Art & Ideology - #16 Heather Mac Donald

Joey speaks with Heather Mac Donald. We discuss the state of the fine arts, the need for classical training, modern art, the state of “wokeness,” the Democratic Party, the war in Gaza (this conversation took place before the cease-fire), Western sympathy for Hamas, race politics, antisemitism, other prejudicial attitudes on the populist right, Joey’s concerns about race realism, and other topics. Heather can be found on X @HMDatMI and her MI page.

Heather is the Thomas W. Smith Fellow at the Manhattan Institute, a contributing editor of City Journal, and a former lawyer. She holds a B.A. in English from Yale, an M.A. in English from Cambridge, and a J.D. from Stanford. She is the author of The War on Cops, When Race Trumps Merit, The Diversity Delusion, Are Cops Racist?, The Immigration Solution, and The Burden of Bad Ideas. Her work has been published in The Wall Street Journal, The Washington Post, The New York Times, Los Angeles Times, The New Republic, and The New Criterion.