Episode #6: RHOBH Sutton vs. Dorit, Crystal Minkoff Rumors, JuicyScoop Pod Drama & Denise Richards' Iguana Funeral

Welcome back, Addicts! This week's episode of Bravoholics Anonymous kicks off with an emotional (yet hilarious) tribute to Godzilla, the beloved 30-year-old Cuban iguana from Denise Richards' new reality show, Denise Richards & Her Wild Things. If you're not watching yet, trust me—you need this in your life. Denise is TV gold, and her unique brand of chaos and authenticity is exactly what reality TV dreams are made of.

Then we dive into the podcast super bloom sweeping the Bravo universe. Crystal Minkoff and Cynthia Bailey stopped by The Viall Files to promote their podcast, Humblebrag. But Crystal didn't just drop by for fun—she brought receipts, confirming rumors about Dorit Kemsley allegedly skipping payments to her glam squad. Is Crystal stirring up trouble to secure her spot on RHOBH? Or is this a desperate attempt for relevance?

Finally, we're unpacking a juicy new episode of Real Housewives of Beverly Hills. Sutton Stracke continues her unhinged quest for validation—this time from Kyle Richards—while navigating explosive confrontations and personal meltdowns. We also dissect why Kyle might finally be hitting her breaking point, Mauricio sightings with mystery women, and Garcelle Beauvais proving she's still the voice of reason we desperately need. And yes, we have strong feelings about Erika Jayne's latest confessional moments, too.

📌 Topics Covered:

• Farewell tribute to Godzilla, Denise Richards’ reality-TV-famous Cuban iguana from recent episode of Denise Richards & Her Wild Things

• Heather McDonald's Juicy Scoop stirring up podcaster beef? Nick Viall and Dave Neal take different sides on the Blake Lively and Justin Baldoni saga
• What's REALLY going on at law school? After Southern Hospitality this season, I call The Official Bravoholics Anonymous Attorney, Alanna Bondy for the scoop

• Cynthia Bailey & Crystal Minkoff's new podcast, Humblebrag—will it survive or flop? 

• Crystal digs up trouble on Viall Files spreading rumors of Dorit not paying glam squad

• Bravolebrity podcasts taking over—are we here for it?

• Ghost Adventures Co-Ghost Host Aaron was almost murdered! I called my sister to discuss
• Southern Charm Women are not experienced dog walkers
• Summer House boys are still pigs

• Latest RHOBH recap: 

• Sutton vs. Dorit continues.... and newsflash, Sutton thinks she is the victim .... again (RHOBH)

• Erika Jayne (RHOBH) is Housewife of the Week

• Garcelle (RHOBH) needs to take it outside the confessionals

🍸 Join the conversation! Sound off in the comments—Is Crystal playing dirty or just playing smart? Whose side are you on in this Dorit/Sutton drama? And which Housewife isn't pulling their weight?

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Episode Transcript

(00:05):
We gather here
today to honor the life of a Bravo legend.
He wasn't a housewife.
He never threw a drink.
And yet he left an imprint on thisfranchise that will never be forgotten.
Godzilla.
The 30 year old Cubaniguana was more than just a reptile.

(00:25):
He was a pillar of his Bravo community.
A silent observer of the drama.
A beacon of resiliencein a world of chaos.
In a world of snakes, you stage an iguana.
Godzilla.
But alas, even the strongest among us
must one day take their final bow.

(00:45):
Or in Godzilla'scase, their final sun nap.
So today we say goodbye to a true icon.
May he rest in peace.
Forever free from the screamingconfessionals, the over-the-top
dinner parties, and the ever loomingthreat of being turned into a handbag.

(01:07):
Rest easy, Godzilla.
May your next life be in a franchise
that deserves you.
And now let's talk about the real dramathis week,
because Godzillawould have wanted us to move on.
Because our seats.

(01:32):
Hi, everybody.
My name is Lyndsey, and I'm a bravo holic.
You're preaching to the choir. I'm from.
How do you say that?
Welcome back.
Addicts.
My name is Lindsay, and I'm a Bravo holic.
And your host of this show.
If it's your first time listening,we have a lot to cover.

(01:55):
So I think there'll be something in herefor all of you.
And right off the bat,I need to talk about the Godzilla funeral
on Denise Richards new show,Denise Richards and the Wild Things.
And if you aren't watching that show yet,you really need to.
And I'm not just saying that DeniseRichards is a very complex creature,

(02:16):
and she has a really authentic heart,and she has really good intentions
and she's TV gold, her one liners,her family.
The juxtaposition of daughters.
I know I covered it last week,but if you're starting to listen today
and you've seen clips and you're like,
I don't know if it's worth my time,trust me, it's worth your time.

(02:37):
And I'm not just saying thatbecause Godzilla died.
Well, in the news, there's been a superbloom of Bravolebrity podcasts.
And this week, Cynthia Bailey and Krystalfrom Real Housewives of Beverly Hills
both made an appearance on The Viall Filesto promote their new podcast,
which is called humblebrag.

(02:59):
I can't imagine this
show of theirs will last long because,you know, Krystal didn't last long.
She was quite boring,but they appeared on The Viall Files,
and sound bites are being passedaround of Krystal, confirming rumors
that Dorit isn't paying her stylistsor her glam squad.
And I just hate to see Krystal

(03:20):
taking a note out of Sutton'sbook and like, spreading these rumors.
I mean,why use the platform of the Viall Files?
I mean, I get it, okay?
She'susing the platform of the viral files
to talk shit about a housewifethat was on a show with her,
because she probably wantsto be brought back on the show
and even if it is facingfinancial problems
and she isn't paying people,which isn't right,

(03:43):
she should definitely dialit back on the glam and everything
and just do her own makeupbecause I know she can.
She's got great taste.
Just do it yourself.
Which she might be doing now,
but at least historically,there are people popping up
saying they haven't been paid yet,so that really sucks.
I think Dorit could easily get a richboyfriend that could easily sign off
on all these bills.
Sign away PK's apartment drama.

(04:05):
There's also rumors going around of PKnot paying his rent for his apartment and
that he might be kicked out or something,but who knows if this is all true.
I think we learned during the Kyleand Mauricio drama that a lot of people
are going to come out of the woodworkand say a lot of things,
and unless someone's filing a lawsuit,unless someone's pressing charges
or taking someone to small claimscourt or whatever,

(04:26):
and there's something legally documented,I'm not necessarily going to believe it.
So I think this could just be a caseof Krystal and Cynthia
looking to elevate their platformin their new podcast.
But this isn't the only thing that has me
thinking about Nick filethis week in his podcast
I'm thinking of there could bea potential podcast feud brewing up.

(04:47):
So in the last couple of weeks,
Heather McDonald of Juicy Scoophas had Nick Phil on her podcast.
She appeared on his.
And then she had Dave Neil of The RushHour appear on her podcast.
And first, when Nick showed up,he had a lot to say about Justin Baldoni
and Blake Lively's battle.
He's on Blake's side.
He took the stance that Heatherand a lot of the questions

(05:08):
he asked was like,
Heather should prove Justin'sinnocence, versus what evidence does Blake
have that she was sexually assaultedby Justin Baldoni?
And Dave Neil came onand kind of pointed out on that podcast
that there was an outcry of JC Scoopersthat weren't happy with what
Nick was saying on the podcast,because he called out Justin for virtue,

(05:32):
signaling that having a podcastthat talks on behalf of women,
how women should be treated,
and kind of putting himself in a positionof like knowingness
and of being a better person becausehe's done the work and he can speak
on behalf of how to treat women,and that Nick doesn't like that.
Nick also shared that he met Justin andreally didn't get good vibes from the guy.

(05:53):
Didn't like the guy Davethen called him without saying it okay,
but called him a hypocrite and was like,you have a dating podcast
and you basically do the same thingabout dating and giving people advice.
So he just like, you know, we all thinkit's like kind of interesting that
Nick has no problem calling out
Justin for virtue signaling, buthe's kind of like doing the same thing.

(06:17):
Dave Neil also pointed out that there wasa lot of similarities to the Amber Heard
Johnny Depp case, which I was obsessedwith when it came out.
I watched every hour of that trial,and if this goes to trial,
it better be on YouTubeor live stream somewhere
because I'm going to be watching it.
And he said that Amber heardruined her credibility when she lied about
the donation to the ACLU and then, like,went back on her word and was like,

(06:39):
oh, well, I intendedI made a commitment to donate.
I didn't do it yet,but I made a commitment to do it.
So he said that once you lie in courtin front of the jury one
time, like it's believablethat you could be lying more.
And that was kind of likethe nail in the coffin for her.
And he's saying that Blake'salready doing that by saying
that the, birth videothat Justin showed her was corn.

(07:02):
I kind of agree.
I mean, at least right now
it's just the court of public opinion,and it's not a jury thing.
They could go to court next year.
I think it's like March 26th.They're talking about doing it.
Another thing that Dave pointed out,I thought was really interesting
in this conversationis that the New York Times
article that was publishedthat had text messages in it,
one of the shared textmessages was from Justin Baldwin,

(07:23):
his public relationsteam, and Nick referenced it
and was like, they're admitting guiltin this text message.
And Dave was like, hold on.
There was an emoji left out,an emoji at the end of that sentence
that gave all the contextto those words in the text message
that was left
out of the New York Times article,and it was an upside down smiley face,

(07:45):
like a goofy, playful,sarcastic, toned like silly emoji.
So the sentence with that emoji at the endwould mean something entirely different.
And basically, I don't think these guysare really going to go into a feud.
I don't think they're really goingto fight, but I do sense tension,
and if they do go into something,
or if they do debate down the road onJuicy Scoop, which would be a great idea.

(08:07):
Heather hosts the debate, I don't think.
I don't think Nick will do that.I think you'll lose. I think you'll lose.
Dave seems to have a lot of legalknowledge.
Okay.
But, if they ever did it,it would be so good.
It would be so juicy to watch, becausethey both clearly have different stances.
And, you know, Dave, they took some jabs.
He took some jabs at Nick's argumentin Nick's appearance.
And I think it'd be really juicyto watch that all go down

(08:31):
if these guys start a feudwith each other,
if they start giving it a little bitmore of a back and forth.
You heard it here first.
I called the feud.
I think it would be great.
I think it'd be better for Dave,
obviously,because I've never heard of his podcast,
and I think Nick has got
one of the biggest ones out right now,at least in this space.
But I also think that

(08:53):
it could be a fun check, and it could be
something fresh for the Viall Files,because it's getting a little old
and there's kind of waytoo many people on that show.
I don't know who half of these kids are,and I don't mean that condescendingly,
but like, there's just too many young GenZ voices in that room,
and it's really confusing.
And I know Nick's wife, Natalie has becomelike an even bigger part of the show

(09:16):
and a bigger voice,and is almost taking the lead
in some of these interviews,which I think is interesting.
I don't know where any of these showsare planning on going down the road,
but there's just too many voiceson the video files and
I think they should cut back.
And I think
Nick should get in a feud with someone,and they should maybe do like an episode

(09:37):
where they're sparring about the BlakeLively, Justin Baldoni case.
Maybe they go bullet for bullet.
I think Nick might lose, though,because Dave knows his stuff.
Dave came prepared and I think he'sgot some legal stuff in his history.
So, okay, speaking of legal,I have not been able to stop thinking
about southern hospitality,which is by far

(09:58):
one of the biggest breakoutshows of the year.
I think for Bravo, everyone is pissedthey didn't get a real reunion.
Emmy and Will went on The Viall Filesand flipped the script on what I
my take on the whole thing was at firsthe was like public enemy number one.
And now there's like Public Enemy numberfour with,

(10:19):
you know, TJ, Brad and Wil, and everybody.
It's just it's a big mess.
But the show brought itthis season and I can't stop
thinking about the law balland the supposed bullets school.
And I just need to get the legal t.

(10:51):
When bravolebrity
are accused of crimes,they may be definitely committed.
When the FBI shows up mid cocktail party.
When a housewife calls her P.I.
between glam and carpool,

(11:12):
there's one womanwe trust to break it all down.
She survived law school
so we could survive seasonfive and Salt Lake City.
She is our legal compass in scenesubpoenas.
Please welcome the official attorneyof Bravo, Alex.
Anonymous
Elena Bondi.

(11:36):
Please know that her attorney is on lunchbreak.
Elena. Hi.
It's not me.
Answer you. It's okay. It'sall right, everyone.
It's like. No, we call you.
You don't call us.
Okay.
We need legal advice.
On the podcast today for Bravo Hollyoaksanonymous.

(11:57):
We need to know what law school is like
because we're talkingabout the southern hospitality reunion.
And there's this guy on the podcastthat, like, got really wasted and ran up
and down Main Street in Charleston
and like, said horrible thingsabout his girlfriend that like she's ugly
and he's not attracted to her nowand she's boring
and she doesn't drink anymoreand all this stuff.

(12:18):
And, to all of her friendsand a bunch of people.
And then,
he allegedly cheatedon her with a brunet girl in the bathroom.
And so the girlfriend who had to come outby herself at the finale
and he hid backstagethe is like talking about how, well,
and she said this on the show

(12:38):
before the finale to how there's this guythat has it out for him at law school,
and it's like starting rumorsabout him, too, and trying to like,
you know, like besmirch his character,
and no one believes it.
So I need to know what law school is like.
Is in law prom.
Tell us about that.
Okay.

(12:59):
Russell can kind of be catty like that.
I wouldn't say,
I've seen anyone, like,go out of their way to try to research
someone's character.
Especially completelyunrelated to school or law, but
I suppose in theory, it could happen.
I've heard in other schoolswhere it's more like my school is like,
once you're in, you're in,and you basically just have to like,

(13:24):
make sure you don't like, fill out.
But there are certain law schoolsthat let him too many people
and they have to fill out essentiallylike a certain number of people.
By the end the first year. And
so I don't know what his school was like,but those ones are really cutthroat.
So people can get like, really crazy,especially in the first year.
And I've heard of people like cuttingsomebody else's, like, laptop cord.

(13:46):
So they, like, couldn'tfinish their exam or like,
yeah, I'm like, okay.
Yeah, I've heard of, like,really crazy things, like trying to, like,
steal their books.
So they like, study
and yeah, so people can get really psycho,especially in those schools.
But I think in general,every law school is very,
it's kind of like summer camp,but for three years.

(14:09):
And so everyone's like way too closeto each other and spends
for how much time with each otherand everybody sleeps with each other.
Is X.
There's like lots of groupprojects or something.
You just spend like all your time eitherat school, studying,
and then you just become like you'realways with the same people on
the same people are in all your classes.
Yeah.
So like in my school we had two sections.

(14:32):
And so you did your classeswith like the same set of people.
And then there was like the other
half the cost of their classeswith the other half of the people.
And then by secondary,you like, kind of mix it up,
but it's still like a pretty small group,like my class was like a hundred people.
So, and I spent, like, all of my timeonly with those people.
So. Yeah, like, everyone dates each other,everyone breaks up,

(14:54):
it gets really dramatic.
It's a super common tropethat anyone that comes into law school
with a girlfriendwill have broken up with them
by barristers ball,which is also a problem.
Oh my God.
So the barristersball, the law from every,
every law school calls it barristers ballI think so okay.

(15:15):
Yeah.
So yeah, that is law school prom.
But yeah, anyone who's coming to,
unlessthey're, like, married is probably going
to cheat on their a friend or boyfriendin the first year and break up, so.
Oh my God,because of the intimacy of the group.
Yeah.
Oh my god. Okay.
Well, this is really insightful.

(15:35):
I'm surprised that people are cuttingpeople's laptop cords.
Like, honestly, that is kind of extremeand kind of shocking.
Yeah, people,it doesn't happen in my school.
But I did hear,
one of the girlsthat transferred to our school
after told me that that happened in herold school.
That's why old.
Okay, well, maybe,I mean, then maybe there is a dude
that has it out for this guy.

(15:56):
Well, who knows, it could be.
I mean, it would be.
I don't really understandwhat he's trying to gain from that.
He's trying to.
He's trying to deny the affair.
He's trying to deny that he cheatedon his girlfriend with this brunet girl
who who he admitsstayed at his place for a couple days.
But he was supposed to be out of townor something.
So I question what the other guywho's supposedly making up a rumor

(16:18):
would have to gain from that rumor.
Because, like thingsI've seen, it's like it would get you
ahead in law school or like,
I don't
know, but you ranking above somebody orget you, like, a job you want to take out.
But, like, I know it's all I get.
I mean, this is all speculationand it honestly feels
a little legally blond, like,so it could be completely fictitious.
And they made it up for like, the show.

(16:39):
But I also think that like, Willis kind of a weaselly guy,
and he I could see him like,
thinking he's better than peopleand talking
a certain way to people, like talking downto people in a certain way.
And it likemaybe it patronized this other guy
and he's like, okay, so if you're going toif you think you're better than me,

(17:03):
I'm just going to like,put all your shit on blast, I don't know.
So speculation at this point,
even if the guy's jealousthat this guy's on a TV show,
you think you're better than usand you're on a stupid reality show.
Like, I could see guys doing that.
Yeah, I could, I guess he was one.
So this was two years above me.
2 or 3 years?
No, it must have been three years,because I was. I was in school.

(17:23):
Yeah, I there was one guy who supposedlyat finals like he was mad
at like the rest of the studentsbecause I guess he like,
didn't like him.
They kind of made fun of him.
And so he tried to sue all of themfor defamation,
in his last year during finals.
It's kind of like art.
It's kind of like LA art.

(17:47):
It's kind of it'skind of can get really crazy.
But he.
That's really funny.
Okay, well, this is good.
Thanks for letting me call youon your lunch hour.
Thank you.
And thanks for telling to us about lawschool.
We'll have to have you back on the showsoon. All right? Okay. Bye.

(18:12):
Bye. Hope,
if you are watching Southern Charmthis season, you are starting
to see the cracks in Paigeand Craig's relationship.
Like I am. And,
we knew it was coming, but
I just didn't know how we would see it.
And I'm dying.

(18:32):
I sent this message to my friend Megan.
I was like, when Paige said,just so you know,
if I ever have to get up in the middleof the night and flee with the kids,
and then Craig said, you'll be finebecause you make your own money.
And then he pours himselfsome orange juice and just looks at her.
And that look, that dialog between them,

(18:55):
that was some dark stuff.
That was some dark stuff.
That was some dark stuff.
I just
I don't know what else we're going to see,and I don't know if I can handle it.
I don't know if I can handle it.
So I wonder how you guys are feelingabout it.
For the past few years, Paigehas really been making Craig look awesome,

(19:17):
and now I think we're about to see Craignever changed.
He just she just polished a turd,you know?
And he hasn't really done any of the work.
And I really think that he's tryingto steal her sparkle.
And I just think
that there are these toxic men out therethat want to steal women's sparkle.
And I heard that on Gigli squad,this week.

(19:38):
She kind of, like, broke it all downand talked a lot more about it.
Or maybe.
Oh no, it was the first summer houseafter show.
I don't know one of these two thingsI need to dig into it.
I need to go check it out and I'll reportmore on it next week in Bravo.
Horlicks! Anonymous.
When I get like the full downloadof what's going on and what she's saying
because I think we care about it,I think it matters.

(19:59):
While we're
still on the topic of Southern Charm,I was watching this week's episode,
and as a professional dog mom,I have to say that Molly and Taylor
getting like a latte and ice cream,a pop cup and trying to walk a dog
who thought that was a good idea
and it makes me feel likethey never walk their dog.
Because maybe you can walk a dogwith a latte.

(20:19):
Maybe. I have two dogs, Archie.
One that's you can see in my little coverimage there.
And another dog.
His name is Burton, and walkingtwo dogs with a latte is hard,
so I don't know whythey thought like, latte ice cream.
And then why is Taylor giving her dogice cream?
People really feed their dogs.
That's just fat and sugar.That's not good for the dog.
Don't give your Frenchie ice cream.

(20:41):
It's not going to go well for you.
You're going to have diarrhea later.
I maybe was being a bit shadywhen I was like,
are they trying to capitalizeon the production budget for this scene?
Like, are these two girlies?
Are Molly and Taylornot getting paid enough this season?
So they like want to get one of everythingat the ice cream coffee shop.

(21:02):
You know, like making a meal.
Make a meal of the day.
Because they don't make enough money.
I don't know, it was weird.
Okay, so the JT and the vanilla of it all,
I was really into itat the beginning of the season.
I thought it was cute.
I thought,
like they were painting this picture ofshe's the only one that really gets him.

(21:24):
He keeps getting set up
and framed and called out for thingshe didn't necessarily do.
He's kind of got a little dweeb energy,you know?
The guys are giving him a hard timelike Shep gave Austin a really hard time
when he started,and JT doesn't handle it well.
He walks away from it,probably because he doesn't need the show.
But this whole thing with Vernitaand JT, the receipt

(21:47):
for the jacket, you know,she's on the after show, implying that
she bought him a $5,000 jacket and like,how would his girlfriend feel if she knew?
And then he's releasing the receiptthat like,
he paid her back the same daybecause he didn't have his wallet on him.
And then we see in the episode this week,there's a phone call because this
Ryan guy at the barbershop,her supposedly allegedly overheard

(22:09):
that JT called Vernita some black girland then JT denied it, and him and Levi
called his barber to confirm thathe never said anything like that on camera
they call Vernita.
Vernita is just like smilingGaga land doing the scene.
And here's the hot takeI actually have is that
I don't think Vernita is interestingenough.

(22:29):
She's not speaking her mind on
camera unless it's like an after scenethat I feel like
is set up to explain somethingthat's going on in this art.
I feel like liver comes in and does sceneswith like a tailor or a vernita,
because she has to help prompt them
into saying certain thingsfor these, like reshoots scenes.

(22:50):
And I'm not sure I, you know,we aren't positive about what's a setup
and what's not a setupwhen it comes to making these shows,
but I just have this suspicionbecause it's not Taylor
or Vernita his natural positionto make good television.
They kind of sit back and don't sayanything or they're closed off.
I'm actually kind of shocked. Taylorstill on the show.
I think now Shep is looking out for herand Shep feels really guilty.

(23:14):
And so Shep is like getting his buddyWhitney to keep her involved.
But as soon as Shep moves onand a couple months goes down
and it's not like a Sierra situation,like the girl is actually into him
and like living at his house all the time.
I'm sure then we won't seeTaylor on the show anymore.
And I do think southern hospitalitymight be a better place for her

(23:35):
because she is hanging out with TJ andshe's hanging out with these other people.
And honestly, maybe bringing Tayloron the southern hospitality
will give some storyline for TJ in seasonthree, because we all know that TJ likes
to play on the offense and likes to comeat other people in their relationships,
versus letting the cameraand the world explore his own.

(24:09):
Okay, next I need to call my sisterbecause I'm sure
we've all heard about Aaron from GhostAdventures wife trying to kill him,
but my sister and I love to watchGhost Adventures together,
and this is really big news.
So let's give her a calland let's get her take on it.

(24:29):
Hello, Natalie.
I'm calling you because we need to talkabout Aaron's wife trying to kill him.
The ghost adventure guy.
I don't know,I don't really know the story, but
I just know that it's crazy.
It's really crazy.
Okay, so I know a little bit about it.
Basically,one of the co-hosts of Ghost Adventures,

(24:51):
not the Zach Baggins,your future boyfriend, but,
Aaron, like this guyAaron, who's basically his right hand
and will do anythingthat Zach tells him to do if he's like,
Aaron, crawl in this crawlspacelike Aaron will do it.
Aaron will do anything for Zach.
He's obsessed with them, which is thewhich is like the best part about Aaron.
He's just so endearing.
He's such a goofy nerd.

(25:13):
He's and he'slike, obsessed with Zach and,
his wife,
like, I guess, reached out to some guyin prison in Florida
and on a burner phonewas trying to arrange, like, his murder.
And Aaron was, like, sleeping in a hotel.
And she's texting this guy like, hey,I wired you the deposit.
Is it done yet? He's sleeping in a hotel.

(25:34):
Is it done yet?
And then they, like, took the guy's phoneand then it all got reported.
And now she's being heldfor a very expensive bail.
I think it's like $100,000 bail.
And he's not going to bail out,so she's stuck there.
I think texting someone in jailwho can't have a phone
anyways about this, knowing that like,that's just dumb.

(25:55):
I know, it's like it's like the movie
Horrible Bosses or something, you know,like she didn't know how to get a hitman.
How I just you.
I have there was a deposit of like $2,500,
but like all in, the guy was going to get,like just over $11,000.
That's it.
Yeah. Hits are cheap, I guess.
I don't know, like.

(26:17):
Well, my
thing is, like, my thing is, like,this guy's traveling all the time.
They're filming these, like,little docu series year round.
How much more free timedoes she need from him?
Or did she just want, like, all his money?
Like, I'm just so curious.
No, I don't know.
Want to know this? We need to know.

(26:37):
We need to understand.
I think she's probably beencounting on him.
Like freezing in this business of theseabandoned houses by now and dying already.
And he probably just hasn't.
Yeah, she's really sick of him.
Imagine having that crew walk aroundyour house when they're not filming.
They would be so annoying.
It'd be so funny.

(26:58):
And they they're literally,like, low keys, so rich.
It's there on like, season 26 or somethingof that show, and it's like on A&E.
And we know that the likethe duck Hunter guys
and like all those hit like docu seriesor is it discovery they're on.
They basically carrythe Discovery Channel.
They make good money.
All the people, everybody just wantsgoes to ventures and they do.

(27:22):
They live in Nevadaor do they live in Florida?
I know Zach has a house in Vegas.
I feel like Aaron must live in Florida.
Or why would she be findinga hit man in Florida?
She seems like
if you're calling shit on anyone,I feel like that's a Florida thing to do.
Alzheimer's. I
know some Florida people.

(27:43):
You're right.Okay, fine. Okay. That's good.
Well, I can't wait to see what happens.
And I'm happy that nowAaron and Zach are on the market together.
Both bachelors on the town.
Okay, so you get Aaron and I get Zach.
Oh, my God,I don't think I want to date Aaron.
It's not about him.
This is.
I want what we get in return.

(28:04):
I'll entertainment and their money.
I'll wingman for youfor like six months for the story.
And then I have.
Then I have to move onbecause I just think Aaron and this like,
ADHD thing that he is going onis not going to mesh well with mine.
Right? It would be a disaster.
But I really wish you and Zach the best.
Zach.
He knows too many women after him.

(28:26):
The competition's getting too intense.
That's okay.
Do you really careif he has a couple girlfriends?
No, I'd actually prefer that.
See? Exactly, exactly.
It's perfect.
Okay, well, don't touch me.
Go, go stand in this. Yeah.
Stacy's tonight.
Yeah, I have a headache. Call Stacy.

(28:49):
Perfect.
I'm tired.
I'm sorry.
I have to go watch the ghosts downstairs.
I have to make sure they don'tget into trouble.
What's the little doll's namethat he has in the museum?
The Sally doll.
I think it's, like, exceptionally good.
She kept me up all night. I.
Okay, great.
Well. That's it. That's the only reasonI called. I'll talk to you later.

(29:11):
Okay.
Well, your mission is to go find outwhy she wanted to kill him, okay.
Or any. And.
And maybe I'll write her a letter in jail.
She probably woke up.
She likes to.
She likes to correspond with people.
Yeah, that's. Yeah.
Yeah, yeah.
Okay, great. Well, I'll get down to it.
Whenever any.
I'm sure she's going to keep herlips sealed until the court case,

(29:33):
but I can't wait. Okay. Bye bye.
Next.
Moving on to Summer House.
I'm not going to go bullet by bulletabout what's going on in summer house,

(29:55):
because pretty much it's all just likeJesse looks like a huge ski's.
Little MissLexi is super triggered by all the boobs
and her boobs not being big enoughlike everyone else's boobs.
And watch if she comes back next season.
I bet you know, we'll actuallythey get most of their money
by like the season three agreement,but maybe that's changed.
Now it's season two
and if she doesn't get a boob job,I'm just going to feel bad for her.

(30:18):
She's got some insecurity stuffshe's dealing with and that really sucks.
But Jessi sucks, and she should'veanticipated something bad happening
by jumping into somethingso quickly with that tall buffoon.
But I also just, like,really want Amanda to dump Kyle.
I know that they're married,so it's not really dumping.
It's like divorce,but just like I'm just over Kyle.

(30:40):
I'm over Kyle, and,like, the deejaying of it all.
And, like, now he's doing a DJ series.
He's goingto, like, six locations or something.
Everyone's talking about it.
He's calling it like Sundayturn up or Sunday scary
or I don't know what he's calling it.He's calling it something.
But I'm just like over Kylenot taking accountability.

(31:01):
And with this whole page thing,like the fact that he hasn't yet
learned to like,listen to someone who's upset with him
and try to find a little bitof their perspective
and like, take a form of accountabilityhere is beyond me.
I can't believe thathe doesn't understand why
he shouldn't be raged texting Paige.

(31:22):
And I just can't believewe're still talking about it.
But I think it's annoying.
And so I just really want Amandato dump Kyle.
And just like,I think if Amanda dumped Kyle, then
Hannah, Paige and Amandacould be best friends again.
I think everyone would rally aroundAmanda.
It would be like a new, fresh tensionin the house.
She could be out on the scene again.

(31:43):
The girls would be all single and partying
and it would, like bring the life backinto summer house because like the bed
rot and all the bed rot addsI just saw a kind bar
bed rot ad with Amanda and Sierra,and I'm just over it like no one.
I'm not into bed rotting, okay?
I'm an active person.
Maybe one day we're bed rotting,but it's not a whole lifestyle

(32:04):
and it's not something we're like,it's not going to sell kind bars.
Okay, so Amanda just dumped Kyle.
And also, I hope you guys listening.
Aren'tthese women that are on TikTok right now
going, we're still being so mean to worst.
Like he's not as bad as Kyle.

(32:24):
And here's my thing.
Just because one guy is a piece of trashdoesn't mean another guy
can't be a piece of trash.
West is just playing his little good boyact, and it's been like 4 or 5 episodes.
Okay, let's not like he's an angel
all through the week and he's deprivedand everyone's being so mean to him.
Sierra doesn't need to be nice to Westjust because they live in the same house.

(32:47):
They're exes.
Okay, even if West didn't want to call it
a relationship, he basically playedrelationship with Sierra.
And just because Kyle yells at womenand isn't a good person
doesn't mean that West is a good person.
Because he's not yelling at women.
He's the opposite.
He's completely retracting.
And I think that, like the peoplethat see it have been in relationships

(33:10):
with avoidant attachment,
people that have just completelyabandoned them all the time.
And that's why they're triggeredand they get it.
And the ones that have it are like,oh my God, but why are we being so mean
to him? Still? It's irritating.
And the fact that Jesse is like all overSierra, the one weekend
that Lexie isn't there just shows uswhat a boob he is.

(33:33):
He's trying to stir updrama, he's trying to start trouble.
And whether a producer's like telling himto do it or not doesn't matter.
The fact is that he's like tryingto make Lexie feel even more insecure,
because he knows that this stuffis going to get back around to her.
Sierraor one of the girls is going to be like,
yeah,he's like flopping on Sierra in the pool.

(33:54):
You think like he's going to respondpositively to that.
And guess what?
Like a guy who is a good personisn't going to make you feel that way
if he really values you.
So like Lexie just needs to steer clear.
But I just think that
she might get too triggered and she mightnot develop her own self on the show,
and she might nowbe just like a one hit wonder.

(34:15):
Kind of like Bailey one episode wonder.
Do maybe not be to be done.
But for me to still be
national news.
Real Housewives of Salt Lake CityBrittany is on cameo like everybody else,
and there is a manthat's paying her to fake faint

(34:38):
so you can look it upand see that it's weird.
But I guess, you know,if you're buying a cameo,
you can request anything like this.
And it's just hilariousthat he's making her fake saint,
in these videos.
So that's cool.
Check it out.
Coming up, April 12th,we have a new season

(34:59):
of The Valley starting,and I've decided next week's episode.
I'm actually going to do a deep diveof the first season of The Valley,
give my thoughts on all the characters,
give some predictions about what I thinkis going to happen in the new season.
We know Kristen Doherty is pregnant.
We know that she is engaged.

(35:20):
It's going to be Kristen at the helm.
And then we're going to haveall of the friends
thrown to the wayside with eithera newborn baby or a newborn divorce.
So there's lots to talk about.
There's lots to cover in the first season,and there's lots of toxicity from Jax,
so nothing new there but a great show.

(35:42):
And it was a great first season.
So I'm going to be coveringthat next week on the show.
Just doing a deep dive on that.
Wait wait wait.
Start that over again.
What? Is
I just open Instagram. It's dark.
Pagans is in L.A.
and you should go find him.Why is he always.

(36:02):
What is he doing in L.A.
this time?
I don't know, but he posted a story.
His eyes and it's ice creamand his party girls.
And I'm working.
So that means you have to go and find him.
That's really last time he was in L.A.,he was getting ice cream, and he posted
some fans.
Knows what he likes.
He's a big ice cream guy. Now.
Now you knowwhat? Your first date has to be, okay.

(36:25):
Ice cream.
Easy.
He'd be like, hey, you know,I really love ice cream.
And he'd be like, oh my God,I love ice cream to ice cream and go.
I've recently rediscoveringwhat it's like.
Rainbow sprinkles are really good.
I know I love rainbow sprinkles,
I am, I just found a cookie recipe
I and I just had it on ice cream recentlyand it was the best thing ever.

(36:48):
No rainbow sprinkles rule.
They're good on donuts.
They're good on cookies.They're good on cupcakes.
I love a cupcakethat is dipped in like a bunch of rainbow
sprinkles, so the whole thing is coveredin rainbow sprinkles.
Oh, that sounds incredible.I know we should get this weekend.
We should go get sprinklescupcakes with sprinkles on them.
I've actually never had a sprinkle cupcakeor a mask

(37:10):
because of the machinesdo machines are stupid.
We go to the window.
Yeah, we'll just go to the windowand order fresh ones.
Or we can make our own cupcakes.
The sprinkles. I like that.
Just prefer ice cream.
Ice cream with sprinkles.
Oh, see, you're perfect for Zach.
You want the ice cream cone?

(37:31):
Angelo's fucking working.
And he's eating sprinkles right now.
Just tell them your dog threw upand you have to go and go.
Go find the sprinkles at the grove.
Why is he near the grove?
Everyone's going to see himand, like, flock him.
Maybe that's what he wants.
It's probably what he wants.
Men like, he's like,my bestie almost got killed.

(37:52):
And I want to talk to strangers about it.And I want to.
I want a photo op with the ice
cream conference sceneto catch me with my ice cream.
Okay, well,I've got to go back to podcasting.
Yeah. Bye.
Okay.
Sorry.
She just called me when I was aboutto jump into our next segment.

(38:13):
Okay.
Next,I want to talk about trader's casting.
I have really been putting my thoughtstowards my ideal traders cast.
A lot of people have been sharing theirson TikTok, and I just think I know better.
And I'm not going to give usan entire cast because I'm not great with
who the survivor people are.
But I do have some people that I need

(38:34):
their hats thrown in the ringfor the next season of traders.
So first off, from the gamer standpoint,Big Brother alumni Frankie Grande
aka Ariana Grande, his super flamboyantlygay brother.
He is a competition beast
and he is vocal
and smart and he's got great social game.

(38:56):
Because he plays that gay card, he'snot afraid to do it,
and he's just he's awesome.
So I think Frankie Grandeshould definitely be
on the next season of traitors.
I know a lot of people are likeTom Schwartz or you know what?
You know, Jax or whoever.
I'm sure all the Vanderpump Bearsare fighting to be Sheena.
Oh my god.
Sheena's probably emailing

(39:17):
the showrunners of traitors every weeknow that she got her, like, undercover
singer appearance in the bagand I bet traitors is next on her list.
However, the Vanderpump personthat needs to be
on traitorsin my, in my opinion, is Stassi Schroeder.
Stassi is a huge horror murder fan.

(39:38):
She is evil.
She's known for being a villainand a hero.
She was canceled and reborn.
She's got a massive following.
She's a New York Times bestseller, andshe's not afraid to tell it like it is.
She is making an appearance
or she's on the whole season,I guess, of the new Vanderpump
Villa on Hulu this year.
So I'm going to have to tune in to thatbecause her and beau are on it.

(40:00):
As Lisa's eyes and ears in the villa.
Probably so.
So Lisa can just stay in LAand like zoom call Stassi.
But I think it's going to be great to seeher back in the mix on a reality show.
And if she likes a short term windowlike Vanderpump
Villa has for filming,then she would love traitors.
And I think she would liketo turn a look on traitors.
So Stassi is my pick from Vanderpumpto be on the next season.

(40:22):
Another hard request
for me, which probably will never happen.
This one's an impossibletask. Bernie Sanders.
How much fun would it beto see Bernie Sanders on traitors?
I don't think he'll do it,but I would like to see Bernie Sanders.
Other Bravo celebrities.
I love a Sonja Morgan.
I love a Kandi Burruss.
I think there's lots of otherBravo housewives

(40:46):
that would do great at it, but I justmy representational choice is Stassi.
I also really want to see Spencer Pratt.
I think Spencer Prattwould be good on that show,
and he'd bringwhat needs to be brought in.
My sister actually suggested this one,and I think it's really good.
We need twins.
We need a twin twist of some kind, andI think the Sprouse twins would be great.

(41:07):
Let's have Cole and Dylancome on to traitors
and have them belike the Disney heartthrobs of the season.
They don't have much going on, right?
Like, what are they doing?
Be on traitors, Sprouse twins.
I do think Nick Villa has been tryingto get on.
He's been talking a lot about it.I think he'd be good at it.
I think he would probably be eliminated
pretty quicklybecause not everyone would love him.

(41:30):
But I think it'd be great to see himon there trying to play the game
a little bit.
Another hard ask that'llprobably never happen is Howard Stern.
I think Howard Sternwould be another really good pick
because he's an older dudeand he loves reality TV.
He's always watching and talkingabout The Bachelor, he and Hewitt.
He asks good questions,so to have him be a faithful at the table,

(41:51):
trying to interrogate or asksomeone great questions would be awesome.
He might just be too old to do itor want to do it.
Nick Cannon would be great.I'd love to see Nick cannon on it.
I would love to see Shaq.
Okay everyone loves Shaqand Shaq's a smart guy.
He does not only does likeanalysis of sports, which is whatever.
He's funny, he's done movies andhe is a investor in a number of startups.

(42:13):
He loves tech.
He's just he's met a lot of people,
and I think he has a lot of skillshe could bring to the table, both socially
and, you know, from a faithful standpoint,I'd have him be a faithful.
But I think people would really like Shaq,Kris Jenner or Kim Kardashian.
I think both of themwould prefer Kim to be on it.
But I thinkChris might be more interesting.

(42:35):
I think Kris Jenner is can be a little bitof a pushover with her daughters.
But she, you know, like herdaughters loves a black man.
And I think that she could be, like,
kind of workingwith, like, Shaq or Nick cannon
if they were trying
to, like, figure it out, like,maybe they would have an alliance.
I also think Kris Jenner is like a reallysmart person and she's an older woman.

(42:58):
So again, we'll have some more diversityon the show, in that standpoint.
But, Kim, of course, went to law school,and she loves an appearance on anything.
So I'm sure Kim would want to show onand wear.
What's the brand she's always wearingclothes for that had the,
the pedophilia stuff come out recently.
Is it Balenciaga? Yeah.

(43:19):
She'd probably love to wearsome Balenciaga on traders.
Okay.
A big name, someone we haven't seenin a long time doing anything.
And that would be comedic relief andan ally for Kris Jenner or Kim Kardashian.
Jennifer Lawrence,you guys, Jennifer Lawrence.
I know she's a major star
and like, traitors,hasn't gotten a major star like this yet.

(43:41):
But I also think that the last season wassuch a big deal, had such a social impact
that we could seea really big star on Traitors season four.
Its only two week commitment in Scotland.
Even if they made itan extra, episodes were greenlit
and they did three weeksor something like that.
It's not that big of a commitment.
It could really diversify.
It could put her in a fresh light.

(44:03):
Jennifer loves talking about reality TV.
She loves Bravo.
She's appeared on WatchWhat Happens a number of times.
I think Jennifer Lawrencewould be so much fun to watch on the show.
There are so many drag queensthat I would love to see,
like a Coco Montresor and Alyssa Edwards,but also, of course, Trixie Mattel.
Trixie Mattel is a household nameat this point.

(44:23):
She is a big get.
But again, season fouris going to be bigger than season three.
They're going to have a bigger budgetand it got tons and tons of attention.
Everyone was really into it.
So I think that Trixie Mattel would begreat, of course, and Alyssa Coco, though
rivalry would be really fun to rehashif they had both drag queens on the show.
That was one of my favorite like feuds.

(44:46):
Season five of RuPaul's Drag Race.
Between those two, it just like hilarious.
This one I saw on a lot of TikTokswhen I was scrolling, and I kind of loved
it. And it's Ronald from Jury duty,but make him a traitor.
I thought that was genius.
He's so innocent and so sweet.
And it's
I know he probably will never get the gig,but it would also be really funny.

(45:08):
It kind of give like Burgi from LoveIsland vibes like, you pity him so much
you're rooting for him.
So it'd be fun to see Ronaldfrom Jury Duty be a traitor.
This one credit goes out to my sisterbecause when she said it,
I was like, genius,I wish I thought of it first.
Danny Trejo Danny Trejo on Traitorswould be hilarious and awesome.

(45:28):
I think he'd do it.
He does all sorts of stuff.
Here's another one I had that
I really loved Jeff Probst from survivor,the host of survivor.
You guys, let's have the host
of Survivor on Traitorsand let's let him play the game.
I think Jeff observing survivor playersfor so many years
and interviewing them for so manyyears, would have such a fresh,

(45:49):
fun take on playing traitors.
I would love to see him in the mix.
I think it'd be great.
Okay, here's another really big name,another really big celebrity name
that you guys are gonna rollyour eyes and be like, there's
no way this guy would ever be on TraitorsSeason four.
But I'm telling you, he's doneweirder stuff.

(46:09):
And it's Will Ferrell.
I think Will Ferrell should be on traitorseason four.
I think he'd be so likable, so funny.
It would be impossibleto think he's a traitor.
And he should be a traitor.That'd be so wicked.
I think that Will Ferrell is a great pick,and he should definitely try
to be on the show. Two weeks of work.

(46:31):
His improv skills would deliveramazing one liners.
It would just be what we need.
So someone tell Will Leslie Jones, okay,
I think Leslie Joneswould be awesome on traitors too.
I think she's intenseand she'd be a great faithful.
I think she's smart,she's articulate, and she's so funny.
Come on, this is the list.

(46:51):
Not the best.
Like, I literally think all of thesepeople would be so good on the show.
Okay, next, another Disney heartbecause I'm sure
the Sprouse brothers aren't goingto actually take me up on the invite.
Vanessa Hudgens she had her baby.
She's been with it for a year or so now.
Like, let's get her out of the house.
Let's send her to Scotland for two weeks.
Letter.
Adopt the headband that Britney,

(47:14):
that povertythat the girls wore in previous seasons.
Vanessa Hudgens my choice for the headbandwearer of season four.
Her red carpet commentarywould be also really great on the show.
She could, you know, dabble into the looksa little bit more kind of be in the room
and ask people about like their outfitsand what inspired them.
Peacock.
That could be like extra contentthat you could be releasing on socials,

(47:36):
or that could help plugthe brands that you're partnering
with, or your wardrobe departmentis partnering with.
Come on, Vanessa Hudgens is a good choice.
And then every everyone.
I think we can all agree that MacaulayCulkin would be a really great pick.
He's not doing anythingexcept being Brenda Song's husband.
So I think Macaulay Culkin,after his brother won
the Oscar, would be a wild personto have in the house.

(47:59):
I don't think he would
necessarily be able to contribute a ton,but I think his presence alone
and his scattered ness alonewould be giving like Carolyne vibes.
And it could be like really funto add into,
like the dynamic of what'sgoing on on traitor season four.
And so I'm sureI'm going to have more picks.
I'm sure, I'm sure there'sa million people I left out, but these are

(48:20):
just some of the fun ones I had thatI think should be on the show.
They're wild takes, but like I said,season four is going to be bigger
and better than ever.
And I agree with my past guest,Thomas Norman, who came on the show
and said traitors should not tell uswho the traders are.
I think it would createso much more of a buzz around the show
if we didn't know who the traders were,and we were guessing along the way.

(48:42):
And those are my picksand my suggestions for traders, for.
Five okay,
I think it's time I jump intoReal Housewives of Beverly Hills,
because everyone is a flutter about thismost recent episode.

(49:06):
It was great.
I mean, it was what?
It's this I saw the sceneI'd been waiting for since episode one,
like preview of the season,which is Sutton on trial on the ocean.
And we'll get to it.
But first,I want to say that Garcelle and Kyle,
both wearing the same ugly whitedress, was so much fun.
I loved that Garcelle had fun with itand did a little catwalk.

(49:28):
It's an ugly dress.
They both chose it.
It's hilarious and I really love itwhen they do theme to dress.
So if they're all doing whites for dinner,it just makes the fights more esthetic.
Kyle asked the waiter, Ericson,to hold the mashed potatoes
because she wants to take their strapsand I'm like, yes, yes, yes.
Kyle, like the whole thread of Saint

(49:50):
Lucia thirst trapthat's going on throughout the hour.
The whole episode had me rollingand it had me, like really feeling
connected to the Housewives andreally excited that they were all excited.
And they're all single now, and it'skind of fun to see women of this age
like getting into the thirst trapand even when they were like prompting
Sutton to pose there like, openyour mouth, I was laughing because she

(50:14):
it was hilarious.
So, I mean, they were making me laughwatching all of that.
Another thing I thought was worthpointing out is, like Dorit
says, that she doesn't walk around
naked, even around her husbandand beaus is like, I love being naked.
It's part of intimacy for meand I'm stuck here.
I don't really like walking aroundnaked in front of people either,

(50:35):
and I think it kind of
just all comes down to how you were raisedand like, what's normal for you?
I don't think
it means insecure about her bodyor she doesn't have like a certain level
of intimacy with her partner.
Maybe it does, I don't know, is it
something I should, like,be calling a therapist about those?
I don't think just being nakedmeans you're being intimate.
Jennifer Tilly says she would wake up atfive and put makeup on and go back to bed.

(50:59):
Someone,she would wake up with, her boyfriend,
he would be like,wow, she's so beautiful when she wakes up.
It made me laughbecause it feels like such a dated thing.
I don't think like when a man wakesup, he's looking at you like that ever.
I think he's thinking about his breakfast
or he's going to like, fart or something,and it's going to be horrible.
And it's just like men.
I think only women think about that stuff.

(51:20):
But it was cute and it was nice to see,like Jennifer Tilly, like,
give us a little insight into herbecause I know
she says like quirky, crazy things,
but I feel like we haven't learned a lotabout Jennifer Tilly this whole season.
And I've have wanted more.
And so this is like a cute little,like, insight to how she thinks
and who she is, and recallsSutton's sister
intention, where she bound all their handsand said, we're sisters now

(51:43):
and then says it flew out the windowthe next day, which we know
we see it on camera,and I totally agree with her.
Jennifer Vocalizessupport for Sutton here.
And I think that is a really big momentbecause up until this point,
Tilly has steeredclear of the table battles.
She hasn't really said much to supportSutton

(52:03):
and I feel like going into this trip,Sutton like almost rallied the troops
and similar to how Kyle tried to do ita couple weeks ago at the restaurant
and she rally the troops and was like,Tilly, I got you on the show.
You got to back me.
If they come for me this weekend inSaint Lucia, I really think she did that.
And Erika startstalking and Sutton gets so triggered

(52:28):
she starts elevating her voice and startsvictimizing herself.
We are all going to beat me with a stick.
That moment stuck out to methe moment one person besides Dr.
Reid speaks to Sutton about somethingand they're not on Sutton side.
Like it's okay for Tilly to back Suttonand she can talk
and, like, come down on Dory.

(52:49):
But if someone else does
something to Sutton and she was calmly,like, sharing her take,
all of a sudden everyone'sganging up on Sutton and Sutton starts
elevating her voice and getting all crazylike it's it's evident.
And here is Garcelle in the confessionals.
Right after that,the only place Garcelle will say anything
worth camera time is in the confessionals,and it bothers me so much.

(53:12):
Why does she never do this in the moment?
Is it because Garcelle is an actorand she needs someone to feed her a line?
Like, I'm starting to questionGarcelle presence on the show, because
all the juice that comes out of Garcelle,all of her
takes are in confessionals, upuntil this point, and I'm just so annoyed.
I'm like,say something in the moment, Garcelle.
Say one of these quippy little linesin the moment, or are you too scared?

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So Sutton actually apologizesat the dinner about the wallet comment,
and I'm kind of shocked
because how often have we seenSutton apologize for anything?
I think to Rita, shocked to.
And I don't think Terry believes itat all, because Dorit
is basically trying to say,you're only doing this for the camera.
Three weeks have elapsedor something like that,

(53:55):
but she can't say thatbecause it breaks the fourth wall,
even though I think it's time.
Bravo that you let us do it.
We've already done it on other shows.
Let them do it here.
But anyway, she's maintaining the fourthwall.
She's not breaking it.
And then Bose calls out Dorit.
And I think it's like,I think it's kind of cool because, like,
it shows that HBO's is likejust really living in her experience.

(54:17):
She's apologizing to you like,do you hear it?
And then we get a confessionalright after of Sutton calling, Dory broke,
and we all listened.
We all knew that Suttonwasn't authentic in that apology.
We all knew that Suttonwas just embarrassed for throwing her
wallet on the tableat that caviar and caftan brunch,

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and it was so distastefulthat she was going to look bad.
That's the only reason she's apologizing.
I don't think she's really apologizingfor rubbing her money in each face.
I think she loved doing it.
I think she loved it because it hasn'tbeen around Sutton that much.
And Bose is doing this really great thingas a new housewife,
where she's just believing what she seesand believing the action

(54:58):
that she's around and not taking people'sprevious perceptions of staff.
But later we hear Bose confessthat Sutton is not the type of person
she thought she waswhen they get on the boat.
So I just, I thought,I thought it was cool
and I thought it gave us some insightas to how like Bose is seeing the season
and how she's like interactingin this new group of friends.
And I think it might have been likesome really great advice

(55:19):
she got from somebody before she started.
And it seems to be workingreally well for her.
And I like it.
It feels authentic and it feels natural.
And so I do.
I love Bose, I love her, and Erica
is my housewife of the week okay,because she kills it.
In this episode she says everythingI want her to say and she's doing it.

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In the scene, Garcelle takes some notes.
Erica is killing it.
Her confessional at this momenthere is so enlightening for us.
She basically says, Sutton says, all sortsof mean things and then apologizes.
And we're left wondering like, what?
Was she more serious about the insultor the apology?
Like, which one did she actually mean?

(56:00):
Because it couldn't have been both.
And she does it so frequently andshe lashes out and as mean so many times
the perception is that she's that personand that she's not remorseful.
And I thought that was a great editfor them to put in
that little confessional at that moment,because it was enlightening.
It really helped see things.
And it's true.

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We've been watching the show for seasons.
We know how Sutton can be.
Bose's my kind of girl, okay?
And the three minute audio messagethat she called a podcast being like,
girl, your man is here and just saythe world word and I will run up on him.
Had me like, if he has Bose, that is me.
If I was at the restaurantand I saw y'all's husband
or your old boyfriend,like out with somebody else,

(56:44):
I the messages would be flying right awayand I'd be telling you,
and I just love that.
And I feel I still feel likeI would be best friends with Bose.
I think we could really.
Kiki, about what's going on in the group.
She's the best.
And then Suttonsays she hopes Kyle shares her story
because it's a great storyto tell in regards to Morgan,

(57:04):
because Garcelle is bringing upthe Morgan stuff again
and Garcelle is like, totally triggeredthat Sutton didn't have her back.
And I think we're starting to see,at least in the edit of this episode,
that there are some little road bumpsin the friendship of Sutton and Garcelle
that might be finally brought to light,because up until this point,

(57:25):
those two started togetherand they've been ride or die together.
And I think neither of themwanted to break loyalty to each other
because they were both like,supporting each other this entire time.
And this person is faithful.I'm not going to back down on them.
They're like in my cornerwhenever I go into these reunions,
whenever I go into these confrontations,this person has my back.
And now I think that they're startingto get on each other's nerves.

(57:49):
And Garcelle is like,why are you chasing after Kyle so much?
I'm here and I'm your friend,and I don't feel like you're backing me.
And Sutton's like, don't bring up Morgan.
Kyle said not to bring up Morgan,so it's causing a rift.
Similar to how Sutton doesn'tlike when Dorie and Kyle or friends.

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I don't think Garcelle likes itwhen Sutton and Kyle are friends,
which is crazy.
I think everyonecould just be friends, but
everyone's jealous of each other
and they're all keeping it on the DL.

(58:33):
Last week,
I made fun of Sutton at her fashion show.
But I got to tell you, this bathrobethat she's wearing
when the two groups of womendo their breakaways after dinner.
So there's like, a dream, Erika both seen.
And then a Sutton.
Garcelle and Jennifer Tilly seen
Sutton wearing this housecoat,this bathrobe that I need to have.
I'm not sure if it's cashmere,if it's satin or silk.

(58:57):
It looks likeI had a little bit of a sheen to it,
but it looks so soft and I just like,want this robe.
I love the color, I want it,I loved it, and I was like, oh my God,
is this the first thing Sutton has everhad that I think like is tasteful
and that I wantmaybe in the same sit down.
Sutton is gushingthat Kyle spoke up for her
and she was excited that they really arefriends.

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And Garcelle calls it Suttonfor having a blindfold on with Kyle.
And this is another part of the editwhere we see Garcelle
being like a little bit
triggered that Sutton's like,still trying to be friends with Kyle,
especially after Suttonchasing and screaming at Kyle
the whole previous season.
You know, it's insane.
I don't I don't really get it. Likemaybe she watched it back

(59:41):
then was like,why was I treating Kyle that way?
I want to be better this season.
So now she's like trying really hard,I don't know.
The women start hitting the beachin Bowser's like we are the Avengers.
And literally it felt like that.
It felt like they were the Avengerswalking down that beach in armor
because their outfits that wereaccessorized as like, head to toe

(01:00:01):
bows had like, I dunno if it was earringsor if it was like a hairpiece,
a clip of like this metallic hardwarethat was like in her hair, but
literally they looked like the Avengerswalking down that beach.
They're wearing caftans or like cover upson the way to their yacht,
and everyone else is justlaying out in the beach and is all skin.
And I just thought they stuck outlike a sore thumb
as they move down the beach,especially with the camera crews.

(01:00:23):
I'm sure that it was just stealingthe show on the beach.
Everyone was probably staring at them.
Please all rise.
Court is now in session.
The plaintiff, Erika,
makes the case that Sutton kicks a dogwhen it's down.

(01:00:44):
She's critical and not compassionate.
She did it to Erikathe season she was going through it.
The divorce was Tom Girardi
and everything else that was going onin relation to the earrings and whatever
she did to Kyle last season when she wasgoing through it with Maurizio,
the tabloids were picking upeverything with her and Morgan.
She was jumping down her throat then,and now she's doing it with feet.

(01:01:07):
And she claimsthat Sutton is posing as a friend
and is working as an enemy.
Garcelle is just like, wow.
I feel like when Garcellesays something like, wow!
It's like her idea of contributingand like being shocked

(01:01:28):
about what's being said.
But she's not technically taking a stance.
And I'm so happy that Erika is
the plaintiff here and is coming at Suttonbecause she is killing it.
This episode, she's sayingexactly what I'm thinking.
There is a clear pattern here of Suttonattacking women
when they're down,and she is the ultimate non girls girl.

(01:01:51):
I think like meeting her mom this season,seeing all this stuff about Sutton.
I've I've never disliked her more.
And maybe it's the edit.
I mean, I am always susceptibleto changing my opinion.
I could change my opinionnext week and love Sutton if they.
You know,I'm always rooting for the underdog.
But today

(01:02:12):
I cannot stand Sutton.
I hate Sutton today I'm Team Erika.
This statement she gives on the yachtcouldn't be more true.
I love that she does it when Doritand Kyle are actually not there.
She doesn't need their support.
She doesn't need other women to backher up.
Erika is so strong and powerful,

(01:02:34):
and it's just likethere are housewives that like,
whimper and cryand need support from other housewives.
Like, why didn't you back me up?
Why didn't you playlike we've seen a Lisa Barlow do it.
We've seen a Meredith marks do it.
We've seen Sutton do it.
We've seen Garcelle do it.
But you know what?
The stans, the housewives that have beenaround and like are, in my opinion,

(01:02:59):
like the housewives, they can fight
these battles themselves and they can saywhat they want to say themselves.
Erika's got that.
Kyle's got that.
Dorit got that.
They can say what they mean.
And it's just like the housewivesthat want to have people have their back
all the time.
I don't know, I'm not rooting for them.

(01:03:19):
I it's so weak. It seems so weak.
So I love thatErika comes at Sutton on this boat
and makes that point because rollthe recap footage, roll the montage.
We see it.
Production shows us Erica's argumentand I love it.
And then Sutton starts immediatelyplaying the victim.

(01:03:40):
And it's so annoying.
It just makes me more angry at her.
It makes me more angry at her.
Oh, they're always coming for me.
They're pretending to be my friend.
And then there's a confessionalof Garcelle being like, what?
Where's Kyle defending Sutton?
Like what?
Sutton is insane.

(01:04:01):
Why would Kyle want to defend her?
You know, I know Kyleand join this conversation a certain point
and then we see this confessional.
So Kyle and Sutton join the conversation.
And then we see this confessional withGarcelle where she's like, Where's Kyle?
Defending Sutton?
What Garcelle, like Sutton, isn't sayingErika's right.

(01:04:23):
Kyle sees it.
She was the victim of itthe previous season.
Why would she be defending Sutton?
She was literally the victim of itthe previous season.
Why would she defend her?
Garcelle.
Okay.
And that's everything for this week.
We covered so much ground.

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