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January 28, 2025 61 mins

Brian recounts his first week of recovery from his lower eyelid surgery and hears Judson’s perspective on their trip to Sephora with Brian’s kids. Judson shares a lovely Daddy/Son experience and talks about how he navigates some of the challenges of a corporate job. The two then talk kissing–from their first kisses to practicing on their pillows to what makes a good kisser to how much more there is than lip-kissing. They end with Judson reaching into his own experience to address a listener's question about how to rebuild trust in his relationship after learning his partner has begun experimenting with crystal meth

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