What if AI could eliminate burnout instead of just speeding things up? Gavin Grisamore, CISO at Lead Bank, joins Nate Burke and Lior Div to reimagine the future of cybersecurity, one where AI agents reduce toil, reshape SOC structures, and elevate human creativity.
In this episode, Gavin shares what it really means to manage risk in an AI-driven environment. From rethinking alert fatigue and L1/L2 roles to challenging sunk cost fallacies and shifting defensive strategies, the trio explores how AI is not just another tool, but a transformation. Whether you’re leading a team or navigating boardroom AI pressure, this conversation will challenge your assumptions about what’s next.
Impactful Moments:
00:00 – Introduction
00:53 – The value of leisure in cybersecurity
03:25 – AI’s role in risk management
05:15 – Rethinking security with AI agents
09:00 – Evolution of alerting structures in SOCs
11:14 – The fast and furious future of attacks
15:30 – Sunk cost fallacy in technology
20:31 – Future team dynamics in cybersecurity
23:30 – Transformation of threat intelligence
26:55 – Balancing human creativity with AI capabilities Interested in being a guest or want to recommend someone? Reach out to us at DoHumanWork@7ai.com
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