In this episode, we’re joined by Dr. Sawsan Jaber, a global educator, equity strategist, and author of Pedagogies of Voice. Dr. Jaber’s work is rooted in her lived experience as the daughter of refugees and her profound belief that classrooms must be healing spaces that nurture student voice and radical love.
This conversation is an urgent exploration of how K-12 leaders can balance the adoption of AI with the non-negotiable mission of humanizing education, ensuring that new technology becomes a tool for liberation, not a weapon for assimilation.
Key Takeaways
The Pendulum of Power: Education constantly swings between standardization (which turns students into "invisible statistics") and human-centered reform. AI presents a moment to resist the swing and focus on qualitative, asset-based learning.
Teaching as a Lifeline: Core curriculum skills must be framed as "liberatory skills," like teaching a period as a tool to force a reader to sit in your words, giving students the power to advocate for themselves and their communities.
The Criticality Problem: Dr. Jaber cautions against the "dystopian thinking" of letting AI do the thinking. Leaders must prioritize teaching criticality and inquiry, ensuring students never sacrifice unique thought for easily generated output.
Trust is the Best AI Detector: The foundation for responsible AI use is built through trust-based relationships. Educators must co-create norms with students and model vulnerability, positioning themselves as fellow learners rather than simply gatekeepers.
The Antidote to Hate: Classrooms should be healing spaces that build radical love and mutual understanding. This mission is the most powerful antidote to the culture of fear and single-story narratives that plague society today.
Stuff You Should Know
If you've ever wanted to know about champagne, satanism, the Stonewall Uprising, chaos theory, LSD, El Nino, true crime and Rosa Parks, then look no further. Josh and Chuck have you covered.
Ruthie's Table 4
For more than 30 years The River Cafe in London, has been the home-from-home of artists, architects, designers, actors, collectors, writers, activists, and politicians. Michael Caine, Glenn Close, JJ Abrams, Steve McQueen, Victoria and David Beckham, and Lily Allen, are just some of the people who love to call The River Cafe home. On River Cafe Table 4, Rogers sits down with her customers—who have become friends—to talk about food memories. Table 4 explores how food impacts every aspect of our lives. “Foods is politics, food is cultural, food is how you express love, food is about your heritage, it defines who you and who you want to be,” says Rogers. Each week, Rogers invites her guest to reminisce about family suppers and first dates, what they cook, how they eat when performing, the restaurants they choose, and what food they seek when they need comfort. And to punctuate each episode of Table 4, guests such as Ralph Fiennes, Emily Blunt, and Alfonso Cuarón, read their favourite recipe from one of the best-selling River Cafe cookbooks. Table 4 itself, is situated near The River Cafe’s open kitchen, close to the bright pink wood-fired oven and next to the glossy yellow pass, where Ruthie oversees the restaurant. You are invited to take a seat at this intimate table and join the conversation. For more information, recipes, and ingredients, go to https://shoptherivercafe.co.uk/ Web: https://rivercafe.co.uk/ Instagram: www.instagram.com/therivercafelondon/ Facebook: https://en-gb.facebook.com/therivercafelondon/ For more podcasts from iHeartRadio, visit the iheartradio app, apple podcasts, or wherever you listen to your favorite shows. Learn more about your ad-choices at https://www.iheartpodcastnetwork.com
Dateline NBC
Current and classic episodes, featuring compelling true-crime mysteries, powerful documentaries and in-depth investigations. Follow now to get the latest episodes of Dateline NBC completely free, or subscribe to Dateline Premium for ad-free listening and exclusive bonus content: DatelinePremium.com