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.9660377359So I'm hearing you loud and clear.
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Some of you are raising boys, you're having a hard time.
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I'm here to validate you and to tell you I'm seeing it too.
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And then also to give you some information that I think needs to be more available to all parents.
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And I have come across some podcasts that were like, Whoa, they hit home.
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They gave validation to the statistics that we needed to see.
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And giving us a lot more clarity on what the boys are struggling with and then how it's affecting boys becoming men and how men are struggling in this country and then how it's impacting women.
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So it's a huge cyclical problem.
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And we as parents are poised in this perfect position to really start to come up with some solutions.
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I've been really stewing on this one for a while.
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If you are raising a boy.
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we do have some damage control that we have to kind of step in and do.
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We have some rising problems across America right now.
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And men are increasingly at risk of becoming divorced and they're not the ones taking the women to court.
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It's really vice versa.
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Women are marching men into court for divorce.
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And we need to figure out why.
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Why are marriages failing? We do not get married thinking, Oh, I can't wait to sign the annulment papers or to divorce this man.
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We are all in this all in from day one.
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And then something starts to go awry and we don't want this to happen.
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We don't want this to happen to ourselves.
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We don't want this to happen to our babies.
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So why are women reporting huge dissatisfaction with men and why are divorce lawyers reporting these upticks, these trends in women divorcing men and how can we kind of circumvent the problem and start to change it? I've been really deep diving into this.
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I'm really curious.
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I wanted to find out the source of the frustration.
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I wanted to figure out how we can change our parenting to start to change possibly the way mindsets are set as they're getting older.
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Hey moms and dads, welcome to SelfFoundry.
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This is the source for things regarding teenagers, leveling up your child, helping them reach wealth, their goals, figuring out what their identity is, and also just motivating them to become better.
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We know our kids have this untapped potential, and we want to really hone in on that.
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Thanks for joining us.
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If we know that divorce is financially disruptive and we know that it affects our kids, it affects us.
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Did you know divorce costs at least 7, 000 when you have kids in this area, different parts of the country, different amounts, of course, divorce can escalate in costs.
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But as soon as we have children and assets involved, we're talking thousands of dollars.
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And we know that money is one of the number one reasons for divorce.
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Or is it? That's really fascinating, but it's never something you're counting on.
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So now we need to kind of look for some cues.
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So a couple of things.
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I ran across this guy, Richard Reeves.
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He's amazing.
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He is a senior fellow in economic studies at Brookings Institution in Washington, DC.
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He's really been studying this problem with men and boys in our society.
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And he really is pinpointing it back to the schools, which is really fascinating to me as a teacher, whoa, these problems could be really possibly preventable.
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So I think that's super exciting.
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We know schools are archaic.
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Don't we know this? We know we're trying to keep up, but really society's changing so fast.
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Richard Reeves writes from a perspective that's not anti woman, that's not what he's saying, but he wants us to start to think more pro men for a little minute and think about how possibly tables have turned that we needed to help women, but he has some evidence now that actually now we need to redirect back.
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It's almost like the pendulum has swung and now we need to refocus on the boys again.
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So I thought that was really insightful.
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He's offering helpful advice to women, particularly those of us who are raising boys and who are married to men, so that we can be alert earlier to trouble on the horizon.
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So I ran across him being interviewed in some podcasts.
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I haven't found a podcast that Richard Reeves runs himself, but he does have a book "Of Boys and Men".
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I say, grab it.
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I am in no way getting any money for it.
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Please.
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I just want you to know that.
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I just Really adored the book.
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It was so helpful for me.
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I've always noticed a lag between the boys and the girls.
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It comes from the prefrontal cortex.
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It's just slower to develop, but it seems like compared to my teaching 22 years ago, 23 years ago, it feels like a bigger gap and I don't know why I couldn't figure that out.
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But we know what the prefrontal cortex does.
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It really is the highest level of thinking.
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It is what separates us from the animals.
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We know that with the prefrontal cortex, we do planning, we do scheduling, we do consequences.
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We understand how our actions are going to kind of play out before we actually start to do that.
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We have some self control there.
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We have imaginative thoughts and things like that.
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It's really fascinating, but this part of the brain, it has to develop for a long time.
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I've already said this before, that COVID did affect their development.
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So it dropped it back.
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And then we also know that their brains are still developing.
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Girls will be done sooner than boys, but we're looking at about age 25, 26 for girls, 28, 29 for boys.
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Studies are kind of all over the place with that and depends on the person, but wow, we have a lot to work on.
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But what I think we really need to remember is that means we have time.
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We have time to help our boys and our girls to really hone in, develop, get these skill sets, figure out relationally what's going on.
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There is a gap between boys and girls.
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The prefrontal cortex in boys develops slower.
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It's statistically proven.
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There's science behind that, but it feels bigger today.
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Reeves was starting to connect the dots for us, but boys seem, to develop about one to two years later than girls.
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That is an entire academic year or two.
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This early difference is going to be exacerbated in the classroom, particularly at the younger level.
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When you fail at a subject, if you're a kid, and you're going to school every day, and you're failing at a subject like reading, or you're having a hard time following directions, or behaving, or sitting quietly, and maybe your fine motor skills are slower to develop.
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So the writing, the cutting, the things that you're working on in kindergarten, first grade, second grade, when that is hard and you are comparing yourself, because isn't that what humans do? We compare.
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It's like a natural thing.
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But what you start to get as the messaging is I am stupid.
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I am a failure.
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I am not smart.
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I am not good enough.
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Now imagine that messaging on a grand scale of many boys who are one to two years behind developmentally, that part of their brain starting to put that messaging into their head as early as preschool.
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This is insanity to me.
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Classrooms, we're pushing kids early and earlier to read, to write, to do complex math.
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If anybody has a middle schooler or a high schooler, you know, your kids have surpassed your math skills, probably.
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If you were looking at yourself at the same age, I really don't have a friend who didn't feel like their kids were at a different level math at the same age, like age 14 when I was a kid versus my child.
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So we're just pushing them younger and younger and younger, and that is not necessarily going to match the developmental point our kids are at.
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So the stakes are really huge with this because the failures are really, really visible in the classroom.
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They have numbers, they have rankings, sometimes, especially in elementary school, they go from table to table and they move on and progress and people start to notice and you have to read out loud in front of kids, it is very visible and so your failure not only is internalized, but it's also spoken about, kids notice, and you can feel excluded.
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And this starts to happen at a very, very young age.
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Just take that in all your little boys.
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Nothing's wrong with them.
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Nothing.
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They are developmentally perfectly on par.
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That's how they're supposed to be.
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So now we put them into what I consider, frankly, an abnormal, a non biologically cued classroom setting, and I think that this needs to be considered from the parent perspective, what's going on.
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Studies have proven and I have gone to multiple conferences but they have proven that if we just taught every child nothing but social skills, if they just explore the environment, learn their general life skills, such as cleaning and cooking and social norms and responsibility, we could just do that for years when they're little.
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Play is learning, and then we can just pop a book into their hands, and if Everybody got their first book at age eight.
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They would all be reading within six months.
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Six months is all it would take to teach every eight year old how to read, but we're forcing it at abnormal developmental points in their life.
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So what we need to do is to kind of consider what is the perfect year for each skill set to be built.
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Why are schools pushing this out? That's really the question.
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Why are we pushing kids so early? If you talk to most teachers, they know, they're not in the dark about this, but there's nothing we can really do.
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We have set curriculum.
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So what we need to do is we need to kind of consider like the why behind it.
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It's really to appease the parents.
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It's to get our schools ranked higher so that our property values go up.
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Has nothing to do with the children circumstances that's driving this early need.
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And then if you get into the competition of schools and attracting kids, I mean, this is what's going on.
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We're very worried that little Tommy is not going to go to Harvard if he's not reading in kindergarten.
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So we need to just breathe, need to override these messages that our kids are internalizing.
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So, if we start to connect these little boys to the older men, how do they get from five years old to 25, years old? Well, this messaging doesn't go away.
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It's still there.
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And so if we look at what the women who are divorcing men are claiming, we can start to wonder I'm on Facebook all the time on a lot of parenting groups and women groups.
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And I'm seeing a lot of women.
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I mean, on the daily, my heart just breaks that their marriages are strange.
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The marriages are tense.
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Something's not working.
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They're falling out of love.
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Things are just happening.
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And the women without fail almost every single time say, I don't really need a man.
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They're feeling like you have to need somebody.
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And it's a very fascinating mindset.
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Women are statistically by far purchasing more homes as single ladies than single men purchase homes.
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Every realtor is starting to see an uptick in women who are single buying their house on their own as compared to men buying a house on their own, which makes you kind of go, Hmm, women are financially thriving in comparison with statistics.
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In Reeve's book, he dives into the areas where we have the strongest measurable evidence.
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The high school and college years really stand out the most because he just jams in.
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There are so many quotes that just blew my mind.
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For every black man getting a college degree at all levels.
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There are two black women.
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One to two, my friends, that just kind of sets the stage right there.
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And that's just one demographic.
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Here's another one, three in 10 wives now out earn their husband.
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So women are starting to earn more than men.
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The man who they are married to, and this kind of blows that social norm where men are supposed to be the providers.
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Well, if they can't be the provider, what is their value? And they're getting conflicting messaging.
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And then in almost half of families where both parents work full time, so two working full time parents, mothers earn as much or more than the fathers.
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All of this is amazing progress.
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Not saying it isn't amazing progress.
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I'm a working woman.
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I'm with you.
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But what I'm asking is, because this is what I'm seeing in these posts and in conversations with my clients and just what I'm noticing.
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Here's my question.
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Are you happy ladies working full time and being a full time mom, full time wife, full time housewife? Are you happy or does something need to give? I think we're all at a turning point in our nation's history when we, as parents, need to break this exhausting cycle and figure out how to change the roles of men and women in this country.
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And it needs to start younger.
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We need to start to speak into the mindset and the purpose and really help people develop this identity before crisis hits as adults.
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So my worry is that Reeves discusses how men have relied on women for their emotional strength.
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By and large, studies have proven that men need women for emotional strength.
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Generations of this.
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Men often need women for the emotional strength.
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They were the backbone.
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They were support.
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You, you know, the old sayings behind every successful man is a successful woman.
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That support system comes from women and that's a partnership.
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In turn, women used to rely on men for financial foundation.
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If the latter is no longer needed, then what role does the man play that will help him be confident and joyful and feel useful in a marriage? Without feeling useful and needed and desired, the stereotypical purpose that men used to cling to, used to have as their identity, kind of is gone.
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When humans no longer believe their life has purpose, we start to fall into anxiety, frustration, depression, and often it looks a lot like distance, anger, fear.
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These are the emotions that couples are dealing with.
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This is what's breaking apart your marriage.
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If you feel like you have no purpose, if you can't figure out what drives you, if you're losing your joy, you begin to work less.
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You feel a little bit lost in who you are and who you're becoming and who you need to be on the day to day.
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As a mom, this is the last thing I want for my baby boy to grow up with.
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Right? We know the statistics.
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The number of kids in this country that are being raised with absent fathers is kind of staggering.
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According to the Annie E.
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Casey Foundation, more than 14.
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3 million children are in fatherless homes with mom raising them.
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We're seeing 6 million kids living with cohabitating parents, so unmarried but living together.
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Another 3.
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5 million kids are living in father only households.
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Forbes notes that both marriage and divorce rates are declining, interesting.
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But if you're not getting married, you're not getting divorced.
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Couples who do divorce tend to dissolve their marriages after about eight years.
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Are you surprised? I don't think it's surprising.
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I'm starting to wonder though if it's just telling.
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Eight years into a marriage, what is the lifestyle change? Well, it's dramatic.
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You've got couples who are now possibly raising multiple small children.
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Maybe you have financial strain, maybe you purchased your own home.
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This is a very, very critical time of life.
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And so if you're starting to follow the dots, The women are picking up the majority of the slack in this increasingly expensive country.
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They're working full time.
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Dual income households are going to have an easier time purchasing these very expensive homes in our country.
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And, dealing with the inflation and everything else, just the cost of food and survival is, is getting more and more.
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So two people working in the house have a much better chance of really keeping their head above water, but now you're working full time, still keeping the identity of raising the kids, being the primary caregiver, also juggling all the family responsibility, which I hear in my clients as the calendar.
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The scheduling, the shuttling of the kids, the mental tax of homework and doctor appointments and all that kind of stuff typically does fall on the female.
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The woman is juggling all these balls.
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What's going to drop? The man.
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It's a grown up.
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He's okay if I let him go.
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I can't keep everybody happy.
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I can't keep everything going.
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I'm just juggling, juggling, juggling.
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And it is a logical decision that the only thing that can be eliminated is a grown up in my life.
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And so, the relationship is the ball that often is being, hopefully, set down on.
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Sometimes it falls crashing to the ground.
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You can't drop the money.
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You can't drop the kids.
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You can't drop the house because then you'll be homeless.
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The career is supporting everything.
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So if you're frustrated with your man for adding to the burden and not lightening it, then divorce becomes the quick fix.
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There's this divorce lawyer.
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He's interesting.
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He pops up on my feed all the time.
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Have you seen him? He keeps doing ads, but they're really fascinating because they're really hitting home with this.
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He's basically lecturing men and he's really sick and tired of hearing woman after woman come into his office demanding a divorce because the man doesn't contribute enough.
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He says women are doing the leaving, and this is really a wow to him.
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I think all of this society has very confused messaging, and nobody's prepping the boys and young men that times have changed.
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Their role has been redefined, whether they know it or not.
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It's redefined.
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It's not their fault, but we as grownups are setting them up for failure.
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The man is no longer the provider, protector, defender.
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There's no bears.
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There's no tribes attacking us.
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There's money already coming in.
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So there's this.
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surplus, like what is the role if the traditional stereotypical male role has been redefined? So we have to help them redefine this.
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I am in no way saying men are not necessary.
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I love my man.
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I adore my relationship with him.
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I know many, many healthy, happy relationships where we really, really do co- lead, but what is the difference in mindset between that kind of relationship and a non cohesive one? What is it that women want? We want to partner.
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We want a man who's going to shoulder the burden of raising the kids and loving her at the same time.
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This is what I was talking about that's kind of being squeezed out of early education is the social, the relationship building, the play.
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Figuring out how society works relationally between, leaders and followers and groups and things like that.
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This is affecting our men today.
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We really do need to bring this back in.
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Dual income homes are not going to be a thing of the past.
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Housing and living prices are not going to go down.
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So this just isn't feasible.
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A TikTok video popped up yesterday and this young 20 something guy was ranting and he's like, I want to know how I'm ever going to find a woman.
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Like, tell me a woman who doesn't want a guy for just money.
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And this older guy, you know, they have like the split screen.
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This older guy's watching this, this younger guy talking and he starts laughing and he's like, dude, women aren't after your money.
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That's why you're still single.
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He says, you're not offering the other stuff.
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That's so fascinating to me.
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The wisdom of somebody who's like.
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It's just been a little further and has a little bit more insight.
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He's like, it's not just the money.
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It's not the protection.
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It's not just being physically strong.
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It's more like there's something more that's missing.
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Most women will say they do want a man's money.
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We don't want our men to not work.
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That is a point of contention in many divorces and many relationships, if you're seeing the weight I'm pulling, we need to match the weight.
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So you need to match how much baggage or, just life weight, you know what I mean? I'm feeling like it's on my back, right? Do you feel like that? And that's, really kind of interesting because when women talk about how heavy life is, they do talk about the doing, but so much as the emotional weight.
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Is this resonating? There is an emotional burden that is heavy.
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So I think that this has to do with the physical daily grind, the day to day, the schedules, the car rides, the doctor appointments the getting kids to play dates because we want kids to hang out with people, but we can't just let them run around the streets like hooligans anymore.
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You know, which we know would be good for the kids, but we can't do that.
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Like, All of this stuff takes up brain capacity.
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And we know that our brain is so worried.
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We're going to forget something that what our brains do is we have to loop thoughts.
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So if I'm like, I've got to pick up Tommy and we have a doctor appointment at two and there's going to be homework and Oh, Susie has a game and Oh, I have to get Charlie over here by this time.
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And then we just keep reminding ourselves because our brain is so concerned we're going to forget, because our children are precious, right? We don't want to forget our children and your brain is helping you.
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But what it's doing is it's creating exhaustion.
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It's creating anxiety for some people, but really it's a mental exhaustion and it's doing his job.
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It's supposed to remind you, but we're getting worn out and we're like, please help.
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Just please help.
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that's the cry I'm hearing from women.
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Possibly, and I don't know if I'm speaking for everybody, but I'm speaking, I think for quite a few people I've been working with and I'm listening to women are starting to just put their hands up and go, Something's got to give.
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I cry uncle.
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And now we're looking at perhaps a generation that's going to have to do the hard work.
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I think us as parents are going to have to do a hard thing and we're going to have to change our mind to help change our future children's relationships.
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So how are we going to help boys prepare for this shift in society's goals? And we know Our kids are going to be more intermarried racially, culturally, than we ever were.
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The world is so fast moving and everything now is a global society.
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So we really have to help them to be very adaptable and gritty and resilient and ready to evolve into what they need to become so that they don't suffer the financial, the emotional, and the, just life disruptor that divorce is.
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So how do we help the boys? That's the big thing.
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How do we help the boys prepare for the shift in the male's role of society? I think we have to turn back to the Bible.
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And I know that's kind of weird because when you think back to the Bible, you're like, Oh my gosh, like men and women were so pigeonholed into these roles and they weren't allowed to intertwine and things like that.
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But if you really are looking at the Bible, when Jesus came, there was a shift and Jesus started to redefine the role of women.
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He came to women in a different way.
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The woman at the well was the very first person who was told who Jesus was and she became the messenger, the first commission person to go tell her community that Jesus was the Savior.
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You look at how Mary and Martha were instructed to sometimes stop working and just sit and learn and do different thinking.
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You've got women like Deborah who are stepping into male roles.
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I mean, it's just unbelievable how God in his story started to change how we think about the gender roles and how he approached conversations with men and women.
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And you look at David who is a very sensitive guy, very emotional.
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And then we've got lots of praying models.
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I mean, so many people who, talk about that.
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So if we go back to the Bible, we know that there's that equal yoking thing.
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We know we can look at that.
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I know it has to do with finding the person who's spiritually is equally yoked to God.
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So we know the cord of three.
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You, your partner and God is hard to break.
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We know all of this.
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So if we're matching our partner with beliefs, we need to make sure that a.
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Our kids have strong foundational beliefs, but that B.
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They're also actively going to connect with kids with spiritual beliefs that match theirs so that they're equal.
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But then we also need to figure out when you are yoked, think about the two oxen who are yoked together.
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They're not yoked for no reason.
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They're not yoked at night and things like that.
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They're yoked when they're working.
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They're yoked because they have to go in the same direction.
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If my spouse is yoked to me and he wants to go left and I'm trying to go right, we're not going to go anywhere.
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Sometimes we're going to have one person pushing harder than the other, like working harder, and we're going to end up just spinning the non working person in a circle.
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And they're going to just dig themselves into the ground.
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And we know how many relationships is one person just spinning.
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Spinning, spinning, spinning, and another person's not listening, so we need to start to really focus on that yoking that has to do with work effort and spiritual connectivity.
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And that all has to do with where are you going? We know we are going to an eternal life.
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We have to live our lives with an eternal lens and eternal focus.
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So we need to start young with the boys and girls.
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Teach your child not to worry about their academics so much.
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Not reading in first grade has nothing to do with going to Harvard.
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Richard Reeves suggests you hold your boy back at least one year to shorten the developmental gap so that the boys are no longer internalizing the lack of development, the failure.
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He doesn't want that messaging of you're not good enough and you're not able to kick in so early.
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We want kids to have a fair chance, and we cannot change their developmental level.
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You cannot make the prefrontal cortex develop any faster than it's going to.
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Hold the boys back.
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I get that all the time on Facebook.
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The school wants to hold my boy back.
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I don't really want to, buh, buh, buh, buh, buh.
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Hold them back.
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Hold them back.
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I am a high school teacher.
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I can see the boys who are struggling are very often the ones who are developmentally younger, socially, physically, and, emotionally.
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So if you can give them an edge, I really do see in 9th and 10th grade boys and men in one classroom, and they're all the same age.
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So you really do want to think ahead.
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Don't worry about 5 year old Tommy.
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Worry about 15 year old Tommy.
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It's a huge difference.
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Think longer, think down the road.
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Nobody's going to get made fun of because they're bigger or they're smarter or they're, um, hotter and kids want to date them.
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Like all, none of that, who does get picked on? We know.
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We know head it off.
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But you can't hold them back in 14 or 13.
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It's too late.
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They're going to be embarrassed, and then we have a whole nother set of issues, right? So hold them back early as soon as the problem is identified.
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Okay.
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So we're going to try to stop them from internalizing that message of failure, that they're not good enough and they're not able because that message is carried deep.
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Deep in their heart and their soul, and we're going to see it manifest as they get older and it's going to spread into, I'm not good enough in a marriage, I'm not good enough in my career, I'm not good enough in this relationship and I'm not a good enough dad.
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We do not want this to cross over.
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If this crosses over without interruption, we have some problems.
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So all of these thoughts, point to, "I have no purpose and I'm not useful".
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Just think about that.
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I'm not good enough.
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I have no purpose.
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I'm not useful.
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It's just kind of like a knife in the heart, right? And these are the boys that are coming to me I can reroute their brain pretty fast and I know you can too, but we need to be aware of it.
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We need to be cognizant of how deep does this root, how far back do we have to go? And it can be quite far my friends, but I have seen massive turnaround pretty fast.
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So this is going to need to be reduced so that that internal drive that men have to be brave will kick back in.
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That they're going to want to try new things.
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That failure is cool.
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Failure is learning.
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We fail forward.
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We want to start to change the messaging.
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We want to help them find ways to be useful, help them find ways to be good enough and help them to know they deserve love.
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They're not working for love.
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They just deserve it.
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And when you have love and you can give love, you have purpose.
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It's the same root problem and failure is often going to be linked to some deeply ingrained message.
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Whether it was spoken by a parent, a teacher, another child, Learning by observation over the years, like they have at some point internalized some messaging that as adults need to be worked out.
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So we need to kind of kick into high gear with, with our children and start to reroute this and change the progression of those thoughts.
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But we also need to have compassion for the adults who need to work through this, that they are indeed really, really desired.
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And I highly recommend a huge emphasis with your kids for home service.
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What I mean by that, stop with the chores.
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You don't do chores for money.
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They serve out of love.
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We serve because we belong in a home.
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We belong together.
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We love each other.
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And these, Acts of service is something that should come from within as a gratitude, but also to help them understand that they are needed.
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They are contributing.
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They are part of this home and a home is about work and work is required to Make people feel loved and also to get love back because it's that yoking.
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We have to work toward things together So I would say the earliest is really when we're trying to get them to do chores and i'm gonna just call out a number: I'm gonna say three years old They need to start doing chores at three years old.
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So just, just get that going little chores.
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Remember you can look up developmentally appropriate things on Pinterest.
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It's all over the place, but three, four years old, and then it's just going to build as they get older.
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We're not creating little slaves, but you're going to find if you can train them younger, it's going to be so much easier.
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Don't wait until they're older.
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Also teach children to serve each other.
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Cleaning up after their friends.
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Cleaning up at their friend's house before they leave.
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Caring for their things and their friend's things.
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So, ask why? Have conversations with your kids, like, why are we doing this together? You know, and have them start to express things and tell them like, you are so valuable in this family.
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I'm just so glad you're part of this family and start to put the proper messaging into your child.
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Now, we're not trying to create narcissistic children who think, or like children who think they're better than everybody else and nothing like that.
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This is the humility to be willing to give endlessly not to earn love, but because they're so full of love that the love pours out and we need to teach them ways to pour out that love.
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I hope you kind of see why your child might be struggling.
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If this feels like possibly you get it, but now your kid is too old and you're not dealing with a four or an eight year old anymore.
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You've got a big kid with a big concern.
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I'm here for you.
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So reach out.
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I do one on one coaching.
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I have a group course that I'm going to be launching.
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I have digital courses that you can work through on your own that actually are really fantastic.
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If you're finding that your spouse also needs the same kind of coaching that your child does, You can do these programs together as a family.
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You're going to get more collective family vocabulary and conversations going, and it's really going to be transformative, but I want you to know that you're not crazy.
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Your kids are struggling and they've got a legitimate reason, but it's a symptom of something bigger in society.
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we can turn this around my friends.
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It's on us though, because if we don't take control, then we're just going to let another generation struggle.
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So let's change these statistics.
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Reach out to me.
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My website is www.selffoundry.com.
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I would love to connect.
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00:32:16,411.0600377 --> 00:32:17,971.0600377
So you're grabbing my tech contract.
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Tech contracts are designed to give you more control.
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We know that this phone, it's a necessary evil.
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The kids need to connect.
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They need to be with their friends.
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They don't want to be left out.
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And frankly, this is how kids organize social gatherings.
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So we need them to be on.
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00:32:32,451.0600377 --> 00:32:42,36.0600377
However, how much is too much? Is really going to be up to us now with any good contract, any good rule, any good discipline structure, it's all about the enforcement.
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We need to enforce it.
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00:32:43,616.0595377 --> 00:32:50,296.0600377
And we need to be in unison with all of the adults and even caregivers, like maybe grandma, grandpa needs to be in on this contract.
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Here's the study that I'm basing this on in 2003, Korea's Hanyang University has been studying all kinds of data regarding phones.
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Most studies back in the day, we're saying everybody needs to be off phones.
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It's terrible for you.
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Social media is "ruining your child".
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Yada, yada, yada.
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This is the reality.
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We are parents.
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I'm a parent.
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I have teenagers.
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I have a young adult.
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I'm also building a business on the internet.
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We need access to it.
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Here's the actual research that's now coming out as of December 2023.
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So what is happening is they are saying if students could be on for one to two hours a day, this is going to significantly, significantly REDUCE their symptoms of depression, like their risk of depression, suicidal thoughts, sleep issues, stress, alcohol addiction, comparing to people who don't use a phone at all.
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So we need to be careful.
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00:33:42,421.0605377 --> 00:33:44,911.0605377
We don't want to actually take away the phone completely.
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It increases your risk.
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00:33:46,511.0595377 --> 00:33:50,261.0605377
However, the sweet spot is two to four hours.
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Four hours or more, this is going to increase their risk rate to 22%.
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This is high guys.
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We need to be very, very cautious.
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00:33:59,271.0605377 --> 00:34:02,771.0605377
We know that girls, guys, they're all experiencing anxiety, stress.
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A lot of it has to do with comparison, feeling left out, feeling like they are not enough, feeling like they are wasting time because frankly they are.
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They're consuming, not adding value to the world.
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You're going to have to decide as adults, before we even talk about this contract with your child, how much is the sweet spot, but I wanted to give you a little bit of data.
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There is a link.
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It's free 15 minute consult.
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00:34:24,891.0610377 --> 00:34:32,951.0630377
I'm happy to counsel you happy to work with your child, happy to coach you or your child into whatever future you choose to create.
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God bless.