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October 24, 2024 51 mins

In this conversation, Andres and Deven discuss the challenges and complexities of balancing fatherhood, business ownership, and personal fulfillment. They share insights on the pressures of being a husband and father while managing a business, emphasizing the importance of self-care and understanding one's limitations. The discussion also touches on the necessity of navigating work-life balance, the value of suffering in achieving happiness, and the importance of exploring personal interests outside of work. They highlight the importance of hobbies and personal joy, advocating for doing things for the sake of enjoyment rather than profit. The discussion also delves into parenting, sharing life lessons with children, and the continuous journey of personal growth and experimentation in life. They encourage listeners to find time for themselves amidst their responsibilities, suggesting that self-care is essential for better relationships and overall well-being.

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