April 8, 2025 • 51 mins
Lara Logan holds court with Luke Coffee and Producer Keith as they discuss whether Fauci will be held accountable, if chemtrails are real and what RFK Jr. might do about it, and how well Tesla protestors dancing the electric slide fits with the music of the Third Reich.
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Luke (00:00):
In a world where the truth is under attack,
where journalists are expected to follow
the script, one woman refuses to play by
the rules.
She's investigated war zones, uncovered
corruption and taken on the most powerful
forces on the planet, and somehow she still
hasn't been cancelled.
(00:20):
But they tried, oh hell yeah, they tried,
and now she's back, bolder, louder and more
rogue than ever.
This isn't just journalism, this is Going
Rogue with Laura Logan.
Buckle up folks.
It's about to get real.
Lara (00:48):
Welcome back to the Rogue Roundtable, going
Rogue with Laura Logan and Luke Coffey, my
wonderful co-host.
Thank you, laura.
Okay, I want to just say a quick word.
What's been bugging me this week is this
accountability.
So this is a difficult subject.
You know.
People have had a lot of have been
(01:10):
encouraged that there has been a lot of
momentum in the new administration.
I know some people didn't vote for Donald
Trump and they don't apparently don't want
to see fraud, waste and abuse stopped in
the government.
Luke (01:23):
It's the strangest thing I don't know.
Hey, you don't want to stop the bank robber,
right?
Hey, let them rob the bank.
Yeah, apparently, some people Don't call
them out.
Lara (01:30):
Some people hate Donald Trump so much that
they don't care if he shows them that they
were flushing their tax dollars down the
toilet.
They would rather you do that than have
Elon Musk or Donald Trump be right about
anything at all.
But okay, so there's been a lot of exposure.
That's a great thing, because we've learned
(01:52):
things that we didn't know.
We learned that dead people get Social
Security and that babies nine-month-old
babies get small business loans.
You know things that the average person
really doesn't want to see happen, and if
they could put aside their politics long
enough, to be honest, everyone would admit
that we all know that's fraud, waste and
(02:13):
abuse and it's wrong.
So that's a good thing.
So what's the bad part about this?
Well, you can expose this stuff all day
long, and if you don't actually if there
isn't any real accountability you're just
going to see the same thing happen over and
over again.
It'll shift from here to there, maybe it
goes down for a time and then it'll creep
back up.
You know the people that were behind this.
(02:35):
People will say you're always going to have
corruption, you're always going to have
evil, you're always going to have all of
that, but you're not always going to have
the chance to fix it.
You're always going to have evil, you're
always going to have all of that, but
you're not always going to have the chance
to fix it.
And so when you fix it, it's got to hold.
It's really got to stay.
And now people are starting to get kind of
frustrated.
Some people are wondering are we being
deceived?
You can see this narrative coming in Trump
(02:57):
said he was this.
He said he was that.
You know, liberation day oh, liberation day
was great, but it would have been nice to
see some arrests.
It would have.
But I'm always conscious of what I don't
know, and so now it's a balance.
You want to give people proper amount of
time.
Dan Bongino, new deputy to Kash Patel at
the FBI, put out a tweet this week where he
(03:18):
said don't think, because you're not seeing
things happen or you're not seeing what's
happening, that nothing is happening.
And that's true and that's fair.
But at the same time, here's what worries
me the most right now Building cases that
are airtight and don't just get dismissed
and fail is critical, so you can't just
walk in and investigate people, but some of
(03:39):
this stuff you've had years Now.
I know you haven't had years inside these
agencies, but it's been years since the
whole Hunter Biden laptop nonsense was
exposed.
Russia collusions even longer.
There's been plenty of investigations.
They know the truth.
At this point, putting those cases together,
sure it needs to be meticulous and careful,
(04:01):
but what I'm worried about is Wisconsin.
You know, and I tell you why, people
breathe their sigh of relief after the 2024
election because they thought, oh, the
issue of election fraud has gone away.
Solon elections we overcame a Solon
election.
We don't know how much fraud there was down
(04:21):
ballot.
You know, joe Hoft has a great report out
that he just put out.
About one in five voters in Orange County
either didn't exist or were non-citizens
and so on, these phantom voters.
That's not good.
As long as you have the machines in place,
as long as you have an inflated census that
gives sanctuary states more representation
(04:44):
in Congress than they actually legally
should have, as long as you have all of
these things, you do not have a free and
fair system.
So how many special elections will be
stolen?
What will happen in the midterms?
How long do you have that majority?
And, by the way, congress, you're starting
to be a little disappointed again.
(05:06):
Yeah, so TikTok.
Okay, I'll leave off the last word that I
usually say Anyone who knows me knows what
I say that TikTok.
Okay, it rhymes.
Yeah, tiktok, tiktok.
You don't have a lot of time, do it right?
Sure, but you know, one of these cowards is
held accountable.
(05:27):
How many of them will crumble?
I bet it's a lot.
That's the word.
Luke (05:31):
That's a good word and, as someone that has
been punished very quickly for my actions,
very quickly after January 6th they came
for me.
Yeah, they didn't take very long.
They didn't take long at all.
So I think they can move fast if they want
to.
Lara (05:46):
so you know.
Who did take long, though, was the judge,
who took almost a year that was.
I'm grateful for that, you know as it turns
out, as it turns out the timing of that,
but it's still kind of incredible that that
in a judge, in a bench trial after it ended,
before you actually got a verdict from the
judge, was almost a year 350 days
approximately.
Unbelievable.
(06:06):
Okay, Luke, what do we got today?
Luke (06:07):
Well, speaking of accountability, we want
to start.
This is a good segue into the slow process
of firing these bad apples.
We found out that Dr Fauci's wife,
christine Grady, just now has been removed
from NIH.
Lara (06:28):
Wait, wasn't she at HHS Health and Human
Services, head of bioethics she was.
Okay.
Luke (06:33):
And she was moved.
But it seems that they just moved them to
different departments instead of just
firing them and kind of pushed them out
gradually.
What's your opinion?
Lara (06:42):
on that.
Okay, so that is true that she was moved to
some random desk, right?
Luke (06:48):
Well, she was eventually moved to Alaska
and yeah, I mean, this is a—.
Lara (06:52):
Isn't she looking at—she's on some
indigenous sort of task now yes, yes.
Okay, so we should know what that is.
Well, you know what the issue is with that,
Luke.
Luke (07:07):
She's actually—okay.
She's been reassigned from the National
Institute of Health in Maryland to the
regional offices of the Indian Health
Services in Alaska.
Per NBC.
Lara (07:13):
Indian Health Services.
They sent her to Alaska.
Yeah, to Alaska, that's great.
Sent her all the way up there.
Luke (07:18):
That's like going to the North Pole With
the.
Lara (07:19):
Eskimos Bye, bye, baby.
Okay, the thing about this woman is that
it's not a personal thing like, oh, you
know, fauci's wife, like you have to be
mean or vicious about his wife because he's
a small, murderous little creature, right?
No, it's because she was actually approving
(07:41):
things, right.
There was a conflict of interest, ethically
and professionally, and so her hands were
dirty too, and so Christine Grady should be
fired on her own merits.
Even if she wasn't married to Fauci, there
were things that she was involved in that
led to this.
(08:01):
But what we have seen is that, you know,
you have to have grounds to fire someone,
right?
And people have legal contracts, and
there's lots and lots and lots of push
inside the federal government and there's
lots of push outside the federal government
in lawfare, where they're suing every time
Donald Trump, I mean look, he got rid of
(08:22):
all those people that were temporary
employees, and then some judge told him no,
you got rid of all those people that were
temporary employees, and then some judge
told him no, you got to hire them all back
again.
I mean, these people are like Teflon, you
just can't fire them.
So I think I'm not saying it's the ultimate
solution, but I do think that what we're
seeing here is they're moving as carefully
as they can to stay within the law, because
(08:44):
otherwise I mean there's already how many
lawsuits have been filed against almost
every single action that they take.
Someone is filing something, so probably
the reason she was reassigned is to get her
out of the way, send a message away.
(09:09):
Send a message and also avoid a costly,
lengthy legal battle that would be.
You know, this tactic is just stalling them.
It's putting the Trump administration on
the defensive over and, over and over again,
and nobody wins on defense.
That's a bad idea.
Luke (09:19):
Right, and she was.
I mean, she led the charge.
Here's a video let's watch this of you know
what she during the COVID.
You know she was right there with Dr Fauci.
Lara (09:30):
Little Miss Mengele yeah.
Video (09:32):
And in the end, if people decide not to get
vaccinated, that in the end is their choice.
Even if they're a nurse, they may not be
able to work in the facility that they've
been working in, but they've made a choice
on their own, the thing that makes me and
in the end, that's the clip.
Lara (09:51):
Yeah, well, that's not so bad.
Why would we choose that clip?
Video (09:54):
Well, she's.
Lara (09:56):
I mean she is saying it's your choice.
Luke (09:58):
She's covering her butt.
Well, you should be fired if you work in
the nursing industry, well, she didn't say
that she said you may not work she didn't
say Well, I mean, you know how I am, you're
forced out.
No, you're forced out.
Lara (10:08):
Well, people were forced, but she didn't
say I'm forcing you out.
Yeah, I think you should have chosen a
different clip.
What else you got?
Luke (10:16):
I also have another one where they're
complaining about being, I just think, to
me accountability.
Going back to that, a lot of us just
speaking from the J6 community and I don't
(10:36):
want to be always a J6er, but this is still
pretty fresh that we're looking for
accountability in general and we're looking
for that's not the one, I'm sorry.
Yeah, well, I mean, let's talk about some
of the like you know.
This is, first of all, he's a small man.
Lara (10:51):
Oh, are you going to get personal now?
No, I'm not getting personal, but we
remember this is Do not get personal.
Luke (10:56):
I'm not.
Lara (10:59):
Although Fauci said a lot of nasty personal
things about me when I criticized him on
air, so it's not like I owe him anything,
but yeah, they did make him-.
Luke (11:08):
I think we do owe Fauci something I think
we can be personal.
I mean, he was telling us you know, this is
going back to 2020.
When I started speaking out, I was working
in the advertising world.
I was seeing all the propaganda, but he
originally said masks don't work and then
he changed it he changed it.
He's like no, three masks, four masks, five
masks, you can never, have enough masks,
(11:30):
you can never have enough masks.
Five masks you can never have enough masks.
Lara (11:32):
You can never have enough masks.
Yeah, he's a horrible little man.
Luke (11:34):
Yeah, he looks like a rat.
Okay, let's be honest, I will talk, I'll be
personal.
Lara (11:36):
Five times August.
You know he's a great musician.
He lives in Austin.
I love Brad.
He did a great little.
He did a fabulous song about Fauci, but
he's St Fauci right.
(11:57):
Yeah, well, the thing that gets me about
Fauci is that he destroyed people.
He helped to destroy families, economies,
entire nations.
He destroyed businesses.
He was responsible for people dying.
People died because of him.
There are women who miscarried because of
him.
There are women who miscarried because of
him, women who lost their babies because
these people lied and he and his wife were
(12:21):
basically working off each other.
It's corrupt and, quite frankly, it's evil.
So that's why, for me, it's not like yes,
he's smaller than her and you can poke fun
at him for that he looks like a rat.
Luke (12:34):
I mean that kind of well, he is a rat, he's
a rat.
Hey, can I play you guys, can I?
Keith (12:38):
play you guys a song video that I made
about fauci okay, yeah, yeah, I made.
Lara (12:43):
This is keith, this is keith.
I love moby.
I got, I got this got pulled fast Dr Fauci
what do you want?
Luke (12:55):
Where's your face mask?
Keith (12:57):
But I'm not sick, dr Fauci, I have a
present for you.
Luke (13:02):
It's time for your vaccine.
You don't want to die from a horrible
disease, do you?
Keith (13:09):
My mom says I have a better chance of dying
from a snake bite but all of your friends
are going to get it.
Video (13:15):
It's so true, trust me, boy.
Luke (13:16):
It's so true, just Fauci.
Keith (13:34):
Just Fauci.
That's Ty Fisher, by the way.
That's his voice.
Close your mind and thrust in thee.
Video (13:46):
Hold still.
Please Wear your mask.
Wear your mask, live in fear Because a
disease is always near.
Luke (14:05):
It's brilliant, keith.
It's for us, fauci.
That's my point.
What this?
This snake is still the snake lives.
Lara (14:18):
the snake lives without any punishment,
yeah well this is a this is a big question,
because people have lost their jobs and
been pushed out and their careers, you know,
might have, but they haven't.
That's not real accountability.
When people died because of you People,
young kids had developed myocarditis.
Video (14:39):
Yeah.
Lara (14:40):
You know that's permanent heart damage.
Video (14:42):
Right.
Lara (14:42):
I mean there were people with allergic
reactions who died.
I mean, what they covered up was
unbelievable.
Damn it.
I like that.
That's so cute.
Luke (14:54):
Play.
Did you do the animation, Keith?
Pretty good, Keith.
Keith (15:00):
Well, yeah, that's Disney animation.
Lara (15:02):
This is when you had a lot of time on your
hands, right.
Keith (15:05):
Well, this came out in April of 21.
Wait, yeah, something like this came out
pretty right in the heat of it.
How did this not go viral, man?
Because it got pulled from everything, oh
something like this came out, you know,
pretty right in the heat of it.
How did this not go viral, man?
Because it got pulled from everything, oh
don't you remember, of course, yeah.
This has been reposted since then.
Now it's up.
But, it was yeah, it got traction on
BandVideo.
Lara (15:25):
Oh, it's hilarious, it's brilliant On
BandVideo, but you put this.
You obviously were home during lockdowns
with time on your hands, right and he was
making wild music too.
Luke (15:35):
That was pretty incredible.
Just by himself, oh, tyler Fisher did the
voice.
He did a good job, he's great.
Lara (15:42):
It sounded like Fauci.
He doesn't need Fauci.
Keith (15:44):
Yeah, I found Tyler Fisher just on Twitter,
him doing his Fauci on.
Lance (15:51):
Twitter?
Was that before you knew him?
And then I reached out to him and I was
like hey, can I?
Keith (15:55):
hire you to do a voice for me.
Oh, that's great.
Luke (15:57):
That was before you got bigger.
Lara (15:58):
I'm sure I couldn't afford him now.
Luke (15:59):
Yeah, yeah, or maybe it'll go viral now
he's blown up.
Keith (16:07):
Yeah, he's a very he does a great Trump.
Yeah, in DC when we did that event that big
event in DC before the election yeah, Okay
what you got, Luke.
Lara (16:16):
what's next?
Luke (16:16):
Well, so I think we need to talk about
speaking of vaccines and poison.
We have a great sponsor that has a detox.
Lara (16:27):
Oh yeah, that's, true.
Ascent Nutrition right.
Luke (16:29):
Ascent Nutrition.
Lara (16:31):
I actually love Ascent Nutrition.
Right, Ascent Nutrition.
I actually love Ascent Nutrition.
Luke (16:33):
There's a kind of a lemony one that you do
right.
Lara (16:35):
The pine needle extract.
Okay, yeah, that has lemon flavor to it,
Because you kind of think what are pine
needles going to taste like.
But it's an oil.
It's a little dropper and I know it has.
Is it shishimic acid?
Is that?
Keith (16:46):
what it she can make see, Keith knows.
Lara (16:49):
Keith, you've been taking your pine needle
extract.
I have been.
Keith (16:51):
yeah, I see he's very good about that it's
awesome.
It's a detox.
It helps you detox from the toxic soup that
we all live in Also helps your lungs right.
Yep, it's good for your respiratory system
and immune system.
And your immune system.
Lara (17:10):
Yeah these are wonderful things that God
gave us.
They're kind of picky right Because they
don't have a huge lineup Like some of these
companies.
You go on there and I get overwhelmed.
I feel like I need a degree to understand
how to interpret my health Interpret it,
it's like another language.
Yes, but theirs is pretty easy because they
don't have an enormous amount of products,
because they go and source the real thing
(17:31):
where they can.
So I mean, I've actually really felt
different just taking the fulvic humic and
fulvic acid, most of which I couldn't even
pronounce, didn't know existed before we
got involved with the San Nutrition and
they started sponsoring us but I really
liked the company.
Luke (17:46):
But you sat down with Lance.
Lara (17:47):
Lance Shuttler, yes, that's right, who
explained a lot to me.
He did.
Keith (17:54):
So if you've had a Fauci ouchie, you need
to watch this.
Yeah, and I would say we're about to put on
our website.
It'll be up by the time this episode is out.
You can go and watch the whole interview
that you did with him, which was great.
In fact, he talks about the pine needle
extract.
Let's cut to that clip right now.
Lara (18:11):
I love it.
I know this is a big one for you.
Pine needle extract yes, why?
Lance (18:15):
back when the whole covid situation was
going on like at the height of it back in
2021, there were some doctors who started
talking about pine needle tea and the pine
needles.
The reason why they were talking about that
is because different compounds, but the
main one, shikimic acid.
So shikimic acid is what Tamiflu is, that's
(18:38):
the main constituent.
So shikimic acid, if you look it up on
PubMed, it has antiviral, antibacterial,
antifungal properties and also antiplatelet
and antithrombogenicogenic, and so what
that means is it can help support healthy
blood flow and unsticking the blood and,
you know, support that detoxification
(18:59):
process and things along those lines.
Another thing with the pine needle extract
is that you know, we know, how intentional
this whole system has been to suppress our
health and suppress the functioning of the
human body again, mentally, physically,
emotionally, spiritually.
It's not coincidental, very intentional, in
(19:21):
my view, and I think a lot of other people
believe this too.
Glyphosate targets something called the p53
gene, and the p53 gene is known as the
guardian of the genome, and this function
of this gene is to really help to make sure
that cells that might become cancerous
don't become cancerous and don't
(19:42):
proliferate and grow and become, you know,
oversized and form a tumor.
That's p53's main role and again you can
find this on PubMed it is the most studied
gene in the human genome P53, 70,000, plus
different studies, very well known.
Glyphosate targets P53 and other genes for
(20:05):
sure, but it very much targets P53.
And this is very well known it does what to
it, it suppresses the function of it and it
can turn off the function of it either
lower the function or turn it off
completely, depending on the person and
their, their physiology and all sorts of
other factors.
So shikimic acid, it's a.
It's formed in a process called the
(20:27):
shikimate pathway or shikimic acid pathway,
and glyphosate stops that seven step
process.
It's like the fifth step in that process.
It stops it, so shikimic acid can't get
formed and so then this indirectly hurts us.
So shikimic acid, if you can get it in the
(20:49):
diet can help to support the gut, support
the healthy microbes in the gut and in the
body, and does all the things that we
talked about helps support cleansing the
blood and optimizing the function of some
of these different genes.
Why would anyone ever consider we think of
vaccines as like we inject every child and
(21:11):
now all of a sudden, oh no, there must be
an area of research here, right?
So that's when we started looking into
aerosolized vaccines so.
Lara (21:25):
Luke.
Luke (21:26):
So, yeah, that leads us Fauci, leads us
into more.
Vaccines are still happening without us
knowing right.
So there's been rumors of there could be
vaccines in mosquitoes and the meat, but
now we're seeing evidence that there's
aerial vaccine dispersals happening.
Lara (21:44):
Yeah, it's like come on, are you serious
Like I don't?
You know you can't spray vaccines in the
air.
I mean that's a violation of every person's
individual sovereignty.
You know you have't spray vaccines in the
air.
I mean that's a violation of every person's
individual sovereignty.
You know you have a right to refuse medical
treatment if you don't want it.
I mean, it was because of Dr Joseph Mengele
that we have what's the Nuremberg Code,
right?
The Nuremberg Code says that you know, no
(22:08):
people can't force you to take medical
intervention like that, and so we don't
want it in the food, we don't want it in
the water, we don't want it in the air.
I mean this is ridiculous.
Luke (22:18):
I mean it is crimes against humanity, I
mean, if it's Nuremberg style, I mean.
So what they're saying is that this is mass
inoculation without our consent.
They're claiming the governments are using
aircraft to disperse vaccines over
populations covertly.
So we're not accepting this.
(22:38):
This is happening.
But a lot of people have heard of
chemtrails.
You know, yeah, so that has always been.
You know, and that was always a conspiracy
theory and denial.
Even if you search for it, it gives you it
fact.
Checks it right that it's not a true claim.
Lara (22:58):
But what have you what search engine are
you using?
Luke (22:59):
Well, I mean DuckDuckGo comes up.
What's the best?
One, the Russian?
Lara (23:04):
one.
They're all.
A lot of them suck, but it just bothers me
that they fact check your search.
It just bothers me that they fact check
your search.
I mean, it's like, who the hell do they
think they are?
Luke (23:12):
Well, to me, the fact check means that it's
actually that's truth, and they don't want
you to know it.
Lara (23:17):
So that's to me.
It's like, yeah, but it doesn't mean that
to everyone.
Some people think it's a real fact.
Check Exactly.
Luke (23:22):
Well, the ones that are asleep under the
spell.
Lara (23:24):
Okay, so look, this is the thing
complaining about chemtrails for a long,
long time.
And chemtrails are distinct from contrails,
right?
Because contrails when the plane goes
through the sky and it leaves sort of the
vapor behind it.
The difference with chemtrails is that this
idea that there's some kind of chemical
(23:45):
that you're looking at and the things that
people have pointed out are that the
patterns are abnormal, that if you have an
airport, if you live near an airport or you
know planes go by, there'll be contrails
will go in one direction consistently.
But when you see all this, you know these
white streaks crisscrossing across the sky
looks like a tic-tac-toe board, you know
(24:06):
right, and that's an obvious indication
that that's unnatural.
Keith (24:09):
Yeah, and then they, they start thin and
then they expand, yeah, and then they start
thin, and then they expand out into clouds
and then by a few hours, you've lost your
clear sky.
Now you have this man-made cloud cover.
Lara (24:23):
Yeah, and so now people are still treating
this as if it's conspiracy.
But how many states?
There's been a bunch of states that have
already banned chemtrails.
I think Tennessee was one of the first.
I think Florida is up there.
And so, since we're in Texas, I took a look
at this in Texas.
What have you got there?
Trump launches chemtrails task force.
Luke (24:46):
Alongside RFK and, yeah, we have checked
this out and it is, uh, apparently
happening.
Um, they're, they're coming after the
planes, the pilots, the scientists and the
shadowy overlords bankrolling these
assaults on humanity and, like you said,
this is, you know, comparable to nuremberg
(25:08):
2.0, and especially if they're doing this
like to, I mean, think about those that
weren't vaccinated um, we can't escape it.
That's what it seems.
This is men playing God, right?
Yeah, evil men playing God wanting to be
God.
And what do you think the reasons for these?
They care about our health, laura.
(25:28):
Is that why?
Lara (25:30):
Yeah, they care about our health.
Sure yeah, that's what they care about.
Video (25:33):
It's for the greater good.
Lara (25:38):
You know, the thing that bothers me is how
long they've been getting away with it and
how there are still people all across this
country that believe this is just a
conspiracy and it's not really happening.
So one of the things that I came across
when I was, you know, when we talked about
this as a potential topic for today, I
wanted to do it because I had recently
(25:58):
heard about the state of Texas moving to
band camp trails but making exceptions for
existing contracts.
So that leads you to think, okay, well,
what are those existing contracts?
So if you go to and anybody can do this
right, you can go to the Texas Department
of Licensing and Regulation and we can put
(26:19):
that up there.
This tells you all about the history of
Texans using cloud seeding to lessen the
impact of periodic, often severe, droughts,
and it goes back years, decades actually.
And there's, you know, they even tell you
there's a list here of all the different
(26:40):
contracts.
Look see, there's the South Texas Weather
Modification Association, west Texas
Weather Modification Association,
transpicos Weather Modification Association,
rolling Plains Water Enhancement Project.
I mean, these are this is multiple projects.
So they do both the cloud seeding because,
you know, there's different.
There's all kinds of reasons that people
(27:02):
cite for the chemtrails.
There's different kinds of weather
modification.
Some of it is to seed the clouds to create,
you know, rain.
Some of it is like this groundwater
conservation district, that is, it does
cloud seeding but also operations to
enhance rainfall and augment groundwater
recharge over the aquifer.
(27:25):
And so you know what things like this
confirm, luke, is that it's not a
conspiracy.
No, it's a fact.
Right, people have been maligned, probably
censored, attacked, ostracized for talking
about it, and you know what else that means
People in government, in local governments,
(27:46):
like in the state of Texas, engineers and
scientists and all the kind of people that
are involved in these industries.
They all know, of course.
They all know the truth and what burns me
and I'll be well behaved here and I won't
say a bad word even though I want to tame
your tongue, south African tongue of yours,
I know it gets naughty, sometimes off
camera.
(28:08):
I am happy to do it on camera well, don't
tempt me.
We got children watching no, what I will
say is all of these people they know.
It's just like when we interviewed Ilanka
Deaton on this show about child trafficking
in the music industry and she said all
those people that knew the photographers,
(28:29):
the makeup artists, the off-duty policemen,
the security guards, the people working in
the hotel where the events were staged all
of these people, the doctors and therapists
that piece these kids or survivors back
together.
It's the same thing with the chemtrails.
Luke (28:45):
Well, I mean, let's talk about the pilots.
I mean the pilots that are knowing like
yeah, where are these pilots?
No, no, no, I'm just flying a plane.
Keith (28:52):
They sign NDAs or something.
Video (28:54):
They know what they're doing.
Luke (28:55):
And they get paid good money, how evil.
Keith (28:57):
Yeah, they must be paid.
Luke (28:59):
But that's why the love of money is the
root of all evil.
You will do evil things for greed and money
and power.
Lara (29:06):
Okay so.
Luke (29:08):
And let me tell you, so you know, the
chemtrails, the claim they're used for
weather modification, which a lot of people
are like.
You know, I got attacked online recently
because I was, you know, posting some
reports about potential weather
modification with some of recent you know
things that have happened.
Lara (29:26):
Yeah, but you deserve that.
Usually when you get attacked, you deserve
it.
Luke (29:29):
I just defended you yesterday.
Okay, I'm kidding.
Keith (29:32):
I'm kidding.
Luke (29:33):
Weather modification, there's climate
engineering, military defense projects.
Lara (29:37):
Blocking out the sun.
Blocking the sun Bioweapons programs,
population.
Luke (29:42):
Population control.
Mass sterilization yeah, Weaken our immune
system.
Mind control potentially, I mean.
Lara (29:48):
So they have all these different oh yeah,
5G towers, 5G towers.
You know what they do, though, Luke.
This is the thing.
What can we actually prove?
We can actually prove, I'm sure, the state
of Texas not the only one with this kind of
documentation.
We know that weather modification has been
going on.
I think they even admitted it.
I think HAARP, right.
Luke (30:05):
Yeah, and cloud seeding is happening.
Yes, yes.
Lara (30:15):
But you're not going to be able to prove,
on the knowledge that we have available to
us, that they're using the 5G towers and
this and that Man-attack and all that right.
Now, it may be true.
However, what they do is they insert bits
of information that make you sound crazy or
that are impossible to prove, and they use
that to shut down the whole conversation.
Yeah, and we're tied to those tactics.
(30:36):
We don't do that on this show.
Luke (30:38):
We don't.
And yeah, there's, but we know that there's
aluminum and lithium and that's coming
Barium, barium, that's being.
I mean, why do we all need these detoxes?
Lara (30:50):
How do we know?
I mean when you say we know.
Luke (30:52):
Well, I mean, how do we know Keith?
Keith (30:55):
well, I, I've been um, I've been a long
time listener of Alex Jones and he uh, that
guy's a conspiracy he's been on this.
Luke (31:05):
We love Alex on this show.
Lara (31:07):
We are diehard Alex Jones fans and and so I
mean I was.
Keith (31:11):
I was just trying to look it up, but I
remember driving around Austin listening to
to this is 2006 maybe and he had a guy on
who was a Vietnam pilot.
In Vietnam who was they were doing weather
modification.
They knew how to.
They've been, they've known how to drive
storms like manipulate storms.
(31:34):
They can't always create them, but they can
make them worse.
And at least this was in Vietnam.
They could create this is so yet now.
Lara (31:44):
So this guy was a whistleblower.
Keith (31:47):
He was a no, so that was a firsthand
account that I heard on the radio that some
guy was speaking out and that was yeah,
2006 or something.
So what they do 2006 or something.
Lara (31:56):
Yeah, so what they do?
They take something like that where you
have people that speak up occasionally, you
know you get little bits of information or
you get official confirmation and then they
muddy the waters.
It's a tactic in information warfare called
ambiguity increasing.
They throw all these things into the mix,
right, right.
So now you're like, oh, I don't know kind
(32:17):
of what to believe in, especially if they
can throw something in there that sounds a
little crazy or hard to believe, and then
they can discredit the whole and shut down
the whole conversation.
Luke (32:25):
Right, exactly, and I mean that's.
I mean going back to 2013,.
There were Australia.
In Australia they had vaccine dispersal
claims, so they're saying that they and
they've resurfaced since then.
That said, the Australian government
approved the release of vaccines over
Queensland using aircraft.
Lara (32:45):
I mean, who are these people?
Luke (32:46):
Seriously, who are these people and think
about it.
I mean, it's connecting the dots.
Now, if you're a conspiracy theorist, we
should be celebrated at this point, because
we are critical thinkers.
We can not just accept yeah, we're prophets,
we're prophetic if you were speaking out
back in 2020 and being canceled like we
were or whatever but it's, that's the
(33:06):
reality of it.
These people are evil.
They're playing God.
I mean.
This is all opinion, of course, from every
man, and Okay, enough of Cantrell, you know
what Wait?
Lara (33:16):
every man.
Okay.
Enough of Cantrell.
You know what Wait?
Keith (33:17):
okay, keith, if you don't mind, I did just
find.
This guy's name is Ben Livingston.
He was a Navy physicist and pilot.
Yes, I remember I've seen those clips, yeah
and he advised apparently LBJ in the 60s
that this was a great, this was working.
Lara (33:35):
You wonder how many of the recent tragedies
have been caused because people mess with
the weather.
Right, I mean the floods and this and that,
Not to mention.
Okay, we're not going to go to the fires.
Hawaii.
Video (33:49):
No, we're not going there.
Lara (33:51):
I have a good guess for that, actually, if
we can get them to come on.
But, I'm throwing something in here.
That isn't on the schedule.
Luke (33:59):
I'm throwing in tariffs Okay, tariffs Okay.
Lara (34:01):
I'm throwing in tariffs because I'm not
sure.
I think tariffs are part of a broader plan.
You know, what no one's talking about is
that there's I can't remember the exact
number but trillions of dollars in
long-term government bonds that are coming
due and that nobody has the ability the
government doesn't have the ability to pay
(34:23):
them out.
So one of the things is, when you look at
the tariffs, it's really the easy button to
be able to say that, oh okay, now we're
going to have inflation, Goods are going to
go up, People are angry, so there's going
to be more tariffs.
We're not going to have inflation.
Goods are going to go up, People are angry,
so there's going to be more tariffs.
We're not going to have more access to
goods.
But I want to say two things to people
about tariffs.
Number one don't assume this isn't part of
(34:46):
a broader strategy.
Right, Because what the tariffs are going
to do if the markets are down and the
tariffs are going to, potentially one
impact that it can have is to push people
away from the markets into government bonds,
which will push down the yields, and so
when those bonds become due, it's not going
(35:08):
to be as much.
So that helps to alleviate what is a very,
very, very significant financial issue
that's looming over us.
Second thing is with the tariffs.
You know, I just got to say to people
what's more important that your new luxury
car or the ability of the United States to
(35:28):
make its own gunpowder and medicines?
I mean, because that's what we're talking
about we literally do not manufacture
gunpowder in this country anymore, and
people I mean the Chinese, in this case,
the CCP they want to cut off your
antibiotics, your dialysis treatment.
You know, I don't know everything you need
for construction, all the chemicals that
(35:50):
you need for just about everything that
happens around us.
Gunpowder, I mean it's insane.
It's insane what we have allowed to happen
to us.
And just like we were lied to about the
chemtrails, we were lied to about
globalization.
And I know this because many years ago I
went to the Midwest.
I was on vacation and my husband at the
(36:12):
time, my wonderful first husband, his
family, came from there and we had to go to
Lake Okoboji in Iowa to sell his
grandparents' home and I saw entire towns
across the Midwest.
I saw what had happened, how middle America
and the middle class and the working class
had been decimated by globalization, and I
(36:33):
thought I was in the twilight zone, Because
back in New York, at 60 Minutes, where I
was a correspondent, nobody had ever heard
of that.
I mean, there were whole towns that had
just died out.
There were massive double-story houses with
the windows boarded up.
I mean, I believe his family sold his
grandmother's house for less than about
(36:54):
$9,000.
And that was like a six, seven, eight
bedroom house.
So this is a big deal taking back our
sovereignty and reestablishing our national
security.
We have an illusion of national security
right now.
Now, of course, there's other things that
you could argue that we have that would
compensate, but this is going to be tough.
(37:16):
It's going to require a little bit of pain.
People have to be willing to suffer and
speak up, and I'm done and you're done.
Keith (37:22):
That's it.
I did have something I want to say.
I don't know if you can cut this just say
it um so I'm a small l libertarian, I kind
of lean towards free markets not kind of of,
but I mean, I do believe like that's
ultimately the best path is for governments
to stay out of market manipulation period.
(37:43):
And I realized that it's easy for anyone to
philosophize about what the best system is
when we have real problems with the
imbalance, with the trade imbalance, right,
and so in my mind I see what Trump is doing
and, you know, even though I don't believe
tariffs are the ultimate answer and I don't
(38:06):
even think maybe you were saying what's
behind this, I think what could be behind
this is that it's a negotiation point, like
it's bringing people to the negotiation
table where there wasn't even a negotiation
table before.
Now they're like okay, no, okay, let's sit
and talk, let's talk and that's that's
(38:27):
really really good.
It's leveling the playing field so you
can't really complain about that.
I mean, you can obviously, but you can.
Lara (38:35):
You're an idiot if you complain about that?
Yeah, and I'm not.
If you don't want the playing field to be
leveled, you know you're nuts yeah, so I
think it's great that he's bringing people
to the negotiation table yes because,
ultimately, in a perfect world to be so, I
think it's great that he's bringing people
to the negotiation table.
Keith (38:51):
Yes, because, ultimately, in a perfect
world, it'd be like what Malay and him just
did, which is, no tariffs on either side.
Lara (38:54):
Right, they made a deal, yeah, With the
president of Argentina.
The art of the deal.
Okay, coffee, we're going to end every show
with a little bit of Luke.
So what you got for us this week.
Luke (39:08):
Well, I'll show you.
I call this the Tesla slide.
Lara (39:11):
Wasn't there a J6 thing you wanted to talk
about before that?
Okay, we can do both.
Let's do them both.
Luke (39:17):
So yeah, brandon Fellows, he's actually a
really funny I know, brandon, he's a funny.
Lara (39:23):
He's a good guy.
Have you met him in person?
I have.
Luke (39:25):
Yeah, I'm excited to meet him.
He's a funny guy, he's just.
I've seen a lot of interviews with him.
Lara (39:31):
And brave.
Luke (39:31):
And brave, very brave, yeah, yeah, but he
so he was actually seated behind Fauci when
he was testifying in Congress in this clip,
so she sets it up well here.
Keith (39:42):
But essentially this brandon fellows went
viral with his facial expressions as fauci
gave his tearful uh, his tearful testimony
in front of congress and it was dr fauci
and yesterday's congressional hearing is
from is a j6er and he just got out of
prison from the j6 stuff like two weeks
before this hearing then last night dr
(40:03):
fauci went on cnn to talk about the whole
thing.
Video (40:05):
Watch.
Were you aware that sitting behind you
today, we have him highlighted right now on
the screen?
But that person, that's Brandon Fellows.
He's actually a January 6th defendant who
was removed from the hearing later on and
as he was leaving, I don't know if you
could hear him, but we heard him on camera
shouting that he believed also that you
(40:26):
belong in prison.
Did you hear that?
I didn't hear it, but it was brought to my
attention before and there was also someone
behind me.
I don't know if it was the same person who
was identified as someone who just got out
of jail for being arrested for the january
6th I the.
Capitol.
(40:46):
Now what's somebody like that doing at a
hearing about COVID?
So they'll show his face this year, I mean
it was remarkable just to see who was in
that.
So he makes these funny faces my wife, my
three daughters, my three daughters.
They involved my wife and my three
daughters.
So yeah, Brandon, Look at his face.
How do you?
Luke (41:06):
feel my three daughters.
They involve my wife and my three daughters.
Video (41:08):
Three daughters.
Lara (41:08):
So yeah, brandon Wait look at his face.
Luke (41:10):
How do you feel he's laughing?
Video (41:12):
Keep your mic on.
Keith (41:13):
Terrible he's crying.
Terrible Brandon.
Video (41:15):
Fellows needs protection at all costs.
Lara (41:16):
Okay, somebody needs to buy it.
Was he dunking on purpose?
Yes, of course.
Like he knew that the cameras were on him.
Luke (41:23):
I think he knew he sat himself behind her.
Lara (41:25):
I should have asked him when I saw him.
Well, he.
Luke (41:27):
I mean that's what I heard, that he knew.
I mean he purposely tried to get right
behind him and was like making the pouty
faces and he was asked to leave and he said
you're the one that belongs in prison, or
something like that.
And he literally had just gotten out of
prison a few days before for January.
Lara (41:42):
So I love how they don't think okay, I love
how seriously they take themselves.
First of all, you know and I get why.
I mean he's making fun of Fauci, so I guess
why there's no humor, but that CNN actually
does a segment on it, oh no, this just
shows you how lost these people are, and
also this idea that ordinary citizens don't
(42:03):
have a reason to be at a COVID hearing.
Right, you locked us up.
Luke (42:08):
Well, that's the reality.
Yeah, exactly All of us.
Lara (42:11):
Yes, you locked us up.
You took away our rights Exactly.
You prevented.
I couldn't bury my father.
I had to bury him on Zoom.
You let people die in nursing homes.
Luke (42:20):
Well, he's saying there should not be a
terrorist behind him sitting.
Lara (42:23):
Oh a terrorist.
Brandon Fellows be a terrorist behind him
sitting.
Luke (42:25):
Oh a terrorist that brandon fellows wasn't
convicted of terrorism.
Neither was I, but for four years I was a
terrorist and even if he had been, he'd
been pardoned, right.
Lara (42:32):
I just um, I I do.
I love that brandon fellows did that, and
you know what I really why?
Not just because because fauci deserved it,
but because it speaks to the spirit amen it
speaks to the spirit of a bold, really
unafraid American, somebody who knows, no
matter what they did to him, no matter all
(42:54):
the lies that have been told about January
6th, all the intimidation from law
enforcement and our political leaders on
both sides of the aisle Republicans as well
disgusting.
And in spite of all of that, that guy had
the.
Luke (43:10):
you know he had what it's, as you say in
panama the going rogue, the going rogue
spirit, that's right.
Keith (43:16):
Yeah, that's the going rogue spirit.
Lara (43:18):
Yeah, he had it and you know what?
Uh, there's a lot of people in this country
who haven't.
These people haven't begun to find out.
Luke (43:24):
That's right.
And so the other thing about the left they.
There's a lot of stuff we can laugh at, you
know, and I don't think they laugh at
themselves, but the, the, the bizarre
behavior that is happening and that's to
close us.
If you could go to the previous clip.
Well, you say the left, I say the, the,
what, the woke, I don't know the deluded.
Lara (43:44):
You know I hate the left the right thing.
I know I hate it too, the left the right,
the left the right, hey.
Luke (43:48):
I'm in the yeah, I don't.
I hate politics in general, but I'm saying
those that are under a spell, I don't know
a little spell.
Keith (43:54):
The deluded.
Lara (44:02):
Well, they self-identify as the left right
well, they do, but I, I do it.
Okay, this is gonna this is gonna be a good
one but I want to show you okay.
Luke (44:09):
So, first off, uh, this was at a.
This is how the the I, I, I am a fan of
these kind of protests.
Okay, and I'll show you why later.
I'll show you why later.
But, um, this, so this is uh what I call
the tesla slide.
Um, you'll see what they're doing.
We can go ahead and play it.
Lara (44:30):
And then there's a remix that one of your,
so I posted this one, you posted this one.
Yeah, because they're so stupid, You're
doing the.
Yeah.
I don't understand why they can't look in
the mirror and see that it's not cool, it's
not catchy.
It's not, I mean you're idiots.
Luke (44:42):
it's not, I mean you're idiots so what was
funny is one of your followers.
If you can play the next one, that looks
like the same should be after I posted it.
Lara (44:53):
Is this what someone responded right after
they posted?
Lance (44:56):
here, it goes through the beat that's
perfect let's do the beat too okay, that's
perfect.
Lara (45:06):
Play it again.
Play the beat too Okay, that's perfect.
Play it again.
Play it again, please.
Yeah, play it again.
Luke (45:10):
I wish it was longer.
I wish it was longer.
I did, I looped it, I thought it's
brilliant.
Lara (45:22):
Who is the clever person who did that?
Okay, no, no, no.
Watch the arm movements there, Luke.
Lance (45:27):
Watch the arm movements, oh yeah.
Luke (45:30):
We don't want to be.
Lara (45:31):
Elon.
Okay, I'm not.
I mean, that is much better.
Luke (45:38):
That goes better than that song.
So yeah, in closing.
Lara (45:42):
so I and just to be clear to be clear it
goes better with the song because the
tactics these protesters are using I mean
you don't like the guy's politics, so you
just go protest and burn down his
businesses.
They're going to learn.
Firebomb him.
Yeah, they're going to learn very soon that
this sort of kind of eco-terrorism is not
(46:04):
going to be rewarded and tolerated.
For very long I saw a fabulous video we can
show it on next week's show where a guy was
just dragging protesters out.
Luke (46:12):
He was huge, do you?
Video (46:13):
see that one he was huge.
Lara (46:15):
He was dragging the protesters out of the
street, it's like so that people can drive.
We're not doing this anymore.
You know what I mean and now yeah, you've
moved from the time where you could say,
okay, we'll let somebody know that they're
using child slaves and so we're going to do
an awareness campaign, and maybe you'll
have better practices.
Now we're at the part where you know what?
There's a great restaurant in Kervel, just
(46:36):
down the road from where we are right now
In the hill country In the Texas hill
country Carmine's.
Luke (46:41):
Carmine's okay.
Video (46:43):
Great Italian restaurant.
Lara (46:44):
I haven't been there yet.
They're being attacked by these kind of
tactics.
Because why?
Because they put up Trump flags and things
supporting Trump.
Lance (46:52):
These are Marxist tactics.
Luke (46:53):
I mean right.
Lara (46:53):
You're allowed to support Trump.
You can support one candidate.
I mean, if people want to fly Biden flags
or Kamala flags, if I don't want to eat
there, I don't have to eat there, but that
owner of that restaurant can put whatever
they want.
Up this idea that you can terrorize and
intimidate and attack people, use violence
to savage them into submission so that you
(47:15):
are the only person who's allowed to have
an opinion.
Luke (47:18):
They didn't call themselves a tolerant left
right, Aren't they?
Lara (47:20):
Yeah, remember that.
Yeah, remember.
Someone needs a dictionary.
Luke (47:23):
So yeah.
Lara (47:25):
Let me spell that for you Tolerance, T-O
yeah.
Luke (47:29):
Okay, what's next?
Well, just in closing.
So I thought they did, I would rate them,
and I can rate them because my time as a
struggling artist in California, in Los
Angeles city of fallen angels I was a emcee
and I dressed as a fool, I was a clown and
I taught people the electric slide.
That was part of my job.
(47:49):
So you can go ahead and play this.
This is from about 20 years ago.
Lara (47:53):
So this reminded you of.
Is this you?
Yes?
Luke (47:56):
Oh, I MC corporate events and I teach.
Part of that is getting people involved in
dancing Not the most we dance.
You remember I got my brothers here.
They're going to help me out.
Tell me what we do.
Lara (48:10):
You just rocked up in the gym and did this,
yeah.
Luke (48:13):
I'm a strange guy.
Lara (48:15):
Was it set up?
Luke (48:16):
No, I just recruited them.
Lara (48:19):
When you got there, they didn't know.
No.
Luke (48:24):
So you got to add a little more.
They need a little more, you know, jive to
it.
A little funk.
Lara (48:32):
Let's do it.
Okay, do it here, luke.
Nice, we'll do that.
We'll do that on the road.
Luke (48:37):
We'll do that on the road.
Love it, that's it, yeah.
So yeah, that's just saying they didn't
have the pizzazz, the pizzazz that maybe.
And the enthusiasm that you wanted the
enthusiasm that I would want if I was
teaching them and directing them Right.
Keith (48:52):
But you had some.
Yeah, you had sort of a macho, sort of a
manly take on the electric slide.
Luke (48:59):
Well, there was some I was an.
Elvis impersonator as a child.
Lara (49:02):
I was going to say that was definitely very
Elvis, that outfit yeah well, there was
some pelvic thrusting and it was an Elvis
jumpsuit.
Luke (49:08):
So I was taught as a young boy to imitate
Elvis by my mother.
Lara (49:14):
Something's wrong with that.
Okay, that entire sentence.
Luke (49:16):
that was very wrong you sure you don't want
to rephrase that?
Well, no, I was a big Elvis fan growing up.
You know Lionel Richie and Elvis.
Lara (49:23):
The other Elvis impersonator that I
interviewed was Bruno Mars.
Bruno Mars as a child, too, right I?
Luke (49:29):
was an Elvis impersonator as a child.
I really was.
I did birthday parties, okay, but I lip
synced him.
I was a lip syncing star.
Lara (49:36):
Okay, and like Bruno was today, bruno was
actually, he was a real star.
Luke (49:41):
I was acting like a star Luke, can you sing,
though?
No, I can't, but I would love to.
Keith, you have me beat.
You look like you could be a kind of that
you could be an Elvis.
Lara (49:49):
Take us out.
Luke (49:51):
Baby, take them north.
Lara (49:52):
No, I don't have that's good, do it Come on,
give us some Elvis, some Jailhouse Rock.
Luke (49:59):
Wouldn't do a party in the county jail.
Prison band was there.
Prison band was there.
They began to wail.
Drunk boy john was jumping at it.
John began to swing.
You should have heard him, dark doubt
jailbird singing let's rock home, baby.
Let's rock.
Everybody at the jailhouse rock, which is
ironic because that was my favorite song
(50:19):
because I spent time in the jail after you
spent time in jail okay, that'sth, so let's
end it there.
Lara (50:24):
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Lara (00:48):
Welcome back to the Rogue Roundtable, going
Rogue with Laura Logan and Luke Coffey, my
wonderful co-host.
Thank you, laura.
Okay, I want to just say a quick word.
What's been bugging me this week is this
accountability.
So this is a difficult subject.
You know.
People have had a lot of have been
(01:10):
encouraged that there has been a lot of
momentum in the new administration.
I know some people didn't vote for Donald
Trump and they don't apparently don't want
to see fraud, waste and abuse stopped in
the government.
Luke (01:23):
It's the strangest thing I don't know.
Hey, you don't want to stop the bank robber,
right?
Hey, let them rob the bank.
Yeah, apparently, some people Don't call
them out.
Lara (01:30):
Some people hate Donald Trump so much that
they don't care if he shows them that they
were flushing their tax dollars down the
toilet.
They would rather you do that than have
Elon Musk or Donald Trump be right about
anything at all.
But okay, so there's been a lot of exposure.
That's a great thing, because we've learned
(01:52):
things that we didn't know.
We learned that dead people get Social
Security and that babies nine-month-old
babies get small business loans.
You know things that the average person
really doesn't want to see happen, and if
they could put aside their politics long
enough, to be honest, everyone would admit
that we all know that's fraud, waste and
(02:13):
abuse and it's wrong.
So that's a good thing.
So what's the bad part about this?
Well, you can expose this stuff all day
long, and if you don't actually if there
isn't any real accountability you're just
going to see the same thing happen over and
over again.
It'll shift from here to there, maybe it
goes down for a time and then it'll creep
back up.
You know the people that were behind this.
(02:35):
People will say you're always going to have
corruption, you're always going to have
evil, you're always going to have all of
that, but you're not always going to have
the chance to fix it.
You're always going to have evil, you're
always going to have all of that, but
you're not always going to have the chance
to fix it.
And so when you fix it, it's got to hold.
It's really got to stay.
And now people are starting to get kind of
frustrated.
Some people are wondering are we being
deceived?
You can see this narrative coming in Trump
(02:57):
said he was this.
He said he was that.
You know, liberation day oh, liberation day
was great, but it would have been nice to
see some arrests.
It would have.
But I'm always conscious of what I don't
know, and so now it's a balance.
You want to give people proper amount of
time.
Dan Bongino, new deputy to Kash Patel at
the FBI, put out a tweet this week where he
(03:18):
said don't think, because you're not seeing
things happen or you're not seeing what's
happening, that nothing is happening.
And that's true and that's fair.
But at the same time, here's what worries
me the most right now Building cases that
are airtight and don't just get dismissed
and fail is critical, so you can't just
walk in and investigate people, but some of
(03:39):
this stuff you've had years Now.
I know you haven't had years inside these
agencies, but it's been years since the
whole Hunter Biden laptop nonsense was
exposed.
Russia collusions even longer.
There's been plenty of investigations.
They know the truth.
At this point, putting those cases together,
sure it needs to be meticulous and careful,
(04:01):
but what I'm worried about is Wisconsin.
You know, and I tell you why, people
breathe their sigh of relief after the 2024
election because they thought, oh, the
issue of election fraud has gone away.
Solon elections we overcame a Solon
election.
We don't know how much fraud there was down
(04:21):
ballot.
You know, joe Hoft has a great report out
that he just put out.
About one in five voters in Orange County
either didn't exist or were non-citizens
and so on, these phantom voters.
That's not good.
As long as you have the machines in place,
as long as you have an inflated census that
gives sanctuary states more representation
(04:44):
in Congress than they actually legally
should have, as long as you have all of
these things, you do not have a free and
fair system.
So how many special elections will be
stolen?
What will happen in the midterms?
How long do you have that majority?
And, by the way, congress, you're starting
to be a little disappointed again.
(05:06):
Yeah, so TikTok.
Okay, I'll leave off the last word that I
usually say Anyone who knows me knows what
I say that TikTok.
Okay, it rhymes.
Yeah, tiktok, tiktok.
You don't have a lot of time, do it right?
Sure, but you know, one of these cowards is
held accountable.
(05:27):
How many of them will crumble?
I bet it's a lot.
That's the word.
Luke (05:31):
That's a good word and, as someone that has
been punished very quickly for my actions,
very quickly after January 6th they came
for me.
Yeah, they didn't take very long.
They didn't take long at all.
So I think they can move fast if they want
to.
Lara (05:46):
so you know.
Who did take long, though, was the judge,
who took almost a year that was.
I'm grateful for that, you know as it turns
out, as it turns out the timing of that,
but it's still kind of incredible that that
in a judge, in a bench trial after it ended,
before you actually got a verdict from the
judge, was almost a year 350 days
approximately.
Unbelievable.
(06:06):
Okay, Luke, what do we got today?
Luke (06:07):
Well, speaking of accountability, we want
to start.
This is a good segue into the slow process
of firing these bad apples.
We found out that Dr Fauci's wife,
christine Grady, just now has been removed
from NIH.
Lara (06:28):
Wait, wasn't she at HHS Health and Human
Services, head of bioethics she was.
Okay.
Luke (06:33):
And she was moved.
But it seems that they just moved them to
different departments instead of just
firing them and kind of pushed them out
gradually.
What's your opinion?
Lara (06:42):
on that.
Okay, so that is true that she was moved to
some random desk, right?
Luke (06:48):
Well, she was eventually moved to Alaska
and yeah, I mean, this is a—.
Lara (06:52):
Isn't she looking at—she's on some
indigenous sort of task now yes, yes.
Okay, so we should know what that is.
Well, you know what the issue is with that,
Luke.
Luke (07:07):
She's actually—okay.
She's been reassigned from the National
Institute of Health in Maryland to the
regional offices of the Indian Health
Services in Alaska.
Per NBC.
Lara (07:13):
Indian Health Services.
They sent her to Alaska.
Yeah, to Alaska, that's great.
Sent her all the way up there.
Luke (07:18):
That's like going to the North Pole With
the.
Lara (07:19):
Eskimos Bye, bye, baby.
Okay, the thing about this woman is that
it's not a personal thing like, oh, you
know, fauci's wife, like you have to be
mean or vicious about his wife because he's
a small, murderous little creature, right?
No, it's because she was actually approving
(07:41):
things, right.
There was a conflict of interest, ethically
and professionally, and so her hands were
dirty too, and so Christine Grady should be
fired on her own merits.
Even if she wasn't married to Fauci, there
were things that she was involved in that
led to this.
(08:01):
But what we have seen is that, you know,
you have to have grounds to fire someone,
right?
And people have legal contracts, and
there's lots and lots and lots of push
inside the federal government and there's
lots of push outside the federal government
in lawfare, where they're suing every time
Donald Trump, I mean look, he got rid of
(08:22):
all those people that were temporary
employees, and then some judge told him no,
you got rid of all those people that were
temporary employees, and then some judge
told him no, you got to hire them all back
again.
I mean, these people are like Teflon, you
just can't fire them.
So I think I'm not saying it's the ultimate
solution, but I do think that what we're
seeing here is they're moving as carefully
as they can to stay within the law, because
(08:44):
otherwise I mean there's already how many
lawsuits have been filed against almost
every single action that they take.
Someone is filing something, so probably
the reason she was reassigned is to get her
out of the way, send a message away.
(09:09):
Send a message and also avoid a costly,
lengthy legal battle that would be.
You know, this tactic is just stalling them.
It's putting the Trump administration on
the defensive over and, over and over again,
and nobody wins on defense.
That's a bad idea.
Luke (09:19):
Right, and she was.
I mean, she led the charge.
Here's a video let's watch this of you know
what she during the COVID.
You know she was right there with Dr Fauci.
Lara (09:30):
Little Miss Mengele yeah.
Video (09:32):
And in the end, if people decide not to get
vaccinated, that in the end is their choice.
Even if they're a nurse, they may not be
able to work in the facility that they've
been working in, but they've made a choice
on their own, the thing that makes me and
in the end, that's the clip.
Lara (09:51):
Yeah, well, that's not so bad.
Why would we choose that clip?
Video (09:54):
Well, she's.
Lara (09:56):
I mean she is saying it's your choice.
Luke (09:58):
She's covering her butt.
Well, you should be fired if you work in
the nursing industry, well, she didn't say
that she said you may not work she didn't
say Well, I mean, you know how I am, you're
forced out.
No, you're forced out.
Lara (10:08):
Well, people were forced, but she didn't
say I'm forcing you out.
Yeah, I think you should have chosen a
different clip.
What else you got?
Luke (10:16):
I also have another one where they're
complaining about being, I just think, to
me accountability.
Going back to that, a lot of us just
speaking from the J6 community and I don't
(10:36):
want to be always a J6er, but this is still
pretty fresh that we're looking for
accountability in general and we're looking
for that's not the one, I'm sorry.
Yeah, well, I mean, let's talk about some
of the like you know.
This is, first of all, he's a small man.
Lara (10:51):
Oh, are you going to get personal now?
No, I'm not getting personal, but we
remember this is Do not get personal.
Luke (10:56):
I'm not.
Lara (10:59):
Although Fauci said a lot of nasty personal
things about me when I criticized him on
air, so it's not like I owe him anything,
but yeah, they did make him-.
Luke (11:08):
I think we do owe Fauci something I think
we can be personal.
I mean, he was telling us you know, this is
going back to 2020.
When I started speaking out, I was working
in the advertising world.
I was seeing all the propaganda, but he
originally said masks don't work and then
he changed it he changed it.
He's like no, three masks, four masks, five
masks, you can never, have enough masks,
(11:30):
you can never have enough masks.
Five masks you can never have enough masks.
Lara (11:32):
You can never have enough masks.
Yeah, he's a horrible little man.
Luke (11:34):
Yeah, he looks like a rat.
Okay, let's be honest, I will talk, I'll be
personal.
Lara (11:36):
Five times August.
You know he's a great musician.
He lives in Austin.
I love Brad.
He did a great little.
He did a fabulous song about Fauci, but
he's St Fauci right.
(11:57):
Yeah, well, the thing that gets me about
Fauci is that he destroyed people.
He helped to destroy families, economies,
entire nations.
He destroyed businesses.
He was responsible for people dying.
People died because of him.
There are women who miscarried because of
him.
There are women who miscarried because of
him, women who lost their babies because
these people lied and he and his wife were
(12:21):
basically working off each other.
It's corrupt and, quite frankly, it's evil.
So that's why, for me, it's not like yes,
he's smaller than her and you can poke fun
at him for that he looks like a rat.
Luke (12:34):
I mean that kind of well, he is a rat, he's
a rat.
Hey, can I play you guys, can I?
Keith (12:38):
play you guys a song video that I made
about fauci okay, yeah, yeah, I made.
Lara (12:43):
This is keith, this is keith.
I love moby.
I got, I got this got pulled fast Dr Fauci
what do you want?
Luke (12:55):
Where's your face mask?
Keith (12:57):
But I'm not sick, dr Fauci, I have a
present for you.
Luke (13:02):
It's time for your vaccine.
You don't want to die from a horrible
disease, do you?
Keith (13:09):
My mom says I have a better chance of dying
from a snake bite but all of your friends
are going to get it.
Video (13:15):
It's so true, trust me, boy.
Luke (13:16):
It's so true, just Fauci.
Keith (13:34):
Just Fauci.
That's Ty Fisher, by the way.
That's his voice.
Close your mind and thrust in thee.
Video (13:46):
Hold still.
Please Wear your mask.
Wear your mask, live in fear Because a
disease is always near.
Luke (14:05):
It's brilliant, keith.
It's for us, fauci.
That's my point.
What this?
This snake is still the snake lives.
Lara (14:18):
the snake lives without any punishment,
yeah well this is a this is a big question,
because people have lost their jobs and
been pushed out and their careers, you know,
might have, but they haven't.
That's not real accountability.
When people died because of you People,
young kids had developed myocarditis.
Video (14:39):
Yeah.
Lara (14:40):
You know that's permanent heart damage.
Video (14:42):
Right.
Lara (14:42):
I mean there were people with allergic
reactions who died.
I mean, what they covered up was
unbelievable.
Damn it.
I like that.
That's so cute.
Luke (14:54):
Play.
Did you do the animation, Keith?
Pretty good, Keith.
Keith (15:00):
Well, yeah, that's Disney animation.
Lara (15:02):
This is when you had a lot of time on your
hands, right.
Keith (15:05):
Well, this came out in April of 21.
Wait, yeah, something like this came out
pretty right in the heat of it.
How did this not go viral, man?
Because it got pulled from everything, oh
something like this came out, you know,
pretty right in the heat of it.
How did this not go viral, man?
Because it got pulled from everything, oh
don't you remember, of course, yeah.
This has been reposted since then.
Now it's up.
But, it was yeah, it got traction on
BandVideo.
Lara (15:25):
Oh, it's hilarious, it's brilliant On
BandVideo, but you put this.
You obviously were home during lockdowns
with time on your hands, right and he was
making wild music too.
Luke (15:35):
That was pretty incredible.
Just by himself, oh, tyler Fisher did the
voice.
He did a good job, he's great.
Lara (15:42):
It sounded like Fauci.
He doesn't need Fauci.
Keith (15:44):
Yeah, I found Tyler Fisher just on Twitter,
him doing his Fauci on.
Lance (15:51):
Twitter?
Was that before you knew him?
And then I reached out to him and I was
like hey, can I?
Keith (15:55):
hire you to do a voice for me.
Oh, that's great.
Luke (15:57):
That was before you got bigger.
Lara (15:58):
I'm sure I couldn't afford him now.
Luke (15:59):
Yeah, yeah, or maybe it'll go viral now
he's blown up.
Keith (16:07):
Yeah, he's a very he does a great Trump.
Yeah, in DC when we did that event that big
event in DC before the election yeah, Okay
what you got, Luke.
Lara (16:16):
what's next?
Luke (16:16):
Well, so I think we need to talk about
speaking of vaccines and poison.
We have a great sponsor that has a detox.
Lara (16:27):
Oh yeah, that's, true.
Ascent Nutrition right.
Luke (16:29):
Ascent Nutrition.
Lara (16:31):
I actually love Ascent Nutrition.
Right, Ascent Nutrition.
I actually love Ascent Nutrition.
Luke (16:33):
There's a kind of a lemony one that you do
right.
Lara (16:35):
The pine needle extract.
Okay, yeah, that has lemon flavor to it,
Because you kind of think what are pine
needles going to taste like.
But it's an oil.
It's a little dropper and I know it has.
Is it shishimic acid?
Is that?
Keith (16:46):
what it she can make see, Keith knows.
Lara (16:49):
Keith, you've been taking your pine needle
extract.
I have been.
Keith (16:51):
yeah, I see he's very good about that it's
awesome.
It's a detox.
It helps you detox from the toxic soup that
we all live in Also helps your lungs right.
Yep, it's good for your respiratory system
and immune system.
And your immune system.
Lara (17:10):
Yeah these are wonderful things that God
gave us.
They're kind of picky right Because they
don't have a huge lineup Like some of these
companies.
You go on there and I get overwhelmed.
I feel like I need a degree to understand
how to interpret my health Interpret it,
it's like another language.
Yes, but theirs is pretty easy because they
don't have an enormous amount of products,
because they go and source the real thing
(17:31):
where they can.
So I mean, I've actually really felt
different just taking the fulvic humic and
fulvic acid, most of which I couldn't even
pronounce, didn't know existed before we
got involved with the San Nutrition and
they started sponsoring us but I really
liked the company.
Luke (17:46):
But you sat down with Lance.
Lara (17:47):
Lance Shuttler, yes, that's right, who
explained a lot to me.
He did.
Keith (17:54):
So if you've had a Fauci ouchie, you need
to watch this.
Yeah, and I would say we're about to put on
our website.
It'll be up by the time this episode is out.
You can go and watch the whole interview
that you did with him, which was great.
In fact, he talks about the pine needle
extract.
Let's cut to that clip right now.
Lara (18:11):
I love it.
I know this is a big one for you.
Pine needle extract yes, why?
Lance (18:15):
back when the whole covid situation was
going on like at the height of it back in
2021, there were some doctors who started
talking about pine needle tea and the pine
needles.
The reason why they were talking about that
is because different compounds, but the
main one, shikimic acid.
So shikimic acid is what Tamiflu is, that's
(18:38):
the main constituent.
So shikimic acid, if you look it up on
PubMed, it has antiviral, antibacterial,
antifungal properties and also antiplatelet
and antithrombogenicogenic, and so what
that means is it can help support healthy
blood flow and unsticking the blood and,
you know, support that detoxification
(18:59):
process and things along those lines.
Another thing with the pine needle extract
is that you know, we know, how intentional
this whole system has been to suppress our
health and suppress the functioning of the
human body again, mentally, physically,
emotionally, spiritually.
It's not coincidental, very intentional, in
(19:21):
my view, and I think a lot of other people
believe this too.
Glyphosate targets something called the p53
gene, and the p53 gene is known as the
guardian of the genome, and this function
of this gene is to really help to make sure
that cells that might become cancerous
don't become cancerous and don't
(19:42):
proliferate and grow and become, you know,
oversized and form a tumor.
That's p53's main role and again you can
find this on PubMed it is the most studied
gene in the human genome P53, 70,000, plus
different studies, very well known.
Glyphosate targets P53 and other genes for
(20:05):
sure, but it very much targets P53.
And this is very well known it does what to
it, it suppresses the function of it and it
can turn off the function of it either
lower the function or turn it off
completely, depending on the person and
their, their physiology and all sorts of
other factors.
So shikimic acid, it's a.
It's formed in a process called the
(20:27):
shikimate pathway or shikimic acid pathway,
and glyphosate stops that seven step
process.
It's like the fifth step in that process.
It stops it, so shikimic acid can't get
formed and so then this indirectly hurts us.
So shikimic acid, if you can get it in the
(20:49):
diet can help to support the gut, support
the healthy microbes in the gut and in the
body, and does all the things that we
talked about helps support cleansing the
blood and optimizing the function of some
of these different genes.
Why would anyone ever consider we think of
vaccines as like we inject every child and
(21:11):
now all of a sudden, oh no, there must be
an area of research here, right?
So that's when we started looking into
aerosolized vaccines so.
Lara (21:25):
Luke.
Luke (21:26):
So, yeah, that leads us Fauci, leads us
into more.
Vaccines are still happening without us
knowing right.
So there's been rumors of there could be
vaccines in mosquitoes and the meat, but
now we're seeing evidence that there's
aerial vaccine dispersals happening.
Lara (21:44):
Yeah, it's like come on, are you serious
Like I don't?
You know you can't spray vaccines in the
air.
I mean that's a violation of every person's
individual sovereignty.
You know you have't spray vaccines in the
air.
I mean that's a violation of every person's
individual sovereignty.
You know you have a right to refuse medical
treatment if you don't want it.
I mean, it was because of Dr Joseph Mengele
that we have what's the Nuremberg Code,
right?
The Nuremberg Code says that you know, no
(22:08):
people can't force you to take medical
intervention like that, and so we don't
want it in the food, we don't want it in
the water, we don't want it in the air.
I mean this is ridiculous.
Luke (22:18):
I mean it is crimes against humanity, I
mean, if it's Nuremberg style, I mean.
So what they're saying is that this is mass
inoculation without our consent.
They're claiming the governments are using
aircraft to disperse vaccines over
populations covertly.
So we're not accepting this.
(22:38):
This is happening.
But a lot of people have heard of
chemtrails.
You know, yeah, so that has always been.
You know, and that was always a conspiracy
theory and denial.
Even if you search for it, it gives you it
fact.
Checks it right that it's not a true claim.
Lara (22:58):
But what have you what search engine are
you using?
Luke (22:59):
Well, I mean DuckDuckGo comes up.
What's the best?
One, the Russian?
Lara (23:04):
one.
They're all.
A lot of them suck, but it just bothers me
that they fact check your search.
It just bothers me that they fact check
your search.
I mean, it's like, who the hell do they
think they are?
Luke (23:12):
Well, to me, the fact check means that it's
actually that's truth, and they don't want
you to know it.
Lara (23:17):
So that's to me.
It's like, yeah, but it doesn't mean that
to everyone.
Some people think it's a real fact.
Check Exactly.
Luke (23:22):
Well, the ones that are asleep under the
spell.
Lara (23:24):
Okay, so look, this is the thing
complaining about chemtrails for a long,
long time.
And chemtrails are distinct from contrails,
right?
Because contrails when the plane goes
through the sky and it leaves sort of the
vapor behind it.
The difference with chemtrails is that this
idea that there's some kind of chemical
(23:45):
that you're looking at and the things that
people have pointed out are that the
patterns are abnormal, that if you have an
airport, if you live near an airport or you
know planes go by, there'll be contrails
will go in one direction consistently.
But when you see all this, you know these
white streaks crisscrossing across the sky
looks like a tic-tac-toe board, you know
(24:06):
right, and that's an obvious indication
that that's unnatural.
Keith (24:09):
Yeah, and then they, they start thin and
then they expand, yeah, and then they start
thin, and then they expand out into clouds
and then by a few hours, you've lost your
clear sky.
Now you have this man-made cloud cover.
Lara (24:23):
Yeah, and so now people are still treating
this as if it's conspiracy.
But how many states?
There's been a bunch of states that have
already banned chemtrails.
I think Tennessee was one of the first.
I think Florida is up there.
And so, since we're in Texas, I took a look
at this in Texas.
What have you got there?
Trump launches chemtrails task force.
Luke (24:46):
Alongside RFK and, yeah, we have checked
this out and it is, uh, apparently
happening.
Um, they're, they're coming after the
planes, the pilots, the scientists and the
shadowy overlords bankrolling these
assaults on humanity and, like you said,
this is, you know, comparable to nuremberg
(25:08):
2.0, and especially if they're doing this
like to, I mean, think about those that
weren't vaccinated um, we can't escape it.
That's what it seems.
This is men playing God, right?
Yeah, evil men playing God wanting to be
God.
And what do you think the reasons for these?
They care about our health, laura.
(25:28):
Is that why?
Lara (25:30):
Yeah, they care about our health.
Sure yeah, that's what they care about.
Video (25:33):
It's for the greater good.
Lara (25:38):
You know, the thing that bothers me is how
long they've been getting away with it and
how there are still people all across this
country that believe this is just a
conspiracy and it's not really happening.
So one of the things that I came across
when I was, you know, when we talked about
this as a potential topic for today, I
wanted to do it because I had recently
(25:58):
heard about the state of Texas moving to
band camp trails but making exceptions for
existing contracts.
So that leads you to think, okay, well,
what are those existing contracts?
So if you go to and anybody can do this
right, you can go to the Texas Department
of Licensing and Regulation and we can put
(26:19):
that up there.
This tells you all about the history of
Texans using cloud seeding to lessen the
impact of periodic, often severe, droughts,
and it goes back years, decades actually.
And there's, you know, they even tell you
there's a list here of all the different
(26:40):
contracts.
Look see, there's the South Texas Weather
Modification Association, west Texas
Weather Modification Association,
transpicos Weather Modification Association,
rolling Plains Water Enhancement Project.
I mean, these are this is multiple projects.
So they do both the cloud seeding because,
you know, there's different.
There's all kinds of reasons that people
(27:02):
cite for the chemtrails.
There's different kinds of weather
modification.
Some of it is to seed the clouds to create,
you know, rain.
Some of it is like this groundwater
conservation district, that is, it does
cloud seeding but also operations to
enhance rainfall and augment groundwater
recharge over the aquifer.
(27:25):
And so you know what things like this
confirm, luke, is that it's not a
conspiracy.
No, it's a fact.
Right, people have been maligned, probably
censored, attacked, ostracized for talking
about it, and you know what else that means
People in government, in local governments,
(27:46):
like in the state of Texas, engineers and
scientists and all the kind of people that
are involved in these industries.
They all know, of course.
They all know the truth and what burns me
and I'll be well behaved here and I won't
say a bad word even though I want to tame
your tongue, south African tongue of yours,
I know it gets naughty, sometimes off
camera.
(28:08):
I am happy to do it on camera well, don't
tempt me.
We got children watching no, what I will
say is all of these people they know.
It's just like when we interviewed Ilanka
Deaton on this show about child trafficking
in the music industry and she said all
those people that knew the photographers,
(28:29):
the makeup artists, the off-duty policemen,
the security guards, the people working in
the hotel where the events were staged all
of these people, the doctors and therapists
that piece these kids or survivors back
together.
It's the same thing with the chemtrails.
Luke (28:45):
Well, I mean, let's talk about the pilots.
I mean the pilots that are knowing like
yeah, where are these pilots?
No, no, no, I'm just flying a plane.
Keith (28:52):
They sign NDAs or something.
Video (28:54):
They know what they're doing.
Luke (28:55):
And they get paid good money, how evil.
Keith (28:57):
Yeah, they must be paid.
Luke (28:59):
But that's why the love of money is the
root of all evil.
You will do evil things for greed and money
and power.
Lara (29:06):
Okay so.
Luke (29:08):
And let me tell you, so you know, the
chemtrails, the claim they're used for
weather modification, which a lot of people
are like.
You know, I got attacked online recently
because I was, you know, posting some
reports about potential weather
modification with some of recent you know
things that have happened.
Lara (29:26):
Yeah, but you deserve that.
Usually when you get attacked, you deserve
it.
Luke (29:29):
I just defended you yesterday.
Okay, I'm kidding.
Keith (29:32):
I'm kidding.
Luke (29:33):
Weather modification, there's climate
engineering, military defense projects.
Lara (29:37):
Blocking out the sun.
Blocking the sun Bioweapons programs,
population.
Luke (29:42):
Population control.
Mass sterilization yeah, Weaken our immune
system.
Mind control potentially, I mean.
Lara (29:48):
So they have all these different oh yeah,
5G towers, 5G towers.
You know what they do, though, Luke.
This is the thing.
What can we actually prove?
We can actually prove, I'm sure, the state
of Texas not the only one with this kind of
documentation.
We know that weather modification has been
going on.
I think they even admitted it.
I think HAARP, right.
Luke (30:05):
Yeah, and cloud seeding is happening.
Yes, yes.
Lara (30:15):
But you're not going to be able to prove,
on the knowledge that we have available to
us, that they're using the 5G towers and
this and that Man-attack and all that right.
Now, it may be true.
However, what they do is they insert bits
of information that make you sound crazy or
that are impossible to prove, and they use
that to shut down the whole conversation.
Yeah, and we're tied to those tactics.
(30:36):
We don't do that on this show.
Luke (30:38):
We don't.
And yeah, there's, but we know that there's
aluminum and lithium and that's coming
Barium, barium, that's being.
I mean, why do we all need these detoxes?
Lara (30:50):
How do we know?
I mean when you say we know.
Luke (30:52):
Well, I mean, how do we know Keith?
Keith (30:55):
well, I, I've been um, I've been a long
time listener of Alex Jones and he uh, that
guy's a conspiracy he's been on this.
Luke (31:05):
We love Alex on this show.
Lara (31:07):
We are diehard Alex Jones fans and and so I
mean I was.
Keith (31:11):
I was just trying to look it up, but I
remember driving around Austin listening to
to this is 2006 maybe and he had a guy on
who was a Vietnam pilot.
In Vietnam who was they were doing weather
modification.
They knew how to.
They've been, they've known how to drive
storms like manipulate storms.
(31:34):
They can't always create them, but they can
make them worse.
And at least this was in Vietnam.
They could create this is so yet now.
Lara (31:44):
So this guy was a whistleblower.
Keith (31:47):
He was a no, so that was a firsthand
account that I heard on the radio that some
guy was speaking out and that was yeah,
2006 or something.
So what they do 2006 or something.
Lara (31:56):
Yeah, so what they do?
They take something like that where you
have people that speak up occasionally, you
know you get little bits of information or
you get official confirmation and then they
muddy the waters.
It's a tactic in information warfare called
ambiguity increasing.
They throw all these things into the mix,
right, right.
So now you're like, oh, I don't know kind
(32:17):
of what to believe in, especially if they
can throw something in there that sounds a
little crazy or hard to believe, and then
they can discredit the whole and shut down
the whole conversation.
Luke (32:25):
Right, exactly, and I mean that's.
I mean going back to 2013,.
There were Australia.
In Australia they had vaccine dispersal
claims, so they're saying that they and
they've resurfaced since then.
That said, the Australian government
approved the release of vaccines over
Queensland using aircraft.
Lara (32:45):
I mean, who are these people?
Luke (32:46):
Seriously, who are these people and think
about it.
I mean, it's connecting the dots.
Now, if you're a conspiracy theorist, we
should be celebrated at this point, because
we are critical thinkers.
We can not just accept yeah, we're prophets,
we're prophetic if you were speaking out
back in 2020 and being canceled like we
were or whatever but it's, that's the
(33:06):
reality of it.
These people are evil.
They're playing God.
I mean.
This is all opinion, of course, from every
man, and Okay, enough of Cantrell, you know
what Wait?
Lara (33:16):
every man.
Okay.
Enough of Cantrell.
You know what Wait?
Keith (33:17):
okay, keith, if you don't mind, I did just
find.
This guy's name is Ben Livingston.
He was a Navy physicist and pilot.
Yes, I remember I've seen those clips, yeah
and he advised apparently LBJ in the 60s
that this was a great, this was working.
Lara (33:35):
You wonder how many of the recent tragedies
have been caused because people mess with
the weather.
Right, I mean the floods and this and that,
Not to mention.
Okay, we're not going to go to the fires.
Hawaii.
Video (33:49):
No, we're not going there.
Lara (33:51):
I have a good guess for that, actually, if
we can get them to come on.
But, I'm throwing something in here.
That isn't on the schedule.
Luke (33:59):
I'm throwing in tariffs Okay, tariffs Okay.
Lara (34:01):
I'm throwing in tariffs because I'm not
sure.
I think tariffs are part of a broader plan.
You know, what no one's talking about is
that there's I can't remember the exact
number but trillions of dollars in
long-term government bonds that are coming
due and that nobody has the ability the
government doesn't have the ability to pay
(34:23):
them out.
So one of the things is, when you look at
the tariffs, it's really the easy button to
be able to say that, oh okay, now we're
going to have inflation, Goods are going to
go up, People are angry, so there's going
to be more tariffs.
We're not going to have inflation.
Goods are going to go up, People are angry,
so there's going to be more tariffs.
We're not going to have more access to
goods.
But I want to say two things to people
about tariffs.
Number one don't assume this isn't part of
(34:46):
a broader strategy.
Right, Because what the tariffs are going
to do if the markets are down and the
tariffs are going to, potentially one
impact that it can have is to push people
away from the markets into government bonds,
which will push down the yields, and so
when those bonds become due, it's not going
(35:08):
to be as much.
So that helps to alleviate what is a very,
very, very significant financial issue
that's looming over us.
Second thing is with the tariffs.
You know, I just got to say to people
what's more important that your new luxury
car or the ability of the United States to
(35:28):
make its own gunpowder and medicines?
I mean, because that's what we're talking
about we literally do not manufacture
gunpowder in this country anymore, and
people I mean the Chinese, in this case,
the CCP they want to cut off your
antibiotics, your dialysis treatment.
You know, I don't know everything you need
for construction, all the chemicals that
(35:50):
you need for just about everything that
happens around us.
Gunpowder, I mean it's insane.
It's insane what we have allowed to happen
to us.
And just like we were lied to about the
chemtrails, we were lied to about
globalization.
And I know this because many years ago I
went to the Midwest.
I was on vacation and my husband at the
(36:12):
time, my wonderful first husband, his
family, came from there and we had to go to
Lake Okoboji in Iowa to sell his
grandparents' home and I saw entire towns
across the Midwest.
I saw what had happened, how middle America
and the middle class and the working class
had been decimated by globalization, and I
(36:33):
thought I was in the twilight zone, Because
back in New York, at 60 Minutes, where I
was a correspondent, nobody had ever heard
of that.
I mean, there were whole towns that had
just died out.
There were massive double-story houses with
the windows boarded up.
I mean, I believe his family sold his
grandmother's house for less than about
(36:54):
$9,000.
And that was like a six, seven, eight
bedroom house.
So this is a big deal taking back our
sovereignty and reestablishing our national
security.
We have an illusion of national security
right now.
Now, of course, there's other things that
you could argue that we have that would
compensate, but this is going to be tough.
(37:16):
It's going to require a little bit of pain.
People have to be willing to suffer and
speak up, and I'm done and you're done.
Keith (37:22):
That's it.
I did have something I want to say.
I don't know if you can cut this just say
it um so I'm a small l libertarian, I kind
of lean towards free markets not kind of of,
but I mean, I do believe like that's
ultimately the best path is for governments
to stay out of market manipulation period.
(37:43):
And I realized that it's easy for anyone to
philosophize about what the best system is
when we have real problems with the
imbalance, with the trade imbalance, right,
and so in my mind I see what Trump is doing
and, you know, even though I don't believe
tariffs are the ultimate answer and I don't
(38:06):
even think maybe you were saying what's
behind this, I think what could be behind
this is that it's a negotiation point, like
it's bringing people to the negotiation
table where there wasn't even a negotiation
table before.
Now they're like okay, no, okay, let's sit
and talk, let's talk and that's that's
(38:27):
really really good.
It's leveling the playing field so you
can't really complain about that.
I mean, you can obviously, but you can.
Lara (38:35):
You're an idiot if you complain about that?
Yeah, and I'm not.
If you don't want the playing field to be
leveled, you know you're nuts yeah, so I
think it's great that he's bringing people
to the negotiation table yes because,
ultimately, in a perfect world to be so, I
think it's great that he's bringing people
to the negotiation table.
Keith (38:51):
Yes, because, ultimately, in a perfect
world, it'd be like what Malay and him just
did, which is, no tariffs on either side.
Lara (38:54):
Right, they made a deal, yeah, With the
president of Argentina.
The art of the deal.
Okay, coffee, we're going to end every show
with a little bit of Luke.
So what you got for us this week.
Luke (39:08):
Well, I'll show you.
I call this the Tesla slide.
Lara (39:11):
Wasn't there a J6 thing you wanted to talk
about before that?
Okay, we can do both.
Let's do them both.
Luke (39:17):
So yeah, brandon Fellows, he's actually a
really funny I know, brandon, he's a funny.
Lara (39:23):
He's a good guy.
Have you met him in person?
I have.
Luke (39:25):
Yeah, I'm excited to meet him.
He's a funny guy, he's just.
I've seen a lot of interviews with him.
Lara (39:31):
And brave.
Luke (39:31):
And brave, very brave, yeah, yeah, but he
so he was actually seated behind Fauci when
he was testifying in Congress in this clip,
so she sets it up well here.
Keith (39:42):
But essentially this brandon fellows went
viral with his facial expressions as fauci
gave his tearful uh, his tearful testimony
in front of congress and it was dr fauci
and yesterday's congressional hearing is
from is a j6er and he just got out of
prison from the j6 stuff like two weeks
before this hearing then last night dr
(40:03):
fauci went on cnn to talk about the whole
thing.
Video (40:05):
Watch.
Were you aware that sitting behind you
today, we have him highlighted right now on
the screen?
But that person, that's Brandon Fellows.
He's actually a January 6th defendant who
was removed from the hearing later on and
as he was leaving, I don't know if you
could hear him, but we heard him on camera
shouting that he believed also that you
(40:26):
belong in prison.
Did you hear that?
I didn't hear it, but it was brought to my
attention before and there was also someone
behind me.
I don't know if it was the same person who
was identified as someone who just got out
of jail for being arrested for the january
6th I the.
Capitol.
(40:46):
Now what's somebody like that doing at a
hearing about COVID?
So they'll show his face this year, I mean
it was remarkable just to see who was in
that.
So he makes these funny faces my wife, my
three daughters, my three daughters.
They involved my wife and my three
daughters.
So yeah, Brandon, Look at his face.
How do you?
Luke (41:06):
feel my three daughters.
They involve my wife and my three daughters.
Video (41:08):
Three daughters.
Lara (41:08):
So yeah, brandon Wait look at his face.
Luke (41:10):
How do you feel he's laughing?
Video (41:12):
Keep your mic on.
Keith (41:13):
Terrible he's crying.
Terrible Brandon.
Video (41:15):
Fellows needs protection at all costs.
Lara (41:16):
Okay, somebody needs to buy it.
Was he dunking on purpose?
Yes, of course.
Like he knew that the cameras were on him.
Luke (41:23):
I think he knew he sat himself behind her.
Lara (41:25):
I should have asked him when I saw him.
Well, he.
Luke (41:27):
I mean that's what I heard, that he knew.
I mean he purposely tried to get right
behind him and was like making the pouty
faces and he was asked to leave and he said
you're the one that belongs in prison, or
something like that.
And he literally had just gotten out of
prison a few days before for January.
Lara (41:42):
So I love how they don't think okay, I love
how seriously they take themselves.
First of all, you know and I get why.
I mean he's making fun of Fauci, so I guess
why there's no humor, but that CNN actually
does a segment on it, oh no, this just
shows you how lost these people are, and
also this idea that ordinary citizens don't
(42:03):
have a reason to be at a COVID hearing.
Right, you locked us up.
Luke (42:08):
Well, that's the reality.
Yeah, exactly All of us.
Lara (42:11):
Yes, you locked us up.
You took away our rights Exactly.
You prevented.
I couldn't bury my father.
I had to bury him on Zoom.
You let people die in nursing homes.
Luke (42:20):
Well, he's saying there should not be a
terrorist behind him sitting.
Lara (42:23):
Oh a terrorist.
Brandon Fellows be a terrorist behind him
sitting.
Luke (42:25):
Oh a terrorist that brandon fellows wasn't
convicted of terrorism.
Neither was I, but for four years I was a
terrorist and even if he had been, he'd
been pardoned, right.
Lara (42:32):
I just um, I I do.
I love that brandon fellows did that, and
you know what I really why?
Not just because because fauci deserved it,
but because it speaks to the spirit amen it
speaks to the spirit of a bold, really
unafraid American, somebody who knows, no
matter what they did to him, no matter all
(42:54):
the lies that have been told about January
6th, all the intimidation from law
enforcement and our political leaders on
both sides of the aisle Republicans as well
disgusting.
And in spite of all of that, that guy had
the.
Luke (43:10):
you know he had what it's, as you say in
panama the going rogue, the going rogue
spirit, that's right.
Keith (43:16):
Yeah, that's the going rogue spirit.
Lara (43:18):
Yeah, he had it and you know what?
Uh, there's a lot of people in this country
who haven't.
These people haven't begun to find out.
Luke (43:24):
That's right.
And so the other thing about the left they.
There's a lot of stuff we can laugh at, you
know, and I don't think they laugh at
themselves, but the, the, the bizarre
behavior that is happening and that's to
close us.
If you could go to the previous clip.
Well, you say the left, I say the, the,
what, the woke, I don't know the deluded.
Lara (43:44):
You know I hate the left the right thing.
I know I hate it too, the left the right,
the left the right, hey.
Luke (43:48):
I'm in the yeah, I don't.
I hate politics in general, but I'm saying
those that are under a spell, I don't know
a little spell.
Keith (43:54):
The deluded.
Lara (44:02):
Well, they self-identify as the left right
well, they do, but I, I do it.
Okay, this is gonna this is gonna be a good
one but I want to show you okay.
Luke (44:09):
So, first off, uh, this was at a.
This is how the the I, I, I am a fan of
these kind of protests.
Okay, and I'll show you why later.
I'll show you why later.
But, um, this, so this is uh what I call
the tesla slide.
Um, you'll see what they're doing.
We can go ahead and play it.
Lara (44:30):
And then there's a remix that one of your,
so I posted this one, you posted this one.
Yeah, because they're so stupid, You're
doing the.
Yeah.
I don't understand why they can't look in
the mirror and see that it's not cool, it's
not catchy.
It's not, I mean you're idiots.
Luke (44:42):
it's not, I mean you're idiots so what was
funny is one of your followers.
If you can play the next one, that looks
like the same should be after I posted it.
Lara (44:53):
Is this what someone responded right after
they posted?
Lance (44:56):
here, it goes through the beat that's
perfect let's do the beat too okay, that's
perfect.
Lara (45:06):
Play it again.
Play the beat too Okay, that's perfect.
Play it again.
Play it again, please.
Yeah, play it again.
Luke (45:10):
I wish it was longer.
I wish it was longer.
I did, I looped it, I thought it's
brilliant.
Lara (45:22):
Who is the clever person who did that?
Okay, no, no, no.
Watch the arm movements there, Luke.
Lance (45:27):
Watch the arm movements, oh yeah.
Luke (45:30):
We don't want to be.
Lara (45:31):
Elon.
Okay, I'm not.
I mean, that is much better.
Luke (45:38):
That goes better than that song.
So yeah, in closing.
Lara (45:42):
so I and just to be clear to be clear it
goes better with the song because the
tactics these protesters are using I mean
you don't like the guy's politics, so you
just go protest and burn down his
businesses.
They're going to learn.
Firebomb him.
Yeah, they're going to learn very soon that
this sort of kind of eco-terrorism is not
(46:04):
going to be rewarded and tolerated.
For very long I saw a fabulous video we can
show it on next week's show where a guy was
just dragging protesters out.
Luke (46:12):
He was huge, do you?
Video (46:13):
see that one he was huge.
Lara (46:15):
He was dragging the protesters out of the
street, it's like so that people can drive.
We're not doing this anymore.
You know what I mean and now yeah, you've
moved from the time where you could say,
okay, we'll let somebody know that they're
using child slaves and so we're going to do
an awareness campaign, and maybe you'll
have better practices.
Now we're at the part where you know what?
There's a great restaurant in Kervel, just
(46:36):
down the road from where we are right now
In the hill country In the Texas hill
country Carmine's.
Luke (46:41):
Carmine's okay.
Video (46:43):
Great Italian restaurant.
Lara (46:44):
I haven't been there yet.
They're being attacked by these kind of
tactics.
Because why?
Because they put up Trump flags and things
supporting Trump.
Lance (46:52):
These are Marxist tactics.
Luke (46:53):
I mean right.
Lara (46:53):
You're allowed to support Trump.
You can support one candidate.
I mean, if people want to fly Biden flags
or Kamala flags, if I don't want to eat
there, I don't have to eat there, but that
owner of that restaurant can put whatever
they want.
Up this idea that you can terrorize and
intimidate and attack people, use violence
to savage them into submission so that you
(47:15):
are the only person who's allowed to have
an opinion.
Luke (47:18):
They didn't call themselves a tolerant left
right, Aren't they?
Lara (47:20):
Yeah, remember that.
Yeah, remember.
Someone needs a dictionary.
Luke (47:23):
So yeah.
Lara (47:25):
Let me spell that for you Tolerance, T-O
yeah.
Luke (47:29):
Okay, what's next?
Well, just in closing.
So I thought they did, I would rate them,
and I can rate them because my time as a
struggling artist in California, in Los
Angeles city of fallen angels I was a emcee
and I dressed as a fool, I was a clown and
I taught people the electric slide.
That was part of my job.
(47:49):
So you can go ahead and play this.
This is from about 20 years ago.
Lara (47:53):
So this reminded you of.
Is this you?
Yes?
Luke (47:56):
Oh, I MC corporate events and I teach.
Part of that is getting people involved in
dancing Not the most we dance.
You remember I got my brothers here.
They're going to help me out.
Tell me what we do.
Lara (48:10):
You just rocked up in the gym and did this,
yeah.
Luke (48:13):
I'm a strange guy.
Lara (48:15):
Was it set up?
Luke (48:16):
No, I just recruited them.
Lara (48:19):
When you got there, they didn't know.
No.
Luke (48:24):
So you got to add a little more.
They need a little more, you know, jive to
it.
A little funk.
Lara (48:32):
Let's do it.
Okay, do it here, luke.
Nice, we'll do that.
We'll do that on the road.
Luke (48:37):
We'll do that on the road.
Love it, that's it, yeah.
So yeah, that's just saying they didn't
have the pizzazz, the pizzazz that maybe.
And the enthusiasm that you wanted the
enthusiasm that I would want if I was
teaching them and directing them Right.
Keith (48:52):
But you had some.
Yeah, you had sort of a macho, sort of a
manly take on the electric slide.
Luke (48:59):
Well, there was some I was an.
Elvis impersonator as a child.
Lara (49:02):
I was going to say that was definitely very
Elvis, that outfit yeah well, there was
some pelvic thrusting and it was an Elvis
jumpsuit.
Luke (49:08):
So I was taught as a young boy to imitate
Elvis by my mother.
Lara (49:14):
Something's wrong with that.
Okay, that entire sentence.
Luke (49:16):
that was very wrong you sure you don't want
to rephrase that?
Well, no, I was a big Elvis fan growing up.
You know Lionel Richie and Elvis.
Lara (49:23):
The other Elvis impersonator that I
interviewed was Bruno Mars.
Bruno Mars as a child, too, right I?
Luke (49:29):
was an Elvis impersonator as a child.
I really was.
I did birthday parties, okay, but I lip
synced him.
I was a lip syncing star.
Lara (49:36):
Okay, and like Bruno was today, bruno was
actually, he was a real star.
Luke (49:41):
I was acting like a star Luke, can you sing,
though?
No, I can't, but I would love to.
Keith, you have me beat.
You look like you could be a kind of that
you could be an Elvis.
Lara (49:49):
Take us out.
Luke (49:51):
Baby, take them north.
Lara (49:52):
No, I don't have that's good, do it Come on,
give us some Elvis, some Jailhouse Rock.
Luke (49:59):
Wouldn't do a party in the county jail.
Prison band was there.
Prison band was there.
They began to wail.
Drunk boy john was jumping at it.
John began to swing.
You should have heard him, dark doubt
jailbird singing let's rock home, baby.
Let's rock.
Everybody at the jailhouse rock, which is
ironic because that was my favorite song
(50:19):
because I spent time in the jail after you
spent time in jail okay, that'sth, so let's
end it there.
Lara (50:24):
Okay, that's the end of this week's edition
of Rogue Roundtable.
Thank you very much for joining us.
I'm getting better at this.
Go to my website, lauralogancom, if you
want to like or share or subscribe, and
even better if you want to keep us doing.
Whatever this is.
Luke (50:40):
Independent journalism and fun.
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And support independent journalism.
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Thank you for watching, guys.
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