A Spiritual Awakening in DC: One On One with Bishop Leon Benjamin | Episode 3 - Going Rogue with Lara Logan

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Leon (00:00):
We have to match policy with what the
people voted, not.
Oh, you didn't know what you were doing.
That's the narrative now.
You didn't know what you were doing.
You made a mistake when you voted for Trump.

Lara (00:09):
Yeah, or you're too stupid to vote.
When we said you could vote, we didn't
actually mean it.
We only meant it.
As long as you didn't show up and you, let
us do whatever we think is right, because
we know better.

(00:32):
Welcome back to Going Rogue with Lara Logan,
and for this episode we have one of my
favorite people in the whole world, pastor
Leon Benjamin, who has made the journey
here from Dallas.
Thank you for driving all the way.
It's very important that people come to Fly
Over Country.

Leon (00:48):
Yes, and see that it is actually worth
stopping here.
Yes, yes.

Lara (00:53):
So okay, Leon, we have Luke Coffey in the
studio today.
Over there, Mr Luke Coffey, you over there?

Luke (01:01):
I'm here Excited to have Pastor Benjamin
here with us.

Lara (01:05):
Okay, and so, pastor Benjamin, you and I
have known each other for a few years now.
Obviously, you're a man of faith.
You've also been in and out of the White
House lately checking on the president,
busy on a number of things, some of which
you can talk about, some of which you can't.

(01:26):
But you also and you have a role in am I
allowed to say this you have a role coming
up in the office of faith.

Leon (01:32):
Well, we are working now with the office of
faith.
Pastor Paula White-Cain is the director,
and so she has a wonderful staff and some
great people, and so there's some other
things that are possibly coming up, but we
as a group of pastors have had the
wonderful privilege opportunity to go in

(01:53):
and meet.
We were there when President Trump signed
the executive order for the Office of Faith.

Lara (02:03):
In the Oval Office, right In the.

Leon (02:05):
Oval Office, which I've never been in
before.
So first time for everything, right yeah,
and we had a chance to pray for the
president, wow, and I felt the holy ghost.
I mean it was you're seeing God do
something and set a precedent.
You're seeing God do something and set a
precedent in something that has never been

(02:27):
done before.
And so we were there.
We were in another room adjacent to it.
We were there singing songs.
We were there praising God.
This is the White House.
This is great.
Come on somebody.

Lara (02:46):
This is the White House and we're in there
praising God.
Okay, so I just have to say this episode we
are going to have a conversation about
faith and about God, about this moment in
history and about all the things that have
led up to here, about all the things that
have led up to here, and I really would

(03:07):
like to know, from a spiritual point of
view, where this is going and what
responsibilities we have in this moment.
So that's how we're going rogue this week.
And, leon, I do have to say, because I know
you well you are among the most
photographed men on the planet.
You are among the most photographed men on
the planet.
You are tireless.

(03:28):
You have been actively working to save this
country and to stand up for God and for
faith across all communities, all people,
all races.
I mean, every time I turn around, you're a
lot like the Ever Ready Bunny.
You never run out of energy, you just keep

(03:49):
going and going and going, whether it's the
100 days of prayer that you're doing right
now, or the praying for the election, or
the different events where you go to and
you've spoken.
I mean, for people who don't know you, I
just want to give them a sense of the man
that I know your wife is a pastor.

Leon (04:09):
Yes, yeah, we kind of got God.
I think we didn't know we were really going
to pastor.
People would say it we just wanted to be
going to church and helping out the pastor.

Lara (04:23):
I see.

Leon (04:24):
But it, you know, god began to speak and to
be a little bit more direct, you know,
because his voice is real.
It's a real voice of God.
Sometimes we want to hear God and he
doesn't say anything.
So we read his word, we pray, but we heard

(04:47):
the Lord say okay, you're going to go
pastor.
And even though other people said it, it
was not until the Lord gave the
confirmation that this is what we're
supposed to do.

Lara (04:59):
So do you want to open with a prayer?

Leon (05:01):
Yes.

Lara (05:02):
Okay.
Always, I love to pray Now don't go on for
30 minutes, don't go on for 40 minutes.
Yes, okay, always.
I love to pray.
Don't go on for 30 minutes.
Don't go on for 40 minutes.
No, okay, I'm just saying we don't want
people.
I mean, even if God tells you to?
No, I'm just kidding.
I'm kidding.
What's that Luke?

Luke (05:21):
Let's pray.

Leon (05:22):
Father.
We thank you, lord, for this wonderful
occasion that you have brought us together
to just speak candidly about faith and
about hope and love and all the things that
are going on in our nation, and how God,
your perspective, oh God, is valid through
the people, and even people that don't even
know you.
We ask for your covering and your grace.

(05:44):
Thank you for Laura extending her kindness
and her expertise in getting the message
out that faith is alive in America and
around this world.
We thank you in Jesus' precious name.

Lara (05:58):
Amen.
Okay, Leon, let's go right out of the box.
A lot of people in this country are like
why do we need an office of faith, these
right-wing lunatics, these?
Mega extremists now they're messing up the
Constitution.
What happened to separation of church and
state?
There's no reason to have something like

(06:19):
this.
What is the purpose of the office of faith,
as far as you know?

Leon (06:26):
It really goes back to the perspective of
our founding fathers that they depended
upon the Lord for direction and even
writing the frame, the framework of our
declaration of independence, our
constitution, everything was not just we
got to get away and form our own union.

(06:48):
We really need direction.
So there were pastors involved in the
framing of our Constitution and our
Declaration of Independence.
Pastors all over the place.
They didn't have to go far.
Faith was prevalent.
It was relevant even in the framing of our
nation.
So finally, what, almost 200 years later,

(07:09):
to see it manifest in such a tangible way?
I think it's really paramount that our
nation right now have such a thing as the
office of faith in the White House.

Lara (07:24):
Well, some people will say the critics
right.
They'll say, well, this steps on the
separation of powers, and you know that
you're supposed to keep god out of it.
Um, and they've been quite successful in
making that argument, because kids don't
pray in schools anymore, you know, you know
they're but that was an argument see the
ten commandments anywhere.
I mean, there's places where they won't

(07:44):
even do nativity decorations at Christmas
time.

Leon (07:47):
But it's funny you said that Because
remember, they were already in school From
the Harvards and the Yales and the
Princetons, and from the beginning All
schools had what is called the Atkins Bible.
That was the original Bible that was used
by our founding fathers, and so everything
was Bible.

(08:07):
Everything in the beginning was prayer,
everything was Bible.
So it was an argument that said we don't
need it anymore.
It wasn't an argument to say that this is
the first time prayer was ever in school
and the Bible was in school.
It started out in school yes, it started

(08:28):
out.

Lara (08:28):
When did they take it out?

Leon (08:30):
it was in the 60s oh, the 60s cultural
mocks.

Lara (08:34):
Cultural mocks, is that right?

Leon (08:36):
it was a cultural clash and everybody
wanted to be heard and thought that uh was
probably a very good time with the whole
racism stuff that was going on civil rights,
woodstock, woodstock we called it the Jesus
Movement.
There was a lot of things going on Drugs,

(08:58):
yeah, and people were looking and searching
the Vietnam War.
My dad was in the Vietnam War.

Lara (09:05):
That came a little bit later, right, but it
started in the 60s and rolled into the 70s.

Leon (09:11):
All of us watched MASH, the Korean War oh
gosh, that was a great show, and so we're
trying to find ourselves as a nation find
ourselves as, as a nation.

Lara (09:28):
That's really that, that searing moment
where cultural marxism really took over
american, uh, pop culture and popular
culture, right, yeah and um.
I mean because the at that point the
marxists realized that the american dream
made the whole proletariat an unreliable
partner.
Because you could work in this country and
you know you could make life better for
yourself.
And it didn't matter or you know where you

(09:48):
were born, whether you had connections or
not.
Connections I mean you.
You had a chance, you had hope yeah and um
so, so marxism itself.
You know that old model of going uh,
through the the worker.
Um just, it just didn't work.
And so what did they do?
They went to cultural Marxism.
And it dates back to the Frankfurt School

(10:10):
and all of that right that goes.
People that came out just before the Second
World War and took up shop at Columbia
University.
I mean it really became rooted in the
universities and look, you know, it still
is.

Leon (10:22):
Well, wanting to redefine the existence of
man.
What is the purpose of man.
It's a scripture in the Bible that says
what is man?
That thou art mindful of him, the son of
man, that thou visited him, For you made
him a little lower than the angels, but you
crowned him with glory, with power,
dominion.
And so Marxism says man should not have all

(10:45):
that power, it should only be given to a
few.
So who gets to decide who has the power?
This is the argument of Marxism that only a
few think they should have the power and
the rest of them should be scrapping for
crumbs of society.
And these elitists get to enjoy all the

(11:07):
plush and all the benefits and things that
society has to offer.

Lara (11:14):
That's the flaw, right, or one of the many
flaws, because it's all animals are equal,
but some animals are more equal than others
Because you always got to have the
overlords making sure that everybody's
equal you know equally poor yeah, jesus
obedient.

Leon (11:30):
He taught totally opposite.
He said he that is greatest among you shall
be your slave, shall be your servant, and,
and, and if you want to serve, you have to
be as a child, and so that type of humility
is totally erased from Marxism.

Lara (11:50):
Because children are by nature humble.

Leon (11:53):
Yeah, that's the kingdom.
The kingdom Jesus rebuked his disciples
because the parents said bless my child,
please, lord, bless my child.
And the disciples said get these children
away.
You're above these children.
And he rebuked them and said suffer the
little children to come unto me and forbid
them not, for such is the kingdom of God.

(12:16):
So the Marxism is totally anti-kingdom.

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You know, leon, when you bring up children
like that, it really brings up.
Such a painful thing that I think we're
going through right now is confronting the

(13:44):
reality, as a nation, of what, what has
really been happening to children hmm,
right, I mean this Jeffrey Epstein stuff
and you know, whatever the the politics are
around, the documents and all the rest of
it.
I started to look last night actually I
started to look online at and go down these

(14:07):
rabbit holes and I was just shocked by the
things that I found on Instagram and these
other places.
These people who are celebrated designers
there's a shoe designer and a dress
designer and this and that People who are
just famous in the art world and their
accounts are littered with satanic imagery
and blood and so much stuff with kids.

(14:30):
And you I mean you, just you look at these
people who are being openly sexual towards
kids and about kids in a public square and
you think, what do we really not know Like
when the whole thing is laid bare, how bad

(14:51):
is this going to be?

Leon (14:53):
Well, it's the thing about the children, I
think, really takes the mask off of the
true motives of the Marxist.
So the whole thing is we don't want the
whole mandate.
And I'm going to go all the way back to
Genesis.

(15:14):
The whole mandate was he made male and
female and then he blessed them.
So the whole thing about passing the
blessing and then he blessed them.
So the whole thing about passing the
blessing.
See, children represent that.
It's called heritage.
Children are heritage of the Lord.

(15:37):
So the passing of the blessing was that God
would promise Adam and Eve children, and
when a woman was buried it was a sign that
God had shut up heaven.
So to see the children running around the
planet would be like God sent them.
That was the original idea of children on
the planet, that they didn't get here by
accident.

Lara (15:58):
They were sent by God, sure and in the case
of Adam and Eve, they were all grown.
They didn't go through the process.
Well, this is a good point.

Leon (16:13):
They didn't go through the process.
No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no,
no, no.
Puberty, no adolescence, just do the will
of God.
Go to work.
He till the garden, you know, keep it and
take care of that woman and we know how
that went.

Lara (16:28):
Well, oops, not so good.

Leon (16:33):
That did not.
The devil tried.
He made sure.
He made sure that it would always be
friction.
You know that was his goal, so that the
focus would never be on God's will.
It would always be on man's will.
See, Marxism is totally absent of God's
will.

Lara (16:50):
Well, and not only that, I was just shocked
when, you know, my kids went to a Catholic
school in this little town and they were
teaching Marxism as an alternative form of
government.
And I mean, I had to say to the headmaster
I said you realize, first of all, it's not
a form of economic organization, as you're

(17:12):
teaching, it's a form of social control and
it's a political system.
He said well, I'm not an expert in Marxism.
He said to me.
I said okay, you only have to know one
thing about Marxism, because you're a
Catholic school there's no church, there's
no God, there's no faith.
Marxists are atheists.
They believe God does not exist.

(17:33):
How are you not teaching that to students
in a Catholic school?
He didn't want to know.

Leon (17:43):
Well see, I really want to hit the point
about why the children on the planet?
Because he gave man kind of a.
It was an affirmation but it was kind of a
commandment.
He says be fruitful and multiply.
But the other part was replenish.
That word in the Hebrew means to, to bring

(18:04):
back to former fullness.
That means there were some people on the
planet before oh yeah, to bring it back.
Re means return.
Sure, replenish supply, right.
So bring back the supply that was here
before.
And that the whole thing about why.

(18:27):
Why God wanted that this planet, why did he
want this planet?
Why he wanted this planet to display his
purpose and his will, his desires.
And we call that.
Most countries, like in the Western, they
don't understand this, but other countries
do.
It's called colonization.
To colonize something means you don't, you

(18:48):
don't destroy it, you put your intent in
there.
So they all start to act like you talk,
like you walk, like you like, for example,
like the bahamas.
They was, you know, colonized by the
british.
So they drove on the left side of the road,
they drank tea, in the middle of the day
they wore a tie yeah, yeah, nelson.

Lara (19:14):
He came along and nelson madela was like
I'm done with this, I'm not wearing the tie
he made.
Uh, he made brightly colored shirts famous
yeah, so that's that's called independence.

Leon (19:21):
See, really, what?
What man did was he declared independence
from God, so basically getting cut off from
headquarters.
Heaven was headquarters I see so Adam
didn't fall from heaven.
When you say the fall, we talk about the
great fall.
This is why children are so important.
Adam didn't fall from heaven.

(19:42):
He fell in the form of rulership.
So when you hit the children, you're saying
you don't want future, you don't want
rulers that will eventually rule.
So you really affect the whole kingdom of
God operation when you attack the children.

Lara (20:00):
And you wound God.

Leon (20:02):
Oh, you're telling God you don't exist and
you wound God.
Oh, you're telling God you don't exist, so
it goes deep.
So I mean God sends a flood and destroys
everybody except for eight people.

Lara (20:22):
You think about that, Of course.
I think Noah was done with kids.

Leon (20:29):
He certainly had had a few by then, yeah,
but Shem Ham and Japheth had to replenish
the whole earth again.

Lara (20:35):
Yes, so, leon, I mean, you hear often that
we're in the midst of a spiritual battle,
and I wonder how that plays into what
you're saying now.

Leon (20:47):
Yeah, spiritual meaning discernment, not
fight, because God fights a different way.

Lara (20:55):
What do you mean?

Leon (20:56):
If God wants to take you out, he sends an
angel.

Lara (21:00):
That sounds a lot like the devil, I know.
So we have a saying here If God wants to
bless you he sends a person.

Leon (21:07):
If Satan wants to curse you, he sends a
person.

Lara (21:12):
Oh, that's very tricky, I know.
So you need discernment to know the
difference you got to have discernment.

Leon (21:18):
So spiritual warfare is really not guns and
bullets and knives.
This is where our dear friend General Flynn
came in with the books about 5GW.

Lara (21:30):
Oh yeah, Now we're going to really get
attacked for this episode you brought in
the Flynn.
No, that's good.
That's good because we don't care.

Leon (21:38):
Well, spiritual warfare is not learned,
it's discerned when somebody really hates
you because they're cloaking, they're
masking, they're trying to be something
that they're not, to present an image of
something, to make you relax, to make you
comfortable, to deceive, to deceive.
That's why the devil used in the garden,

(22:01):
the serpent.
He was subtle of all the other things.
So when you saw the serpent you were like
and so when?
So when he would talk?
You are so much gazing at his beauty, at at
the, the shimmer.
We call it the, the glimmer.

Lara (22:18):
I hate snakes I know, but he was not gazing
at the serpent, I'm running for my life at
this.

Leon (22:25):
The serpent was on two feet, it could walk.
Oh yes, if you really go check out
underneath the snake, there's a place where
he had legs and hands.
Wow, so in this case he could stand, I see.
So when God cursed the serpent that forever
to be on his belly to lick the dust of the
man, now you know why Satan hates us.

(22:50):
He's licking dust eternally.
So what we shed is his dinner.
Stuff we don't need anymore is his lunch,
because our skin shed all the time.
That's what God taught Adam right From dust
are up, you came Back to the dust, you
return, wow.

(23:11):
So there's a despicableness, there's a
despising in spiritual warfare that if we
don't pick it up, we're thinking he
couldn't be that angry with us and hate us.
See, marxism it's.
I'm smiling, but I want to kill you.

(23:33):
Yeah, I want to take you out.
I want to destroy you.

Lara (23:36):
It's like here I am here to help you.
However, I'm not really.

Leon (23:40):
No.

Lara (23:40):
They use that as a cover all the time.

Leon (23:42):
No, so that's why he used the serpent.
He used that because he was very subtle and
this time this animal could talk.
So you got to think what God did when he
cursed this serpent.

Lara (23:55):
It's really amazing because you know most
kids who are attracted to Marxism.
It appeals to the good in human beings.
It appeals, you know, when you say, you say,
well, I mean I don't want people to go
hungry.

Leon (24:06):
Yeah sure, everybody should be able to eat
right and have a home and have an education
and have health care right, but but look
what to say, look what, look what satan did
through the serpent.
He says not.
God said that you shall not eat of the tree
of the knowledge of good and evil.

(24:28):
And she was like, because he was trying to
act like he was her consultant.
And she said, yeah, god said we can have of
every tree, of the God, every tree, but the
tree of the knowledge of good and evil we
cannot eat.
Why not?
He knows, and he's now becoming her
consultant.

(24:49):
He knows that the day you eat of it, you're
going to be just like him, having that
knowledge.
That's why he doesn't want you to eat it.
And now see, everybody can't be your friend,
everybody can't be your consultant, because
they come in the form of help.
He pretended, in through deception, that he
wanted to help her be more like god.

(25:12):
See, that's what we call religion.
What do you mean?
Religion gives you steps.
Do this, do that, do this, and you'll be
better down the road.
She was already like God.

Lara (25:30):
So you don't believe in religion?

Leon (25:33):
I put religion in its proper place, which
is Is it keeps you always looking for
something when you really already have it
oh yes, that's uh, you know.

Lara (25:49):
So marxism is a type of religion of course,
yes, which is why you're not allowed to
have any other religion, because they got
to be the only dog in town, really, right,
right, because they don't need a competing
religion.
I know luke is going to want to jump in
here.
Wait, I need to tell you this so you know
how I met Luke is because he's a J6er was

(26:12):
pardoned by the president.
Didn't really need the pardon because,
although he was convicted, he hadn't been
sentenced yet, so his charges were just
dismissed.
But you know that man, they wanted him to
go to prison for 20 plus years for assault
with a deadly weapon and a litany of other
charges.

(26:40):
And you know what his crime was what,
praying, what?
Yeah, let him tell you.

Luke (26:45):
Luke, tell Pastor Leon what got you into
all sorts of trouble on January 6th.
So, Pastor Benjamin, my father's also a
minister.
He does prison ministry.
So I hadn't been to prison until other than
sharing the gospel, until January 6th.
But so you know, that day I was, you know,
I was as a filmmaker.
I was there interviewing people and
documenting the day, and then, as I was

(27:06):
going back to my hotel to meet up with my
buddy, I didn't know what was going on at
the Capitol.
It was late afternoon and these three guys
came running up and said people are dying
inside the Capitol, we need patriots, which
came across very odd because they were half
a mile or so from the Capitol.
So I felt prodding from the Holy Ghost, the
Holy Spirit, to go and I'd been warned that

(27:27):
there could be an operation, potentially a
false flag operation, and it just seemed
out of whack discernment, the Spirit, and I
heard the Lord say go up there and try to
deescalate.
So I walked up there literally.
As I got closer, the whole crowd was
singing Amazing Grace.
And it was.
I walked up there literally.
As I got closer, the whole crowd was
singing Amazing.
Grace and it was beautiful, but it was this

(27:49):
you know the polar opposite was going on,
with projectiles firing into the crowd of
you know these people that were just
peacefully, literally singing Amazing Grace,
and you know there was the same line people
are dying, we need patriots.
And so then they gassed the West Terrace
tunnel and there was the same line people
are dying, we need patriots.
And so then they aghast the West Terrace

(28:10):
Tunnel and it was chaos and pandemonium.
It was like the whole day I've described is.
It was a revival meets, like a 4th of July
celebration.
It was beautiful and you felt the spirit of
God and it was joy, and it wasn't about all
about Trump.
It was about freedom and standing up,
because we know what our, our freedom comes

(28:31):
from God alone, not from any man, as you've
spoken about Like.
So, anyway, as I got closer, they they had
gassed the tunnel or pushing people down
the stairs, and so I was.
I went up there and was trying to.
I hear women crying.
I can't breathe, I can't breathe, and so I
was trying to help people and I couldn't
help because there's three or four piles of

(28:52):
people deep, and so I just said everyone,
stop and pray, stop and pray and yelled it
at the top of my lungs.
And then I led prayer right there on the
stairs because I believe people are gonna
perish from being on top of my lungs.
And then I led prayer right there on the
stairs because I believed people were gonna
perish from being on top of each other.

Lara (29:09):
Well, and you were right, because Roseanne
Boyland was dying right there and then she
got beaten, savagely beaten by a Capitol
Police Officer, Lila Morris, who we still
can't figure out why.
I mean, Roseanne Boyland is really the
second woman who died on January 6th that
most of the country still doesn't even know
her name.

Luke (29:28):
And I heard the Lord.
It calmed down for a second.
I heard the Lord.
There were a group of men, there was like
we need to keep it from escalating again.
And I heard the Lord say Luke, go, stand in
the gap.
And I also heard that there was a woman
down at the top of the stairs.
So I walked up there as peacefully as I
could and one second before I arrived at
the front of the top of the stairs, a

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crutch was thrown at my feet.
So I got up there and Lila Morris attacked
me and I was charged with assaulting her,
even though she said on the stand I never
touched her.
But she beat me and continued to beat
unconscious Roseanne Boylan.
So I picked up the crutch and I said, in
the name of Jesus, lord, please stop this.
And I was being sprayed and hit.
And I said you know the Matthew verse, guys,

(30:12):
a family divided will not stand.
There's people that need help, you know,
and continue to get beat, but that you know
that act that my literally FBI photo was me
saying stop and pray and I was on the most
wanted FBI list And-.

Lara (30:26):
They made him the face of the insurrection.

Luke (30:29):
Wow.

Lara (30:30):
How many charges did you have, Luke?

Luke (30:32):
Initially, yeah, I had 10 charges and then-.

Lara (30:36):
Including interfering with police and the
line of duty and assault with a deadly
weapon Assault with a deadly weapon like
one pound crutch, and so it was.

Luke (30:45):
but I know that the Lord called me there,
Like a lot of the J6ers, we know that we
were called that day and Jesus has worked.
Even if some people didn't know the Lord,
you know before they have found him through
prison and through suffering.
So I know that God works, you know, as he
says, works all things for the good of
those who love him and are called according
to his purpose.
And I knew he would redeem me at one point.

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And the Lord did tell me three months
before well, you're talking about the Holy
Spirit speaking to you that he was
revealing.
there's a revelation coming A curtain was
dropping, nothing's new under the sun, but
he was revealing Luke 8, 17 moment that all
things that are being hidden is gonna be
revealed in this coming season, moment that
all things that are being hidden is going
to be revealed in this coming season.

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And he needs his washman to stand up and
speak out.
And he's going to take me through a very
dark storm.
I was going to lose my business, my family
were going to turn on me, my friends were
going to drop me and it would be very
painful, but he'd give me a platform to
share his truth and expose the darkness and
redeem me in his time, and he would be with
me, but it'd be very dark, but it wouldn't
last long, and so I don't believe this is a
coincidence.
We're here and he does work all things, and

(31:50):
I wanna hear what your opinion, I guess, is
of we could have gone two very different
paths if we'd gone with.
I feel like God is giving us a second
chance and I'd love to hear your opinion.
You know, I know your ministry is called
the Remnant and you know, I know the
meaning of that, but just you know, I think

(32:11):
that God is, he's given us a, you know, you
know.
It says, when you call my name, you know,
and he will turn the script, he'll flip the
script.

Leon (32:21):
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
I think, luke, the book of Joel is coming
up to me right now, just really the
prophecies of the last days, because it
talks about the moon turning to red.
And we see a red moon, we go and we watch

(32:44):
it until it gets real small and then it
turns back white again.
But they do all these signs, you know all
these signs.
And then, uh, he calls for a fast, he calls
for the weeping, the wailing.
They call it the wailing woman, the woman

(33:05):
to weep.
And not that wailing is weakness, no,
wailing is a sign of extending yourself, so
that God can know I'm here, all I am, all I
am, and when you cry out, whenever Israel

(33:28):
would cry out, god would come in and rescue
them.
So it's like a baby A baby expects.

Lara (33:35):
Yeah that when they cry out, you're going
to come running you better come and get me,
I sure did in our witness, he is the
strongest.

Leon (33:44):
So.
So the j, the j6, was to bring back that
understanding what they meant for evil, god
meant for good.
You, you're talking about a wailing and a
crying out, that america had to go through
a mourning, a fasting, even though it was
almost four years, but for God to come in.

(34:06):
Are you kidding me?
Did not God show up?
It wasn't just MAGA, it wasn't just too big
to rig, it was God showing up because his
children cried out and no one else could
come.
But daddy, amen, true daddy, oh, a real
father.

(34:29):
You know the psychological thing that
happens when babies cry out and no one
comes oh no.
After a while they stop crying, oh no,
because they they're saying psychologically,
no one's coming oh, leon, that's.

Lara (34:43):
That's just incredible for me that you said
that, because I have a friend.
He was a filmmaker wonderful filmmaker has
just done an incredible movie about vaccine
injured, um matt guthrie, and he showed me
a message once he had a friend working on
counter-trafficking and he showed me a
message written on a wall of a place in

(35:03):
Houston where children were being
trafficked.
And I believe, as far if memory serves
correct, would it what this one child had
written across the wall was Nobody came.

Leon (35:16):
Right, right.
One of the things about the jews the jews
knew how to cry, they and, and so the
prophet was just reminding them blow the
trumpet in zion.
So I got my oh I want to hear that trumpet
there.

Lara (35:31):
It's really called a shofar you have your
shofar and I brought my shofar with me.

Leon (35:36):
So it says blow ye the trumpet in zion and
sound an alarm in my holy mountain.
Let all inhabitants of the land tremble,
for the day of the Lord cometh, for it is
nigh at hand.
A day of darkness and of gloominess, a day
of clouds and of thick, thick darkness as
the morning spread upon the mountains.
A great people and a strong that there had

(35:56):
not been ever like, neither shall be more
after it, even the years of many
generations.
It was talking about how israel would, uh,
finally, after king david not through david,
but through solomon's uh reign, the, the
kings would be split and divided and then
ultimately scattered.
And he was telling them all right, you guys

(36:18):
don't get it right, so you're going to
still keep ignoring my will, my purposes,
what I say is right and what I say is evil.
You're going to keep ignoring me.
So I'm going to send this great army, and
you could imagine the people going no,
don't do it, but God says no, I'm going to

(36:39):
do it, but god says no, I'm going to do it.
I'm going to show you that I am god.
And so you could imagine those horns you're
gonna do it now, aren't?
you, and so this is going off.

(37:08):
And then, god, you woke Honey up, I know.

Luke (37:10):
And that takes skill.
I tried to blow one of those that takes
skill and he's going through the prophet
and the prophet's just going off on him.

Leon (37:17):
He's just going off on him saying it's
going to happen, it's going to happen.
God and the prophet's just going off on him.
He's just going off on him saying it's
going to happen, it's going to happen, God
is done, God is done.
And then he starts to tell him all right,
he says they're going to be like chariots,
they're going to come in.
This is a true invasion.
This happened to Israel to finally scatter
all Israel.

(37:40):
And it's really talking about how
Nebuchadnezzar would come in and totally
just shatter everything and Israel will be
under then.
It will be under the Caesars.
And he's saying get ready, it's going to
happen.
But in the middle of that, all of that
invasion, all the scattering, he tells them
still to rend your heart and not your
garments and turn unto the Lord.
See, even in judgment, God's to God's

(38:01):
people, that is still an opportunity to
turn back to him.
This is what happened to America.
It was being judged and God is saying I
don't care, I'm going to let the elections
be stolen, I'm going to let the walls go
down.
No more borders.
I'm going to let the invasion go down.
No more borders.
I'm going to let the invasion happen, Great

(38:22):
armies are going to come in, but still, in
all that, turn to me.

Lara (38:26):
Amen, I'm going to let people go to prison.

Leon (38:30):
I'm going to let things happen.

Luke (38:31):
I'm going to let the darkness reign.

Leon (38:33):
I'm going to let the moon turn to red and
there will be no more.
The sun will give not its light.
We call that an eclipse in the natural but
he tells him who knoweth if he will rip, if
he will return and repent and leave a

(38:53):
blessing behind him, even a meat offering
and a drink offering unto the lord, your
god.
So blow the trumpet in zion.
Sanctify fast, call the solemn assembly a
solemn assembly.
Gather the people, sanctify the
congregation, assemble the elders, gather
the children and those that suck the
breasts.
Let the bridegroom go forth of his chamber
and the bride out of her closet.

(39:14):
Let the priest, the minister of the lord,
weep between the porch and the altars.
See, we did it and didn't even know we were
doing it.
And what the enemy thought was oh, look at
those weak Americans crying unto God, ah,

(39:35):
shut up.
Singing the national anthem.
I went to the J6s and came there, where
they were, and you would hear them singing
the national anthem.
The gulag, yeah, every night.

Luke (39:45):
I went to the gulag Every night.

Leon (39:47):
I was there.
Yeah, I was there on some occasions and
we're praying and doing the Star Spangled
Banner and the Pledge of Allegiance.

Lara (39:56):
I was there a couple times too, yeah.
And and the Pledge of Allegiance.
I was there a couple times too, yeah, and
they're still singing it at nine o'clock
every night.

Leon (40:01):
And they didn't realize.
This was the cry, the weeping between the
porch and the altar.
See the altar.
The porch was, of course, solomon's porch,
the way the temple, you know, but it had
different sections, you know.
And the altar, you know, and, and the altar,
of course, was to do sacrifices.

(40:23):
Hmm, and this all translates into the new
Testament where it says brethren, I beseech
you, by the mercies of God, that you
present your bodies a living sacrifice.
So what the J six has created was an altar
right there in the Gula, and they were the
living sacrifice.

Lara (40:39):
So what the j6 has created was an altar
right there in the gul and they were the
living sacrifice and they were the living
sacrifices that god now would accept wow
that's amazing.

Leon (40:50):
God accepted it and our enemies thought
you're wasting your time.
Stop that singing of the national anthem,
stop that prayer, stop that pleasure of
allegiance, because no one's listening to
you.
But, au contraire, who would know?
That's what the prophet said If God will

(41:11):
leave a blessing and repent and return.

Lara (41:15):
But he did.
He did, and that blessing was in the form
of Donald Trump and JD Vance and all the
others right, general Michael Flynn yes,
all of them.

Leon (41:26):
Yes.

Lara (41:27):
Who get attacked all the time.
Yes and stand the course.

Luke (41:32):
And Laura Logan Come on, and yep Come on.

Lara (41:35):
One of many, one of many, leon, you know
what I want to ask you.

Leon (41:42):
I feel the Holy Ghost right now.

Lara (41:43):
Do you?

Leon (41:45):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah,
hallelujah, I'm telling you you're opening
up a portal right now for an ask.
Right now for an ask.
Remember, esther, when she said I need you
to fast because the king hasn't called me
for a long time and I don't know, because

(42:06):
if you don't call me and I go in, it could
be off with your head.
And Mordecai said well, you better find a
way, sister.
You better find a way because if you don't
do it, god's going to raise up somebody
else and going to destroy your whole family.
So, as I said, all right, mordecai, pray
for me, because I got to find a way how to
do this.
And she did, and she got the favor of the

(42:28):
king and he pointed his scepter.
This was going on right now.
I feel the Holy Spirit through the Lord,
jesus Christ and the father going what do
you want, laura?
Ask, know, of course.
Esther said well, hey, put this banquet
together and invite Haman.
And Haman thinking, oh, I'm going to get
honored, I'm going to get, I'm going to get

(42:50):
reward.
And he didn't know, oh, yeah, oh, that
Esther had set him up.
And that's what I feel the Lord is doing
with you right now Setting up Haman.
Wow, yeah, because our enemies they right
now, where we are right now as a nation,
our enemies are thinking that we still got

(43:12):
them.
Yeah, but God is setting up a banquet.

Lara (43:17):
Yeah.

Leon (43:18):
Oh, laura, yes, he is.
He's setting up a banquet, yeah, oh.

Lara (43:19):
Laura, yes, he is.

Leon (43:20):
He's setting up a banquet and these idiots
think the banquet is to honor them.
But remember what David said he prepares a
table before me in the presence of my
enemies.

Lara (43:32):
Yes, Lord.

Leon (43:32):
That's the setup.
That's the setup.
Flips the script.
He flips the script.
America's about to see a flip.
Yes, Lord.

Lara (43:35):
That's the setup.

Leon (43:36):
That's the setup Flips the script.
He flips the script.
America's about to see a flip, wow, yeah.
And people such as yourself and many others
who are not afraid to go into and say all
right, god, if you're going to save America,
or, in this case, esther, if you're going
to save my people.

Lara (43:57):
Yes.

Leon (43:58):
You better show me, you better show me, you
better, you better show me.
And so this, this is the banquet.

Lara (44:10):
You know what I want?
I want the truth about the children.
I want it to stop.
I want wealthy people, powerful people,
evil people, whoever they are, criminals,
people who pay to rape children and torture
them and murder them.

(44:30):
I want them to stop and I want them to be
held accountable.
That's what I want.
I want there to be nowhere for them to hide,
nowhere for them to go.
I want there to be no conversation about.
Maybe this is true, maybe that is true.
No, I want the whole truth and I want every
single one of them.

(44:51):
God said vengeance is mine, said the Lord.
But he also said that the sinner can repent
right Even up to the moment you're on the
cross, the moment of death.
You can still repent.
But what did the wicked do?
They spit in the eyes of God.

(45:12):
I want God to deal with the wicked.
It's not for you or for me or anybody else,
but I want it to stop.
Not for you or for me or anybody else, but
I wanted to stop the fact that children are
taken every day.
Right now, as we're sitting here right now,
we're talking about God and we're praying,
and all that Right now, in this moment,
god's children are being sold and tortured

(45:35):
and raped, and I know I was raped for about
40 minutes, gang raped.
I'm not emotional because I can't handle
that.
That's not why.
It's because God showed me what 40 minutes

(45:56):
of hell is like.
God showed me what 40 minutes of hell is
like.
These children go through years of it 40
minutes compared to waking up every day,
and that's your reality Every night.
I've talked to girls who were being
trafficked while they were being trafficked,
who told me I said what happens when you're
sick?
It doesn't matter.

(46:17):
What happens when you're sick, it doesn't
matter.
What happens when you're exhausted, it
doesn't matter.
Seven days a week, leon.
There are foreign terrorist organizations,
formerly known as cartels, coming into this
country, bringing in girls 20, 30, 40, 50
girls at a time from countries like
Venezuela, and these girls have
contraception that's been surgically placed

(46:39):
under the skin and they have to be raped.
They have to agree to be raped for five
years in order to get their freedom.
Is that the price of the American dream?
Is that it really when you say, but they
came here for a better life?
Is that it so?
The fact that you can be raped over and

(47:00):
over again for five years, that's
acceptable.

Leon (47:07):
That's that weeping here between the porch
and the altar, yeah, and God causes
scenarios to happen to cause that weeping
to be a real, authentic weep, a real crying
out.
And God has a way to get us to cry out to
him, it's just his wisdom.

(47:29):
And when it's a real cry and this is what
happens that he gets satisfied with our
tears.
He gets satisfied when we know there is
nowhere else to go but him, he gets
satisfied.
Yeah, and the word is Abba.

(47:52):
The word means father.
That's the Holy Spirit that is promised to
us, that he gives us.
It's called the spirit of adoption, and no
one thinks America belongs to God, but God
adopted America.
It's a covenant.
And so he sends the Holy Spirit whereby we
cry out Abba, father, father, father.

(48:16):
And he's satisfied with that, and so that's
that's why our deliverance in the eyes of
our enemy is always underestimated.
So when you said that the portal opens now
for God to pour out his spirit and this is

(48:37):
what happened with Esther, so that Haman
would be totally oh the word.
It would be so out of his scope that this
banquet would be for his destruction, the
word is oblivious.
Yes, it would be.
He was completely oblivious.

(48:58):
He was completely, and this is what's going
on in America right now, because I sense in
the Holy Ghost the terrorist cells and
everything that has been set up and all the
different places they think they're greater.

Lara (49:10):
They think they're greater than God they do.

Leon (49:12):
Yeah, yeah.
And so to be oblivious to the fact is what
God does when he pours out his spirit.
Everyone makes that like a churchy thing.
No, that is a kingdom promise that God
heard us, he heard our cry and he pities

(49:34):
our every moan, even the ones that cannot
be uttered.
It says the Holy Spirit helps our
infirmities through moans and groans that
cannot be uttered.
It says the holy spirit helps our
infirmities through moans and groans that
cannot be uttered.
He maketh intercession for us.
So the intercession is also a divine
intervention.
So one helps us, the other exposes the
enemy.
Amen.
So while he's helping us, he's getting that

(49:56):
joker.
Yep, that's why it's called a two-edged
sword, because because it heals and it
reveals.
So the true apocalypse, the word apocalypse,
apocalypto, the book of revelations, is not
destruction, it's what it's a revealing.

Lara (50:19):
Ah, revelation?
Sure yeah, but it's full of apocalyptic
visions.

Leon (50:26):
But right there in the interim before that
last chapter.
Yes 22, where the saints go marching in.
Yes, we got to have this whole disruption
and cultural clashing.
We got to have this disruption and it looks

(50:46):
like it's never in our favor.
Disruption is, it always seems as an
inconvenient time to be disrupted, you know.
But we need that.
We need that to prove that only God can
deliver us.

Lara (51:02):
It's funny that you say this, Leon, because
I've actually done speaking events where
I've told people, if you start to feel
overwhelmed, if you feel like every
direction you turn, there's something else
coming at you and you can't handle it.
I said you're supposed to feel that way
because that's God trying to show you that

(51:25):
you're not the answer.
Hello, he is.

Leon (51:29):
Come on.

Lara (51:30):
That's it.
Is that don't feel overwhelmed.
That's the moment when you should find
peace, because you realize oh okay, I got
to do everything I can do, I've got to do
my part, but in the end, this is bigger
than me, it's bigger than all of us, and
there's only one thing that's bigger than
all of us, and that's God.

Leon (51:49):
Yeah, you're talking about salvation.
Everyone wants salvation to be this
goosebumps feel-good thing, this goosebumps
feel good thing.
There was a man 2 000 years ago.
They got totally marred beyond belief and
beat all night.
It wasn't beautiful.

(52:10):
No, it was not pretty at all no and they
spat on him and they ripped his skin from
him with the cat of nine tails and he tore
his clothes off and and and they
blindfolded him and hit him in the face and
said tell us who hit you j6's.
Come on that, that whole.

(52:31):
They brought in people to pontius, uh, to
pontius pilate uh, but to herod they.
They had a whole jury like a whole trial.
Get it, j6.
They had a whole jury like a whole trial.
Get it, j6?.
They had a whole trial of false accusers
Wow.
And God says America had to go through this

(52:52):
to just get a little glimpse.
Not, though, because Jesus took on all of
our sins.
America, we can't take on all the sins of
the world, but we can sure enough deal with
ours.
And this was what we call a propitiation,
that the Lord used this, even though it

(53:13):
wasn't comfortable, it was inconvenient, it
was a disruption, and we thought everything
was you know, stop the steel.
Jericho March yeah, oh god, I was there.
Come on, stop the steel.
And God says no, america, we're gonna go a
little bit deeper, because that wailing and

(53:34):
weeping, you don't know how much it
satisfies me to know that.
Now we know no one else can deliver, but
god, there's no one like jehovah.
And now, and david sung all these songs.
I mean, there are songs in the book of
psalms that that, all the way up to psalms
150, let everything that have breath praise
the lord.

(53:56):
And he got to the conclusion that, with all
the song, says I will bless the Lord that
is within me, bless his whole.

(54:23):
That was David's conclusion.
Lee name, for he has done great things.
He has done great things.

(54:45):
Bless his holy name.
And so David came to the conclusion I have
nothing else but my breath to bless the
lord.
Yes, let the strings, the instruments,
everything praise ye the lord, and, and,

(55:06):
and so the j6 says, when I saw them at cpac,
the other day it was hallelujah.
I was like you've been in jail for three
and a half years and all you got is a
hallelujah.
He set the captives free.
I said come on, somebody Set some captives
free.
I said God says that's it, that's what I

(55:28):
wanted, that's the prescription.
Amen To America's healing, amen.

Lara (55:33):
You know it was so funny, leon, because I
had seen you.

Leon (55:36):
I feel the Holy Ghost.
All right, right, come on somebody.
And I had to leave.
I didn't want to leave you.

Lara (55:42):
I'm so glad.
And then, and then I found you again at the
end of the day and I said you got us, you
got to see, you had to rush home soon, I
know soon.

Leon (55:49):
As I went over there, I said come on over
and say hello I and I said this ends the
day.
This is is completion.
This is seven.
Seven is number for completion, perfect
number.
This is a seven.
This is a seven moment, hallelujah.
I want to read this verse because it just
hit me Isaiah 6, 13.

Luke (56:10):
Give unto them beauty for ashes, the oil of
joy for mourning, the garment of praise for
the spirit of heaviness.
That they may be called trees of
righteousness, the planting of the Lord.
That he might be glorified, so he allows us
to go through a storm, to weather it,
endure it.
You know, and sometimes I think I've met
many people that have said they've come to

(56:32):
the Lord because they've seen the realness
and truth of evil and so if there's evil
there's gotta be good.
You've seen good in this world and so
they've come to Jesus because of that and
if he allows that and he makes us stronger
and we turn to him and get on our knees and
realize we need a savior, we can't do it on

(56:52):
our own.
So it's a gift.
Suffering and brokenness.
I keep saying this it's a gift if you lean
into the storm and then you appreciate that
sunset and rainbow when it comes, so much
more.
You know that's it.

Leon (57:04):
Yeah, that's it, that's so.
That's the fulfillment of the prophecy in
the book of Joel.
Is that it shall be light, yeah, in the
evening time.
Amen, how do you you know?
Here we are having a full solar eclipse and
the prophet is saying no, it's still light,
still like leon, are you like this at home?

Lara (57:26):
yeah, I'm just wondering what an amazing
father you must be oh, bless you I mean, I
know, your kids are older now my kids.
Kids are older now yeah, how many do you
have?

Leon (57:38):
I have three.
Three I got a 29,.
One going to be 27 in a few weeks.
My birthday is next week.

Lara (57:46):
Happy birthday.

Leon (57:47):
And then I got a 22-year-old going to be 22,
and I got two grandchildren and I know you
love to cook those burgers and watch the
game.
Yeah well, my wife tells me to stay out of
the kitchen for safety reasons.
It's like can't even boil water, right, you

(58:08):
know.
But yeah, maria and I are going on 30, now
34 years of marriage.

Lara (58:16):
Wow.

Leon (58:17):
And laboring together in the lord, um it is.
It is definitely god's, god's blessing that
that's keeping us, you know it's the
blessing yeah, and that's, that's what we
want to open up to america.
And with this show for me being here with

(58:39):
you today, I want America to know that the
blessing is still available.
Daughter, you're just opening up this
portal, I'm telling you.

Lara (58:51):
Right.

Leon (58:53):
I know Even Esau cried out bless me, Father.
Even Esau cried out bless me, Father.
And Jacob said I've already I mean Isaac
said I've already blessed Jacob, I've
already blessed him.
I'll say a few little prayers over you, but

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I've given Jacob, your brother, the
blessing.
You see, this is what's being lined up for
America right now, Not cars, not houses,
not all that stuff.
This is what Marxists think, what the real
spoils are, the blessing.
No, the spoils are just residual of a God

(59:37):
who can do anything.
And what I feel right now is that if
America's open to still receiving the
blessing of a loving, caring, benevolent
God, he's not far from any one of us, lest
we happily feel after him.
That's mentioned in the book of Acts,
because out of one blood we were all
created.
Out of one blood, One blood, All humans

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were created.
Out of one blood.
That thing, Adam Adam was not his name.
Adam means dark earth.
We all came out of one man, Adam meaning
dark earth.
That ought to help a lot of people because,
you know, you got to like a light on earth,
yeah, but we all came out of the same dark

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earth.

Lara (01:00:20):
Oh yes.

Leon (01:00:21):
We're cousins, of course, we're all related,
of course, and so you see how Marxism gets
us to hate each other and to fight each
other and to just division.

Luke (01:00:33):
Segregate each other.

Lara (01:00:34):
Segregation.
Well they look, well they look.
In fact, if you go all the way back to
Lenin, Lenin would send emissaries all over
the world to look for fissures, openings of
division within societies.
And in the United States there's a guy who
actually his emissary to the US wrote a
short book about this and he said he

(01:00:54):
identified race as the fissure in American
society, and obviously it's not the only
one.
South Africa was the same, and in countries
like Algeria they identified Islam because
Islam was the fissure that could be used
there.
Right, because if you look historically at
Algeria, it didn't start out as Islamic.
And so when I was a young journalist, you

(01:01:15):
know I would see these stories come over
the wire where they'd go in at night and
they'd wipe out an entire village in
Algeria, and you'd think, gosh, like how
could this just be normal, you know, in
this country.
But when you go back and you look at the
history and how the Islamists defeated de
Gaulle and the French and drove them out,
it was that fissure.

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That opening was created by the Marxists
and exploited by the Marxists.

Leon (01:01:40):
Oh, that's good.

Lara (01:01:41):
Yes, you know people well.
They disregard Africa a lot of the time and
obviously, as an African, even though they
don't like me to say it, because you know,
because I got the wrong color skin, but
sorry, that's where I was born and raised
Well, well.

Leon (01:01:57):
I had to do that Baptist way Well.

Lara (01:02:00):
But you know whether you're from Africa,
Leon.
You know where the first Islamic Caliphate
was established.
Where in Nigeria, Osman Caliph, Osman bin
Fodio.
He fought the first jihad and established
the Caliph in the north of the Caliphate,
in the north of Nigeria, and so you know it
was so interesting to me.

(01:02:21):
You look at it all the years later, where,
when the Christian president good luck
Jonathan is running for office and Obama,
the first black president of the United
States of America, has never been to
Nigeria, the most populous country in
Africa, who does he send in his second term?
He sends John Kerry During the election,

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when Nigeria's Christian president is
running against an Islamic military man who
had actually attempted a coup before.
And where does he send John Kerry?
Not to the Christian capital of the country
in the south, but to the original capital
of the Islamic caliphate in the north where

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Osman bin Fodio was the caliph.
Why did Obama do that?
This is a question that we've never
addressed and I bring it's.
Actually it's amazing how God does this,
because it brings me to something that's
really been on my heart and I wanted to
raise with you.
It's a little bit of an ambush, to be

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honest, but I know you can handle anything.
Is that in Nigeria today?
Part of the reason I raised this is that
there has been a genocide of Christians
taking place there since 9-11.
Of Christians taking place there since 9-11.
On the very day that 9-11 took place in the
United States, before those planes flew
into the World Trade Center, a group of

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Islamists with the same slogans, the same
flag, the same ideology, the same
organization right, these are essentially
the same people went into a Christian
village along the north of Nigeria, because
Nigeria is split almost 50-50 between the
north and the south, the Muslim north and
the Christian south, and along that divide,

(01:04:05):
across the center of the country, in those
isolated rural villages where many
Christians live, there has been a genocide
for more than 20 years.
There's over 100,000 Christians killed, and
I say genocide because it's accompanied by
a cleansing of the land.
That first village that was taken on 9-11

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was set up as a command post for the
Islamists.
Hundreds of Christians were killed.
Not a single Christian has ever set foot in
that village, ever again, and it was on the
high ground.
So now it has been overlooked in the
surrounding area and it has been used as
the command and control center to massacre

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Christian men, women and children.
I saw a video that we can't show because
it's so horrific of a young Christian girl,
very pregnant, and they were taking out the
baby while they were cutting off her head.
And you know the.
The news was that they just beheaded um
christians in a village in the former

(01:05:09):
democratic republic of congo, which is not
that far away, um 70 people murdered in a
church.
This has been happening, happening all over
Nigeria for, I mean, for more than 20 years.
And where is the church?
Where is the Vatican?
Where are the faithful?

(01:05:30):
Where are the Christians around the world,
your people?
There's a genocide happening on our watch
and, as this Catholic priest, father
Patrick Dubois, amazing man, as he said to
me once, we love to build museums for
genocide, we love to build statues and we
come together and we give awards and we say

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never again, never again.
But why is it that, when the genocide is
still happening and we have?
a chance to do something about it.
We never do why?

Leon (01:06:04):
I think you're bringing a valid point about.
If we can get rid of one word in this
situation, the word is hope, and if I can
just get rid of any sense of hope because
these territories are all surrounding the
very hope of Israel I just got to say it

(01:06:28):
like I'm sensing what the Holy Spirit is
saying.
I want to surround everything about what
God is doing in the earth.
I want to surround it with gloom and doom
and despair, neglect, if I can put that
hope.

(01:06:49):
The Bible says hope deferred makes the
heart sick.
So if there's a saying Peter mentioned this
in the book of Peter that in the last days
they're going to be mockers and gainsayers
saying, hey, where's the Lord's coming?

Lara (01:07:05):
He's not.
He's not here yet.
Where's your God now?
Where is?

Leon (01:07:08):
he?
Where is he?
He's not here yet.
You know, and Peter's remind them, they
said that around days of Noah too.

Lara (01:07:18):
And then they found out, and they, they
found out.
I think that's called something like that.
Yeah, they found out.

Leon (01:07:25):
But conspiracy theorists drowned yeah, yeah,
all those, yeah, yeah.
So just as in the days of Noah, so shall it
be in the coming of the Lord.
They were we're going to drown.
No, no, well, in Noah's day they don't
preach it.
You just have to understand what was going

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on.
He was building this thing.
That took literally 150 years or so, and
they go.
What are you doing?

Lara (01:07:55):
Come on, man.
Oh yeah, for the first hundred years,
noah's, like you know, it's gonna rain you
see how silly the church looks in the last
days?

Leon (01:08:08):
yeah, you see how silly the enemy wants us
to look in the last days.
So all the massacres, the killing, the
genocide, everything to get rid, to get rid
of hope, so that these scoffers, these we
call them prognosticators, you know, like
the same balance in tobias when nehemiah
was building the wall oh, that ain't gonna
work, even a fox to get on and knock that

(01:08:28):
wall over.
You know, fox is a little light, little
creature, yeah, so they're basically saying
even the weight of a fox will knock your
wall over.
Well, all of these, what is going on?
What you just said?
the genocide, the killing, the massacres,
everything is to take away our hope that
there is no messiah, and this is the hope

(01:08:49):
for israel, that one day the messiah will
come and restore all things.
But it just, it just gets worse and worse,
like even with the temple mount.
There's a, there's like a islamic dome on
top of the wailing wall, the temple mount
where the new temple is supposed to be
built.
You can imagine what's what's it going to
look like when that dome gets removed and

(01:09:12):
the temple gets rebuilt.
The enemy always has to come and attack our
hope.
We just won one of the greatest elections
of all time.
Don't you think they're going to and attack
our hope?
We just won one of the greatest elections
of all time.
Don't you think they're going to work on
our hope?
They're going to make sure that every
airplane that crashes now is something you
know, everything.
The media is spinning everything to take
away America's hope and the hope around the

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world.

Lara (01:09:35):
Okay, I hear you, but that still doesn't
explain or absolve right, it doesn't.
Christians and churches and out faithful
lead.

Leon (01:09:44):
You know, leaders of faith, right for
allowing it to happen, being silent about
it, doing nothing about it well remember,
um uh, what's going on right now and why
they don't want guys like trump in office
and guys like Cash Patel and Dan Bongino.

Lara (01:10:02):
Oh yeah.

Leon (01:10:05):
Because now the hope can be answered.
And when you have wicked people in charge,
the Bible says when the wicked reign, the
people mourn, but when the righteous reign,
the people rejoice.
And everybody wants to know what's this
rejoicing all about?
The rejoicing is because the evil person

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got caught, exposed and got judged.
Judged, yeah, the haman.
You opened this up.
I'm gonna.
I'm to let you know.
You opened it up.
The Hamans of America are now going to be
judged, but people are still being murdered.

(01:10:46):
I know.

Lara (01:10:47):
Christians are still being murdered for
their faith, so what?
Are we going to do about?

Leon (01:10:51):
it, when this thing starts to happen.

Lara (01:10:53):
In other words, what are you going to do
about it?
What am I going to do?

Leon (01:10:56):
about it.
I'm telling you, one of the things that we
as a church has to do is get back to just
being the church again and going in and
rolling up the sleeves.
I mean I like alligator shoes and nice
suits and everything, but this is time we
got to put our Nikes on.
We got to you, don't?

Lara (01:11:15):
have alligator shoes.

Leon (01:11:17):
Well, you know I got some leather shoes,
but you know I don't.
I'm saying some people think that church is
all about the dress.

Lara (01:11:25):
Yeah, it's not, it's not, it's not.

Leon (01:11:29):
It's not about the, and I'm an apostle and
I'm a bishop.
So I have the cassock and the, the miter.
You know, I don't have the miter, but I
have a chupa.
It's the hat you wear, like the pope.
You know, I have that, I have the cross, I
have the you know ring and all but.
But people want church to be the dress
right.

(01:11:49):
No, no, church is the hands, the feet and
the feet and the eyes of the lord jesus, of
jesus christ, amen.
And now to mobilize that body again.
It's called the matter of fact, the body of
christ, not the guy that wears a nice suit.
It's called the body of christ and the word
is occupy and we are we.

(01:12:11):
I believe a true revival is not, you know,
speaking in tongues all day, rolling,
shouting, rolling around, you know, and and
and feeling relieved.
A true revival gets you back into
repossessing what was stolen.
We in the israel it calls.
It's called a jubilee, jubilee year.

(01:12:33):
America needs to experience understanding
what it means to get back what the enemy
has stolen from you.
In the book of Joel it's, it's.
I keep going back to this he said I'm gonna
restore the years of the canker worm, the
palm worm the locusts what they have eaten
up.
This is all about the pouring out of God's
Spirit and when he begins to raise up men,

(01:12:55):
like in Old Testament, we could say David,
samson, jephthah, deborah, you know the
Esther, you know all of those that fought I
was just studying the judges and you know
all these guys that had to come to the
rescue Gideon.
Gideon was hiding behind the wine press and

(01:13:17):
the angel goes, thou mighty man of valor.
He goes what?
Oh, no, no, no, and somebody's listening
right now.
Whoever's listening.
God's about to call you from hiding behind
a bush.
Amen, wow.

Lara (01:13:33):
Okay, so for all those Christians then, and
all those church leaders all them hiding
behind bushes Hiding behind the bush.
You got to do something now about the
genocide in Nigeria.

Leon (01:13:43):
That's right, hiding behind the bush.

Luke (01:13:45):
Well, pastor Benjamin, let me ask you this
Like we've seen the church, you know,
specifically in 2020, I think we saw, I
mean, a lot of cowardice that were, you
know, giving in to the government right
Closing down their doors to not worship,
and men of God quote unquote that were just,

(01:14:07):
you know, giving in to what big government
was saying.
You know, and I think that to me, the enemy
has infiltrated the doors of the church and
we're seeing now a remnant rise.
There has been lukewarm, a big lukewarm
group in the church, but we're seeing more

(01:14:27):
boldness come out.
Maybe it's because there's a new freedom
that people are speaking out and the
Spirit's coming.
But I want your take on that.
I mean, if Satan could make people lukewarm
and not care about other things, just what
matters to them, then that's what exactly
he wants.
He needs bold men of God to stand up, be

(01:14:48):
loud for the gospel, and I think he's
choosing the wild ones.
I'm one of the wild ones.
I don't fit in the little churchy box, so I
know he's called me and a lot of other men,
but I just want to know what your take on
that is just the church in general, what
you've seen since, you know, specifically
2020.

Leon (01:15:05):
I'm telling you what.
What happened when, when president Trump
had that bullet go, you know and almost
could have, went in his head.
He has, he says he has his favorite chart
went in his head he has.

Lara (01:15:19):
He says he has his favorite chart he said
but what he's really telling?
It's a signal to say I have faith now in
something more than I used to, and and
because he knows he should have been dead,
he knows god kept him alive god kept him
alive.

Leon (01:15:39):
and so now we have that faith in the White
House, the highest office in the world.
Yeah, we have that now in the White House,
the highest office in the world.
The White House is like Mount.
What's the highest peak?
I forget.

Lara (01:15:57):
What's the biggest mountain?
Mount Everest, mount Everest, the White
House.
What's the biggest mountain?
Mount Everest, mount Everest, the.

Leon (01:16:01):
White House is might as well be Mount
Everest, the city on the hill when Noah
landed.
His ship landed on the highest mountain and
they had to come down from that mountain.
And this is where let's pray for President
Trump that his faith comes down from this
mountain and begins to be real faith active.

Lara (01:16:22):
Well, I'm glad you raised that, because I
tell you, one thing that made me really
angry was at the end of his first term,
when all that stuff was going on in
Lafayette Park in Washington DC, the
protests and everything, and as you
remember that Trump and his defense chiefs
and all that million, they left the White
House and they walked across the park and

(01:16:43):
they went to that church.

Leon (01:16:45):
Right.

Lara (01:16:46):
And there was a reason Trump was doing that,
and it was all the churches that were being
burned in Washington DC and it was the
attacks on faith and family and everything
else.
And when he stood there and stood up for uh,
for god people abandoned him right, he had
the bible yeah he had the bible.

(01:17:07):
you remember that?
Yep, yes, and that was a historic place
that he went to.
It was important both in the history of the
united states, but also it was, you know,
very important uh symbol, that he was
standing with God against all the attacks,
because Antifa and these people were
burning the churches.
Essentially, that's a Marxist ideology,

(01:17:29):
that's its own religion, that's against God,
as we talked about, and he was defending
God.
And what did the most of the country do?
They abandoned him.
they let him take the heat, get beaten up
in the newspapers his defense chief said
you know he disavowed they all did, all
those that walked to the president.
I mean these people are disgusting.

Leon (01:17:50):
I'm praying.
You know we're going through this first 100
days and you know we got 19 cabinets
already confirmed appointments yeah, we got
three more to go.

Lara (01:18:00):
How many left to go?
Three?

Leon (01:18:01):
As far as the cabinets, three, but it's
over 1,300 jobs that have to be fulfilled.
They got moving, yeah, we got, and so that
faith office, that office of faith, is not
just a mantelpiece inside the White House.

Lara (01:18:18):
Not just for show.

Leon (01:18:19):
It's not just for show, no, no, it's in
direct correlation of what God did through
the J6ers and everyone else that he heard
us.
It's sort of like what happened when David
lost the ark.
Remember, in the Old Testament, the
Philistines came and got the ark and took
it and they put it up next to their God.
What is it called?
Dagon?

(01:18:39):
It?
And they put it up with next to their god
that uh, what is it called dagon?
And they put, they put it up next to dagon
and came back in and it fell down.
Then they go hey, why is it down?
What's the ark?
Is there, nice and pretty, looking good?
But dagon is falling over.
They put it back up.
Then he cuts off the um, the arms, the arms
gone, and they go all right, come on, let's

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put it back up.
Comes back in there.
Now it takes off the legs.
Now it's nothing but a torso, you see, and
the real idolatry in America right now is
nothing but a torso.
And God is going to continue to torment.
Can I say it like this Our enemies are
being tormented because now, because what

(01:19:20):
happened?
Not only did he knock over Dagon, he gave
them what is called the roids, the little
swelling and they and so so so have mercy.

Lara (01:19:36):
So yeah, please him he said?

Leon (01:19:39):
he said no, no For taking and trying to
steal, and try to steal the ark.
You're going to pay with hemorrhoids.
So what did the Philistines do?
They said we got to do an offering, and so
they created these little gold balls.
This looked like the hemorrhoid and they
offered it to israel.

(01:20:00):
They said look, please take this ark.

Lara (01:20:04):
take it back.

Leon (01:20:05):
We don't want it, we don't, we don't want
it anymore we thought america was right for
marxism, but now we're being tormented,
we're getting the hemorrhoids because you
stole something you should have never put
your hand on.
Yeah, you put your hand on something that
was holy.
America is holy unto the lord.
It's the ark of the covenant and you

(01:20:28):
thought you could just run away with it and
put it next to your gods.
No, not so fast, not so fast.
And so we're seeing the USA people getting
fired, all kind of employees just resigning
and getting fired and doge exposing

(01:20:49):
billions of dollars yeah you see, cuz you
stole something you should have never put
your hands on.
So now I'm going to bring it all up.

Lara (01:21:02):
It's kind of amazing, isn't it?

Leon (01:21:04):
Well, we're just getting started.

Lara (01:21:08):
Yeah.

Luke (01:21:09):
And the idols are falling.
You know, the enemy loves worshiping their
creation.
Right, he elevates the creation and not the
creator.
So you know, we've been living through a
time where everybody's listening to their
influencer, their idol, you know, in
Hollywood, and God is now exposing who they

(01:21:30):
really are.

Leon (01:21:30):
It's so much being exposed that they had to
get rid of Joy Reid.
They were like yeah, we got to get rid of
you.
Yeah, lester holt says I can't even, he
can't even do it.
He can't even do it no more, because it's
so crazy.

Lara (01:21:49):
What they were the propaganda, the
misinformation I know how they sit there
with a straight face.
With a straight face I do not get it, you
know, I just there's.
There's that guy, scott jennings.
I love that guy.
Have you ever listened?

Leon (01:22:02):
to him, they attack him and he just yeah,
and, and they would you know, they got
hemorrhoids.
They're so weak.
They're so weak in the, in the things of
the truth.

Lara (01:22:19):
Yeah, because they're lying, you know,
that's why people would say that Kamala
Harris didn't have a platform.
I'm like, yeah, she had no platform because
all of her lies were falling apart and she
couldn't make up new lies fast enough to
keep those lies going.
So there was no passion, there was no
sincerity, there wasn't anything, because

(01:22:39):
she couldn't even.
The lie was so big at that point she
couldn't even sell it.
She couldn't even sell it.
It was too much even for her and the black.

Leon (01:22:50):
You know the f, the blacks in the community.
I'm voting for trump.
I mean joe.
I say from Dr McGillicuddy To Joe Bug the
Thug.

Lara (01:23:04):
Didn't you start a black manga?

Leon (01:23:06):
We had a thing called Maga Black.

Lara (01:23:07):
Maga Black, that was it.

Leon (01:23:09):
Black, brown and white unite and we went
into the black community and just gave the
argument, put it out there.

Lara (01:23:17):
Yeah.

Leon (01:23:18):
Like Trump did in the first term.
What do you have to lose?
Right and my god, they came out in droves
and you showed me uh pictures, videos.
It was incredible philadelphia, wisconsin,
milwaukee, atlanta.
You know, these we call battleground states

(01:23:38):
Detroit.

Lara (01:23:39):
Yeah.

Leon (01:23:40):
They came out in droves.
And now you know what do we do?
Where do we go from here?
What is?
What is the solution?

Lara (01:23:49):
Well, two things, you know.
One is that it's funny you say that because
people would ask me before the election
what I thought was going to happen.
And I was like I mean Trump's up with black
voters, up with Latino voters, up with
young voters, up with women.
I mean there's no demographic in which his
support hasn't gone up, so how can he lose
the election?
I mean, the people who hate him still hate

(01:24:10):
him.
But look at this.

Leon (01:24:11):
He won all the battleground states.

Lara (01:24:13):
Yeah, and the other thing I want to tell
you is you know, I was talking to a lot of
the J6s when I saw you and a lot of people
I hadn't met before, and a number of them
told me that when they were in prison, you
know because how there's all the gangs
inside and so if you're white, you're
supposed to go with the white gangs, if
you're Latino, you go with the Latinos,
right?

(01:24:33):
And they said that the Proud Boys, a bunch
of them Enrique Tarrio told me this, I
believe or Dominic Pizzola, that the people
that looked after them were the black gangs,
the brothers.
Wow, the brothers came to them and said man,
we want to thank you for what you did,
standing up for this country, standing up

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for all of us.
We love Trump.
We'll take care of you.

Luke (01:24:56):
Come on somebody.
Yes, I can say in my time in prison I had
the.
The brothers were my, my brothers.
So yeah, they.
They actually saw me on tmz when I was
getting checked in and they said coffee.

Leon (01:25:10):
Are you coffee man, the crushed cowboy?

Luke (01:25:14):
and I was like, yeah, that was me, he's me.
He was like we got your back, man, we got
your back.
And so they looked after me and they said
you know, they were trying to tell me that.
You know, most of the time you have to join
one of these gangs.
He's like but we got your back, man.
I was like good, I'm just walking with the
Holy Spirit.
I want to be friends with everybody.

Leon (01:25:40):
But it was, yeah, I worked out out with
them and that was the brothers that stood
by me.
You see that I, I, I I want to see and I'll
every black person now leave the democratic
party.
I know that's, I know I'm asking a lot, but
until there's reef reformation, they need
to be free from it.
It's, it's, it's.
I call it the great exodus.
Yeah, it has to be freed from the Trump
administration.

Lara (01:25:59):
I call it the great exodus, yeah.

Leon (01:25:59):
It has to be an exodus unless they can
reform and do better.
But their leadership now from Gavin Newsom
to all the rest are just talking crazy.
They haven't gotten it yet.

Lara (01:26:15):
No, they haven't gotten it yet.
It's just incredible, even watching their
people on TV, the things that they're
saying that Trump is decimating the
constitution and good old Scott Jennings is
like which part.
They can't say anything.
Because what are you talking about?
The president is the commander in chief.
He's in charge of the military, so you

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can't act as if this, the government, is
some kind of amorphous thing that with its
own life.
You know.
The government's not answerable to the
president and the military's not answerable
to the commander-in-chief.
And they must resist.
Okay, that's called treason, sedition,
subversion 18, us code chapter whatever.
It is right.
I mean that that's a crime, right, in fact,

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because he's elected to lead and that means
his policies.
That's what people voted for and he's the
only one.

Leon (01:27:07):
I found out, too, that the whole united
states had congress.

Lara (01:27:11):
The whole united states doesn't elect
congress that's right he's the only elected
person that the entire country has to vote
for.

Leon (01:27:17):
That's right, he's the only one.

Lara (01:27:20):
That's right.

Leon (01:27:21):
So America has spoken.

Lara (01:27:23):
America has spoken and they better chip
chop right as fast as they're moving.
I mean, there's midterms coming up and
whatever else they're planning, whatever
else they're planning, but there's not a
moment to lose.
You know, I think I told you this, leon,
the night after the election.
I woke up in the middle of the night and
I'm usually exhausted by the time I go to

(01:27:45):
bed, so I just collapse and I don't ever
wake up in the middle of the night.
But I woke up in the middle of the night
and I had this, another uncomfortable
feeling, anxiety.
And I don't get anxiety a lot because I'm
so, you know'm so purpose-driven, always,
always have been all my life.
And so there's, you know, when you're

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really purpose-driven.
It's no time, very rare, for there to be
time for anxiety.
So I wake up like this in the middle of the
night and I'm thinking why do I feel this
way?
Like, like, what's going on?
Like I should be relieved because you know
the Marxist regime, the globalists, the

(01:28:26):
global cult, the Satanists, they're done
right and this is a chance now.
This is a chance to fight for what's good,
to fight for God, to fight for the country,
and I should be relieved and happy.
But I was just filled with this terrible,
terrible sense of dread that, having been
delivered this victory at the hands of God,

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america would turn its back again.

Leon (01:28:53):
You know it's a pattern in the Bible Every
time a judge died, Israel would go back and
do the same stuff over again.

Luke (01:29:01):
See, Well, yeah, we'll talk about prophecy.
I mean we talked about.
I mean, do you believe we're in the last
hours?

Leon (01:29:07):
of the last days, I can tell you where we
are right here in the book of Acts, where
the church is.

Luke (01:29:16):
Well, I've got that verse pulled up from,
up from.
Well, he does say he's going to put an
outpouring of the holy spirit in the last
days right yeah, it's the outpouring of the
holy spirit.

Leon (01:29:26):
That's where we are right now and his favor
and the church is supposed to learn the
holy spirit.
Jesus said I'm gone, but I will not leave
you what Comfortless, so I'm going to send.
He calls it another comforter.

Luke (01:29:43):
He says Acts 2.17,.
In the last days, god says I will pour out
a spirit on all my people.
Your sons and daughters will prophesy, your
young men will see visions and old men will
have dreams.

Leon (01:29:56):
That's where we are.
I know people want to race to revelations
and see the mark of the beast and all of
that.
That'll take care of itself.
Right, because it says that the church
never took the mark.
Go read it.
He was given power over everyone, the weak,
the old, the young, the rich, the poor.

(01:30:17):
But the proof was the test was herein lies
the patience of the saints.
So that will take care of itself.
We are to receive this Holy Spirit and get
to every creature, whoever's left, and give
them the good news.

(01:30:39):
It's called the gospel, but it's good news.
The word is evangelion.
We get the word evangelize, but it's not
trying to invite them to church, it's to
tell them the kingdom is here and good news
is that if you're broke, you don't have to
be broke no more If you're sick.
you don't have to be sick anymore.

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It's good news.

Lara (01:31:04):
Okay, when is this happening again?
This is happening, especially the broke
part.

Leon (01:31:09):
It's happening right now, right now, right
now.
It's amazing, isn't it?
And God tells us Jesus' message was repent,
for the kingdom of God has arrived.

Luke (01:31:22):
And think about it In Mago Day.
We were made in the image of God.
We are His lightbearers on earth to share,
to be the salt and light for others around
us, to pour His Spirit on others.
Let His Spirit come out of us and it's a
gift, the greatest gift we can give someone.
We're not gonna take any of this.
There's a George Strait song that says I've

(01:31:44):
never seen a hearse with a luggage rack.

Leon (01:31:46):
You know we're not going to take any of
this with us, but we can take others that
we love with notice what philip did when he
came down to samaria.
Samaria was where jesus met the woman at
the well, told her how many husbands she
had, everything, how many men she had, and
when she have now is not her husband.
She's like come and see a man.
He told me my whole life and she ended up
evangelizing Samaria to the point where

(01:32:06):
people started to say come, and he wanted
to keep him there and make him king.

Lara (01:32:14):
Yeah.

Leon (01:32:14):
Right, because this guy is awesome.
But he says, no, that's not what I want to
give you.
I want to give you the Holy Spirit, because
the Holy Spirit is what Adam lost, the
first one.
He lost the dominion, the rule over the
earth, and once you get the Holy Ghost,
you're in charge again Over the whole earth,

(01:32:39):
not just over a company.
The Holy Spirit left the planet when Adam
fell.

Luke (01:32:50):
And Christ brought it back.
Christ brought it back.
And so everyone he says you'll do greater
things than I.
Oh God, you'll do greater things than I.

Leon (01:32:59):
And so this thing about Through the Holy
Spirit, people not understanding the role
of the Holy Ghost, is where the enemy does
his best marketing.
Amen, yep.

Lara (01:33:10):
What do you mean by that, Leon?
He puts out commercials.

Leon (01:33:13):
There's no Holy Spirit, there's no
redemption of God putting you back in
charge, charge of what?
Yeah, this earth is about to be destroyed.
No, that's not what the Bible teaches.
This earth is about to be destroyed.
No, that's not what the bible teaches.
This earth is going to be renewed.
That's totally different than destroyed.
It's going to be a new heavens and a new
earth.

(01:33:33):
That's totally different than nothing's
going to exist and we're trying to get us
to leave the planet we're eternal beings.

Luke (01:33:42):
A physical journey, you know.
So if you don't fear death, you trust that
a sovereign God is providential.
He's going to provide for us, laura,
provide for this show.
He's already doing that.
We're already seeing miracles.
So we just have to trust in the unknown.
That's where our faith comes in, right.
That's where the Holy Spirit comes in.

Lara (01:34:00):
So worst paying job in America right now
they're working day and night.

Leon (01:34:09):
Someone made this t-shirt talking about.
The pay is okay, but the benefits are out
of this world.
That's not really true Jesus came to bring
the benefits back to the planet.
Amen.
The Holy Ghost is your benefits package,
the ultimate comforter too.
You hear that that is your benefits package,
the ultimate comforter too, you know.

Lara (01:34:25):
You hear that.
You hear that that's your benefits package
okay, don't come to me.
I don't want to hear it.
It's between you and God.
The pastor said so.
We even got Keith.
Keith is the voice of reason.
People don't know Keith because he's the
silent one, but we even got the voice of

(01:34:46):
reason.
People don't know keith because because
he's the silent one, but uh, the we even
got the voice of reason to react to that
one, because I don't know how many nights
he's gone without sleep already.
Oh god, it's no sleep, no pay.
Oh god, yeah, there's no competition for
this job that that's.

Leon (01:34:57):
That's why, when we start to learn what the
word says about restoration, we uh the word
luke 18.
The word is prayer.
Prayer is not a religious activity, it's a
government activity it means to petition.

Lara (01:35:11):
It means to bring your case before the
judge I thought I was doing well when I was
praying though.

Leon (01:35:16):
The woman said someone stole my pocketbook
and took all my money.
Go get them.
And the judge said no, I'm time for you.
But she kept on coming.
I said someone stole.
You know, like harry, someone stole my
pocketbook and I want it all back.
And she kept going to the judge and he's

(01:35:38):
like no, but that woman kept on coming
continually till it wore him out.
He said you know what?
I can't stand you and I hate everything
about you and I hate god.
But I'm going to give you what you want.
I'm going to go get that guy, whoever it
was that took your pocketbook, and I'm
going to make him pay.

(01:35:58):
It says in luke 18 and shall not god, who
is much better than the unjust judge,
avenge his elect, speedily though he be
along with them?
And people just miss that when you.
This is why in the First Amendment is
called the right to redress, the right to
assembly.
Congress shall make no law come on our

(01:36:19):
freedom of worship in our freedom, religion.
That's not talking about church, that's
talking about our freedom of worship and
our freedom of religion.

Lara (01:36:26):
That's not talking about church.
That's talking about our rights as citizens.

Leon (01:36:28):
Yes, inalienable rights yes, which means
you don't do right, we remove you.

Lara (01:36:34):
That's correct.
And boy, we did.

Leon (01:36:37):
And boy did America do.
And there's more coming.
They are never going to get their office
again.
Some are going to get primary.
It's so bad watch what happens and they
know it.
So they would rather strike up a narrative
that we all must fight each other.
But that's an old narrative.

(01:36:59):
They're running.

Lara (01:36:59):
They're running out of narratives to get us
to destroy one another.
The playbook is the same thing over and
over.
It's the same old playbook.

Leon (01:37:05):
But some of them know they're never going
to get that office again.
Some of us are going to be running for
Congress, running for Senate.
I mean, god's going to be raising up little
silly, sally and flossy Felicia.
You're going to run for Congress, ah, ah.

Lara (01:37:24):
Yes, you are.

Leon (01:37:26):
But they know Again right.

Lara (01:37:28):
Didn't you do it once before I ran?

Leon (01:37:29):
it twice, twice, no, really three times,
because my opponent died.

Lara (01:37:35):
My opponent died.
Were you successful.

Leon (01:37:38):
I was successful in the eyes of God.

Lara (01:37:41):
So you lost all three races.
He was setting you up.

Leon (01:37:45):
God, god, god.
You know how many times did Lincoln run?

Lara (01:37:49):
I don't know.
I know it was a lot.
It was a lot.

Leon (01:37:53):
Yeah, but it's amazing that now the signal
is very clear.

Lara (01:37:59):
Well, now you've had a lot of practice,
yeah, so this time, this time, I'm not
going to say anything now.
It's God's timing.
It's God's timing Because I've learned
what's it?

Leon (01:38:12):
say no new wine before it's time.

Lara (01:38:16):
Leon, where are you going to run?

Leon (01:38:18):
Well, let's see what God does in a couple
of states that I've been looking at.
Okay, you can't be one of those people that
tries to run somewhere they don't live.
Let's see what God does in a couple of
states that I've been looking at.

Lara (01:38:24):
Okay, you can't be one of those people that
tries to run somewhere they don't live
because they get caught.

Leon (01:38:28):
No, because I have a church in Tulsa.
That's a nice place, Mike.
I've been there for like four years.

Lara (01:38:34):
Yeah.

Leon (01:38:35):
But Virginia Ooh.

Lara (01:38:37):
Ooh, that's a good one, virginia is.
Virginia would be a good one.
Prime time oh, virginia is.
Virginia would be a good one Prime time, oh,
but you're right there, I'm right there,
huh, okay, now what are you going to do?
What is the Office of Faith going to do?

Leon (01:38:50):
The Office of Faith is going to allow every
department, whether it be HUD, doj, hhs,
you know where Robert Kennedy is.

Lara (01:39:01):
Yeah, where they've been trafficking
children.

Leon (01:39:03):
Yeah, all those places now will have a
connection to faith, and that's not just
prayer.
What is it?
That's policy?

Lara (01:39:16):
Interesting.
So you can't have policies that are
profoundly anti-God and anti-faith.
Yeah, that's very interesting.
So what can we expect to see, do you think?

Leon (01:39:32):
We're praying for Pastor Paula White-Cain.
I pray that she's continuing to build her
staff and then, once, all the cabinets come
in so you're talking about agriculture,
you're talking about education.
Linda McMahon, you're talking about US
trade, all of the different cabinets

(01:39:54):
Department of Energy Treasury labor energy
defense state, all of them with the Office
of Faith.
The intention is to have a liaison, a faith
liaison, in every place that now looks at
policy.

Lara (01:40:13):
That's amazing.
You know why?
Obviously I know you know this, but I just
have to say it Because when you look at
what has been done, all those who are
against God have brought that ideology into
every policy, so like climate, for example
what is?
It about?
Bill Gates thinks he's got to go and block

(01:40:33):
out the sun.
You know they're going to see clouds and
they're going to play God right.
They're going to take over creation by
cloning and deciding who can be born with
what genes.

Leon (01:40:47):
Robert Kennedy says that we need to eat
better.
Yeah, we need to get rid of all this stuff
in our food.
Yeah, that's policy, but that's in faith.

Lara (01:40:58):
It is because.
What do they say?
They say eat these chemicals that we're
growing in a lab, this lab grown meat
that's not even really meat.
Eat these chemicals because the food that
God gave you is not enough.
Kill all these animals the cows, the
chickens, because the food that God gave
you is poisoning the earth.

Leon (01:41:18):
Well, that's why I said, the secretary said,
before we put any vaccines in these
chickens.

Lara (01:41:24):
Yeah.

Leon (01:41:26):
Because we got to eat the chickens that you
put the vaccines in.

Lara (01:41:28):
Yeah, so careful, that's right.
You're poisoning the food supply, that's
right.
That's what they're doing in every
direction.
But it is rooted, it's absolutely rooted in
faith.

Leon (01:41:39):
In faith.

Lara (01:41:40):
All of it, Because why do they want to
break up the family?
Because family is powerful.
Yes, so you know.
And what is the ultimate family?
Family of God.

Luke (01:41:50):
God's design and he created male and female.
Yes, and Satan is the God little G-O-D of
confusion and he wants to completely take
God's design and flip-flop it Because he's
not original.

Lara (01:42:04):
He's a clown, right, he's like the Chinese.

Leon (01:42:09):
He can only steal and copy Right.
He's not a creator at all.

Luke (01:42:11):
Yeah, he's not a creator, he's a seeker.

Lara (01:42:13):
Okay.
So this is something that God's putting on
my heart right now, that I've thought about
for quite a while actually, and I think you
can help heart right now, that I've thought
about for quite a while actually, and I
think you can help.
A lot of young people today are very
tolerant of the concept of transgenderism.

(01:42:34):
Even if they don't believe in it, they feel
called to be tolerant of it out of respect
and kindness, not wanting to hurt people,
not wanting people to suffer.
And so what do you say to them?
Because I had kids say to me, you know, I'm
not sure I like Donald Trump so much and
I'd be like, why not?
And they were like, well, because he's

(01:42:55):
going to hurt trans people.
I was like no, he's not.
He's not going to hurt trans people.
But they see, if you're not going to fund
transgender clinics, then you're hurting
trans people, right?
If you're going to get rid of trans people
from the military, then you're hurting
trans people.
So there's a lot of uncertainty and

(01:43:16):
confusion around this issue because we've
told our children prejudice is bad, you
know, hatred is bad, being cruel and unkind
to people based on who.
Children prejudice is bad, you know, hatred
is bad, being cruel and unkind to people
based on who they are is bad, but now
you're saying, okay, these people for them.
It's very real.
Even kids who say I know there's only two
genders, but you know, this is my friend, I

(01:43:39):
don't want to hurt their feelings.

Leon (01:43:41):
Yeah, it's a whole thing about what love
really is.
And when you define agape, the word is
agape In John 3, 16, for God so loved the
world that he gave his only begotten son
that whosoever believeth in him would not
perish, preach, but have everlasting life.
So the word perish does not mean die, it

(01:44:02):
means of no use.
Think about it.
When a person changes their sex, they're
literally perishing and the love that God
gives is say I don't want you to perish.
So we have to teach our kids what true love
is.
True love is not just acceptance.
True love is something that I want to keep

(01:44:24):
you from being destroyed.
I want to keep you from perishing.
Yes, and you deserve a better life.
You deserve the eternal life that god has
promised.
And look at the statistics suicide, the
highest rate in the lgbtq.
I mean we're talking about, uh, the
domestic violence it is.

(01:44:46):
It's uh, uh.
And no one wants to talk about this remorse
after some get to a certain age and they go.
They've done the mutilation and they've
done certain surgeries and some of these
things are irreversible most of them are
irreversible.

Lara (01:45:00):
I mean, you chop off your, your hemorrhoids,
your golden balls.
You chop off your golden balls ain't coming
back, it's it's, and so, no, I love you.

Leon (01:45:14):
I don't want you to perish.
Yes, and to suffer and to be of no god made
the use of the woman.
Let's talk about romans, chapter one.
How, uh they?
Because they would not retain god in their
knowledge, they began to turn themselves
over to that which was unseemly men,
changing the use it actually says it in the

(01:45:35):
bible.

Lara (01:45:35):
They changed they trans.

Leon (01:45:38):
Yes, they transed and god said even the
women in themselves changed the use of the
women, so no more male and female coming
together to have children.
They transed.
What did it say?
It said they began to uh.
The word is they began to uh pay a penalty
within themselves, yes.

(01:46:00):
And then it says God gave them up over to a
reprobate mind.
And the only thing left in that chapter is
that they know there's a terror that now
stays on them and it rests on them because
they would not retain God on their
knowledge.
So the only thing left is a terrifying

(01:46:21):
judgment and the only way is to come back
to the Lord.
So that's the real love that we have to
teach our children.
You, we don't want you to be destroyed.
We don't want you to perish.
Come back to him, and there are many.
I have a lady right now.
She's, she's.

(01:46:42):
I wish we could bring her.
I hope we could bring her on.
She wants to tell the story about coming
out of lesbianism.

Lara (01:46:48):
I'll talk to her.

Leon (01:46:49):
And what has happened and why everybody
needs to hear this.

Lara (01:46:52):
Yeah, I want to hear that.
I want to hear that.
That sounds fascinating and, you know,
because our children are really the number
one target.
I'll tell you, leon, I work with an
extraordinary woman here in Texas and her
organization provides a lot of frontline
intelligence for counter-trafficking
operations.
And she was telling me that boys sell for

(01:47:15):
three times as much as girls on the streets
of Texas today Three times as much as girls.
The number one product that people want for
sexual purposes and sexual deviancy, as
young boys, particularly pretty boys, the,
the boys that they can transition, and
there's an entire thing they call it the
underground, the ray, the rainbow railroad,

(01:47:36):
where they, they transition kids
underground now, and you know who the
number one buyer is for these boys who
married couples that's sad.
I have a son, so for me it's more than sad.

(01:47:57):
It's like a call to arms.
You know what I mean.
I'm vigilant because that's who's being
targeted, not just by the traffickers, but
by the phone.
The phone is your trafficker today.
The Xbox is your trafficker Right.

(01:48:18):
There's a heavy overtone of of, uh, gay
culture in that.
Not, and I don't do, I care, you know, am I
here to judge anybody?
Absolutely not, not my position at all, but
I can still recognize what they're doing
and what you can see.
So, and you know, discord, which is for the
gaming chat room, that's uh number one for

(01:48:39):
child trafficking.
Number one for child trafficking, and so
they're using all of these things.
It's coming at your kids in memes and on
social media TikTok Snapchat.
Youtube, all of that, and it's coming
through the video games.
They're under assault.

(01:49:01):
Our children are under assault every minute
of every day.
They want your soul and one of the ways
they take it.
What goes hand in hand with trafficking?
I always say what is the best?
Trafficking is best friends with something.
What is it?
It's narcotics.

Leon (01:49:15):
Wow the drugs.

Lara (01:49:17):
Of course, because how do you get children,
how do you get a human being to distance
themselves from who they were, how do you
get them to become alienated from their
real?
Sense you get them to do things with
narcotics that break down, break down your
resistance, break down your morality, break
down your will, break down your perspective,
break down everything, every part of you

(01:49:37):
separate you from how you were, as you were
created, and it's opening up the spiritual
doors.

Leon (01:49:43):
I mean demonic doors.
Right, I was just going to say what
happened in Samaria when Philip went down
to preach to them.
Demons started screaming out when he
preached the gospel and the leader was
guess what?
Simon, he was a sorcerer.
That word is called pharmaceutio.

Lara (01:50:02):
Oh yeah, we get the word pharmacology
pharmakia, narcotics narcotics so basically
he was controlling samaria.
Yes, through sorcery and, and that's what
they're still doing today.
That's why they're.
You know, not only has the united states
been flooded with narcotics because of the
open borders.
That's the purpose, part of the purpose of
the open border is to flood the country

(01:50:22):
with narcotics.
Why?
Why?
Because that breakdown of morality not only
does it render your society less and less
and less effective, because individually
you're less effective.
You're not running for Congress, you're not
joining the military, you're not raising a
stable family, and so on.
Right, that's the sort of the tactical,
practical effect.
But what is really happening spiritually is

(01:50:44):
that you're being separated from your
creator because you can no longer live with
who you are.
You have to become somebody else.
I saw this with joseph coney of the lord's
um army in uh in africa he began in uganda
and then he moved into central african and
I went with Ugandan special operations

(01:51:05):
soldiers actually into the forest there on
operations to try to find Kony.
And when he built the Lord's army it was
the largest army of child soldiers in the
world and I interviewed some of these kids
who escaped from him or were rescued, and

(01:51:31):
three boys described to me how one of the
things that Kony would do to you is that if
someone escaped, particularly if it was a
relative, a brother, a sister or somebody
in your group, they would make, when they
caught them, they would make the other
children murder that person, but they would
make them do it with their teeth, so they
would have to bite other children to death
over and over.
And you know they did all kinds of things

(01:51:52):
and so what?
They told me what happens to you when you
do this.
They said at a certain point, comey will
hold a ceremony for you and at that
ceremony he will rename you.
You become Well that, you become Sorry.
Let me say that again.
Let me finish you become reborn.

(01:52:15):
So you have a new name and a new identity.
You are reborn.
And what happens with trans kids?
Dead, naming your old self, self?
Your old name is dead to you, right?
You are now reborn as a boy or as a girl,
whatever it happens to be.
They give you a new name.
If you start to, when you break these
things down, they're identical.

(01:52:37):
They're absolutely identical.
The cubs of the caliphate, for isis, the,
the hitler youth.
They're all identical and always at the
forefront, always the target are the
children, because they are the closest to
god, they are the kingdom, and so you know
it's when, when, when you hear these things
and you understand that boys, especially

(01:52:59):
young boys, today, are being, are being, uh,
targeted in this way.
It is demonic and, as luke said, it's a
portal to an, to demons, and it is satanic
and in the music is steeped in satanic
vibrations and satanic imagery.
You know the hyper sexualization, the over
sexualization, the normalized.

(01:53:21):
I mean you.
You have a girl on instagram who makes a,
who makes a bet out of sleeping with a
hundred men in one thousand a thousand is
it?
it was a thousand in one day I can't get my
head.
I can't, can't get my head.
Yes, leon, what you know, when this is what
they're doing, so when you, when you look
at all of that, you you realize your

(01:53:42):
children are under siege.
So it's hard because you can't be over them
every second of every day.
You can't shield them from this, you can't.
All you can do is try to bring them as
close as you can to God.

Leon (01:54:00):
Yeah, there's a prayer that we have adopted
to pray over children and I prayed over my
kids.
I prayed over because we have a daycare
prayed over kids and every child has at
least one angel with them all the time.
It's called a guardian angel, but we have

(01:54:21):
to acknowledge it, that these angels cover
our children yeah, every child.

Luke (01:54:29):
And if you think so.
You know.
In Matthew says but whoever causes one of
these little ones who believe in me to
stumble, be better for him to have a heavy
millstone hung around his neck and to be
drowned in the depths of the sea.
So, jesus, you, jesus to God, harming a
child is the absolute worst thing.
And he does say vengeance is mine, but I

(01:54:52):
think the identity, if you think about that,
we are bond servants to Christ.
We actually choose when we accept Jesus to
be a bond servant, our identity now becomes
I am not Luke Coffey, I'm a servant of the
Lord Jesus Christ.
You know, this is just my name, right?
But if you don't have the Holy Ghost with

(01:55:12):
you, you have other spirits coming at you,
unclean spirits that are saying no, you're
not enough.
Where God says I love you, you are enough.
I created you in my image, imago Dei, you
are enough, my child.
But the enemy, satan, wants to say no,
you're not enough, you were created wrong.

(01:55:33):
You should be a girl, you should be a kitty
cat.
You know a they them, which is weird
because that's also demonic.
If you say that's, that's yeah, that's like
multiple spirits, it's, it's a type of
schizophrenia, yeah, it's.

Leon (01:55:46):
And and what happens is like one man had
legion in him.
Legion, yeah, that's, 6 000 demons, that's
a day.
Then jesus said what is your name?
And he said legion, for we are many.

(01:56:08):
There's always one head demon.
That kind of runs the pack.
But he told him.
He said "'Well, whoever you are, get out of
them'".
And Uncle Harry was free for the first time
and it said he was clothed in his right
mind.

Luke (01:56:24):
And if you think about Lucifer, he was, you
know, the prince, he was the most beautiful
angel, he was the angel of worship.
And how he uses.
Now he was thrown down with a third of the
angels fallen angels and he uses, he's the
prince of the airways.
He uses media, like you talked about, laura,

(01:56:46):
to program his lies his lies, you know and
to make them seem that they are not enough.
Your identity is do as thou wilt, as it
says in the Satanic Bible.
Anton LaVey said in his first interview,
who was the founder of the Satanic Church
of Hollywood in the early 70s.

(01:57:06):
He said by the 2000s, by the 21st century,
we will own all of media and advertisement
and I mean his prophecy was correct and we
will influence the children.
They will go after the minds of the
children because why they are the most
influential, most innocent and if they can
get to them, you know that gets to the

(01:57:28):
culture and further generations that are
following.

Leon (01:57:31):
That's the plan.
Proverbs says train up a child in the way
he should go that when he grows old he will
not depart from it.
So it's our responsibility and so wow it.
Well, we have to put policy in place to
protect our kids.

Lara (01:57:52):
So that's what you're going to do, right?

Leon (01:57:55):
That's the assignment that every place
policy should match what the people wanted.
What did the people vote for?
The people voted for male and female.

Lara (01:58:10):
Two genders.

Leon (01:58:11):
People voted for closed borders.
The people voted to get the fentanyl off
the streets.
The people voted to get men out of women's
sports.
The people voted to stop unnecessary wars,
that billions of dollars are going, when
they could go to the people in America.

Lara (01:58:34):
And people suffering and dying needlessly
in a war that cannot end the way they're
running it.
So the people, voted.

Leon (01:58:41):
So we have to match policy with what the
people voted Not.
That's the people voted not.
Yeah, that's the narrative now.
Well, you didn't know what you're doing,
you?
You made a mistake when you voted for Trump.

Lara (01:58:50):
Yeah, or you're too stupid.

Leon (01:58:52):
Yeah.

Lara (01:58:52):
Yeah, when we said you could vote, we
didn't actually mean it, we only meant it.
As long as you didn't show up, do whatever
we think is right, because we know better,
that's how they are.
But oh, but, give us your tax dollars.

Leon (01:59:05):
Yeah.

Lara (01:59:05):
Because we need that.
Yeah, we don't need you to think, you know,
we don't need you to have a voice.
We just need you to do what we tell you.

Leon (01:59:14):
Yeah.

Lara (01:59:15):
So, leon, one of the reasons that the faith
office was established was because of the
attacks on Christianity.

Leon (01:59:23):
Yes, can you speak a little bit to that.
Yeah, the whole thing that when we wanted
to pray, it was an offense, yeah.
When everyone else could pray.
Any other faith.
Any other faith could pray, but when we

(01:59:44):
wanted to pray an offense.
Yeah, we saw it happen from Canada on on to
America.
But one pastor, they just told him you
can't preach in the name of Jesus it's had
agents spying out Catholic churches.

(02:00:07):
Wow, we called them mama bears.

Luke (02:00:11):
Arresting abortion protesters who were
praying.

Leon (02:00:13):
Yeah, Mama bears would go to a meeting and
say we want those books, all those
pornographic books, out of our library and
they went to arrest.

Lara (02:00:22):
They talked about the mama bears.
Yeah, yeah.
I mean, I spoke about this at a
pornographic books out of our library and
they went to arrest at the mama bears.
Yeah, yeah, I mean I spoke about this at a
moms for liberty event in our local town
and I was listed by the southern poverty
law center as a domestic violent extremist
yeah you know for doing that yeah, a
terrorist.

Leon (02:00:39):
Yeah, we were called terrorists.
Yeah, because we were using our faith.
Remember the coach that prayed in the
middle of the football field?
No, you can't do that, but you could bend a
knee and not stand for the national anthem
Exactly, wow, burning the flag.

(02:01:05):
So this is real to have such an instrument
that the president has access to, that's
another tool Faith, amen.

Luke (02:01:21):
It's a tool.
So Christian nationalism like I have a lot
of, one side of my family is very liberal.
They use that term as a dog whistle to
demonize those.
You know, the men of men and women of faith
that want to be involved and active in our
government, involve God back in the
government.
So they use that and have.
Pbs has run a documentary on christian

(02:01:42):
nationalism and you know, and I mean it's
probably the marxist propaganda that's, you
know, trying to demonize that.
What?
What have you seen, what have you heard
from from all that chatter about christian
nationalism?

Leon (02:01:54):
yeah, the whole thing uh, to love your
nation you know america first.
That's where that came from.
America first is a type of nationalism.
So a Christian could not love their own
nation, wow, so who?

(02:02:16):
So the Lord said that this is.
This is in scripture.
If a man cannot take care of his own family,
he is worse than an infidel.
Infidel means an unbeliever.
A person doesn't even the worst description
you could give to someone.

(02:02:36):
Infidel is someone who does not is
irresponsible, does not take care of their
responsibilities.
And so we have to know that our faith has
to have rightful acts.
Yes, work, yeah, it has to have some

(02:02:56):
subsequent acts.
Faith without works is dead.

Lara (02:03:00):
Yes, and that's what we've been following
is kind of a faith that, oh, you don't have
to do anything, you don't have to live up
to anything, you don't have to stand for
anything, you don't have to fight for it,
you know, you just go along with it.
Right and survive whatever you know, live
and let live, and right been turned into.
You know, I just turn a blind eye.

Leon (02:03:21):
Right, no, no, no, no, we have to.
The scripture says a man comes to you as
hungry and naked and you say to him be
filled and be warmed.
Have you really exercised your faith?
No, you gotta go get some clothes and go
get some food.

Luke (02:03:40):
Yes.
Well, in the same way, leaving faith out of
policy is gonna lead to a culture that is
run by Satan, right?
If we don't include, if we don't bring God
into politics, if he's out of politics,
who's going to fill that role?

Leon (02:03:54):
It's going to happen Whether we acknowledge
God or not.
God cannot deny himself Right.
And so when a person it's impossible, the
Bible says, without faith it's impossible
to please God.

Lara (02:04:11):
So, leon, it's interesting what you said
there, because you remind me of something
when you talk about faith like that.
I lived five years in Iraq and when, at the
end of the first Gulf War, saddam Hussein
began carrying around a Quran and people

(02:04:33):
thought you know, he had this image as
being this religious man.
But actually, when you looked at it, when
did he start doing that?
Because Saddam was really very secular, but
at a certain point he started to infuse
religion into his speeches and all the rest
of it.
Well, it came at the end of the Iran-Iraq
war, because what he observed in that war

(02:04:53):
was that his adversary, in that case Iran,
sent more than a million people to their
deaths and there was no complaint from the
country because they believed they were
fighting a religious war, because the
Iranians are mostly.

Leon (02:05:09):
Shiite.
Now you know why I hate religion.

Lara (02:05:13):
Well, that's when Saddam found religion.
Because he was like oh, the mullahs, they
can kill a million people and they're still
lining up to go fight, because they're
going to fight for God.
They're fighting for their shiite faith,
and so that's, you know.
So he was a sunni saddam, and that's when
he started to bring religion into it.
And I, uh, you know, which is because he
realized the power, right, he's harnessing

(02:05:36):
the power of god and the power of faith.
It didn't help him very much in the end,
however, um, it just remind.
I think of that when, when trump often says
that, um, that faith is more powerful than
government and god is more powerful than
everything yeah, we get our rights from god,

(02:05:57):
not from government.

Leon (02:05:59):
Government is supposed to protect our
rights, and so we have these
representatives that are sitting up in
Capitol Hill and their districts are in
poverty.
The homelessness rate is through the roof.
What's going on in San Francisco, some of
these other places?
Look at what happened with the fires If

(02:06:20):
Trump didn't come in and release the waters.
They had plenty of water.
Where's the faith?
Wow, what happened to the faith?

Lara (02:06:34):
It's incredible.

Leon (02:06:35):
And so these people have to be called out.
They have to be called out and they're
saying they want to be called out, and they
say they want to be representing their
community and they let their community look
like trash.
No, Leon.

Lara (02:06:54):
Okay, so we've been talking a while.
We better bring this to a close and go and
break bread.
But before we do that, I wonder if you
could just speak to a moment to what you
see lies ahead.
What are the choices before us now?
How do you I mean when you talk to the

(02:07:16):
president, what do you say?

Leon (02:07:22):
We right now, as Americans, we are all
Americans.
We have to come to that understanding.
Black, brown, white, no, all of that fades
away in God's glory when we know that we
are all Americans and now we have an
opportunity to be one.

(02:07:43):
That was the whole goal to be one.
This is Jesus's prayer in John, chapter 17.
May they be one, as we are one I in thee,
thee in me and I in them.
You know, it's all about coming together.
This is where America has an opportunity.

(02:08:03):
We can either fail or pass this test.
The word is temptation and the Bible says
there is no temptation such as coming unto
man, where we have been tempted, but God is
faithful in that he knows how much we can
bear, for he will provide a way of escape.

(02:08:27):
Will America escape this temptation to go
into division and divisiveness and to
scatter our resources?
And or will we pass the test and bear up
under this opportunity to say we're one and
that's where we are right now?

(02:08:48):
We're at the crossroads and the enemy is
biting at the bit to get us to scatter.
But we have to pass this test right now.
You're my sister, you're my brother, you're
my sister, you're my brother, you're my
sister, you know?
You know, no, we are one and I'm not

(02:09:10):
telling no freaky stuff.
I'm talking about I gotta say it we are one
in that we know each other's boundaries, we
respect each other, we have emotional
intelligence, we know each other's lane and
we respect that.

(02:09:32):
You know.
That's where America is a temptation.
It's a test and I'm going to pray and I'm
going to believe that we can pass this test
in this season, because there's so many
waiting.
There's so many of the world that is
looking at us right now, from africa to
asia, to the whole world they're looking at

(02:09:54):
us to say, okay, they won the election, but
can they pass the test?

Lara (02:10:00):
and there's yeah, there's many tests right
now yeah, and, and god is.

Leon (02:10:05):
But the scripture says plainly god is
faithful, he will provide a way of escape
that we'll be able to bear up under the
load.
See, there's a responsibility to carry this
burden.
Jesus says my burdens are what my burdens
are light, my yoke is easy.
Come unto me all you that are heavy laden,
and you shall find rest for your soul.
Take my yoke upon me and learn of me, for

(02:10:26):
my yoke is easy and my burdens are light.
So now we have a leader that wants to take
the heavy load off of the people.
He wants to do tariffs and not taxes.
Come on somebody he wants to get rid of the
Department of Education so that the real
learning can happen where it's supposed to

(02:10:47):
happen, and put the responsibility of
learning back into the hands of the parents.
Lift the come on, president Trump, lift the
heavy load and cause the cabinet to follow
that vision of lifting the burdens, the
heavy burdens that the last administration

(02:11:07):
had put on the people.
It was too much.
Eggs were through the roof, people couldn't
afford to buy a home.
No, people didn't know where to put food on
the table or gas in the car.
That's too much of a heavy load.
Too much.
Police were defunded, so any emergency that

(02:11:28):
happened took almost sometimes anywhere up
to a whole hour for the police to show up,
or longer, or longer.
That's a heavy burden.
Now we have an opportunity, president,
donald Trump, the cabinet and all the
congress let's lift these burdens.
Come on.
The president, donald Trump, the cabinet
and all the Congress, let's lift these
burdens.

(02:11:49):
Come on.
His yoke is easy and his burdens are light.

Lara (02:11:52):
Well, I know, leon, you are leading 100
Days of Prayer.

Leon (02:11:55):
Yes, tell, people where they can find you.
Yes, they can go to
coalitionofleadersunitedorg where we have
our post up there we have some of the
prayers posted where people can go back and
listen to some of the prayers.
But we are monday through friday at 8 am
eastern standard time, so we have people
from california.

Luke (02:12:13):
They get up at five o'clock to pray brother
benjamin, would you you opened us in prayer,
would you close in a prayer for a blessing
over this podcast, because we want to
glorify God and point people to truth and
pray for the audience from what you've just
shared.

Leon (02:12:29):
I'm going to pray for this podcast because
this podcast is going to be used to open up
the portals of heaven.
Amen, and that's what Jesus said that
angels will be descending and ascending
upon the son of man.
That's talking about heaven portals opening.

(02:12:53):
We call it Jacob's ladder in the Old
Testament, but Jesus said upon the son of
man.
That's what was happening during this
podcast.
Angels descend.
That means coming out of heaven, coming to
the earth.
That's an open portal.
He didn't say one angel, he said angels.
So through our words and through our faith,
we open up heaven and also, through our

(02:13:16):
words and through our faith, we close
heaven.

Lara (02:13:19):
This is true.
We don't want to close it.

Leon (02:13:21):
Yeah, elijah, we want it open Elijah closed
heaven and there was no rain for three and
a half years.
Okay, that'd be bad yeah, yeah but then he
opened up heaven come on come on lord so
glory be to god rain let it rain, lord, the
latter rain of the holy ghost.
Thank you, father.
Thank you for this opportunity to be with

(02:13:44):
Laura gone rogue.
Thank you, lord, for the team, the staff.
Thank you, lord, for what you're doing
right now, opening up portals, causing the
fire of heaven to manifest, oh God, and to
cause vengeance of the Lord to happen where

(02:14:07):
it needs to happen.
You said vengeance is mine.
I will repay.
So, father, use this podcast as a model
that there is no place where truth cannot
be inserted, where truth cannot invade
through the airways and through the
highways and the byways.

(02:14:27):
Oh god, we thank you, lord, that this
listening audience will feel the fire yes
and they will be cleansed.
They will be purged from dead works through
the blood of Jesus to serving the living
God.

Luke (02:14:42):
Hallelujah.

Leon (02:14:44):
Thank you, lord.
We repent right now.
We have all turned and gone astray and we
need your mercy, we need your justice.
So we ask father right now to order our
steps.
Cause podcasts like this and a like, such a
like that will open the understanding of

(02:15:05):
the masses that they will know God for
themselves and no one should have to teach
them to know God, for they shall all know
him.
So we thank you for the Holy Ghost tonight.
Have your way, holy Ghost.

Lara (02:15:23):
Amen.

Leon (02:15:24):
Fill the people, fill us and cause us, oh
God, to hear your voice with clarity and
distinction.
You said a stranger's voice.
We will not hearken to.
My sheep know my voice.
So we thank you, father, that they will not

(02:15:47):
answer to the voice of the stranger, but we
will answer to the voice of the lord by
your spirit.
Thank you for laura, thank you for her
heart.
Oh, to open up the portals, so that clear
messaging of what you want for America and
abroad will be heard with clarity and

(02:16:11):
distinction.
We thank you for it.
Now In.

Lara (02:16:16):
Jesus name, amen, amen.
Thank you, leon.
Thank you for being with us.

Leon (02:16:20):
People can find you on X, I know yes on X,
I'm on X, people can find you onX, I know.
Yes, on X, I'm on X, you can find me Again.
They can go to Mago Black and see me there.
Leon, for Congress, I'm also there with,
with the Coalition of Leaders, united
Because we're praying.
We're praying, so you'll see the Coalition
of Leaders, you'll see that, and so and
we'll definitely have you back, amen.

Lara (02:16:41):
We will definitely have you back.
We will definitely have you back.
Thank you for bringing it.
It's beautiful.

Luke (02:16:44):
Thank you so much, thank you.

Lara (02:16:45):
That's another episode of Going Rogue with
Lara Logan.
We'll see you next week.

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