EP9: It’s Not a Cult, It’s a Compound: Building Our Dream Life (Part 1)

What if you and your best friends could design the ultimate dream compound—luxurious, cozy, and completely cult-free? This week, we’re diving into the fantasy of creating a stylish, village-style retreat where friendship takes center stage.

Join us as we break down:

- The perfect balance of personal space & communal living (because we love our besties, but we also love boundaries) - Must-have features—from cozy cottages to a stunning shared clubhouse - Aesthetic & vibe choices—chic, whimsical, or a little bit of both? - How to make this dream both fun to imagine & practical to build

If you’ve ever daydreamed about creating a bestie utopia, this episode is your invitation to indulge in the art of friendship-driven lifestyle design.

Tune in, dream with us, and tell us—what’s in YOUR ideal friendship compound?

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Quick disclaimer, friends – we're not doctors, just two people who love to share ideas and experiences. This podcast is for fun and informational purposes only. It's not meant to replace professional medical advice, diagnosis, or treatment. If you have questions about your health, definitely reach out to your doctor or a qualified health professional. Take care of yourselves and use what feels right for you!

Episode Transcript

Robin (00:09):
welcome to The Art of classiness podcast, a show where we redefine what it means to be a classy lady and sometimes it's messy. I'm Robin and

Deborah (00:17):
I'm Deborah, two friends turn classy ladies who are here to discuss life's ups and downs, navigating the complexities of adulthood and how the gift of friendship is essential to belonging. Today, we

Robin (00:27):
discuss our dream of living together on a classy friendship compound, and how it is definitely not a cult. We touch on our must have amenities and some conflicts that may arise when living together. So

Deborah (00:38):
follow along, give us your feedback, and don't forget to like and subscribe. What's up, classy ladies and gentlemen. Hi, how are you? I'm great. How are you doing? I'm good.

Robin (00:50):
We're enjoying a wet, rainy day in Austin, and I walked to get coffee in the drizzle, and it was fun. That is

Deborah (00:58):
fun because in Texas, it does not rain as often as it does in the Midwest. So that can be a nice, little pleasant, like, Oh, cute, it's raining. Yeah, I feel differently about that in Ohio during this time of year, because it's like, we rarely see a full day of sun. So rain is like, not as much of a pleasant surprise during the winter, you know, because it's just like, cold and rainy and gross, but in Austin, I do remember those days we were like, Oh, how sweet. I'm just gonna perch up on my couch with some coffee in this nice rain. Yeah, it's funny.

Robin (01:32):
Like, the number of times we bounce back and forth between the AC and the heater, because it'll be 70 degrees during the day and then 40 at night, like, all of a sudden it's freezing. It's yeah, pros and cons.

Deborah (01:43):
So, pros and cons? No, I totally understand that it is very cold here in Ohio right now, obviously winter time, but I have still been doing my cold plunges in the morning, which the winter is actually my favorite time of year. To do it, it doesn't really make sense to keep up that habit in the summer, if I made a ton more money, I would probably invest in a cold plunge that always stays cold, and that way it like, cleans itself. Yeah, it does all the things. Instead, I just got, like, the most basic, most affordable kind that is essentially like a vertical blow up pool. Yes, that I have to clean myself and keep cold myself, but it feels so good in the winter time to do it, even though a lot of people think that's wild, but it's colder outside than it is in the cold plunge. So sometimes it feels good to actually be in that water versus when I get out, and then it's

Robin (02:40):
way colder. Should you just stand outside? Then

Deborah (02:43):
okay, so no. And I have actually looked into this, because it's like, well, what is the difference between just being cold? Something about submerging yourself in cold water that is different than just standing in cold air. I don't know if it's a combination of like the pressure or just the complete wholeness of being cold. That makes sense, because what's funny is I actually hate being cold. I actually hate, you know, this time of year, taking my dog out for walks, and it's just so cold I'm like, I can't feel my toes and I can't feel my fingers, but the cold plunge really gives me this huge adrenaline rush, and it feels really good. It makes me start the day in a really productive way. I feel proud of myself for having the discipline to stay in it. So I'm glad that I have kept it up. It's been making me feel good in the mornings. That's awesome.

Robin (03:35):
Yeah, yes. Have you thought about doing it at night? I have

Deborah (03:39):
only recently, because, actually, yesterday, I was hanging out with my boyfriend, and he, even though I had already gone in the cold plunge that morning, he dared me to go in again. And I was like, Yeah, I'll definitely go in again. Like, I like doing it. Let's go. It was a good little mood lifter. Not that I was in a bad mood, but, you know, it was like, it gets dark so early now, and it's just hard to for both of us to, like, regain energy for, like, our date after we've both been, like, working in this true weather. So I was like, Yeah, I'll get in there. And I got out, and my adrenaline was just like, buzzing, and I like, it almost, you know, breathed new life into my mood. But then, like, an hour later, I started getting really sleepy, like, we had gone to dinner, and I was like, I'm gonna get like, a Diet Coke, because I could, honestly, like, fall asleep right now. And I think it was because once the adrenaline started, like, leaving my body, I started feeling sleepy. So I have not gone in this morning because I have an event after this, and after the event, I have the night to myself, and so I'm gonna cold plunge in the dark and then get all warm, and then hopefully have like, a blissful night's sleep. And that will be my Friday night, ladies and gentlemen, and I am so excited for it.

Robin (04:53):
That sounds lovely. Who knew you had to let me know how that goes? I definitely will. Melissa, they just have a pool in their back. Right? So this time of year, that's their cold plunge. Yeah, yes, I did it last year. And it's fun. It is. It's nice that you could just, like, jump in. Like, with the the cold plunges, you have to, like, climb in. Yes, it's more of a slow burn, yes, Melissa's you just go. You just go. And it's a fun, like, group activity. It

Deborah (05:22):
is, well, Melissa is the first one of us, first person I knew to cold plunge, because I remember she sent us a video, like, maybe two years ago on like, New Year's Day, like starting the new year off, like jumping in the cold pool. And then she was like, you guys, I'm gonna just do this every morning. I'm just gonna jump in this cold pool. And I was like, You are crazy. And here I am investing in my own cold plunge. And Melissa with setting the trends, once again, love to see it. So what else has been going on? Robin,

Robin (05:53):
I actually have an interesting story to share. Do tell a medical breakthrough, if you will, and that's not to say I'm providing any sort of medical expertise, because what worked for me may not work for you, but I've been having issues with this crown on the bottom row the back of my mouth every time I chew on something, like, it's a shooting pain, ouch. But outside of that, it doesn't hurt. So it's a little confusing. Like, is this an infection? Do I have a cavity? Is there a crack in the crown. So I went to the dentist. Everything looked fine, but he did notice a little bit of inflammation. I do have an autoimmune disorder, and so inflammation is something that I deal with regularly and coincidentally. The following day, I had an ozone IV therapy treatment, which is something that I get to help with the inflammation. So I asked him, like, do you think this could be beneficial? And he's like, you know, I'm really curious too. Let me know how that goes. So the next day, I went and got the treatment. Six hours later, I ate a steak dinner with no pain, ooh, and I tested before I went to ozone ADA chip, and I was like, yeah, it still fucking hurts. Got the treatment, and six hours later, I was pain free. So I emailed the dentist to let them know my success, and yesterday I had a teeth cleaning schedule. Saw him again, and he was like, thank you so much for your email. We had a meeting the next day about it, like I'm really excited to help patients of the future. Hopefully that's

Deborah (07:26):
so cool. Can you for the lay person, and also me explain what ozone treatment is like high level.

Robin (07:33):
So basically, ozone itself is a form of highly reactive oxygen, so it's introduced to the body through an intravenous route. So you use IV, they take some of your blood out, they add the ozone into it, and then they put it back in. So it boosts oxygen utilization. Like it's really good for your cellular energy production. It's good for your metabolism, but for me, specifically, it's great for your immune system, and it reduces inflammation. Wow. And I knew that when we were talking about this at the dentist, which is why I kind of pieced together, oh, if this is inflammation, maybe the ozone treatment will help. And it freaking did. That's awesome, and I'm so glad, because he told me he's like, if this isn't inflammation, I'm gonna have to give you some endodontist referrals, because you're gonna need a root canal. No, yeah.

Deborah (08:27):
Well, that is really awesome that that treatment worked, yeah, and hopefully it's working for other aspects of your auto immune stuff as well. It

Robin (08:35):
does. It helps a ton, because last year I was dealing with hives and I was losing my hair, even my eyebrows, so getting the ozone treatment along, it was supplemented with medication. I was working with a doctor and other stuff. But like combining it all, I'm back on track.

Deborah (08:53):
Well, great. I love to hear that. I love to hear that. Yeah, this year, my focus, you know, we talked about New Year's resolutions last week, and I am really trying to habit stack this year. So my focus is to add in one good habit a month. Because, you know, they say to, like, really make something a part of your routine. You have to do it consistently for I've seen ranges of time, but for the sake of a calendar, we'll say 30 days. So my thing for January is trying to wake up at five in the morning, ooh, even on weekend days. And the reason for that is I, and I feel like moms out there and maybe dads can relate to this when you are a parent, especially for me as a single parent, you know I basically, I mean, I already have two jobs, I would maybe even say three, because I almost consider this podcast as a job at this point, this

Robin (09:52):
is a third job. Absolutely. It's my favorite one, main two, my favorite

Deborah (09:56):
of the three, not making money from it yet, but we will someday hash. Tech sponsor us so doing all three of these things, and then the kids come home, and it's like full mom mode. By the time I get them in their beds and asleep, it's like 915 and that's when I want my own me time, which is, I think, why a lot of parents maybe stay up later than they want to, because you're trying to reclaim part of the day for just you, whether it's mindless scrolling or watching a movie or reading a book or whatever it is. And, you know, Justin, my boyfriend kind of had a paradigm shift with me the other day, and he said, What if your me time was in the morning? You know? What if you actually went to bed early and you woke up at five? And whether it's like working out, or maybe that's when you have your coffee, or maybe that's just like if you read or do some meditation, like starting the day with me time might help you just get a little bit more focus in your day, as opposed to just like, having it be at the end of the day when you're already, like, mentally spent. It's really good idea. So that is what I'm working towards. And then the goal is to not just do it for January, but continue to do it, and then, like, February, maybe, like, concentrate on other areas of health and exercise as well.

Robin (11:06):
I can say, from experience, waking up early is very hard for me, but when I do it, I'm always glad that I did it, because it does feel like you have more time to do things for you. The rest of the world isn't up yet because they're doing their own thing still, or they're still sleeping. Yeah? So nobody's bothering you, nobody's texting you or emailing you like you don't even have to touch your phone. Yeah? I love, I love those quiet mornings. Yeah? So

Deborah (11:34):
fingers crossed. The only challenge is the dog him waking up is potential disaster for him, waking my kids up, right? We get up, and then he's scrapping around. And now he knows how to go up the stairs, so sometimes he'll go up there. So I'm trying to figure out the best way to keep him quiet and contained. If only he would go into the basement, he will go up the stairs and down the main floor. He will not go into the basement whatsoever. If I could get him to learn how to do that, then, like, we could have that quiet time down there and, like, still keep the kids asleep. So still trying to work that out, but maybe that will just be the time that I take him on his morning, W, A, l, K. I have to spell it, because he's sleeping behind me right now, and I don't want his little ears to perk up. So we'll see. I'll keep you posted how it goes. Yeah,

Robin (12:24):
maybe I'll try to do that with you. But not 5am I like seven. There you go. Seven is a good number for me. Seven

Deborah (12:31):
is a good time. That is a good time. Cool. What was the classes thing you saw this week? So this is going to be a shout out to another podcast, actually, and kind of a funny story of just paths crossing someone that I'm connected to on social media. Also launched a podcast recently. I don't exactly know. I just saw, like, a recent update. And this is somebody who actually I met at faudo, and he was traveling through he was, like, on a business trip. This is back when I was waiting tables before I worked behind the bar. And he was super funny, also from Michigan, which is where I'm from, I wouldn't say flirtatious vibes. I would really not say flirtatious vibe, but just like, super quick, witty banter. And, you know, at that time I was dating, what would become my husband, who was deployed at the time, you know, so he was very respectful of, like, relationship boundaries and all this and that, and I had joked with him that, you know, he's like, what's your handle on, like, Facebook? And I was like, You will never find me on Facebook. I made my privacy settings, like, unsearchable, so if we don't have, like, a mutual connection, like, you will never find me on Facebook. Never find me on Facebook. And he was like, challenge accepted. Then the next day, I get a LinkedIn request touche. And I'm like, you dirty dog. I'm like, this is the most hilarious way to show me that, like, I know the internet, I will find you. And so we stayed connected. And again, it's just super friendly. In fact, when the next time he was in town, my ex John was back, the three of us went out together, and we were like, Yeah, we're gonna be in Michigan for a wedding this summer. And we told him where it was. He's like, that's like, 30 minutes from my house. Don't stay in a hotel. Come stay with me at my house. And we were like, Yeah, that makes sense. We will do that. And so when we went home to Michigan, we actually stayed at his beautiful house. He lived right on a

(14:29):
lake, so just kind of a weird, like paths crossing thing, stayed connected with him, ended up friending him on Facebook, but then obviously we're connected on LinkedIn. Years and years go by, and thenI see this update that he had launched his own podcast. And the reason I'm bringing it up is because the name of the podcast is authentic connections, and it's him and another male co host, and they talk about male connections and the importance of male community friends. With each other, which the tone of theirs is probably a little bit more serious than ours is. I feel like ours is a little bit more silly, but I listened to it, and it was such a great episode, and that I had listened to really talking about how men have a really hard time opening up and being vulnerable with each other, and how many of them struggle in silence because of this and just they don't even know each other's trials and tribulations. And so they wanted to create a space where men felt comfortable opening up about a lot of these emotional issues that they may have never been taught how to deal with, not only with themselves, but with their peers. So wanted to give Nick Milani a shout out here, and everybody should listen to their podcast, authentic connections. And I just thought that was really cool. The way our lives have kind of intertwined in that way, and just how similar these efforts that we're doing at the same time are so very classy move, very classy podcast. So had to give that one a shout out. Maybe

Robin (15:59):
down the road. We could, we could do an episode together, a little crossover, do

Deborah (16:03):
a little collab. You know, hit me up. Let's see

Robin (16:07):
Classy Ladies and classy fellas, exactly, all together. That would be really fun. That would be fun, okay, well, my classy thing of the week. Guess what? It's related to the elderly. Are you surprised? I am not so Seth and I were in Boston. You know, we go there regularly. We were grabbing dinner at a new place nearby. Is not new. It was new to us. And they had this, like, downstairs, basement area with a piano player and there's this girl singing, Oh, fun. It was, like, very like, speakeasy jazz vibes. It was fun. We were sitting next to this older couple, probably in their 70s, and it was the same night as the tree lighting and Boston, because we were right next to Boston Common so they did this tree lighting. There's ice skating. Oh, nice. I wanted to go check it out, until I realized it was the night of the tree lighting, and it's a big event there. So there were a lot of people,

Deborah (17:10):
yeah, we don't do crowds. We don't do crowds. No more.

Robin (17:13):
We don't do crowds. So they started talking to us because they saw our food, and they told us, like, oh yeah, we just came from the tree lighting. We didn't know what we were doing or where we were going, but because we're old, the police told us to just go through and we, like, got to the front, and then they giggled, we're old, so they we just get away with it. And I was like, yes, yes, the goals take advantage of that. Because what else? What else you got? You got

Deborah (17:40):
nothing. Well, you have a lot, but you know, you got to take advantage of the perks.

Robin (17:44):
That's a better way to say it. You got to take advantage of the perks.

Deborah (17:49):
You've earned. It you've earned that perk. They

Robin (17:52):
were joking about playing stupid. They knew what they were doing.

Deborah (17:56):
They knew exactly what they were doing. And that's when I was like, Well, you guys are awesome.

Robin (18:02):
So I just thought that was something to look forward to in my older years. Absolutely,

Deborah (18:09):
absolutely. People always talk about aging in such a dreadful way. You know, I feel like as a society, we kind of fear getting older. And for good reason, they tend to be overlooked. And, you know, I understand it, because people just crave youth, but, man, there's just so much to look forward to, to being old. I really I can't wait, and I can't wait to do what that couple did, like, oh, excuse me, is this? Is this the right way to go? You know what? Ma'am, why don't you just go ahead and going, Oh no, I couldn't, boss. Oh no, please, please do cannot wait, cannot wait to be that person that does that.

Robin (18:48):
I love it. Let's fucking go. They were great. We had a good time talking to them. I just thought they were a classy little pair. And we started to walk towards the tree lighting. We saw the crowd. We felt the Ice Cold wind blowing straight into our faces. And I was like, hey, what if we cross the street in this way and turn around and go back to the hotel? Beautiful. And that's what we did. What

Deborah (19:11):
if we avoid all of this? Actually? Yeah. And Seth was like, this great idea. That is a great idea. We love that. We love weaving early, you know, or

Robin (19:19):
never going at all. We just didn't go. We're never going at all.

Deborah (19:23):
Sometimes, you know, that's

Robin (19:25):
awesome. I'm so excited about our topic today,

Deborah (19:30):
Robin, take it away. What are we talking about? Today

Robin (19:33):
we are discussing how to build a classy compound, which is always an entertaining conversation, because you get to talk about big dreams. There's no financial hurdles, there's no we're not talking about the kids. We're not talking about the what's realistic. We're just big dreaming scenario, this thing, and

Deborah (19:53):
we should clarify. This is something we always talk about with our friends. Whenever we get together with whether it's a reunion or we are all in conversation together, it is, when are we going to build a compound where we can all live together, where we can all just, you know, sometimes it runs the gamut of like raising families together or retiring together. We all just want to live in a community built by us for us, where we can just intertwine our lives, and we're not alone in wanting to do this, because I always see viral posts that are like, five girlfriends got together and bought a mansion to retire in, or three best friends bought a home to raise their kids together. And I know that people have this fantasy of the village, recreating the village with their friends to merge your lives and just have that compound community. The most

Robin (20:53):
enjoyable part of life for me, anyway, is my community of friends, people that I love. So why not build a wonderland where we get to see each other every day?

Deborah (21:05):
Yes, so today we're going to be kind of walking through some of the logistics of things you may want to consider with your friend group if you want to build a classy compound community in the future. And this is actually going to be a two parter you guys, because next week, we are going to go into the decisions that we want to make in the future to have this be a reality. Robin and I are going to come prepared with a proposal for each other as to what would be the better, classy compound to create. But today, we're going to discuss some of the things that you need to take into consideration, whether it's the space, the people, the area, and we're gonna really flush this out together so that maybe it'll give you some ideas to do the same thing.

Robin (21:49):
Yeah, let's dive in. Let's

Deborah (21:51):
dive in. So the objective here is just to really create a space for you and your friends and family. Now, one thing that Robin and I both agreed on for us, this might not apply to you. This doesn't mean one giant house. When we say compound, we are talking about a bunch of either small houses or a lot of different private spaces and maybe one shared space. And these places exist because we have a group chat our good friend Melissa. I don't know what kind of saved settings that she has on Zillow. She is always finding potential properties. And not just like, Oh, here's 50 acres of land. Here is 50 acres of land, and it already has seven houses on it. They're all Casitas. And then there's like a main area in the middle, really just tailor made for a compound. So when we always talk about it, we're never fully sharing the same space, but there are communal areas that we could all be together. Yeah,

Robin (22:53):
that's the dream for me. Have my own space to retreat to, my own Oasis, but then we have the communal area in the middle with a giant kitchen, giant dining area, because obviously, if we're all living in the same community, we would be having community events regularly, cooking meals together, yeah, celebrating birthdays, having movie nights. Yeah,

Deborah (23:16):
it's not enough to just live close by. Because quite frankly, many of you guys do live close by, and you already know it's not enough. It's not close enough. We don't have enough shared experiences regularly for it to be considered a compound. So having that communal space in the middle is key in order for this to be considered a compound. Yeah, when I

Robin (23:39):
was doing some research on this. I was working in chat GPT, and it offered to give me an illustration, yes, yes, please. And it was beautiful. And it gave me ideas that I didn't have before, like it put all the homes in a circle, with the communal space in the middle perfect, and the pool, like it was a beautiful layout. It changed my whole perspective. We'll share it on social media. Give everybody some inspiration. Yeah, the picture is

Deborah (24:08):
wild and also exciting to look at, because you just dream like, man, one day, maybe that'll be a reality, you know?

Robin (24:16):
Yeah, it will be. I'm determined it will be. We're manifesting this, yes, you know. So what are some other necessities for a classy compound?

Deborah (24:26):
So I think a necessity is going to be in just that dichotomy of having your private space that you can make into your own while also having a close proximity, you know? So we touched on that a second. But I think what makes the compound and we need to address this now. What makes this not a cult is the focus on individuality as well. Okay? And

Robin (25:00):
you can leave if you want and when you want, and you

Deborah (25:03):
can leave if you want and whenever you want, okay, but forcing people to be together, 24/7, and having somebody become the leader, that's a perfect formula for a cult. So for me, I would want to have privacy, not just in the sense that I have my own house, but, you know, I would probably want some, like, good foliage around the space, maybe even an own private, like backyard, because another aspect that you want, like the communal space is nice, but it's also nice to invite people into your own space. Yeah, you know, hey, let's hang out in my backyard today. Or, Hey, let's go over to Melissa's backyard, or whoever you know the case is. So I think that ratio, for me, is a really important amenity to have.

Robin (25:46):
You know, it would be smart, I think, to create a list of rules for the community to follow, just to keep some kind of order. But I think we should have a separate list of rules of like, things to avoid, so that we don't become a cult, yeah,

Deborah (26:01):
and I think one we also need to address right now is we're not swapping spouses, you guys. No,

Robin (26:09):
no. There's no soft swinging. There's no swinging at all. No,

Deborah (26:13):
no. It is straight and narrow. And that again, another reason to not have a shared house, because you don't want to introduce that level of temptation, like maybe you're going for a midnight snack and somebody else's husband is going for a midnight snack, and you know, you just don't really want to introduce that temptation. So

Robin (26:33):
I love that the scenario for you is midnight snack, not that you've had too much to drink or,

Deborah (26:40):
well, that's true. I don't drink anymore, so that's not on the table. But right, so what I do is eat late night.

Robin (26:48):
It's just so Fancy meeting you here in the middle of the night at the fridge, eating Baloney, yeah, shall we share?

Deborah (26:55):
And then they're like, Oh, I didn't know anyone would be here. I'm sorry. I'm only wearing these tight gray sweat pants, and you're like, Oh, I'm only in my robe. That's how it starts, you guys, that's how it starts. And you need to avoid that, and you need to respect each other's boundaries. Just have your own home. Have your own home. Get your midnight snack in your own midnight home. So yeah, this is not a love pile. But also,

Robin (27:19):
like none of us are attracted to each other's significant others anyway. Like this is a non issue from the start.

Deborah (27:25):
It is a non issue, but you spend too much time together. This is the summer camp issue. That's fair. This is why people meet, you know their soul mate in high school. Quote, unquote. Because what are you gonna do? You just see the same 50 people every day for four years. You're bound to think one of them is meant to be yours. So you gotta have enough space. Another thing we strongly encourage is leaving the compound on a somewhat regular basis. Yeah,

Robin (27:50):
I think we need to be within at least, like 30 miles from civilization. Like, I want to have access to grocery store or a Lowe's or Home Depot, like to get supplies. Of course, I want us to have our own garden and greenhouse and like a rainwater collection. It would be great to be as sustainable as possible, but I'm not trying to go completely off grid.

Deborah (28:15):
No, we don't want to be like in a city, because then there's just too many people around? Yeah, but we also don't want to be in harm's way in the event that the world shuts down and we're not close enough to any place in order to prepare ourselves. So a good ratio of sustainability by way of gardens, maybe even some farm animals, the kind that makes sense. Gotta have

Robin (28:39):
chickens. You gotta have chickens and goats. I want chickens and goats and horses. Goats are

Deborah (28:45):
great because they basically are little gardeners for you. They clear spaces, they eat poison ivy, which I'm allergic to, and they level fields. So goats are great. We need chickens for the eggs and maybe sometimes don't eat the chickens.

Robin (29:00):
No, I can't do it. You

Deborah (29:02):
can't eat chicken. You eat chicken all the time. Robin, I will love them.

Robin (29:06):
They will become my pets. I cannot Kill my pets, but

Deborah (29:09):
you're gonna eat their babies. Yeah, think about that. They're

Robin (29:13):
not fertilized, okay, I know how eggs work.

Deborah (29:19):
So we have animals that are there as supplemental food, not primary food sources, or at least not primary protein sources. And we've got our delicious gardens. I will not be in the garden because we want these plants to survive, and I am really bad at doing that. But what you can learn, what I can learn, and I'm gonna have to, we have

Robin (29:39):
some friends with green thumbs. They can teach us, you know, it's important for everybody to help out. Like, yeah, we can't just have one specialist for each thing. Like, we all need to be contributing in some way. Everybody's

Deborah (29:52):
got a cross train. You can't just have one specialty, you know, yeah? So, well, Jackie is a great gardener. She's gonna also. Need to learn. Well, actually, Jackie's good at everything, so she's a bad example. She

Robin (30:03):
is, but she can't be the only gardener. Is the thing? She can't be the only

Deborah (30:07):
gardener. No, she really can't be, you know, I'm gonna have to learn how to keep vegetables alive in a garden at some point. You know, we should all have a few specialties, because we all have to contribute. Yeah. So cross training, your specialties, is going to be a must in order to keep cross training, the cross training, in order to keep the compound alive. I also do like the focus on sustainability. I think that's super important because it will make us feel more connected to the land that we're occupying and a little bit more pride over the space that we own.

Robin (30:47):
Well, I just love the idea of being out in nature every day. Yeah,

Deborah (30:52):
nature and friends is the perfect, joyful combination. I don't really know what more you

Robin (30:58):
need. This is why I want a giant tree house at the compound, I do

Deborah (31:02):
like the idea of a tree house. What is in your tree house? Are we talking about just like a platform that you can see it doesn't have all four walls?

Robin (31:12):
No, no. It has windows. Oh, okay, okay, like we're adults, we have fancy, giant tree house. It has a working heater and AC. It has running water. It's elevated. It has a deck and a zip line that takes you straight down to the pool.

Deborah (31:30):
Oh, you know what I'm actually picturing in my mind, and this is something, maybe this is where the idea was birthed in my brain a long time ago. But have you ever seen the movie hook? Yes, of course you have, because we're elder millennials. Where the what are they called the Lost Boys?

Robin (31:49):
The Lost Boys? Roofie

Deborah (31:50):
yo. Roofie yo, yeah, where that whole setup, that is what I want. It just a little bit more. You know, modern, actual rooms with walls and doors and houses, but that space that all these boys are living in that is the actual dream. But for adults,

Robin (32:09):
yeah, yeah, yes. And we could maybe make it a two bedroom, and people can take turns staying in there, like we'll have a little calendar, okay,

Deborah (32:19):
okay, a little love shack, if you will, up in the trees. Oh, oh, no, is that not? Are we not?

Robin (32:27):
Oh, what do they call that? When you're in jail, you get the room conjugal visit. We're already with our partners, so we don't need to do Never mind. Yeah, erase the we will not be doing conjugal visits because we will not be

Deborah (32:40):
swinging, and we won't be in prison, and this is not a cult. It's really important to emphasize that every five minutes, it's not a call. We just want to be living with each other, creating a village, and just always spending time with only each other. Yeah, we'll have locks on

Robin (32:57):
our doors. Yes, we'll have locks on our doors. You know what we should do? We should have little signs on our door, like, you know, sometimes you just want to walk over instead of texting in advance. Like, just have a sign, like, come on in, or, please don't, do not disturb. Just like at a hotel, don't bother me. A Do

Deborah (33:15):
Not Disturb sign, I think is important, but because boundaries and privacy are important. All of us love spending time together, but all of us love spending time with no one. Yes, and so having that availability to be able to be by yourself and take that time while also engaging with your friends that are just a mere set of footsteps away. What a dream. It's the dream. I'm excited. I'm salivating. Seriously being together and also being apart is super fundamental to making this compound work.

Robin (33:49):
Here's a question, what is a day in the life on the compound look like to you?

Deborah (33:55):
That is a great question, because it really depends on when we do this compound right?

Robin (34:01):
Let's pretend our kids do not need us. Okay,

Deborah (34:05):
kids are gone. We are not raising children anymore. Yeah, should we say early retirement years? Sure, in this scenario, I say that we're 50 years old, and we somehow, financially, can all afford to retire at 50, right? Money is no object. Money is not an object. We don't have jobs that we have to work at. Meaning, there's no commute, there's no working from home, because we don't want to drag the bandwidth down. You know what? I mean? Yeah, and we want to not be so connected on our traditional lives. So perfect scenario. We're 50, we're millionaires. We don't need to work. We have able bodies. A Day in the Life is waking up early, maybe being able to even see the sunrise, nice little cup of coffee. Morning yoga session in our yoga studio,

Robin (34:56):
I was thinking that exact thing, morning yoga session, absolutely. Absolutely

Deborah (35:00):
start with a good little meditation, move your body, feel the benefits of intentionality.

Robin (35:08):
I'm sorry, can you just imagine the amount of oxytocin that we will receive just by being near each other? I just think

Deborah (35:15):
we're gonna be vibrating on another level, you know? Yeah, just another level of clarity and of happiness and purpose. I think everybody has their daily chores to do, whether that is repairs on the house, whether that is the garden, whether that is tending to the animals, maybe just general cleaning. You have to have purpose, otherwise your brain goes to mush. Okay? We could have optional activities. Maybe we have, like a monthly book club, so you might have to catch up on some of your reading. Maybe somebody wants to put on some sort of TED Talk. We can do monthly TED Talks that people can talk about things that they're interested in, or different specialties, or maybe even just telling stories that they want to tell, so you have time for responsibility, creativity and intentionality. I think we should make meals together, optional, but encouraged. Yeah, I think communal meal once a week, communal meal once a week, absolutely and everybody contributes, and hopefully we'll be in an area that is agricultural in the way that we can go on hikes, we can explore nature. We can be of the Earth, if you will, right, be one with nature at some point during the day. Yeah. Why aren't we doing this now? Is my question? Well, because we're not millionaires and we can't, yeah, I don't have a job. We've our kids. I don't, yeah, I have kids. But one day, this is the dream. I think, if we just continue to focus on this and continue to talk about it, that this is going to be a reality,

Robin (36:57):
yeah, this is the first step. And, you know, as soon as I have the means, I will absolutely start literally planning this. And whoever wants to jump in can jump in. I am not going to wait on other people that has prevented me from accomplishing so many things, because I wait on other people to, like, make something happen. It's like, No, I am the maker of my own dreams.

Deborah (37:19):
Yeah, absolutely, I think you someone's just got to get the ball rolling, but we got to just keep it top of mind if we want to make it a reality.

Robin (37:28):
Yeah, I want to talk about guest houses. Yes, because, again, we are not a cult. We're not a cult. We want people to be able to visit two guest houses with, like, two or three bedrooms in each one, and then we can, like, alternate visitors. And of course, I'm sure we have guest rooms in our own homes too. But you know, if we want a family to come visit, they should have their own house.

Deborah (37:48):
Yeah, yeah, absolutely. I think encouraging outsiders into the compound is something we want to keep. I mean, we need to inspire others. We need to inspire others absolutely, yeah, absolutely, we do. Maybe we even rent it out. We rent it out to tourists. No, no, no, too far outsiders.

Robin (38:09):
That's an immediate No. They have to be vetted, yeah, they need to be friends or family. Needs to be people we know and

Deborah (38:16):
trust. Yeah? Okay, let me throw a scenario at you. We invite a guest. Maybe it is a family member and their girlfriend, or maybe it's even twice removed, like somebody that knew a family member that wanted to come check out the space. We know they're cool. We let them use the guest house. They love it so much they want to join the compound. What is the application process? What is the vetting process?

Robin (38:41):
Well, first of all, b, y, O, H, build your own house. Build your own house. Yes, not building your house for you. That's true. I'll give you the plans for my house. You can copy them. Yeah. I think it's good to have, like, some open plots for expansion. And that's where people can Yeah, add on,

Deborah (39:00):
yeah. They have to be willing to build their own house, and they have to be willing to subscribe to our ideology and be one with the compound. But having said that, people might not want to be there forever, people might want to eventually leave the compound. Maybe they want to go live in a different part of the world, maybe they want to be closer to family, or maybe the communal living is just not for them anymore. What do we do if that happens?

Robin (39:28):
We give them hugs and tell them they're always welcome back. They are always welcome back. Because we're not a cult,

Deborah (39:35):
because it's not a cult, it's not a cult, it's a compound. That's the name of this episode. I love it. So once your time to leave, you're free to go, and you always know that the door is open.

Robin (39:46):
Yeah. Then they get to use the guest house come back and visit us.

Deborah (39:49):
And they can always come back and visit I love this.

Robin (39:53):
Oh, and then, and then they could sell their home to somebody that wants to move into the community. Oh. Or maybe they'll keep it vacant and they just want to come back and forth. There we

Deborah (40:04):
go. We'll let them make that choice, because we're not controlling them or their decisions. Because,

Robin (40:09):
I mean, the compound could also be vacation space, where we go for six months out of the year. You know, I

Deborah (40:16):
think it almost will start like a vacation space. I guess it's hard to keep up with the gardening, though. Well, we might not be able to have some of those long term sustainable things when it starts as a vacation space, yeah, but if we purchase the property, build the area, have it be a vacation spot, then when we make the decision, this is full time living for us, this is very similar to like, if you are wealthy enough that you have a condo in Florida, and then you just get to that point in retirement where you're like, you know what? It's Florida full time. That's how we're going to get to this compound. I love it. Baby Steps little bit over time, baby steps, and then we're full submerged in that would probably be the healthiest way to get into the compound headspace. Yeah,

Robin (41:05):
and then we can take our time with the bigger amenities, like our giant tree house and the communal kitchen stuff like that. Here's a query for you. What are some of the funniest things that you think we might have some small Spats over living in such close quarters,

Deborah (41:25):
well, and again, this is, you know, we talked about having why private spaces are important, because shared spaces and, you know, the majority of people listening to this, I'm sure, have had roommates, maybe multiple roommates. So, you know, those challenges of sharing spaces together. This is why learning how to be together in those communal spaces are important. But people who don't load the dishwasher the way that you load the dishwasher is such a stupid thing. But man, is that something that when I see someone not utilizing the space correctly in a dishwasher? Boy, does that really grind my gears?

Robin (42:01):
I want to see a video of your how to show me how you load the dishwasher. This

Deborah (42:06):
was a thing I used to bitch about a lot at my office job, because, oh my god, the number of times I would see people finish their meal and then just set their Gertie dish in the sink and walk away without even as much of a rinse off. I would call out that entitlement every single time, like, I'm sorry. Who did you think that we put on payroll to clean this up for you? Because it's funny, it's actually not me, and you're responsible for picking this up. I would send out slacks. I would send out emails. I mean, I was kitchen police. I didn't like that version of myself, but you know what? That type of environment just brought it out of me. The same goes for when people put in a plate that is still caked with food in the dishwasher and then stack the plates directly next to each other. I'm like, I'm sorry. Do you think a little elf lives in here and then, just like scrubs your dish for you? Do you think the water? Do you think this is going to be soaked in a vat of hot, soapy water, and going to do this for you, like

Robin (43:17):
they say, with the newer dishwashers, like you can do that, but I have it seared into my brain that you must rinse before you like, get the gunk off. Get the gunk off. You're putting it in the dishwasher to be sanitized, not to clean the gunk off. 100% dishwasher is sanitizing for me, that is its purpose. Yes,

Deborah (43:37):
I totally agree with this. And also your food water is just going to be splattering around on the other dishes, and

Robin (43:48):
then you'll find food inside your water glass, like, it just gets stuck in there,

Deborah (43:52):
or, like, stuck between the tongs of a fork. Like, yeah, so we're gonna have to have rules about how you load the dishwasher to avoid me being pissed off every morning. That's the communal

Robin (44:05):
kitchen, right? Like in your own kitchen, not a problem, yes,

Deborah (44:09):
not a problem, not a problem. So that's one thing. What about you? What do you think of funny conflict that you could see yourself getting into in the compound we've talked

Robin (44:17):
about this already. You and I are both low stem girlies, right? And that's that's fine. It's just sometimes I'm not in the mood to be listening to music. So if somebody's in the communal area and they're listening to music, I just need them to keep it at a certain kind of volume, like, if we're all there partying or whatever. Fine, if we're doing our own thing, like I need you to not be having a concert next to my house.

Deborah (44:48):
Yes, when people are too loud too late at night, it brings out an anxiety in me that I can't quite Express. I don't I think I grew up in a house. Told where we are always being shushed. Okay? My mom obviously also had like overstimulation issues that I don't even know, that she has even realized about herself. But music too loud, TV's too loud. We're being too loud. We're playing too loud. I was made aware of that all the time, so it is challenging for me, even though I would know that we would be out in an area where we're not going to have neighbors complaining about us when people are too loud too late, it makes me very anxious. So I agree with you. I would, I would probably be like, can you guys, in fact, I when we were in Costa Rica. I don't know if you remember this Robin, but you and I had gone to bed. I don't even want to say it was that early, but it wasn't two in the morning, right? Because we weren't we weren't drinking, we weren't drinking, and we were staying in like a little boutique hotel, and people were staying up late by the pool, like playing guitar, singing songs, being so loud, and it just got to the point where they were like beyond rowdy. I literally got out of the room and yelled over the balcony for them to, like, keep it down. And I got some sass back, and I was like, I don't even care if I'm being old and curmudgeon right now, but like, it's time to go to bed. It's time to go to bed. Everybody that was great. Noise

Robin (46:16):
machines will be very handy on our compound.

Deborah (46:21):
Yeah, yeah, some kind of device to separate yourself from the other other mini compounds,

Robin (46:27):
yeah, yeah. Have a designated noise area. If

Deborah (46:32):
we had a room in there that was, like, highly insulated, almost like soundproof, you could go into

Robin (46:40):
well, and would we need a recording studio for our podcast that will still be happening? Yep,

Deborah (46:45):
30 years later, we'll be doing this compound podcast, yeah, and yeah, we will need a recording studio. Yeah.

Robin (46:51):
So everyone just crowd into the recording studio and make as much noise as you want. Yeah, yell in there and that's all you get. I love it. Well, great. We can get over those conflicts. Yeah, yeah. I mean, I think we would be able to get over any conflict honestly, like we have. We have been through so many trials and tribulations of our 20s and 30s, like there's not a scenario where we don't find success. I know I love it.

Deborah (47:19):
It's gonna be great. Well, we would love to hear about your classy compound ideas. Have you ever thought about doing this with your friends? Have you maybe tried some iteration of this? Maybe it was just like a week long vacation with all your closest friends, and you had the idea of all living together? We want to hear all of those stories. So email us at art of [e-mail] and we would love to hear more. Okay, that is a good segue to our bracket game this week, where we decide what amenities are the best ones to have on this compound. Now, in reality, we're going to have them all, but if we had to boil it down to rank the best amenity, then this is how it's gonna go. Okay, are you ready? I am ready. This is, I know this is gonna be really difficult for you, zip line or lazy river. That is hard because I love a zip line, mostly because of that. I think you should leave skit with Tim Robins, where he's only there for the zip line. Oh, that's so funny. It's so good. It is so good. The Lazy River also great. Because, I mean, what more could you want? You're moving along just waving at your neighbors, waving at your neighbors. I am going to go zip line. It's too fun. It's too fun. All right, is this a zip line into a pool, or is this a zip line from tree to tree? When I

Robin (48:49):
was talking about my tree house streams. The zip line goes to the pool. It goes from tree house to the pool,

Deborah (48:55):
then zip line. Oh,

Robin (48:58):
all right, pool or sauna sound.

Deborah (49:03):
I mean, we already eliminated the lazy river, so I feel like I'm gonna have to go pool because you need that wet refreshment on your body. Absolutely, there's gotta be a better way of saying that,

Robin (49:15):
especially if we're in Texas, which I don't think we would do a compound in Texas. Too

Deborah (49:20):
hot, too hot, too hot, too hostile. Okay, outdoor theater or fire pit. I'm gonna go fire pit because outdoor movie theater sounds like a good idea, but you gotta stay up so late to start the movie, especially in the summertime, like there's this great series in theory in Columbus called 614, under the lights. I think it's called. And in one of the parks downtown, with the city as the backdrop, they play movies in the summer, going into fall, and I've bought tickets. Once, and then I realized they're not even showing this movie until like 915 and it's on Thursday nights. And I'm like, I don't want to be downtown until like 1111, 30 at night, depending on the movie, and they open the gates at like seven. And so, you know, you get in and you, like, set up your little area, and so you want to get there kind of early, because you don't want to get a crappy seat, so then you're there for like, two hours before the movies. It's just a hassle. And so, you know, it's a great idea. In theory, I'm going to go fire pit, because you can start that bad boy up whenever you want. That's

Robin (50:36):
true. I would agree with that. Okay, next we have a VR slash gamer or a hidden speakeasy slash library. I

Deborah (50:49):
would love to live in a house that has a hidden room because childhood dreams that would be so cool. I'll let you weigh in on this. For me, personally, as someone who doesn't drink. I don't really need a speakeasy, you know? Well,

Robin (51:03):
that's why I put slash library. I get that. It's another communal area, but it's like a fun, moody vibe type room where you can go read a book, or we could have an espresso machine in there. You can make coffee or tea. Speakeasy maybe isn't the best word.

Deborah (51:21):
No, I get it. And I love the idea, because I want to be able to pull on the right book that would secretly open a door that part of the speakeasy. I think everybody agrees is the most exciting part. How do you get in? What's the password? How is this room completely concealed? And I love that I'm gonna go Virtual Reality karaoke slash game room, because we're doing a lot of low key things on this compound, and it would be good to have a space where we can really live it up, you know, get some adrenaline out, play some wild virtual reality games, sing some karaoke, which you know that I love. I'm gonna go Virtual Reality room. All right, I love that.

Robin (51:57):
Okay, we've got it narrowed down. This is where it gets hard. This is where it gets hard. We got zip line or pool. It's gotta be pool. It's gotta be pool.

Deborah (52:09):
Zip line is gonna get harder with age, and even though, as I've said many times before, we'll be Spry at 50 years old, at some point, it's gonna

Robin (52:17):
be hard. The zip line would go into the pool too. So soft landing, and this zip

Deborah (52:21):
line would go into the pool Exactly. So I'm gonna go pool. All right,

Robin (52:25):
fire pit, or VR slash game room. We gotta

Deborah (52:29):
keep the game room. We gotta keep the game room. That's a tough one. It is a really tough one because I want both, and we will have all Well, I'm not choosing in real life. Well.

Robin (52:37):
And you know what? I love fire pits, but I also hate them, like I hope that we could do a gas fire pit, because I hate, hate, hate smelling like smoke.

Deborah (52:45):
I know, I know you really do. I didn't even know that about you until we visited Lauren. I get it. You know, my boyfriend is always he's got a fire pit in his backyard, and the number of times he suggests that we do a fire pit, versus the times that we actually sit and do one, the ratio is insane. It always sounds like a good idea, and then we're like, Oh, I gotta get the wood. We gotta sit. You know how long we just sit there? We're just looking at it, you know what I mean? So I'd be fine with losing the fire pit.

Robin (53:14):
All right. Well, we're down to our final two pool, or VR slash game room. Oh, my God. Oh no, oh

Deborah (53:23):
no. I knew it was gonna come down to this. I knew it was gonna come down to this. This

Robin (53:28):
is a tough bracket. Just because like pool. How do you

Deborah (53:32):
say no to a pool? There are some people who genuinely don't like pools, though, which, I mean, I guess I understand. I like pools that don't have kids in them. Yeah, I like most things that don't have kids in them, except for my own. Yeah?

Robin (53:44):
Because I don't like to get my hair wet in the pool, I would just want to float. I want to feel weightless. That's what I like about pools. Yeah, oh yeah, when nobody else is in there and I can just, man, it's the best feeling

Deborah (53:57):
it is, and definitely would be nice to supplement as a cold plunge in the winter.

Robin (54:03):
But I

Deborah (54:04):
gotta go karaoke. I gotta go karaoke. I gotta do it. How do we have a compound without it? You know, I need to perform. Mama needs to sing. I need that entertainment.

Robin (54:14):
Can you imagine doing VR karaoke? Oh, my

Deborah (54:18):
God. There has got to be a VR game where you can sing as if you are performing in front of a massive stadium

Robin (54:26):
that has to exist already, right? Yes, like if

Deborah (54:29):
they had a Taylor Swift Aeros tour VR game where you could sing and act like you're at performing at the Aras tour. Get on it. Taylor Swift, I'll give you this intellectual property for free, for one ticket to your next concert, which won't be for so long.

Robin (54:47):
No, not just tickets. Dinner. Take me to dinner. Taylor Swift, let's hang out.

Deborah (54:52):
Take me to dinner. Yes, tell me all the easter eggs that we missed. Let's be friends. Yes, in exchange for friends. Ship. You can have this brilliant idea where you can perform the full eras tour concert. Oh my god, what a dream. And it could be have built in auto tune so you wouldn't even have to worry about sounding good. And you

Robin (55:13):
know what I love even more, the idea of the VR Room, because we could also be at the eras tour yes in VR yes or AR. Isn't that even better? What is AR? Augmented reality?

Deborah (55:32):
Yes. Look at how creative we are being in this episode, at the mere thought of having this compound. And this is the point of the compound. It just brings out the best in us.

Robin (55:44):
All right. Well, the winner of our bracket is VR slash game room, which, yeah, I'm surprised. I am too, but happily so I think this is, this is a room that would go in the communal home. Yes, because

Deborah (55:59):
it's a good way. I think it's actually the perfect winner, because it is a way for us to experience the outside world without leaving again. It's not a cult. But do you know what I mean? If we were like, Oh, I missed the Big Apple, I want to, you know, experience a day in New York City, boom, pop in that VR Room and you don't ever leave. You to leave, because you can just go there in your virtual reality. Yeah, that's great, and then you can stay next to your friends forever,

Robin (56:27):
huh? Moving on to our final segment of the day, classy scenario. I thought, I thought it would be good to link this to our topic today. So what do you think about peeing in the pool. Okay, I

Deborah (56:42):
don't think it's classy to pee in the pool. It's not there are classy ways of peeing in a pool, though, because I understand there are classy ways of doing it, and I'm gonna break it down for you. Okay, okay, I understand if you're the host house that you don't really want people always going in and out of your house with their wet bodies, you know, and getting water on the floor to use the bathroom whenever they have to pee. We

Robin (57:10):
would have a bathroom next to the communal pool, yes, but

Deborah (57:13):
in real life, where people aren't living on a compound,

Robin (57:17):
that's fair. Okay, yes, sorry, we're

Deborah (57:20):
coming back to reality. We're not on a compound. Got it? Got it. If you're at a house with a pool, and you don't want to be that person, that's always like getting in and out of the pool to pee, especially when, obviously, when you drink alcohol, you break the seal, you got to pee all the time. So I understand why people do it, right? Because you don't want to create that mess. You don't always want to get up. You have to gently excuse yourself. Okay, you have to swim away from the herd if you're going to pee in the pool. I feel like that is standard operating procedure. But beyond that, I think you have to continue to dilute the water by splashing in place. You don't want a concentrated area of your urine in the pool. So if you must remove yourself from the group, and you know what, you might feel embarrassed, I think you gotta tell people you're peeing, because I've been in situations where I've tried to stealth mode. I'm just gonna maybe act like I'm swimming over here to get something, and I'm peeing, and someone joins me, and I gotta be like, you don't want to be over here. You don't want to be over here right now. Okay, so sometimes you just got to be like, Hey guys, I need a minute. You know? You got to kind of, you got to swim away and delude like you are a synchronized swimmer. You know how they use their arms, just moving around. That is the classy way to do it. The most classy way is to get out of the pool, not pee in

Robin (58:50):
the pool. Yeah, peeing in the pool is not classy. It is not classy, period. The fact that you're okay with telling people that you're peeing in the pool, that's even funnier to me, because usually people that pee in the pool that you don't you don't say anything Exactly,

Deborah (59:04):
and that's where the harm comes in. That's why I'm saying, you know, sometimes you don't have to say anything because someone sees you and they know what's up, and sometimes they'll call it out for you, and that's fine, okay, that is fine. But it's the people who are just like, Oh, I gotta pee. It's a small pool. I'm just gonna go while I'm swimming right next to you. Get out of here, because you even though, whatever chlorine, all this and that I recently heard, and I don't know if this is true, if you smell chlorine, that means the pool's dirty. It's

Robin (59:34):
because there's pea in it and there's pee in it. Yes, chlorine does not have a smell. It's the urine mixing with it that creates what we remember from our nostalgic childhoods of what a pool smells like. That's because kids would be peeing in the pool. See,

Deborah (59:50):
the worst, the worst. This is not quite the same, because it's a hot tub. But let me tell you the story of a time in high school where I was hanging out with some boys.

Robin (59:59):
Ew, pee. In a hot tub is just hot on hot like, oh,

Deborah (01:00:04):
not only did someone pee in the hot tub, the next day, I woke up with a rash all over my body. They were like little, tiny circles that honestly look like chicken pox all over my body. Now, mind you, I was not supposed to be hanging out with boys in a hot tub, okay? And I kind of knew immediately that that was probably the culprit. Because, like, why else would I have that? I obviously didn't have bed bugs, so I had to tell my mom. I can't remember why I told her I was in a hot tub or where I told her, like, who I told her I was with, but she took me to the doctor, and the doctor said that I had a condition get this called Hot Tub rash. Hot Tub rash, it is when you are in dirty hot tub water and it reacts with your skin. I'm sure there's probably a more scientific name for it, but she I'm like, great. Thank you for telling me something I already knew, which is that I have a rash from a hot tub. You know, I gotta pay a deductible for this. Are you kidding me? So peeing in a hot tub, not classy ever under any circumstances. Do you not pee in a hot tub, peeing in a pool only if absolutely necessary, but you should remove yourself from your group of friends before you do it.

Robin (01:01:23):
Yeah? Well, my answer is gonna be, just get out of the pool. Go pee in a bush. Go pee in a bush. Man. You don't even have to go inside. You could still tell everybody, hey, I'm peeing over here. I know, I know, I get it. It's hard to get out. It's convenient. I'm not saying I haven't done it before, but I'm of the age where I'm like, okay, Robin, yeah, we're too old to be peeing in pools. Get out. Get out of the pool and go pee. Just get out. Or I just stopped getting in the pool all together.

Deborah (01:01:51):
Yeah, sometimes you can just look at a pool and you can tell I'm not getting in that it's too murky. If it's too murky, my

Robin (01:01:58):
skin's too sensitive, like you telling that hot tub story, like, that's me if I use the wrong shampoo, yeah? Like my skin is so sensitive to even chlorine, like swimming around someone else's pee, yeah, not good. Yeah. Okay, so peeing in the pool is it classy? No, no, it's not. Do we all do it, yes, yes. Are we still classy? If we do it? Sure, yes,

Deborah (01:02:27):
you can always find your way back to classiness. Okay, you're gonna make mistakes that are not classy. You can always redeem yourself and become a classy person again. Always just do better next time.

Robin (01:02:40):
Yeah. I mean, we're human. Just do better. We're allowed to make mistakes. The sun is gonna come out tomorrow, okay? And that's a new day for you to class it up. Classy is messy and classy is messy, but classy is not peeing in a pool, no. And that's the final word, all right. Well, let's park this car. I had so much fun talking about a classy compound with you, and I really look forward to dreaming even bigger and picking the perfect destination for our classy compound.

Deborah (01:03:09):
Yes, I can't wait to continue this conversation next week. So in the meantime, remember classy is a state of mind.

Robin (01:03:17):
So mind your classiness. Everybody. Goodbye.

Deborah (01:03:21):
Bye. You.