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May 16, 2025 15 mins

Explore the transformative connection between wellbeing and performance with Georgina Halabi. In this episode, Georgina discusses the vital importance of nurturing one’s mental and emotional health as a foundation for achieving professional goals. Listeners will gain valuable perspectives on how to cultivate resilience, mindfulness, and emotional balance while excelling in their careers. Tune in to discover the art of maintaining wellbeing in the pursuit of success.

 

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(00:00):
There's so much that I love aboutwhat I do, but the biggest myth,

(00:03):
two biggest myths I wanna debunk.
One is you don't need anybody out there.
You've got everythingthat you need inside.
And the second thing is you canhave peak performance and wellbeing.
Don't ask if, ask how,and then work on that.
I think better than having allthe answers, it's amazing to
ask the right questions, andthat's what coaching offers.

(00:26):
You are listening to Brainwork Framework,a Business and Marketing podcast,
brought to you by Focused-biz.com.
Welcome back to another episode withus today is a certified performance
and well being coach hypnotherapistamong many other expertises with
us today is Georgina Halabi.
Thanks so much for joining us.
How are you today?
Yeah, I'm happy and well glad to be here.
Thanks Chris.,
Absolutely.

(00:46):
So tell us about your journey.
What were you doing before?
How did this kind of bring youinto what you're doing now?
So before I used to workin advertising agencies and
marketing technology companies, Istarted off in direct marketing.
This is how old I actually am and aboutsix years ago I was living in Singapore.
I lived there for 18 years.
I now live in the UK but I was in ameeting and I literally had like, it

(01:09):
was like I stepped out of my own bodyand I thought I'm not helping anyone.
I'm selling loyalty platformsin a saturated market.
What am I doing here?
And the same week I signed upfor coaching to get my diploma,
to get my qualifications.
I carried on working part timebut when COVID hit .I basically
said to the company, That's it.
I'm out.
I want to be coaching full time.

(01:30):
If you want me to help coachthe teams, I'm happy to do that.
And incredibly, they went, Yeah, okay.
So that year, I actually workedwith them for a little bit but then
I really launched out on my own.
I read this quote.
I think it was Tony Robertson that said,May the boats that I burn light the way
and I was like, I'm going to go full oncoaching and I had a very specific brief.
I want to earn this much moneyand I want to be earning, I want

(01:52):
to be working 20 hours a week soinstead of asking, can I do this?
I asked, how can I do this?
And I got very focused on that.
What skills do I need to upgrade?
What areas do I need to focus on?
I spent a lot of time thinking and
going slow so that I could runfast and it's got to be one of
the most amazing years of my life.

(02:13):
I pretty much said yes to so much Ilearned and I grew and even though
it was COVID it was just amazing.
So here I am six years later, I work withleaders and executives founders and really
it's all about having peak performance.
And well being not one atthe expense of the other.

(02:33):
And it's been really important for mebecause I've always had a hyperachiever
tendency but it's always been reallynecessary for me to have that inner
peace, outer success, inner peace.
And I think you need both.
You can't have one without the other.
Absolutely.
That's an incredible journey.
Love to hear how you kind ofgot into what you're doing.
And it's so true that trying to managethat peak performance without burning out.

(02:57):
That's a new concept for me.
I'm just all go, go,go and then I burn out.
I need an app.
I need three days offbut then I'm back later.
How do we find this balance?
This is new to me.
So to me, there's two aspects of that.
One is how you're spendingyour physical time, right?
Running around and tryingto jam in too much.
Now I'll look at my time and go,okay, all meetings on one day I'll
back to back them and then certaindays I will have off, right?

(03:20):
Make sure I can go tothe gym or do whatever.
So some of it is structural.
You get really intentional with your time.
It's like, where am I now?
Where do I want to be?
What needs to go?
What can I do about it?
The other part is, of course,your mindset, because often
overwhelm lives in the mind.
You could be at home spending areally peaceful time but your brain
is in turmoil and you're thinkingof all the million things that you

(03:42):
have to do when you're overwhelmed.
You could be overwhelmed without evengetting out of the bed in the morning.
So slowing it down and becoming awareof your thoughts and noticing the
response it has on your emotions,on your energy and on your behavior.
That's the real area of interest to me.
So once you're able to start observingyour thoughts, you get to slow it down.

(04:03):
You need a pattern interrupt.
Instead of go, go, go overwhelm.
You go, what's the thoughtthat's creating that overwhelm?
You start to get really curious about it.
My particular level of overwhelmis I'm not going to have the
energy or I'm not going to have thetime, better not be too successful.
Better not be not successful.
Right.
It's a bit of a tight rope.
And I'm like, where isthis belief coming from?

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I've got lots of time.
I've got lots of energy.
How do I want to use it?
That's the more interesting question.
So it's really about arresting orbecoming aware of the thoughts and
changing the narrative, looking at thebeliefs behind that and reframing them.
So the mindset can kind of go into ourperception, our attitude and this can
shape our reality and how we interactwith each other and how we communicate.

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How we live our lives really affects usconsidering just the craziness that goes
on in the world, the uncertainty, somepanic, some people have anxiety just
the current going on, what can peopledo to kind of free their mind and not
fall into that trap of the constantworry and anxiety and live a more free

(05:06):
and fulfilling life with their mindset.
Okay.
So big subject here but basicallyour mind is wired to threat.
It really is wired to our threat.
We have 80 percent of 85 percent ofour thoughts are negative and it's
really there to try and protect usright to try and protect us from
being eaten by a woolly mammoth.
But equally nowadays to protect us frombeing disrespected to protect us from

(05:30):
uncertainty, our mind, even just thinkingabout uncertainty or being treated
unfairly or the injustice of the world.
Think about something now andget everyone in the audience.
Think about something nowthat feels threatening to you.
And there's so much out there, right?
If you've got a mobile phone, it chasesyou around, firefighting first thing in
the morning and as you think about it,What do you notice happening in your body?

(05:52):
Chris, what do you noticehappening in your body?
I'm getting super tense.
Super tense, right?
Well, what else?
Where can you feel and howcan you feel super tense?
Well, I feel my mind racing and thatkind of takes over everything else
and I start fidgeting and I Startlooking at, I might start pacing
Yeah, right.
You're having a physiological responsejust from the idea of a thought.

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Have you ever had one of thoseconversations in your mind where you're
posturing to the other person and then Ishould say to them and your hands tense up
and you get into a bit of a boxer stance.
You're having a fight thatis completely fictitious.
There's overwhelm.
There it is
imagine we have these thoughts beforewe actually go and have a conversation.
The other person doesn't really stand achance, so our beliefs and our thoughts

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and how they present in our mind affecthow we show up, affect the outcomes
that we have because we're projecting.
Have you ever really had a conversationwhere you've not listened, you've just
sort of waited for your turn to speak?
I do that all the time.
Not when I'm coaching but I notice it.
It's a really bad habit.
And so we are so busy with ourown thoughts that we're not
really in the present moment.

(07:01):
So the thing that you can do if youreally want to have the right mindset
to take the right actions to createthose outcomes that you want in your
life is start becoming aware of ofthe nonsense on a loop in your head.
Easy to say but how do youknow that it's happening?
Because you're having somesort of physical response.

(07:22):
You know that you're feeling somesort of negative emotion, right?
If you're feeling negativeemotions, you're being hijacked.
Your brain is in an anxiety loop or astress loop or a threat response group
loop and it's going to go one way.
You're going to get defensiveor angry or whatever.
This is a groove in our mind and the onlyway that you can stop that is go, Oh.

(07:43):
That's interesting.
I've just caught myselfand I've watched myself.
You rewind it and there's a thought there.
That person's out to get me or I'mgoing to get overwhelmed or whatever.
That thought might come in as a visual orit might come in as an auditory, right?
You're more auditory, Chris.
You might have like a voice inyour head going, don't go there,
whatever that is and then we respond.
So you notice that thought, youstep back and you go, interesting.

(08:06):
Where did that thought come from?
Does it serve me?
If it serves me, great.
If it doesn't serve me, you'realready in a witness position.
You're in a space of objectivity.
What's something else I can do?
Because you know how you show upis going to impact the outcome.
So what if I came in and I assumedthe best of intentions or I assumed

(08:27):
that I can explore something andI don't have to go through with it
or we talked about havingthat old stuff it mentality.
Why not, right?
Anybody in that mentality isgoing to show up very different.
That's a growth mentality.
You show up in a certainway with a certain mindset.
You behave differently.
You create different outcomes butit comes back down to watching your

(08:49):
thoughts, noticing the emotional response.
You don't have to behave thatway and every single time you
do like this in hypnotherapy,we call it a pattern interrupt.
Not that this every single timewe do that, we create new neural
pathways in our brain and you cansee them form under a microscope.
It doesn't take long and then thatbecomes the groove that you travel in.
You become less stressed.

(09:09):
You become less anxious.
Try just before you get out of bed inthe morning, just taking a couple of
breaths and feeling the blanket on yourbody and the pillow behind your head
and just taking a couple of deep breathsand going, I feel really grateful today.
Try starting the day off with like apositive mindset, get out of bed the
right side instead of the wrong side.
And when you notice that you're feelingthose levels of anxiety, just take

(09:32):
a moment, take three deep breaths,watch your thoughts because the other
thing is you are not your thoughts.
We all have an inner judge in there.
Utterly horrible, ruthless.
You wouldn't take advicefrom your best friend.
You don't have to listen to yourthoughts and emotions are just
data between your mind and body.
Following that grief.
You can watch them.
You can indulge.
You don't have to.

(09:52):
Absolutely.
And speaking of the mind bodyconnection, there's been new science,
there's new philosophy, there's newideas behind how our body and our mind
interact and our gut work together.
Do you have any information behind that?
Is there credibility to it oris this just a wife's tale?
No, there's definitely, thisis the new frontier of medicine.

(10:14):
So our mind and our bodyare definitely connected.
That's not new.
This is age old wisdom.
You go into Hinduism or Buddhism,it's all connected but in the
West, we're finally catching on.
And so yes, our gut isconsidered our second mind.
And there is deep sciencebehind that loads of loads of
books that you can go and read.

(10:35):
Do you want to hear likea really gory story.
I'm all for it.
Yeah.
Bring it on.
Okay.
So to give you an example of howyour mind and your gut is connected
together, pregnant women aren'tsupposed to be around cat litter.
Do you know why?
I don't know, without Googeling.
Okay, there is a certain virus orthere is a certain bacteria, something

(10:57):
in cat litter that is comes outfrom the intestines of cats and what
it does is it creates some sort ofchange in the brain of mice, right?
Mice eat this stuff and instead ofrunning away from cats, They end
up going, Ooh, look, there's a cat.
Oh, how lovely and itwill go towards the cat.

(11:18):
The cat eats the mouse or the rat orwhatever it is and that's how that
bacteria or that virus is transmittedfrom the gut of one cat to the gut of
another cat which is its natural survival.
So you've got something that goes in andis ingested by this mouse that changes
it's very chemically makeup to makeit change its mind from danger to love.

(11:42):
Maybe we need a bit moreof that in this world.
Absolutely.
Goodness.
If only everyone could just eatcat litter, how much of a better
world this could be, just theaftereffects that would change for us.
Let's do that for all ourpoliticians, in the media.
Brilliant.
Here, have this cookie.
I made it just for them.
Cat poo cookie.
Chocolate chip for all your marketers.

(12:05):
For flavor.
Now, Georgina, where can peoplefind out more about you and
get connected with you online?
So, georginahallaby.
com.
You'll share the link, won't you, Chris?
Absolutely.
I haven't talked so much about what Ido which is sort of the peak performance
coaching and mindfulness courses.
I've got a whole load of stuff onmy blog, free mindfulness courses.

(12:25):
If you're interested, I've got loads offree workshops from imposter syndrome
to time and energy optimization.
And if you are curious about how coachingcan help you, I also have an invite if you
want to have a discovery session with me.
So deep, powerful coaching but Iwould say only do this if you're
really serious because I believe everyconversation can change your life.

(12:47):
And I ask people to honor my time intaking me up on that offer but yeah.
Absolutely.
Yeah, we will have those linksavailable down in the show notes
and the description for everybody.
Georgina, we wanna giveyou at least two minutes.
Take the floor if you want.
Anything else you wanna share withour audience about what you do,
how you help, anything you want.
Oh, okay.
My main message is we allhave everything that we need.

(13:09):
inside us.
The journey that I take my clientson isn't really about creating
new skills or getting them tobe somebody that they're not.
It's really about letting go of all ofthe crap that we load on ourselves, all of
these beliefs that stop us being curiousand playful that make us self conscious.
So to me, it's the process of lettinggo and going inwards and trusting and I

(13:32):
started meditating from the age of 16.
I thought, ah, Let's give it a go.
Let's try it out.
And for me, I've had all of theanswers inside every single time I go.
So meditation is incredibly powerful.
You just get people started.
They find their own answers but noteverybody wants to meditate with me.
So I also work with a lot ofhyper rational, very sort of
hyper achieving business people inwhich case I sort of use the tools

(13:56):
that they need to sort of help.
Slow down their mind enough thatthey could be objective and go,
what would really be helpful here?
How am I getting in my own way?
How am I becoming a bottleneck?
How can I communicate morebetter, more effectively?
And basically you're taking awaythe edge of fear and helping
them lean into resistance andalso be a lot more strategic with

(14:16):
their time, energy, and focus.
There's so much that Ilove about what I do.
But the biggest myth, twobiggest myths I want to debunk.
One is you don't need anybody out there.
You've got everythingthat you need inside.
And the second thing is, you canhave peak performance and well being.
Don't ask if, ask howand then work on that.

(14:38):
I think, better than having all theanswers, It's amazing to ask the right
questions and that's what coaching offers.
Absolutely, Georgina.
Very well said.
We appreciate it.
And just a message from our sponsors.
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Georgina, so excited and appreciateyou sharing your time with us today.

(15:00):
Thank you so much.
Congratulations on everything you're doingand look forward to your future success.
Thanks, Chris.
And good luck, all of you.
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