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Yeah, that was my story about coffee and a cruiser.
Coffee and a cruiser. You could write a book about that, probably.
Probably. This is Low Expectations, episode 15, Gary. Dude, 15, big one five.
Yeah. We haven't recorded for a little bit because our schedules got jacked
up and we actually had to pull something out of the archives from our patrons-only
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archives back in 2023, beginning of 2023.
Okay. And we put that out to the people.
And then we had another patron-only episode that we released a couple weeks
ago. So you and I were behind the mics for that.
But if you're not a patron, you didn't hear that patron-only episode.
And we're probably going to have another one coming out soon.
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Oh, yeah, yeah. We're definitely going to do it.
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Part of the family. part of the support family the community the small
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community the small community yeah hey
but it's a good community yeah so we're
trying we're trying to pump out some more patron only episodes i wish we could
do episodes every week i wish we could do multiple episodes every week i wish
we could do one in the morning and one in the evening wow every day it'd be
like morning and evening with low expectations i don't know we'd have to keep
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them a lot shorter i guess we could be nuts Dude,
there's no way I could, I could keep up with that. That'd be a lot.
I mean, you're a full-time dad.
Right. And husband. Yeah. And we got jobs. Yeah. And we got sports. Hobbies.
Yeah. So basically feel, feel sorry for us. Feel bad for us. Oh.
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I want to be a victim. Did you? Oh, man.
I wanted to pull up this clip of what's the what's the CNN announcer Joy Reid?
OK. She she is. She is crazy. Off her rocker. She's lost. She is nuts. OK.
But she did this whole thing after that Trump attempted Trump assassination,
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which is one of the things where which is probably the only thing we're going
to talk about on this episode.
Right. And then we might we might wait 14 days to talk about this.
Yeah, right. Right. And then we might also dive into the Sonia Massey shooting,
but that's probably going to be patron only. Oh man, that might be the pull.
I think that's going to be a good conversation. That's going to be a good conversation,
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but you're going to miss it if you're not a patron.
$5 a month, that's all it takes. Anyways, back to Joy Reid.
So after the attempted assassination on Trump.
She went on this rant about how, crying about how Trump might use this to portray himself as a victim.
And her whole rant was so perfect.
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I was like, this is exactly what I, she's literally putting to words what I've
been saying for a while, which is victimology, being a victim is like currency in our culture.
And she's crying that a Republican, the Republican nominee, Trump,
Trump is going to use this to portray himself as a victim when he's not really a victim.
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She's a victim and this person's a victim and Biden's a victim, but he's going to use it.
So like she was mad because she felt like Trump might have been edging in the victim category.
Yeah. I'm like, this is literally, you're literally voicing exactly what I've been saying.
She's off her rocker. So he hasn't used it too much. I don't think.
I mean, you're going to use it, dude. I don't care what you think about Trump.
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The guy's a beast. what do you mean you get you you take rounds at a row it
was an ear shot come on no hold on let me finish it i'm just kidding you take
rounds at a rally okay you get you get up you start bossing,
your your secret service agents around but you can't because they're smaller than you.
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And and then you like you that iconic
photo with his fist in the air and him yelling fight fight over his face i mean
listen the guy's a beast and and i don't think people appreciate this either
if if you've been shot at okay yeah and and then days later two days later was the rnc yeah,
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Two days later, he's marching into the RNC.
You could tell he was still affected by this. The guy just keeps going.
Yeah. The guy just keeps going. And he's old. I mean, he's not young. What, he's 78?
Yeah. A lot of people would fold under that. Listen, if, listen.
Lots of people would. Lots of people would fold under that. Listen,
if you're a cop and you get shot at, you're off work for weeks while they investigate it. Weeks.
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Sometimes months, depending on the situation. but but
you're off and let me tell you you you need that time
to regroup like it's pretty like intense intense
yeah and so i don't care what you think of him like the guy's the guy's a beast
man yeah he keeps going he keeps going like to have that reaction and then go
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into the rnc and then did you see what he's doing here coming up i don't know
when he's going back he's going back to Butler.
Maybe by the time this is out, he'll be back in Butler. He's going back to Butler
to do another rally. The same location?
I would. I would go to the exact same spot. I'm guessing he's going to the same
location. I would probably get up on that roof where the shooter was and do
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my speech from there, standing on his like- Dominate the shooter's- Dominate
the shooter's position.
I'd be like, make me a platform right here. Yeah. Yeah.
We got to get into it. I mean, here's the thing. You're right.
We waited what is it, 14 days?
I think 13, 14 days. 13, 14 days. But I think that's part of what you see happening
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in our world is people demand answers immediately.
So when this happened, one of my first thoughts, like I got a text from a friend,
so I didn't see this live.
Then we started watching the news after the kids went to bed and we're watching
like news footage of that and everything. thing, one of my first thoughts was,
oh, Gary and I should be talking about this.
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We need to get this out. And then I'm like, why?
Why do we feel that we have to give our opinion on things?
We have this...
We have this thing going on in our culture where you feel like you have to respond.
You have to say something about it. You have to post something about it.
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You have to let people know your opinion about something.
I don't know what that is. Probably pride. I think it's pride.
Yeah. Like you think people actually care what you think about something. Right.
And we know our people, our listeners love to hear what we say.
Right. But they're just entertained either way. Yeah, but it just struck me.
I was like, why is my, one of my first thoughts that I need to make comments
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about this, that I need to, I need to beat everyone else to the punch to like
draw conclusions and show my outrage about this.
Hey, if you're a listener and you think we should have talked about this earlier,
hit us up on the socials and say, Hey guys, we wanted to hear your voices over
all of the other loudmouths. They don't care.
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Do you realize every time you say something like that?
Hey, listener, hit us up. Do you realize how many times a listener has hit us
up and answered your question? How many times? Zero.
No one has ever responded. So then why do we even do it? Because you're wasting, you're wasting time.
You're wasting seconds here on this podcast. Dude, it's kind of sad that that doesn't happen.
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Like it kind of makes me feel a certain way. Yeah. You're a victim.
You're a victim of. Yeah.
I'm putting out all this good content, making people laugh, but people literally
can't like get on their phone and say, Anthony's an idiot.
You guys should have done this like literally say that anthony's
an idiot we should have you guys should have talked about this
the day of the shooting my sister-in-law did tell
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me that i was on vacation uh with my whole
extended family and my sister-in-law told me to tell you she said hi you don't
even know her see that's awesome man i love she's like i feel i feel like i
know gary i feel hugged okay that's awesome so there you go you know who you
are i can't wait to meet her someday hopefully all right so talk about this
thing or yeah we're We're going to talk about,
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wait, here's the thing. Here's how I want to start this episode, though. Okay.
So this stuff is, this stuff really, like, what's going on in our world,
it, like, really affects me. I know it shouldn't.
You're looking at me like I'm just a terrible human being. No,
I don't think terrible. It's just, it's different for me because I don't feel that way.
It doesn't. So you're like, oh, Trump almost got assassinated.
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Oh, the opening ceremonies at the Olympics was a complete disaster,
fire, satanic, you you know, ritual, you know.
To trans like this stuff i'm just
like i watch this stuff and it's not that i'm surprised by it
yeah i i it's our world it's our culture but it i i don't yeah it it does like
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bother me at times like i i'm just surprised like you do a much better job just
being like whatever or maybe you don't and you just say you do yeah okay so
i'll tell you this i i got hit up by a buddy,
when the Trump assassination, assassination happened.
And like, I started watching it cause I didn't have anything better to do.
So I actually had some feelings there, maybe one or two. I was like, Whoa, like really?
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And then it moved away. Like, but I'm not, I'm a simple guy, dude.
I don't have like, but you don't feel the heaviness of it. You don't feel the
heaviness of this stuff. I do, but it's not my way to bear.
You know what I mean? Like there are lots of things that I bear that i shouldn't
right but like the world
system type things i i literally
can't yeah like i that's uh i know i
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can't bear it right so that's that's uh that's good
i need to i need to i know more about this verse
has been popping up in my head i think it's in first timothy i know
i'm not fearful or whatever because i know
in whom i have believed oh you know
i mean that's a good one i think it's first timothy one that maybe yeah
but anyway so that's one of the things that have been like in
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my head i i know in whom i have
believed i i don't have to fear because in reality it's
probably fear it it might boil down to yeah i think pride fear you don't want
to see it go this way you don't want your kid so there's this unknown right
like if he does get assassinated or if right whatever it's just like it's that
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fear it's of the unknown it's fear of other things and it's probably
exposing an idol in my heart.
Like an idol of like, I think for me, it's like a grief over like.
I guess I never in my, in my wildest dreams thought that we would be at the
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places we're at as a country. Yeah.
Because you long for it to not be like that. Correct.
Which is a great longing and we should all have that longing and you want to
fight against it. Right.
The problem is like, and maybe you can do a great job of fighting against it.
It's just a hard fight and I don't have the shoulders to do that.
Right. And maybe I should, maybe that's a fault of mine, you know? Right.
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And I think it also might be an idol. And, you know, the way of life that,
you know, has historically been my experience in the United States, our way of life.
Yeah. God, family, work. Yeah.
Country, you know, that sort of thing. And so you see that going away and you
feel that, you feel like you're losing, not losing God, but you feel like you're
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losing the country. You feel like you're losing your way of life.
You feel like you're losing a future for your kids.
Like, Like, so, so the, but if, if, so it's an idol, like it can become an idol in your heart.
So that's all I'm saying. Maybe in my own heart, it's exposing an idol.
That doesn't say that we shouldn't push back against that.
We shouldn't, you know, talk truth and everything like that.
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It's what we do here, but yeah. Or we try to do. Yeah.
They were just spitballing, man. I love it. But I would say one thing that over the past months.
Years, one thing that I have been distinctly aware of in my own life is obsession with feelings.
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We are obsessed with our feelings. We are driven by our appetites, driven by our feelings.
And we as Christians get even caught up in that. Like this drive by,
you know, driven by our feelings.
And I don't know. I can't remember. I know I've said it before.
It might have been R.C. Sproul. I can't remember.
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But I heard a pastor once say, or Alistair Begg maybe.
You know, don't base your life on your feelings. Base it on what do you know?
Not how do I feel, but what do I know?
And so I was feeling a certain way with all this stuff going on,
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the assassination attempt, other stuff going on in the world.
And I came across this verse one morning and I was like, wow,
I needed this. It's 1 Chronicles 29 11.
It says, It says, yours, O Lord, is the greatness and the power and the glory
and the victory and the majesty for all that is in the heavens and in the earth
is yours. Yours is the kingdom, O Lord.
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You are exalted at his head above all.
So you brought up your verse. I brought up that verse.
Listen, that's what we know. So it doesn't matter how I feel.
I can feel a certain way and I can ask the Lord to help me with those feelings
and try to push back against those feelings and see maybe if they're exposing idols in my heart.
But what I need to do is ground myself in what I know.
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And what do I know? I know that verse. I know that God is in control. He's sovereign.
People on the God small g of this world will do what he's going to do.
We're fighting against evil. We're in evil days.
They might even get more evil but god's in control yeah
and and god has final say so there are no i i
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always love this there's no rogue molecules not even
one molecule in the in the most minute like system
right molecule wise and in the most like
large scale gigantic systems
like the universe right like the stars like the milky
way like all of those are literally held in
place by the sovereign king the creator of all things right
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so like that is wild to me and just like he can
do what he wants and like who are we to question him yeah
and we can know that like ultimately it's for his
glory and for his people's good yeah so it's wild i'm like and that's a good
rest and you can rest in that right it's not easy and oftentimes because we
are supposed we are people who have feelings right so when something terrible
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happens we ought to feel but we have to go back to what do we know Yeah, absolutely.
We've been given our feelings and our emotions by our creator,
but those cannot drive us.
We can't trust them. Yeah, we don't rest in the feelings.
We can't trust them. We can't trust them. And yeah, a lot of the evil you see
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is driven by feelings. I feel a certain way about who I am.
I feel this, I feel this, I feel that.
And people tend to be driven by that.
And so I think it's just a good, a good reminder. Yeah, but what do I know?
Like, you know, I can read a verse like that and I don't necessarily immediately
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feel a certain way, but I know that to be true.
So concentrate on what you know, and the Lord by the power of the Holy Spirit
will bring those feelings in line with what you know, you know? That's exactly right.
Yeah. So I don't know. I was like, before we start this episode,
I just need to start with that. Because we talk about some heavy stuff, dark stuff.
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And Lauren the other day was like, she's like, I just feel like you get between
your job actually being on the street and then you're doing this podcast.
All you're doing, all you're putting in front of yourself is all this negative stuff.
And I was like, you're right. Maybe we need to start out with a different thing here. I like it.
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And in reality, like we're going to talk about the Trump assassination.
I mean, I can't even say that word. I'm going to have to say it somewhere else.
Assassination? Yeah. It's hard for me to say. I'll help you. What was I saying?
Oh, like this is heavy. Like I don't under, like it's sometimes we just brush by that.
Like literally a person got into a position, like forethought to like get into
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a position to take a shot, multiple shots at a former U.S.
President who, who is a candidate for presidency currently.
That's like, we ought to like pause there and just be like, wow.
Right. It's heavy. Right. And we just like, I mean, the media,
I think, I mean, we just brush right by it. Right.
But that is some evil, wicked stuff just to get to that spot before he pulls the trigger.
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Right. Like that is like for normal people don't do that.
You know what I mean? It's a wicked thing. It's a vile, it's a terrible thing.
No matter if it was president biden or former
president trump like it that doesn't really matter right it's
the the forethought of that but they're they are powerful people right and they
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have held or currently do hold extreme positions of authority right so that's
wild like we can't just rush past the fact that ah this did not happen and blah blah blah like Yeah.
I think one thing I was thinking about yesterday was this idea of evil, good and evil.
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And I was just thinking about when you have evil, it means that there is good.
What is that good?
Everyone thinks that good is something different. We as believers know that
our good, our hope is God and his son, Jesus, that that's our, our hope.
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But even, even the presence of evil, I was like, pushes people to know that
there's something better. There's something good.
So like, I was thinking about this specifically in light of the opening ceremonies
of the, uh, the Olympics.
I didn't know we were talking about this. So I didn't do any show.
I saw Celine Dion singing and I was like, okay, that's great.
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And I walked away and then it was like some fiery thing going up in the air.
And then I go to Jack, I go, man, I hope that thing doesn't burn up,
the fire, the heat's going to rise. Why wouldn't it?
So I didn't even watch the opening Olympics. I was just following it on my X feed.
And there was definitely a huge...
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Drag queen trans push at different
parts in the in the opening ceremonies let's talk about that another time because
i want to i want to like watch this i want to know what i'm talking i don't
even know what i'm talking about i'm just trying to make a point i'm not getting
into it i'm just trying to make a point so so one of the things they did was they had drag queens and,
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lgbtq people and they had a kid in there people in various forms of undress and they staged
you know the famous painting of the lord's supper
yeah they they staged that with all
kinds of ridiculousness so it
was you know drag queens and there was there was a kid in this
picture and they all tried to pose what's funny
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to me is people why right there's a there's a reason why
but like literally why you you have your own thing
why like you're it's almost like you're trying
to just erase the fact that like this is
there are some people who have different view you mean
like it is it's wild right like why did
you pick that to recreate right with
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your depravity with your sin like why did you why did you recreate that deception
right so as as i'm seeing this now that would make me mad i'm getting a feeling
right now that yeah it really upset me But at the same time,
I was like, this is proof,
you know, my...
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You know, I believe by grace through faith, okay?
But when I see things like that, it actually bolsters my faith because I'm like,
these people are literally, and when I say people, you know,
the evil that they're promoting,
this evil is actually proving that my God is the way, the truth, and the life.
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Right. Like, why would they pick on this God? They're not picking on- I pick
on him. They're not picking on any other religion.
And when we say pick on, it's like a gnat beating against a thousand mile and
thousand mile high granite wall.
It means nothing. He, he sits on his, on his throne and laughs at the nations.
You know, he scoffs at them.
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But this evil is, this, this bolsters my faith because evil pushes it back against truth.
Yeah. And so when you see this level of just abhorrent, terrible sin,
wickedness on full display, you know that what you're following is true.
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It's not going to push it back against something that isn't true.
It's the same thing like a conversation
I had with a buddy of mine who was using the Lord's name in vain.
I'm like, the fact that you use the Lord's name in vain bolsters my faith,
helps me know that I serve the one true God.
Because we don't use any other religion, any other God of any other religion in vain. We don't do it.
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So, I don't know. I was encouraged by that.
So as I saw these people, you know, laid out and all their wickedness and recreating
the Lord's supper and basically spitting on that painting, that,
that picture, that, you know, that belief system.
Spitting on christianity right i was like oh
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okay all right i like it it bolsters my faith
yeah give me more right yeah yeah yep so anyways man
we went we went off but yeah the main thing we want to talk about
we're 25 minutes into this
thing we haven't talked about the attempted assassination but
but yeah so you know our drive
was i we got to talk about this right away and then you know
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i think i even talked to you and i was like no we don't yeah just let it
let it let it rest let the investigation go
we'll have more information we'll we'll hit it you know in
our next episode and that's that's what we're doing i mean we thought we'd
have more information right well that's true i don't know that we've actually
learned a whole lot more i thought did you watch any of director cheetles like
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highlights yeah amazing unreal just just a A complete refusal to provide any information.
It's incompetency. Right. And she did resign. Yeah.
She finally resigned after a bunch of Congress men and women basically told
her to her face that she's a terrible person.
She needs to resign. They did crush her. They ripped her. But here's the thing. Both sides.
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Yeah, both sides. Both sides of the aisle, Republican and Democrats.
But here's the thing. If you are in that position and you claim that the buck
stops with you, then act like the buck stops with you. I got a sneeze.
I think I hurt my back on that one. Why did it? Why did the word that come from?
I don't know. You got pollen in your studio. What's happening?
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So July 13th, if you live under a rock, obviously this attempted assassination
on Trump happened July 13th, 6, 11 PM in Butler, PA, 6, 11, 6, 11. Wow.
That's the other thing I love. Oh, I can't wait to talk about this.
So 611, which, which if you go to, let's just do it.
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If you go to, if you go to Ephesians 611, that's, so.
So this is another frustrating thing. Is that like Christians. As a Christian.
Like just, they do, sometimes Christians do really weird things.
And like, it's just like, why, why are we doing this?
So someone, I don't even know who did this, but a pastor at the RNC brought
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this up, but it was out there on the interweb before that.
But someone was like, oh, Trump was shot at 6-11.
Let's look at Bible verses. Oh, Ephesians 6-11,
put on the whole armor of God that you may be able to stand against the schemes
of the devil, then starts plastering that on pictures of Trump and basically
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promoting Trump to the savior mentality that.
Listen, God spared his life.
Yeah, no doubt. God spared his life. But that's not how you use scripture.
You don't be like, oh, 611? So they literally picked, because there's lots of
chapters and verses in each book, right?
So they picked 611 of Ephesians, like chapter 6, verse 11 of Ephesians.
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Because Trump was shot at 611. Right.
But if you look at other verses, what's the other one you found?
Oh, I wanted to know why they didn't pick Genesis 611.
It's weird that this verse wasn't picked. Now the earth was corrupt in God's
sight and the earth was filled with violence.
Why not use that verse? Oh, why
not? Because they picked whatever one they wanted. It's just silly, man.
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That stuff frustrates me too. I actually get more feelings, more of a feeling
for that type of thing sometimes. Yeah, yeah, for sure.
It just bothers me. It's just silliness and it makes Christianity look silly and I don't like it.
It's not a proper use of the word. It's not at all.
And that verse out of Genesis 6.11 was right before God wiped out the entire.
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Earth. Right. With the flood. Right. Yeah.
So anyways, so 6-11, July 13th, and we're talking about it now.
So the FBI is conducting this investigation.
I thought what's interesting and one thing that was interesting to me is the
silence from them has been deafening. Now, FBI Director Wray was in front of
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the committee that's investigating this the other day.
Again, he didn't really give much information.
Claimed trump wasn't even shot that it might have been shrapnel how
do we know it was a bullet right and then fbi came
out after he said that and said officially
no it was it was a bullet he wasn't hit by shrapnel right so that i'm just like
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i don't understand who are these people that they're put in charge of these
giant agencies they're bureaucrats which is the problem like if they would have
got their whoever the primary investigator is to go on camera you probably probably
get some actual good information.
Right. And I get it too. It's an act of investigation.
So you can't share everything. You can't. But some of the stuff that they were
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asking them to be open and honest about, they can share.
And in that vacuum, you have what's happening now, which is these people just
spewing these crazy conspiracy theories.
And people are like, well, maybe that is true. Maybe that did happen.
Maybe there was multiple shooters. Maybe the FBI told everyone to stand down.
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And maybe the Secret Service has embedded terrorists in it.
All these crazy conspiracies that are being thrown out there,
that happens because of the deafening silence of these people leading these investigations.
You have to give statements. So the FBI released a press release the day after on the 14th.
But then as of a couple days ago, There was no press release from the FBI.
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They haven't released any information.
Ray went in front of Congress and talked about it, but didn't give any information.
Cheadle went in front of Congress, didn't give him any information, then resigned.
And the stuff they're saying like, oh, the roof wasn't secure because it was sloped. Right.
I mean, like, Sarah, do you hear yourself talk? Yeah.
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And to think that like, no one's going to check. Right. That's what's silly
to me. Right. And that, that, that you're a terrible leader.
Right. If you say something like that, you're a terrible leader because you,
you, you're, you're just an idiot.
Like somebody is going to check what you say. Right. Especially in an incident like this.
Right. And what does that say about your people? If you say,
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oh, we weren't on the roof, we didn't have the roof secured because it was sloped and it was a day.
I mean, what, like, what does that even say about the FBI has,
or the secret service has unlimited funds right if
they need something they can get it you can literally rent one
of those like skiffs that like lift you up in the air you could do that right
so like you could build your own tower and it's just it's it's common sense
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like you and i were like simple cops yeah we're you know find bad guy arrest
bad guy like we understand the importance of.
Getting and keeping and securing high ground that
is a a rudimentary basic understanding
of protecting high value assets and people that and distances get the high ground
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and distances like figure out what's what's what looks scary you know what i
mean what's a scary thing if someone wants to hurt someone what's scary around
here it's not hard yeah like and and why won't you
have a drone up why won't you it's nowadays man it's wild to me the lack of
of just security at this place now what i one of the latest reports and this
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i actually believe because it was extremely hot on july 13th i think it was
in the mid 90s okay here in pa.
And supposedly an officer was supposed to be on that roof, supposed to be covering
that roof, a local officer.
Okay. Maybe I shouldn't say a local officer. There's a report that someone doing
security at the event, whether it was municipal police, state police,
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secret service, federal agents, whatever, was supposed to be on that roof.
And they abandoned the post because it was too hot.
Okay. I believe I could believe that. Sure. Because cops are wimps.
Like not even that. Be like, I'm not standing up here. Yeah.
Yeah. I mean, you and I have both done security for a presidential.
Dude, I see. I heard one of the somebody that came in on a train.
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I think it was President Obama.
He came off the train. No, it was President Trump. He came off the train and
Secret Service was on the complete other end of they didn't know what car he was in or whatever.
So like they were like running toward him because there was just like cops standing
there while he got off the train. And he's like he's shaking people's hands.
So like they had zero clue where he was. It was just a train wreck.
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But see, and that hasn't been my experience working with the Secret Service.
That was one time, a story I heard. I mean, I wasn't there. Yeah.
I've done two presidential- We've got a picture of us in front of what?
Marine One. Marine One, yeah. Yeah.
And we got to shake George W.'s hand. That's right. President George W.,
he shook our hands and stuff. I had hair back then. Yeah.
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But we do. We have you and I and the rest of our unit in front of Marine One.
But yeah, that time. And then there was a time I can't remember.
It might've been George W flew into Lancaster County airport and I was helping there as well.
And I was, they put me out on the tarmac and they said, listen,
if you see people walking around out in the, on, on the field,
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just stop them, make sure that they're us, their secret service,
like this was at the briefing and everything.
Thing and i actually so i i'm they're on the tarmac
and i see two guys walking up a runway they're in
suits and stuff i'm like oh these guys are secret service and i'm like but what
if they aren't you know am i gonna be that guy so i actually stopped them and
they were like super cool they did like the working with secret service i would
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say they're they're in my opinion some of the the most laid back and and humble
federal agents like i've worked with a lot of like federal you know,
agents from other federal agencies.
And some of them have a chip on their shoulder. I get it. Like we all have chips
on our shoulder, but those, like I stopped those guys and it was like, Hey guys.
You know, and they showed me credentials and then they were like,
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thanks, man. Really appreciate you, you know, stopping us and doing your job.
Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. So, so, but just, just that level of security.
So like my experience has been that there's just a high level of security and I get it.
President Trump's not a sitting president, but he still has a,
a detail with a detail with him.
And I, you know, how do you, how do you, I think the biggest question for me
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is, okay, I'm sure that every time they do an event, there's suspicious people
around that they're keeping an eye on.
And I get it. You're not going to clear them off stage every time you just have a suspicious person.
But there are reports that this was more than suspicious.
You had a guy with a range finder on the grounds.
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Why would you have a range finder? There's no valid reason to have a range finder.
Then you're following the guy. Then you lose the guy.
Then you have reports that someone's getting on a roof. Like, I don't understand.
As soon as you get a report that someone is getting on a roof.
Like pull Trump off the stage.
Or just delay it, right? Because he wasn't on long, right?
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Or yeah, maybe just delay him getting onto you. Let's secure this area here real quick.
Yeah, that's the wild thing to me. Like why weren't certain steps taken to protect him?
Like why won't you delay or pull him off the stage?
Right. I don't understand that well and
he would fight back against that for sure so like if you're
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going to make that decision as a secret service person he knowing
who he is he's not going to count he's going to
be like no no you know he's going to yell at him
right because he's a big he's a big guy too right yeah and
he's going to push back so like to make that decision is like once
you pull that once you pull the trigger what I
mean by that is like once you make that decision you're going to do it like that's
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not going to be easy because he's you're going to get you're going to get in trouble if
it if there wasn't a threat you know yeah so i could see
that but based on what we know right now that was
the right decision no one even no one even did that no
one even had that conversation no one pulled him
off like you know supposedly there were messages being shared like hey we we've
got a report of a guy on the roof and you know allegedly a local officer climbed
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on top of another local officer to peek up over on the roof bad guy swung his
rifle on him, he ducked and fell,
and then soon after that is when the shots were fired. Right away.
Again, and people are like blasting this municipal cop.
I'm like, have you ever had a gun point at you? And he fell off the roof.
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It's a visceral reaction.
You're just, you're going to duck. And if you're standing on top of another
officer to try to access their roof and you quick duck and you fall,
like, I'm not going to fault a guy for ducking when a rifle's pointed at him.
Like, that's a bad position. You're trying to get up onto a roof.
Again, the guy has high ground. The guy, you know, you need to.
Which is why it should have been secured before. You need to secure that position.
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But yeah. So who knows why all this happened?
They're still doing the investigation and trying to figure it out and everything.
But one thing that really came out during this was all this DEI stuff,
diversity, equity, inclusion.
Has that affected the ability of the Secret Service to do their job correctly?
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There was a lot of memes out about some of the women on this detail who were
assuming our Secret Service.
I know not all the agents there were Secret Service, but I assume the ones that
are actually like tasked with doing the guarding and covering him in a situation
like this are Secret Service.
So there were all kinds of memes out. There was that one lady.
And this is so ridiculous.
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You have video and then someone takes like this one shot of the one Secret Service female ducking.
And they made a meme that she was like washing dishes and stuff.
Oh, that's so bad. Dude, I was dying. I mean, you got to have to,
you have to have a sense of humor with this stuff, but, but yeah,
so that one lady was getting blasted.
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She couldn't put her gun in the holster. She couldn't get her gun in the holster.
She was out of shape. She was stressed.
She had no idea what she was doing. It just looked like she was maxed.
So I thought it was interesting when, when you're talking about that,
if you're trying to do personal personnel security, and I'm not an expert at
any of this stuff, I just, it's just common sense, right?
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Like the people who came up on stage after he took the round of the ear and
he falls, they, they could not have carried him.
They didn't have enough strength. And then when he stood up,
he's wide open again, because you have small people assigned to him,
which is, that's not a fault.
On them they can't help how tall they are get a different
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person right right change the detail right obviously i
think president trump needs larger men on his detail
right or larger woman find a large woman and that's
six two six three you're not you're probably not going
to find that but there's lots of six two six three six
four men that you can assign to this detail right
so i that was like i was just like what are
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we doing here and they they couldn't have carried him if they if they had
to right because they didn't have the strength i mean
that some of the women on his on his detail were
like a foot shorter than him so when
they when they stood him up they're not covering him at all not at all
yeah that one guy's like put his arm up which is what they're trained to do right
like trump trump's a big guy right like he'd be hard to it just if you watch
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the the attempted assassination of reagan if you watch that video and you watch
the attempted assassination on trump you see two different responses like when
reagan happened you literally there. It's amazing.
You couldn't even see him. Like he vanishes. He vanishes. And there's actually
a, a, a agent, a secret service agent.
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I'm assuming it's agent who turns and faces the gunfire and gets himself big
and puts his arms up to like catch bullets. Right.
Like, I'm like the amount of, of mental, like, cause that is not a normal,
the normal response is to duck, to get low. Yeah, exactly.
But to train yourself to literally get big and expose like all your front and
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your, like that takes a lot of training.
It takes a lot of mental acuity to operate under stress.
And it looked different than with Trump. With Trump, it looked like mass confusion,
people who weren't big enough to cover him, people who weren't like working
hard to To protect him, like, I shouldn't say that.
I shouldn't say they weren't working hard to protect him. It just looked different.
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Chaotic. It looked chaotic. Which is, I mean, that's normal,
man. That's what happens.
Yeah. And I don't want to be super critical of the people that were there because-
Listen, that, that's tough. You, you do not know how you're going to react in a situation like that.
You hope that your training kicks in. You hope that you've mentally thought
about it and you can work through it under stress, you know, but that's tough.
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And it's real hard when like, there hasn't been something like this since 1981.
So you're talking, so you're talking what, 20, 40, 45 years?
Complacency. Yeah. 45 years, nothing's going to happen, you know,
like it's not going to be, and that, that's That's true of all police encounters. Yeah.
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Yeah, for sure. For sure. That complacency is crazy.
But a lot of this DEI stuff came out because a lot of the women on this detail were getting ripped.
And in some senses, rightfully so. I think that definitely needs to be questions asked.
And is these DEI policies, this 30 by 30, all this stuff, is that affecting
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the mission of the Secret Service?
Are they able to perform and do what they're supposed to be doing?
Or are they too caught up in trying to, you know, have enough diversity,
equity, inclusion, like everyone's caught up in this DEI stuff.
And so it's really interesting. There was a interview. So I guess the Secret
Service has a podcast called Standing Post Podcast, and they had Lucius Hires on it.
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And so who's Lucius? He is the equity director.
He's the director of equity of the Secret Service. His name is Lucius Hires.
And so I saw an article in Fox News, and then I watched this interview that he did on this podcast.
Dude, it's wild. Some of the stuff he says, like from the article,
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the director of equity at the Secret Service, Lucius Hires III,
calls it mission imperative and the ultimate goal to spread DI within the agency.
With the agency hosting seminars on respectful use of pronouns. nouns.
And I watch the podcast and he does say things like this.
In fact, his quote at the end of the podcast, he says, part of the things that
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we need to continue to do more of is be open and speak openly about diversity,
equity, and inclusion and accessibility.
When every one of us within the agency can say this is mission imperative,
then we have achieved our ultimate goal.
Think about that. Yeah. Like the goal of the agency is that.
Yeah. Mission imperative, ultimate goal is diversity, equity, and inclusion.
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That doesn't seem like that should be a top goal.
That's like safety is our top priority.
We were talking about that. Like
these companies who say safety is our top priority. No, it's not. Right.
Like that's not your mission. Right. And that's what this guy is saying.
I mean, if you think about that, you know, he also says like it's every action
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all the time or he wants every agent to make this mission imperative in all
the decisions they make.
So literally, you want your agents, every decision they make,
whether they are doing investigations, whether they're part of your uniformed
unit, whether they're protecting people,
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you want them to constantly be weighing all their decisions on diversity, equity, and inclusion.
That's wild. That's really wild. That's not going to help you do your job. Yeah.
And I don't really, like, I know a little bit about DEIA apparently now.
DEIA for- I guess. Yeah. What was that? Acceptance? Is that what- Yeah.
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Yeah. So we've added a letter to it. That's- No, accessibility.
I'm sorry. Accessibility. Okay. Yeah. Yeah. Thanks. Everything needs to be accessible.
Yeah. It's just wild. Like, I guess, I mean, they would never say,
we're not trying to not hire the best person for the job.
Right. But, and it's going to be a quiet but. Yeah. You know what I mean?
Because they would never say that.
It's just giving opportunity for others who are less fortunate or outcasts or
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different to have the opportunity to have the same type of job or life or experience as someone else.
If you're going out and you're you're going to recruit, you're going to open
up your recruitment field and try to recruit more people that,
you know, whatever you decide,
we don't have enough, you know, Asian people on our on our in our agency.
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So we're going to go out and try to go to places where there's a lot of Asian
people and like recruit them.
That's fine. But you still you can't.
You're recruiting for a certain skill set.
You're not recruiting for skin color, for your sexual identity status, your whatever.
You're not picking something to get.
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Go recruit, but make sure you're recruiting for and getting people that can
do the job, not just getting the job because they look a certain way or believe
a certain thing. They check a box or whatever.
Right. And that's what it reeks of.
From the article, it said, during the podcast, the equity director outlined
how every action at the Secret Service should be informed by DEI and claim the
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ideology makes the organization stronger.
Every employee should consider how every action is reflective of equity,
according to the director.
Like, every action. That's wild. Like, you have to listen to these people.
I don't even know how that, how does that actually help?
It doesn't. Yeah. Well, I guess it doesn't. Yeah. Like if you're so focused
on diversity and equity and inclusion and accessibility,
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and you want that to determine every action you do, then you're not doing your
job. You're not doing your job. It's wild.
DEI is every action every day, he said during the podcast.
So the opportunity for improvement for every employee within the Secret Service
is to ask themselves, what action are you doing every day? Every day.
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That's awesome. That's so wild, man.
But listen, are you going to keep going? No, go ahead.
Because ultimately, we're poking fun at it. Not poking fun, but we're bringing
to light some of the same stuff everybody else knows and everybody else has been talking about.
But ultimately, it's that shooter's fault.
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He drove the actions. So there might be mistakes and things that the Secret
Service can learn, and we can learn to actually secure a roof that's 120 meters away.
We should probably secure that roof. Right. That's an easy after action thing
that you can do from now on out.
But ultimately it's the shooter's fault. Right. He chose to do these,
to do these wicked things.
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Right. So like, I'm not mad at the secret service for their job or like who,
who did what, or the sniper that didn't do this or the cop that like,
okay, you tried to do something. Right.
But you're probably next time they're going to do it better.
Well, I would sure hope so.
Or do it a little differently. Yeah. And maybe they won't think about DEI-A
the next time in every decision they make and they'll just, let's just secure the area. Right.
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Let's just do that. I mean, I don't know. I just think, you know,
yeah, I totally agree with you.
But if your mission, your primary goal, your primary driving force in how you're
hiring is DEI, then you don't have your eye on the prize.
That's what I'm saying. Like your goal should not be diversity, equity, inclusion.
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Your goal should be getting the best people for the job. And if that's a woman, so be it.
But ultimately it's a, again, by and large, law enforcement is a, a masculine job.
Okay. So there's not many women that are cut out for that type of work.
And I would even say like the C like personal protection is, is a masculine job.
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You need big guys. Like you should be able to carry the person that you're right.
And that like with president Trump, that's not easy. Like, that's hard to find.
Like, I will, I don't think I'm qualified for that. Right. It's going to be
someone younger, someone with big, giant arms, big, huge backs.
You know what I mean? It's those guys. Those guys that are lifting weights.
Probably a CrossFit guy.
You know what I mean? That's probably who they're looking for.
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Not someone like me. I'm not qualified for that job, but DEI might get me that
job. You can carry Trump.
Not by myself. Not by yourself.
But yeah, I mean, that's the... And if you looked at Trump coming into the RNC,
and did you see him walking into the the Republican national convention,
his, his security detail looked a lot different.
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It was all dudes and they were all huge.
Okay. Big enough to cover him. So hopefully they learned from their mistake,
which is huge, but like you probably shouldn't make that mistake at the beginning.
And that's the problem with DEI or any other like agenda that you're pushing on agencies. Right.
That's where mistakes happen. Let's do the right thing the right way.
Right. And that's, that's why I have such a huge problem with like the 30 by 30 initiative. Yeah.
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And listen, I did a whole thing on the 30 by 30 initiative on the Diagnostic Cops Calling podcast.
If you go to season two, episode 15, the two hour, 11 minute mark,
you can listen to me talk about the 30 by 30 initiative because that is a Trojan horse.
It's 30% women. These agencies are adopting 30 by 30. Secret Service has adopted
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this 30 by 30 initiative.
Basically, it's the idea that 30% of our agency personnel will be women by 2030.
Okay. That's the goal. That's the mission.
Not that we get the best people, but that we have 30% of our agency women by 2030.
Okay. So you have these agencies adopting this initiative.
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Not just Secret Service. We're talking police agencies all around the country.
My old agency, the Lancaster City Bureau of Police, they have adopted this initiative.
Which they're not even close. I could tell you that. And the reason they're
not. And they're not going to be close.
No. The reason they're not close is because generally speaking,
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law enforcement, military, you know, those types of jobs, generally speaking, are masculine jobs.
And you're going to have some women who can do them. Yeah. Who can who can do
it. And do it well. Yeah. And better than some guys.
Better than some guys. But by and large, a lot of women can't do the job or
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aren't cut out for the job.
But now what you're doing is you're making it mission number one,
priority number one, to get people into a profession that they should not be doing.
Because that's the push. And the 30 by 30 initiative is a Trojan horse for all
kinds of craziness. Again, if you go, you go and listen to, to my,
because I, well, no, it wasn't a rant.
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I dug into, I dug into their, their stuff, their, their literature,
their, you know, what they're preaching and what they're saying. And it's, it's wild.
It's a Trojan horse to invite all this other stuff in. And the secret service
is making no bones about it. They're going to pride events.
They're trying to hire trans people. And, and like, what's crazy to me is only
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a couple years ago, if you, if you were trans, it was generally recognized that
you probably had some mental health issues going on.
If you, if you believe you are something that you are not, it was common belief
that you were struggling with mental health issues.
And now it's accepted, celebrated, we want you on our agency.
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So you're actually asking people who are confused about who they are,
even though they have sexual organs that tell them who they are,
you're inviting them into, like, how is that going to work?
Like, it's bizarre to me. It's bizarre that you would invite people that are
struggling with mental health issues. And I know I get crucified for saying that.
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But if you are dealing with someone and they're like, I love how people think
this is where it's going to stop. It's not going to stop here.
We're already dealing with people who think that they're animals.
They're acting like they're animals. They're dressing up like they're animals.
Something is wrong there. Something is happening mentally with that person.
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That's not normal behavior. Yeah, deception, being deceived.
Right. And now to say, well, we want to bring people like that who are struggling
in that way into our agency, that's priority number one, to get more diversity,
equity, inclusion, accessibility.
I mean, it sounds great, but it can't be your mission.
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Music.