April 8, 2024 • 29 mins
Welcome to a specially curated episode of the Ladies Who Leap Podcast hosted by Lisa Andria, your Transformation Life Coach.
We are thrilled to feature the extraordinary life story of our guest, Johanna Derbolowsky, a leading international speaker and author of the transformational book, 'The Transformation Promise.' As a respected life and business coach and a metaphysical teacher, Johanna's mission is to empower others to break free from their limiting patterns.
This episode delves into her fantastic journey in the metaphysical world and provides insights into her success secret. Explore her unique five-step program, 'The 5 W’s to Healing and Success', and her innovative approach to helping clients unlock their psychic abilities.
Listen to an engaging conversation centered around intuition, personal growth, and the power of transformative love. Learn how Johanna conquered her fear of public speaking to become a beacon of light in her field, impacting lives globally. Lisa and Johanna shed light on the importance of understanding one's inner vision and how our challenges can guide our growth. This episode extends an open invitation to all women ready to leap and step into their power.
Our guest shares her story of overcoming her fear of public speaking tied to a past life memory. She talks about a critical turning point when she attended a program called Speaking Circles that allowed her to connect with her audience more deeply and personally.
Her faith being the driving force behind her courageous leaps, Johanna inspires listeners to believe in their inner strength and intuition. In this enlightening and inspiring conversation, Joahanna leaves us with her favorite affirmation that turns setbacks into stepping stones: "Everything in life happens for one's benefit."
Join us in this riveting episode and unravel valuable insights into life, faith, courage, and transformation. Remember, "Leaping out of your comfort zone is where the magic happens."
Johanna Derbowlsky - Reach her at https://quantumheartfield.com/
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Hi, I'm Lisa Andria, Transformation Life Coach.
Welcome to the Ladies Who Leap podcast, where guests share their inspiring stories
of leaping out of their comfort zone with confidence and power and into a life
of purpose and fulfillment.
Let's listen to their life-changing stories so that we can all learn how to
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gain the courage to take a leap of faith into a life that we love,
so that we can all be Ladies Who Leap. Let's get started.
Hi, welcome to Ladies Who Leap podcast.
The guest today is Johanna Derbolowsky, international speaker and bestselling
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author of the book The Transformation Promise. Helps audiences and clients to
overcome their own limiting patterns in business and life to move forward with confidence.
Her five-step program, The 5 W's to Healing and Success, has empowered her clients
to see the bigger picture with clarity and make choices they are proud of.
She also helped professionals worldwide to be more effective using their own
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innate psychic abilities, from identifying hidden agendas to underlying issues not visible at first.
Ms. DeRolowski is the developer of the Quantum Heartfield Experience.
She is a life and business coach, recognized metaphysical teacher,
and has been on the forefront of healing and transformation. information.
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Based in Southern California, she speaks and teaches in the U.S.
And Europe and has a virtual office for private clients. Welcome, Johanna.
Well, I am delighted to be here. I'm so glad you're here.
We actually met through a mutual business coach, and there's a community of
coaches, right? That's how we met, I think? That's how we met.
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Yeah, yeah. So now we have a bunch of mutual coaching friends,
and it's just a great community, and I'm so glad we met.
In fact, we had a really nice lunch not too long ago and it was just a great conversation.
So I'm going to pretend like I don't know anything about you because I would
love to have your listeners hear all about your life and story.
So the one thing I was going to start with was how did you come into the metaphysical teaching work?
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Well, I was born into the metaphysical world and the teaching came from,
I had a wonderful teacher on psychic psychic development and how to be psychic and.
He moved away and left me his workshops and classes. So that's how I started teaching that.
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So you didn't have to make like a leap into doing it. It was something that
was some, you started with it in your life right from the very beginning.
Yeah. I remember you had spoken about even your family was very much into this
work. Am I correct in that? Remembering that right?
Yeah. I mean, they were definitely, they were also in the medical field.
So they were in one foot in both worlds. but also very spiritual.
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And because that was, we're talking about what generation, that was like in the 50s and 60s?
Well, I was born in the 60s, so 60s, 70s, but they were always in that field.
Yeah, that's really something, people that were ahead of the world,
really, in a sense, I would think.
There weren't a lot of people that were into metaphysics and all this type of work way back then.
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It was probably a very small community. So that was really neat that you had
that exposure at a young age to that type of work.
So, I mean, I do feel your work is fascinating, especially the part about helping
professionals use their own innate psychic abilities.
Does that mean that everyone has psychic abilities? And how do you tap into that?
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Everybody has psychic abilities. I mean, that's part of who we are.
We all have intuition, but we are really good at talking ourselves out of it.
So we've been with science sort of coming up and people not really wanting to be seen.
That's another fact. So we try to close that part off for ourselves.
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And how do you help them tap into it?
You just have to learn to trust your inner knowing again.
And you have to trust your inner seeing again. end and that takes a little bit
of practice depending on how how far away you've moved from it but i think altogether
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it is becoming really important now because we are bombarded with.
Kind of fake information all the time we don't we don't look natural anymore
because we do all sorts of things to hide it at least in los angeles when you
walk around you know People don't have that many facial expressions anymore,
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or politicians don't have that either.
So we can't rely on seeing who they are by their outer expressions.
So if we want to be a little bit faster in getting to know them,
we have to rely on our inner seeing and seeing soul to soul,
so to speak, or spirit to spirit. Right.
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Interesting. So I know we talk a lot, I've talked a lot about intuition.
And does intuition come into this process?
I mean, as you were talking, and I'm kind of understanding what you're saying,
but is that part of that? Yeah.
Intuition is the same thing. That's the inner knowing of something.
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So you have your intuitions, your inner knowing, then you have your clairvoyance,
which is seeing things that are not obvious to everybody.
And that is what we see and interpret is something we learn as babies.
So people that are born without eyesight
and then learn to see
through surgery later have their eyesight restored they can't
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make sense of anything they see they have to learn to see it's actually recommended
to put them in a preschool type environment to learn with bright colors and
easy shapes so we learn what we see and we learn to see just the outer stuff
that's That's what we're taught.
So we have to relearn to see the other things that are around that are more
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subtle, like people's auras and energies and things like that.
Not that they are not there.
Yeah. So when you're working with people, you're actually kind of,
I guess, opening their eyes in a sense.
And I don't necessarily mean eyes from, you know, just seeing.
It's more about the whole person and opening their mind in a sense.
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Yeah, you know, most of us have heard the story when the Columbus ships arrived in South America.
Only the charmin could see the ships. The other people just saw movement on
the water, but they had no concept of a ship, so their brain did not register ship.
Oh my gosh, that's interesting. No, I'd never heard that story.
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So they didn't know that there were people actually coming to take over their lives and worlds.
And that's the same thing. Our brain doesn't process what it doesn't understand
or know. So we dismiss that.
It's a learning process again. Yeah, I do know that people that have not necessarily
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seen a lot of other places, like if they just live in their one town and they don't travel,
they don't go to Europe, they don't do that, that they do have a limited view of the world.
So perhaps that's along the same lines, too.
Does that make sense or am I going off?
That makes sense, but that's more of your knowledge base. I mean,
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basically, the brain is like a computer.
It can spit out what you put in.
Oh, that's great. But it doesn't process something new right away,
or it doesn't understand how to do that. It has to figure out how to do that.
So while I need to read your book, I have not done that yet.
I will admit that. The Transformation Promise.
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You work with clients and audiences on overcoming limiting beliefs.
You have a five-step program, right? The five W's. Is that something,
I mean, that is something I would love to hear more about. And I think our audience would too.
Well, I called it the five W's of healing and transformation because I come
from a writing background.
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So the five W's of writing is something we usually remember from high school,
high school English class.
But it's basically getting that clarity of the whole story.
So our life is stories. stories we are made
up of stories that we invent happen to us we tell ourselves and by the way all
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of them are love stories because everything in our life is about love i mean
whether we seek to overpower people it is a lack of love in our life but we're
always wanting seeking or.
Losing love or not having enough or not getting the love we we think we deserve
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so it's all oh, basically everything is about love. I just thought I'd throw that in here.
Oh, wow. Yeah, and now when I think about it, I mean, people talk about abandonment.
People talk about, you know, in childhood, they're not getting enough attention.
Even narcissistic qualities, they're seeking that love and they're not getting
it. So it is all about love. I never thought of that.
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Everybody's story is a love story. So the thing is, if you want to heal or change
something, things to get clarity about ourselves.
Now, the little tricky part is that we can't see ourselves objectively.
It's just like the eye cannot see itself. I mean, the physical eye can't see itself.
So we cannot see ourselves objectively, which is where somebody like you comes
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in, like a coach that can help see you from the outside.
And add that little bit of objectivity to the very subjective life we're living.
So in those five steps, it's the what is the situation?
So what is the situation you're facing right now? So make people look at that and write that down.
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And then also who is affected by it? Because it's never just one person.
So if it's something happening in your business, it's everybody that works in
that business is affected by whatever that issue is that you picked.
And if it's, you know, your physical issues, then people that need to take care
of you are affected by it.
So there's a whole web always attached to everything that is happening because
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we can't function alone without anything in this world.
Wow. And then once you have all the players sort of figured out that are attached
to that, the next step is why does this happen?
Because, so it could be, you know, you get sick because you ran yourself ragged
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or you are just a workaholic and you're not paying attention to your body or
you pay too much attention to have fun and your company is falling apart.
So it's just a question to ask yourself, why is this happening right now?
And you don't always know the answer. So the answer to that may just be because
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the universe just threw you a little excitement into your life.
It could be a lesson to be learned. Eventually you'll figure it out, right?
Yeah, we're here to grow and we're here to learn.
So these things do also just appear, but then that is why is it happening right now?
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And that brings me to the next thing is where is it pointing me?
And that's the biggest question, because if you have a traumatic event that
brings you to your knees, then it is pointing you to getting on your knees,
because that's what we all do.
We have this like, oh my God, please, if you just help me through this, I'll be a better person.
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And we try to bargain with God. Even if before we did not know there was a God at that moment,
he comes up and we are ready to bargain and deal ourselves out of the misery
that we're accounting or the challenge, or we want help with it.
But every challenge is pointing into a direction. It's pointing into doing something different.
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It's pointing towards something you haven't seen.
So it's always pointing to an internal growth process.
Whether you are in business or in your personal life, it's all personal.
If it's your your business, it's personal. If it's your life, it's personal.
If you can attach that your or mine, if it's mine, it's personal.
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So you speak and teach all over the world.
I know, in fact, I just did a little post recently about this,
that confidence is not innate.
So can you talk about how you honed in on your public speaking skills to be
confident, to be able to do that. I mean, all over the world.
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I was probably the most afraid of public speaking person that you have ever met.
I would not ever say anything in school or so. I was terrified of it.
As a matter of fact, would have, they say that, you know, people are not as
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afraid of dying as they are of public speaking. I think I was the perfect example for that.
Because dying to me seemed like very easy compared to saying anything in front of anybody.
Well, we want to know, where did you get the courage to do it? How did that happen?
Been well i i tried
to attack things that i'm not good at so i
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took five college public speaking classes none
of which helped me then i did
series of past life regression which is also
something i like to do for things with fears i mean
i'm also a hypnotherapist the past
life regression made a big difference a huge difference
because i i went through a past life
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where i experienced myself being the
town's attraction by being
executed on the marketplace so you
know i you get guided into the past life and
here i am the executioner is there which is
like good thing i'm ready everybody
standing there and the whole town comes
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out and there it's it's their entertainment i'm
their entertainment my misery is everybody's entertainment
wow and i watched
them laughing and enjoying what was about to happen and at that moment i don't
can't say exactly what happened but at that moment i realized that you know
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it doesn't really matter who you're up there you're their entertainment.
And right now it's not my misery anymore.
It's entertaining. And at the end of that session, I was okay with speaking.
Oh, wow. It was, you know, just like that. It was like, oh, okay.
I'm not being executed. Can't do that bad.
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Yeah. You're talking about, you know, people feared speaking more than death.
You literally literally had them linked together in a past life.
And once you found that, you were able to release it then.
And then after that, I discovered a wonderful program. It's called Speaking Circles.
It's Ali Glickstein is the person that facilitates that. And he's still around.
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I don't think he does any more live events, but I went to a live weekend workshop.
My friend dragged me to it. He said, okay, we both don't like public speaking.
We got to get over this. I found this thing. so we
went there and it was really amazing because
when you take your speaking class they teach
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you like imagine those people in a derogatory
way way like naked or something naked
or being ugly or whatever and I
didn't like that that never resonated with me because I
don't want to talk to people that are not wanting to
hear me you know that are sitting there in their the underwear that's
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not my idea of a good time and I
didn't like when they teach you to look over their
head so like you're speaking to the end of the
room because then everybody because there's no connection there
so in Lee's workshop he connects
you with the audience one person at a time
and they're really beautiful he's an amazing guy and
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it's a really beautiful way and I took took that class
and at the end of the weekend I went home and I was like okay he videotapes
you and I was like I put that videotape away in the darkest corner of my closet
and my friend goes like have you seen the video yet no I said okay I'm coming
over we're watching it together.
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And I said no no no no no no not happening I want to watch it I promise and
he said okay okay, you have two days and then I come over.
So I dug the video out when nobody was around.
And the really funny thing was that people, whenever I spoke anywhere,
people were laughing. They were laughing.
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And it irritated me because I was not a comedian and I wasn't talking about anything funny.
I didn't understand why everybody was always laughing about me,
which tied back to the entertainment of the executioner. And that happened too
when we videotaped at that class.
So when I watched the video, I got out of my subjective self and I got to see
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myself objectively. Objectively, and I wasn't talking about anything funny,
but it was actually funny.
I mean, even I was laughing at what I was saying and how I was presenting that.
And I said, oh, they don't really mean like harm or so to me when they laugh.
It's just from enjoyment then. It was literally an enjoyment. Oh, wow.
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So that brought that past life kind of full circle. And I've been speaking ever since.
That's fantastic. Fantastic. Do you have any stories about or any about any
experience during one of those events that stands out to you?
During one of my events or events? Yeah. Was there anything either feedback
afterwards or just anything?
I mean, you've done it quite a bit and around the world. Was there anything
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that just an experience that kind of stood out to you?
Well, I mean, the most touching experience was speaking in Germany.
And this was a class about dying and preparing for death, actually.
And it was a very old crowd.
And it was also about whether or not it's ethical to get help dying.
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And so we had all those topics. It was actually a workshop and speaking.
But at the end, one of the ladies came up to me and she said,
that I'm glad I lived this long because I wouldn't have wanted to miss this one.
And that was incredible. I was very touched by that. And she was crying when
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she said that. Oh, my gosh.
Yeah. That is definitely memorable. Thanks for sharing. Wow.
So you're an entrepreneur. You're an author.
All of that takes courage, right? And a real good belief in yourself.
Were you always confident about your abilities? And we won't talk about speaking
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because we just found out that whole story, but just your abilities to write
and coach people and have your own business.
Was that something that you were always confident about or was that a journey?
What kind of journey was that?
I don't think I'm courageous at all.
So I have no courage. I'm actually full of everything else but courage.
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But I like your title, Ladies Who Leap, because I have no courage.
I just got to leap into it.
It's just like, okay, if we think about this, it's never going to happen.
Let's just do it and see what happens. So I'm like dive head first into the
cold water and then figure out if I know how to swim.
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Interesting. That's a different way of looking at it too.
But the fact that you even would take the first step, you do have courage,
Johanna, because if you didn't, you wouldn't even say, oh, I'm going to dive
into it. it wouldn't even be in your thought process.
It would paralyze you. So having confidence means that you know that you don't
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know everything and you know that there are going to be complications or obstacles,
but you move ahead in spite of that.
So you actually do have confidence. I think it's more faith.
I definitely have a faith that things will work out somehow.
And if they don't work out, then you get the next life to try it over again.
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So I do have faith and that somehow, you know, somehow something will transform
and happen because nothing stays the same. So everything is evolving.
But when I started having my first thought about, oh, can I really do this or so?
That's already the first step to the end. So I don't think I have courage.
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I have faith. I have a thought.
I jump on it. and sometimes it
turns into something and a lot of times you know I land on
the ground somewhere but it's the phase
that then you go okay let's wait for the next inspiration so did you write your
book first or did you start the coaching first what what how did that work I
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was teaching for years so I was just teaching workshops for years and one one
of my students actually said that, you know,
you should have a book, not just these handouts. I'd rather have a book to take home.
I'm like, okay, well, and I always write just for myself.
So I said, okay, no problem. I just put one together, just like a handout, you know. And I...
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Didn't do much about it. And then he called a few days later and he said,
I booked you a book signing at this bookstore in three months when you come
teach in my town. And I'm like, you did what?
I don't have a book. And he said, well, you said it was easy, so just do it.
And so that's how it happened. It ended up taking me longer than three months.
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It took me a year to put it together and I've rewritten it and just released the new edition.
But I did sit down and do it, but that's the same as jumping into it.
The thought of, oh, I'm going to write a book that didn't work.
That would have never worked for me.
So it's again, intuition, inspiration.
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Yeah. And then just go for it and don't think. Yeah.
And faith. Gosh, you got, you know, Those three things alone is something for
our listeners to really think about.
And you don't always hear the leap being those kind of three things,
especially the faith part.
Just going forward and having the faith that it's all going to work out.
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And if it doesn't, so what?
You'll learn from it. You'll try something else. Or you go into your next life and do it.
That's really leaving it completely open. What made you name this Women Who Leap?
Because I feel that truly exactly what you kind of said in a way,
leaping out of your comfort zone is where that magic happens,
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where you have really a lot of growth and where your manifestation of your own
abilities and your passions and your purpose come out. Yeah.
I mean, for me, it's just, it's either that or nothing.
Me doing nothing, I'd be a factory worker somewhere in a small town.
And there's nothing wrong with that either, but I would have never done anything
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if I wouldn't have done it without you.
Engaging my mind yeah and the fact that
you've shared you've taught you've written the books
has helped so many other people so thank goodness
that's the direction that you chose because that
has you have actually helped so many other people and you
wouldn't have been able to do that had you not just said okay i've
got the faith and i'm going to take that step yeah i mean i've
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always had the faith i actually had somebody in one of
my classes who grew up in communist china
a young lady and she didn't
understand the word faith and she wanted
me to explain what that is and I
couldn't I was like well I don't even know what that is
because I thought everybody was born with it and then it turned out that there
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were more people in the class that did not have much faith and I they helped
me explain it because to me that was just something everybody had Yeah.
I never questioned that.
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Even faith in themselves. Even if you don't have a faith or believe in a higher
being of some kind, just having the faith in yourself.
And that's just so important.
And that's kind of the beauty about transformation because we're constantly
transforming and changing.
Nothing is the same from one second to the next.
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So at least you can have the faith that everything is changing. So I feel really bad.
I go like, okay, well, well, this is going to change, may get worse,
and it may get better, but it's definitely not going to stay the same.
And I think that alone is worth having faith that things can improve.
Yeah, yeah. And then also, when you make changes, the person you are today is
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not the person that you were yesterday or a week ago or three months ago.
And so you have to have faith that the person and you're becoming is a good
thing and will lead to something better, right?
Yeah, and you can try different things out. I mean, life is pretty long,
and according to the Hindus, I think we get 8 million lifetimes,
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so we have a lot of time to get it right.
So I'd like to end this with asking my guest, what is your favorite quote or
mantra or positive affirmation that you'd like to share?
I think my favorite is, for me, is everything happens for your benefit.
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There is nothing that happens that's not beneficial. Nice. I like that.
It's very positive. I like that.
So would you like to share, and although I will put all this information in
the podcast itself, so you'll be seeing it on the bottom, but where can people get a hold of you?
I have a website, QuantumHeartField.com, which has all the information about
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everything on there and how to reach me.
That's probably the easiest way. Thank you.
Well, thank you, Johanna. It's been absolutely fascinating.
I learned more about your work and you today than even our lunch that we had earlier this month.
So I really appreciate that. And I hope and know that everybody who's listening
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has definitely gotten another nugget of information on how to have faith when
you're leaping into something,
a change or transformation in your life or something new that you want to go
to in order to be able to do it. to follow your passion and your purpose.
So thank you, Johanna, so much. It's been really lovely having you today.
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Well, thank you. It was really wonderful being here and I'm so grateful I met you. Me too, me too.
So now everybody that's listening has met Johanna, so you all can be grateful for that too.
Thank you so much for joining us and thank you everyone for listening.
Really appreciate it. Thank you.
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Hi, I'm Lisa Andria, Transformation Life Coach.
Welcome to the Ladies Who Leap podcast, where guests share their inspiring stories
of leaping out of their comfort zone with confidence and power and into a life
of purpose and fulfillment.
Let's listen to their life-changing stories so that we can all learn how to
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gain the courage to take a leap of faith into a life that we love,
so that we can all be Ladies Who Leap. Let's get started.
Hi, welcome to Ladies Who Leap podcast.
The guest today is Johanna Derbolowsky, international speaker and bestselling
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author of the book The Transformation Promise. Helps audiences and clients to
overcome their own limiting patterns in business and life to move forward with confidence.
Her five-step program, The 5 W's to Healing and Success, has empowered her clients
to see the bigger picture with clarity and make choices they are proud of.
She also helped professionals worldwide to be more effective using their own
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innate psychic abilities, from identifying hidden agendas to underlying issues not visible at first.
Ms. DeRolowski is the developer of the Quantum Heartfield Experience.
She is a life and business coach, recognized metaphysical teacher,
and has been on the forefront of healing and transformation. information.
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Based in Southern California, she speaks and teaches in the U.S.
And Europe and has a virtual office for private clients. Welcome, Johanna.
Well, I am delighted to be here. I'm so glad you're here.
We actually met through a mutual business coach, and there's a community of
coaches, right? That's how we met, I think? That's how we met.
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Yeah, yeah. So now we have a bunch of mutual coaching friends,
and it's just a great community, and I'm so glad we met.
In fact, we had a really nice lunch not too long ago and it was just a great conversation.
So I'm going to pretend like I don't know anything about you because I would
love to have your listeners hear all about your life and story.
So the one thing I was going to start with was how did you come into the metaphysical teaching work?
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Well, I was born into the metaphysical world and the teaching came from,
I had a wonderful teacher on psychic psychic development and how to be psychic and.
He moved away and left me his workshops and classes. So that's how I started teaching that.
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So you didn't have to make like a leap into doing it. It was something that
was some, you started with it in your life right from the very beginning.
Yeah. I remember you had spoken about even your family was very much into this
work. Am I correct in that? Remembering that right?
Yeah. I mean, they were definitely, they were also in the medical field.
So they were in one foot in both worlds. but also very spiritual.
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And because that was, we're talking about what generation, that was like in the 50s and 60s?
Well, I was born in the 60s, so 60s, 70s, but they were always in that field.
Yeah, that's really something, people that were ahead of the world,
really, in a sense, I would think.
There weren't a lot of people that were into metaphysics and all this type of work way back then.
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It was probably a very small community. So that was really neat that you had
that exposure at a young age to that type of work.
So, I mean, I do feel your work is fascinating, especially the part about helping
professionals use their own innate psychic abilities.
Does that mean that everyone has psychic abilities? And how do you tap into that?
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Everybody has psychic abilities. I mean, that's part of who we are.
We all have intuition, but we are really good at talking ourselves out of it.
So we've been with science sort of coming up and people not really wanting to be seen.
That's another fact. So we try to close that part off for ourselves.
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And how do you help them tap into it?
You just have to learn to trust your inner knowing again.
And you have to trust your inner seeing again. end and that takes a little bit
of practice depending on how how far away you've moved from it but i think altogether
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it is becoming really important now because we are bombarded with.
Kind of fake information all the time we don't we don't look natural anymore
because we do all sorts of things to hide it at least in los angeles when you
walk around you know People don't have that many facial expressions anymore,
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or politicians don't have that either.
So we can't rely on seeing who they are by their outer expressions.
So if we want to be a little bit faster in getting to know them,
we have to rely on our inner seeing and seeing soul to soul,
so to speak, or spirit to spirit. Right.
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Interesting. So I know we talk a lot, I've talked a lot about intuition.
And does intuition come into this process?
I mean, as you were talking, and I'm kind of understanding what you're saying,
but is that part of that? Yeah.
Intuition is the same thing. That's the inner knowing of something.
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So you have your intuitions, your inner knowing, then you have your clairvoyance,
which is seeing things that are not obvious to everybody.
And that is what we see and interpret is something we learn as babies.
So people that are born without eyesight
and then learn to see
through surgery later have their eyesight restored they can't
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make sense of anything they see they have to learn to see it's actually recommended
to put them in a preschool type environment to learn with bright colors and
easy shapes so we learn what we see and we learn to see just the outer stuff
that's That's what we're taught.
So we have to relearn to see the other things that are around that are more
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subtle, like people's auras and energies and things like that.
Not that they are not there.
Yeah. So when you're working with people, you're actually kind of,
I guess, opening their eyes in a sense.
And I don't necessarily mean eyes from, you know, just seeing.
It's more about the whole person and opening their mind in a sense.
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Yeah, you know, most of us have heard the story when the Columbus ships arrived in South America.
Only the charmin could see the ships. The other people just saw movement on
the water, but they had no concept of a ship, so their brain did not register ship.
Oh my gosh, that's interesting. No, I'd never heard that story.
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So they didn't know that there were people actually coming to take over their lives and worlds.
And that's the same thing. Our brain doesn't process what it doesn't understand
or know. So we dismiss that.
It's a learning process again. Yeah, I do know that people that have not necessarily
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seen a lot of other places, like if they just live in their one town and they don't travel,
they don't go to Europe, they don't do that, that they do have a limited view of the world.
So perhaps that's along the same lines, too.
Does that make sense or am I going off?
That makes sense, but that's more of your knowledge base. I mean,
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basically, the brain is like a computer.
It can spit out what you put in.
Oh, that's great. But it doesn't process something new right away,
or it doesn't understand how to do that. It has to figure out how to do that.
So while I need to read your book, I have not done that yet.
I will admit that. The Transformation Promise.
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You work with clients and audiences on overcoming limiting beliefs.
You have a five-step program, right? The five W's. Is that something,
I mean, that is something I would love to hear more about. And I think our audience would too.
Well, I called it the five W's of healing and transformation because I come
from a writing background.
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So the five W's of writing is something we usually remember from high school,
high school English class.
But it's basically getting that clarity of the whole story.
So our life is stories. stories we are made
up of stories that we invent happen to us we tell ourselves and by the way all
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of them are love stories because everything in our life is about love i mean
whether we seek to overpower people it is a lack of love in our life but we're
always wanting seeking or.
Losing love or not having enough or not getting the love we we think we deserve
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so it's all oh, basically everything is about love. I just thought I'd throw that in here.
Oh, wow. Yeah, and now when I think about it, I mean, people talk about abandonment.
People talk about, you know, in childhood, they're not getting enough attention.
Even narcissistic qualities, they're seeking that love and they're not getting
it. So it is all about love. I never thought of that.
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Everybody's story is a love story. So the thing is, if you want to heal or change
something, things to get clarity about ourselves.
Now, the little tricky part is that we can't see ourselves objectively.
It's just like the eye cannot see itself. I mean, the physical eye can't see itself.
So we cannot see ourselves objectively, which is where somebody like you comes
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in, like a coach that can help see you from the outside.
And add that little bit of objectivity to the very subjective life we're living.
So in those five steps, it's the what is the situation?
So what is the situation you're facing right now? So make people look at that and write that down.
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And then also who is affected by it? Because it's never just one person.
So if it's something happening in your business, it's everybody that works in
that business is affected by whatever that issue is that you picked.
And if it's, you know, your physical issues, then people that need to take care
of you are affected by it.
So there's a whole web always attached to everything that is happening because
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we can't function alone without anything in this world.
Wow. And then once you have all the players sort of figured out that are attached
to that, the next step is why does this happen?
Because, so it could be, you know, you get sick because you ran yourself ragged
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or you are just a workaholic and you're not paying attention to your body or
you pay too much attention to have fun and your company is falling apart.
So it's just a question to ask yourself, why is this happening right now?
And you don't always know the answer. So the answer to that may just be because
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the universe just threw you a little excitement into your life.
It could be a lesson to be learned. Eventually you'll figure it out, right?
Yeah, we're here to grow and we're here to learn.
So these things do also just appear, but then that is why is it happening right now?
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And that brings me to the next thing is where is it pointing me?
And that's the biggest question, because if you have a traumatic event that
brings you to your knees, then it is pointing you to getting on your knees,
because that's what we all do.
We have this like, oh my God, please, if you just help me through this, I'll be a better person.
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And we try to bargain with God. Even if before we did not know there was a God at that moment,
he comes up and we are ready to bargain and deal ourselves out of the misery
that we're accounting or the challenge, or we want help with it.
But every challenge is pointing into a direction. It's pointing into doing something different.
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It's pointing towards something you haven't seen.
So it's always pointing to an internal growth process.
Whether you are in business or in your personal life, it's all personal.
If it's your your business, it's personal. If it's your life, it's personal.
If you can attach that your or mine, if it's mine, it's personal.
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So you speak and teach all over the world.
I know, in fact, I just did a little post recently about this,
that confidence is not innate.
So can you talk about how you honed in on your public speaking skills to be
confident, to be able to do that. I mean, all over the world.
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I was probably the most afraid of public speaking person that you have ever met.
I would not ever say anything in school or so. I was terrified of it.
As a matter of fact, would have, they say that, you know, people are not as
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afraid of dying as they are of public speaking. I think I was the perfect example for that.
Because dying to me seemed like very easy compared to saying anything in front of anybody.
Well, we want to know, where did you get the courage to do it? How did that happen?
Been well i i tried
to attack things that i'm not good at so i
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took five college public speaking classes none
of which helped me then i did
series of past life regression which is also
something i like to do for things with fears i mean
i'm also a hypnotherapist the past
life regression made a big difference a huge difference
because i i went through a past life
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where i experienced myself being the
town's attraction by being
executed on the marketplace so you
know i you get guided into the past life and
here i am the executioner is there which is
like good thing i'm ready everybody
standing there and the whole town comes
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out and there it's it's their entertainment i'm
their entertainment my misery is everybody's entertainment
wow and i watched
them laughing and enjoying what was about to happen and at that moment i don't
can't say exactly what happened but at that moment i realized that you know
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it doesn't really matter who you're up there you're their entertainment.
And right now it's not my misery anymore.
It's entertaining. And at the end of that session, I was okay with speaking.
Oh, wow. It was, you know, just like that. It was like, oh, okay.
I'm not being executed. Can't do that bad.
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Yeah. You're talking about, you know, people feared speaking more than death.
You literally literally had them linked together in a past life.
And once you found that, you were able to release it then.
And then after that, I discovered a wonderful program. It's called Speaking Circles.
It's Ali Glickstein is the person that facilitates that. And he's still around.
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I don't think he does any more live events, but I went to a live weekend workshop.
My friend dragged me to it. He said, okay, we both don't like public speaking.
We got to get over this. I found this thing. so we
went there and it was really amazing because
when you take your speaking class they teach
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you like imagine those people in a derogatory
way way like naked or something naked
or being ugly or whatever and I
didn't like that that never resonated with me because I
don't want to talk to people that are not wanting to
hear me you know that are sitting there in their the underwear that's
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not my idea of a good time and I
didn't like when they teach you to look over their
head so like you're speaking to the end of the
room because then everybody because there's no connection there
so in Lee's workshop he connects
you with the audience one person at a time
and they're really beautiful he's an amazing guy and
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it's a really beautiful way and I took took that class
and at the end of the weekend I went home and I was like okay he videotapes
you and I was like I put that videotape away in the darkest corner of my closet
and my friend goes like have you seen the video yet no I said okay I'm coming
over we're watching it together.
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And I said no no no no no no not happening I want to watch it I promise and
he said okay okay, you have two days and then I come over.
So I dug the video out when nobody was around.
And the really funny thing was that people, whenever I spoke anywhere,
people were laughing. They were laughing.
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And it irritated me because I was not a comedian and I wasn't talking about anything funny.
I didn't understand why everybody was always laughing about me,
which tied back to the entertainment of the executioner. And that happened too
when we videotaped at that class.
So when I watched the video, I got out of my subjective self and I got to see
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myself objectively. Objectively, and I wasn't talking about anything funny,
but it was actually funny.
I mean, even I was laughing at what I was saying and how I was presenting that.
And I said, oh, they don't really mean like harm or so to me when they laugh.
It's just from enjoyment then. It was literally an enjoyment. Oh, wow.
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So that brought that past life kind of full circle. And I've been speaking ever since.
That's fantastic. Fantastic. Do you have any stories about or any about any
experience during one of those events that stands out to you?
During one of my events or events? Yeah. Was there anything either feedback
afterwards or just anything?
I mean, you've done it quite a bit and around the world. Was there anything
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that just an experience that kind of stood out to you?
Well, I mean, the most touching experience was speaking in Germany.
And this was a class about dying and preparing for death, actually.
And it was a very old crowd.
And it was also about whether or not it's ethical to get help dying.
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And so we had all those topics. It was actually a workshop and speaking.
But at the end, one of the ladies came up to me and she said,
that I'm glad I lived this long because I wouldn't have wanted to miss this one.
And that was incredible. I was very touched by that. And she was crying when
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she said that. Oh, my gosh.
Yeah. That is definitely memorable. Thanks for sharing. Wow.
So you're an entrepreneur. You're an author.
All of that takes courage, right? And a real good belief in yourself.
Were you always confident about your abilities? And we won't talk about speaking
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because we just found out that whole story, but just your abilities to write
and coach people and have your own business.
Was that something that you were always confident about or was that a journey?
What kind of journey was that?
I don't think I'm courageous at all.
So I have no courage. I'm actually full of everything else but courage.
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But I like your title, Ladies Who Leap, because I have no courage.
I just got to leap into it.
It's just like, okay, if we think about this, it's never going to happen.
Let's just do it and see what happens. So I'm like dive head first into the
cold water and then figure out if I know how to swim.
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Interesting. That's a different way of looking at it too.
But the fact that you even would take the first step, you do have courage,
Johanna, because if you didn't, you wouldn't even say, oh, I'm going to dive
into it. it wouldn't even be in your thought process.
It would paralyze you. So having confidence means that you know that you don't
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know everything and you know that there are going to be complications or obstacles,
but you move ahead in spite of that.
So you actually do have confidence. I think it's more faith.
I definitely have a faith that things will work out somehow.
And if they don't work out, then you get the next life to try it over again.
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So I do have faith and that somehow, you know, somehow something will transform
and happen because nothing stays the same. So everything is evolving.
But when I started having my first thought about, oh, can I really do this or so?
That's already the first step to the end. So I don't think I have courage.
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I have faith. I have a thought.
I jump on it. and sometimes it
turns into something and a lot of times you know I land on
the ground somewhere but it's the phase
that then you go okay let's wait for the next inspiration so did you write your
book first or did you start the coaching first what what how did that work I
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was teaching for years so I was just teaching workshops for years and one one
of my students actually said that, you know,
you should have a book, not just these handouts. I'd rather have a book to take home.
I'm like, okay, well, and I always write just for myself.
So I said, okay, no problem. I just put one together, just like a handout, you know. And I...
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Didn't do much about it. And then he called a few days later and he said,
I booked you a book signing at this bookstore in three months when you come
teach in my town. And I'm like, you did what?
I don't have a book. And he said, well, you said it was easy, so just do it.
And so that's how it happened. It ended up taking me longer than three months.
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It took me a year to put it together and I've rewritten it and just released the new edition.
But I did sit down and do it, but that's the same as jumping into it.
The thought of, oh, I'm going to write a book that didn't work.
That would have never worked for me.
So it's again, intuition, inspiration.
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Yeah. And then just go for it and don't think. Yeah.
And faith. Gosh, you got, you know, Those three things alone is something for
our listeners to really think about.
And you don't always hear the leap being those kind of three things,
especially the faith part.
Just going forward and having the faith that it's all going to work out.
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And if it doesn't, so what?
You'll learn from it. You'll try something else. Or you go into your next life and do it.
That's really leaving it completely open. What made you name this Women Who Leap?
Because I feel that truly exactly what you kind of said in a way,
leaping out of your comfort zone is where that magic happens,
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where you have really a lot of growth and where your manifestation of your own
abilities and your passions and your purpose come out. Yeah.
I mean, for me, it's just, it's either that or nothing.
Me doing nothing, I'd be a factory worker somewhere in a small town.
And there's nothing wrong with that either, but I would have never done anything
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if I wouldn't have done it without you.
Engaging my mind yeah and the fact that
you've shared you've taught you've written the books
has helped so many other people so thank goodness
that's the direction that you chose because that
has you have actually helped so many other people and you
wouldn't have been able to do that had you not just said okay i've
got the faith and i'm going to take that step yeah i mean i've
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always had the faith i actually had somebody in one of
my classes who grew up in communist china
a young lady and she didn't
understand the word faith and she wanted
me to explain what that is and I
couldn't I was like well I don't even know what that is
because I thought everybody was born with it and then it turned out that there
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were more people in the class that did not have much faith and I they helped
me explain it because to me that was just something everybody had Yeah.
I never questioned that.
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Even faith in themselves. Even if you don't have a faith or believe in a higher
being of some kind, just having the faith in yourself.
And that's just so important.
And that's kind of the beauty about transformation because we're constantly
transforming and changing.
Nothing is the same from one second to the next.
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So at least you can have the faith that everything is changing. So I feel really bad.
I go like, okay, well, well, this is going to change, may get worse,
and it may get better, but it's definitely not going to stay the same.
And I think that alone is worth having faith that things can improve.
Yeah, yeah. And then also, when you make changes, the person you are today is
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not the person that you were yesterday or a week ago or three months ago.
And so you have to have faith that the person and you're becoming is a good
thing and will lead to something better, right?
Yeah, and you can try different things out. I mean, life is pretty long,
and according to the Hindus, I think we get 8 million lifetimes,
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so we have a lot of time to get it right.
So I'd like to end this with asking my guest, what is your favorite quote or
mantra or positive affirmation that you'd like to share?
I think my favorite is, for me, is everything happens for your benefit.
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There is nothing that happens that's not beneficial. Nice. I like that.
It's very positive. I like that.
So would you like to share, and although I will put all this information in
the podcast itself, so you'll be seeing it on the bottom, but where can people get a hold of you?
I have a website, QuantumHeartField.com, which has all the information about
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everything on there and how to reach me.
That's probably the easiest way. Thank you.
Well, thank you, Johanna. It's been absolutely fascinating.
I learned more about your work and you today than even our lunch that we had earlier this month.
So I really appreciate that. And I hope and know that everybody who's listening
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has definitely gotten another nugget of information on how to have faith when
you're leaping into something,
a change or transformation in your life or something new that you want to go
to in order to be able to do it. to follow your passion and your purpose.
So thank you, Johanna, so much. It's been really lovely having you today.
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Well, thank you. It was really wonderful being here and I'm so grateful I met you. Me too, me too.
So now everybody that's listening has met Johanna, so you all can be grateful for that too.
Thank you so much for joining us and thank you everyone for listening.
Really appreciate it. Thank you.
Thanks so much for listening or watching. Please subscribe to the Ladies Who
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