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So if dad's and mom's parent differently, wouldn't it be the same when it comes to running a practice? Well, it is men and women often run their practices differently, and that's not bad actually.
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It's a strength, but it is something we need to be aware of because if you're a woman in healthcare and you're building a practice, chances are you're more likely to potentially.
Fill gaps.
Overfill yourself or nurture beyond a point that is healthy for yourself and carry an emotional load of your practice in a way that you simply weren't meant to and that men typically don't.
So today we're gonna unpack the difference between masculine and feminine practice styles and why we do not need to just take a masculine practice and superimpose our vision on it.
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But instead, we need to build a practice that is designed for us, but has strong boundaries and how to build automations that can protect both you, your team, from carrying too much.
Plus.
I'll also share why support staff is amazing when you have them, but how you can build systems to work even when you don't.
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Hey, friend, and welcome to the Boutique Practices Podcast.
If you're a woman in healthcare who's felt torn between your mantle as a healer, and let's just say the rest of your life, you are not alone.
If you've been praying for a business model that is low maintenance part-time.
All cash, highly profitable and potentially social media optional because you don't have time to be dancing on TikTok all day and you know that you can deliver life-changing results for your patients, but you need something that allows you to have the margin you've been craving, then you're in the right place.
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I'm your host, Dr.
Alex, and I'm here to show you how to use heavenly strategy to grow a practice and a business that honors every role God's given you.
From your practice to your home and everything in between.
Think Proverbs 31.
Wisdom meets boutique practice simplicity.
So whether you're rocking scrubs, yoga pants, or a spit on cupboard t-shirt, take a deep breath, press play, and let's build the dream practice God's placed on your heart today.
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All righty.
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All righty.
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Welcome back to the Boutique Practice Podcast everyone.
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I'm super excited to be here, and today I'm here with Dr.
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Lauren.
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Hello.
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And we are gonna, Hey, Dr.
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Lauren.
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We are gonna dive in.
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it's a juicy topic that I feel like it's a topic that Dr.
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Lauren and I have talked about several times.
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and it's a topic we talk about all the time in the Facebook groups, I feel like, as women.
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but like, we don't really like, like really air it out.
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So let's, we're just gonna dive in.
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Dr.
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Lauren, can you tell me a little bit more about that conversation we were having when it comes to the difference between a masculine practice and a feminine practice? Yes, I.
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Was sharing a personal story from early on in practice for me, and at the time I didn't, I didn't even have the layers of having kids yet.
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I was married at that time, but I didn't have kids yet, which, if you're listening to this and you're a mom, you know that once you add kids to your life, that's a whole other layer of just like.
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Scheduling things and having to balance your, your time and your energy.
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So first before I jump into my personal story, I'll kind of break down those thoughts around like the masculine approach and the feminine approach to things, and I'll bring it around to how I had this light bulb moment that that was even.
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A thing through my own personal experience.
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So with the masculine approach, a lot of times it tends to be more cut and dry, more black and white, more transactional.
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And also, another thing I noticed is also like the output and the volume and there's just kind of, there's just like a different energy behind it.
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Sometimes it can be.
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More is more, in my opinion.
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So with a feminine approach, there tends to be more of that nurturing, more of that carrying the emotional weight, more like kind of negotiating and just being like soft hearted in a way.
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Not to say that our male doctors aren't, there, aren't soft hearted or compassionate, but it's just like a different lens and a different approach that that feminine approach brings to the table.
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And um, I've seen this through, like I mentioned, my own experience and my example specifically when I was starting out fresh back then, this was 10 years ago.
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There weren't as many female voices in the larger stage as it relates to.
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You know, stars in the profession who had very successful practices or, or management groups or consulting firms.
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And so I joined a management group because I didn't know anything about the business and I really wanted to learn the ropes.
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And after months and months in trying to fit into this mold of success, I felt like I was failing.
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I was like.
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I feel like I'm doing all the things they're telling me to do.
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Um, you know, hopping on the coaching calls, which at the time were like 8:00 PM at night and eight to 9:00 PM I remember getting home from work and like sitting in my car after seeing a shift of patients until six, closing up shop, and then sitting in the car, in the, in the parking lot of our apartment complex, like being on a, a coaching call.
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And for the longest I was like, I'm not seeing the success, so where could I possibly be going wrong? And after I, I left that group, I realized it wasn't a, a fit for me.
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I had a light bulb moment.
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And you know, there's that saying of hindsight is.
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2020 where I realized I was trying to fit myself into this masculine model of practice where, you know, the men that are running these practices, they aren't cyclical like women's.
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Of course we have our actual cycles, our hormonal cycles, and then we have.
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Cycles within our life with pregnancy, postpartum, if we're breastfeeding, all of these things.
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And then also, a lot of times they had staff members usually that work wives, or you know, sometimes a family member, a mom, a mother-in-law, or somebody who was running their admin side of things.
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Or if they weren't in the office, they were.
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Taking care of certain things at home.
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So here I am, you know, a doctor and a wife trying to do my part in my household and also run this practice and expending all this energy that isn't really considered of, you know, our natural.
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Cycles and rhythms of life.
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So it's no wonder that I was feeling like I was failing.
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I was feeling super burned out, and I wasn't seeing the level of success that I thought I should have been because I was doing all the steps.
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You know? So once I had that realization, it was such a turning point for me because I realized that number one, it's not to say either way of doing things is.
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Wrong necessarily, but that masculine approach that we, that we talked about is, you know, where it's a little more.
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Cut and dry.
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It's a little more, you know, they can sustain that super high volume, high energy model is gonna be different than the model that's working better for me now, which is more considerate of my energy and my rhythms throughout the day.
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And what other, um, mantles like we've talked about, the different responsibilities and things that we have been, you know, blessed to have, our purpose tied into those things as well as wives, mothers, and doctors and all the other hats that we wear.
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So that was, that was a big, that was a big moment and a turning point for me.
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And I think Dr.
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Alex, you had mentioned as well, with some of your experience, especially, it's unique for you because you work side by side with your husband, so you even have a different, a different very closeup perspective that I probably don't with that.
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Yeah.
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I would say, you know, when I first started on my own, my practice was I, I went for the boutique model, didn't really know what it was.
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I had just seen other people doing, other women, you know, starting with small practices, micro practices.
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And growing them.
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And I was like, that's what's gonna fit in my life right now.,
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It wasn't so much like masculine versus feminine, but until I really started to dive in and grow the practice and look at scaling alongside of my husband, and what I realized and recognized was not only is there not really anybody teaching how to do a boutique practice from like the logistical side of a smaller, low, low overhead practice, but there really, like you said, weren't a whole lot of women.
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Coaches out there who were coaching a model designed for women.
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You know, we had looked at working with some and had worked with a couple of different groups that they had women in them, but they were really just taking the standard male model of practice and, and then, you know, trying to make it work for them as women and.
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The advice I got several times was you basically just need to hire out all of your household responsibilities as a woman.
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If you wanna be successful, like you need to have a cook, you need to have a Gleaner, you need to have a laundry person.
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And while I look like I'm not gonna lie, like I don't wanna do any of them, all of that on my own, I also recognized that I was abdicating my role to other people.
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And yeah, I can make.
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More money and the time that it takes for me to do certain things around my household.
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But at the same time, some of the things that I was outsourcing are, were also.
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Ministries and mantles I needed to wear because that's when I would teach my children how to do those things or spend time with my children.
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Like cooking for my children is a time to also connect with them and communicate with them.
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You know, teaching them how to fold their own laundry, not just because I, you know, don't wanna hire or pay for somebody else to do it.
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Like honestly, I would rather do that, but when else are they gonna learn? Like we have to raise up our children and I realize that.
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While I was trading my time to earn more money during that time, I was losing time with my family.
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'cause most of the things that I was trading time for, I would do alongside my family.
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And so it just, it wasn't working.
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The same, you know, it was the same thing.
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More is more and you have to do the most and you have to just keep going and push and like do all the things.
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And so I noticed like the a, a star like kind of line.
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In the sand.
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They were the women who were like forced, like they were just pushing through this more masculine model.
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And I remember, you know, talking to some of my friends who had been in, you know, some groups that were.
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They were targeted towards women, like they, not targeted, but like they were designed for pediatric prenatal practices, which tends to attract more women, but they were ran by men.
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And the women that I knew that were in those groups were burnt out.
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They were exhausted, they were frustrated.
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Kind of like you were saying, Lauren.
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They, they were like at the point where they were a couple years in practice and they hated practicing and they thought they made a mistake and they wanted to have a family like they were.
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Or there was the other side, which I saw often with other off practitioners and offices that were a husband and wife couple, where the wife basically ran the practice, ancy patients anymore.
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And it, I remember being in chiropractic school saying, you know, when my husband started, he started a couple, uh, trimesters after me.
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I was like, why would I, you know.
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I'm gonna end up running the practice, I should just drop outta school.
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There's no point in spending all this money to become a doctor, to then be an office manager.
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And we decided that's not the direction.
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'cause I really wanted to practice.
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But then I got there and that was really the, the two avenues.
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It was like push, push, push, push, push.
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You know, be the boss babe and have, you know, you know, help to do, pay basically everything in your home.
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And then, or you know.
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Be an office manager, which, you know, I'm like, I'm way overqualified to manage my husband's practice for him.
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And so, you know, that's, that's when I realized, you know, we have to, there has to be a different way to practice and so, yeah.
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I was gonna say I had that experience as well where there, there were like female voices.
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Right.
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But I feel like there has been a, a transition in a wave of like still there a lot of.
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People who continue to be, leaders and women specifically, right? That continue to be, thought leaders and continue to do coaching and all of these things.
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And they are doing it different than boutique practices, right? But.
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They also, like you said, hit that stage of being burnt out and where things weren't working and where important parts of their lives were kind of crumbling behind the scenes, whether that was their health or the time they were able to spend with their families or their relationship with their spouse.
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And so I feel like there's been a change of change of the tides.
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You know those women that are still leaders 'cause women can obviously lead, right? And that are still really crushing in their practice.
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'cause women can can do that.
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But there's been just a change in the tide and the change in approach of doing that because I think as a whole we're recognizing that it's not.
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Apples to apples as it relates to work.
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What works for women in practice and what works for men in practice.
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And then I also wanted to say, 'cause you mentioned like the things that we do at home, behind the scenes, right? And it's not, it's not like a gender roles thing because.
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I have a husband who he's very involved with us taking care of the kids.
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He's great with doing pick up and drop off for school, and he does lots of things around the house that keep the household running, but because we're a partnership.
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I have my things too, and you know, like Dr.
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Alex used the meals as an example.
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That's something I really enjoy is being able to be home for dinnertime because it's not so much about these roles as much as it is having that presence within your home because you're not replaceable there.
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And so whatever that looks like for your family.
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Maybe your husband's the great cook and maybe you're the person that does bed and bath and homework or whatever, vice versa.
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So it's not really about that as much as, you know, you're not replaceable in that role.
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And, um, you know, we have these very important hats that we wear outside of practice, and that's not something that you have to.
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Forfeit, and it's something to really heavily consider that.
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It doesn't have to be, oh, I'm gonna outsource all of these things in my household for the sake of trying to fit myself into this male shaped mold.
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Yeah, I, and I agree, and you shared something about cycles too, that I think is really important to recognize.
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We have different seasons in our life, and when I look at, you know, some of the, the women that I have looked up to, admired coaches and the industries, oftentimes when they are in this point of like, they've reached it or like they're in the flow.
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They're in a completely different season of life than I am as a young mother.
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They have teenagers or kids leaving the home already.
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They are not breastfeeding.
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They're not up multiple times at night anymore, and maybe they pushed through and worked through that, you know, pushed through that phase of life.
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At the same time I've had the opportunity to talk to some of 'em and they're like, I, they regret ha pushing through that.
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Not all of them, not everyone, but I have had several conversations with women who are like, yeah, I pushed through that season of life and you never get it back.
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And, oh, I miss that so much.
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I feel like every parent says that at some point.
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Like they're like, they miss this stage and they wish they had been more present in the moment.
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And I had this realization when my now 8-year-old, but was.
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I think he was five and a half or six, like didn't wanna give me a hug on the way into, uh, school because it was embarrassing.
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I'm like, oh my goodness.
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Like, I've, we're already here and I, I blinked and it's already over.
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And I'm like, no.
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Like I don't, I'm not gonna get this time back.
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And I would rather honor the season that I'm in and then when they're teenagers and they don't wanna have anything to do with me, you know? Free time.
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Like I don't have to make sure they're not choking on, on something.
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Like obviously you gotta, you know, take care of teenagers too.
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And it's a different from a different lens.
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But I, I, you know, even in my connect group in my life groups with friends who have kids that are older, you know, they're, they're, the way they can move through life is just different 'cause they're in a different season and.
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I think building a practice will look different then too.
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And so I think that's important for us to honor that.
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And really important for us to honor some boundaries.
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And so this episode we've already like really kind of dived into some layers that, you know, we're kind of just going off the, uh, you know.
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Going with the flow here.
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So we're probably gonna have to do a part two to this episode, y'all.
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Um, so stay tuned for that.
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But I think it's really important for us to recognize that, if we want to honor the season we are in, we also have to put boundaries in place because it is so easy for us as women to, fill a gap and to be nurturing and to be, wanting to protect our.
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Practice just like we would our own children.
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And that over time, if you don't have boundaries in place, can become very draining.
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Sometimes I have to remind myself in my practice and, and I've built out systems and flows for this and boundaries for this because.
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If I don't ultimately like, I'm like, I wanna, I wanna keep, you know, people in my nest, and I have to remind myself like my practice is Dr.
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Mama Bird.
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Sometimes you've gotta push people out of the nest and you can actually do that very gently with boundaries and systems so you don't have to, you know, I, for a while, I really, I brought people in that needed a ton of coddling until I did not have the capacity to do it anymore.
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And then I started to resent my patients.
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'cause I was like, I gotta, I gotta mom at home and I gotta mom here, but I just don't have the capacity to mom that way.
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Everywhere that I am at the level that, you know, in the way that I have been.
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And so learning to create a boundaries in our practice allows for us when we go home and we carry that second shift.
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And again, it's not about, like you said, gender roles.
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'cause my husband is also very similar to yours where he's like, he's very active and he does a lot of things that I never saw my dad doing that I never really expected, a man do and he just dives in and does it and I love it because it really is, amazing.
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It, and at the same time, like as a mom, I'm irreplaceable.
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The way he parents is very different than the way I parent.
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And kids need both and so, When we come home to that second shift, which we all have regardless of the gender roles, we have to make sure that we have the space and the capacity.
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Like, I don't wanna give everything to my patients and give the leftovers to my family.
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And so that's where these boundaries come in and why they're so important.
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And so, I'm just gonna say, I'm gonna call it in the next, in the next part two to this episode, we're gonna talk about.
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What those boundaries actually look like, how to put them together, and, uh, how to leverage automations to protect your time, protect your energy, protect your sanity, um, and, and really just I attract the right people to your practice in the first place.
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So, as we wrap up, Dr.
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Lauren, is there anything else you wanna add to this conversation before we we switch off here? No, I, I think that's great.
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I'm just already looking forward to the next.
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Episode where we jump in because some of these things can sound kind of like, well, how on earth am I gonna do that? You know, like, it sounds almost too good to be true, but really with leveraging automations to protect your energy and establishing those boundaries that you talked about, it's really, really possible.
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Um, you know, not only have you and I done it, but.
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Boutique practice.
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Students of the past have done it as well.
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So, um, it's gonna be, it's gonna be great to just really dive into that.
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So if you're listening to this and you're like, oh my gosh, how that sounds awesome, but how is this actually going to work? We have you covered on the next episode, so don't fear.
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Yes.
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And we will see you there.
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And if you wanna be in a group of women who get it, like this conversation is really resonating with you and you're not, you know, you're not alone.
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Join us in our school group.
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I'll put the link in the show notes 'cause, and that's where you're gonna meet some of your biz besties.
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That's where you're gonna meet other women who are feeling the exact same way.
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So go to the, go to the link in the bio or in, in the description or whatever it is, and check out the group, join the group, connect with some other ladies, uh, who are feeling and doing the exact same things, and we will see you in the next episode.
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Hey girl.
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