EP8: New Year, New Mindset: Setting Goals Without the Pressure

New Year, new mindset! In this episode, we’re diving into New Year’s resolutions, mindset shifts, and how to set the tone for an amazing 2025—without the pressure of perfection.

We’re sharing:

- Our personal goals for 2025—the realistic, the ambitious, and the just-for-fun - Mindset shifts that actually work (because resolutions alone won’t cut it!) - Creative & meaningful ways to celebrate the new year - How to set goals that feel exciting instead of overwhelming

Whether you’re a vision board queen, a goal-setting skeptic, or just here for a fun & fresh start, this episode is packed with inspiration, real talk, and a little bit of humor to kick off the year right.

Hit play and let’s start 2025 with intention!

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Episode Transcript

Deborah (00:00):
Music.

Robin (00:08):
Welcome to the Art of classiness podcast, a show where we redefine what it means to be a classy lady and sometimes it's messy. I'm Robin and

Deborah (00:17):
I'm Deborah, two friends turned classy ladies who are here to discuss life's ups and downs, navigating the complexities of adulthood and how the gift of friendship is essential to belonging. Today

Robin (00:28):
we're talking about New Year's resolutions and the power of shifting your mindset. We'll touch on our own goals for 2025 as well as fun ways to ring in the new year.

Deborah (00:37):
So follow along. Give us your feedback, and don't forget to like and subscribe. Hey Debbie, Hi Robin.

Robin (00:45):
I like your thumbs up. Thank you. Can you hear it? Yeah.

Deborah (00:48):
Can you hear the thumbs up? The thumb is up. We are ready to go.

Robin (00:52):
Oh my gosh. We're doing new year's resolutions today. Yes, yes. How are we at the end of the year?

Deborah (00:59):
Here we go. 2025, you know, it's so crazy to me, and obviously we're gonna go in more detail about this later. But isn't it funny how we just sort of assign such importance around a date in the calendar? And literally, it makes no difference, like, what day it is, what month it is, but for there is something about like starting new, a fresh, clean slate that I think energizes people. So I'm really excited to get into that topic. But, yeah, I can't believe that we made it through 2024

Robin (01:33):
barely, barely, if I do say so myself, we made it out alive. We have barely survived 2024 and I'm really hoping there's some good things in store for 2025 we all deserve it, everyone. You all deserve a better

Deborah (01:46):
year. Everybody does. And it's so hard to like surmise 365 days. It's really challenging to give a ranking to such a long period of time. And so obviously for both of us, this was a really challenging year for many reasons. I do try to find myself looking at some of the good moments, especially like talking to my kids about New Year's resolutions, or about the end of the year, and trying to, like recap all the good things that happen. I try to focus on the positive for them, so that they learn how to have a positive mindset. So I'm trying to be aware of the fact that just because a few really bad things happened to me this year, it isn't fair to say the entire year was a waste. Because, you know, at the end of the day, I got to see you guys like three times this year. If you think about it, Wow, you did. I did. I got to travel to Austin, I got to go to Michigan, and we went to bend in the beginning of the year. Like that is a huge gift, that time that we had with each other. So I'm trying to focus on the positive. Yeah,

Robin (02:58):
that's true. There are definitely positives. It's just for me, like, it's been hard to to focus on anything positive, just because of the the struggles with depression and anxiety. Like my my brain doesn't allow me to, like, enjoy the positives. So, you know, we'll talk about this later, but that's that's something that I really want to focus on for my New Year's resolution, yes, and without judgment on myself. Like no matter what kind of progress I make, I don't want to be a bully to myself, you know, yeah,

Deborah (03:31):
you would never tolerate somebody else being so mean to you. You would cut that person out of your life. I

Robin (03:35):
wouldn't let my friends be mean to themselves the way that I am to myself. So stop it. It's crazy how

Deborah (03:41):
we do that to ourselves. Yeah, I feel the same. I'm really trying to focus on compassion for myself and Robin. I think I sent you a link to this other podcast I listened to, which is called working it out with Mike Birbiglia, who is one of my favorite comedians. He is a fantastic storyteller. Like his stand ups are all just like the best stories you've ever heard in your life. And he hosts a podcast where he brings on artists and creatives and a lot of comedians, and they kind of work out material, but there's a lot of good writing exercise prompts in there as well. And he had Elizabeth Gilbert on, who is the author of Eat, Pray, Love. And now I've never read that book, and I've never seen that movie. Me either. I am. I've seen the movie. I've not even seen the movie, but I obviously know what a cultural impact that movie and book is, and also that she has written a lot of other books. She has a beautiful segment on writing love letters to herself. Every single day, she writes a love letter to herself, and I love that. If you haven't checked out this episode, highly recommend it. Maybe we'll tag it in our Instagram page. But wow, what a transformative moment it was hearing that because I. She read an excerpt, and it wasn't just like, hi, you're doing great today. Love you, bye. It was like, You are the most fortunate person to be walking through this life, this existence is for you. She just wrote this beautiful soliloquy for herself, and she has been doing that for years every single day. What a commitment in self, love, and it really, really made me want to participate in that kind of self compassion. So maybe we can start this year by writing love letters to ourselves. I

Robin (05:29):
love that. I love that, and we can hold each other accountable, maybe like, instead of every day, once a

Deborah (05:35):
week, try every day. Why limit yourself already? Of course, try every day. You're already being like, I can't do that. Nope. I don't love myself enough. It's

Robin (05:43):
fair. I just know myself. I just know myself. Are you familiar with Kristin Neff?

Deborah (05:49):
That name sounds familiar, but I can't say that I am.

Robin (05:51):
She wrote a book on compassion that I've listened to. The audio version of. It's very good. I recommend that she talks about hugging yourself, okay, okay, it actually feels really nice. I'm hugging myself, everyone, hugging yourself.

Deborah (06:06):
The best nights of sleep I have are when I go full weighted blanket, head to toe, weighted blanket. And I think it's because it just feels like a gentle hug all night.

Robin (06:18):
I do love sleeping with my weighted blanket. Sometimes I get hot though, you have to take it off. Yeah,

Deborah (06:23):
well, it's freezing cold in Ohio right now, so the weighted blanket is a necessity in keeping warm. I'm going

Robin (06:31):
to Boston tomorrow. It'll be in the 20s. We're going for Seth's work Christmas party. It's gonna be cold. It's gonna be cold. It is

Deborah (06:39):
going to be cold. And Boston, cold hits different because, man, that wind just cuts right through you.

Robin (06:45):
It sure does. And like, especially if you're crossing the bridge to go to seaport, man, that wind cuts through your skin. It goes straight through to the other side. Yeah, oh yeah, it burns Yes, but I have a very warm parka and wool socks, and I'm actually, like, really looking for it, like, when you're only there for a few days, it's fun. It's enjoyable when it's your daily life. No, thank you. Yeah,

Deborah (07:19):
yeah, no, I hear you and that that should be fun, but should also be great to come home to some hopefully slightly warmer weather than that. Yes,

Robin (07:27):
the winter of Austin. Yeah. So what do you do

Deborah (07:31):
with Penny, your puppy during these trips, which is a nice little transition to

Robin (07:37):
updates. Seth's brother, Steve. I call him Esteban, yo will be taking care of her. It's an endearing term. It

Deborah (07:45):
is an endearing term, and I love it. Seth calls him stove.

Robin (07:51):
So he's like different emojis in our phones. Oh my gosh, that's hilarious. But yeah, he'll stay at our house and take care of penny for us.

Deborah (08:00):
Okay, perfect. Well, what else has been going on with Penny? I have some

Robin (08:03):
big news. Okay, we had a breakthrough with the buttons. What

Deborah (08:08):
is she saying? What is she communicating? Well, we

Robin (08:10):
went down to just two. Kept it really simple, because I felt like it was too confusing. So she was avoiding it. So we just put play and potty, and I was sitting in the office, Seth was working, and we just heard this play, and I look over and she's staring at me with her toy,

Deborah (08:31):
with her toy, yeah, oh my gosh, oh

Robin (08:35):
my oh my gosh. And we play, and then five minutes later, potty, and we took her out. She went potty. Oh my

Deborah (08:40):
gosh. I was like, I may need to invest in this, because I never know what my dog wants ever. It takes

Robin (08:49):
a lot of patience. We just stick with it every day like and she's still learning. She doesn't use it every time. But now, if she comes to me with a toy. I say, Do you want to play? And I point at the button. She goes and pushes it like she understands I have to push this button for mom to play with me. Yes, I

Deborah (09:09):
love that. That's huge. You need to catch some of that on video so we can show the people I will.

Robin (09:15):
Yeah, that's a great idea. And then she started frustrating Seth, because she was like, play, play, play. I was like, Okay, now it's time to break out the later button, yeah, so then we say play later, learn a new word, yes, yeah. I'll try to catch it on video that

Deborah (09:33):
is so crazy. It's

Robin (09:35):
so exciting. I'm so excited.

Deborah (09:38):
I love that. I love that meanwhile, we're on the struggle bus over here, we're minor, minor breakthroughs. In terms of car sick pup, I stopped even trying to take him on long car rides for a little bit, just hoping maybe he would age out of it. But, you know, I went back up to my boyfriend's this weekend. Was like, we got to do it, and he had not eaten. Like four hours, took him on a walk beforehand, got him all played out as best I could, hoping he would just settle down, and he just, it's a nerves thing. He just whimpers, like the majority of the time. I have a hatchback, so he's just kind of like pacing around in the back, like going from side to side. I had the windows open, even though it was freezing cold, just trying to get him some air flow. And then all of a sudden, I just smell the most rancid smell in the world. Literally, thought he had diarrhea. Like, that's how bad the smell was 20 minutes from Justin's. So I was like, what, I cannot do this every single time. Like, he obviously hates this. I feel like I'm traumatizing him, but like, I need to be able to take him places, to the vet, you know, little things like that, or, you know, if I ultimately need to go visit my parents, or just things like that. And his sons were really sweet. They bought him a few dog toys, and one of them was a massive bone, which still had, like, meat on it, you know. And I said, you know, why don't we wait until the car ride home and maybe he'll be distracted? Yeah, eating the bone, and that actually did the trick. Now, this was a massive bone, I don't really know. Like, affordability wise, like, how many of these I can keep in a stockpile?

Robin (11:15):
We use bully sticks for a penny. Okay? She loves them. They're just these little collagen sticks, six six inches long. I mean, we just keep a couple in the car, and she loves it. Gotcha,

Deborah (11:25):
yeah? Well, this seemed to do the trick. It distracted him for the majority of the way home. Worked on that thing the whole time, and then really wasn't until, like, five minutes out to he was like, Wait a second, I'm in a car. I don't like this feeling.

Robin (11:36):
That's good. That's positive reinforcement. Yes,

Deborah (11:39):
yep, car ride. You get a big bone. Yeah, exactly. But we're working on it, you know, we're just trying to break him of his street ways, my little hood rat boy, just trying to get him to acclimate.

Robin (11:49):
That's a great nickname. Your little hood rat. Little hood rat boy, you know, he's so sweet. I call Penny my penny pasta. Oh,

Deborah (11:57):
I started calling Chaco chaquito or Chaco Bell, Oh, I

Robin (12:01):
love that. Chaco Bell,

Deborah (12:03):
yes. I was like, Why didn't we name him? Chaco Bell?

Robin (12:06):
That's a great costume idea. I know, I know there's

Deborah (12:10):
so many, so many. Well, great. So what else is going on? Any major updates before we get into our topic? So

Robin (12:17):
something funny happened this past week, and I was so excited to tell you about it. Yeah, in one of our episodes, we talked about whether or not you use the top sheet. Oh, yeah. And last week, Seth was like, I'm getting too hot at night, like I don't want to use the top sheet, and then I get stuck with all the sheets, and it gets all tangled up. So it's frustrating on many levels for me, also, I want to snuggle, and now it's hard to get to you to snuggle, yeah, just a lot of factors. It was funny, he did this for two nights, and immediately I was fed up with it, and so without even telling him, I turned the AC down really cold, like we always turn it down at night, but I turned it down even colder. And he's like, Oh my gosh, it's freezing. I was like, Oh, I guess you better get under that top sheet.

Unknown (13:09):
He's like, there you go. Ah,

Robin (13:12):
I see what you did here. And I'm like, That's right, get under that top sheet.

Deborah (13:17):
You both have to be on the same page. And I broke Justin of that habit too, because he had a top sheet, but he would sleep over it. And I'm like, we don't do that. No more. Okay, yeah, he can have his top sheet free life every day that I'm not there exactly, but when I'm in town, you get under those sheets, buddy. You know you got to be on the same page with it. So good for you for planting your flag in the ground and saying, We, we're a top sheet family,

Robin (13:43):
yeah. I was like, this isn't happening. Yeah, we're a top sheet family, yes,

Deborah (13:48):
yes. The fact that you just said AC and it's winter time is so wild to me. Yeah. I mean, I understand you're in Texas, but you gotta do it.

Robin (13:55):
I wish we could open the windows. But even this time of year, my allergies are so bad.

Deborah (14:01):
Yeah, yeah, you gotta, you gotta use what you got, you know. So I have an a very embarrassing story to share, but this feels relatable and I'm ready to talk about it, okay? And again, it has to do with my boyfriend. So here's the thing about me, I don't fart around other people. Okay, yeah, this isn't embarrassing motivator. I just feel like it's the equivalent of like coughing without covering your face, or sneezing without covering anything like these are smells and bacteria that you are putting out in the world, and if you can avoid doing it directly in front or around other people, then you should, you know, I think if you're a kind of couple who you fart around each other, or you use the bathroom with the door open, more power to you. That will never be something that I feel comfortable doing. It's just not who I am. I think I went my entire marriage without even ever intentionally doing that. You. Know what I mean? Like, I never sit comfortably with someone and just let one rip. It is very, very, very unlike me to do that, okay? And I also feel like it's a courtesy to just remove yourself from an area if you feel one coming on, and just go pollute the air elsewhere. Okay, go mess somebody else's space up. So we're on a couch watching movie, and I had some leftover pecan pie, and I was like, Oh, do you want me to go heat that up? My preference like, yeah, that'd be great. So I go in the kitchen. Okay, we'd gotten pizza earlier that night, so I got some bubble guts going, and I'm like, this is a good time to just sort of like, let some air out of the tire. Do you know what I mean? Just like, release a little bit of pressure. Now, in order to do this quietly, sometimes you gotta open the door. If you know what I'm saying, you just gotta, like, hold open those butt cheeks and just pray for some silent air. And that worked like a charm. Worked great. I'm looking over at him, he's watching the movie. I'm like, Okay, we're in the clear. And

(16:01):
then I smell it, and it's not good, and I'm worried that it's gonna cling on to me. As I make my way back over to the couch, I'm looking at him. He's distracted watching the movie. So I get a towel,and I'm just sort of like, wafting it around, you know, like, just don't pay attention over here. I'm just trying to clear this air out. And then I have a nice little like apple scented. I don't know what to call it, but I always cut up apples, put a bunch of spices on it, and I'll keep it on a simmer on the stove top. During the winter season, I

Robin (16:30):
do that with oranges and cloves and cinnamon, yes, and it smells

Deborah (16:34):
great. So I turn that on, and I'm like, Okay, I think I'm clear. I think I'm good to go. I go and I bring him his pie, and we sit there for a few minutes, and then he looks at me and he goes, Did you just fart in the kitchen? And I was like, What? What are you talking about? No. And he goes, Did you just go in the kitchen? Spread your butt cheeks open, waft it around with a towel and then turn on the potpourri. And then I realized he could see the entire

(17:08):
thing from my sliding glass window.

robin welch (17:15):
He could see the entire

Deborah (17:17):
thing from my sliding glass window. You

Robin (17:21):
know what? Deborah, you have a really bad history with sliding glass doors.

Deborah (17:26):
I do. I really do. I really do. Tell him, Robin, oh,

Robin (17:32):
okay, are you done with the story, though? Are you ready?

Deborah (17:36):
Yes, I am done with that forever. I never want to talk about it again. Okay,

Robin (17:40):
you know, I will say, like, same I've always felt uncomfortable passing gas around other people. Seth is the first person who got me feeling a little more comfortable about it, just because, for him, he's like, you're so relaxed around me that you can let one loose, and then he hugs me. It like brings him joy that I fart. Oh, yeah, good for him. I still don't love to do it, but yeah, every once in a while, just to make him happy, men are such simple creatures. Okay, so sliding glass doors. This was when you lived in Austin, and it was Friendsgiving, right? We went over to Colin's house, right?

Deborah (18:24):
Yes. And I believe the more appropriate name for this night is tequila Thanksgiving.

Robin (18:28):
That's right, we called it tequila Thanksgiving, yeah, just to set the scene, yeah. So Colin had a sliding glass door to his balcony, and we were kind of going in and out. I think you ran into it from the outside first? Yeah, sure did. Yes. Deborah walked straight into that sliding glass door, right into it, and I was I was on the other side, so I got front row view. That was hilarious. The look

Deborah (18:54):
on someone's face before they hit that sliding glass door is always just so full of optimism. They're just always so happy to be there, and this stunned reality that there is a glass pane right in front of you is just so it's a betrayal. It's what it is,

Robin (19:12):
yes, and then, like, I don't know, 10 minutes later, you're on the inside, and I was behind you. That's the part that was even funnier, because I'm like, how did you run into the door from the inside, it was

Deborah (19:23):
a very clean glass. Is the only, my only explanation for it, even though it probably had makeup smudges from the first time I did it, I want to remind everyone it was tequila, Thanksgiving. Okay, images are blurred and mistakes

Robin (19:39):
were made, yes, and then I think you fell over in the bathroom, pulling your pants up, yes,

Deborah (19:43):
yeah, at this point, I think it's fair to say I had a mild concussion from not one but two direct blows to the head. And he had a very small pocket bathroom. Yeah, it was really small, just like, you know, half bath, yeah. And I was, you know, bending over and. And I think when I got up, I like, stutter stepped and just head right into the wall. And I at that point, I think I just became non verbal the rest of the night, and was like, I gotta go home. I need to go home right now. Yeah, I think we left soon after that. So yeah, no more sliding glass doors. They clearly betray me. They betray my trust. They spill your secrets. They spill my secrets. How dare you? How dare you be so reflective. So

Robin (20:27):
I'm curious what happened after that. I

Deborah (20:30):
mean, we had a good laugh, and I reminded him I gave you a courtesy. That is a courtesy, what I just did in that kitchen, okay, yeah, you're welcome. And I want to remind you that I went in that kitchen to heat you up a pecan pie, sir. So How dare you try to embarrass me in this moment by bringing that that is something you see and you just store away in your brain. Do you have any idea what I hear when you think you're being discreet in the bathroom? I don't bring that up to you. Okay? I don't bring the cacophony of noises that I hear from the bathroom 30 minutes after your morning coffee, some things are inside thoughts. So we had a good laugh, and now he feels like he has all this leverage over me, and it is what it is, but I still will not be doing that openly. You know, he hasn't. There's no leverage. We all fart. I know and I hate that he knows that about me. Well, I hate it.

Robin (21:23):
Did you think that he didn't know that about you before? He has

Deborah (21:26):
asked me before, he's like, do you even like poop at my house? And I was like, um, like, every time I'm there, are you joking? I'm like, I'm a human. You know, women don't need 20 minutes to get that done in the bathroom, because we don't have 20 minutes to get that done in the bathroom. Men use that as me time, phone time, scrolling time. And women are like, I got two minutes before this meeting. I gotta be in. I gotta be out. You know? I think

Robin (21:51):
also women in general, like we struggle with constipation, yeah, whereas, like our male counterparts, poop like 10 times a day. It's not fair. It's not

Deborah (21:59):
fair. So that's more information than you needed to know about me, and it is what it is.

Robin (22:03):
I think a common theme on our podcast might be poop.

Deborah (22:06):
Who knew? Who knew? One of these days, we're gonna have to make a compilation real.

Robin (22:10):
Eventually, I'll have a baby, and we'll talk about that poop so much,

Deborah (22:15):
and it just never ends. It never ends. No,

Robin (22:18):
oh, we talk about Penny's poop every day. Did she poop? Was it solid? Was it a normal color?

Deborah (22:25):
You never no one tells you how much you're gonna have to talk and think and worry about poop in your adult life, and then here you are having multiple conversations about it.

Robin (22:33):
It's an indicator of

Deborah (22:34):
so many things. Yeah, it really is. Well, let's switch gears to something classy. Let's class it up, please. I want to hear Robin, what was the classiest thing that you saw this week? I

Robin (22:48):
want to talk about Seth's brother. So Seth has two brothers. They're both awesome. They've been really great brothers to me, really accepting me and to the family. And one of them lives in San Antonio. One of them lives here in Austin, and the one that lives here in Austin, Steve or Esteban yo, is they have the kind of close relationship that I really look up to. They are always so supportive of each other, like so many times I've been witness to one of them calling Seth, and he'll spend as much time as he needs to on the phone with them, like talking them through a situation anyway, like I mentioned earlier that Steve is going to be taking care of penny for us, and it's a small thing, but it's so huge. Like, he's done this for us a couple of times, and like Seth asks him, Hey, we're going to be out of town these days. Can you take care of Penny? And his immediate answer is yes. He's like, You guys have done so much for me. Of course, I'll take care of your dog. And I just think that's really classy. I think he's got some classy bros who are always there for him, for us. It's just so nice to feel supported in that way. Because my sister lives in New Orleans, right? So I don't get to see her all the time, otherwise, like, of course, she would be just as helpful. So it's just nice having family so close, yeah,

Deborah (24:18):
and that's really great that they have a close emotional relationship too, because I think that oftentimes men struggle on how to connect emotionally with others if they don't have good influences growing up on how to do that. So it sounds like they were raised right in the sense where they can be open and vulnerable with each other and really hold emotional space for one another. Because, I mean, we hear the trope all the time, just like men not really talking to each other, they can spend an entire day at the golf course and you're like, oh, How's his wife, huh? I don't know. We didn't talk about it. Like, what did you talk about for. For seven hours while you were away, and they just sometimes, I think we give, we don't give them enough credit for those moments that they do connect emotionally. So that's so great that they have that relationship. Classy fellas. Well, speaking of classy fellows, mine is a classy fella story as well, but it kind of ties back to what we were speaking about in terms of being nice to yourself, and maybe will be a nice transition to talking about New Year's resolutions. So by the time this podcast airs, this story is going to be relatively old news, but I'm a big Michigan football fan. I was born and raised in Michigan. My oldest sister went to Michigan, and I just don't know how to quit that team, and I've hung on through some of the terrible seasons that they've had, and it made the moments where, like last year, they won the national championship, all that sweeter for me. This season has been a rebuilding year for Michigan, and my life has been a rebuilding year as well. So started off the year strong, and things just got worse. They didn't have a great season. They just played their rival Ohio State, and nobody thought they were gonna win. And this story is not a story about how they did win, because they did, and it was awesome. They were the underdogs through and through, but the game was at Ohio

(26:15):
State, and there is a clip going around of Michigan's football team in the tunnel before they go out in the field, and they're playing music, and they are so hyped up. They are so hyped up, and whenthey run out into the field, like the camera really captures how intimidating running out into a stadium is, like, you just see this sea of red, and not just a sea of red, but fans booing the ever loving crap out of them, just boos and jeers. And you see that obviously every rival game, Michigan does that to Ohio State like it's any time you run out into the opponent's field, like you're going to be created with jeers. But this rivalry is very hated, right? So it's like even more. And the idea of walking into an environment where everybody is booing you and everybody is against you is so challenging to wrap your brain around, like 100,000 people booing you, and you would have never known it with the way they ran out they were like getting energy from the booze, and you could tell that this was probably something that they had even practiced. I've seen coaches before. They will play crowd noise in practice, or they will play songs that their opponents play. So that way, when they hear that song at their opponent's stadium, like it will actually trigger more positive reinforcement to like, do well. But when I saw this clip, and again, you could replace the team names with anybody, but when I saw this clip, it like changed my brain chemistry in the way that I was like, I don't want to care if people don't like me anymore. Like, I want to let go of that mentality of like, well, what if people don't like me? What if they hate me? Because that could actually be reprogrammed in my brain as motivation to like succeed. If that makes sense, absolutely, it makes sense. And I can't explain it, but see, I've watched that clip so many times where I'm just like, and then knowing the outcome, you know that they did succeed, and they were the underdogs and that they still

(28:31):
won. It's just like, you know, sometimes you have to use any motivation you can, and you can't take people's disdain of you as the source of truth, right? That's just their opinion. Your Source ofTruth is how you feel about yourself and what you're prepared to do and how you're prepared to show up. So, Michigan football, classy moment of the week.

Robin (28:51):
I mean, it's your own reality, what you create inside your mind. Yeah? Why would you create a reality where all those thoughts are putting you down? Yeah? Guilty, I know.

Deborah (29:01):
And I do it all the time. I do it all the time, and we're in a vulnerable, now, public facing position, terrifying, where you know we're receiving critical feedback. And you know getting feedback is one thing, but getting harsh criticism is another. And when you know sometimes that they're just people who don't want you to succeed, it's really easy to take that personally, and I'm really trying to change my mindset. That's right?

Robin (29:23):
And what's that saying? Like, people who are putting you down, it's usually because that's the thing that they're insecure about. Mm, hmm, yes, you know, like we're putting ourselves out there. So it's easy for people to criticize us who aren't putting themselves out there. Yeah, absolutely. And that's been the scariest thing for me, is like, I'm opening myself up to that kind of criticism, and that's scary. But in general, we're getting positive reactions,

Deborah (29:53):
yeah, oh, we're getting the best reactions our friends. I've been so wonderful during this time. I. Mean, huge shout out to our friends for just always sending us support, sending a screenshot of their conversations with their friends who like it, like we're focusing on the positive over here, you know, yeah,

Robin (30:10):
well, and we have control of that, you know, like we know that we're making a difference for some people, and those are the people that we're making this content for, and ourselves, yes,

Deborah (30:19):
most importantly ourselves. And I like the Rick and Morty quote where he says, your boos mean nothing I see what makes you cheer. I freaking love that show, Rick and Morty. Man. So good, so good.

Robin (30:30):
I discovered that show like during COVID. It was perfect timing.

Deborah (30:34):
Yeah, yes, binge worthy, that's for sure. Okay, so

Robin (30:38):
our topic today is New Year's resolutions. Yes, I haven't done New Year's resolutions the past few years, but what I did do last year with Seth was we did a 2024 Summit, and I made a doc and a spreadsheet, and we talked about things that went well and things that didn't go well in 2023 and things that we wanted to focus on individually and as a couple in 2024

Deborah (31:09):
I love that so much. So you have done it, or you're doing it right now.

Robin (31:15):
We're gonna do it again in the new year. Okay? So we'll wait till the new year and we'll have our 2025 summit, I will say I didn't accomplish a lot of the things on my 2024 summit, but there were a lot of outside factors, yeah, that that affected my mental health severely. But now that I know we're going to do this like a month out, like I'm really thinking about what did and didn't go well this year, and how I want to apply that in 2025 and I'm feeling really excited about it in a way that I didn't this last year. That's

Deborah (31:46):
so great. And I like that retrospective approach, because we can only learn from our past. We haven't experienced the future to know it's gonna go right. We don't know what outside factors are going to creep into our lives. And same I had goals this year that I was like, okay, working towards making positive momentum with one of them was to add $20,000 to my savings, and the other was to lose like, 20 pounds, which is so unrealistic. Like, that was an aggressive goal. Like, I don't actually need to lose 20 pounds, but I was like, you know, we'll just stick with the 20s. And I actually am proud of how I handled my health journey. The majority of the year, my boyfriend and I did the 75 hard and we really stuck to it, you know, and we made some really good progress with just like our physique in general. And I actually stopped caring about what the scale said, because it was more so how I felt, but it's kind of hard to save money when you lose your job, so that was a huge blow to my finances that I did not expect, and then just everything else going on, you know, with the economy and things like that. So I did feel this year like, what did I actually accomplish? Which is crazy, because I did accomplish a lot, so much, like before I got laid off, I moved into a totally different role. I'm doing a completely different career right now. You and I have launched this podcast. I got a dog, like, I got to travel this year. Like I got to travel a lot this year. I went to the Bahamas this year. Like, you know, I went to Bend Oregon this year, I went to Michigan this year, I went to Texas this year. Like that is so beyond fortunate. And it's really, like I said in the beginning, sometimes you weigh the negative heavier than you weigh the positive. And so I think that would be a really good exercise for really anybody to do, like sit down. Maybe it's with your partner, maybe it's with your friends or your family, and map it out, figure out the patterns and see

(33:49):
what you can tweak for the next year.

Robin (33:51):
Yeah, for me, the biggest thing it's not like specific goals, but a mindset shift, because when you shift your mindset, everything else follows. Yeah, right. That's the hardest part. Is shifting your mindset so that you feel motivated to do those things that you know are good for you, going to the gym, eating healthier, like whatever it is. So that's that's going to be one of my main focuses, is shifting that mindset, because with depression and anxiety, it is very difficult to positively coach yourself through difficult feelings and emotions. And I love chatgpt. I was on chatgpt last week, and I wanted to create a list of affirmations so it kind of falls in line with what you were talking about earlier. The woman who writes letters to herself every day, like I want to create affirmations that I say to myself, that I say out loud every single day till it becomes a part of me.

Deborah (34:54):
Your mindset is everything. Your mindset is the framework in which everything falls. Asunder. But I do think you bring up a good point in the sense where depression and anxiety changes your brain chemistry, so much so that it tries to convince you that you're not just depressed. It's because you're a piece of shit. You know what? I mean? Like that, I think is the most insidious part about handling depression is that you forget that the same muscle you're relying on to get you through is self sabotaging you, and it becomes hard to trust what is maybe a symptom of depression versus who you are as a person. And I completely feel that. So it's not as easy as just like giving yourself a hug or writing, you know, positive affirmation on the mirror every day, because you are also battling a disease in your brain that is actively trying to convince you to not believe the good things about yourself. So that part makes it tricky, but your only option is to fight for it. You know, yeah,

Robin (36:06):
it. You have to fight through that voice in your head, that saying, what's the point? Yeah, what's the point? Well, the point is to find joy in every day that you're alive? Yes, yeah, whether or not life is meaningless, like you get to decide that don't let your existential crisis prevent you from living your life to the fullest, which is exactly what I've struggled with. It's so much easier to say than to do, but being aware of it is half the battle. And you know, I have really wonderful friends and a partner who I can talk to about these things when I feel like I'm able, sometimes I shut down completely. But Seth usually doesn't let me do that. You need to talk to me. I can't read your mind. And I'm like, I can't read my mind either.

Deborah (37:10):
Yeah, let's get in a third party. Well, good. I'm glad that you are tackling that and are using all your resources to get through that because, yeah, mindset is everything. And if you can be disciplined with how you speak to yourself, then I think that you will transition into a life that allows you to receive more joy, yeah, well, and

Robin (37:37):
with any new year's resolutions like the reason why most people fail at accomplishing the goals that they set is because they're not creating realistic goals, and they're not creating actionable steps to achieve those goals. Yes, so having the goal to lose 20 pounds like, that's a mountain to climb. Like, what are the things you can do on a day to day basis that contribute towards that? Those are the things that I'm trying to focus on. Yeah,

Deborah (38:08):
I'm trying to do the same, and I really need to do this exercise of reviewing what went well this year and really planning out next year, because this will be the first time in a long time for me that my entire year is sort of up in the air. Like, when you have a job, a stable job, at the same company that you've worked at for a long time, there are certain things that you don't necessarily have to worry about, like, how much money am I gonna make? Right? I knew every year how much money I was going to make. That's the great thing about being a salaried employee, and now I am not. So goal setting for me is going to have to try to not only include how am I going to make sure I have enough money to sustain myself, but also putting in practices like manifestation that will allow me to be more positive about, like, receiving those outcomes. So I don't really know if I will create your traditional resolutions, like maybe I have in the past, the only resolution I have ever really well, I would say that there's two resolutions I've done. One was in 2022 I said, this is going to be the year that I stopped drinking. And it was, oh, and it took me the first four months of the year some trial and error of like, you know, trying to moderate. Yeah, if you try to moderate and you find it hard, not everyone is meant to be a moderate drinker, right? I had to find that out the hard way. Like, no, I can't just have two. It's actually really torturous for me to only have two. I don't enjoy it. I'm overthinking it the entire time. It's much more peaceful for me to not drink at all than it is to just like, have one or two. God bless you. If you can be that I could not do it. It was miserable for me. So that is a. Resolution I kept. And another one, which maybe kind of goes into what you're saying about coming up with an action plan for goals, is, I think it was 2019 that I had a different goal every month of something I was going to not do. I called it my one

(40:18):
last thing challenge. Oh, I remember that. And one of those months was drinking, like I stopped drinking. Of course, I picked February because it was the shortest month, and I didn't even make itthrough the whole month. But I did things like no sugar. I did one month where I didn't wear makeup. I did one month where I didn't listen to any music, like, just different challenges to try to, you know, understand myself a little bit better, or maybe, you know, deprive myself of smaller things to focus on new ones. And that was really successful. I did it all 12 months, and I would like to come up. I don't know if I'll necessarily do a challenge like that again, but breaking it up by the months, by the end of that year, I felt so accomplished. So I had like, 12 mini goals that I did, versus like one big one that you sort of lose track of, you get discouraged, and then you throw it away altogether, right?

Robin (41:08):
I saw something recently about, like, rather than setting rigid goals to set intentions, what's an example of that? So, a rigid goal, I'm going to lose 50 pounds this year. An intention would be, I'm going to start going to the gym more frequently, and

Deborah (41:29):
then the results will come because you've set an intention that will give you results.

Robin (41:33):
You're focused more on just taking care of yourself than looking at that number on the scale, or looking at the things you don't like about yourself in the mirror, like, Well, I went to the gym four times this week. That's an amazing accomplishment. That is an

Deborah (41:51):
amazing accomplishment. I like that. I like that again. It goes back to mentality, mind shift, and that's how you'll get results. You can

Robin (41:59):
shift anything to a positive light, and it's not wearing rose colored glasses. It's just choosing to feel better about yourself, about your life. You're choosing to have positive experiences. You're choosing to feel joy. You're choosing to feel happy. Because the alternative, whether you're choosing to feel sad or not because of the way you're thinking, like what good is coming from that, right? Nothing. And I get it. I've already said this, but like saying it is way easier than follow through, and I am a walking example of it. But I know, I know I can be enjoying my life exponentially more if I'm able to do those small, actionable steps to have better mental health, to have a better relationship with my body. And so that's just my focus. That's my 2025 focus. Like, yeah, I have to change the way. I think it's not doing me any favors. In fact, we started this podcast when both of us were at the lowest low, yeah.

Deborah (43:18):
I don't think people realize that, yeah. Yeah.

Robin (43:21):
Like, I hit a breaking point. I hit rock bottom, and I'm like, I have to climb out of this. I have to find things that help me get out of this hole, because no one else can help me do it. It's very lonely in that hole, yeah. Like, I can ask for help, but I need to know what I'm asking for. I came to you and I'm like, Hey, I think we would do really well at this thing. So what if it's not successful? So what if we don't follow through with it? Let's just see what happens. Yeah, and that is a very brave and bold thing. This is one of the bravest things I've ever done, yeah, you know? So if I can just keep doing things like this in 2025 that's only up, yeah, only up from here,

Deborah (44:07):
absolutely. Well, that is a great way to put it. And I think a good goal for most people to have is focus on your mindset, focus on intentionality, and that's how you will get the results that you want. I think that's beautiful.

Robin (44:26):
Thanks. Good job. We'll see how it goes. Now

Deborah (44:29):
we just have to do it. No big deal. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I mean, mine are very similar. I definitely want to change my mindset to a more positive one, and I want to show myself more compassion, so that way I can show compassion to other people. And I am a very empathetic person, but I'm also very strong minded when it comes to my opinion of things, whether it's like social issues, political issues, or even my. Interpretation of like, the events that have happened, right? Like, how can you not see it this way? Is something I'm really guilty of adapting in terms of my mindset. So I've always thought of myself as an open minded person, but now I've really come to think maybe I'm not open minded in the way that I think I am. So I do want to have a more open and compassionate mindset, not just for myself, but for other people, and to allow myself to see different perspectives in a less, you know, conflict ridden way. So that's definitely a mindset shift that I want to make, and I want to find new ways and more frequent ways to connect with our friends, both here and not Yes, and you and I talked about this Robin, I think I sent you a late night Voice Memo where I had an epiphany, yes, I'll probably talk to many of my friends before they even hear this podcast. But I just had an idea, and I would love for other people out in the world to maybe participate in something similar. So our friend Lauren wants to do a triathlon, and she's been talking to me about it, and I've done them before. Lauren is the only person I ever ran a marathon with. We trained together. Like, 15 years ago. It was, like, so long ago. It was that long ago. Yeah. Can you believe that? Was it that long ago? Yeah, it was, it was, it'll be 15 years. It was 2010, 2010 Okay, yeah. Anyway, did a marathon. So she sent me a text. She's like, today's the last day of early bird pricing. If you want to do this triathlon with me, like, come on. So I signed up for this triathlon, and which is

(46:39):
great, because I know that I'll see her this summer, because I'll go up to Michigan and see her for this event, and I'm looking forward to that, obviously. And she's like, we can train togethervirtually, like we can follow the same training schedule, and that just like had a light bulb go off my head, of like, other types of challenges or engagements that I can make with all of our friends, you know, including some that don't live in Austin, like my best friend from childhood lives in Charlotte, and we're really guilty of kind of relying on times that we're both in Michigan and our hometown to see each other, because she goes home once, maybe twice a year with her kids, and it's just a quick drive up the road for me. So I have not done the best job in being like, I am going to go to Charlotte to see you, or I don't necessarily expect her to come to Ohio, because her life is much more chaotic than mine with in terms of her schedule, her kids are very active in sports. She's a teacher, right? And she's a teacher, so like, school years, I was just like her and Ashley are two people that I'm like, I don't really expect much from you, because I know how hard it is to be a teacher, and the summer isn't much easier because their kids are so involved in soccer and sports like that. So I want to find something for us to do, whether it's virtual or some kind of trip or just another place that's not our hometown, to actually, like, meet and spend time together. You know, you and I talked about maybe doing what I will call a slow readers book club. Whenever anyone talks about book clubs with me, I get really nervous because I am a slow reader, and the pressure of it makes me feel stupid, because I know friends that fly through books, and I've just, like, never been that kind of person. Do you like audio books? I do. But what's funny is I listen to podcasts all the time. I get super distracted when I listen to an audio book. Isn't that funny? I

Robin (48:24):
mean, I get distracted too, and why does that feel like cheating? It's not cheating, I know, but I think you're just being mean to yourself. I'm just being mean

Deborah (48:31):
to myself, because I just feel like, oh, people are actually reading the pages and I'm just listening at 1.5

Robin (48:36):
speed audiobooks help me with my multitasking. And maybe this is like an ADHD trait. I think you mentioned that ADHD, but it makes cleaning more fun. It makes doing laundry more fun. It like when I do my bedazzling, I'll listen to like I listened to an entire series that was seven books, wow, and I would bedazzle for like 10 hours a day. Amazing. There's nothing cheating about listening to audiobooks. Like, I know, I

Deborah (49:04):
know, I know. Get rid of that. Throw that mentality out. Yeah,

Robin (49:08):
you can listen to the audiobook and read it at the same time. Yeah, that's true. Be like, I didn't really listen to chapter 10. I'm gonna go back and read that before I go to bed. Like, who cares? Who cares? Yeah, you're not a fucking graduate in literature. I know you're not writing a thesis on

Deborah (49:28):
it's the homework nature of it. I think that I need that pressure, but it also makes me feel like a student, and I was not a good student for the majority of my time as a student. So yeah, see anyway, all this to say, we thought about maybe throwing a little book club out there, but I wouldn't mind doing even, like, virtual challenges with other people. Like, you know, maybe sharing recipes.

Robin (49:48):
Or Kathleen is probably the best. Like, she is a recipe share. I love it. She's always coming over to Melissa's house with something new that she baked. Yeah. We. Talk about cookbooks. I

Deborah (50:01):
love that. What was the waffle thing that we talked that we had shared? I

Robin (50:05):
think he called it the Wednesday waffle, yes, and it's just this, this guy I saw on Instagram who, with his group of friends, they send every Wednesday, they send each other like a two minute video or voice memo of what's going on in their lives. And I think that is such a great way to stay connected to your friends that you don't talk to all the time because everyone's so busy they have so many different things going on. Like, when you're just in a group chat, and you just send that two minute recording, and people can listen to it when they want. Like, everyone's gonna feel more connected. Yeah, and I love getting to hear people's voices because in text, like it's not the same, especially like when we all live so far away from each other, like you said, Ashley, she's so busy during the school year, we live in the same town, and the last time I saw her was the last time you saw her. Oh my gosh, yeah, you know, I

Deborah (51:00):
know, and it's hard to get on the phone with each individual and kind of catch each other up. So I love that idea. I

Robin (51:07):
think that's a fantastic resolution. It is a

Deborah (51:09):
fantastic resolution, you know, stay connected with your friends, whether it's a Wednesday waffle or a group chat or email what, you know, whatever it is, keep people connected.

Robin (51:20):
And I have something to add. Earlier you were talking about how, like, you used to think you were open minded, but maybe you actually are more rigid. Be curious, a curious mindset, even if you know you disagree, like, if your gut reaction is to shut them down, like, catch yourself, yeah, and just be curious. Well,

Deborah (51:44):
great. So I would love to hear other people's New Year's resolutions, or whether you call them resolutions or not. Maybe you call them goals, maybe you call them mindset shifts, but send us an email let us know art of [e-mail] we would love to hear more about what your mindset is going to be in 2025

Robin (52:04):
which is crazy, and you know what? Let us know what you accomplished in 2024 even if it wasn't on your New Year's resolutions. Like I think that's really important. Even though you maybe didn't accomplish what you set out to do, you still accomplish something. Right? Focus on that. Yes, celebrate your success. Yes. Because, listen, nobody's perfect life is really hard, and we all deserve to be kind to ourselves,

Deborah (52:32):
Be gracious with yourself and others, and celebrate the small wins, small victories,

Robin (52:37):
small victories. That's actually one of my favorite bars in Austin, minus the s. I was just

Deborah (52:43):
thinking that when you said that before I moved you and I went there, and a small

Robin (52:49):
victory that's great. Love that place. Yes, it's just so cozy,

Deborah (52:53):
so cozy. Speaking of going out, another big thing that New Year's brings is the opportunity to celebrate, and we as elder Millennials now have gone through very different iterations of New Year's Eve, whether it was going out to bars, working at bars, or deciding to stay home. I will tell you people who have worked at bars and then go out on New Year's Eve, like, after they don't work there anymore. You are a special kind of committed. Because once I bartended at New Year's Eve, I never wanted to go to a bar on New Year's Eve after that. Like, once I've been on that other side, I was like, this is a stay at home night for me.

Robin (53:36):
I am never gonna go to a place where you have to pay just to get in the door. Yeah, that's always been dumb to me. But there was one year that we went to the Driscoll, I don't I think you had already moved or you were out of town. It was $25 that was reasonable, okay, they gave you some new year gear, okay? And that bar is just quintessential old Austin, yeah, and beautiful. We had so much fun. I just love that bar in general. Yeah, that was my favorite New Year's Eve, out on the town, and right at midnight I went home. It was perfect. That

Deborah (54:15):
is perfect. I remember another year, one of the last times I really remember going to a bar on New Year's was, and I now I can't remember the name of the bar, even

Robin (54:26):
though there was one year where we went to Gibson. Yes, it was the year that we

Deborah (54:29):
went to Gibson. And we strategically chose it because we lived in South Austin, and we knew that it was in South Austin at this time. This is a pre Uber timeframe, so cabs were so hard to get at the end of the night, so we made a plan. We're like, we're going to Gibson, we're going to see the ball drop, we'll stay 45 minutes more Max, and then we're going to go home before cabs start to get dried up, or the cab fees are more expensive, and we had a fully stocked. House of like late night snacks, booze, beer, champagne, music, everything, you name it. And we brought everybody back to the house, and that was the best of both worlds, because we got to be dressed up and be out and about, and then also just come back home and do what we do best, which is nosh and socialize, and that was like the best of both worlds. In my opinion. I loved doing that. But we also had New Year's where we stayed in PJs. I don't think you were at this particular one. Maybe you were was at Melissa and Evans. We had a PJ party, and we all just again showed up, had a little potluck, all brought booze and were wearing fun PJs all night, and some of our friends were very much in their bar hopping era, and they're like, there is no way I'm doing that. We're going out. You losers stay in, which is fine, that's their prerogative. But I love both ends of the spectrum. But obviously now in my elder age and non drinking life like New Year's looks a lot different this time around.

Robin (56:02):
It sure does. And that brings me to a game I made, do you want to play? I sure do. All right, it's a bracket, so I'm gonna give you two options, and you're gonna pick which one you wanna do. Like, obviously, everybody's gonna have differing opinions, but this is, this is your opinion, we're going what Deborah's opinion is, okay? Oh, okay, here we go. So fancy dinner out with friends or party downtown with friends.

Deborah (56:28):
At this stage in my life, I'm gonna say fancy dinner with friends. Okay,

Robin (56:32):
next late night scavenger hunt or murder mystery party. Oh,

Deborah (56:38):
murder mystery party all day. I've never been invited to one, and I would love to make that happen one day.

Robin (56:44):
I did it for my friend's baby shower,

Deborah (56:47):
a murder mystery baby shower. Yeah, it

Robin (56:51):
was, it was we did murder. She wrote theme. I made invitations. It was amazing. And it was during COVID, right? So we did it virtually. I had a wig on. Everybody had parts. I gave everybody backgrounds for, like, libraries. It was really fun.

Deborah (57:05):
Amazing, outstanding. Okay, next

Robin (57:09):
movie marathon in your pjs or an outdoor fire pit.

Deborah (57:16):
I'm gonna say movie marathon in pjs only because I'm in Ohio and being outside at the end of December sounds miserable, fair, but if I was in a more temperate climate, I would say fire pit. Well,

Robin (57:32):
in both scenarios, you get to hang out with your pals. Yeah, it's a win. Win. Okay, next dinner party at a friend's house or karaoke party girl, yeah, I know what you're gonna say, karaoke. Yeah, no

Deborah (57:47):
one wants to invite me to that party, though, because I already try to dominate my karaoke time at bars. So, like, you know, if I've just, like, untethered access to a microphone, people are gonna get sick of me real quick, but I put on a show. Yeah,

Robin (58:00):
you're very entertaining. You inspire me. I'll never forget when we did Single Ladies at egos. Yes, we went outside, we worked on a whole routine that was really fun. Like, that's a core memory, and

Deborah (58:11):
here's what's so funny, Single Ladies has a very clear dance to it anyway, like, there is an actual Single Ladies dance, and you and I just made up our own moves.

Robin (58:22):
We sure did. That's all you need. Why not? That's great. So, yeah, karaoke all day. Okay, so we're down to the next section, next bra cup, fancy dinner downtown with friends, or murder mystery party? Oh,

Deborah (58:36):
I'm gonna say murder mystery party. Okay,

Robin (58:40):
then we have movie marathon and your pjs or karaoke party. Oh,

Unknown (58:45):
my God, this is hard, right?

Deborah (58:50):
I'm gonna say PJ party. Surprisingly, I know, I know, but I'm saying a good PJ party. And wait, this a movie marathon PJ party, right? Yeah, even better.

Robin (59:00):
Okay, all right. This is the finals murder mystery party or movie marathon in your PJs. Two extremes. These are the two

Deborah (59:09):
most I don't like going outside activities ever. Okay, murder mystery or PJs. Murder Mystery, Oh, I love it. I know who thought I love it. I've never done one. I think it would be fun. And I pretty much watch movies and my PJs all the time, so it'd be good to switch it up, especially like,

Robin (59:30):
if you're doing a murder mystery party for New Year's Eve, like, what if at midnight, like, all the lights went out, and then the lights turn on, and someone's dead, a

Deborah (59:39):
murder? Oh, my God. And you could get dressed up too. It's like the best of both worlds. It could be like a Great Gatsby murder mystery.

Robin (59:47):
How did you know that that was my theme in my mind as well. In my murder mystery story, I'm in a flapper dress. Yes, that's exactly

Deborah (59:55):
what I was thinking. I was thinking of the tassels everywhere and a little headband. The feather, yes, yeah, my God, let's do it. What are you doing, honey? Let's do it.

Robin (01:00:05):
I will be an organ actually. Oh, fun. What's funny is our friend, Jackie, I don't know that we'll actually do this, but we were having a joking conversation about doing a murder mystery New Year's Eve party.

Deborah (01:00:18):
So, I mean, you got to now. You got to now, we'll see. We'll see,

Robin (01:00:21):
see what the mood is. It might be movie marathon and PJ's kind of stitch it probably will be, but

Deborah (01:00:28):
that's okay, yeah, we'll see. You can watch murder mystery movies in your PJs. Oh, best of both worlds.

Robin (01:00:36):
Oh, my gosh, brilliant. Love that. Well, great job. Great game. Onto our last segment of the day, our classy scenario. Is it classy? What is it today? Is it classy?

Deborah (01:00:50):
Going to bed before the ball drops? Robin, classy, not classy?

Robin (01:00:56):
Immediate. Yes, it's classy. It's so classy. Do whatever you want, go to bed at nine.

Deborah (01:01:04):
Time is a social construct. Okay? We just invented time to organize our lives. It can be midnight whenever you want it to be midnight. Well, you

Robin (01:01:13):
know what like whether I ring in the new year at midnight or when I wake up at 8am it makes no difference. I give I give my husband kisses all day, every day. I don't need to stay up till midnight to do that. Last year, we went to a party at our friend's house, and we left at 11. I was just so tired. We were in bed. Yeah, before midnight,

Deborah (01:01:38):
I would probably be looking at the clock too, like, Oh, my God, I can't do this any longer. Yeah,

Robin (01:01:42):
because we got there at like, six. Oh, you know, we were at Melissa's house, right? Like, I could, I could stay the night there, but we were socialized out. We wanted to get ahead of the drunk drivers and, yeah, all the craziness that comes with actually, in the bar industry, we called New Year's Eve amateur night. Yes, yes, that's one night a year where people who don't go out go out that it's St Patrick's Day. Yes,

Deborah (01:02:09):
those are the two nights of the year where it's just first timers club only. I actually have no idea what I did last year on New Year's I truly have no idea. I feel like all of our kids were together. But no, I have no idea. My God, my brain is just rotted away. Going back to if it's classy or not. Yeah, it's so classy going to bed before midnight. You own your time. You can make New Year's whenever you want it to be. There was one year when I was married, where we went to bed at 1150 just no reason to see it through any further. We knew where the ball was going, yeah. And we're like, you know what? We're just going to go to bed. And I think it's classy. You know? What was great when we worked at Fidel is they would celebrate the Irish New Year too. That's right, at seven? At seven, yeah, what a great sales strategy, because the bar would be packed. We'd have a swell of people, so true, and then they would say, and then it would just keep getting busier through the night. New Year's was, I mean, Patty's is a marathon, New Year's is a sprint, and they were both really, really hard to do, but if you can't make it up until midnight. Just pick a different time zone and celebrate that New Year's.

Robin (01:03:24):
I was actually about to say, a lot of parents change their clocks and they watch a ball drop or fireworks in another country or whatever, and they pretend that it's midnight with the kids. The kids think that they stayed up till midnight. Yeah, yeah. Like, okay, it's bedtime. Just make that your bedtime too. Like, we all stayed up till midnight somewhere. Yeah, now it's time for bed. Love that.

Deborah (01:03:46):
So make your New Year's whatever you want it to be. And if you don't see the ball drop, that's classy enough for me. Well, no matter what your plans are, we are wishing you the happiest 2025 the best mindset, all the positive vibes your way and the ability to handle any obstacle that you face this year.

Robin (01:04:06):
I love that right. Happy freakin New Year. Everyone. Happy New Year. We made it. You guys have the opportunity to listen to 52 more episodes in 2025

Deborah (01:04:17):
from us. Yes, stick around. Who knows where we'll be at this time next year? I'm so excited to find out.

Robin (01:04:23):
Oh my gosh, me too. That'll be a fun topic.

Deborah (01:04:26):
I know where did we end up at the end of the year? Let's circle back. Okay. Well, thank you for sticking with us so far. We're excited for all the things that are gonna happen this year. And just remember, classy is a state of mind,

Robin (01:04:41):
so mind your classiness. Everyone.

Unknown (01:04:43):
Goodbye, Happy New Year. Later, later you.