Fighting Lawfare & the Deep State: One On One with Mike Davis | Episode 9 - Going Rogue with Lara Logan

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Mike (00:00):
When you use intel agencies and law
enforcement to illegally go after your
political opponents for non-crimes, that is
the definition of a conspiracy against
rights, a very serious federal civil rights
felony under 18 USC Section 241.
And so I would say to all of those people

(00:21):
you just named, and many, many others
lawyer up.

Lara (00:36):
Welcome back to Going Rogue with Laura
Logan.
My guest today is someone who is at the
forefront of President Trump's legal
battles, a man who has known the president
for some time and who is not afraid to say
exactly what he thinks, which is my kind of
person.
Welcome to the show, mike.

Mike (00:56):
Davis, thank you for having me.

Lara (00:57):
Mike Davis.
Okay, Mike, so can you give us just a
little sense of what does it mean?
I know you're the founder of the Article 3
Project, which is a conservative legal
advocacy group.

Mike (01:09):
Yep.

Lara (01:11):
And can you explain what you do?

Mike (01:14):
Well, I get on Twitter and I fight with
people.
I've noticed that, but besides, that, so I
started the Article 3 Project back in 2019.
I was the chief counsel for nominations on
the Senate Judiciary Committee.
I helped Gorsuch get through the process as
my former boss on the Supreme Court you
were a clerk for him.
I was a law clerk for Justice Gorsuch twice.
I was his first clerk back in Denver,

(01:37):
colorado, in 2006 or whatever it was, and
then, 10 years later, I was his first clerk
on the Supreme Court as the elderly law
clerk, helping him get set up until he got
the younger, smarter law clerks to come,
whatever it was.
And then, 10 years later, I was his first
clerk on the Supreme Court as the elderly
law clerk, helping him get set up until he
got the younger, smarter law clerks to come
and replace me.
But so I went to the Senate Judiciary
Committee to work for Senator Chuck
Grassley from Iowa, my home state senator.

(01:59):
I was his chief counsel for nominations.
I had opened his mail right out of college
and then 18, then 17 years later, I was one
of his lawyers to help him get President
Trump's judicial nominees confirmed,
including Justice Kavanaugh.
So, that was first time around.
Yeah, that was in the first two years and I
did that for two years and I saw during the

(02:19):
Kavanaugh confirmation that the right had a
void with someone who had insider
experience, who was willing to go fight.
And so I had those things.
I had worked in the Bush 43 White House.
I had worked in the Justice Department.
I had worked for House Speaker Newt
Gingrich.
I had worked in the Senate.
I've kind of clerked on the 10th Circuit

(02:40):
Court of Appeals, clerked for the Supreme
Court, worked for a US attorney.

Lara (02:45):
So you've had just a little experience.

Mike (02:50):
Not at all Just enough to go into these
jobs and break all the China and get chased
out.
So I saw that we had to set up a group who
was willing to fight back against the left.
So that's why I started the Article III
project.

Lara (03:00):
And what do you mean?
Fight back against the left?
What does that mean to you?

Mike (03:04):
For me, when you grow up with red hair,
you're kind of used to getting into fights
and getting punched in the face.
So if you're not getting punched in the
face, you don't know what's happening.
So I always say the people on the right
just need to have thicker skins.
We need to stop caring what people think
about us, and the Democrats always use race,

(03:27):
racism, sexism, homophobia, transphobia
whatever phobia they want to use.
We need to stop caring.
We need to follow our principles and do
what we think is right and get the job done.
And who gives a damn what people think
about us?

Lara (03:41):
Well, it's interesting that you raise that
because right now there is a growing sense
among a lot of people I don't know if you
want to call them conservatives on the
right, republicans, trump supporters,
whatever you want to call them but when you
read what people are saying publicly and
you listen, there's a sense of frustration

(04:02):
that Republicans, trump gets elected,
everything goes nuts right.
The media screams and shouts every day.
You know, in Congress they're screaming and
shouting every day.
They're on the streets protesting,
screaming and shouting, burning down cities
and it's just, it's complete chaos.
They do every single thing that they can

(04:23):
Apparently.
You know every attorney that ever worked
for the ACLU or anyone else is busy filing
a lawsuit.
It's a cacophony.
And then Biden gets in to office and
where's the right?
We're conservatives.
And then Trump gets back in.
It feels like the same playbook over and
over and over again and you actually watch

(04:45):
people commit crimes like treason and
sedition.
I mean, there's there was a real seditious
conspiracy that was carried out to
undermine trump in his first term and
undermine illegally elected, take trump out
of it, illegally elected president and the
will of the people and all of those people
who were involved in that.
They were all active during the Biden

(05:06):
administration and now they're doing it to
Trump again.
Same people, same playbook.
What the hell is the right doing?
What the hell are you doing, mike?

Mike (05:14):
Yeah, that's exactly right.
I always say that too many Republicans are
the string orchestra on the Titanic.
They want to look majestic as the Titanic's
going down, and I'm not that type of
Republican.
I want to fight.
I want to fight the left.
We need to stop being wimps on the right,

(05:35):
particularly Republican lawyers.
We have to learn how to play the game like
the Democrats.
Play the game, use their tactics and beat
them right, because the only thing the left
respects is power.
That is their goal, or God is power on
earth, because they're godless mostly, and
so their religion or strategy to their goal

(05:58):
or God of power is Marxism, but they can't
publicly talk about being a Marxist is
Marxism, but they can't publicly talk about
being a Marxist.
And so they use various tactics or
religious sects to divide and conquer us,
whether it's BLM, antifa, hamas, 15
pronouns transgender chaos anything they

(06:19):
can do to divide and conquer our country.
That's what they do.
It's driven by Soros, it's driven by Obama,
it's driven by China, and what they want to
do is they want to make us hate each other
as a country.
They want us to hate our country and
they're going to destroy us from within.
It's subversion.

Lara (06:37):
Yes, and I would say to you that it's not
just the left or Democrats.
There's plenty of that within the
Republican side.

Mike (06:44):
Democrats.
There's plenty of that within the
Republican side.
Yeah, I mean, they're the useful idiots as
I, as I call them.
There's the or traders, or the traders, the
people who sell out for money.
But the rhinos, yeah, exactly, I mean you
see this.
You see these on the courts, right?
You see these with the judges.
You see these radical Obama and Biden
activist judges, hardcore leftist, hardcore
Marxist.
And then you have their useful idiot

(07:04):
Republicans, republican judges and lawyers
who think that this is our parents' and
grandparents' Democrat Party, still that
these are liberals who love America and
just disagree with us on the best way to
get there.
These are leftists.
They hate America.
They hate free speech.
They believe in censorship under the guise
of protecting us from misinformation and
disinformation.
They hate equality.
They believe in censorship under the guise

(07:25):
of protecting us from misinformation and
disinformation.
They hate equality.
They believe in equity.
We see this with BLM.
They hate due process.
They believe in politicized and weaponized
justice right.
Until Republicans, particularly Republican
lawyers, understand what we're up against,
we're never going to defeat this.

Lara (07:42):
What does it take?
I mean, I don't know what it takes for them
to understand what we're up against.
I mean, when I say we, you know I don't
define myself as Republican or Democrat.
I don't define myself in political terms.
I get, you know, hammered because anything
I say, it gets miscast as being.
You know, I'm extreme right wing, I'm a.
You know whatever they want to say about me,

(08:04):
but the reality is, if you believe in
freedom today, that makes you right wing.
If you believe in tolerance, that also
makes you right wing.
If you believe in equality, somehow that
makes you right wing too.
I mean, I don't really know how we got from
where we were from this place where

(08:25):
tolerance was sort of the whole idea of of
the left, and now it's become sort of this
extremist value, it's sort of it's.
It's it's crazy how quickly that has
happened, because it really, you know, they
built, built, built towards that and then
it accelerated Right and I and I guess it's
it's part of what you would call ambiguity
decreasing in information warfare right,

(08:48):
where there was so much deception involved
originally that you didn't see people for
who they were.
But as ambiguity decreases, you start to
see people reveal themselves for who they
truly are.

Mike (09:01):
Yeah, they really took off their masks
after the BLM riots and after the COVID
lockdowns.
We really saw them for who they are.
We saw this during the lawfare against
President Trump over the last four years.
They tried to bankrupt him for non-fraud.
They tried to throw him in prison for the
rest of his life four times for non-crimes.

(09:23):
They tried to just illegally,
unconstitutionally, take him off the ballot.
They tried to just illegally,
unconstitutionally take him off the ballot.
They tried to take off his head.
They underfunded his Secret Service
protection intentionally.
Joe Biden said to put a bullseye on him in
the speech and said he was the gravest
threat since Hitler.
Essentially Put a bullseye on him and then
underfunded his Secret Service protection,

(09:43):
almost got him killed twice.
That we know about right, and thank God
President Trump won this election, because
I really think if President Trump would
have lost this election, our country would
have been over.
We would have lost control of the Supreme
Court and the federal judiciary, and then
it's game over America.
There goes our God-given rights to speak,

(10:05):
to worship, to associate, to protect
ourselves.
Everything was on the line this election.
Look, I grew up Catholic.
I'm not a terribly religious person.
I still have the Catholic guilt that comes
with 13 years of Catholic school.
But there is no question in my mind that
what happened at Butler, pennsylvania he

(10:28):
was saved by God, there's no question.
No, there's no question about that, there's
no question.
And that bullet went through his ear
because I think we had to see how close it
was to understand how close we came to lose
everything.
And look, I don't think President Trump is
a Bible beater, nor am I.

(10:48):
But I think even he would understand I
think he said this publicly that he has a
higher calling Now.
He has to save our country so we can save
the world.

Lara (10:57):
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So that means the best products put out by
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(11:18):
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(12:01):
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(12:45):
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(13:07):
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(13:29):
Forward slash, lara.
I really do want to say a very genuine
thank you to Lance for supporting our
podcast, for being willing to go rogue with
Lara Logan and my team and for being a
supporter of our work.
The only question I have is Lance is
willing to go rogue, are you?

(13:51):
You know?
The thing that bothers me, though, mike, is
you're not wrong.
I mean, people saw it.
People saw that bullet just miss Trump's
head.
I mean, it's just, it can only be an act of
God that does something like that.
But how quickly we forget, we still don't
even know.
Honestly, I spoke to a number of ballistic

(14:11):
specialists after that and not one of them
believes that there was that.
That guy on the roof was the real shooter.
They all believe that there was a second
shooter.
That's what they all told me, and we don't
have answers on that.
I mean, I just think it's extraordinary.
We are just.
We're really in an odd time, because it's

(14:32):
like we're in the midst of an undeclared
war, but everybody's pretending that things
are normal.

Mike (14:39):
Yeah, it's a spiritual war and we see
demonic forces in this world and we're up
against a lot of demonic forces all over
the world and I think it's driven a lot by
these godless Marxist monsters.
Right, they want heaven on earth, they want
power on earth.
That's what drives them.

(14:59):
They want to control the world.
They take sadistic pleasure in controlling
other people.
They don't believe in freedom.
We talked about this.
They're not liberals.
They talk about President Trump being a
fascist, which I think is just laughable.
How many fascists want to dismantle the
executive branch?

(15:20):
Why would a fascist want to get rid of his
power?
Why would he want to get rid of federal
agencies he controls?
If he's a fascist, why does he want to
return power back to the states and the
American people, as it's required under the
Constitution?
Why would a fascist do that?
They wouldn't.
The real fascists are the Democrats.

(15:41):
They're the ones who want to consolidate
power in Washington DC.
They're the ones who want unelected
bureaucrats, who are only accountable to
them, to control our lives.
They're the ones who want legislative,
judicial and executive power wrapped up
into the Tony Fauci's of the world right,
these all-powerful government officials who

(16:02):
can control our lives.
All-powerful government officials who can
control our lives.
The American people saw during BLM riots
and the mostly peaceful protests that
caused $2 billion in damage and killed a
dozen people and destroyed cities,
destroyed the Portland federal courthouse
on a nightly basis for six months.
The American people saw during the mindless,

(16:24):
science-free COVID lockdowns, where they
made up the cloth mask mandate, they made
up the six-foot rule, they lied about
vaccine efficacy.
They got away with it Because they're the
fascists who not only controlled
governments, they controlled media.
They controlled social media Before Elon
Musk came along, along, if you question yes,

(16:45):
they had complete and utter dominance and
control information control, information
dominance.

Lara (16:50):
Yeah, you know, they just dominated the
entire information space, but okay we are
terrible.

Mike (16:56):
We are terrible fascist.
If, if conservatives are fascist, we're the
worst fascist on the planet.
Right, it's the.
The democrat party has become the fascist
party that wants to control speech.
They want to control religion, they want to
control our movements, they want to control
what we think.
They want to control what we say.
That's the definition of fascism.
When you have governments working with

(17:17):
monopolists like Google, amazon, facebook
and Apple to control information, to
control commerce, to control our thoughts,
those are the fascists.

Lara (17:26):
Well, and if you go back and you look at it,
everyone just conveniently forgets that the
Nazi stands for national socialists.
Right, I mean, they were socialists.
And if you look at the platforms, neither
of them believe in God.
Communists are atheists.
Fascists don't want you to have a God

(17:46):
because they want to be the God.
Right that?
Neither of them believe in free markets.
They don't believe in free speech.
I mean, you start to go down the list and
you realize that they have more in common
than not.
Yeah, you know, but I think it's part of
this deception that we've been under.
It's projection, it's projection, they do
project.
They project their values onto you.

(18:08):
So it's just like these are the tactics
that they used against Trump when they
accused him.
What they accused him of doing in Ukraine,
joe Biden had already done.
They had already done it.
Every single time they accuse him of
something, they're projecting their own
behavior onto them, because attack is the
best form of defense.
Yeah, and it's worked for them.

(18:33):
I mean, if you remember when Dinesh D'Souza
first was a political commentator and he
came out and said that the KKK was the
party of Democrats, everybody went nuts.
It's true.

Mike (18:41):
And it's true.
Yeah, so it's.
I mean, look at what they do.
They do these, they do this deception, this
sabotage of the president, and they've done
this for eight years.
Remember Crossfire Hurricane.
Let's talk about what they did to President
Trump back in 2016.
Hillary Clinton, as you know, had her

(19:02):
illegal home server with our nation's most
classified secrets.
And not only that.
It had the Clinton Foundation pay for play
foreign bribery schemes.
Right, she's taking money into the Clinton
Foundation tens of millions of dollars from
foreign actors and she's the Secretary of
State.
Maybe, just maybe, that server had evidence

(19:22):
that she is doing official acts in exchange
for those tens of millions of dollars in
donations that they're getting from these
foreign actors quid pro quo, foreign
corruption.
They got caught with this illegal home
server.
It probably got hacked by the Chinese and
the Russians.
Maybe more Hillary thought she deleted this

(19:42):
home server.
She bleach bit it.
Remember, she destroyed the handheld
devices with a hammer.
But maybe, just maybe, the Russians and the
Chinese had a copy and maybe they were
using it as blackmail against her.
And maybe, just maybe, that server was
going to get released before the 2016
election.
And maybe, just maybe, that's why Hillary
Clinton and Perkins Coie made up the Steele

(20:04):
dossier, lied about Russian collusion, lied
to the FISA court, spied on Trump as a
candidate, spied on Trump as the president
of the United States.
Maybe, just maybe, crossfire Hurricane is
what's driving all of this lawfare, these
assassination attempts against President
Trump.
They're trying to destroy him because he

(20:25):
declassified Crossfire Hurricane and that's
why they tried to bankrupt him.
That's why they tried to throw him in
prison for the rest of his life.
That's why they frankly, I think that's why
they underfunded his Secret Service
protection when President Trump just this
week, last week, he declassified Crossfire
Hurricane again.
Right, and when that gets out, when they

(20:48):
start investigating Crossfire Hurricane,
the House of Cards is going to crumble on
the Democrats, on Obama, biden, hillary,
clapper, comey.
A lot of very bad actors are going to be
exposed with Crossfire Hurricane.

Lara (21:04):
Why didn't he do it the first time around?

Mike (21:06):
Here's what happened.
He wanted to get those records released and
remember the director of national
intelligence, the CIA.
They said you can't declassify these, you
can't make them public sources and methods.
Yeah, I remember.

Lara (21:22):
But wasn't that the DNI you're talking
about was Ratcliffe?

Mike (21:24):
Yeah Well, and then Rick Grinnell goes over
there with Kash Patel.
They declassify via presidential order.
The day before Trump leaves office, they
declassify Crossfire Hurricane.
They waited too long.
And then he declassifies them on January
19th 2021, the day before he leaves office.

Lara (21:42):
Yeah.

Mike (21:43):
The FBI, the intel agencies, run into the
White House and they say you can't publicly
release these sources and methods, sources
and methods.
You're going to get people killed.
So Mark Meadows, the chief of staff, issued
a memo on January 20th the day they leave
office, january 20th 2021.
Do your Privacy Act review and then get out

(22:06):
these documents.
Well, guess what?

Lara (22:08):
Of course, they didn't do it, they didn't
get out the documents.

Mike (22:09):
They did the Mar-a-Lago raid.
That was the point of the Mar-a-Lago raid
was to go get back those documents.
What happened was that after Trump left
office, he sued Hillary Clinton for a
crossfire hurricane civil lawsuit down in
Florida.
Bruce Reinhart's the magistrate judge on
the case.

(22:31):
He had the Trump's attorneys raise the fact
that he was anti-Trump.
He posted anti-Trump things on Facebook and
so he had to recuse from that case.
I remember Six weeks later, six weeks later,
Bruce Reinhart is the magistrate judge who
signs the Mar-a-Lago raid right?
So you have the intel officials, Jay Brat,
who went on to work for Jack Smith.
You had Jay Brat working with Bruce

(22:53):
Reinhart to do the raid on Mar-a-Lago.
How did his recusal issue from six weeks
prior, where he's trashing President Trump
on Facebook in 2017, how did that recusal
issue go when he signed that Mar-a-Lago
raid?
The point of the Mar-a-Lago raid was to get
back Crossfire Hurricane.
It was not for classified records.
Presidents have classified records all the

(23:13):
time.
They're allowed to have their presidential
records classified or not under the
Presidential Records Act.
It doesn't matter whether they're
classified.
That's why presidents get secure office
space, secret Service protection, security
clearances, SCIFs.
They get all that because they get to keep
their presidential records.
They can access their presidential records
anytime they want.
A presidential record is any document

(23:35):
created or received to advise the president,
and if the CIA is giving the president a
document to advise him, that's a
presidential record that the president can
access anytime he wants.
That's why he has the security clearances.

Lara (23:49):
Even when he's not the president anymore.

Mike (23:51):
Even when now Trump has Biden cut that off
for Trump when Trump left, and so Trump
just did the same thing for Biden.
They lost their security clearances, but at
the time Trump was allowed to have those
records right.

Lara (24:02):
Yeah, and you know who wasn't Was At the
time Trump was allowed to have those
records right.
Yeah, and you know who wasn't Was Biden,
when he was vice president, Because that
doesn't apply to the vice president.

Mike (24:08):
Well, he had six stashes of stolen
classified records from his time not only
as vice president, he had it from his time
as senator.
So that means he had to have like remember
that the national security advisor for
Clinton who shoved the classified documents
down his pants when he was at the archives.
That's essentially what Joe Biden would
have had to have done.

(24:29):
He would have had to have gone into the
Senate skiff and taken those records out of
the Senate skiff right To get them out of
out of the Senate skiff to his home.
And he they found those records.
They found six stashes of stolen classified
records moved several times, accessible by
their Chinese agent.
Joe Biden is on tape sharing these

(24:49):
classified records with his ghostwriter to
publish in a book.

Lara (24:53):
And he says that these are classified.

Mike (24:56):
I'm not supposed to show these to you, he
didn't even deny it.
And then Hunter is using almost certainly
using classified records on Ukraine to
draft a 23 paragraph memo on Ukraine to
secure millions of dollars in Ukraine
funding.
Because when you look at Hunter Biden when
he's not smoking his crack pipe and banging
prostitutes, he's clearly a geopolitical

(25:18):
expert in Ukraine, right?
Obviously he used stolen classified records
to do that.
Not a damn thing happens to Biden because
they found this at the same time that they
learned about these records that Trump was
allowed to have in the office of former
president.
They keep the Biden thing secret and sweep
it under the rug and then they do the raid

(25:38):
on Trump.
It's just unbelievable.

Lara (25:40):
Okay.
So it is unbelievable, and you know what it
really pisses me off.
And I'm not alone.
Okay, there's many people out there who
feel this way, and you know what makes us
even angrier?
They get away with it over and over and
over again.
I mean John Brennan, susan Rice, james
Clapper, hillary Clinton, mark Elias.

(26:02):
You know, I mean all of these people.
Jake Sullivan, they got to do it to Trump
the first time around and then nothing
happened to them.
They got.
You had to watch the Trump administration
dance to their tune over a this.
Oh, there was a that.
Then they go back into the government.
After the 2020 election was stolen, they go

(26:25):
back into the government.
They go back into positions of power.
They do even more damage.
They do all the things that you're talking
about, sweep all these things under the rug
and then, oh yeah, guess what?
Now they're doing it again.

Mike (26:43):
Well, I would say this that President Trump,
the first time he had never run for office,
he had never served in office, he made
mistakes.
He got a lot done, but he made mistakes and
one of the mistakes he made was hiring bad
people right and putting weak, bad people
in key jobs.
He's had four years in office.
He's had four years to reflect.

(27:06):
He's faced four years of lawfare.
During that time of reflection he was ready
to govern on day one.
This time he is not making the mistakes he
made in the first term.
He's hiring the right people, bold and
fearless people who are going in there.
And I would say this that when you use
intel agencies and law enforcement to

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illegally go after your political opponents
for non-crimes, that is the definition of a
conspiracy against rights, a very serious
federal civil rights felony under 18 USC
Section 241.
And so I would say to all of those people
you just named, and many, many others
lawyer up, because this is an ongoing

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criminal conspiracy the statute of
limitations has not even began to start
tolling because it's ongoing and you can go
all the way back to Crossfire Hurricane
eight years ago as part of this ongoing
criminal conspiracy against rights.
And so they should lawyer up that there is
a new sheriff in town at the Justice

(28:11):
Department in the name of Pam Bondi and
Kash Patel and many others, and I am going
to push very hard, very publicly, for them
to open a federal criminal probe under 18
USC.

Lara (28:23):
How is it not already open?

Mike (28:25):
Maybe it is.

Lara (28:26):
Okay, maybe it is.
You wouldn't tell us if it was would you?

Mike (28:30):
I wouldn't have that information.
Of course, I'm just a private citizen.

Lara (28:34):
Okay, I'll let you get away with that one,
for obvious reasons.
I mean, there's a big issue here which is
the legal issue is much bigger, but this is,
I mean, when you look at it, I mean it's
obvious, this is vast conspiracy and it's
not just Section 241.
What about treason and sedition?

(28:55):
Yeah, I mean because there is also a
seditious conspiracy where PETA stroke, I
mean FBI counterintelligence was involved.
Counterintelligence is supposed to be your
protection against this and you literally
have the head of the FBI, the head of the
CIA, the DNI, the counterintelligence

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officials within the FBI.
You have them working together as part of a
seditious conspiracy with lawyers, with the
Clintons and others, the Obamas, the Sally
Yateses of this world, the Norma Isons, the
David Brocks they're all working together.
I mean, are you telling them to lawyer up

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too?

Mike (29:36):
I think that anyone who is involved in a
conspiracy with intel agencies and law
enforcement to target your political
opponents for non-crimes, like they've done.
I would say to them lawyer up, justice is
coming, and when?
Well, I mean, you see these law firms

(29:58):
losing their security clearances.

Lara (30:00):
You see these law firms this is true, and
this is a good sign.

Mike (30:03):
You see them losing their government
contracts.
You see the ponds being taken out right.

Lara (30:10):
Yes, but you do see that.
However, poconskoui, the law firm,
immediately launched a lawsuit to fight
that.
So what many American people don't want to
see happen this time around is to see the
Trump administration be pushed.
Sure, trump came in ready to govern on day
one, no question about it.
He demonstrated that.

(30:32):
But what has happened since is over 150
lawsuits launched against his
administration and chipping away, chipping
away, chipping away.
Putting the administration back on defense
yeah, chipping away, chipping away,
chipping away, putting the administration
back on defense yeah.
And what people don't know is how much does
that derail the agenda?
How much does that stall?

(30:52):
How much time does that buy his enemies?

Mike (30:56):
Yeah.

Lara (30:57):
Because what they don't see is yes, people
are losing their security clearances, and
that's a big deal.
Yes, people are losing their government
contractsances, and that's a big deal.
Yes, people are losing their government
contracts.
We don't care about that anymore.
Dr Fauci was responsible for the death of
millions of people.
The fact that he doesn't have his job
anymore isn't good enough.

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Usaid has been funding a radical Marxist
agenda all over the world.
We have been giving out business loans to
children.
We have been sending Social Security and
Medicare payments overseas To dead people,
and to dead people 150-year-olds yes, and

(31:41):
no one has yet been held accountable for
any of that.

Mike (31:44):
Well, I don't know if that's fair because,
remember, we're two months in and look at
how much President Trump has done.
Look, he campaigned on the fact that he's
going to hire Elon Musk.
He's going to set up the Department of
Government Efficiency in Doge, he's going
to secure our border and he's going to get
illegal immigrants, particularly dangerous
illegal immigrants, particularly dangerous

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illegal immigrants from MS-13 and foreign
terrorists from Trende Aragua the hell out
of America.
And President Trump is actually doing the
unthinkable in American politics.
He's actually doing what he promised
American voters he would do.
The American people gave him a broad
electoral mandate 312 electoral votes, all
seven swing states, the popular vote.

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He kept the House.
He won a comfortable margin in the Senate.
The American people, they expect that he's
going to lead and he's leading.
He's leading on day one and that's why
these Democrat activists are panicking.
I mean, look what he's done.
He went and ripped the sign off of USAID
and he's canceled hundreds of billions of

(32:52):
dollars in government contracts and
spending.
And then, had a judge order him to pay it.
Well, that's just it.
And this is my point the Democrats' last
line of defense.
Because they don't have the House, they
don't have the Senate, they're losing these
executive branch agencies that were their
subversive actors, the deep state right.
They're losing all this and so they're

(33:13):
running to their activist judges right.
You have these Democrat lawyers running to
these Democrat activist judges,
particularly in DC, and they are sabotaging
the presidency.
They are sabotaging the president's core
Article II powers.
President Trump is not stealing legislative
power from Congress under Article I.
President Trump is not stealing the Supreme

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Court's judicial power under Article III.
He is exercising core Article II executive
power, right, and that's what the American
people elected the president to do.
And you have these activist judges who are
sabotaging the presidency.
And I would say this I've said this very
publicly to the chief justice and I clerked
on the Supreme Court.

(33:56):
I know John Roberts, I like him personally.
I disagree with his judicial philosophy,
but I like him.
I would say this to the chief Justice I was
the Chief Counsel for nominations on the
Senate Judiciary Committee.
I had the oversight portfolio for federal
judges.
If the Chief Justice does not get his
judicial house in order.

(34:17):
Congress is going to do it for him and I'm
working very closely right now.
What do you mean?
How, through legislation, through cutting
their funding, through forcing legislation
to cut their power, to doing oversight for
impeaching the most radical of these judges
who are sabotaging the president and
putting our national security in danger?

(34:37):
Why hasn't that begun?
It has so we had, for example, you had a
member of the House who has introduced
articles of impeachment against DC Obama
Judge Jeb Andrew Ogles.
He's one of them.
He's the Tennessee guy.
There's a new congressman from Texas,
brandon Giles, who introduced articles of

(34:58):
impeachment against DC Obama judge, jeb
Boasberg.
Let's look at what Jeb Boasberg did.
This is an Obama judge who went into his
courthouse a couple Saturdays ago, opened
up his courthouse even though he didn't
have the emergency docket that weekend.
It was assigned to a different judge.
He opens up his courthouse during the

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middle of President Trump's ongoing
military, intel and law enforcement
operation to get the most dangerous
terrorist in the Western Hemisphere, trende
Aragua, along with the most vicious gang in
the Western Hemisphere, ms-13, the hell out
of America he had.
President Trump was working with one of our
key allies, the president of El Salvador,

(35:41):
to take these terrorists, to take these
vicious gang members, into El Salvador.
This Judge Boasberg opened a hearing during
the middle of this, exposing the military
operation putting American and allied lives
in grave danger.
We saw the security footprints in El
Salvador.
We saw hundreds of people in law
enforcement, intel, military in El Salvador

(36:02):
ready to accept these dangerous terrorists.
This judge actually ordered the planes of
these terrorists to turn around.
This judge didn't know the fuel levels.
He didn't know the security footprint we
had in America versus El Salvador.
Why would we have had that security
footprint in America that we saw in El
Salvador?
Because who would have imagined that a
judge would go into his courthouse on a

(36:24):
Saturday, publicly expose, sabotage this
operation, publicly expose it and then
order planes to turn around, right?
I always joke that Judge Boasberg is not
qualified to be an air traffic controller
under the prior administration because he's
not a black transgender woman.
So I don't know how he thought he could
have ordered this, but he did it anyway.

(36:45):
It's unbelievable.
It was not only so lawless, it's dangerous.
It put American and allied lives in danger.
It harmed the president's ability to
conduct foreign affairs.
Why would another leader want to take the
tremendous risk of taking these terrorists
and gangbangers into his country if a judge
is going to expose it and then make him

(37:06):
look like an idiot because he's standing
there with hundreds of people awaiting
these terrorists and they don't show up,
right?
I mean it was so dangerous what this judge
did.
This is why, at the Article III Project,
we're calling for this judge's impeachment.
I've never done that before.
I've never as a lawyer, an officer of the
court, I've never said, I've never told
someone to ignore an order.

(37:26):
I very publicly said, the president should
ignore this order from this judge, and I've
also never called for a judge's impeachment
like this, and I'm doing it with this judge
because this is so dangerous what these
judges are doing.
They're radical judges who are trying to
sabotage the president because they have
political and policy disagreements.

Lara (37:45):
At this point, though, I mean, if you look
at the track record from the very first
moment Trump was elected, the last time, I
mean it really doesn't surprise me that
they will do anything possible to stop him.

Mike (37:58):
Yeah, they tried to bankrupt him.
They tried to throw him in prison four
times.
They tried to take him off the ballot.
They tried to take off his head.
Of course they will.
They'll do anything.

Lara (38:05):
So I mean turning the planes, ordering the
planes to come around.
I mean, that doesn't surprise me that they
would do that.
Remember the ban that Trump put on the
first time around.
They stopped that, especially when it comes
to the immigration issue, because it goes
to the heart of the invasion of this
country.

(38:25):
It goes to the heart of the globalist war
on sovereignty and borders and sovereign
nations, individual sovereignty, national
sovereignty.
I mean, this is really one of the core
tenets of their strategy and they're going
to defend it at every cost, and it's also
one that's pretty easy for them to defend.
That plays well for them in certain areas,

(38:47):
because right now, what they're arguing is
that you have no proof that these people
are Tren de Aragua.

Mike (38:57):
You've got people.
I've seen some of them, besides their Tren
de Aragua, tattoos all over their bodies.

Lara (39:00):
Well, I mean, some of them have the tattoos
all over their bodies, but some of them
don't, right?
And so there's attorneys representing some
of these people that have posted pictures
of them online showing look at this
sensitive guy and he's doing this and doing
that, and there's no proof that he is a
member of Trenderagua.

(39:20):
So now you face this.
They're now arguing that and I think a
judge didn't a judge just rule in their
favor on this that you can't remove people
without due process, that they get to know,
if they're accused of being a gang member,
what the basis is for that.

Mike (39:36):
Sure, there's minimum process.
But here's the problem Judge Boasberg was
not the right judge to do this.
The relief you seek is habeas relief in
Texas.
That's where these gangbangers were flying
from.
So you go to Texas and you file a habeas
petition with that judge in Texas.
They didn't want to do that.
They wanted to go to a radical judge in DC

(39:58):
who did not have jurisdiction over this
case, because they knew that radical judge
in DC is going to side with bringing
terrorists Is going to do whatever they
want.
Yeah terrorists and gangbangers back into
America, right.
And so there is due process.
There is a process that you go through.
It's a habeas process in the state from
which you're being deported, not running to

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Bozo the Clown, bozberg the Clown in DC and
having him expose an ongoing military
operation and turn around planes, or try to
turn around planes as the black trans air
traffic controller from the DC courthouse.

Lara (40:34):
So where does that particular fight stand
right now?

Mike (40:38):
The DC Circuit panel just heard the
emergency stay.
They sided with Judge Boasberg and so it's
going to go to the Supreme Court.
And again I would say, and the judges just
clearly got it wrong they think that this
was a policy change that would be subject
to the APA, the Administrative Procedures

(41:01):
Act, that would allow the DC court to hear
this, which is just total nonsense.
This is a habeas claim that should have
been decided by a Texas judge and so the
Supreme Court's going to have to decide
this.
And I would say to the Supreme Court if you
let these activist judges sabotage the duly
elected president of the United States, who

(41:22):
just won a broad electoral mandate, on the
fact that he's going to protect our country,
which is very clear he has the right to do,
including a recent Supreme Court.

Lara (41:30):
The Constitution is clear on that.

Mike (41:31):
Yeah, the Article II of the Constitution,
along with the Supreme Court's 2018 ruling
in Trump versus Hawaii.
That makes it very clear.
The president is acting very lawfully here.
If the Supreme Court does not stop these
activist judges from sabotaging the
president, he's going to start ignoring
these orders, as he should.
And then I would say to the Supreme Court

(41:51):
how are you going to enforce it?
Are you going to send your law clerks to go
enforce your orders?
Because if the president ignores your
orders because they're lawless and
dangerous, then it is a disaster for the
Supreme Court, it is a disaster for the
federal judiciary, it's a disaster for the
country, because when the Supreme Court
loses its legitimacy, it loses everything.

Lara (42:15):
So this would be catastrophic.

Mike (42:17):
Yes, no question.
And the chief justice needs to understand
that, whether the Washington Post or the
New York Times writes a good or a bad story
about him, he needs to understand.
This is the red line.
If they are going to let activist DC judges
tell the president of the United States he

(42:37):
cannot deport a foreign terrorist out of
our country, he's going to ignore those
orders, as he should, and then the Supreme
Court's going to lose everything.

Lara (42:47):
The counter-argument, though, is how do you
know they're terrorists?
And are you sure they're terrorists, and
what is that based on?
And you're saying that's a habeas issue
that should have been addressed in Texas,
but they didn't give anyone an opportunity
to address that in Texas, did they?

Mike (43:03):
Well, they could have filed a habeas
petition in Texas.
They filed it in DC.
Why couldn't they have filed it in Texas?
Which they should have if they were
following the law Because they knew that in
Texas you have judges who actually follow
the law.

Lara (43:15):
Yeah, as opposed to Judge Boesberg, who's
an activist.
Yeah, they had time to file in DC.

Mike (43:19):
Why didn't they have time to file in Texas?

Lara (43:22):
But it's halted the deportations right.
I mean they're not doing any more of them.
Maybe, Mike, I mean.

Mike (43:32):
I'm just a private citizen.
I I mean, I'm just a private citizen, I
don't know.

Lara (43:35):
Okay, well, it appears, it appears publicly
to have halted the deportations.
At this point, I mean certainly, if there's
any more for of Trenda Aragua, which you
know for is a terrorist organization now
actually right?
So it's, it's, it's not being released
publicly.

Mike (43:56):
I would say this Isn't it amazing that,
after the Biden Justice Department made
January 6th the biggest law enforcement
operation of all time and spent four years
hunting down every grandma who trespassed
and took selfies on January 6th, and these

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judges let these January 6th defendants get
persecuted yes, persecuted, under the
Supreme Court's Fisher ruling, when the
Justice Department politicized, weaponized,
contorted a post-Enron obstruction of
justice statute intended to go after
corporate fraud?

Lara (44:34):
You mean the 1512 charge?

Mike (44:36):
To go after political enemies.
They used a felony obstruction charge to go
after Trump supporters on January 6th.
These judges did not give a damn about
these due process rights of these
defendants.
They let these people suffer in jail before
their trials for months and months and
months.

Lara (44:55):
They let them get abused in the DC.
They violated their Fifth Amendment rights,
their Seventh Amendment rights, their
Eighth Amendment rights.
I mean not one of them got a fair trial,
not one of them got a speedy trial, not one
of them got.
You know, they violated their Fourth
Amendment rights with these by raiding
their homes with SWAT teams for nonviolent
misdemeanor offenses, yeah.

Mike (45:14):
I mean and Boesberg is one of these.
So I don't want to hear Boesberg cry about
due process rights of foreign terrorists
who are kidnapping, robbing, raping,
torturing and murdering Americans.
I don't give a damn about those people.

Lara (45:29):
He didn't give a damn about due process
rights of Americans.

Mike (45:33):
Trump supporters when Boesberg the clown
starts caring about the January 6th
defendants and how their due process rights,
their constitutional rights, were clearly
violated.
Yes, according to the Supreme Court's
Fisher ruling, they were persecuted.
When these DC judges start caring about
Americans, then I'll start caring about

(45:53):
Tren de Aragua and MS-13 due process rights
and tell them I don't give a damn.

Lara (45:58):
So what about the argument?
And you talk about impeachment right.
What about the argument that they're not
going to get impeached?

Mike (46:08):
Well, I don't.
This is where I differ from a lot of
Republicans.
I don't care if they get impeached and
removed.
I want the process to be the punishment.
I want them to spend their time defending
themselves in an impeachment proceeding
instead of moonlighting as an air traffic
controller and ordering the president to
turn around planes full of terrorists.
It sounds like, after they persecuted Trump

(46:31):
supporters for four years and Trump
pardoned the Trump supporters and dismissed
their cases, these judges in DC are bored
Right, and so let's keep them occupied with
impeachment instead of where they think
they can go, sabotage the president.
Right, you know it's when they're idle they
do dangerous things.

Lara (46:49):
So how do you address the argument that no
one is above the law and judges have a
responsibility and they have a right to
rule on these things, and that this is what
justifies the accusation that Trump is sort
of a fascist dictator because he's trying
to disregard the judicial branch?

Mike (47:09):
But this is not judicial review.
This is judicial sabotage.
These judges have judicial power.
They have all the judicial power.
The Supreme Court has the judicial power,
Congress has the legislative power, the
president has the executive power and the
president and the president alone.

(47:29):
When judges are exercising judicial power
that is, deciding cases or controversies of
the parties before their court with
redressable claims, that's the judicial
power right.
Their judicial power is not to issue
temporary restraining orders, sabotaging
the president's core Article 2 powers.
It's not to issue nationwide injunctions

(47:52):
based upon parties who are not before the
court.
They don't have that Article 3 power to do
that.
So this is not judicial power they're
exercising.
This is judicial sabotage.
They're stealing Congress's legislative
power by issuing nationwide injunctions,
essentially legislating from the bench.
They're stealing the president's Article 2

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executive power when they're telling the
president that he can't do a, for example,
a national security review of foreign aid
$2 billion in foreign aid to make sure that
we're not funding Hamas terrorists who are
killing Americans under the guise of Gazan
humanitarian relief.
To make sure that we're not funding
transgender mice research.

Lara (48:33):
Didn't they find that we were?
Yeah, we were doing exactly that.

Mike (48:36):
And this judge, ali, on the DC court.
He just got confirmed in the lame duck
session, barely got confirmed.
He was the bottom of the barrel for Biden's
judicial nominees.
He's still a Canadian citizen to this day.
I don't know how you could be a federal
judge and be a foreign citizen he is.
They bragged that he was the first Muslim
and the first Arab on the DC federal court

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and he issued a temporary restraining order.
That's supposed to stop something from
happening.
He issued a temporary restraining order
ordering the president to send out $2
billion in foreign aid at USAID against the
president's national security review, and
he put a timeline on it.
Yes, it's unbelievable.
And the Supreme Court let him get away with

(49:20):
this, because Justice Amy Coney Barrett and
the Chief Justice Justice Amy Coney
Barrett's a law professor from Notre Dame
and I always say that she's a rattled law
professor with her head up her ass.
She thinks that.
Oh well, he called it a temporary
restraining order and under my civil
procedure exam and my civil procedure
manual, I can't.

(49:40):
Those are not appealable.
Well, he might've called it a temporary
restraining order, but it's not.
It was clearly an injunction, a permanent
injunction, because they're sending $2
billion out the door, right and so- and has
that money gone?
Yeah, they sent the money out the door.
That's.
The issue is, how much money do we just
send to Ghazan humanitarian relief that's

(50:00):
going to fund Hamas killing Americans?

Lara (50:03):
Isn't that material support for terrorists?
You would think so.

Mike (50:05):
Which is another crime.
You would think so.

Lara (50:07):
Okay, so what do you do about that?

Mike (50:10):
That's a good question.
I mean what I think needs to happen.
Remember there, they have a lot going on in
the Trump administration.
They're, they're trying to do fire A lot of
people, cancel a lot of programs, cancel a
lot of grants.
Their people are just getting confirmed by
the Senate, it's.
You know, they're, they're at war.
It's going to be a bumpy road for the next
four years, but particularly the next six

(50:31):
months, until we get through these activist
judges with their sabotage, and we're going
to work through this.
I'm going to make damn sure that that
happens.

Lara (50:38):
So what's going to happen in this case with
Judge Ali and the USAID issue?
I mean, that's been to the Supreme Court
and they sided with him.

Mike (50:45):
They sided with him on the emergency docket
on the temporary restraining order, but not
the issue, not the substance.

Lara (50:52):
Not the substance of the issue, not the
substance, not the substance of the issue.

Mike (50:53):
At the end of the day, trump's going to win
all these cases.

Lara (50:55):
How long is it going to take?

Mike (50:57):
That's the issue.
The issue is if they are continuing to
sabotage the president's.
Let's just put it this way what if Congress
told the Chief Justice that the Supreme
Court can't exercise their judicial power
for two weeks?
Or two months that would be unacceptable,

(51:19):
right, that would be unacceptable.
The chief justice would strike that down
immediately.
So how the hell can a judge tell the
president for two weeks or two months or
even two seconds that he can't exercise his
executive power?

Lara (51:32):
they can't do this, and that's the point of
but they argue that they're a check, that
there are checks and balances built into
the system and judicial power is a check on
overreach or misuse of executive power.

Mike (51:44):
But that's the issue he's not overreaching
and misusing his executive power.
They are trying to sabotage him because
they have policy and political
disagreements with President Trump.
So these judges are trying to stop him over
political impulse.
Look, he's the president, he can deport
terrorists.
He's the president, he can review foreign
aid.

Lara (52:02):
Does he have to prove that they're
terrorists?

Mike (52:09):
Does he have to prove that they're
terrorists?
He has to provide a due process, which they
did, and then there's habeas relief.
After that, they went through a process.
If you read the court's filings, there was
affidavits submitted from various
government officials, the Secretary of
State.
There is a process they use.

Lara (52:24):
And I read those and it's similar to what
they used to do at the border when people
came over, instead of just letting them
into the country.

Mike (52:35):
Yeah, exactly.
Well, it's worse than that, instead of
giving them a CB1 app and putting them on
airplanes and putting them up at four-star
hotels and then not getting rid of them
after they rape murder, torture, kidnap and
giving them phones and all the other things
they did.
But okay, and let's add that why would the
Democrats want MS-13 and Trend Day Aragua
in America if it's not subversion?

(52:56):
Why would you want the worst terrorists and
criminals in the Western Hemisphere in
America and then not only bring them here
and let them cause chaos and not get rid of
them, but actually go out of their way to
stop the president of the United States and
try to turn around the planes when they're
in?
Why would they do that other than
subversion stage and try to turn around the
planes when they're when they're?
Why would, why would they?

Lara (53:15):
do that other than subversion?
Well, I mean, the answer lies in the fact
why would you, why would you let a guy out
of prison 21 times when he was, you know,
accused of one violent crime after another?

Mike (53:24):
Because they want the chaos.
The Marxists need the chaos.
This is part of their plan.

Lara (53:29):
Well, and why would you ship them to swing
districts across the country if you didn't
want them to vote?

Mike (53:34):
Yeah well, I always say let's make a deal
with the Democrats.
Instead of bringing in 15 million illegal
immigrants and having them overwhelm our
schools and hospitals and having them take
over our social services and having these
criminals take over our communities, like
they did in Colorado, and rape and murder
and torture people, let's just say to the

(53:54):
Democrats we'll make this easy for you.
We know that you're trying to import so you
can get more people on the census for more
federal funding.
We know you're trying to import these
illegals so you can have them vote.
Why don't we just mail the ballots to them
in Central America so we can just avoid the
crime and chaos that results from the
Democrats mass importing 15 million new
voters chaos that results from the

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Democrats, mass importing 15 million new
voters.

Lara (54:16):
Mr Davis, I want to go back to something
that you said about judicial sabotage of
Article 2 power.
Is that not subversion?
Yes, and sedition right, which falls under
treason and sedition.

Mike (54:28):
Well, I mean, if you can, well, I have to
be careful because I'm still a lawyer and I
don't want to get disbarred yet.
But if you are a judge and you're going out
of your way to sabotage the president of
the United States and issue temporary
restraining orders that aren't temporary,
to issue nationwide injunctions that are

(54:50):
essentially legislation, and you're trying
to sabotage the will of the American people,
who elected the president to go after waste,
fraud and abuse, to secure our border and
deport dangerous terrorists.

Lara (55:02):
That's subversion.

Mike (55:03):
That seems like subversion to me.

Lara (55:05):
And what does the statute say?

Mike (55:08):
So it depends on the statute.
There are conspiracy statutes.
You talked about seditious conspiracy.
There's conspiracy statutes.
You talked about seditious conspiracy.
There's conspiracy against rights.
There are other statutes, like the treason
statutes when you're working with foreign
enemies and there are two witnesses.
You're working with foreign enemies to
undermine the president.

Lara (55:27):
Would that be like Christopher Steele, the
British former spy that was working with
the Clinton campaign, and Mark Elias,
perkins, coie and Nellie Orr, whose husband,
bruce Orr, was at the Justice Department?
I mean, would that be like working with
foreign enemies?

Mike (55:47):
It could be, and I would certainly expect,
if it hasn't already, that there's going to
be an investigation on Crossfire Hurricane.
That's going to go back to the beginning.
And I would say to any of these lawyers,
any of these prosecutors, any of these
federal agents, judges and any other

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government official or anyone on the
outside of governments who's working with
government officials to politicize and
weaponize intel agencies and law
enforcement to go after your political
enemies for non-crimes.
That's conspiracy against rights at a
minimum, at a minimum, at a minimum, and
that's how you open the investigation under

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18 USC Section 241.
And all of those people who could have
participated in that conspiracy, I would
say to lawyer up.

Lara (56:41):
There's also Section 115, right.

Mike (56:44):
Well, which one's 115?
You're a better lawyer than I am today.

Lara (56:47):
No, I'm not, no, I'm not, but I think 115
is treason and sedition, and I just keep
coming back to that because, first of all,
it's a.
It isn't I mean, it's a.
It's just so frustrating that we have
watched clear subversion over and over
again.
Even if you know, regardless of if they
were doing this to Joe Biden or Obama or

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Clinton, I would have to say the same thing,
because if you follow the principle if
you're not following the politics of it,
but you're following the principle of it.
You can't allow those kind of activities to
take place.
You can't allow people in
counterintelligence and the FBI to be
deciding to be building insurance policies
against the candidate they don't want in

(57:31):
the election.
You can't have the presidential candidate
in an election working with Russian
intelligence to create a fake dossier that
a foreign spy brings in that you have met,
by the way, john McCain.
Republican members of Congress carry this

(57:52):
over to your law enforcement agencies as
participating in this conspiracy.
A document that nobody can verify, the
unverified dossier.
And yet your head of you know the CIA, john
Brennan at the time, attaches it, you know,
to congressional reports in order to make
sure.
I mean, this is all part of the conspiracy.

(58:13):
And these people, if they're not held fully
accountable for all of that, like forget
going down for mail fraud or lying under
oath or whatever, they need to be held
accountable for a seditious conspiracy for
treason, because that's what they did.

Mike (58:31):
They betrayed their country because that's
what they did.
They betrayed their country.
I would say that crossfire hurricane is the
biggest scandal in American history.
Hillary Clinton again got caught with her
illegal home server, with our nation's
secrets, which is espionage.
But more problematically was the Clinton
Foundation's pay-for-play foreign bribery

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scheme.
She's the Secretary of State.
She's doing official acts in exchange for
millions of dollars.
That's the allegation, right.
And so then they made up the Crossfire
Hurricane investigation to cover this up.

Lara (59:06):
And can I just say one thing about that,
because it was very frustrating to live
through this at the time, because
apparently there's not a reporter alive
that could actually read the law but just
the fact that Hillary Clinton had one
server is proof that she broke the law
Because, as anyone who works in the
government knows, your systems, your
classified and your secret classified

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systems have to be kept secret from your
non-classified systems.
So if Hillary Clinton didn't want to break
the law, she would have had to have two
servers.
She would have had to keep the by law.
By law, those systems have to be completely
separate.
You cannot store classified and
non-classified information on the same

(59:47):
server.
It's not allowed.

Mike (59:49):
Unless it's a classified server.
Exactly, that's exactly right.
And so she got caught with not only
espionage but foreign bribery and
corruption.
She destroyed the server, destroyed
evidence, bleach bit the server, took the
hammer to the phone, so it's obstruction of
justice.

Lara (01:00:06):
Violated the Federal Records Keeping Act.

Mike (01:00:08):
Yeah.
And so then you say and the reason, the
reason-.
Lied about everything and the reason they
made up crossfire hurricane because they
were worried, like they thought they
destroyed this evidence, but they were
worried it was going to come out before the
2016 election by the Russians.
That's why they made up the Russian
collusion hoax so they can say you can't
believe this story.
This is a dirty campaign trick by the Trump

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campaign.
They're colluding with the Russians.

Lara (01:00:32):
Don't believe this story tricked by the
Trump campaign.
They're colluding with the Russians.
Don't believe this story, and not only
don't believe this story but don't report
on it.

Mike (01:00:36):
Do you remember all of that?

Lara (01:00:36):
You're not allowed to report on it, because
then you're promoting Russian propaganda.

Mike (01:00:39):
Exactly.
And you say that sounds so crazy, mike.
How could you possibly think that?
Well, they did the same thing with Hunter
Biden's laptop in 2020.
Remember, they had the 51 former intel
officials working with the CIA to say that
it had all the hallmarks of a Russian
disinformation campaign Got the New York
Post America's oldest newspaper taken.

(01:01:00):
They took down the New York Post.
Not only could the New York Post Off
Twitter yeah, took it off the internet.
They took the story.
They took the New York Post off the
internet.
They controlled all the social media so
they would not let anyone report that the
Bidens were taking foreign bribes and
corruption before the 2020 campaign.
If the American people would have known

(01:01:21):
about Hunter Biden's laptop and the foreign
corruption before 2020, there's no way Joe
Biden would have been sitting in that White
House.

Lara (01:01:29):
Okay, but what about if the American people
had actually seen Comey James Comey
arrested, yeah, or John Brennan or Hillary
Clinton or any of these people before the
2020 election even happened?
Yeah, I understand it's a COVID war and
there's a lot of things that I don't know
about and that none of us know about.
I get that.

(01:01:49):
It's been very frustrating to have to live
through it, not because of politics, but
because of principle.

Mike (01:01:56):
Trump has much better, stronger personnel
this time and they're not going to make the
mistakes that they made the last time, and
that includes at the Justice Department.
You're seeing Pam Bondi and Todd Blanche
and Emil Bove and others at the Justice
Department making very bold moves starting
from day one firing people, closing

(01:02:19):
investigations, opening investigations Are
they?

Lara (01:02:21):
firing enough people, because what I hear
is the Justice Department, from multiple
people, is rife with people who are just
going to say yes, ma'am, we need to open an
investigation into that.
Yes, ma'am, they open the investigation and
it goes nowhere.
Take the yeah, we need to investigate, open
an investigation into that.
Yes, ma'am, they open the investigation and
it goes nowhere.
They stole, they stole, they stole and they
misrepresent the evidence.
They just they subvert.

(01:02:42):
It's subversion again and again and again.
Pam Bondi's been subverted at the
Department of Justice.
It's happening to Kash Patel at FBI.
It's happening inside the Pentagon I mean
Trump is the commander in chief is being
subverted and undermined from within by
people within those institutions.
I mean the agency, the CIA you want to talk
about the CIA?

(01:03:03):
I mean seriously, we're in the midst of an
intelligence operation and having a
crossfire hurricane wasn't really a law
enforcement operation, it was an
intelligence operation.
So I mean when I say to you, when I raise
concerns to you, it's not because Trump is
not delivering from day one on.
You know almost everything.
I mean the man is doing everything humanly

(01:03:25):
possible to drain the swamp and to change a
system that has been put in place over.
I mean more than a hundred years.
I mean you than 100 years.
I mean you could argue it even goes back
further than that.
But really you know the 1913 Federal
Reserve Act.
I mean the creation of the Federal Reserve,

(01:03:46):
the insanity of the Federal Reserve.
Let me see that they print money that they
loan to US, that US citizens have to pay
taxes to pay back that loan.
I mean, what the hell is that?
That's nonsense.

Mike (01:04:03):
I would say this Remember, there are 4
million executive branch employees.
There are only 4,000 political appointees,
and a lot of those political appointees
have to go through the Senate confirmation
process.
So political appointees to careers, a lot
of those political appointees have to go
through the Senate confirmation process.
So political appointees to careers is a
thousand to one, right.
They're just outmanned and outgunned.

(01:04:23):
And of those federal employees, look at how
many people are Trump supporters?
Not very many, right.
These are people who work every second of
every day to undermine and subvert the
president of the.
United States.

Lara (01:04:39):
So how the hell is he going to deal with
that?

Mike (01:04:41):
That's the issue I mean.
This is it's going to be a slog for the
next four years, but he's, he's going to.
He has to win these early cases at the
courts.
That establishes his core article to
executive powers to fire people.

Lara (01:04:54):
Because otherwise it's going to be the same
play over and over and over again If he
does not resolve this issue right now.
This is the issue that crippled him the
first time around and was never dealt with.
And if it's not dealt with this time, it is
a bad sign.

Mike (01:05:09):
Yeah, this is why I am fighting so hard, as
one of these Trump didn't have the outside
group supporting him the first time, like
he does now.

Lara (01:05:17):
But that's another thing that doesn't seem
to happen.
I mean, every time if you look at the left,
there's a pop-up shop group.
I mean, they created pop-up groups just to
protest Kavanaugh's hearing, right?
They literally do pop-up shops for protests.
Whatever the issue happens to be, they'll
come up with 50 of them so they don't have

(01:05:39):
to set up a 5013C and go through all that
paperwork.
They just do it under someone else's 5013C
status.
And you look at the right and it's pathetic
in comparison, and so that's the issues.

Mike (01:05:46):
We have to get President Trump through
these crucial early court battles.
Once the Supreme Court steps in and sides
with President Trump on these, which I
think they will, on the merits, I think
it's going to be at least six to three on
these cases.
It should be more, but the three left-wing

(01:06:06):
justices are just going to side against
Trump almost every time?

Lara (01:06:09):
Oh, you mean Amy Coney Barrett and John
Roberts.
Is that what you mean by some of those
left-wing justices?
Oh, and maybe Kavanaugh, those justices
that apparently have no balls.

Mike (01:06:20):
They do have balls, but I think they're in
the Justice Sotomayor's purse.

Lara (01:06:26):
Yeah, apparently so.

Mike (01:06:28):
So, yeah, I hear what you're saying.
I do think, look, this is what you have to
do at the Supreme Court with these
conservatives, and it's pathetic.
You have to do this, what you have to do at
the Supreme Court with these conservatives,
and it's pathetic.
You have to do this, but we have to do it.
We did this on presidential immunity at the
Article III project.
Not only do we have to help President Trump
get the best lawyers to make the best legal
arguments like John Sauer, who's going to
be the Solicitor General of the United
States, was Trump's lawyer and made the

(01:06:48):
presidential immunity legal argument that
everyone laughed and said was so stupid.
Community legal argument that everyone
laughed and said was so stupid then you
have to make the political case, and that's
what we do at the Article III Project.
We help President Trump find the best
lawyers.
We help him make the political case because
you not only with conservatives you have to
have the law right and you have to have the
politics right.
The law being right is not enough for a lot
of these conservatives because, as you said,

(01:07:10):
they don't have balls.

Lara (01:07:12):
They really don't.
What's up with that?

Mike (01:07:14):
That's.
I would say that the biggest cowards on the
planet tend to be white Republican lawyers,
particularly in Washington DC, because
they're so scared of being called racist
and sexist and homophobic and transphobic
and whatever phobic, and so that's how the

(01:07:35):
left cows them.

Lara (01:07:36):
Well, you're a white Republican lawyer.

Mike (01:07:39):
And that's right, and I don't give a shit.

Lara (01:07:41):
Why, why don't you?

Mike (01:07:42):
care.
Like I said, I grew up with red hair.
I grew up with red hair and a face for
radio.
I don't care.
I don't care what people think about me
Born where I was born in Des Moines, iowa,
right, so I do not care and I was raised by
liberal parents, right.
I was the Alex P Keaton in my family and
the reason I am conservative.

(01:08:02):
My parents were like these do-good liberals
and they found the two majority minority
schools in Des Moines, iowa.
It's a refugee, resettlement state and
there are a couple schools in Des Moines
where it's mostly black and mostly Asian
right, and so they sought out those schools.
They worked in those schools, they were
very involved with those schools and so I

(01:08:23):
would go with them to these events.
And I saw at a very early age that these
government programs that are supposed to
help these poor, oftentimes minority kids
get ahead in life actually trap them in
intergenerational poverty and I thought
that was disgusting and I used to think
these are just liberals who mean well and

(01:08:46):
are just misguided Right, poor execution.

Lara (01:08:48):
Good intent, but poor execution.

Mike (01:08:50):
But now I think that there are a lot of
good liberals who still believe that, but
they're controlled by the Marxists.
The Marxists want-.

Lara (01:08:57):
They've taken over.

Mike (01:08:58):
The Marxists want people trapped in poverty.
They want particularly poor black people
trapped in poverty.
They need a coalition of victims, right,
and under Trump they ran out of victims
because everyone was getting ahead under
Trump, so they had to create new victims.
They had to create new victims.
They had to create BLM.
They had to create COVID.
They had to create chaos, right.

(01:09:21):
How did BLM come along?
I mean, black Americans were doing pretty
well under President Trump.
The economy was thriving.
These inner city schools, the Republicans
were providing opportunities, lifelines for
these poor black kids trapped in these
government schools to go to get a good
education, to go to a private school, like
these politicians send their own kids to.

(01:09:42):
We had crime down, we had unemployment down.
It was going very well and then-.

Lara (01:09:47):
Also, Trump did that program with black
universities.
Yeah, exactly.
Then he had the opportunity zones.

Mike (01:09:52):
Yeah, the black Americans were doing well
under President Trump.

Lara (01:09:56):
Well, that's why so many of them voted for
him the second time around.

Mike (01:09:59):
Well, that's why the Democrats did the BLM
riots.
They saw the polling.
Look black Americans make up 13% of the
population.
They vote 95% Democrat right.
If you change that number from 95% to 85%,
that's a 1.3% swing in the overall election
right.
That changes the outcome of elections.
So people say, well, you're never going to

(01:10:20):
win the black vote, you don't need to.
If you win 15% of the black vote instead of
5%, you're going to win.
The president and the Democrats knew this.
This is why they ran the BLM rights.
They saw that President Trump's support
among black voters was probably at 20%.

Lara (01:10:36):
And there's also this history.
There there's historic precedent, because
Lenin actually sent his emissaries in the
early 1900s.
He sent his emissaries across the Western
world to identify fishes in various
societies.
So in Algeria, for example, it was Islam,
it was religion.
In America it was race.
And so that's why, historically, if you

(01:10:57):
look throughout it, even in South Africa,
why have struggles for civil rights, for
black people always been so closely aligned
with Marxism?
Well, that's an age-old strategy where they
co-opted the struggle for equal rights and
justice and all that.

Mike (01:11:18):
And you know this from your time growing up
in South Africa.
Of course you saw it was supposed to be
equality.
Now you have these Marxists hunting down
and killing white farmers in South Africa.
Kill the boars, right.
Marxists pretend like they're something
they're not.

Lara (01:11:35):
They pretend like they believe in equality
and due process and free speech and all of
those things they rely on deception yes,
they rely on deception because if, for
example, hugo chavez in venezuela, if he
told everybody oh, you know when I run out,
when I, when I finish stealing the oil
money, when I finish stealing everything
else, you know I'm just going to keep going.
My family is going to be richer than ever

(01:11:56):
and 80% of you are going to live below the
poverty line.
In fact, you're going to be scratching
through trash cans looking for food and, oh,
by the way, you're not going to have any
freedom or rights.
We're going to disappear.
Tens of thousands of people every year.
Some of you will just disappear in prison
and die.
We're going to rape with impunity and we're

(01:12:16):
going to kill whoever we want, and you're
not going to be able to do anything about
it.
No one would vote for that.

Mike (01:12:21):
Yeah, nobody would vote for that.
That's why they lie about it.

Lara (01:12:24):
They have to lie about it, so they have to
pretend it's about making sure.
And it works as an idea because, ironically,
as human beings, if you say to any kid,
well, do you think everybody should have an
education and a home, nobody should be
homeless, nobody should suffer, I mean,
what would you say to that?
Yes, that sounds like a great system.

(01:12:44):
I believe in that.
But what they don't do is what my dad would
do.
I never forget after school we would go to
this one little cafe sometimes, sometimes,
and I would get a toasted scone with butter.
And my dad said did you see what that costs?
He said to me the one day I said why do
they charge so much for that?
Right, it's just one scone.

(01:13:04):
And then my dad went through the whole
process of the labor, that it took, the
ingredients, that it took, the transporting
of it, and he went through, he broke down
all the costs of what it takes to get to
make that item, and then and and and
everything that it went through before it
reached the table and why it costs that
much.

Mike (01:13:24):
And next time you said I want two scones.

Lara (01:13:26):
Well, I never forgot it.
I never forgot it, and I never wanted to be
a business person because of it, cause I
was like well, I don't want to deal with
that, I'm just going to be, I'm just going
to be a loud mouth.

Mike (01:13:36):
I'm a loud mouth on Twitter as a lawyer
Cause I can't do math and so I don't want
to do, I don't want to do business stuff.
But it's you know, I, I hear you.
That's the.
You're talking about deception.
They're not going to show who they really
are off the mask.
They got overconfident.
They like with the BLM, with the Antifa,
with the Hamas rights, they got too

(01:13:58):
confident.

Lara (01:13:59):
Their hand was forced.
Yeah, their hand was forced by the things
that you described, like when you, when you
really have people thriving economically.
Every, you know, everyone knows the economy
is always, you know, one of the number one
issues in any election, right?
So they had to resort to those things
because Trump would have just walked into

(01:14:20):
office in a landslide, and so they had to
create the perception of chaos.
They had to manufacture the chaos.
I mean, that's how the Nazis got the
Chancellor of Bavaria, I mean Germany to
hand over the keys, right, they created
chaos, but you know Germany to hand over
the keys, right, they created chaos, but
you know, mike.

Mike (01:14:36):
I want to the COVID lockdowns.
I mean, think about what they did with the
COVID lockdowns.

Lara (01:14:40):
Well, that was just outright theft.

Mike (01:14:42):
They wanted to destroy our economy, to
destroy Trump's presidency.
They wanted to make us miserable, to chase
Trump out of office.

Lara (01:14:51):
Well, they really needed that to change the
election laws so they could use the mail-in
ballots to steal it.

Mike (01:14:56):
Yeah, and what was so great about changing
illegally, unconstitutionally changing
election laws in violation?

Lara (01:15:02):
Oh, another crime they got away with.

Mike (01:15:03):
Exactly in violation of the elections
clause.
Remember, with COVID.
Somehow COVID, not only does it spread from
human to human, but it somehow changes your
signature, so they got rid of signature.
Not only did they go to all mail ballots,
but then they got rid of signature
verification because COVID changes your
signature, apparently.

Lara (01:15:21):
So yeah, apparently.

Mike (01:15:22):
Remember they turned it down where
signature verification was meaningless, so
you can just scribble anything you want it
on the affidavit and send it in your mail.

Lara (01:15:30):
Yes, you just have to look at signature
verification in a court of law in a
criminal case.
And then you look at what they do in the
elections and it's a joke.
Yeah, yeah, it's literally a joke.
Okay, but something I want to ask you about
who's behind the lawfare?
It doesn't just happen.

Mike (01:15:47):
Who do I think?
Well, I know that Norm Eisen puts himself
out there very publicly.

Lara (01:15:52):
And can you explain?

Mike (01:15:52):
who he is.
He is a former Obama top lawyer.
He's a buddy of Obama's.
He's a wealthy guy in DC and he puts
himself out there as the puppet master of
these lawyers, of these plaintiffs, of
these agents, who kind of is the mastermind

(01:16:15):
of this lawfare?

Lara (01:16:16):
Well, he took over at CREW, right Citizens
for Responsibility and Ethics that
organization in DC and CREW was responsible
for many I mean countless lawsuits against
Trump, including trying to take Trump off
the ballot in Colorado, unconstitutionally
Right Financing those efforts.
He also worked with David Brock, who was

(01:16:36):
head of Media Matters for America, who also
was at CREW for a while but who founded
Media Matters for America.
The two of them created the 65 Project.

Mike (01:16:44):
Yep.

Lara (01:16:45):
And-.

Mike (01:16:46):
They target lawyers, Republican lawyers, to
cow them with bar complaints.

Lara (01:16:50):
They threaten their bar licenses.

Mike (01:16:51):
They try to disbar them.

Lara (01:16:52):
They do disbar them.

Mike (01:16:53):
It's amazing, tried to disbar me yet yeah,
why is that?
I don't know.
Try it, see what happens.
I mean, they probably know that I will sue
their asses if they do that and make their
lives miserable, because I'm not your
typical Republican lawyer who's going to
cow to them.

Lara (01:17:09):
Why do you need a bar license to practice
law, I mean when you graduate from college.
Why isn't that enough?

Mike (01:17:13):
Like law school?

Lara (01:17:14):
Yeah, because the lawyers want to control
their own profession, right, just like
doctors want to control their own but it's
a British thing, isn't it, the bar?

Mike (01:17:22):
Well, what they do in Britain which is what
they should do is they have, like a you
graduate from school and then you go be an
apprentice for a lawyer for a couple of
years, a barrister, and then you're a
lawyer, and that's what they should be
doing in America.

Lara (01:17:35):
Who created the bar?

Mike (01:17:41):
It was the Brits.
I don't know why we have the bar system in
America, because it just allows leftists to
control the legal system in America.

Lara (01:17:46):
Well, and look what they've done to Rudy
Giuliani.
Yeah, I mean-.

Mike (01:17:50):
Destroyed the man.
Destroyed the man For what?
Because he dared to question the stolen
election right.
I mean-.

Lara (01:17:56):
And before that, because he exposed what
they were doing in Ukraine.

Mike (01:17:59):
I mean they really hate him.
They've tried to destroy the man.
Look.

Lara (01:18:03):
Is he going to be restored?

Mike (01:18:05):
Because he should be.
He should be Like Jeff Clark.
They did the same thing to my friend, jeff
Clark.
Jeff Clark was a Justice Department
official who was advising the president,
and the Democrats didn't like the advice
that this lawyer gave to his client and so
they tried to destroy his lives.
They indicted him down in Georgia.
They tried to take away they're still
trying to take away his law license there.

(01:18:26):
Look, um, I push very hard for Jeff Clark
to get back into the Trump administration
and he's there now.
He's in the white house office of
management and budget.
He has a really important job there, uh, to
to manage the regulations across the entire
federal government.
I would say to these Democrats for four
years you guys were the hunters and now for

(01:18:47):
the next four years, you're going to be the
hunted legally, politically and financially.

Lara (01:18:52):
Okay, but see people call that retribution.

Mike (01:18:54):
I think retribution is a very crucial part
of justice, because it restores the victims
and it's a powerful deterrent to make sure
that this never happens again.
So you can call it retribution, you can
call it accountability, you can call it law
enforcement, you can call it whatever the
hell you want, but I'm all for it.

Lara (01:19:16):
Norm Eisen just had his security clearance
stripped.
What does that mean?
What does that do to him?

Mike (01:19:22):
well, it means he can't have matters with
the federal government as a lawyer with
clients where those matters require
security clearance.
So a lot of the work that he does for
corporations that are trying to navigate
government rules and regulations where you
need a security clearance, you can't do
that anymore.

Lara (01:19:43):
And when you look at a guy like that,
because now he has a blog with that awful
woman, jennifer Rubin, that's a woman, yeah,
sometimes it's hard to tell.
I will admit she's got a face for radio,
that's for sure.
I'm not supposed to say that kind of thing,
but it is true.
Check it out.

Mike (01:19:59):
Like me, like me, like me.

Lara (01:20:01):
She has a face for radio, but I think
what's so unpleasant about the two of them
is just the.
I mean, first of all, it's a constant
stream of lies, but then it's also just
this hatred.
Right, this Trump derangement syndrome was
a good term to come up with, because there
are some of these people that are involved

(01:20:21):
in this where it's just relentless, and
what is frustrating is seeing that they
just constantly get away with one.
I mean with subversion, because launching
over 150 lawsuits, determining in advance
that this is what your strategy is going to
be, we're going to stop everything they try

(01:20:43):
to do.
We're going to try to stop with a lawsuit.
Yeah, is that a crime?

Mike (01:20:51):
When you are weaponizing government
agencies, whether it's intel agencies or
law enforcement or other agencies, to go
after your political opponents for
non-crimes.
That is conspiracy against rights under 18
usc section 241 at a minimum, along with
many other potential crimes.
And I would say this they were able to get

(01:21:12):
away with this in the first term because
president trump had uh, weak and dumb
people in key posts.
He doesn't have that this time.
They're not going to be able to get away
with this.
These judges are sabotaging the president.
They're working with these activist lawyers
and activist plaintiffs and activist judges
are working together to sabotage the

(01:21:33):
president after he won this electoral
mandate.
It's going to work in the short term.
It's not going to work in the long term.
It's not going to work in the long term.
The Supreme Court will stop this and if the
Supreme Court does not stop this, it's
going to light the federal judiciary's
legitimacy on fire.

Lara (01:21:51):
What can you do about the senior executive
service, which is that layer of bureaucracy
that is kind of a law unto itself, that is
outside of the oversight of Congress, that
decides its own salaries and determines
whether or not people can be fired and
hired?
I mean, it is literally the deep state.

(01:22:11):
It's not the whole deep state, but it is a
core component of the deep state.

Mike (01:22:15):
Yeah, I think we need to step back and just
have a broader discussion, because it's so
important here.
People need to understand.
Then, america, the difference between
America and Great Britain from which we
escaped.
Right In Great Britain, there's God and
then there's a sovereign king or queen, and
then that monarch gives power to their

(01:22:39):
subjects through documents like the Magna
Carta.
So we have a sovereign king or queen and
then we get the crumbs as the subject,
whatever the king or queen wants us to have.
Right In America, it is a radically
different concept.
We have God and then we have we, the people.
We are the sovereign, we have the power, we,
the people, we, the people, we are the

(01:23:00):
sovereign, we have the power.
We, the people.
We lend power to governments through our
constitution.
Our US constitution is a loan agreement, so
we, the people, loan our federal
government's specific, enumerated and
divided powers and then whatever powers are
not specifically enumerated or mentioned in
the constitution belongs to the states and

(01:23:20):
we, the people, and the 10th amendment
confirms that.
So we give the congress the legislative
power.
Under article one, the most powerful power
is the legislative power.
We divide that between the house and the
senate and 535 different members.
The executive power, all executive power
belongs to the president.
He runs the executive branch, and then all

(01:23:40):
executive power belongs to the president.
He runs the executive branch, and then the
judicial power belongs to the Supreme Court
and whatever lower courts that Congress
creates.
That's the Article III judicial power right.
That's how our system worked until about 90
years ago, and then 90 years ago, during
the FDR administration, the Supreme Court

(01:24:01):
was striking down FDR's New Deal programs
because it wasn't allowed by the
Constitution.
They might've been great ideas, but it was
not allowed by the Constitution, right.
And so the Supreme Court was saying this is
not in the Constitution, you do not have
this power, you can't do this program.
Fdr threatened to pack the Supreme Court
and it worked.
He threatened to pack the Supreme Court.

(01:24:22):
The Supreme Court changed its jurisprudence
and essentially turned the Constitution on
its head.
Folded yeah, folded.
The Constitution went from a shield that
protected us from government to a sword the
government uses to come after us.
And the Supreme Court essentially ruled
that unless the Constitution says the

(01:24:42):
government, the federal government, does
not have the power, it has the power.
Switched it.
Instead of the federal government only
having the powers that are mentioned in the
Constitution, the Supreme Court essentially
said, under the Commerce Clause, unless the
Constitution precludes the federal
government from doing it, it has that power.
And then not only did the federal
government get all these powers that belong
to states and the people, they consolidated

(01:25:04):
all the legislative power, a lot of the
legislative power and a lot of the judicial
power, into unelected bureaucrats in the
executive branch.
And then they separated those bureaucrats
and made them essentially untouchable by
the president.
So you have power that doesn't belong to
the federal government, power that belongs
to Congress, power that belongs to the

(01:25:24):
Supreme Court, all in these unelected,
unaccountable bureaucrats who the president
can't hire, the president can't fire, the
president can't control.
That is the definition of tyranny.
If you're a fascist, that's what you would
want.
You would want the Tony Fauci's of the
world to make all the decisions in your
life, like we saw during COVID, where we

(01:25:45):
had to be six feet away from people, even
though that was not based at all on the
science and it really disrupted our lives,
particularly kids' lives, that they
couldn't be in schools, particularly poor
black kids who Democrats pretend to care
about.
Those kids were not on Zoom classrooms in
their homes, they were not being fed, they
were not being treated properly, they were

(01:26:05):
being neglected, abused.
They're already poor, they're already
behind.
They're being abused and neglected because
of these COVID lockdowns.
Do you think that the Tony Fauci's of the
world, the elite, cared?
No, they wanted this misery.
The cloth mask mandates, cloth masks do not
work.
The only thing that would stop COVID from
spreading is if you had the surgical masks

(01:26:27):
the 95s on your face, perfectly on your
face.
Then you could stop the spread of COVID.

Lara (01:26:31):
That don't work anyway in a normal
environment.

Mike (01:26:34):
They do not work.

Lara (01:26:34):
They work for a short period of time, like
if you're a surgeon doing something.

Mike (01:26:37):
If you're a surgeon, in a controlled
environment.

Lara (01:26:39):
Right, and you use it and you throw it out,
yes, and then you wash your hands, but
taking it on and off and this and that and
reusing it and all that nonsense Between
bites and sips.
Yeah, none of that works.
But going back to okay that layer of
unelected bureaucrats who are not
answerable, that's the senior executive
service.

Mike (01:26:57):
That's who Trump is going after right now.
He's firing those people.
He's getting rid of their protections.
He's closing down agencies.
Remember we have to take out the lawyers.
We have to take out the deep state
operatives.
You take out those people first and that's
how you can bring long-term change.
You have to take out those pawns.
You have to take out the legal pawns at the

(01:27:19):
law firms.
You have to take out these career SES pawns
in the executive branch, the people who are
funding Hamas terrorists killing Americans
under the guise of Ghazan relief, the
people who are funding transgender mice
research and Durka Durka Lantz.
These are the people you have to take out
if you're going to bring the changes.

Lara (01:27:39):
Look Okay.
So how does he take them out, though?
Because what we're seeing right now, say
the Department of Education right, created
by an act of Congress, therefore has to be.
I mean, you can turn off the lights, you
can get rid of everybody, you can shut down
its operations, but doesn't it take
Congress to get rid of it.

Mike (01:27:57):
Yes, if it was created by statute, you need
to get rid of it by statute, but the
statute doesn't say you have to have
100,000 employees, for example.
Maybe you can do it with 1,000 instead of
100,000.

Lara (01:28:08):
Right, but can he get rid of it?
I mean, would this Congress I mean he has a
majority would this Congress actually vote
to do that?

Mike (01:28:15):
Would they Possibly?
You have to build the political case and
you'd have to do it through reconciliation,
where you only needed 51 votes in the
Senate instead of 60 votes is what you
normally need through.

Lara (01:28:26):
Because you're not going to get 60 votes.

Mike (01:28:28):
No way.
But look, I've always said this.
I think that over like I started the
Article 3 project because I saw the void on
the right for people who had insider
knowledge, who were willing to fight like a
thick-skinned monkey like me, right.
So emphasis on thick skin.
But what I think needs to happen is we

(01:28:53):
always talk about draining the swamp.
Well, guess what?
The reptiles are not going to drain the
swamp, congress-.

Lara (01:28:58):
Their own swamp.
No, they're not going to do that.

Mike (01:29:01):
Why would?
The political branches will never drain the
swamp.
Why would the reptiles drain the swamp?

Lara (01:29:06):
That's why they never vote on term limits.
They talk about it, they draft it and they
never vote on it.

Mike (01:29:10):
So this is how you're going to have to get
rid of these departments and agencies it
has to be through the courts and it's going
to have to be over 20 years.
Now what Trump is 20 years.
It's going to take 20 years to do, but what?

Lara (01:29:20):
Trump what about an emergency declaration?
War powers?

Mike (01:29:26):
I don't know if that would work, but I
would say this what Trump is doing with
Elon Musk to disrupt right now is speeding
up that process from 20 years to four years.
It's hugely important.
I didn't think that anyone would have the
courage to do what Trump and Elon Musk are
doing.

(01:29:46):
And they're doing it, and it's going to be
chaotic, it's going to break a lot of China,
it's going to cause a lot of disruption,
it's going to cause a lot of chaos, we're
going to lose some cases from time to time,
but overall, this is speeding up the
dismantling of the executive branch from 20
years to four years.

Lara (01:30:03):
Does he even have four years?
If, for example, what's going to happen in
the midterms?
Because if they could steal the 2020
election, they could steal the midterms
Absolutely and people didn't pay attention
to a lot of the down ballot races in 2024.
There was a lot of cheating that went on.
I mean there's non-citizens that have voted
in multiple states.

Mike (01:30:21):
Yeah.
That's why, if you deport 15 million
illegal immigrants, they can't vote yeah.
But they're not even close to 15 million.
I hear you.

Lara (01:30:30):
They don't have a snowball's chance in how
the pace they're going right now.
They don't have a snowball's chance of
getting close to 15 million.
Well, I mean they got the border.

Mike (01:30:36):
Well, I mean, they got the border.
Remember how many people were coming across
the border?

Lara (01:30:40):
Yeah, they stopped the bleeding.

Mike (01:30:41):
Yeah, and then now people are even starting
to self-deport, right, so that's a good
thing.
Once you go after the employers in America
and say that if you employ these illegal
immigrants, we're going to charge you with
harboring illegal aliens under our federal
criminal statutes.
That ends the problem overnight.
If they have nowhere to work, they're going
to go home, right.
So a lot of them, a lot of them.

Lara (01:31:05):
So look I mean a lot of them are here doing
criminal activities.
I don't mean to say that's not to disparage
good people, because there are many good
people.

Mike (01:31:11):
No, I hear you A lot of them are cartels.

Lara (01:31:13):
But they used good people.
I mean the CCP, the Venezuelans, the
Iranians, I mean every adversary.
The United States has used good people as a
cover to insert foreign military
organizations into this country.
Hackers, spies, I mean you name it, and I
mean the Chinese PLA alone.

(01:31:35):
People's Liberation Army has more than
250,000 trained uniformed soldiers inside
this country, and they used good people you
know to get in right.

Mike (01:31:46):
Yeah, I used to have.
I used to be kind of weak soft on
immigration.
I used to say, well, you know, maybe they
came here illegally, but you know they're
good people and you know they're just
coming here to work.
I have, after Biden, let this mass invasion
over the last four years.
I have zero sympathy.
I have zero compassion.

(01:32:06):
I want to get anyone who's here illegally.
You're a criminal.
Get the hell out of our country,
particularly if you're in a Venezuelan gang,
tren de Aragua, a foreign terrorist
organization, or your MS-13, get them the
hell out of our country.
I have zero.
Joe Biden in the last four years has made

(01:32:26):
it where I have.
I will never have compassion again for
illegal immigrants who come to our country.

Lara (01:32:30):
Well, the problem is that they, the
globalists and the open borders crowd, took
human beings and turned them into a weapon
system.

Mike (01:32:38):
Pawns, they're, pawns, no, they're a weapon
system Pawns, they're pawns, no they're a
weapon system.
Yeah.

Lara (01:32:42):
They're a weapon that they used.
I mean, sometimes people invade with tanks,
sometimes they invade with an air force and
all the rest of it.
They invaded with human beings, and some of
those human beings, I mean they're mothers
and fathers and children and all the rest
of it.
So in a way, it's the perfect weapon system
for them, because now it's not the same as

(01:33:05):
going onto the battlefield and removing a
bunch of shells or landmines right, no one
cares about the landmine, but a lot of
people care about the human beings.
And now you've got people like Trenderagua,
who have brought in groups of 20, 30, 40
young girls from Venezuela to be, you know,
we say, trafficked, but the truth is to be
raped over and over and over again until

(01:33:26):
their debt is paid off.
And what happens to them?
Some of these people have children.
You know Some they're getting deported as
prostitutes and their children are being
left behind.
And so they created a mess.
It's an absolute mess.
It's like trying to do surgery from your

(01:33:47):
body, even if you have a cancer inside you.
You have to pull this out because you have
an invasion.
You have an entire shadow culture that has
been inserted, and you say 15 million, but
I talk to a lot of people who think it's
more like 18, 20 million.
And so it's been inserted into and you say
15 million, but I talk to a lot of people
who think it's more like 18, 20 million,
and so it's been inserted into your country
and it's taken root and now ripping that

(01:34:08):
out is going to be painful and nobody else
worldwide has had the courage to do it.
I mean, there are plenty of people in
Europe that are looking at this and seeing
if Trump can do it, we can do it.

Mike (01:34:21):
Well, it's even worse in Europe because you
have Islamists who have gone into Europe
and there's a difference between Muslims
and Islamists.
Islamists are radicals who want to destroy
the West.
They want to go into these European
countries.
It's an invasion.
They don't want to assimilate, they want to

(01:34:43):
conquer.
They do not want to become part of Europe,
they want to destroy Europe.

Lara (01:34:45):
There's some of that here.

Mike (01:34:47):
Yeah, there's some of that in America and
it's getting worse.
Thank God Trump is going to stop and
hopefully reverse that.
But it's really bad in Europe and the
American people need to understand that.
If Islamists take over Europe, do we want
to keep pledging our NATO support for
Europe?
Do we want to defend Europe if they've been

(01:35:07):
conquered by Islamists?
I don't think so.
I think Europe needs to understand that if
they don't take care of their Islamist
problem, if they don't get these radical
jihadists the hell out of their continent,
the American people are not going to have
the political will to finance their
security.
So get your house in order, Europe, because

(01:35:30):
your security, your existence, could
crumble pretty fast.

Lara (01:35:35):
What's the next step in the legal battle in
the legal defense of Trump's executive
branch?
Article 2 power.

Mike (01:35:42):
I think we have to weather these lawsuits.
We have to keep fighting back the Justice
Department.
As they get people confirmed to these key
posts, they'll keep staffing up.
They put us on defense for a couple months
here, but we're going to be-.

Lara (01:35:56):
That's annoying.

Mike (01:35:57):
Yeah, it is annoying, that's sabotage.
That's what they did for four years with
Crossfire, hurricane the first time.

Lara (01:36:02):
How are you going to get the SES people out
if they?
I mean, they're kind of a law unto
themselves?

Mike (01:36:08):
Yeah, well, I know that, for example, amel
Bove was the acting deputy attorney general
until Todd Blanch got confirmed, and I love
Amel Bove.
If you think I'm a savage, you should go
meet Emil Bove.
He is a savage.
He looks like a serial killer, he's an
awesome guy and he's a political serial
killer.
He's done a lot of work already at the

(01:36:29):
Justice Department getting rid of people
who were bad actors or just wasteful
lawyers.

Lara (01:36:37):
How many people at the Justice Department
are like that, do you think?

Mike (01:36:40):
A good chunk of them 50% Higher, higher.
Meaning they're either.
I wouldn't say that the Justice Department
doesn't, I wouldn't say that it's wasteful
as much as there are left-wing radicals in
these key career jobs.
And there's the Attorney General, who's
political, there's the deputy attorney

(01:37:00):
general, who's political, there's the
associate attorney general, who's political,
there are assistant attorneys general for
each one of the divisions who are political.
There's the FBI director Cash is political,
but then most of like 95% of the people who
work for those top officials, 95% of the
department, maybe even more, are career

(01:37:21):
right.
And so that's the problem is these careers,
these career ranks, are full of left-wing
radicals, particularly in the management
branches the chiefs of the litigating
divisions, the assistant chiefs of the
litigating divisions, emil Bove and Pam
Bondi, and Chad Mizell, the chief of staff,
and Todd Blanchett, the deputy attorney

(01:37:43):
general.
They're going through those very quickly
and they're getting people out of those
jobs and getting better people in these
jobs.

Lara (01:37:49):
But can they?
I mean, there's been a judge who blocked
even that right.
Even saying that you can't fire people.

Mike (01:37:57):
They try to Now.
They've been successful on appeals, on
firing people right, but that's what these
activist judges look.
This is going to be again a slog every day
for four years, but at the end of these
four years we're going to be successful.
We're going to have our executive branch
back to what the Constitution requires.
We're going to be dismantling these

(01:38:19):
agencies.
We're going to be returning power to the
states and to the people, as is required
under our Constitution.

Lara (01:38:27):
And under the Constitution, can the
president get rid of the Federal Reserve,
since it's not a federal agency?

Mike (01:38:32):
Well it should be.
You have to ask this question If it is an
executive branch agency that doesn't report
to the president of the United States, how
is that constitutional?
And the answer is it's not, so can he?
What I would do if I were the President is
I would order the Chairman of the Federal
Reserve to dismantle much of the Fed and

(01:38:53):
fire much of the people, and if the Federal
Reserve Chairman doesn't do that, fire the
Federal Reserve Chairman and that becomes a
legal dispute for the Supreme Court of the
United States to resolve.

Lara (01:39:03):
What about the IRS?
Because that's a corporation too, also not
a federal agency, correct I'm?

Mike (01:39:07):
not a fan of the IRS.
I don't know about you.
It sounds like those 87,000 new IRS agents
under Biden might be turning into
immigration officials and maybe those IRS
agents might be changing diapers on the
southern border instead of terrorizing
small businesses across America.

Lara (01:39:27):
Well, but is it a federal agency?
I mean, it's a corporation.
Is it not Formed in Puerto Rico?

Mike (01:39:33):
The IRS is Internal Revenue Service is a
part of the Department of the Treasury.
So I don't know about the Puerto Rico thing.
I've never heard that, but that sounds like
a very interesting rabbit hole to go down.

Lara (01:39:46):
Well, I would like to know.
I've been trying to figure it out.

Mike (01:39:50):
We should make it a defunct agency in
Puerto Rico, so let's work on that.

Lara (01:39:54):
Will it become the external revenue service?

Mike (01:39:57):
Yes, make tariffs great again under
President Trump.

Lara (01:40:00):
Yes, okay, most critical legal issue facing
the president at this moment.

Mike (01:40:27):
So the most critical legal issue I country,
that's going to be the most important issue
for the Supreme Court to resolve, because I
can't think of anything more lawless and
dangerous than what Judge Boasberg did by
exposing this ongoing military operation by
ordering planes turned around ever, let

(01:40:48):
alone if he doesn't know the fuel levels or
doesn't know the security footprint in
America to return those, and it's just an
unbelievably lawless order and dangerous
order that he thinks he can order.
The president of the United.

Lara (01:41:00):
States.
Doesn't he have a conflict of interest
anyway with his daughter?

Mike (01:41:04):
A lot of those DC judges have conflicts of
interest.
Their spouses are getting grants from USAID.
Their daughters are working for NGOs that
are funded by the government or take
positions.

Lara (01:41:17):
Political campaigns or legal offices.
Yeah, it's a mess.

Mike (01:41:24):
Yeah, I mean we saw that with Judge Juan
Merchan's daughter in New York for that
bogus criminal trial against Trump.

Lara (01:41:28):
Another winner that judge?
Yeah, exactly.

Mike (01:41:30):
Another Marxist judge.
I can't remember what Marxist hellhole from
which he came Columbia maybe.
From which he crawled?
Yeah, from which he crawled.
His daughter, laurenuren, was raising money
off of that criminal trial and he should
have recused, but he, instead of recusing,
he threatened to throw trump in jail if he
raised the fact that lauren mershon's
raising money off the trial.

(01:41:50):
It's just, it's unbelievable corruption of
the judiciary and at the article 3 project,
we're going to make damn sure that the
american people are educated and engaged on
these issues.

Lara (01:42:01):
Is Fannie Willis done?

Mike (01:42:02):
Big Fannie.

Lara (01:42:03):
Yeah.

Mike (01:42:04):
You saw her.
She was with Nathan Wade.
Again, I want to say this to Nathan Wade,
and I mean this in all sincerity, this is
going to be good.

Lara (01:42:11):
Okay, let's hear it, this will be good.

Mike (01:42:13):
So she paid you $700,000 to Nathan Waite
clearly because he's a legal genius, as we
saw and Big Fanny got these kickbacks
around the world.
She went to Belize, the Caribbean.
She's a Grey Goose girl.
She lived it up, she lived large with
Nathan Waite.

(01:42:34):
After we saw her in that court proceeding
where she went nuts, I actually have a
great deal of sympathy for Nathan Wade.
I don't think he got paid.
I don't think $700,000 is enough money to
be stuck with that slob.
And they're again.
They're stuck together.
So, big Fannie I hope Big Fannie
understands that she also could be the

(01:42:55):
target of any criminal investigation for
conspiracy against rights, just like Tish
James and the big Tish in New York, nathan
Wade.
These are all these Democrat prosecutors
and agents and operatives, witnesses,
judges who engaged in this criminal
conspiracy against President Trump to take
him off the ballot, bankrupt him, throw him

(01:43:16):
in prison for life.
It's unacceptable what they did, this law.
I've been fighting it for the last three
years, four years at the Article III
project.
I will continue to fight it every single
day.
People call it retribution, I call it law
enforcement and there's going to be
accountability for what they did.

Lara (01:43:37):
Will the president back efforts to restore
January 6th defendants, because I know he
did an enormous thing by pardoning people?

Mike (01:43:45):
Yeah.

Lara (01:43:46):
But so many people's lives have been
destroyed.

Mike (01:43:49):
Yes.

Lara (01:43:49):
They lost their jobs, they lost their homes,
some of them lost their families, some of
them lost custody of their children.
I mean, they're fighting on so many
different fronts and I wonder if he's aware
that there is a concerted effort which has
been articulated on a number of different
sort of leftist style shows to continue to

(01:44:11):
go after and target people pardoned by the
president to put as many of them back in
jail as possible.

Mike (01:44:20):
I would say that there is a civil rights
division at the Justice Department.
Harmeet Dhillon is going to be the head of
that civil rights division and I guarantee
you that Harmeet Dhillon and Todd Blanche
and Pam Bondi and Emil Bove and others are
not going to put up with that.
They will be prosecuted under our civil
rights laws.
If that happens, the Justice Department I'm

(01:44:43):
going to keep pushing this and I think it's
going to happen.
There's a victim's fund at the Justice
Department that they can use to help these
January 6th people who were persecuted.
Remember January 6th was a lawful protest
permitted by the National Park Service that
devolved into a riot.
And what the Democrats did with January 6th

(01:45:05):
some would say a Fed surrection.
Some would say that the Feds instigated it
to cover up the stolen election in 2020.
And I tend to agree with that assessment.
But separate from that, what they did on
January 6th is they said it was an
insurrection, even though no one was
charged with insurrection.
How many insurrectionists go into a
nation's Capitol unarmed, walk through

(01:45:28):
velvet ropes, follow police direction, take
selfies and walk out?
That's not an insurrection and I guarantee
you, trump supporters have guns.
So if they wanted to actually do an
insurrection, they would have done an
insurrection.
So the Biden regime teaming up with weak,
idiotic, fake Republicans like Liz Cheney
and Adam Kinzinger and Mitch McConnell

(01:45:49):
Mitch McConnell Shameful what these guys
did.
They had to get rid of Trump, they had to
get rid of MAGA, they had to get rid of
Trumpism.
So they made their lives living hell.
They persecuted these defendants and the
Supreme Court made that very clear in the
Fisher case.
They should have been.
Their people should have been.
There were three categories of people who

(01:46:09):
were there that day.
There were the people who were outside and
they were peaceful and even if you don't
like them, even if you think they're crazy,
they have an absolute first amendment right
to be there.
Then there are people who trespassed and
they should be charged with trespass.
And then there are people who are violent
and they should have been charged more
harshly.
Instead, everyone got lumped together as an

(01:46:29):
insurrectionist and they brought bullshit
charges pardon my language against these
defendants made-up charges like the 1512
obstruction charge, post-in-run obstruction
charge.
They put people in prison for months before
their trials, even solitary, sometimes
years.
Solitary confinement made these people's
lives a living hell while they gave—.

(01:46:50):
Terrorized them actually, while they gave
amnesty to the much more deadly and
destructive BLM and Antifa and Hamas
rioters.

Lara (01:46:57):
And I would also argue with your definition
of the trespassing charge.

Mike (01:47:01):
No, I hear you, some people were let in.

Lara (01:47:02):
Well, many people were let in and also, as
you said, the Park Service permitted
rallies at their.
So you know, you had people like Jeremy
Brown, who had been a member of the Oath
Keepers for a couple of weeks, who was
asked to do security for a VIP speaker.
There was some African-American woman who

(01:47:22):
was speaking and her mother was there and
she needed security, so he did security for
her.
He literally didn't even go into the
building and he was charged with
trespassing.

Mike (01:47:31):
Yeah, well, remember this.
I was the staff leader for the Kavanaugh
confirmation.
We had people disrupt those proceedings,
threaten senators, threaten staffs, disrupt
the committee hearings, disrupt the vote on
the floor, and none of them were charged.
They weren't charged with anything.

Lara (01:47:44):
No, if they were, they got a $15 fine and
by the way every single, every single
January 6th, defendant was denied a First
Amendment defense yeah, by the same pool of
judges, including Boasberg and Marchand I
don't know if it was Marchand- Marchand's
in New York, but it was Boasberg.

Mike (01:48:02):
It was Boasberg and there were a few others
Chuck Tinn and all the the same crew, the
Marxist Obama and Biden judges and the weak
Republican judges.

Lara (01:48:11):
Who presided over hundreds and hundreds of
cases.

Mike (01:48:14):
In the meantime, you have protesters during
the Trump administration.
Attack the White House, burn the Secret
Service guard station, torch St John's
Church.

Lara (01:48:26):
Injure Secret Service Beat up the.

Mike (01:48:27):
Secret Service Beat up Rand Paul as he's
leaving the White House meeting.

Lara (01:48:31):
Not a.

Mike (01:48:32):
US senator Nothing happens.

Lara (01:48:33):
Yeah, and so you have a lot of these people
who's you know they're never going to get
that four years back.

Mike (01:48:40):
They need to be restored, and you have
people like Matthew Per, people who's you
know they're never going to get that four
years back, yeah.

Lara (01:48:41):
They need to be restored, and you have
people like Matthew Perna, who put a rope
around his neck and took his own life.

Mike (01:48:46):
Yeah, these people need to be restored.

Lara (01:48:47):
He's been in trouble in his life and they
were threatening to remember the whole the
terrorism enhancements and things like that.
So you know the Justice Department, because
they can't charge you with terrorism,
they're just going to add an enhancement to
your sentencing to bump you up a category
so that they can put you in jail for longer.
What the hell is that?

Mike (01:49:06):
Well, remember, very early on in this
administration, trump the Trump, a Mel
Boeve, the political mass murderer, fired
all these January 6th prosecutors, walked
them out the door.

Lara (01:49:17):
But those judges are still there.

Mike (01:49:19):
I hear you.

Lara (01:49:20):
Why are those judges still there?

Mike (01:49:21):
Well, that's a very good question.
I actually think, and I've been calling for
this I think Congress needs to dismantle
the DC District Court.
I think it's been lost to the Marxist
judges and the weak Republicans who go
along with it.
These judges, this court is out of control.

Lara (01:49:39):
What about Southern District of New York?
It's not as bad as DC, but sure, pretty bad,
though Put it on the list.
Any other judges you don't like, we'll put
them on the list, okay.

Mike (01:49:49):
Emil, we need to add another judge to the
list, but no, we need to dismantle the.
This is what I propose.
This is what I think needs to happen.
There's a federal court in DC, the US
district court, with all these bad judges.
There's the DC superior court that handles
like state matters the DC street crimes,
the DC civil cases that are like if you

(01:50:09):
were in a state court.
There are a whole bunch of vacancies on
this DC superior court.
It's an unconstitutional court.
These local Democrats get to pick the
judges.
The president just has to rubber stamp one
of the three picks recommended by the local
Democrat leftist.
So what I think Congress should do is get
rid of the DC Superior Court.

(01:50:30):
Make these DC district court judges who
have lifetime tenure, make them do DC
street crimes and then all other federal
cases should be randomly assigned to a
federal judge across the country.
So they bring them in for a case or for two
months, three months, whatever they want to
do, sit by designation.
That way we are randomly drawing judges

(01:50:52):
from around the country, instead of these
Marxist DC radicals and the weak Republican
DC judges.

Lara (01:50:58):
Is that realistic?
Do you think you can get that?

Mike (01:51:01):
I'm working with Senator Grassley's office,
my former boss, the chairman of the
judiciary committee, Senator Mike Lee,
house judiciary members I'm working on that
legislation right now.

Lara (01:51:11):
Okay, so well, good luck with that.
We're going to check back with you.

Mike (01:51:15):
Thank you, keep me on task.

Lara (01:51:17):
Yeah.

Mike (01:51:24):
And if you can talk about any of those
things you can't talk about now, you just
let us know Okay, let's talk about it,
let's talk about who we're firing next and
no, I'm kidding, we're not doing that.

Lara (01:51:28):
Well, thank you very, very much for being
here.
I know we got to get you to the airport.

Mike (01:51:32):
Yeah, thank you.
And thank you to Joe for taking me out to
dinner and feeding me too many drinks last
night.
You know that.

Lara (01:51:40):
I'm the.

Mike (01:51:40):
Irish guy, so thank you for having me.
This is a Texas is a great place with great
people, so thank you.

Lara (01:51:47):
Thanks for going, rogue.

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