Speaker 2 (01:32:06):
A painting that says thou shalt not steal was stolen
from a church in the UK. I'm not surprised. It's
the Lord's prayer and it talks about not stealing, and
it had one It had several religious paintings, including one
that was the Lord's Prayer. But then they had another
inscription that said they shall not steal. Totally stolen from
Saint Andrew's Church in Little Steeping in Spilsby. You know

(01:32:31):
exactly where that is, don't you? In Lincolnshire? You know
where that is? Exactly kine, don't you? Of course, no
signs of forced entry. Everyone here, let's see this. Let's
see ooh. Eighteen becomes the first in Utah to earn
a collegiate cornhole scholarship. I could totally do this battling illness.

(01:32:56):
He's got an illness. The Utah teen, eighteen year old
Luke Herbert is the first to earn a collegiate cornhole scholarship.
He's a collegiate cornholer and Bonville High grad move to
South Carolina. It plays cornhole, so you can get a
scholarship doing that. What about ski ball? Throwing objects into

(01:33:17):
holes is kind of a skill I have. Whether it's
ski ball, probably grenades, no, because you got to hit
it with a stick. Now, if I can walk on
a golf course and just throw it, I'm sure I'm golden,
and I only have one way of throwing.

Speaker 3 (01:33:34):
It's going to drive a hole through your head.

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Speaker 2 (01:34:37):
Welcome back to the program, Dana last year with you.
We are at the bottom of this third hour. You
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my friend Grover Norquist, president of Americans for Tax reformatr
dot org and his latest.

Speaker 3 (01:34:58):
Book, Leave Us Alone. I love this.

Speaker 2 (01:35:00):
I want that. I want that as my epitaph, leave
me Alone, getting the government's hand off our money, our guns,
and our lives.

Speaker 3 (01:35:05):
And he joins us now via Skype.

Speaker 2 (01:35:07):
I always enjoy seeing your office, Grover, because you have
the office of somebody who I know you actually read
everything in there.

Speaker 9 (01:35:14):
We're working on it.

Speaker 3 (01:35:15):
I love it.

Speaker 2 (01:35:15):
I wanted to get your before we dive into all
this stuff. I kind of wanted to get your thoughts
just real quick on the address last night. What did
you do you think that the President did what he
needed to do to maybe sell people on his strategy
as it relates to tariffs, and the Doge cuts. I
felt like you needed to do a little bit more there.

Speaker 9 (01:35:34):
Well, I think he did a very good job, and
he really challenged the Democrats and said, if you guys
vote against making my tax cuts permanent, do you understand
what you're doing? Okay, you are raising taxes on the
middle income family of four by eighteen hundred dollars. Yeah,
that's what you're doing. You know, it's it's a twenty

(01:35:56):
two percent tax increase for most for average Americans. Is
that you tax increase. Your threating to raise taxes on
almost every American. And for seven years you lived and
said my tax cut was only for rich people. That
was nonsense. Let's look at reality. We doubled the you know,
the per child tax credit, double the standard deduction. All
of these things make life easier for Americans and less expensive.

Speaker 2 (01:36:19):
And we all definitely want to see more of that.
We need savings. We have been as you know, I
mean atia Urug, we've been overburdened for so long. The
issue of tariffs, I was a little, I don't want
to say confused. I had questions about the order in
which they were rolling this out because I know that
it's going to be a fight to go through Congress

(01:36:43):
and have the twenty seventeen tax cuts made permanent, or
get any other kind of any kind of cut at all, whatsoever,
whether it's tax cuts or anything that Doze recommends having
that made permanent. But it seems like that I feel
like that needed to be done before implementing AFS. What
is your opinion on all this.

Speaker 9 (01:37:03):
We need to make sure that Americans know that the
tax reduction they got under the President will continue permanently.
And he made the comment starting beginning of January this year, Okay,
we're not going to wait if this gets held up
for a few months or longer, the tax cut is

(01:37:23):
going to be made permanent. Back to January. People, businessmen
looking to invest, to decide how many people to hire,
build and buy a new truck. You have to know
what the tax rate's going to be, what expense and
going to be, all those things. And he told America
this is coming. And he said to all the Republicans,
I know you're all with me on making this permanent.

(01:37:46):
Those other guys over there, the Democrats, not so much.
They're going to raise try to raise everyone's taxes. But
he really locked in the Republicans as well and said
we're all voting together to make present law permanent. We
don't have to pay for it ever. Again, it is
a huge what a helpful thing to go to the

(01:38:07):
American economy, to business men and women and say you
have certainty for the next fifty years.

Speaker 2 (01:38:13):
Yeah, and that's I mean, gosh, to have that that
certainty for I mean, that would that would be such
a boon.

Speaker 3 (01:38:20):
We haven't had that in years.

Speaker 2 (01:38:22):
We're talking with our friend Grover Norquist and you can
also find him on X. He mentioned cryptocurrency. Your thoughts,
the cap gains tax, cryptocurrency. I felt like he hit
some really good issues that are I really feel like
this term is his economic term, like the first the

(01:38:43):
second half of his original first term was like the
judicial reform. This is all it seems like economic reform.
What did you What was your favorite thing that he
laid out that you thought was the most realistic. That's
something that we can get done right away. We can
feel that relief. What is your take?

Speaker 9 (01:39:01):
Well, making the tax cuts permanent, but adding to that,
he's talked in the past about going to a fifteen
percent corporate rate, lower than the twenty one we have
that would make us more competitive with China. Taking number
of regulations down dramatically. It's several trillions of dollars in

(01:39:22):
regulatory burdens. If you dropped it by a trillion dollars,
that would make us more competitive with China, with Europe,
with the whole world. I actually prefer reducing the regulatory
burdens on Americans than putting tariffs on other people. Gives
us the same advantage the other but other people can't
react to that. They can't punish us for ending regulations

(01:39:45):
which are inflicting pain on the American people, raising the
cost of our energy. Working very much on drill Baby
Dreux and on superabundance of energy production. That'll keep prices down.
That'll make American goods and services more competitive in the world.
Very very powerful message there, and he said to the world,

(01:40:08):
we're growing. Come join us. We're growing.

Speaker 2 (01:40:11):
I noticed you mentioned, you know how that reducing those
regulatory burdens we do so much more than the tariffs.
I just saw this thing literally just moments ago. Kentucky
Distillers Association. They said, hard working Americans are going to suffer.
They said it. They called them a trifecta of inflation.
That's what basher. He's a democrat. I'm kind of a

(01:40:31):
modern democratic democrat on the last. But you know, the
Kentucky distillers, they're kind of they're flinching a little bit
at this, and I know that there's some other industries
that are as well. Is that the right move to do?
What impact realistically? And I know that you can give
a realistic one. I feel like everybody else is an operative.
What actual impact are we going to have from that?

Speaker 9 (01:40:53):
Okay? When Trump puts tariffs on steel and alumin in
the past, Shina's reaction was not tariffs. It was to
stop buying soybeans from the United States and they instead
they bought it from Brazil, and our farmers are still
damaged by that. We actually had to take some of

(01:41:14):
the money we raised in tariff money and give it
in welfare to farm community which was damaged by China
deciding to buy elsewhere. So the first group damaged in
a trade war with China or American farmers. When he
had a trade war with Europe and there were some

(01:41:36):
back and forth on tariffs there, the European reaction was
to go after American brand companies like American Bourbon and
to raise tariffs on that. So that's what damage. And
then of course once people stopped drinking robourbon for a
while and develop a different taste, they don't come back

(01:41:57):
just because the tariffs have moved again. Europeans wisely, ingeniously,
evillly uh picked a lot of our best products and
said we're going to drive you off the shelves. So
that's why I am concerned about reaction to tariffs and

(01:42:18):
where cutting the American taxes gets you more competition uh
much and getting rid of regulations much easier than tariff
wars with without the costs.

Speaker 3 (01:42:31):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:42:31):
Yeah, we're talking with our friend Grover Norquist, and that's
that was kind of my concern. That was my fear
is that. And I know that it can be the
idea of using tariffs. I know it can be a
tool for leverage, But then when it goes beyond that,
when you're but when you're when you're continuously playing chicken
with different world leaders, and it becomes kind of a
more long lasting problem. And I think that's what everybody

(01:42:54):
nobody knows. Nobody knows. I mean, it's just kind of
a bluff at all. This point with how far this
is going to go, isn't it?

Speaker 13 (01:43:00):
Well?

Speaker 9 (01:43:00):
You could go through life threatening people with nuclear weapons
every day, but the one day when they said, okay,
we don't care, Now what do you do?

Speaker 3 (01:43:09):
Yeah? Exactly exactly.

Speaker 2 (01:43:11):
The we talked about the fifteen percent that was the
corporate business text this some of the I wanted to
touch on some of these cuts because I hear so
many different things from so many different economists and so
many different you know, financial advisors that the cuts there,
I think, what is it came? We were saying it
was out of the two trillion, it was like maybe
two percent of what the total five percent of I

(01:43:34):
think the goal was to cut two trillion dollars what's
been recommended so far as five percent? You've been through
this battle for years in DC. How realistically how realistic
is this? Are congressional Republicans? Are they actually going to
like approach this austerity with the swiftness that it needs

(01:43:55):
to be approached with, because we've got midterms coming up,
and these people that are on the fence now are
going to be on the other side of it by
the time they got to start filing and running for
reelection or declaring candidacies.

Speaker 9 (01:44:08):
We need to make it clear that we're reducing spending.
Every year, two hundred thousand federal employees retire. They tend
to be older, and so that's ten percent of the workforce.
You can over the next couple of years dramatically reduce
the number of federal employees, and if you decide to
restructure so you don't ever hire them back again, these

(01:44:31):
are savings of hundreds of billions of dollars out into
the future. So keep an eye not on this year's savings,
but when you don't hire somebody, that is a lifetime
of pay, pensions, benefits that you're not paying out for

(01:44:51):
each one employee. And we can be and should be
dropping one hundred two hundred thousand federal employees. The former
comptroller of the Pentagon do Zakheim, said, you could drop
two hundred thousand civilian employees at the Pentagon from seven
hundred thousand down to five hundred thousand and you wouldn't
notice it. In terms of work getting done. Two hundred

(01:45:11):
thousand guys getting paid more than one hundred thousand a
year each is a great deal of money. And that
is every decade going out into the future. So that's
huge block granting welfare programs, but having them grow only
with inflation is huge savings. When we look to do that.
In Trump's first term, it was going to be a

(01:45:32):
trillion dollar savings over a decade, trillion dollars every decade out.
That's the one where if you remember, John McCain promised
to be a yes vote and voted no. Had he
been a yes vote to trillion dollars every decade, that
would have been gone. So you want to change entitlements
just a little bit, but over time, that really adds

(01:45:53):
up to a great deal of money.

Speaker 2 (01:45:55):
It does add up to a great deal of money.
Great and a great deal of money can be cut.
I know you were saying that selling the federal buildings,
that's forty percent of the square footage of the DC
area swamp buildings. You're talking about moving agencies out of DC,
relocating them in various states.

Speaker 3 (01:46:09):
That seems like that seems like a reasonable idea.

Speaker 2 (01:46:12):
I'm actually shocked at how much brick and mortar space
isn't used in it.

Speaker 3 (01:46:17):
We're still, we're all funding it.

Speaker 9 (01:46:19):
Still, they were often empty, not at full capacity before COVID.
Since COVID they've gone to where they really are empty
buildings in Washington, d C. And having a building full
of people in d C for parking and for lighting,
and for security and for the building itself is a

(01:46:41):
very expensive proposition. Move it twenty miles out of this,
out of DC and the prices come way down. Move
it two hundred miles out and they come down a
great deal more. Plus, you won't have the kind of
group think if these departments are out scattered in other
states and not all in the DC area, that you

(01:47:02):
don't have the group think that people here all have.

Speaker 3 (01:47:05):
Yeah, that's a very good point. That's a very good point.

Speaker 2 (01:47:07):
Grover Norquist the book Leave Us Alone, Getting the government's
hands off our money, our guns, and our lives. You
can find them at atr dot org as well. Always
a pleasure. I always look forward to your ingenious ideas
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Speaker 3 (01:47:18):
Appreciate you, Dana, thanks so much. Good it's good to
see you too.

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Speaker 14 (01:47:35):
We're going to choose to not go on vacation in
Florida or Old Orchard Beach or wherever. We're going to
choose to try to buy Canadian products and forgo Bourbon
and other classic American products, and ye know we're probably
going to keep booing the American anthem.

Speaker 2 (01:47:53):
Oh shut up, you turd.

Speaker 3 (01:47:55):
Why would you do that?

Speaker 2 (01:47:58):
Like I disagree with can his government on stuff, but
you know, the people were still buddies, like you know,
like that Pierre poly Bear. I could watch him eat
apples and just basically give a metaphorical middle finger to
media all day long. I mean, we're all friends still.

Speaker 7 (01:48:14):
But is booing our national anthem going to change the
terrif idea?

Speaker 3 (01:48:18):
No?

Speaker 2 (01:48:19):
No, I mean, if you're trying to make us dislike you,
well I already dislike him. You know that's one way
to do it. Welcome back to the program. I wanted
to play real quick, two things. I'm gonna try to
get all the sent first. Can't give me number sixteen
real fast?

Speaker 3 (01:48:32):
Yeah? The bad he's not he should not be named
this al Green.

Speaker 9 (01:48:36):
That I knew that.

Speaker 10 (01:48:43):
Person consciousness I am.

Speaker 13 (01:48:46):
I knew that the present has does cannot fop this
whole question.

Speaker 2 (01:48:56):
So al Green says that he got triggered when Trump
said that he had a mandate. First off, how are
you named Al Green?

Speaker 3 (01:49:02):
And you don't sing you? How are you named? My
first concert? Though, this hits me a little personally.

Speaker 2 (01:49:08):
My first concert that I ever went to was Al
Green at the fabulous Fox Theater in downtown Saint Louis.
I actually know Al Green's music. I don't ask. It's
a very odd childhood. But I was shocked because I
was like, he's a preacher and people are throwing their
painties at him. Anyway, he's a great performer. You can't
be named Dount Green. Stop using that name. And then, last,

(01:49:29):
but not least, this was the best quote of the night.
Audio somebody thirty four we will soon be joining record.

Speaker 5 (01:49:35):
Get up.

Speaker 3 (01:49:39):
We just knew it was one line.

Speaker 2 (01:49:44):
Alright, there's a party.

Speaker 3 (01:49:45):
Get to the line. Get to the line, well, amount
of time.

Speaker 2 (01:49:47):
Get to the line, I sounded at trupist pick through
the line. Yeah, where he said our message to every
child in America is your perfect exactly the way God
made you.

Speaker 3 (01:50:00):
By thirty four.

Speaker 2 (01:50:01):
That was his best line because he affirmed no one's
affirming kids for who they are. Society wants only for
them to be affirmed for what society wants them to be.
That was one of the most powerful moments of the night.
All Right, today in's stupidity camp.

Speaker 7 (01:50:18):
All right, it is Maxine Waters and want to put
this in sight. If you don't have it's a wee deal,
I can play it from here. But it's Maxine Waters,
she thinks. And by the way, haven't Republicans been called
election deniers from like since the day forever they won?
Listen to what she says here, go ahead.

Speaker 10 (01:50:34):
And play it.

Speaker 13 (01:50:35):
Turned it over to him. And we don't know everything
that Elon must has done with his high technology as
we don't know, or what he's been issused of by
some as it may relate to the election. But we're
not going to give up an investigating anathectics.

Speaker 7 (01:50:52):
Elon somehow hacked our last election.

Speaker 2 (01:50:55):
But you know they these are the same Democrats that
said in two thousand they still are still the election
and oh four Ohio election they got that was stolen,
you know.

Speaker 3 (01:51:04):
Oh but at No.

Speaker 2 (01:51:05):
Eight and twelve is telely scare, tell a scare in
twenty twenty, tell uscare these people are clowns, folks.

Speaker 3 (01:51:12):
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Speaker 2 (01:51:13):
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Speaker 3 (01:51:20):
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Speaker 2 (01:51:20):
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