In the latest “Rogue Roundtable”, Lara, Luke and Keith break down the controversy behind the Islamic-only developments in Texas, the battle over revoked security clearances, and the hidden national security threats lurking in the global shipping trade.
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Lara (00:00):
I lived in Iraq for five years.
I lived in Afghanistan for several years
and I loved the people.
I loved being there.
However, I was a foreign woman in a culture
where none of the local women could live
(00:20):
like I was living, not even a snowball's
chance in hell that they could even get
close to that.
I mean, let's not forget, in the Islamic
Emirate of Afghanistan today, women are
held as prisoners in their own home.
And now, you know, and they're treated as
domestic chattel.
I mean children, young girls are traded,
you know, to settle domestic disputes or to
(00:41):
pay for a cow or whatever you know, sold
off, to be raped every day of their lives
by a man 20, 30, 40 years older than them.
They're banned from public life, they're
banned from school, they're banned from all
forms of education, they're banned from the
workplace.
I mean, they're prisoners in their home.
They have no rights.
I mean, are you kidding me?
(01:13):
Welcome back to the Rogue Roundtable with
Laura Logan and my esteemed co-host, luke
Coffey.
We want to begin today with a couple
thoughts on what has been happening lately
around us.
I am kind of annoyed that this signal story
has gotten such traction, because it's
(01:35):
pretty much the same old tactics that we're
seeing at play here.
This is reminiscent of the Trump
administration, when they were talking
about Russia collusion, and then it was the
Magnitsky meeting.
You know, there was that meeting that
happened in Trump tower, and then it's sort
of.
You know, what we saw happen was that the
Trump administration lurched from one
(01:56):
manufactured fake crisis to the next, and
they were constantly playing defense.
Well, trump started really strong this time
around, you know, with Doge and all the
things that they were uncovering.
It was staggering, and every day there was
something new.
But what seems to be happening now is more
(02:18):
and more and more the administration is
going from offense to defense.
What bothers me about that?
Well, nobody wins on defense, typically,
right.
So that's one part of it.
The other part of it is that this issue of
lawfare that was so effective first time
around is still being effective.
It's not as effective and people are
speaking up this time and the
administration is prepared.
(02:40):
They've been meticulous about the way
they've crafted certain orders and so on,
but it's not, you know, it's not foolproof,
and so what we have now is a situation
where, increasingly, the administration
seems to be slowing down.
Now I recognize I'm not inside the
administration, I'm not sitting in strategy
(03:02):
meetings, I'm not speaking from inside a
knowledge.
I'm looking at the landscape as it appears
around us, based on.
What we know and what we are seeing is that
there is no real indication yet that anyone
is going to be held accountable for things
like treason, things like sedition, treason
(03:27):
and sedition, subversion, conspiracy, right,
real legal conspiracies.
And as long as people are able to get away
with that kind of thing, we know they're
just going to keep on doing it.
What I am hearing from multiple different
sources is that inside, doj Pambani has a
real issue in that the tactics are stole,
(03:51):
stole and stole.
So she may order something to be
investigated or something to be done.
They'll say yes, sir ma'am, you know we'll
get right on it and they're going to do
absolutely nothing about it.
It's very obvious that the strategy you're
looking at here is to ride out the Trump
administration, to just wait it out.
If you can cripple them in the midterms and
(04:12):
just keep putting them on the defense over
and over and over again.
Whether it's a real crisis, a manufactured
crisis, it really doesn't matter.
Well, that is disconcerting, because until
we see people held accountable, it's hard
to see how that's going to change.
And it's not just happening inside DOJ,
it's happening inside DEA, it's also
(04:34):
happening inside the military.
This is a real issue, and if the Trump
administration isn't seen to be doing a lot
more on the legal side.
It's a pretty bleak picture that's starting
to emerge, luke.
Having said all of that, one bright
(04:58):
positive sign that has taken place is the
revoking of security clearances.
Trump has done a number of orders I think
it's three orders now, right, right and
basically he is upending this system that
has become normal to us.
But it's really quite crazy where people
(05:20):
who get security clearances to do a
particular job, when they leave that job,
they keep their clearance.
Why.
Luke (05:29):
Doesn't make any sense to me.
Lara (05:31):
Right.
Why do you still?
If you're Kamala Harris, you were vice
president.
You had a security clearance because you
needed it for your job.
Your position gave you access to privileged
information secret information.
So when you're no longer the vice president,
why do you still need that access?
Luke (05:50):
exactly, especially if you're working
against the the will of the american people,
if you, you know, knowingly it's, if it's
revealed that way, so it's.
Yeah, I mean we've got so some, you know
the Biden.
Lara (06:04):
This is according to the latest executive
order, the latest yeah.
Luke (06:08):
Kamala, hillary Clinton, anthony Blinken,
jake Sullivan, Lisa Monaco, mark Zaid, mark
Zaid, zaid.
Yeah, norm, eisen, norm.
Lara (06:17):
Eisen yeah.
Luke (06:18):
Letitia James.
Yeah, alvin Bragg, andrew Wiseman.
Lara (06:20):
Oh wow, liz Eisen yeah, letitia.
Luke (06:22):
James Alvin Bragg, andrew Wiseman.
Oh, wow.
Liz Cheney Crying.
Adam Kissinger, fiona Hill, alexander
Vindman.
Lara (06:36):
Oh, Vindman, that traitor.
Luke (06:37):
Yeah, and then other members of the Biden
family, but also we've got General Milley
Unbelievable.
Brennan, brennan sorry, johney Unbelievable.
Lara (06:45):
Brennan.
Luke (06:46):
Brennan Brennan.
Sorry, john Brennan, john Brennan.
Lara (06:47):
Okay.
So if you look at some of those, this is
like a who's who of treason and sedition.
I mean, all of these people are part of the
conspiracy to undermine a duly elected
president, which is illegal under US Code.
You know 18 US Code, chapter 115, right,
and people can look it up and read it for
(07:09):
themselves.
They don't have to take my word for it.
Norm Eisen now he's something else.
That guy, norm Eisen and David Brock, were
together at CRU, citizens for
Responsibility and Ethics, right.
This is supposed to be another one of these
bipartisan, nonpartisan sort of you know
organizations.
(07:29):
That's also a 501c3.
And this has been one of the main forces
behind the lawfare weaponizing the legal
system against the people of this country.
And Norm I mean Norm Eisen now has a
podcast with that horrible woman from, uh,
the new york times.
(07:49):
What is it?
Ruben, okay, uh, janet rubin.
I mean these two, uh, it's quite incredible.
I mean, if we actually had a justice system
that was working and we had people that um
are going to hold them accountable, they,
these kind of people, are top of the list.
I mean, why you?
Also, who else did you have on there?
You know, lisa Monaco she's another big
(08:11):
name on there been heavily involved in
subverting the Trump administration the
first time around and continuing to do so
now, so why would you give your political
enemies access to privileged information
that allows them to undermine and subvert
your government?
(08:32):
That's the most ridiculous thing ever.
Luke (08:34):
Thank goodness Trump is actually doing
something about it this time around, but,
of course, what they're doing is saying
it's retribution and they're turning the
same that they they claimed that we were
saying when they were using against Trump.
Now they're saying that you know, it's
retribution because of it was it is,
because of the lawfare Right.
Lara (08:55):
I mean, I mean that's because John Brennan
went on television for years saying that
Donald Trump was a Russian spy.
Exactly that he was, that his handler was
Vladimir Putin.
And you know, one lie after another, after
another, after another.
Luke (09:12):
Why does a man like that who's Studio, dog
Studio, dog Studio dog wants to be here.
Lara (09:16):
Why does a man like that, who is openly
subverting and lying about the president of
the United States, why does he have access
to privileged information Security
clearance?
Honestly, if you look at the law, this is a
determination not of the Department of
Justice.
This is not their jurisdiction.
It falls under the Department of Defense.
(09:38):
And who is the commander-in-chief?
Who's the head of the Department of Defense?
Donald Trump.
So this is why, even though they're mad
about it, even though they're, you know
they can yell about it all they like in the
media.
They can't do anything to change it,
because he absolutely has the authority to
revoke their clearances.
Yeah, just the same way, by the way, that
(10:00):
when they're have, you have a an
appointment that they try to hold up their
clearances.
Right, tulsi gabbard?
You know all appointment that they try to
hold up their clearances.
Right, tulsi Gabbard?
You know all of these people.
They try to hold up their clearances.
Who's doing that?
Department of Justice?
Why are you letting them?
Luke (10:11):
They don't have jurisdiction.
And didn't Biden do it after he took
presidency with Trump?
Isn't that true?
I?
Lara (10:17):
don't remember.
I think you're right about that but I don't
remember a hundred percent.
Yeah, he did pull it right, yeah, I mean.
So they don't.
They don't hesitate to do this, but it's
just that there's weird things in
government that have sort of crept in.
Typically, when you get a security
clearance, you're hired to do a job, or in
the military they would call it a billet
right, and that's what your clearance is
supposed to to be for.
(10:39):
So when you're no longer doing that job, I
don't think you should still have a
clearance yeah, well, it's, it's.
Luke (10:45):
It's argued that you know, previous
presidents um have want to be able to
advise present ones, so they that's why I
don't care.
Lara (10:53):
Yeah, you don't care.
No, I don't care.
Do you care?
No, do you do you?
Want a previous president.
You want to obama advising no no right and,
for that matter, bush and why is biden on
this?
Luke (11:07):
I mean, why isn't obama on this list?
Lara (11:09):
well, didn't he already do?
Obama?
I don't know.
We'd have to check that one, check on that
one.
Luke (11:12):
Okay, let's talk um about a really big
story here in texas, and I've gotten a lot
of texts and emails from a lot of people um
us being in Texas about this topic, so I'm
glad we're covering it.
Lara (11:28):
And it's not just Texas right?
Luke (11:29):
No, it's not, no it echoes across the
country.
Lara (11:31):
It does so.
This story is really about something called
Epic City, which is a vast Islamic
development that is being run by the East
Plano Islamic Center, which is Plano.
Texas is outside of Dallas, and they have
(11:51):
built this massive development with a mega
mosque that is wrapped up in a nice bow
about diversity and inclusion and
togetherness and unity and all the rest of
it.
But I'd just like to see them about
diversity and inclusion and togetherness
and unity and all the rest of it.
But I'd just like to see them if a whole
bunch of Jewish people said they wanted to
buy property there.
Let's take a look at how they present it.
Video (12:13):
Assalamu alaikum, wa rahmatullahi wa
barakatuh, brothers and sisters, I'm sure
many of you have heard of the amazing
project that we're doing, known as Epic
Cities.
We are, alhamdulillah, constructing an
entire city half an hour from downtown
dallas, literally 30 minutes from our own
plain old masjid over here.
It's going to be a city of over a thousand
people.
Alhamdulillah, we launched this website
(12:34):
last year and we sold the entire phase one
within days.
Because of the demand, we are now opening
up epic ranches.
Epic ranches is an exclusive opportunity
for those who want to be within minutes of
epic city but also want larger plots.
We have two epic ranches.
Epic ranches one begins with one acreage
(12:55):
and goes up to five acreage, and epic
ranches two has plots of half acre and also
investment opportunities for those who want
to build condominiums.
Brothers and sisters, this is a limited
time opportunity.
It is an amazing time to invest for the
future, not only in yourselves, but of your
children after you.
We are, inshallah, gonna change the entire
da'wah scene by demonstrating to the world
(13:16):
what it means to be a muslim living in the
west to talk about the financial details.
Lara (13:21):
So, luke, that's right by your home, that's
right by where you were born and raised.
Luke (13:25):
That's my hometown, yeah, the big D as they
call it, and I don't mean divorce, I mean
Dallas.
Lara (13:32):
Okay, this is.
I mean, that video is a couple years old
and they've actually built this now.
So let's take a look at like at the center
of this whole development is a mega mosque.
Okay, with the school, which is obviously
an Islamic school.
Take a look, look at that teacher.
(13:57):
I mean that's like a madrasa.
Those are like the madrasas I would see in
Afghanistan or Pakistan.
Like the madrasas I would see in
Afghanistan or Pakistan.
You know, they talk about that.
They have a boys and girls school, you know,
and at the center of this development,
that's not like any other school in America.
Luke (14:18):
No, that's not your typical American school.
I would say no.
Lara (14:26):
Okay, so now this development I mean I've
seen other videos where they're, you know,
the kids are making Palestinian flags and
so on and so on, and there's obviously a
lot of talk about the whole
Palestinian-Israeli issue.
I want to point out the fact that I mean
this has gone from development now to
actually being.
It has been built.
There were two significant legal actions
(14:47):
that just happened.
One is that the Attorney General of the
state of Texas Ken Paxton he launched an
investigation into the holding company for
potential violations in the Consumer Act.
Luke (15:00):
Right.
Lara (15:01):
And then Greg Abbott, the governor, has
announced he's taken action on them for a
funeral home that's not licensed.
Okay, so I hear that.
I'm like I get it.
The US legal system works slowly.
(15:23):
There's a bill of rights, there's freedom
of religion, there's the constitution,
there's all of these things, so this is
tricky water to navigate.
There's also all the politics involved in
this, but this is this is akin to getting
el capone for tax evasion right instead of
mass murder yep.
Luke (15:40):
So I mean you.
You know, laura, you have lived in Islamic
countries working before, and you know the
culture, what is fear-based and what is
reality when it comes to something like
this, because you know there's obviously a
lot of you know, different opinions around
(16:00):
this being built and you know changing our
and and what that looks like.
What's your view of this?
Now living up living within an islamic
country and now seeing it, you know, with
their goal of bringing it.
You know, bringing it here, enlarging it,
growing it okay.
Lara (16:18):
So I mean, first of all, I lived in iran
for five years.
I I lived in Afghanistan for several years
and I loved the people, I loved being there,
right, right.
However, I was a foreign woman in a culture
where none of the local women could live
(16:40):
like I was living, right, not even a
snowball's chance in hell that they could
even get close to that.
I mean, let's not forget, in the Islamic
Emirate of Afghanistan today, women are
held as prisoners in their own home and now,
you know, and they're treated as domestic
chattel.
I mean children, young girls are traded,
you know, to settle domestic disputes or to
(17:01):
pay for a cow or whatever you know, sold
off to be raped every day of their lives by
a man 20, 30, 40 years older than them.
They're banned from public life, they're
banned from school, they're banned from all
forms of education, they're banned from the
workplace.
I mean they're prisoners in their home.
They have no rights.
I mean, are you kidding me?
(17:21):
Okay, so I say that you know that my time
in Afghanistan obviously I was there under
the Taliban and then the Taliban was
overthrown and so it was very different,
but I got to live under a different set of
rules, that foreign women get treated
differently when it comes to this place.
(17:43):
There are so many things here to talk about.
I just want to lay out so on the, you know,
from their point of view.
Uh, I've listened to many speeches by uh,
the, the islamic cleric that is kind of in
the face of this, and they, they argue.
You know their whole argument.
Their whole position is that they are about
unity and togetherness and being part of
(18:04):
the community and so on.
Right, they've got all the buzzwords.
They know exactly how to make this sound
like it is not what it is, which is an
Islamic enclave that is, both politically
and culturally, completely and utterly
different to American culture and society.
(18:27):
And if you criticize them on the other side,
what happens?
You are immediately accused of being
Islamophobic, racist, and so on.
I actually think it's important always to
listen to people and hear what they say in
their own words, and so I would like to
hear from the cleric in his own words.
But before we go to that clip, I want to
(18:48):
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Lara (23:41):
Okay, so back with the show.
I want you to hear from the cleric who is
the face of this epic mosque, this Islamic
enclave.
They call it a city that they're building.
It looks like a city.
It's, of course, legally not an actual city,
and they talk repeatedly about expanding
(24:04):
and this being the center, the Islamic
center of North America.
Right, this is the center of it.
To me, that sounds more like a command and
control center than it does like a
headquarters, but you listen to what he has
to say.
Video (24:18):
Let us bring about a revolution.
If every one of us, brothers and sisters we
are in this audience, over 10,000.
If every one of us made it our goal that
I'm going to change the minds of 10 people,
10 people, I'm going to change the minds of
10 people, 10 people.
I'm going to change the minds of 10 of my
colleagues, 10 of my friends, 10 of the
people I associate with.
(24:39):
In the next year, that would automatically
mean a hundred thousand people are now
seeing the world from a different
perspective.
If all the muslims of america did the same
thing, what would happen?
We would literally bring about a political
and cultural revolution.
This is our job in this country.
Here's the point In an entire umbrage of
(25:00):
1.5 billion people.
We are the only Muslims who have the
political clout to change the system
legally from within.
You can elect a person who wants the Sharia
political engagement, about the
establishment of an Islamic political
system entity to enact these realities of
(25:23):
the Sharia we have about 225 Muslim elected
officials in the country.
Today we have 35 offices for care
nationwide.
Tell me what you're doing different to help
Islam to have deeper roots in this country
and for the next generation to be ready to
(25:45):
take over inshallah.
Lara (25:47):
What do you think?
Luke (25:48):
Well, I want you to get in.
You know, the law of the land is the
Constitution, and we also have the identity
of America and, specifically, I'm a Texan,
almost a Texan first and an American second.
Lara (26:04):
Like any true Texan.
Luke (26:05):
Proud Texan.
But when you see, you know, when you hear
something like this that they want to, you
know, have a cultural revolution and change
the culture of you know what we celebrate
as America, that's a big concern to me and
we also.
You know we can get into Europe and the UK
and the open borders.
(26:26):
We're seeing a future, you know, maybe plan,
see that play out in UK and Europe, and so
I don't want that here, but that's a
concern.
You know, without sounding racist or
Islamophobic, yeah, we're not going to play
the racism, Islamophobia game.
Lara (26:45):
We're not going to play that game.
It's nonsense.
In fact, Islamophobia is a made up term
term yeah that was created by george
soros's found a open society foundation and
his whole network about, uh, you know
number of years ago.
Uh, the papers on this were actually leaked
by an organization called dc leaks and then
they've been scrubbed from the internet.
I've tried to find them, um, again, you
(27:07):
know, over and over and, yeah, they
vanished, but unfortunately for them.
You know, I still remember what was in
there and it was literally a playbook
describing of how to create.
They defined it, they created the term and
they were training people on how to spread
this right and the target, how to target
journalists, elected officials, you know,
(27:29):
academia, teachers and professors, schools,
and you know academia teachers and
professors, schools and you know and think
tanks and so on and so on.
So they didn't just create the term, they
had a plan for implementing this term into
the conversation.
They even had you know lists of things that,
if people talk about this, this is when you
raise Islamophobia, etc.
Etc.
And the purpose of these tactics is to shut
(27:50):
down the conversation yeah, silence people
and cancel them and the result of that is
that you have a, an islamic enclave that is
now grown right in in plano texas or
josephine texas, right in the middle of
rural america, outside of dallas, and no
one dares say a word.
Right, they've just let it happen.
(28:11):
And those people like there's a guy, john
Guandolo, who's been working on this kind
of issue for years.
John Guandolo is one of the most attacked
people that you can ever imagine.
If you look up his name and what'll they
say?
That he's racist, that he's Islamophobic,
and so on and so on.
I've met John a couple of times.
He did not strike me that way at all.
I'm not going to play that game because
(28:32):
it's nonsense, right?
If you look at what that man is talking
about.
That cleric I think his name is Al-Qadir
right.
He is talking about political and cultural
revolution.
Luke (28:46):
Do you want, and it's a radicalized version
of that right.
Lara (28:50):
Well, I mean, even if it's not, do you want
a cultural revolution or do you want to,
and it's a radicalized version of that
right?
Well, I mean, even if it's not Sharia law,
even if it's not, do you want a cultural
revolution?
Luke (28:54):
No, I do not, or do you?
Lara (28:54):
want to preserve your culture, I want to
preserve my culture.
So are you allowed to do that?
Luke (29:00):
That's what's funny, is you know, as we've
become the enemy of state the white,
heterosexual, christian male is kind of
we've.
The last four years, we, I feel like we've
been somewhat demonized, demonized yeah,
especially we speak up completely, we have,
we have okay, thank you yeah, you're the
bad guys, yeah and I think that you know
they don't.
(29:20):
They want to silence us and keep us, you
know and and the easiest thing think about
the second world war.
Lara (29:25):
Yeah, who defeated the nazis?
I mean in no small part, right, big, hefty,
strong, brave, white, heterosexual guys
from all over towns and cities all over
america.
Right, I mean a lot, a lot of the middle of
honor winners.
Where do they come from?
Tiny little rural towns in america, people
that were willing to stand up for freedom
(29:46):
and fight and do what was right.
So of course, you have to be removed from
the battlefield but it's easy to tag us as
white supremacists.
Luke (29:52):
If you want to preserve your culture and
your cultural identity in America, it's an
easy label right.
Lara (30:00):
Oh no, it's not an easy label.
It's been turned into an easy label.
So if you want to defend your culture, if
you want to protect it or if you want to
preserve it, you're not allowed to do that.
You are now an extremist and you're a white
supremacist and so on.
Luke (30:15):
Christian nationalist is the term.
They use.
Lara (30:17):
And, by the way, colonizers are all evil,
right, all white people are colonizers.
But in a sense, this is a form, this is
cultural colonization.
It is yeah, and political, and these are
not.
He says we can create a revolution.
This is what we can create.
If all of you will do this, we can be part
and lead a cultural and political
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revolution.
I mean, I don't know about you, but you
know, I'm an immigrant.
I came here to adopt to the American way of
life, yes, and celebrate it and celebrate
it right.
And I didn't come here to change it and
make it something else.
And, by the way, we're not just talking
about small changes, right?
I mean, look at that school.
(31:01):
Do you want your daughter being educated
like that?
Luke (31:06):
No, I do not.
Lara (31:07):
Okay.
So then people will say, well, why can't
you know?
Your daughter doesn't have to.
She can go to American school.
You know why can't they have their own
schools?
Well, in lots of the videos they talk about
this being the first of many, right, and
they talk about expanding and expanding,
and expanding.
And then you heard that guy from you know
CARE, the Muslim Association, right, right,
(31:31):
saying that we need this so that the next
generation can take over exactly I mean you
can't deny, does it?
does it mean that every islamic person in
america supports this?
No, does it mean that every islamic person
in america wants to take over?
No, it doesn't mean that, and that's not
what anyone would be stupid enough to say.
But what is it exactly that is being taught
inside that command and control center?
(31:54):
How would you know, would they?
They say they don't discriminate, but do
they want you know?
Are they going to let in one or two token
jewish people so they can say that they're
diverse?
Luke (32:03):
yeah, or are they teaching that non-muslims
are infidels?
Lara (32:06):
I mean well, let's hear.
So, you know, recently, of course, the
palestinian issue has been exploited to
drive a wedge throughout america, and it's
interesting because the palestinian issue
used to only really echo on the arab street,
but now there's so many uh, there's such a
huge islamic population across the west
that this is now an issue that is right on
(32:27):
our doorstep, right.
So here is the same cleric talking about
this the arrest of the Muslim student who
was arrested for his supposedly for his
ties, his support for Hamas and all the
other things he was doing in violation of
his visa, which was a green card, which is
(32:48):
still a visa.
I was a green card holder, so I'm very
familiar with this and, of course, the
argument of the left was oh, it's free
speech, it's free speech, you know he's
protected, and the Trump administration's
position was he violated the terms of his
visa, he's out of here, right and notice.
No one's able to challenge that, because
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that is absolutely the law.
But listen to what this guy is preaching
about this issue.
Video (33:17):
As we speak, there is a massive issue
taking place that is going to deal with
every one of you in this audience.
The president, as you're aware, has carte
blanche, decided a particular person a
Muslim, a Palestinian does not have the
rights that everybody else does.
No court of law, no system, no jury the
(33:37):
president's signature has arrested a legal
green card citizen for protesting against
Israel and for supporting the rights of the
Palestinians.
And again, if you feel this is not
appropriate, I disagree with you, because
this deals with me and you right here and
now.
If he's allowed to get away with this, then
next is going to be naturalized citizens.
(33:57):
How many of you are naturalized citizens as
we speak right now?
This case is going to be a litmus test for
what follows the fact of the matter and I'm
sorry to be blunt, but we don't have time
for political correctness the majority of
us are disconnected from what is going on.
We feel that's not going to affect us.
No, history has shown.
(34:17):
Even the ups and downs of this country have
shown if we don't rally together, if we
don't make sure that all of us have the
same freedoms, what is happening is
blatantly unconstitutional.
For 200 years, the Supreme Court has ruled
that a green card holder has the same
rights as an American citizen.
Lara (34:35):
Okay, okay, you're killing me.
I got to stop it here.
I got to stop it here, okay.
For 200 years, the Supreme Court has ruled
that a green card holder has the same
rights as an American citizen.
What a load of nonsense.
Luke (34:49):
Yeah, where's he getting that?
Lara (34:50):
he's making it up.
He's literally making it up.
First of all, did you hear that he referred
there to a, a green card holder citizen?
Yeah, yeah, okay, no, no such thing, no
such thing.
So the man is conflating the rights, uh, of
a citizen with that of a naturalized
citizen and a green card holder.
(35:11):
He's putting all those things together
right, and naturalized citizen has the same
rights as an american citizen.
A green card holder is a visa.
You're a visa holder.
You know, I I got uh death threats once and
I called the fbi more than that okay one of
the times I got death threats when I
arrived.
I arrived in the us.
I was living in iraq at the time I arrived
in the US.
(35:31):
I was living in Iraq at the time.
I arrived in the US for work and I called
the FBI and one of the things that they
said to me when they called me back was we
verified.
You know, this threat is coming from this
blah, blah blah.
However, we can't help you Because why
You're not a US citizen?
You know, I was a green card holder.
I was on a visa.
I was on a visa then, so they were limited
(35:53):
in terms of the things that they could do.
There are limits to your visa.
The reality is that no government in the
world is obliged to give you a visa.
They can pick and choose and they can deny
you a visa based on anything they want.
You can object and you can try to fight it,
but they still have that right.
(36:17):
So here he is basically making accusations
about the US president and the current
administration, stating things that are not
true, fear-mongering, telling all those
people there you're all naturalized
citizens.
They're coming for you next.
Luke (36:28):
Right.
Lara (36:29):
Right.
Luke (36:30):
It's wild.
Keith, I want to hear your opinion on this.
Lara (36:36):
Let's see what Keith has to say.
He's been quiet today.
Keith (36:39):
Howdy.
Well, I think that how do you fight?
This is the question, like, how do you go
about?
You know, sort of um, engage in this, in
sort of batting back?
I guess the the in the culture war, but I
(37:01):
think the the biggest way is we have to, as,
as americans and as patriots, we, we have
to um, assert our, our own culture with
pride and we have to defend it culturally.
We have to, we have to teach our kids it
starts in the home.
We have to, you know, we have to take
(37:22):
control of our schools on the local level.
Um, that's how we, that's the big I would
say, that's the, it's the number one thing
we can do is we have to keep the hearts and
minds, uh, of our, of, you know, of our
children and uh, in our communities.
Lara (37:41):
Well, that's the whole point of inserting
15, 16, 17, 18 million illegal immigrants
in a very short space of time.
Right, it's because they don't understand
what it means to be American.
They don't share that love of Americana,
american history.
They don't know what it means, what the
culture of America is really about.
And the question then becomes how many of
(38:04):
them want to, how many of them really want
that?
Do you want to continue to follow your
cultural practices?
And, by the way, what is the law of the
land inside your Islamic enclave?
Because there's been, you know they'll say
that anything that you say about this
online is completely wrong and it's a lie.
This cleric is out there saying he's got
(38:25):
the backing of the mayor of Plano and the
mayor of Richardson and the mayor of
another county there you know another town
there and that the police chief is there
and they're all kissing the ring right.
They're all bending over themselves to show
oh, we welcome you in our community and
we've got your back and we're going to look
after you.
Don't you worry.
You know anyone says anything about you.
Come to us, you come to us, I don't.
(38:56):
There is, it's very obvious listening if
you look a little bit deeper and you listen
to what this cleric, who's the face of this,
has said in the past.
I mean he believes in the supremacy of
Sharia law.
Luke (39:08):
There you go yeah.
Lara (39:09):
Right and that Sharia law is God's law and
it's above all other laws.
Luke (39:13):
Will you get an overview of Sharia law?
For I mean that's not Constitution, I mean
it's not following any bit of the
Constitution, it doesn't align with
anything.
Lara (39:20):
Well, he believes that women should only do
tasks that their husbands permit them to do.
He said that in previous speeches.
I mean, there's a lot, Some of it is
political and some of it is cultural and
some of it is ideological and religion and
faith-based, but it's extraordinary to me
that this is happening in Texas and you
(39:43):
don't hear about it.
Nobody wants to talk about it.
It's not just happening here, though.
If you look at Patterson, New Jersey,
there's a similar takeover there, and when
you look a little further afield, I
remember a few years ago I mean, the Paris
attacks came out of an Islamic suburb of
Brussels which was pretty much a no-go area.
(40:05):
I knew a Romani, a gypsy guy who was a beat
cop in that district, and the things that
he described were absolutely unbelievable
of Brussels, where there were only Islamic
candidates running for office and they were
running on a platform of Sharia law and of
separating public spaces for men and women,
(40:27):
you know, and so on and so on.
I mean they're advocating for things that
are culturally, ideologically, completely
at odds with Western culture and values.
So, yes, okay, Governor Abbott is going
after them for operating a funeral home
without a license and Ken Paxton is taking
action to really the beginning, but this is
(40:50):
after it's already built.
Luke (40:53):
Where have they been?
It's like okay, the stadium is built,
they're ready to play ball.
Why weren't you there at the groundbreaking
of it all?
Lara (41:03):
Well, because they hide behind the
Constitution and the First Amendment right
and behind these attacks in the media that
say if you question anything like this,
then somehow you're a bad person and
they're allowed to fight for their culture
and for their ideology, but you're not
allowed to fight for yours.
When you do it, you're a white supremacist.
Luke (41:23):
Right.
Lara (41:23):
And nationalism has become so demonized.
So you know, there's another example here.
I mean, you look at Europe.
Yes, I mean, there are these rape gangs in
Sweden and in the Nordic countries and in
Germany.
Years ago you know, this is being a former
German town it has some German connections,
(41:44):
and I remember one of the mothers of one of
my kids, her aunt, worked at a Hilton hotel
and on New Year's Eve, every New Year's Eve,
all of the women who worked for Hilton had
to stay at the hotel and were not allowed
to travel because of these Islamic migrant
rape gangs that would just, you know, carry
(42:07):
out a reign of terror on the streets at
night on New Year's Eve.
It started out then.
Now you have the UK talking about grooming
gangs.
These are not grooming gangs, these are
Islamic rape gangs that have been operating
in the UK for years.
I mean, yeah, texas has allowed this to be
built right under their noses, but over
(42:28):
there they're actually allowing their own
children to be raped and sometimes, and
brutally, brutally, physically damaged, and
they're silent about it.
They don't, even now, when they're talking
about it, they don't even call it what it
is.
And then you know, on top of all of that,
what else do you have happening in Europe?
(42:50):
You've had attacks for years in France, in
the south of France and Toulouse and other
places, attacks against Jewish people that
nobody wants to talk about, nobody wants to
say anything.
I know a Catholic priest who told me he
will never wear his priest collar on the
streets of Paris anymore because he will be
attacked.
Wow, yes.
(43:10):
And then you remember a few years ago when
Fox News was absolutely savaged.
It was during the Trump administration the
first time around.
They were savage for reporting that there
were these areas of Paris, the banlieue,
where there were sort of no-go Islamic
areas, and everybody said it was a lie and
most of the media was mocking Fox for that.
Completely true.
(43:32):
I mean Paris.
The city of Paris is surrounded by what the
French call banlieue, which are their
suburbs.
I tried to go into one of the banlieues a
couple of years ago and with a very brave
person who spent a lot of time in the
Islamic world, he absolutely refused to
take me because he said we will be killed.
A couple of days before they had just
killed two French policemen that had gone
(43:53):
in there.
These areas are almost entirely ungoverned
and they are a law unto themselves and
we're still lying about it in the media and
treating people who talk about it as if
they're evil somehow.
Luke (44:08):
So what is your opinion of that?
That's because the globalists run our media
and they want this.
They want your identity, your sovereign
identity, to disappear and they want it
just to be a melting pot of chaos.
I mean, what's your view?
Lara (44:22):
I think that's pretty spot on yeah I mean
it's pretty, it's obvious at this point.
What does no borders mean?
Means a war on sovereignty, right, they
don't want nations, yeah, and and the
strongest care about your sovereignty.
Luke (44:34):
I mean it's, it's now we're.
I mean that's the liberal worldview.
Is you welcome everybody and you?
You know this is open borders and culture
needs to evolve and change.
Lara (44:43):
Well, the liberal, well, so the progressive,
progressive worldview Is that if you build
a city like that and it's a thousand homes
and all of it is Muslim, then it's diverse
Right, but if all of those people were
white or Christian, then it would be a
symbol of Nazism, fascism and racism.
(45:04):
Hypocrisy.
Luke (45:05):
Yeah.
Lara (45:06):
Victor Davis Hanson is a great, great
professor of classical studies and a great
voice.
He's written many books.
He's wonderful, I mean.
He lives in the town of Fresno, where he
was born, where his grand, his parents were
born, his grandparents, you know.
They've been there for generations, same
house, same house even.
(45:26):
And victor was just.
He was just laughing, saying to me you know,
when I grew up, it was sort of 90 white
here.
It's now something like I don't know 90, 95
hispanic.
So when he was growing up, it was was not
considered diverse.
Now that most of the white people have been
driven out and it's mostly Hispanic now,
it's diverse.
It's like, come on, come on.
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I mean and it's weird for me even to be
having this conversation, because I'm
definitely a person who I've always
embraced other cultures- and religions.
I see all people as equal.
For me, they're all equal.
But I'll tell you where it ends for me, I
don't want to wear a hijab.
No, I don't want my children to wear a
(46:09):
hijab, I don't want my daughters to.
Not only that, you know, when you, you know
you have a lot of people will say, all the
time well, you know, it's not true that
women are not treated well in the Quran.
You know Muhammad's wife was, you know, a
woman who had her own business, and you
know she worked.
They give you all these arguments.
All of that is propaganda, it's
(46:29):
anti-Islamic, it's whatever.
And my answer to them is this Great, I
understand.
Islam is misunderstood, it's been
misrepresented.
You point to a country like Saudi Arabia,
or you point to Afghanistan and say, oh, no,
no, no, no.
This is not real Islam, this has been
distorted.
So I say okay.
So which country can you point to where
(46:52):
it's been properly implemented?
They can't?
Okay, so that's a lose, okay.
So then tell me this.
Then I have two daughters.
Pick a country where they can have a better
life and they can have the same rights that
they have in this country or any country in
(47:13):
the West.
Find me the Islamic country where they can
have that Guess what?
It also doesn't exist.
So does that mean?
Luke (47:23):
that.
Lara (47:23):
I'm anti-islam absolutely not um 100 false.
But the reality is that I want to protect
the culture and the values and the rights
that we have in our culture and society,
and I don't want to be demonized for that.
And I don't think I should be, you
shouldn't.
Luke (47:44):
And I think about.
I traveled the first time to Islam country,
to Dubai, and I saw firsthand I was doing a
film project over there and there was a
sheik sheik, sheik, Sheik Sheik.
He would drive in his Lamborghini and a
whole harem would follow in a Mercedes
Sprinter van, totally in their in their
(48:06):
covered gowns.
I mean, it was just to imagine that, you
know, happening here in Texas, I mean, and
not being loud about standing up against
you know, or just standing for our culture,
Right.
Lara (48:18):
Yeah.
Luke (48:19):
I mean that's we need, it we're, we're
already, we have pride in our state, but,
like I think we're seeing, we've already
seen not taking a stand and to me it you
know it's, it's okay to, it's not just okay,
it's we need to stand up for our, our
belief system, our culture, what we've
built here, and not just because of cancel
(48:39):
culture, be silent right we're going to
stay on this.
Lara (48:43):
We're going to stay on this and we're going
to continue to follow it.
And you know, whatever people want to do in
their own countries, I mean, you can like
it, you cannot like, it's their business,
not yours, right?
It's not my business.
I'm not going to tell you how to live in
saudi arabia or iran or anywhere else.
I'm not going to say to you I, I, I think's
great, I'm not going to lie, but I'm going
to look for things in the culture that I
like and that can be celebrated, and I'm
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going to be equally as open and honest
about the things I don't.
Okay, so switching gears completely.
You missed most of it today.
Luke, you're going to be sorry.
We have a great new episode coming out the
Going Rogue.
We went rogue this time with Ross Kennedy
(49:27):
on supply chains, global supply chains and
China, and this proposed new action that
the Trump administration is looking at
actually was investigated by the Biden
administration and the Trump people took
this on when they came in, and it has the
potential to shut down the largest
(49:48):
intelligence collection operation in
history for the world of global trade and
shipping through.
Because?
Why?
Because the Chinese use a system on all
their ships which link right back into the
security state, and the US is not having
(50:09):
any of it anymore.
They're focusing on the.
They're going to try to pass this off as
another tariff issue.
It's not about tariffs and this is actually
a really important episode and it affects
all of us and it's it affects, you know,
the supply of food, everything that you can
imagine.
I think it really came home to us during
covet when we saw that you know the
(50:29):
breakdown.
Yeah, china could stop shipping our
medicine anytime they want it.
I mean, who thought that was a good idea?
Okay, so for that and more, don't miss this
week's episode of going rogue with Laura
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you with us.
This is a this is a cool journey.
We are uncovering some really interesting
things and we're happy to have you with us
for the ride.
I lived in Iraq for five years.
I lived in Afghanistan for several years
and I loved the people.
I loved being there.
However, I was a foreign woman in a culture
where none of the local women could live
(00:20):
like I was living, not even a snowball's
chance in hell that they could even get
close to that.
I mean, let's not forget, in the Islamic
Emirate of Afghanistan today, women are
held as prisoners in their own home.
And now, you know, and they're treated as
domestic chattel.
I mean children, young girls are traded,
you know, to settle domestic disputes or to
(00:41):
pay for a cow or whatever you know, sold
off, to be raped every day of their lives
by a man 20, 30, 40 years older than them.
They're banned from public life, they're
banned from school, they're banned from all
forms of education, they're banned from the
workplace.
I mean, they're prisoners in their home.
They have no rights.
I mean, are you kidding me?
(01:13):
Welcome back to the Rogue Roundtable with
Laura Logan and my esteemed co-host, luke
Coffey.
We want to begin today with a couple
thoughts on what has been happening lately
around us.
I am kind of annoyed that this signal story
has gotten such traction, because it's
(01:35):
pretty much the same old tactics that we're
seeing at play here.
This is reminiscent of the Trump
administration, when they were talking
about Russia collusion, and then it was the
Magnitsky meeting.
You know, there was that meeting that
happened in Trump tower, and then it's sort
of.
You know, what we saw happen was that the
Trump administration lurched from one
(01:56):
manufactured fake crisis to the next, and
they were constantly playing defense.
Well, trump started really strong this time
around, you know, with Doge and all the
things that they were uncovering.
It was staggering, and every day there was
something new.
But what seems to be happening now is more
(02:18):
and more and more the administration is
going from offense to defense.
What bothers me about that?
Well, nobody wins on defense, typically,
right.
So that's one part of it.
The other part of it is that this issue of
lawfare that was so effective first time
around is still being effective.
It's not as effective and people are
speaking up this time and the
administration is prepared.
(02:40):
They've been meticulous about the way
they've crafted certain orders and so on,
but it's not, you know, it's not foolproof,
and so what we have now is a situation
where, increasingly, the administration
seems to be slowing down.
Now I recognize I'm not inside the
administration, I'm not sitting in strategy
(03:02):
meetings, I'm not speaking from inside a
knowledge.
I'm looking at the landscape as it appears
around us, based on.
What we know and what we are seeing is that
there is no real indication yet that anyone
is going to be held accountable for things
like treason, things like sedition, treason
(03:27):
and sedition, subversion, conspiracy, right,
real legal conspiracies.
And as long as people are able to get away
with that kind of thing, we know they're
just going to keep on doing it.
What I am hearing from multiple different
sources is that inside, doj Pambani has a
real issue in that the tactics are stole,
(03:51):
stole and stole.
So she may order something to be
investigated or something to be done.
They'll say yes, sir ma'am, you know we'll
get right on it and they're going to do
absolutely nothing about it.
It's very obvious that the strategy you're
looking at here is to ride out the Trump
administration, to just wait it out.
If you can cripple them in the midterms and
(04:12):
just keep putting them on the defense over
and over and over again.
Whether it's a real crisis, a manufactured
crisis, it really doesn't matter.
Well, that is disconcerting, because until
we see people held accountable, it's hard
to see how that's going to change.
And it's not just happening inside DOJ,
it's happening inside DEA, it's also
(04:34):
happening inside the military.
This is a real issue, and if the Trump
administration isn't seen to be doing a lot
more on the legal side.
It's a pretty bleak picture that's starting
to emerge, luke.
Having said all of that, one bright
(04:58):
positive sign that has taken place is the
revoking of security clearances.
Trump has done a number of orders I think
it's three orders now, right, right and
basically he is upending this system that
has become normal to us.
But it's really quite crazy where people
(05:20):
who get security clearances to do a
particular job, when they leave that job,
they keep their clearance.
Why.
Luke (05:29):
Doesn't make any sense to me.
Lara (05:31):
Right.
Why do you still?
If you're Kamala Harris, you were vice
president.
You had a security clearance because you
needed it for your job.
Your position gave you access to privileged
information secret information.
So when you're no longer the vice president,
why do you still need that access?
Luke (05:50):
exactly, especially if you're working
against the the will of the american people,
if you, you know, knowingly it's, if it's
revealed that way, so it's.
Yeah, I mean we've got so some, you know
the Biden.
Lara (06:04):
This is according to the latest executive
order, the latest yeah.
Luke (06:08):
Kamala, hillary Clinton, anthony Blinken,
jake Sullivan, Lisa Monaco, mark Zaid, mark
Zaid, zaid.
Yeah, norm, eisen, norm.
Lara (06:17):
Eisen yeah.
Luke (06:18):
Letitia James.
Yeah, alvin Bragg, andrew Wiseman.
Lara (06:20):
Oh wow, liz Eisen yeah, letitia.
Luke (06:22):
James Alvin Bragg, andrew Wiseman.
Oh, wow.
Liz Cheney Crying.
Adam Kissinger, fiona Hill, alexander
Vindman.
Lara (06:36):
Oh, Vindman, that traitor.
Luke (06:37):
Yeah, and then other members of the Biden
family, but also we've got General Milley
Unbelievable.
Brennan, brennan sorry, johney Unbelievable.
Lara (06:45):
Brennan.
Luke (06:46):
Brennan Brennan.
Sorry, john Brennan, john Brennan.
Lara (06:47):
Okay.
So if you look at some of those, this is
like a who's who of treason and sedition.
I mean, all of these people are part of the
conspiracy to undermine a duly elected
president, which is illegal under US Code.
You know 18 US Code, chapter 115, right,
and people can look it up and read it for
(07:09):
themselves.
They don't have to take my word for it.
Norm Eisen now he's something else.
That guy, norm Eisen and David Brock, were
together at CRU, citizens for
Responsibility and Ethics, right.
This is supposed to be another one of these
bipartisan, nonpartisan sort of you know
organizations.
(07:29):
That's also a 501c3.
And this has been one of the main forces
behind the lawfare weaponizing the legal
system against the people of this country.
And Norm I mean Norm Eisen now has a
podcast with that horrible woman from, uh,
the new york times.
(07:49):
What is it?
Ruben, okay, uh, janet rubin.
I mean these two, uh, it's quite incredible.
I mean, if we actually had a justice system
that was working and we had people that um
are going to hold them accountable, they,
these kind of people, are top of the list.
I mean, why you?
Also, who else did you have on there?
You know, lisa Monaco she's another big
(08:11):
name on there been heavily involved in
subverting the Trump administration the
first time around and continuing to do so
now, so why would you give your political
enemies access to privileged information
that allows them to undermine and subvert
your government?
(08:32):
That's the most ridiculous thing ever.
Luke (08:34):
Thank goodness Trump is actually doing
something about it this time around, but,
of course, what they're doing is saying
it's retribution and they're turning the
same that they they claimed that we were
saying when they were using against Trump.
Now they're saying that you know, it's
retribution because of it was it is,
because of the lawfare Right.
Lara (08:55):
I mean, I mean that's because John Brennan
went on television for years saying that
Donald Trump was a Russian spy.
Exactly that he was, that his handler was
Vladimir Putin.
And you know, one lie after another, after
another, after another.
Luke (09:12):
Why does a man like that who's Studio, dog
Studio, dog Studio dog wants to be here.
Lara (09:16):
Why does a man like that, who is openly
subverting and lying about the president of
the United States, why does he have access
to privileged information Security
clearance?
Honestly, if you look at the law, this is a
determination not of the Department of
Justice.
This is not their jurisdiction.
It falls under the Department of Defense.
(09:38):
And who is the commander-in-chief?
Who's the head of the Department of Defense?
Donald Trump.
So this is why, even though they're mad
about it, even though they're, you know
they can yell about it all they like in the
media.
They can't do anything to change it,
because he absolutely has the authority to
revoke their clearances.
Yeah, just the same way, by the way, that
(10:00):
when they're have, you have a an
appointment that they try to hold up their
clearances.
Right, tulsi gabbard?
You know all appointment that they try to
hold up their clearances.
Right, tulsi Gabbard?
You know all of these people.
They try to hold up their clearances.
Who's doing that?
Department of Justice?
Why are you letting them?
Luke (10:11):
They don't have jurisdiction.
And didn't Biden do it after he took
presidency with Trump?
Isn't that true?
I?
Lara (10:17):
don't remember.
I think you're right about that but I don't
remember a hundred percent.
Yeah, he did pull it right, yeah, I mean.
So they don't.
They don't hesitate to do this, but it's
just that there's weird things in
government that have sort of crept in.
Typically, when you get a security
clearance, you're hired to do a job, or in
the military they would call it a billet
right, and that's what your clearance is
supposed to to be for.
(10:39):
So when you're no longer doing that job, I
don't think you should still have a
clearance yeah, well, it's, it's.
Luke (10:45):
It's argued that you know, previous
presidents um have want to be able to
advise present ones, so they that's why I
don't care.
Lara (10:53):
Yeah, you don't care.
No, I don't care.
Do you care?
No, do you do you?
Want a previous president.
You want to obama advising no no right and,
for that matter, bush and why is biden on
this?
Luke (11:07):
I mean, why isn't obama on this list?
Lara (11:09):
well, didn't he already do?
Obama?
I don't know.
We'd have to check that one, check on that
one.
Luke (11:12):
Okay, let's talk um about a really big
story here in texas, and I've gotten a lot
of texts and emails from a lot of people um
us being in Texas about this topic, so I'm
glad we're covering it.
Lara (11:28):
And it's not just Texas right?
Luke (11:29):
No, it's not, no it echoes across the
country.
Lara (11:31):
It does so.
This story is really about something called
Epic City, which is a vast Islamic
development that is being run by the East
Plano Islamic Center, which is Plano.
Texas is outside of Dallas, and they have
(11:51):
built this massive development with a mega
mosque that is wrapped up in a nice bow
about diversity and inclusion and
togetherness and unity and all the rest of
it.
But I'd just like to see them about
diversity and inclusion and togetherness
and unity and all the rest of it.
But I'd just like to see them if a whole
bunch of Jewish people said they wanted to
buy property there.
Let's take a look at how they present it.
Video (12:13):
Assalamu alaikum, wa rahmatullahi wa
barakatuh, brothers and sisters, I'm sure
many of you have heard of the amazing
project that we're doing, known as Epic
Cities.
We are, alhamdulillah, constructing an
entire city half an hour from downtown
dallas, literally 30 minutes from our own
plain old masjid over here.
It's going to be a city of over a thousand
people.
Alhamdulillah, we launched this website
(12:34):
last year and we sold the entire phase one
within days.
Because of the demand, we are now opening
up epic ranches.
Epic ranches is an exclusive opportunity
for those who want to be within minutes of
epic city but also want larger plots.
We have two epic ranches.
Epic ranches one begins with one acreage
(12:55):
and goes up to five acreage, and epic
ranches two has plots of half acre and also
investment opportunities for those who want
to build condominiums.
Brothers and sisters, this is a limited
time opportunity.
It is an amazing time to invest for the
future, not only in yourselves, but of your
children after you.
We are, inshallah, gonna change the entire
da'wah scene by demonstrating to the world
(13:16):
what it means to be a muslim living in the
west to talk about the financial details.
Lara (13:21):
So, luke, that's right by your home, that's
right by where you were born and raised.
Luke (13:25):
That's my hometown, yeah, the big D as they
call it, and I don't mean divorce, I mean
Dallas.
Lara (13:32):
Okay, this is.
I mean, that video is a couple years old
and they've actually built this now.
So let's take a look at like at the center
of this whole development is a mega mosque.
Okay, with the school, which is obviously
an Islamic school.
Take a look, look at that teacher.
(13:57):
I mean that's like a madrasa.
Those are like the madrasas I would see in
Afghanistan or Pakistan.
Like the madrasas I would see in
Afghanistan or Pakistan.
You know, they talk about that.
They have a boys and girls school, you know,
and at the center of this development,
that's not like any other school in America.
Luke (14:18):
No, that's not your typical American school.
I would say no.
Lara (14:26):
Okay, so now this development I mean I've
seen other videos where they're, you know,
the kids are making Palestinian flags and
so on and so on, and there's obviously a
lot of talk about the whole
Palestinian-Israeli issue.
I want to point out the fact that I mean
this has gone from development now to
actually being.
It has been built.
There were two significant legal actions
(14:47):
that just happened.
One is that the Attorney General of the
state of Texas Ken Paxton he launched an
investigation into the holding company for
potential violations in the Consumer Act.
Luke (15:00):
Right.
Lara (15:01):
And then Greg Abbott, the governor, has
announced he's taken action on them for a
funeral home that's not licensed.
Okay, so I hear that.
I'm like I get it.
The US legal system works slowly.
(15:23):
There's a bill of rights, there's freedom
of religion, there's the constitution,
there's all of these things, so this is
tricky water to navigate.
There's also all the politics involved in
this, but this is this is akin to getting
el capone for tax evasion right instead of
mass murder yep.
Luke (15:40):
So I mean you.
You know, laura, you have lived in Islamic
countries working before, and you know the
culture, what is fear-based and what is
reality when it comes to something like
this, because you know there's obviously a
lot of you know, different opinions around
(16:00):
this being built and you know changing our
and and what that looks like.
What's your view of this?
Now living up living within an islamic
country and now seeing it, you know, with
their goal of bringing it.
You know, bringing it here, enlarging it,
growing it okay.
Lara (16:18):
So I mean, first of all, I lived in iran
for five years.
I I lived in Afghanistan for several years
and I loved the people, I loved being there,
right, right.
However, I was a foreign woman in a culture
where none of the local women could live
(16:40):
like I was living, right, not even a
snowball's chance in hell that they could
even get close to that.
I mean, let's not forget, in the Islamic
Emirate of Afghanistan today, women are
held as prisoners in their own home and now,
you know, and they're treated as domestic
chattel.
I mean children, young girls are traded,
you know, to settle domestic disputes or to
(17:01):
pay for a cow or whatever you know, sold
off to be raped every day of their lives by
a man 20, 30, 40 years older than them.
They're banned from public life, they're
banned from school, they're banned from all
forms of education, they're banned from the
workplace.
I mean they're prisoners in their home.
They have no rights.
I mean, are you kidding me?
(17:21):
Okay, so I say that you know that my time
in Afghanistan obviously I was there under
the Taliban and then the Taliban was
overthrown and so it was very different,
but I got to live under a different set of
rules, that foreign women get treated
differently when it comes to this place.
(17:43):
There are so many things here to talk about.
I just want to lay out so on the, you know,
from their point of view.
Uh, I've listened to many speeches by uh,
the, the islamic cleric that is kind of in
the face of this, and they, they argue.
You know their whole argument.
Their whole position is that they are about
unity and togetherness and being part of
(18:04):
the community and so on.
Right, they've got all the buzzwords.
They know exactly how to make this sound
like it is not what it is, which is an
Islamic enclave that is, both politically
and culturally, completely and utterly
different to American culture and society.
(18:27):
And if you criticize them on the other side,
what happens?
You are immediately accused of being
Islamophobic, racist, and so on.
I actually think it's important always to
listen to people and hear what they say in
their own words, and so I would like to
hear from the cleric in his own words.
But before we go to that clip, I want to
(18:48):
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I've seen you take them.
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Keith (21:11):
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Definitely heavy metals accumulation, we've
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(23:15):
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Lara (23:41):
Okay, so back with the show.
I want you to hear from the cleric who is
the face of this epic mosque, this Islamic
enclave.
They call it a city that they're building.
It looks like a city.
It's, of course, legally not an actual city,
and they talk repeatedly about expanding
(24:04):
and this being the center, the Islamic
center of North America.
Right, this is the center of it.
To me, that sounds more like a command and
control center than it does like a
headquarters, but you listen to what he has
to say.
Video (24:18):
Let us bring about a revolution.
If every one of us, brothers and sisters we
are in this audience, over 10,000.
If every one of us made it our goal that
I'm going to change the minds of 10 people,
10 people, I'm going to change the minds of
10 people, 10 people.
I'm going to change the minds of 10 of my
colleagues, 10 of my friends, 10 of the
people I associate with.
(24:39):
In the next year, that would automatically
mean a hundred thousand people are now
seeing the world from a different
perspective.
If all the muslims of america did the same
thing, what would happen?
We would literally bring about a political
and cultural revolution.
This is our job in this country.
Here's the point In an entire umbrage of
(25:00):
1.5 billion people.
We are the only Muslims who have the
political clout to change the system
legally from within.
You can elect a person who wants the Sharia
political engagement, about the
establishment of an Islamic political
system entity to enact these realities of
(25:23):
the Sharia we have about 225 Muslim elected
officials in the country.
Today we have 35 offices for care
nationwide.
Tell me what you're doing different to help
Islam to have deeper roots in this country
and for the next generation to be ready to
(25:45):
take over inshallah.
Lara (25:47):
What do you think?
Luke (25:48):
Well, I want you to get in.
You know, the law of the land is the
Constitution, and we also have the identity
of America and, specifically, I'm a Texan,
almost a Texan first and an American second.
Lara (26:04):
Like any true Texan.
Luke (26:05):
Proud Texan.
But when you see, you know, when you hear
something like this that they want to, you
know, have a cultural revolution and change
the culture of you know what we celebrate
as America, that's a big concern to me and
we also.
You know we can get into Europe and the UK
and the open borders.
(26:26):
We're seeing a future, you know, maybe plan,
see that play out in UK and Europe, and so
I don't want that here, but that's a
concern.
You know, without sounding racist or
Islamophobic, yeah, we're not going to play
the racism, Islamophobia game.
Lara (26:45):
We're not going to play that game.
It's nonsense.
In fact, Islamophobia is a made up term
term yeah that was created by george
soros's found a open society foundation and
his whole network about, uh, you know
number of years ago.
Uh, the papers on this were actually leaked
by an organization called dc leaks and then
they've been scrubbed from the internet.
I've tried to find them, um, again, you
(27:07):
know, over and over and, yeah, they
vanished, but unfortunately for them.
You know, I still remember what was in
there and it was literally a playbook
describing of how to create.
They defined it, they created the term and
they were training people on how to spread
this right and the target, how to target
journalists, elected officials, you know,
(27:29):
academia, teachers and professors, schools,
and you know academia teachers and
professors, schools and you know and think
tanks and so on and so on.
So they didn't just create the term, they
had a plan for implementing this term into
the conversation.
They even had you know lists of things that,
if people talk about this, this is when you
raise Islamophobia, etc.
Etc.
And the purpose of these tactics is to shut
(27:50):
down the conversation yeah, silence people
and cancel them and the result of that is
that you have a, an islamic enclave that is
now grown right in in plano texas or
josephine texas, right in the middle of
rural america, outside of dallas, and no
one dares say a word.
Right, they've just let it happen.
(28:11):
And those people like there's a guy, john
Guandolo, who's been working on this kind
of issue for years.
John Guandolo is one of the most attacked
people that you can ever imagine.
If you look up his name and what'll they
say?
That he's racist, that he's Islamophobic,
and so on and so on.
I've met John a couple of times.
He did not strike me that way at all.
I'm not going to play that game because
(28:32):
it's nonsense, right?
If you look at what that man is talking
about.
That cleric I think his name is Al-Qadir
right.
He is talking about political and cultural
revolution.
Luke (28:46):
Do you want, and it's a radicalized version
of that right.
Lara (28:50):
Well, I mean, even if it's not, do you want
a cultural revolution or do you want to,
and it's a radicalized version of that
right?
Well, I mean, even if it's not Sharia law,
even if it's not, do you want a cultural
revolution?
Luke (28:54):
No, I do not, or do you?
Lara (28:54):
want to preserve your culture, I want to
preserve my culture.
So are you allowed to do that?
Luke (29:00):
That's what's funny, is you know, as we've
become the enemy of state the white,
heterosexual, christian male is kind of
we've.
The last four years, we, I feel like we've
been somewhat demonized, demonized yeah,
especially we speak up completely, we have,
we have okay, thank you yeah, you're the
bad guys, yeah and I think that you know
they don't.
(29:20):
They want to silence us and keep us, you
know and and the easiest thing think about
the second world war.
Lara (29:25):
Yeah, who defeated the nazis?
I mean in no small part, right, big, hefty,
strong, brave, white, heterosexual guys
from all over towns and cities all over
america.
Right, I mean a lot, a lot of the middle of
honor winners.
Where do they come from?
Tiny little rural towns in america, people
that were willing to stand up for freedom
(29:46):
and fight and do what was right.
So of course, you have to be removed from
the battlefield but it's easy to tag us as
white supremacists.
Luke (29:52):
If you want to preserve your culture and
your cultural identity in America, it's an
easy label right.
Lara (30:00):
Oh no, it's not an easy label.
It's been turned into an easy label.
So if you want to defend your culture, if
you want to protect it or if you want to
preserve it, you're not allowed to do that.
You are now an extremist and you're a white
supremacist and so on.
Luke (30:15):
Christian nationalist is the term.
They use.
Lara (30:17):
And, by the way, colonizers are all evil,
right, all white people are colonizers.
But in a sense, this is a form, this is
cultural colonization.
It is yeah, and political, and these are
not.
He says we can create a revolution.
This is what we can create.
If all of you will do this, we can be part
and lead a cultural and political
(30:39):
revolution.
I mean, I don't know about you, but you
know, I'm an immigrant.
I came here to adopt to the American way of
life, yes, and celebrate it and celebrate
it right.
And I didn't come here to change it and
make it something else.
And, by the way, we're not just talking
about small changes, right?
I mean, look at that school.
(31:01):
Do you want your daughter being educated
like that?
Luke (31:06):
No, I do not.
Lara (31:07):
Okay.
So then people will say, well, why can't
you know?
Your daughter doesn't have to.
She can go to American school.
You know why can't they have their own
schools?
Well, in lots of the videos they talk about
this being the first of many, right, and
they talk about expanding and expanding,
and expanding.
And then you heard that guy from you know
CARE, the Muslim Association, right, right,
(31:31):
saying that we need this so that the next
generation can take over exactly I mean you
can't deny, does it?
does it mean that every islamic person in
america supports this?
No, does it mean that every islamic person
in america wants to take over?
No, it doesn't mean that, and that's not
what anyone would be stupid enough to say.
But what is it exactly that is being taught
inside that command and control center?
(31:54):
How would you know, would they?
They say they don't discriminate, but do
they want you know?
Are they going to let in one or two token
jewish people so they can say that they're
diverse?
Luke (32:03):
yeah, or are they teaching that non-muslims
are infidels?
Lara (32:06):
I mean well, let's hear.
So, you know, recently, of course, the
palestinian issue has been exploited to
drive a wedge throughout america, and it's
interesting because the palestinian issue
used to only really echo on the arab street,
but now there's so many uh, there's such a
huge islamic population across the west
that this is now an issue that is right on
(32:27):
our doorstep, right.
So here is the same cleric talking about
this the arrest of the Muslim student who
was arrested for his supposedly for his
ties, his support for Hamas and all the
other things he was doing in violation of
his visa, which was a green card, which is
(32:48):
still a visa.
I was a green card holder, so I'm very
familiar with this and, of course, the
argument of the left was oh, it's free
speech, it's free speech, you know he's
protected, and the Trump administration's
position was he violated the terms of his
visa, he's out of here, right and notice.
No one's able to challenge that, because
(33:09):
that is absolutely the law.
But listen to what this guy is preaching
about this issue.
Video (33:17):
As we speak, there is a massive issue
taking place that is going to deal with
every one of you in this audience.
The president, as you're aware, has carte
blanche, decided a particular person a
Muslim, a Palestinian does not have the
rights that everybody else does.
No court of law, no system, no jury the
(33:37):
president's signature has arrested a legal
green card citizen for protesting against
Israel and for supporting the rights of the
Palestinians.
And again, if you feel this is not
appropriate, I disagree with you, because
this deals with me and you right here and
now.
If he's allowed to get away with this, then
next is going to be naturalized citizens.
(33:57):
How many of you are naturalized citizens as
we speak right now?
This case is going to be a litmus test for
what follows the fact of the matter and I'm
sorry to be blunt, but we don't have time
for political correctness the majority of
us are disconnected from what is going on.
We feel that's not going to affect us.
No, history has shown.
(34:17):
Even the ups and downs of this country have
shown if we don't rally together, if we
don't make sure that all of us have the
same freedoms, what is happening is
blatantly unconstitutional.
For 200 years, the Supreme Court has ruled
that a green card holder has the same
rights as an American citizen.
Lara (34:35):
Okay, okay, you're killing me.
I got to stop it here.
I got to stop it here, okay.
For 200 years, the Supreme Court has ruled
that a green card holder has the same
rights as an American citizen.
What a load of nonsense.
Luke (34:49):
Yeah, where's he getting that?
Lara (34:50):
he's making it up.
He's literally making it up.
First of all, did you hear that he referred
there to a, a green card holder citizen?
Yeah, yeah, okay, no, no such thing, no
such thing.
So the man is conflating the rights, uh, of
a citizen with that of a naturalized
citizen and a green card holder.
(35:11):
He's putting all those things together
right, and naturalized citizen has the same
rights as an american citizen.
A green card holder is a visa.
You're a visa holder.
You know, I I got uh death threats once and
I called the fbi more than that okay one of
the times I got death threats when I
arrived.
I arrived in the us.
I was living in iraq at the time I arrived
in the US.
(35:31):
I was living in Iraq at the time.
I arrived in the US for work and I called
the FBI and one of the things that they
said to me when they called me back was we
verified.
You know, this threat is coming from this
blah, blah blah.
However, we can't help you Because why
You're not a US citizen?
You know, I was a green card holder.
I was on a visa.
I was on a visa then, so they were limited
(35:53):
in terms of the things that they could do.
There are limits to your visa.
The reality is that no government in the
world is obliged to give you a visa.
They can pick and choose and they can deny
you a visa based on anything they want.
You can object and you can try to fight it,
but they still have that right.
(36:17):
So here he is basically making accusations
about the US president and the current
administration, stating things that are not
true, fear-mongering, telling all those
people there you're all naturalized
citizens.
They're coming for you next.
Luke (36:28):
Right.
Lara (36:29):
Right.
Luke (36:30):
It's wild.
Keith, I want to hear your opinion on this.
Lara (36:36):
Let's see what Keith has to say.
He's been quiet today.
Keith (36:39):
Howdy.
Well, I think that how do you fight?
This is the question, like, how do you go
about?
You know, sort of um, engage in this, in
sort of batting back?
I guess the the in the culture war, but I
(37:01):
think the the biggest way is we have to, as,
as americans and as patriots, we, we have
to um, assert our, our own culture with
pride and we have to defend it culturally.
We have to, we have to teach our kids it
starts in the home.
We have to, you know, we have to take
(37:22):
control of our schools on the local level.
Um, that's how we, that's the big I would
say, that's the, it's the number one thing
we can do is we have to keep the hearts and
minds, uh, of our, of, you know, of our
children and uh, in our communities.
Lara (37:41):
Well, that's the whole point of inserting
15, 16, 17, 18 million illegal immigrants
in a very short space of time.
Right, it's because they don't understand
what it means to be American.
They don't share that love of Americana,
american history.
They don't know what it means, what the
culture of America is really about.
And the question then becomes how many of
(38:04):
them want to, how many of them really want
that?
Do you want to continue to follow your
cultural practices?
And, by the way, what is the law of the
land inside your Islamic enclave?
Because there's been, you know they'll say
that anything that you say about this
online is completely wrong and it's a lie.
This cleric is out there saying he's got
(38:25):
the backing of the mayor of Plano and the
mayor of Richardson and the mayor of
another county there you know another town
there and that the police chief is there
and they're all kissing the ring right.
They're all bending over themselves to show
oh, we welcome you in our community and
we've got your back and we're going to look
after you.
Don't you worry.
You know anyone says anything about you.
Come to us, you come to us, I don't.
(38:56):
There is, it's very obvious listening if
you look a little bit deeper and you listen
to what this cleric, who's the face of this,
has said in the past.
I mean he believes in the supremacy of
Sharia law.
Luke (39:08):
There you go yeah.
Lara (39:09):
Right and that Sharia law is God's law and
it's above all other laws.
Luke (39:13):
Will you get an overview of Sharia law?
For I mean that's not Constitution, I mean
it's not following any bit of the
Constitution, it doesn't align with
anything.
Lara (39:20):
Well, he believes that women should only do
tasks that their husbands permit them to do.
He said that in previous speeches.
I mean, there's a lot, Some of it is
political and some of it is cultural and
some of it is ideological and religion and
faith-based, but it's extraordinary to me
that this is happening in Texas and you
(39:43):
don't hear about it.
Nobody wants to talk about it.
It's not just happening here, though.
If you look at Patterson, New Jersey,
there's a similar takeover there, and when
you look a little further afield, I
remember a few years ago I mean, the Paris
attacks came out of an Islamic suburb of
Brussels which was pretty much a no-go area.
(40:05):
I knew a Romani, a gypsy guy who was a beat
cop in that district, and the things that
he described were absolutely unbelievable
of Brussels, where there were only Islamic
candidates running for office and they were
running on a platform of Sharia law and of
separating public spaces for men and women,
(40:27):
you know, and so on and so on.
I mean they're advocating for things that
are culturally, ideologically, completely
at odds with Western culture and values.
So, yes, okay, Governor Abbott is going
after them for operating a funeral home
without a license and Ken Paxton is taking
action to really the beginning, but this is
(40:50):
after it's already built.
Luke (40:53):
Where have they been?
It's like okay, the stadium is built,
they're ready to play ball.
Why weren't you there at the groundbreaking
of it all?
Lara (41:03):
Well, because they hide behind the
Constitution and the First Amendment right
and behind these attacks in the media that
say if you question anything like this,
then somehow you're a bad person and
they're allowed to fight for their culture
and for their ideology, but you're not
allowed to fight for yours.
When you do it, you're a white supremacist.
Luke (41:23):
Right.
Lara (41:23):
And nationalism has become so demonized.
So you know, there's another example here.
I mean, you look at Europe.
Yes, I mean, there are these rape gangs in
Sweden and in the Nordic countries and in
Germany.
Years ago you know, this is being a former
German town it has some German connections,
(41:44):
and I remember one of the mothers of one of
my kids, her aunt, worked at a Hilton hotel
and on New Year's Eve, every New Year's Eve,
all of the women who worked for Hilton had
to stay at the hotel and were not allowed
to travel because of these Islamic migrant
rape gangs that would just, you know, carry
(42:07):
out a reign of terror on the streets at
night on New Year's Eve.
It started out then.
Now you have the UK talking about grooming
gangs.
These are not grooming gangs, these are
Islamic rape gangs that have been operating
in the UK for years.
I mean, yeah, texas has allowed this to be
built right under their noses, but over
(42:28):
there they're actually allowing their own
children to be raped and sometimes, and
brutally, brutally, physically damaged, and
they're silent about it.
They don't, even now, when they're talking
about it, they don't even call it what it
is.
And then you know, on top of all of that,
what else do you have happening in Europe?
(42:50):
You've had attacks for years in France, in
the south of France and Toulouse and other
places, attacks against Jewish people that
nobody wants to talk about, nobody wants to
say anything.
I know a Catholic priest who told me he
will never wear his priest collar on the
streets of Paris anymore because he will be
attacked.
Wow, yes.
(43:10):
And then you remember a few years ago when
Fox News was absolutely savaged.
It was during the Trump administration the
first time around.
They were savage for reporting that there
were these areas of Paris, the banlieue,
where there were sort of no-go Islamic
areas, and everybody said it was a lie and
most of the media was mocking Fox for that.
Completely true.
(43:32):
I mean Paris.
The city of Paris is surrounded by what the
French call banlieue, which are their
suburbs.
I tried to go into one of the banlieues a
couple of years ago and with a very brave
person who spent a lot of time in the
Islamic world, he absolutely refused to
take me because he said we will be killed.
A couple of days before they had just
killed two French policemen that had gone
(43:53):
in there.
These areas are almost entirely ungoverned
and they are a law unto themselves and
we're still lying about it in the media and
treating people who talk about it as if
they're evil somehow.
Luke (44:08):
So what is your opinion of that?
That's because the globalists run our media
and they want this.
They want your identity, your sovereign
identity, to disappear and they want it
just to be a melting pot of chaos.
I mean, what's your view?
Lara (44:22):
I think that's pretty spot on yeah I mean
it's pretty, it's obvious at this point.
What does no borders mean?
Means a war on sovereignty, right, they
don't want nations, yeah, and and the
strongest care about your sovereignty.
Luke (44:34):
I mean it's, it's now we're.
I mean that's the liberal worldview.
Is you welcome everybody and you?
You know this is open borders and culture
needs to evolve and change.
Lara (44:43):
Well, the liberal, well, so the progressive,
progressive worldview Is that if you build
a city like that and it's a thousand homes
and all of it is Muslim, then it's diverse
Right, but if all of those people were
white or Christian, then it would be a
symbol of Nazism, fascism and racism.
(45:04):
Hypocrisy.
Luke (45:05):
Yeah.
Lara (45:06):
Victor Davis Hanson is a great, great
professor of classical studies and a great
voice.
He's written many books.
He's wonderful, I mean.
He lives in the town of Fresno, where he
was born, where his grand, his parents were
born, his grandparents, you know.
They've been there for generations, same
house, same house even.
(45:26):
And victor was just.
He was just laughing, saying to me you know,
when I grew up, it was sort of 90 white
here.
It's now something like I don't know 90, 95
hispanic.
So when he was growing up, it was was not
considered diverse.
Now that most of the white people have been
driven out and it's mostly Hispanic now,
it's diverse.
It's like, come on, come on.
(45:48):
I mean and it's weird for me even to be
having this conversation, because I'm
definitely a person who I've always
embraced other cultures- and religions.
I see all people as equal.
For me, they're all equal.
But I'll tell you where it ends for me, I
don't want to wear a hijab.
No, I don't want my children to wear a
(46:09):
hijab, I don't want my daughters to.
Not only that, you know, when you, you know
you have a lot of people will say, all the
time well, you know, it's not true that
women are not treated well in the Quran.
You know Muhammad's wife was, you know, a
woman who had her own business, and you
know she worked.
They give you all these arguments.
All of that is propaganda, it's
(46:29):
anti-Islamic, it's whatever.
And my answer to them is this Great, I
understand.
Islam is misunderstood, it's been
misrepresented.
You point to a country like Saudi Arabia,
or you point to Afghanistan and say, oh, no,
no, no, no.
This is not real Islam, this has been
distorted.
So I say okay.
So which country can you point to where
(46:52):
it's been properly implemented?
They can't?
Okay, so that's a lose, okay.
So then tell me this.
Then I have two daughters.
Pick a country where they can have a better
life and they can have the same rights that
they have in this country or any country in
(47:13):
the West.
Find me the Islamic country where they can
have that Guess what?
It also doesn't exist.
So does that mean?
Luke (47:23):
that.
Lara (47:23):
I'm anti-islam absolutely not um 100 false.
But the reality is that I want to protect
the culture and the values and the rights
that we have in our culture and society,
and I don't want to be demonized for that.
And I don't think I should be, you
shouldn't.
Luke (47:44):
And I think about.
I traveled the first time to Islam country,
to Dubai, and I saw firsthand I was doing a
film project over there and there was a
sheik sheik, sheik, Sheik Sheik.
He would drive in his Lamborghini and a
whole harem would follow in a Mercedes
Sprinter van, totally in their in their
(48:06):
covered gowns.
I mean, it was just to imagine that, you
know, happening here in Texas, I mean, and
not being loud about standing up against
you know, or just standing for our culture,
Right.
Lara (48:18):
Yeah.
Luke (48:19):
I mean that's we need, it we're, we're
already, we have pride in our state, but,
like I think we're seeing, we've already
seen not taking a stand and to me it you
know it's, it's okay to, it's not just okay,
it's we need to stand up for our, our
belief system, our culture, what we've
built here, and not just because of cancel
(48:39):
culture, be silent right we're going to
stay on this.
Lara (48:43):
We're going to stay on this and we're going
to continue to follow it.
And you know, whatever people want to do in
their own countries, I mean, you can like
it, you cannot like, it's their business,
not yours, right?
It's not my business.
I'm not going to tell you how to live in
saudi arabia or iran or anywhere else.
I'm not going to say to you I, I, I think's
great, I'm not going to lie, but I'm going
to look for things in the culture that I
like and that can be celebrated, and I'm
(49:05):
going to be equally as open and honest
about the things I don't.
Okay, so switching gears completely.
You missed most of it today.
Luke, you're going to be sorry.
We have a great new episode coming out the
Going Rogue.
We went rogue this time with Ross Kennedy
(49:27):
on supply chains, global supply chains and
China, and this proposed new action that
the Trump administration is looking at
actually was investigated by the Biden
administration and the Trump people took
this on when they came in, and it has the
potential to shut down the largest
(49:48):
intelligence collection operation in
history for the world of global trade and
shipping through.
Because?
Why?
Because the Chinese use a system on all
their ships which link right back into the
security state, and the US is not having
(50:09):
any of it anymore.
They're focusing on the.
They're going to try to pass this off as
another tariff issue.
It's not about tariffs and this is actually
a really important episode and it affects
all of us and it's it affects, you know,
the supply of food, everything that you can
imagine.
I think it really came home to us during
covet when we saw that you know the
(50:29):
breakdown.
Yeah, china could stop shipping our
medicine anytime they want it.
I mean, who thought that was a good idea?
Okay, so for that and more, don't miss this
week's episode of going rogue with Laura
Logan, and if you want to share, like,
subscribe or support us, go to
lauralogancom.
Slash, give and, uh, we appreciate having
(50:54):
you with us.
This is a this is a cool journey.
We are uncovering some really interesting
things and we're happy to have you with us
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